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verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 4:52 PM

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or no

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wait no im dumb

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i thought liz would let you bypass it lol

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but then im like wait its a racial stat

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 4:53 PM

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well id say thats greenies done

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back to another thing brought up earlier

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burrowing scavplead

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should it be reserved for a future species adap or be a general lizard adap

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 4:54 PM

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we do a little trolling

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future species adap lol

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 4:54 PM

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aight then

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 4:54 PM

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i'd be willing to work on moles

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 4:54 PM

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nice

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 4:54 PM

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could be interesting

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is it possible to not let certain players have information

hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 5:11 PM

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@somber plover @regal mulch gonna need your token images soon-ish

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 5:12 PM

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i am

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homme

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 5:14 PM

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hrmhmmm
i still wish to make some unique adaps..

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considering swapping combat ready on glaive to throw to test it out

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 5:20 PM

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i think i might have come up with a way that mole lizards could be playable

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although it'd be pretty tough

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having to not actually be in the vc and just having to use the dm as only source of information

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 5:20 PM

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addition for throw so it has some use if theres nobody else in range

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 5:20 PM

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you can ONLY hear things

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that and fell

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feel

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the balancing factor being you can hear things through walls

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and you're better at hearing than most

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burrowing and stealth

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i feel like it'd be neat

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probably not very effective though lol

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 5:22 PM

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warped ice considering swapping combat ready on glaive to throw to test it out

gonna do this
i wanna throw things around
also should i remove the requirement of the pinned creature having to have less than your max health to be thrown

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because it'd be kinda useless on the lower health lizzos like blues n stuff

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 5:22 PM

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ehhh yeah ok

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plus dm can simply say

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'no'

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to throwing leviathans

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 5:23 PM

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exactly

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 5:24 PM

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warped ice because it'd be kinda useless on the lower health lizzos like blues n stuff

because like
if that rule applies and you're a blue WITHOUT hearty, basically all you can throw that'd be meaningful is a slugcat because everything else has more health than you

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 5:24 PM

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verbal ferry i think i might have come up with a way that mole lizards could be playable

for mole lizards i've thought about giving them two things

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1 - super hearing
2 - extremely limited vision (but not no vision)

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i.e you have a set vision range that you must take into account at all times that surrounds your character

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within that radius you may treat it as if you're viewing it through dim light

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outside of this radius, you can't see it at all

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mole lizards are immune to the dim/no light accuracy debuff if and only if they are able to locate their target prior
this can be a teammate attacking them and making noise, the target being within range of their big ol' adorable whiskers, any noise being created by the enemy creature, etc

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 5:40 PM

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oh right

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gong mode

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(hearing only)

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 5:45 PM

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it's basically just spore with no eyes

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verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 5:49 PM

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yes lol

verbal sandal Sep 17, 2022, 5:52 PM

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magic oasis

Shame Spore eventually gives up and gives you full vision anyway once you get far enough.

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 5:53 PM

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tribal stage

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:02 PM

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bible stage

verbal sandal Sep 17, 2022, 6:22 PM

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I'm introducing a playable lizard to Project Monsoon, the Monitor.
Traits can give them access to an acid spit or wall walking, in addition to a few shared traits with Slugs/Scavs.

(I'll likely need to check balance, though).

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 6:23 PM

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monitor lizards when they meet the keyboard lizard

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verbal sandal Sep 17, 2022, 6:26 PM

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magic oasis monitor lizards when they meet the keyboard lizard

Also, I didn't feel like making a custom Monitor design for the moment, so I just recoloured a yellow lizard and resized them a bit.

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 6:26 PM

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ye, i can see

verbal sandal Sep 17, 2022, 6:30 PM

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magic oasis ye, i can see

Just thought of an edge case that's amusing.
Due to how PM handles mounts, you could theoretically have a Rain Deer carrying a Green Lizard carrying a Monitor carrying a Scavenger carrying a Slugpup carrying a Batfly.

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 6:30 PM

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verbal sandal Just thought of an edge case that's amusing. Due to how PM handles mounts, you c...

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 6:34 PM

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dang i wanna make a custom lizard now

verbal sandal Sep 17, 2022, 6:39 PM

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magic oasis

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Low effort mockup of the logical conclusion of PM's mounting mechanics.

somber plover Sep 17, 2022, 6:46 PM

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what percentage of the group is lizar

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:46 PM

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i mean it makes sense

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1/2 btw

somber plover Sep 17, 2022, 6:46 PM

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💀💀💀

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:46 PM

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i mean half of that is orange

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 6:47 PM

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lizorangesmart

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:47 PM

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and then im just there as a green

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 6:48 PM

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dont forget the best part of lizar

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battle s teed

somber plover Sep 17, 2022, 6:49 PM

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one for each party member

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:49 PM

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well not very reliable in my case since

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i made a fucking wwe wrestler thing

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 6:49 PM

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THOUGHT

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COULD YOU GENTLY PICK UP AN ALLY IN MOUF AND THROW WITH THE ADAP

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:50 PM

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probably

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 6:50 PM

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HELL YES

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:50 PM

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if they didnt hit anything too hard then yeah

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 6:50 PM

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just dont throw em too hard

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dont hurt your friends :)

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:50 PM

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if you roll low, dammage

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lol

hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 6:51 PM

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@regal mulch what did you use to make the tokens circles

regal mulch Sep 17, 2022, 6:51 PM

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token maker 2

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:52 PM

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gughning

verbal sandal Sep 17, 2022, 6:52 PM

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I'm currently trying to come up with more traits for Scavengers. I have Sharp Spines, Secret Pocket, and Evasive Hop.

