it just feels redundant
#rw ttrpg thread
regal mulch
fair enough
hushed bane
it's a TTRPG, homebrew's a whole thing
regal mulch
actually idea about neurons and nightcats light
hushed bane
but yeah i see what you're getting at
hushed bane
actually idea about neurons and nightcats light
oo
regal mulch
you should be able to toggle both
even if its not accurate to gamea
and you have a penalty while theyre on maybe because its light
like
darkness gives +1 stealth
bright light gives -1 stealth
or should that not be a thing
hushed bane
i think we should stick with what we have now
is more simple
maybe have that be one of the adaptations
where in the dark you just constantly glow
hushed bane
although you can turn it off if you want
regal mulch
toggling light on off
hushed bane
true
hushed bane
ah
regal mulch
nightcats light is +2 light source, neuron glow is +1
so in darkness (-1 light), neuron glow brings you to neutral
but nightcats brings you to bright (+1 light)
should we represent that with a value
or just say "its a bright light"
oh btw @hushed bane not sure if you saw but hows this
hushed bane
nightcats light is +2 light source, neuron glow is +1
i feel like this is pretty niche as is
regal mulch
how so is it niche
or just in general say
"nightcat gives you a strong light, neurons give you a medium light, the darkness is a low light"
regal mulch
what do we call the light levels
bright, ???, and dim
bright would be certain glows and flashbangs
??? would be just normal light level
dim is the darkness
hushed bane
bright, average and dim
regal mulch
oh btw <@447340800322306049> not sure if you saw but hows this
this is for flashbangs and this
hushed bane
yee
regal mulch
blinding light would force a creature to make a save or get disadvantage next attack
hushed bane
wait isn't bright just flashbang
hushed bane
because anything over average is gonna be a Lot of light right
regal mulch
that also works but you run into the problem of wouldnt nightcats glow instantly kill all spiders and stun stuff if its the same level as a flashbang
and yeah
actually we dont need a light level for a flashbang
just give it special stats
anyways nightcat negative what should it be
hushed bane
that also works but you run into the problem of wouldnt nightcats glow instantly...
okay good point
but yeah i think a flashbang should just have special stats
especially since it's shown to affect the whole screen ingame
nightcat's strobe effect would probably be shorter range
regal mulch
it would
hushed bane
anyways nightcat negative what should it be
hmmmmm
regal mulch
should it be something to do with light again?
or that if an enemy attacks you with you knowing theyre there you take double damage?
but that is super niche and not fun for the player
also you still need to finish this sentence
regal mulch
fighting google docs rn how do i seperate the title and the overview title
wait the header probably works
wait pageless format it dosent work
hushed bane
yeah it isn't lmao
im still figuring out how to word it
basically trying to repeat what you said here
regal mulch
now that i think about it
throwing is for conventional weaponry and explosives, muscle is for unarmed, will is for spells
finesse is for dodging explosives, conventional weaponry, and unarmed, tolerance is for resisting spells
hushed bane
i mean agility is more for dodging explosives
finesse i see more as a sleight of hand type thing
little quick movements
and is used moreso in crafting
regal mulch
i thought finesse was for dodging
hushed bane
nah that's just agility
regal mulch
ah ok
finesse would also be better for explosive combat then
right
also whos the other person on the doc
@hushed bane maybe make nightcat also affected by flashbangs and bright lights like that?
hushed bane
also whos the other person on the doc
friend who's part of the group im gonna test it on
hushed bane
<@447340800322306049> maybe make nightcat also affected by flashbangs and bright...
maybe?
regal mulch
how big is the group youre gonna test it on
hushed bane
3
regal mulch
also is it fine if i get rid of iterator and scag for now
hushed bane
ye sure
regal mulch
tell me when you do it and ill watch
regal mulch
would also like to have a lot of people make characters to see if anything seems too strong
hushed bane
since i dont have that much friends that know rain world
and scheduling and stuff means that it might be down to 2 or even 1 which is
Not ideal
hushed bane
oh hell yeah
i could make a campaign and balance it on the fly as a form of testing
i've got 2 months of just free time so im basically up to do it whenever too
regal mulch
well we need to finish the essentials first
hushed bane
ye ofc
regal mulch
i say get all the slugcats, basic rules, and a good bit of items and creatures done first
hushed bane
^^^
when we do though i think im gonna have a change of plans and test it here first
regal mulch
test that to see if theres any problems with the system itself
then go onto testing the slugcats
then adaptations then items then creatures etc etc
regal mulch
huh
@hushed bane maybe if nightcat dosent have their first attack against a creature during a battle occur while theyre in camoflauge it has a penalty?
as their negative trait
hushed bane
<@447340800322306049> maybe if nightcat dosent have their first attack against a...
OHHH
YESS
because it incentivises you to use up food
love it
regal mulch
also i have their second adaptation
for 2 actions/agility uses after leaving camo, it gains a +2 agility buff
i say next 2 agility uses
hushed bane
i say next 2 agility uses
yeah that way it doesn't force you into using actions
regal mulch
btw all the class specific abilites will be in the uh
like
abilities section right
as i have them all worded so its like
"you gain the ability to use Survival Instincts/Bait Appiration/Karmic Spear"
hushed bane
mhm
regal mulch
hows this
regal mulch
<@447340800322306049> maybe if nightcat dosent have their first attack against a...
how much less damage
i say -4 to -6
somewhere in that range
hushed bane
BACK SORRY
hushed bane
somewhere in that range
-5?
regal mulch
thats what i was thinking
regal mulch
well i think nightcat is done, seems pretty fun to play and has some niche but still useful skills
hushed bane
i'd probably choose nightcat honestly
the gameplay seems solid
always balancing your food and camouflage
regal mulch
so far my favorite has been survivor counterfeit archivist
hushed bane
oh that one's great
regal mulch
now its arti
we dont know exactly how arti works so this might be a bit hard
id say they should have 2 options
focus on making explosives and focus on self explosions
hushed bane
that works
their default ability should be the small explosion + advantage when crafting explosives
regal mulch
yeah
hushed bane
then their 2 adaptations should be
- bigger self explosions but with less self damage
- able to carry more explosives? or just more damage?
regal mulch
then the subclass improves the small explosion and the other one affects explosive crafting and how good they are
maybe like
improved explosive
like an explosion with more damage and an explosive spear with the same
how much damage should artis self exploson do
hushed bane
has to be minor
1d4+1?
i mean that's still a lot but
maybe counteract it by giving them an extra recovery dice?
regal mulch
i meant how much damage not self damage
im thinking 1d4 - 2
50% chance for no damage, 25% for 1 damage, 25% for 2
or 1d4 - 1
or just 1d4
hushed bane
1d4 is better i'd say
regal mulch
1d4 it is
hushed bane
since the real strength of self explosion is propelling yourself
regal mulch
and it can be reduced to 1d4-(1 or 2) by the adaptation
regal mulch
oh wait i was talking about self damage there
ill make one
self damage should be 1d4 by default, and reduced to 1d4-2 by an adaptation
damage wise id go with uh
1d6
did the agility example
hushed bane
nice!!
hushed bane
ooo yeah
regal mulch
@hushed bane how is modifying stats outside of race gonna work
hushed bane
you get to pick 2 stats to add +2 to and one to add -2 to
regal mulch
neat
i feel like a better idea would be uh
you have 3 points to spend along with with 1 negative point
hushed bane
that could work
regal mulch
so its a point buy system not a "roll and hope you get good rolls" system
because i dislike the second one
@hushed bane are we going to work on the rules or arti rn
hushed bane
BACK SORRY
what's more high priority
in fact maybe we do the slugcats first before i move on to doing the combat and character creation rules
then we can do plants, food, items, etc
regal mulch
i say
hushed bane
which will probably be much quicker
regal mulch
slugcats -> combat/character rules -> items, fauna, flora
hushed bane
yeah that works!
we need a nightcat image
i've been looking all over the place for an official one
regal mulch
theres only the arena one is there not
hushed bane
oh damn
regal mulch
wait i got an idea
hushed bane
?
hushed bane
perhaps we could look through the art in here and ask to use a nightcat from there (and give credit to the artist underneath)
regal mulch
sounds good
regal mulch
i feel like we would want them all in the same artstyle
hushed bane
id say this one's pretty close
hushed bane
yeah true
hushed bane
i feel like we would want them all in the same artstyle
but yeah it's why i wouldn't wanna draw the nightcat myself since
im only a lowly pixel artist
regal mulch
if we want them all in the same artstyle we would need to do it ourselves
or get an artist who has already drawn all 9 + comission for host
hushed bane
nah, host works better
since all the other slugcats aren't named something-cat
except nightcat but
that's an exception
also fuck it i might just make art of nightcat myself
sure it'll be inconsistent but it's easier than any alternatives
regal mulch
lets wait to do the art
hushed bane
ah ok
regal mulch
and if we come to a better conclusion we dont want to have to redo it
hushed bane
mhm
regal mulch
wait
hushed bane
managed to get an official artificer image
regal mulch
what if we use the arena icons
hushed bane
maybeee
regal mulch
i know the icons are mostly done already
hushed bane
i just think a full body type thing would be cooler
i have found every msc scug art
except rivulet
AIT
AIT
WAIT
also i think my W key is broken
BUT UNRELATED KEYBOARD STUFF ASIDE
IN THE SLUGCAT SHOWCASE VIDEO THERE'S A BIT WITH A SLEEPING RIVULET ART
I CAN JUST SCREENSHOT
all i need to do is survive through buddy saying artificer again and ill have that sweet sweet sleepy rivulet art
regal mulch
arena icons would be easier
hushed bane
easier yes
but full body icons just seem cooler
what should artificer's negative feature be?