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:52 PM

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idk man those sound pretty good

hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 6:52 PM

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regal mulch token maker 2

ty

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 6:53 PM

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wagigas

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 6:55 PM

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wagoogas

somber plover Sep 17, 2022, 6:58 PM

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wagoigas

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 7:00 PM

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wa

somber plover Sep 17, 2022, 7:04 PM

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googagis

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 7:09 PM

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goging

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 7:15 PM

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goog

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as

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 7:36 PM

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soon

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 7:37 PM

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™️

hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 7:38 PM

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ill be in ampitheatre

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waiting

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@regal mulch @warped ice @magic oasis @verbal ferry @craggy pulsar @somber plover
starting in 20 minutes!!

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:40 PM

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ababababa

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 7:40 PM

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yes

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:40 PM

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hi fizzy

hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 7:40 PM

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also may i have your characters' names too just so i know

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:40 PM

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can we have the roll20 link

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my orange lizard is halberd

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 7:40 PM

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mine is glaive!

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:41 PM

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🤝

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 7:41 PM

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🤝

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:41 PM

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we're unrelated

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 7:41 PM

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just homie

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:41 PM

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hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 7:42 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/482958702211497994/805899221764276244/speed_2.gif

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:42 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-broken-cat-cat-drinking-cat-licking-cat-air-gif-20661740

Tenor

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my screen rn unfortunately @hushed bane

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 7:46 PM

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@regal mulch do you know how to disable people's like

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avatars in the bottom left

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:46 PM

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no

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autumn doesn't either, i saw those enabled while they were streaming

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 7:47 PM

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oh lol

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 7:47 PM

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just drag em all into the corner on top of each other

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 7:51 PM

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hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 7:55 PM

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@craggy pulsar @regal mulch @somber plover session starts Very Soon!!

craggy pulsar Sep 17, 2022, 7:55 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849523161301385226/1014935184308703332/HarmoniousMasculineGemsbuck-size_restricted.gif

hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 7:55 PM

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get in ampitheatre Fools

craggy pulsar Sep 17, 2022, 7:56 PM

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Gime

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iobe

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moment

somber plover Sep 17, 2022, 7:58 PM

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wagooba

hushed bane Sep 17, 2022, 7:58 PM

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LETS GO H

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GET IN

ember sentinel Sep 17, 2022, 8:00 PM

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start without me, i have water leaking from my water heater

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 8:54 PM

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verbal sandal Sep 17, 2022, 8:55 PM

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verbal ferry

Pathetic. I'm rolling ∞d6 as we speak.

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 8:56 PM

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slugscrem

verbal ferry Sep 17, 2022, 8:56 PM

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gone

magic oasis Sep 17, 2022, 11:02 PM

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@warped ice why can't we just give greens caustic leap

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also bye bye

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 11:48 PM

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spears and slugcats dedicated server when

regal mulch Sep 17, 2022, 11:55 PM

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soon™️

warped ice Sep 17, 2022, 11:57 PM

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we will make it the COOLEST rain world server

magic oasis Sep 18, 2022, 12:11 AM

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it would be so awesome

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it would be so exclusive

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 12:35 AM

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yes

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 12:36 AM

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the Cool Zone™️

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:10 AM

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also things would be so much better if we could like
pin stuff
and have more areas to organise things into

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:16 AM

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yes

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mmm

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i just realized big spider would just be offbrand cyan lol

quartz gazelle Sep 18, 2022, 1:22 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/919257257793966163/1017550582204084244/uncaption.gif

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:25 AM

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quartz gazelle https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/919257257793966163/1017550582204084244/...

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/824027398948782180/1012093290683830322/mini_hops.gif

magic oasis Sep 18, 2022, 1:26 AM

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ice climbers

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:26 AM

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i just got an amazing character idea

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"cannon"

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cyan lizard with double jump

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use double jump to "fall" into enemies twice per round

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muhahahahaha

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combine that with webbed arms and

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basically infinite mobility

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ngl this sounds like an awesome character to play

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fucking comboing people to death

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@warped ice yoyo

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i just got the stupidest build ever

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:31 AM

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wa

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:31 AM

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double jump to fall into people twice

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:32 AM

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that's a very stupid build i love it
waste your species adap and an adap for poor but comedic damage

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:32 AM

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yes

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i mean it would reasonably stun people

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:33 AM

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and it's very stylish

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:33 AM

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plus it could be used to gain a positional advantage

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mmm

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2d6 isnt horrible for something that could reasonably stunlock people

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:35 AM

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but you could also just bite good for the same effect

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:37 AM

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yeah but. . . funny

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:38 AM

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true..