i dont think it should be low reputation
as that's sort of hard to implement and is already a thing with the -2 allure
lofty venture
It attracts predators, maybe vultures, with noises sometimes.
hushed bane
ooo maybe?
feel like that would be situational though
in fact i think low reputation could maybe work
regal mulch
nah some dms might not like that
as some players might want to be friends with scavs but then theres an arti on the team
hushed bane
especially since that's also situational too
scavs might not even be planned for a session
regal mulch
yeah
every downside should show up in 90% of sessions
well
except survivors
but theirs is fine because it affects a large majority of a session
also question what time is it for you
hushed bane
and plus, survivor's special trait only activates a few times
hushed bane
also question what time is it for you
now before you question my insane sleeping schedule
i work better when it's late
but yeah here in britain it's 12:30 am
regal mulch
its 4:30pm for me rn
hushed bane
ah
i should be free anyway since ive got most days free for the next couple months
Time is an illusion and i will have breakfast at 1pm and nobody can stop me
regal mulch
so true
molten birch
hi i just noticed this thread existed! i wanted to know if this was like an ask to join thing because im super interested lol
it seems like yall are still in a bit of a planning phase tho right?
molten birch
oh alright! i'd be glad to help out :D
hushed bane
but i do plan to start a campaign once things are tested and timezones are all figured out
regal mulch
spearmaster we should probably wait for a time where minki is active becauese yknow
theyre the spearmaster dev
hushed bane
ooo true!
molten birch
yep yep
hushed bane
wait so there's separate devs for each scug
regal mulch
yes
molten birch
i think so yeah
hushed bane
that's rad
regal mulch
atleast for some of them
hushed bane
yeah so we're including all the default slugcats, MSC slugcats and nightcat as playable races
as well as my little gremlin slug OC the host
molten birch
oooh cool
regal mulch
yeah
hushed bane
so far we've done the base slugcats and nightcat
and are about to work on the artificer
regal mulch
we needed a 10th to take the extra stats
molten birch
ooh nice
well im here to help and give some opinions if you need any !
hushed bane
oh sure!! (we need them please help)
molten birch
ooh this is a cool layout
hushed bane
if you're familiar with any TTRPG like D&D or something you should know the basic jist of the rules
hushed bane
ooh this is a cool layout
Graphic design is my passion
(it took me 2 hours of browsing google fonts to actually start)
regal mulch
yknow should we scrap the iterator and scav races
the game seems better suited for slugcats
hushed bane
true
i still wanna make them after we've finished the base rules though
it feels too cool not to include
molten birch
(it took me 2 hours of browsing google fonts to actually start)
god thats a mood
its so hard to find good fonts imo 😭
hushed bane
google fonts not letting you add your own downloaded ones is a crime
i could have used the actual rain world fonts
verbal grove
scac does the climb better, but can't jump, can hold 4 spears, but needs time to aim, can't hold stuff in stomach, language: scavenger, can't use creatures as tools, can use 2 rubble to make a spear, etc
hushed bane
although not for the body text though bc then it'd lose the dyslexia compatibility
regal mulch
rain world font would only be for the title
hushed bane
mhm
also PSA to use atkinson hyperlegible in Absolutely Everything because it's the one dyslexic-accessible font that actually looks swag
hushed bane
it feels too cool not to include
especially since it would encourage more people to homebrew non-slugcat races which i think would be a fun challenge
also because Let Me Add The Smart Squidcadas I Made Pls
regal mulch
we can try to include a scavenger and iterator
hushed bane
but it's low priority
hushed bane
yeah agreed
molten birch
^^
regal mulch
we add other races after everything else
hushed bane
also since iterators and scavs would also be in the bestiary
verbal grove
I feel like my current only OC, The Leo, would be a barbarian style build
hushed bane
so after we do their stats there we can just put them in the races
hushed bane
I feel like my current only OC, The Leo, would be a barbarian style build
sounds rad
we don't have any barbarian-type slugcats
closest would be hunter? gourmand?
gourmand isn't good at combat though
verbal grove
hunter is a fighter class
regal mulch
hunter, spearmaster, and artificer are the like
verbal grove
gourmand is an artificer (crafter, not the character)
regal mulch
physical combat classes
monk and saint are the spellcasters
rivulet, gourd, host we dont know yet
survivor is an all around generalist
nightcat is a stealth atacker
verbal grove
this is my character's kinda old referance sheet
molten birch
i dont really have any slug ocs that have a title like that lol they just have regular names
verbal grove
||You see Night Cat brooding in the corner, looking for ways to kill everyone in the room.||
regal mulch
youd put them in homebrew
verbal grove
so like a big cat slugcat?
ya, but I made him have a few weaknesses
hushed bane
i have the host and then one i designed for a friend, the scout
regal mulch
id put scout in homebrew
verbal grove
1 is that he doesn't throw well
regal mulch
host fits better as we needed a tamer
hushed bane
here's the scout
verbal grove
more of a lobbing than a percise throw
hushed bane
they can craft spears that act as tracking devices + have big hearing
molten birch
awww cute!
hushed bane
host fits better as we needed a tamer
yeah agreed
regal mulch
a slugcat with an overseer would be fun
verbal grove
here's the scout
scout seems sneaky
hushed bane
they can expend food to make tiny daddy long legs creatures
which can be sacrificed in combat or used to (not usually successfully) locate food
regal mulch
added an image for nightcat
hushed bane
OH??
regal mulch
arena one
hushed bane
yeah that works
hushed bane
which can be sacrificed in combat or used to (not usually successfully) locate f...
a cool ability too is that they can be sent into uncharted territory and the host can tell if danger is present by sensing if they're still alive
verbal grove
I can just imagine night cat being played by some edgy rogue, sorry
hushed bane
lmaoo
regal mulch
i was thinking host could have a rotted overseer they use but uh
you already have that lmao
molten birch
a slugcat with an overseer would be fun
mm like an automation type deal? talkin about the mod btw
except instead of neurons it's an overseer?
molten birch
ooh
hushed bane
oh yeah here's my lil host baby for anyone who hasnt seen it
regal mulch
if you want i might be able to round them off
hushed bane
im tempted to call the little daddy long legs guys baby long legs
since we have brother long legs
verbal grove
im tempted to call the little daddy long legs guys baby long legs
tiny rot
hushed bane
transposed to D&D classes:
survivor - fighter
monk - druid
hunter - barbarian
nightcat - rogue
artificer - paladin?
gourmand - artificer
spearmaster - ranger
rivulet - monk
saint - cleric
host - warlock
hushed bane
id put scout in homebrew
i plan to have them as the one example homebrew race
regal mulch
most of them arent a great translation
hushed bane
yeah true
verbal grove
transposed to D&D classes:
survivor - fighter
monk - druid
hunter - barbarian
ni...
I want to draw night cat brooding in a corner lol
hushed bane
they have very different niches because of how differently D&D works from S&S
OH ALSO for anyone who didnt know
slugcats can cast spells now
hushed bane
any slugcat can do it but monk and saint are best
regal mulch
honestly spells might not be the best name
also hunter has less blessings so they cant cast as many spells
verbal grove
I bet artificer would legit need to soak in the blood of intelligent creatures to become more powerful
cause artificer needs scavs to pass karma gates
hushed bane
molten birch
charms?
regal mulch
i like runes
hushed bane
cant wait to play monk and cast my mumbo jumbo
charms and runes both feel like actual objects though
regal mulch
yeah
hushed bane
maybe it's my hollow knight brainrot speaking but idk
molten birch
maybe lol
mm i like hex and enchantments to!
hushed bane
it should be religious
molten birch
i think enchantments might work
molten birch
trance possibly?
molten birch
ooh i like those two
verbal grove
question, how would hunter's 20 cycle tll perm death work?
hushed bane
since the karma stuff has this buddhist type theming to it
hushed bane
question, how would hunter's 20 cycle tll perm death work?