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:38 AM

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therefore completely optimal

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god damn.. . .

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why do you have to actually balance things

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crying

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:39 AM

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you think my stuff is BALANCED

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:39 AM

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i cant fucking

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infinitely combo people with no penalty

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im so angryyyyyy

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:40 AM

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just play a party of pack tactics oranges

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and get good rolls on your bites

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:41 AM

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wait

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tongues can grab items right

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:41 AM

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yes

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:41 AM

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if so, can you just, hold onto an item upon retracting the tongue

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and then shoot out your tongue again

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without actually letting go of the item

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and by that logic stab people with spears

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:42 AM

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does the tongue even have enough force to stab with spear

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:42 AM

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idk lol

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im just trying to come up with silly ways to exploit the system if at all possible

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:42 AM

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Good

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:43 AM

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singular check

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essentially a passive

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not very versatile

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WAIT

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@warped ice

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does this mean three jumps total

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 1:46 AM

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yea

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 1:46 AM

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3d6

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actually viable????1?

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 2:00 AM

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warped ice yea

genuine question

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do you have any idea why a player would play blue lizard over white\

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 2:01 AM

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nope

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 2:01 AM

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that's kind of a major problem

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ehh

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i guess low food pip cost

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NOPE

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only 1 less

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💀

regal mulch Sep 18, 2022, 2:51 AM

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regal mulch Sep 18, 2022, 3:13 AM

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i did both worm grass, bubble fruit, karma flower, slime mold, and bubble weed

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You guys have a nice session? slugloafcry

magic oasis Sep 18, 2022, 3:30 AM

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yes

verbal ferry Sep 18, 2022, 3:33 AM

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yes

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i nearly killed another party member a couple times

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also we got to eat glass

regal mulch Sep 18, 2022, 3:47 AM

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wait ive performed +FISTFUL OF DOLLAR and +MAURICED

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what else could i do

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wait +CONDUCTOR

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i need to make nails

verbal sandal Sep 18, 2022, 8:45 AM

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OK, I've cobbled together a server for the discussion and running of Rain World TTRPGs. https://discord.gg/wBrNCYkP

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 8:59 AM

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wag igas

somber plover Sep 18, 2022, 9:13 AM

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wagoogagis

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 9:17 AM

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wagagoobagis

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 10:37 AM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/13GAcdNhofkBy9lyvIb88xvQNdZHi95C8gwHDZWX9nmA/edit?usp=sharing only got exactly ONE thing that was made for fun and to satisfy the severe lack of robots but ayy

Google Docs

Spears & Slugcats - Bot's goofy ahhh homebrew

[ prepare. ] Overview You’ve stumbled upon a whole new world, one of dense machinery, a jungle of cold metal, and a whole host of new critters and creatures, of fearsome foes and new allies. You’re unsure of this land, but there’s a light up ahead. Surely it won’t hurt to investigate. You may dis...

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coming soon™️ playable iterators but not shit

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atleast not AS bad

verbal sandal Sep 18, 2022, 11:03 AM

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Marginally better.

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 11:03 AM

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verbal sandal OK, I've cobbled together a server for the discussion and running of Rain World ...

all the cool people hurry up and join monkpower

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 11:03 AM

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verbal sandal Marginally better.

still big improvement over what it was before

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unrelated but nearly reached 1.5k messages and almost all of them are exclusively in this thread

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woohoo

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gotta say

@hushed bane thank you for pinging me here on 23rd of july you have done a very cool with that

hushed bane Sep 18, 2022, 11:06 AM

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slugloaf

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 11:08 AM

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slugGAN

somber plover Sep 18, 2022, 11:30 AM

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warped ice all the cool people hurry up and join <:monkpower:829481189756764191>

:0 am i not the cool people

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 11:31 AM

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all the cool people that are still not in it*

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 4:13 PM

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warped ice https://docs.google.com/document/d/13GAcdNhofkBy9lyvIb88xvQNdZHi95C8gwHDZWX9nmA/...

now has two slugcat species types

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:]

magic oasis Sep 18, 2022, 4:14 PM

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verbal sandal OK, I've cobbled together a server for the discussion and running of Rain World ...

reminder

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join

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i think it'll be useful for when we don't want to get interrupted at all

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 4:14 PM

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everyone join if you're certified cool

magic oasis Sep 18, 2022, 4:14 PM

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plus we'll be able to actually pin stuff and organize it

verbal sandal Sep 18, 2022, 4:15 PM

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Plus it lets both systems more easily coexist.

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 4:15 PM

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dedicated homebrew and official resource channels ‼️

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multiple voice channels for when stuff gets more popular ‼️

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and other coolness ‼️

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 6:36 PM

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verbal sandal OK, I've cobbled together a server for the discussion and running of Rain World ...

reminder to join if you're a cool kid that enjoys rain world ttrpg like a cool person

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if you dont join you a BITCH

verbal sandal Sep 18, 2022, 6:49 PM

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I'm not sure if that's exactly good PR, bot.

hushed bane Sep 18, 2022, 6:49 PM

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if you dont join i will Eat you :)

warped ice Sep 18, 2022, 6:50 PM

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if you dont join i will Cry

coral meadow Sep 19, 2022, 2:18 AM

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verbal sandal I'm not sure if that's exactly good PR, bot.