isn't in this
too harsh of a downside
and plus the slugcat races are more like
molten birch
they're more like different species now i think? based on what im reading in the doc
molten birch
instead of being individuals, hunter is just the classification you'd give to the character
hushed bane
that way it feels more personal to you
regal mulch
yeah
we made sure to be very vague with them
the biggest descriptor is mentions of a pack in a description for a survivor adaptation
hushed bane
even then it's not presented as the survivor being separate from its old pack
just an instinct that can take root
regal mulch
yeah
theres some minor descriptions about how you learned the skill or what it does
like the pearl one just says you studied some pearls
hushed bane
alright
we need 20 injuries
20 permanent gruesome injuries for our squishy scug friends
regal mulch
shouldnt this only apply if the whole party dies?
i feel like its a good idea to use jolly coops system
you can take their body to the shelter if it isnt like
unretrievable
and itll revive them
regal mulch
wait does the party lose 1 karma for every party member that dies?
hushed bane
that works
hushed bane
wait does the party lose 1 karma for every party member that dies?
Yes
regal mulch
that seems a bit too harsh
hushed bane
this is balanced out by the fact that more slugcats means better chance of survival right?
you gotta learn to be responsible for everyone in the pack
regal mulch
i would say that the entire pack needs to reach the shelter to survive
if that happens 1 karma is gained
if a member dosent make it they all lose 1 karma for every member that dosent make it
but the member returns with none of their items
hushed bane
i would say that the entire pack needs to reach the shelter to survive
yeah but when you die you just return to the spot where you died i'd say
regal mulch
splitting up the party isnt a great idea imo
molten birch
^
regal mulch
still
molten birch
mm i think jolly's system would be the way to go
regal mulch
im just saying i think my idea works better
+1 karma if everyone survives, -1 karma for every slugcat that makes it but dies, -2 karma for every slugcat that dosent make it and dies
or make karma individual
molten birch
karma is an individual thing in rain world's lore but idk how well it would work with a ttrpg system
molten birch
i think keeping karma as a collective party thing would be better gameplay wise
it would be harder to manage if it was individual
regal mulch
i would get rid of this part
hushed bane
i think keeping karma as a collective party thing would be better gameplay wise
yeah, at first i wanted it individual but quickly realised how awful that would be
hushed bane
i would get rid of this part
why tho
regal mulch
it seems redundant
hushed bane
i think it's punishing enough
regal mulch
just say you continue starving
hushed bane
no because then that's even worse
regal mulch
wait is it uh
hushed bane
since you only exit starvation after eating to full
regal mulch
if you get a 3 or 4 you stop rolling disadvantage
hushed bane
mhm
regal mulch
ah ok
hushed bane
this is like a slightly more forgiving version
regal mulch
so i think karma should go this way
+1 karma for survival
-1 karma for every death
hushed bane
should we make it so starvation goes away after filling all the food pips like ingame or just the required one
hushed bane
-1 karma for every death
this works
regal mulch
i already added that to starvation mechanics
hushed bane
oh sweet
i feel like filling the reserve food is a little too harsh though
since more party members means less food to go around
WAIT NO
rain world's pretty forgiving with food anyway
molten birch
yeah
regal mulch
i think its fine
hushed bane
yeahh im stressing over nothing
regal mulch
the GM can just give out more food that cycle
and creatures give a lot of food anyways
+food crafting
molten birch
nod nod
hushed bane
and since im making a lot of homebrew food
regal mulch
along with some slugcats might have ways to gain food faster
hushed bane
i have a little notepad file containing all my food ideas
molten birch
along with some slugcats might have ways to gain food faster
yeah yeah, popcorn plants being a good source for vegan slugs and with there being lizards Everywhere usually, carnivorous slugs wont have much to worry about
hushed bane
nah
hushed bane
just have any crafting recipes for stuff listed in the info
regal mulch
ok
hushed bane
and whether you can find them or not also listed
regal mulch
we should split into food, items, weapons, etc
regal mulch
yeah
hushed bane
and just lump food and carnivorous plants together?
i think that makes the most sense
regal mulch
lump food and hostile plants together
hushed bane
then have items and weapons be the same category
hushed bane
id say plants
regal mulch
yeah
hushed bane
just for the sake of consistency
regal mulch
3 categories of plants
hostile, food, beneficial
items go into 2 categories
items, weapons
can you add another thing at the bottom beneath flora
a items section
verbal grove
beneficial plants can be something like a bat nip, bubble weed, and those fire cracker plants, right?
regal mulch
yep
hushed bane
ooo
regal mulch
they are that btw
hushed bane
so it can be crafted with those two?
regal mulch
i would say so
hushed bane
that'd be rad
regal mulch
moons dialouge suggets you can do that
rock + flashbang too
weve seen that by gourmand
molten birch
yeah yeah
regal mulch
yeah
can i change death and rebirth into a cycle tab and just explain those mechanics there
hushed bane
thorny fruit / plant that gives a lot of food but needs cracking open
seed / nut / fungus? that gives a bit of food but can be planted / grown in moist conditions to be bigger later
moss that doesn't give any food when eaten but can be used in crafting to make better food
overgrown blue fruit - gives way more food but is a top priority for both squidcadas and a new type of batfly, the fruit batfly
plant that mimics a corpse to attract carnivores - "bones" are actually prehensile spines that can kill
flower that unleashes cloud of toxic gas when approached
hushed bane
can i change death and rebirth into a cycle tab and just explain those mechanics...
yeah
hushed bane
thorny fruit / plant that gives a lot of food but needs cracking open
seed / nut...
these are rough notes
molten birch
ooh i like the idea of thorny fruit
hushed bane
i think a lot of foods should offer unique challenges
now that we have a stats system and actual skills
regal mulch
should a slugcat be able to starve but the rest of the party dosent
hushed bane
Yes
especially since there's slugcats with different diets
i see no reason for the whole party to starve when your food metre is your own
regal mulch
also i changed this to also affect dying while starving
hushed bane
NICE
regal mulch
also i made this to be additonally
hushed bane
cool cool
regal mulch
ill clarify that the party should always start at the same shelter
hushed bane
oh yeah that's good
regal mulch
ill also add a like
"unless they willingly chose to seperate"
so if they intentionally seperate and sleep in different shelters thats fine
nah i dont want to do that
how about
if party members are seperated at the end of a cycle they all get sent to one shelter
hushed bane
yeah
wait
idk if you need to specify this
feels like something a GM could just decide anyway
regal mulch
also should we make you roll a d4 before the permanent injury table with a 50% chance to get one
ok i wont specify it
hushed bane
also should we make you roll a d4 before the permanent injury table with a 50% c...
idk, i think a permanent injury should be a definite thing
so death has high stakes still
regal mulch
hm
hushed bane
as permadeath is no longer a thing
regal mulch
maybe add a small chance to avoid one
and add a check for if you get one
like a tolerance or resistance
i say a d8, 6 or 7 and below get a permanent injury
hushed bane
maybe have it be bleak then
regal mulch
7 or below get a personal injury so uh
hushed bane
permanent injuries should be a big deal and near-inevitable
regal mulch
at a +3 resistance you can have a 11
actually yknow what
8 or below get a permanent injury
so you need some resistance to avoid one
4-11 odds are you get a permanent injury
or we can make it really really high chance and have it be 9 or below
ok 8 or below theres a 63% chance for permanent injury
9 or below a 75% chance
those are with resistance +3
@hushed bane would this work?
or just make it happen 100% of the time
lets go with that instead
hushed bane
back
regal mulch
but have a 19 or 20 not give an injury
hushed bane
<@447340800322306049> would this work?
yee this works
regal mulch
these arent going to actually affect your stats right?
molten birch
^^ i agree with that
regal mulch
just a roleplay thing
hushed bane
these arent going to actually affect your stats right?
if any do they should be minimal
molten birch
depends on the injury
regal mulch
if you roll a 1 you get turbo cancer and need to make a new character in 20 cycles
molten birch
i think most that are just like. body scars wouldnt inhibit gameplay
regal mulch
hushed bane
LMAO
molten birch
but lost eyes or lost limbs would
regal mulch
that would be kind of funny though
hushed bane
you get the rot
molten birch
we do a little trolling
hushed bane
and have to play rotcat
regal mulch
maybe you can add your resistance to it
molten birch
stay in 5p too long and you get infected with Rot™️ /j
hushed bane
that seems a little unintuitive
i think there should be minor stat decreases but nothing game changing
molten birch
i think there should be minor stat decreases but nothing game changing
this yeah
regal mulch
just roleplay stuff
hushed bane
no stat decreases imo
alright that's fair
regal mulch
wait
molten birch
the only things that would decrease stats would be like, losing an eye or a limb
hushed bane
where did survivors thing about the authenticity score go
got rid of that so i could add it in contests
realised the mechanic was literally how contests work
regal mulch
well the authenticity score would be done beforehand would it not
so its different enough to warrant the description imo
hushed bane
i feel like making a completely new score for each pearl is a little finicky as opposed to just rolling against an allure stat
regal mulch
also in the inventory youd want to clarify the counterfeit pearls authenticity score
like
regal mulch
Counterfeit Pearl (Authenticity Score)
regal mulch
yeah
regal mulch
i can retype it if you want its fine
regal mulch
ok i made it a bit longer but more clear
regal mulch
where would info about bright, average, and dim light go
hushed bane
i think that would be cute
regal mulch
sure
hushed bane
where would info about bright, average, and dim light go
special conditions?