Nah it’s amazing PR

warped ice Sep 19, 2022, 2:20 AM

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the best PR

regal mulch Sep 20, 2022, 4:20 AM

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join or the fog will get you

warped ice Sep 20, 2022, 5:52 AM

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The Fog Already Has Got You

regal mulch Sep 20, 2022, 6:00 AM

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fog session will be real in 3 sessions!!!!!!!

warped ice Sep 20, 2022, 7:28 AM

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there is no rain
only fog

autumn field Sep 21, 2022, 5:12 AM

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fog world

hushed bane Sep 22, 2022, 10:11 PM

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fog world

regal mulch Sep 22, 2022, 11:37 PM

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verbal sandal OK, I've cobbled together a server for the discussion and running of Rain World ...

@regal mulch join

craggy pulsar Sep 22, 2022, 11:38 PM

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shouldn’t you ask some mod to pin the invite?

regal mulch Sep 22, 2022, 11:39 PM

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garrarrive

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i should

regal mulch Sep 22, 2022, 11:41 PM

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verbal sandal OK, I've cobbled together a server for the discussion and running of Rain World ...

@vernal moat pin this now‼️

vernal moat Sep 23, 2022, 12:04 AM

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verbal sandal OK, I've cobbled together a server for the discussion and running of Rain World ...

warped ice Sep 23, 2022, 7:34 AM

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monkpower

somber plover Sep 23, 2022, 7:34 AM

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🤓

warped ice Sep 23, 2022, 8:03 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/291184728944410624/997631705768804363/caption-5.gif

hushed bane Sep 23, 2022, 8:04 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925818850841354240/990943506723921970/IMG_0787-1-1.gif

regal mulch Sep 23, 2022, 10:42 PM

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this cat EATS BATFLIES

magic oasis Sep 23, 2022, 10:46 PM

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and he ENJOYS IT

warped ice Sep 24, 2022, 11:21 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-melon-gif-21701631

Tenor

warped ice Sep 24, 2022, 11:21 AM

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verbal sandal OK, I've cobbled together a server for the discussion and running of Rain World ...

if you dont join the rain world ttrpg discord server, you're gonna turn into a batfly‼️

somber plover Sep 25, 2022, 4:31 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917203824484159549/992060859473993728/attachment.gif

magic oasis Sep 25, 2022, 4:42 PM

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hog washing

warped ice Sep 25, 2022, 5:59 PM

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keep washing those hogs

verbal ferry Sep 25, 2022, 7:05 PM

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yes

warped ice Sep 26, 2022, 5:40 PM

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hunterbonk

somber plover Sep 29, 2022, 6:24 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016090000066093178/1024806232172798044/31377079-3B6F-40E5-A475-C6B63F2809CB.gif

regal mulch Sep 29, 2022, 10:52 PM

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what the fuck is this creature doing here

somber plover Sep 30, 2022, 8:01 AM

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He was naugty

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@regal mulch also happy birthday

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I think

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Isk

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Idk

regal mulch Sep 30, 2022, 2:00 PM

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week late

somber plover Sep 30, 2022, 2:25 PM

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Awww

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I'm sorrrrryyyyy

hushed bane Sep 30, 2022, 2:25 PM

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Beg for forgiveness

regal mulch Sep 30, 2022, 2:30 PM

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fizzy YOU beg for forgiveness

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respond to the message

hushed bane Sep 30, 2022, 2:31 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-knife-gif-23318995

Tenor

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me on my way to GET you

regal mulch Sep 30, 2022, 2:32 PM

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do you wanna run one shot after this session

kind brook Oct 1, 2022, 9:13 AM

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Is there a Discord for the ttrpg now? The link above is expired.

verbal sandal Oct 1, 2022, 9:14 AM

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https://discord.gg/nvUAbBZv

kind brook Oct 1, 2022, 9:15 AM

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Thanks

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It was also my birthday recently

magic oasis Oct 7, 2022, 2:02 PM

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gwygin

somber plover Oct 8, 2022, 4:19 PM

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guh????

warped ice Oct 9, 2022, 5:47 PM

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rip the thread nightcatsalute

magic oasis Oct 9, 2022, 6:13 PM

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the migration

verbal ferry Oct 10, 2022, 1:29 AM

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gone

vernal moat Oct 11, 2022, 4:12 AM

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should I archive it?

regal mulch Oct 11, 2022, 4:16 AM

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yeah probably just pin a new server link since the old one is outdated

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let me get a new one

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https://discord.gg/RaU64k4hqk

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wagigas

vernal moat Oct 11, 2022, 4:23 AM

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eur eur

vernal moat Oct 11, 2022, 4:23 AM

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regal mulch https://discord.gg/RaU64k4hqk

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pim

craggy pulsar Oct 11, 2022, 4:32 AM

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bye bye chat

regal mulch Oct 11, 2022, 4:47 AM

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surprise rot leviathan hidden within a lantern:

warped ice Oct 12, 2022, 7:35 AM

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I'LL GET THOSE LANTERNS ONE DAY

vernal moat Oct 16, 2022, 1:44 PM

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I suppose I'll close the thread if there are no objections

magic oasis Oct 16, 2022, 1:48 PM

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archive prolly, there's still some stuff here we might want to look back to for reference

vernal moat Oct 16, 2022, 1:50 PM

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oh yes archive I mean

craggy pulsar Oct 16, 2022, 3:25 PM

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bye bye chat

regal mulch Oct 16, 2022, 4:34 PM

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wagigas

regal mulch Oct 16, 2022, 6:10 PM

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Thread murdered

carmine hearth Nov 28, 2022, 6:03 AM

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oh! heres the thread! you cant access it via the old path...

regal mulch Nov 28, 2022, 6:04 AM

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Need something from here?

carmine hearth Nov 28, 2022, 6:08 AM

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nothing at all

carmine hearth Nov 28, 2022, 6:09 AM

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warped ice https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/291184728944410624/997631705768804363/c...

actually ill take this

magic oasis Nov 28, 2022, 12:01 PM

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hrmg
thread was archived for a reason

mild oar Dec 3, 2022, 4:34 PM

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Boop

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slugtroll

craggy pulsar Dec 3, 2022, 4:35 PM

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You fucking what mate

mild oar Dec 3, 2022, 4:35 PM

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I revived the thread slugtroll

craggy pulsar Dec 3, 2022, 4:35 PM

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I get that

mild oar Dec 3, 2022, 4:35 PM

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(i am the evil)

craggy pulsar Dec 3, 2022, 4:35 PM

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And for it you shall be punished

magic oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:35 PM

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hnnrg

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now i have to request archival again.

craggy pulsar Dec 3, 2022, 4:35 PM

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One thousand years in Davy Jones’ locker

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Fregi the lieutenant

verbal sandal Dec 3, 2022, 4:36 PM

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Gaze Upon Rocks will send all 913 of his sapient lizards to hug you to death.

craggy pulsar Dec 3, 2022, 4:36 PM

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Not too much of a bother ay fregi?

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Don’t want this causing further consequences down the line

magic oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:37 PM

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it's no problem

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but thing is, most everyone in the TTRPG server agreed to leave this archived, since we all moved

mild oar Dec 3, 2022, 4:38 PM

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Oh ok

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Sorry scavsad

craggy pulsar Dec 3, 2022, 4:38 PM

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Oh yea

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That’s a good punishment

magic oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:38 PM

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anywho
shoo

craggy pulsar Dec 3, 2022, 4:38 PM

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Forced to join the ttrpg server

vernal moat Dec 3, 2022, 4:42 PM

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@mild oar stop opening it

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I closed it for a reason

mild oar Dec 3, 2022, 4:42 PM

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vernal moat <@809803942677446686> stop opening it

Sorry scavsad

vernal moat Dec 3, 2022, 4:42 PM

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yes be sorry

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thread

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:44 PM

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@hushed bane

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thread 👍

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is it fine if i make a view only link to the document

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:45 PM

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YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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sure thing

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the official one not the planning one

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also thanks tutel

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:45 PM

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you need to add me as an editor

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not just a person with the link

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:46 PM

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o right

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how do i do that

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:46 PM

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share and then add me

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funnierseason@gmail.com

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:47 PM

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done

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Also does it actually send through like

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emails

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:47 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c5WbbZYUDzZ_yfAJqQ2Gskch1G8dmAk-PIw-C1xDUV8/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Spears & Slugcats - A Rain World TTRPG

Overview TBA Basic Rules TBA Combat & Encounters TBA Creating your Character TBA Races SLUGCATS TEMPLATE [Image] [Descripton] Innate Stats: When creating a character with this race, alter the stats as follows: KARMA stats Substats The [guy] has [x] Required food pips and [x] Reserve food pips....

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:47 PM

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NICE

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:48 PM

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hushed bane Also does it actually send through like

because if you can see my email account name that's my Deadname and id prefer if you just ignore it

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:48 PM

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i will

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:48 PM

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i mean you got the rad flag in your pfp im sure you know how it is

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:48 PM

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i know how it is

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anyways uh

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what should monks special spell be

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it needs to useful but not too overpowered

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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should be a utility thing

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maybe like goodberry?

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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yeah

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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but not as powerful

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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whats that do

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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D&D druid spell that summons in food basically

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in fact nah that would kind of be op in any case

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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maybe it can be like a distraction

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or maybe only monk has the reinforce karma spell

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:51 PM

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i like the distraction idea

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summon food that distracts predators?