oh we need character sheets
we'll do that later
regal mulch
we will do that once we get everything figured out
hushed bane
yeah
regal mulch
i think a "special mechanics" section would be fine
that explains light and other stuff that goes there like underwater movement
like
uh
oh i know
environmental mechanics?
hushed bane
yeah sure!
regal mulch
actually ill just change the description of this section to make it more open
hushed bane
ye
regal mulch
this works
hushed bane
OMG
verbal grove
question, what are these slugcat's view on iterators and scavengers?
regal mulch
depends on the player
hushed bane
I HAVE AN IDEA
regal mulch
what is it
hushed bane
this works
nice!!
regal mulch
nice one
verbal grove
I can imagine a functioning iterator is just unkillable
and a broken down iterator like Moon would erase you from existence
regal mulch
can i make some adaptations
hushed bane
yeah sure
hushed bane
yeah
regal mulch
oh and also +1 unarmed damage
hushed bane
maybe adaptations that just give you spells?
regal mulch
yeah i like that idea
hushed bane
like different sets of adaptations
some for support spells, attack spells, heal spells
regal mulch
how many adaptations would we want though
hushed bane
as many as we can think of
regal mulch
im thinking around 20 to 30 by the end hopefully
hushed bane
yeah that's a good number
regal mulch
do you have any ideas for them though
@hushed bane should i italicize ability names
actually even better do we need to list the abilities because theyre already in the class description
i think we should
hushed bane
<@447340800322306049> should i italicize ability names
yeah
regal mulch
what about the uh
counterfeit archivist
should that count as an ability?
or does that just count as your adaptation and you dont need to list it
regal mulch
no im listing like
the uh
survival instincts
that stuff
should we list that in abilities?
or is it fine the way it is
hushed bane
nah, only the racial adaptations
since the survival instincts stuff are just traits you have by default
regal mulch
ok i dont think we need to list racial adaptations then
hushed bane
ah ok
regal mulch
is +2 blessings too little
hushed bane
nah that works
regal mulch
ill order them alphabetically at the end
hushed bane
more base attack damage?
first strike - you have advantage on your first attack action in any conflict
regal mulch
that could be good
but the again
we want these to be noticable but not super strong
regal mulch
im saying it might be on the weaker side
we should seperate it into two parts though
spells and stats
or what are we calling spells agin
@hushed bane should you start with 10 karma or 5 karma max
hushed bane
5
hushed bane
or what are we calling spells agin
rites i think
regal mulch
also i think the roll against you should be an average one, but the roll against a creature depends on a creature
like a green needs an easy roll
regal mulch
thats the player
regal mulch
@hushed bane dont think we need this
we arent using a strict turn based combat are we
up to the DM to decide how often creatures attack
hushed bane
well yeah, but it's sort of a given that a creature will attack afterwards in response
or at least make an action
it's back and forth
dark rain
it's probably unnecessary
hushed bane
i'll just say the opposing creature makes an action then
"often attempt" feels too
unsure
like a creature Will make an action no matter what
doesn't have to be combat
dark rain
idk I'd focus on ur mechanics before helping people run it
hushed bane
if you stab a lizard they won't just chill in place and do nothing
regal mulch
ok fair enough
hushed bane
because actions don't have to be combat
regal mulch
ok i changed it
hushed bane
yee
regal mulch
will you be able to like
attempt to block an attack for another player if a creature comes their way while theyre blocking
regal mulch
i feel like if that was happening it would go like
player 1: i attempt to block the creatures attack
GM: while you prepare the block the creature, another member of its pack runs at you to attack
player 2: i block the other creatures attack
then they both roll
something like hat
hushed bane
yeah i know
like blocking the attack if it's at a party member?
that's perfectly fine since then YOU risk failing the block and taking damage
hushed bane
means it's still dangerous but a valid strategy
like if a party member has super low health it's probably a good idea
regal mulch
what would the block roll be compared to a dodge roll
dodge is agility block is what
resistance?