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:51 PM

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that could work

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or it could be something that gives a bonus depending on your current karma

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like uh

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maybe a heal based on karma

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that would probably be a subclass though

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yeah a distraction

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or like

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3 blessings to get a shield that blocks the next attack

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:52 PM

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i feel like how attacks work

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that wouldn't be TOO necessary

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ive basically just nabbed how the jojo ttrpg handles attacks because it works so well

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i won't explain it in it's entirety rn (although it is quite simple) but when an enemy attacks you, if you've got enough "momentum" (special combat stat that changes based on how well you hit) you can declare what stat you think the enemy will use to attack with
if you're correct you can dodge the attack
if you're incorrect you suffer the damage and lose momentum

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it fits rain world super well because you're always trying to anticipate what a predator might do

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:54 PM

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oh that does sound good

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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and forces you to learn how different creatures attack

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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i think a distraction works better then

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just stop one enemy from attacking for a turn?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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yeah

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on a successful allure roll anyway

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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ofc

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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but it'd have advantage because spell

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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wait spells have advantage

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:56 PM

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no

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you just get advantage since you're already spending blessings on a spell

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 10:56 PM

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oh right

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can you just use blessings to give advantage?

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actually mroe important question

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how should the distraction work

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like what would be the explanation for what it does

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is it just a distraction or does monk mess with their mind somehow

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 10:59 PM

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i think it should be an illusion of some kind

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like the monk conjures this holographic fruit or prey or something

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:00 PM

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ok that works

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what do we call it

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:00 PM

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hmmm

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bait apparition

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in fact i think the monk should get 2 spells tbh

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:01 PM

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each subclass would give another spell

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:01 PM

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since i think with the more general adaptations, some would have 2 or 3 spells

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:01 PM

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one combat based and one support based

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along with a benefit for each of them

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like combat based could get +3 blessings while support could get something like -1 blessings used on spells that cost over 4

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:03 PM

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ooo i like it

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especially since people could homebrew their own adaptations

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meaning more spells

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:03 PM

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how much should the allure check be

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2d6 + Will?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:06 PM

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yeah that works!

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you mean 2d8 right

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:07 PM

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oh right

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yeah i get the damage and general rolls confused

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:07 PM

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ye it's fine

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once the full rules are done you'll know

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:07 PM

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anyways adaptation

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i say one for dealing damage

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the other could heal instead

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:08 PM

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oo sure

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although maybe just protecting from damage in general as well

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since we don't want many healing spells

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recovery dice are already a thing

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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maybe only monk has healing spells

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and when do you use recovery dice

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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oh i like that

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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anytime or just resting

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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regal mulch and when do you use recovery dice

any time you're out of battle

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but you only have a certain amount

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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yeah

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i say monk should have a healing spell

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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yeah

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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and what dice are used for recovery dice

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d6 i assume

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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1d6

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maybe +2 or +3

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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maybe monk could allow you to revive a party member if they reach 0 hp?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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ooo that's good

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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yeah

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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wait so what are the monk's 2 adaptations

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new spells and more blessings?

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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yeah

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one for combat the other for supporting

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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yeah that works

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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i say combat gets more blessings while supporting gets a cost reduction

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one spell for each?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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sure!

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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so how much damage should monks exclusive combat spell deal

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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maybe a spear

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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i say make it deal slightly less damage than the normal one but its cheaper

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like uh

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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orrr

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OH FUN IDEA

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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a normal one would be 3d6 for a cost of 3

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yeah?

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while monks is 2d6 + 2 for a cost of 2

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:13 PM

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2d4 instead of 2d6

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or maybe 2d4+2 or something

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:13 PM

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for spear damage?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:13 PM

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no for the monk combat spell

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:13 PM

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oh

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2d4 + 4?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:14 PM

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nah 2d4+2

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:14 PM

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then its weaker than a spear

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:14 PM

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2d4+2 is fun statistically here because it's always less than 2d6 but on average is more consistent

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that's the upside

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:14 PM

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true

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:14 PM

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you're way more likely to get 8s and 9s

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:14 PM

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maybe the normal one anyone can use can cost 3 blessings but deal 2d6 + 2

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:14 PM

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and your lowest damage is a 4

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:14 PM

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yeah

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so basically you get a more consistent version of a spear thats also cheaper than the normal combat spell

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sounds good

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wont you need to retrieve spears from a creature during combat

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that should probably be a check

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2d8 + Finesse maybe

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@hushed bane how does that sound

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:33 PM

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hi again!

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power went out

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my pc's just turning back on tho

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@regal mulch

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:35 PM

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regal mulch that should probably be a check

yeah that's a finesse check

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:38 PM

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oh hi

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uh

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:38 PM

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I'll get to editing it in a sec

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:38 PM

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how should monk heal/revive work

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:38 PM

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hmm

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perhaps you just double recovery dice instead of reviving?

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or you place a shield on someone that, if they die, it activates and they don't lose anything

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thing is it has to be done before combat

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and only lasts for one cycle

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so you're basically betting on whether they die or not

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:40 PM

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i think maybe for 3 blessings, you can heal a teammate or yourself for 1d4 + a substat, and revive them for 3x the cost (reduced to 7 by the -2 on spells that cost more than 7 blessings)

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:41 PM

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oooo

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that can work

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:41 PM

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what would the substat be

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:41 PM

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still, I think the revival shield would be fun

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:41 PM

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i dont want to say will as you probably have high will anyways

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:41 PM

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hmm

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knowledge

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:41 PM

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that makes sense

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knowledge of the type of wound

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so knowledge is for healing, will is for damage, and allure is for deciet?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:44 PM

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YES

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I like this

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:45 PM

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changing the +2 in karmic spear to will then

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so its 2d4 + Will instead of 2d4 + 2

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which is the same by default by allows you increase your damage by 1

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@dark rain

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:49 PM

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WHAT THE FUCKL

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:49 PM

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YOO

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:49 PM

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what

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:49 PM

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hi

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:50 PM

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judge it emerald

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c5WbbZYUDzZ_yfAJqQ2Gskch1G8dmAk-PIw-C1xDUV8/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Spears & Slugcats - A Rain World TTRPG

Overview TBA Basic Rules TBA Combat & Encounters TBA Creating your Character TBA Races SLUGCATS TEMPLATE [Image] [Descripton] Innate Stats: When creating a character with this race, alter the stats as follows: KARMA stats Substats The [guy] has [x] Required food pips and [x] Reserve food pips....

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judge it

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:50 PM

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whers the charactger sheet

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:50 PM

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havent made one yet

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:50 PM

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o

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thats how i usually figure out how a system works

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:51 PM

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yeah it's sorta unfinished

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(very unfinished)

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:51 PM

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cause idk what the core mechanic is lol

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diceless, d20, dice pool, etc

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:51 PM

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so it's Very similar to D&D with a few major differences

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instead of a d20 you roll 2d8s

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:52 PM

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why is that

lofty venture Jun 23, 2022, 11:52 PM

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A lot less functions

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:52 PM

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so far weve used d8s, d6s, and d4s

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and its because of the averages

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and modifiers only go from -3 to +3

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so they wouldnt matter much on a d20 compared to 2d8s

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:53 PM

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dark rain why is that

because of how averages work kinda
i wanted something where you're never prone to absolutely dominating in one stat and succeeding every time
and there's room for partial success in which things go Sorta right but not as you've planned either

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:53 PM

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id suggest using 2d6 if the range is that small

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:53 PM

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i originally did

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but the modifiers made too big of a difference

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:54 PM

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the only modifier i can think of that will be a massive difference is a vulture mask when we add that

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:54 PM

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it's a small range but it does affect things pretty hard

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:54 PM

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probably gonna be +5 intimidation but -5 taming

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or something like that

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:54 PM

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i mean we could even go to 2d10 and change the modifiers but eh

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i like what we have now

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:54 PM

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same

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:54 PM

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definitely gonna run a bunch of tests though

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to see whether 2d8 is the sweet spot

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:55 PM

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anyways

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monk healing/damage prevention/death prevention

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how are we doing it

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:55 PM

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or you place a shield on someone that, if they die, it activates and they don't lose anything
thing is it has to be done before combat
and only lasts for one cycle
so you're basically betting on whether they die or not

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i think this is fun

lofty venture Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM

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Smells like Monk is basically the Bard.

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM

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monk is not the bard

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM

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i mean the monk can spec into healing but you don't have to

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM

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they are the spellcaster

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM

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so -3 to +3, 2dsomething, failure, partial success, success

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM

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ye

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM

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they are either combat or support focused

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 PM

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have you read dungeon world/apocalypse world?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:57 PM

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nope, although i did snag the idea of having 2d6 for actions from savage worlds

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(before changing it to 2d8s)

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:57 PM

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they use -3 to +3 and 2d6

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:57 PM

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ooo

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i mean if 2d6 works for them then sure!

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:57 PM

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with 6- being a failure, 7-9 being a partial success, and 10+ being a full success

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:57 PM

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ah

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i might do that then

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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ive found that 2d10 works fairly well for a range of +0 to +10 for mods

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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i would prefer to stay 2d8 rn

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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i think 2d6

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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either works tbh

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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we can just adjust the value range

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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ye

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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what should the chance of failure be

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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since if dungeon world works with it i see no reason to stray from something that's been tested

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:59 PM

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about 50%?

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:59 PM

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oh part of me wants to change how combat works since i kinda just yeeted it from the jojo ttrpg with little alterations
but it's so damn GOOD and it feels like any change would just snuff out the magic

dark rain Jun 23, 2022, 11:59 PM

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failure in binary success/failure games should be from 60/40 to 70/30 imo

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:59 PM

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we we have partial

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:59 PM

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yeah

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:59 PM

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so im thinking

hushed bane Jun 23, 2022, 11:59 PM

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since rain world's all about wacky AI stuff

regal mulch Jun 23, 2022, 11:59 PM

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30/30/40

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success, partial, failure

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:00 AM

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yeah failure should defo be higher

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:00 AM

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thats about the range for pbta systems

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:00 AM

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ah

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:00 AM

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though

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let me do some stats

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and by that i mean use anydice

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they do 40/40/20
failure/partial/success

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:01 AM

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that would also work

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but be a bit offset by the fact that the highest is a 19

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but the highest without modifiers is a 16

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:01 AM

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dark rain and by that i mean use anydice

samee

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:02 AM

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regal mulch but be a bit offset by the fact that the highest is a 19

plus that's just base modifiers

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then there's stuff like spells and abilities that stack