hushed bane
yeah
regal mulch
and while a teammate is attacking a creature you could say run in and pull a spear out
i think its a good idea
hushed bane
yeah okay
feints are funny since if you've already feinted with your resistance and agility the best option you have left is allure
Flirt with the lizard
regal mulch
"hey are you a scavenger because i would use multiple improvised explosives on you and your family"
dies
hushed bane
LMAO
regal mulch
anyways uh
i think i should say something about joint actions like
while a party member is attacking or blocking, you can do any action that dosent involve a weapon or rite to a creature
hushed bane
sure
also maybe Level 1 has you pick an adaptation
?
rn you only get an adaptation 3 times
regal mulch
actually i think when i lits common combat actions under "pull a weapon out" ill mention that you can do it while a party member is blocking, attacking, or dodging without risk of being targeted during it
hushed bane
actually i think when i lits common combat actions under "pull a weapon out" ill...
that works
regal mulch
wait for a feint
do you still take the damage from an attack if you fail a dodge then succeed a block
hushed bane
no
hushed bane
sure!
regal mulch
yeah ill show what you can commonly do
hushed bane
im gonna go now but I'll be brainstorming some spells and adaptations
regal mulch
you gonna sleep?
hushed bane
yep
regal mulch
goodnight then
regal mulch
should the difficulty of certain things be determined on the fly by the dm or pre set
like trying to stab a creature with a spear
should we let the dm decide in the moment, have one difficulty for every weapon type, or have the difficulty be said in the weapons item description
as like a list of what you can do
i think letting the dm decide in the moment is a good idea
because you cant account for everything
what if a player trys to disarm an opponent
or pin them to a wall
i think the dm should just decide the difficulty class on the spot
as theres only 4 to remember
creatures can have pre set difficulty classes they need to pass for their stuff though
warped thistle
im glad you guys got your thread 
regal mulch
hi jev
document is in the pins if you want to read what we have so far
id like your feedback
lofty venture
Some of us actually know how to implement mechanics in TTRPGs and are very passionate about it. 
Does not include me
regal mulch
i havent made a TTRPG before nor played them
i have 2 dnd sets (starter and essentials)
will i ever play them? probably not
i just like having them
and i have social anxiety
BUT I GOT 3 SETS OF DICE
LOVE ME MY DICE
regal mulch
maybe
verbal grove
I would like to play slugcat dnd, but I am not that good with other people, Covid and autism are 2 of the reasons
regal mulch
this server wouldnt judge you if you played here
i think we should make the diet restrictions a bit simplier
just say "this creature is a herbivore/carnivore/insectivore/omnivore"
then in each food/creature we clarify what can eat them
ill do that
as it also applys to creatures
dark rain
i only eat cheese sticks
regal mulch
regal mulch
why in this channel
quartz gazelle
Inspiration
regal mulch
i think we should make the diet restrictions a bit simplier
actually no not a good idea
ignore that
dark rain
r the ability scores actually used for anything
or are they 5e ability scores and are fucking worthless
verbal grove
just say "this creature is a herbivore/carnivore/insectivore/omnivore"
My character, The Leo eats the diet of an Average American, just meats, the occasional side dish of potato
A carnivore, if you would
dark rain
potato is a vegetable
im working on a google sheet for use as a character sheet
since i find that convenient
but its a little early to make it lol
since i have no clue how char creation works
unless one of yall have that in your head and want to walk me thru it
dark rain
the scores
not the mods
theres a table with scores and mods in the character creation
dark rain
ic ic
regal mulch
we arent sure if we are gonna with that
dark rain
ability scores more like ability BORES
regal mulch
my suggestion was a point buy system as i dont like random rolls
dark rain
if ur scores dont matter then might as well remove them
ye
what do you want the average mod to be
+1?
regal mulch
well you usually specalize but you should only end with a net gain of like
2-3 points at the start
ending at around 7-8
my idea was a point buy system for stats at character creation
you have 3 positive points to spend and you have to spend 1 negative
dark rain
cause it allows more build variety
regal mulch
true but the build variety already comes from other stuff
dark rain
cant hurt
regal mulch
like adaptations, your race, what subclass (racial adaptation), what points you assign via level up
dark rain
but slugcat is the species
regal mulch
actually what even are the different types of slugcats called
dark rain
its more focused around what the character can do rather than what they are
difficulties
regal mulch
mutations?
dark rain
genotype doesnt have an essentialist connotation like races does too
which is pretty epic
regal mulch
fair
i think species works
theyre all slugcats but different species
species is my choice
technically subspecies is more accurate but
dark rain
so theyre actually a member of the genus slugcat
dark rain
something something karmic balance
regal mulch
purpose does sound neat
regal mulch
should the difficulty of certain things be determined on the fly by the dm or pr...
also what do you think for this
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