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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i say that 14+ should be a success

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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for 2d8 your ranges would prob be 7-/8-11/12+

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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i think 13+ instead of 12+

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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works

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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succeding shouldnt happen more than like 25% of the time by default

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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yeah im tempted to go 13+ because rain world should be Evil

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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rewards having high mods

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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and not more than 40% of the time at max

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13+ imo

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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dark rain rewards having high mods

yeah this

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the idea is that with some strategy you can get a lot of stacking modifiers

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you just gotta know what traits to use at the best times

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:04 AM

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2-9 is a fail, 10-13 is a partial success, 13+ is a success

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:04 AM

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so you got a ttrpg that feels like you're a little creature trying to craft a way out of danger
Rainworld-ish

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:04 AM

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or maybe even like

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2-9, 10-14, 14+

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:05 AM

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2-9 gives you a 50% failure rate

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:05 AM

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also the stakes are lowered since permadeath isnt a thing

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:05 AM

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which is a bit extreme

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:05 AM

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14, 15 , 16 is already about a 20% chance (as its 2-15)

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oh right

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2-8, 8-14, 14+

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:05 AM

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2-8 would work since that drops it to 40%

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:06 AM

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no isnt 2-8 a 46% failure rate

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as theres 15 values possible

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wait im calculating wrong

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let me do this again

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:07 AM

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hushed bane also the stakes are lowered since permadeath isnt a thing

it's a little weird for a TTRPG but rain world's lore is that everything revives
so the idea is that dying respawns you in the room before the one you died in, but causes:

you to lose all your items
you to lose any hunger pips gained curing the cycle
possibly rolling on a roll table of permanent body injuries? (i mean they can be healed ofc but they persist between revives)
whole group's shared karma goes down by 1

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:07 AM

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Living in a cycle

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:08 AM

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so death is less "start over, your character's Gone" and more "oh shit, we can't get to the next gate, i've gotta get all my food back, no more items, AND i've lost my damn eyes now"

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:08 AM

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The endgame task is still to go to 5p and ascend, right?

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:08 AM

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idk, just think permadeath wouldnt fit lore-wise, even if it's a good mechanic for stakes

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:09 AM

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lofty venture The endgame task is still to go to 5p and ascend, right?

depends on the campaign

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:09 AM

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Ah

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:09 AM

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for example the test one im doing with a friend is on a completely new continent

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:09 AM

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~44%/~41%/~16% chance

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mathed it out

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:09 AM

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ideally for a tabletop rpg you would want the objectives to be flexible

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:09 AM

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where the endgame goal is to go through a crazy iterator's can, reactivate her old void pumps and ascend
as well as resolve the other iterators' petty drama

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:10 AM

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fail, partial, success

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going off anydices numbers for 2d8

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with 2-8, 9-12, 13-16

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:10 AM

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ideally you wanna be telling a completely new story set in rain world's setting rather than retell everything

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i mean you Could do the latter and have a new game+ type campaign but that'd be bland story-wise as everyone knows what to expect

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:11 AM

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44% failure rate seems about right

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:11 AM

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regal mulch with 2-8, 9-12, 13-16

id say that works!

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:11 AM

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yeah

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:11 AM

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regal mulch 44% failure rate seems about right

yeah, quite large but still manageable

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:11 AM

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you have to factor in that its not d15 + 1 but 2d6

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let me do it again but with a +1, +2, and +3

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:12 AM

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you're safe to take a fairly gameist attitude to design since the setting is more adapted to exploration gameplay

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:13 AM

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mhm

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is permanent injuries good?

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part of me things just optional but now that i think about it

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:13 AM

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depends

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:14 AM

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having the slugcats have scars and cool combat injuries would be really fun story-wise and fit rain world's themes very well

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but ofc it's like

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:14 AM

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I use them as an alternative to character death because I don't like killing characters

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:14 AM

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Losing an eye would definitely be a hit to perception

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:14 AM

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dark rain I use them as an alternative to character death because I don't like killing cha...

yeah that's what this is

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death doesn't exist because void karma resurrection lore shenanigans so instead there's permanent injuries

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:14 AM

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but I allow them to be fixed for a price

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capitalism

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:15 AM

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now i want an arc where they have to find an iterator who grants one of the slugcats a robot arm if they can round up their neuron flies or whatever

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:15 AM

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dark rain but I allow them to be fixed for a price

Lawful evil behavior

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:15 AM

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dark rain capitalism

the industrial revolution and it's consequences have been a disaster for the slugcat race

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:15 AM

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if you want players to hate the bbeg then steal their money

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:16 AM

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even worse

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:16 AM

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hushed bane the industrial revolution and it's consequences have been a disaster for the slu...

how will the slugcat population recover

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:16 AM

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my BBEG in an amphibia themed campaign kicked their pet opabinia (cute sea shrimp puppy baby)

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Just make them kick puppies and attack their pets

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:16 AM

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works

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:17 AM

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We get a John Wick plot.

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:17 AM

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if i ever run a campaign here with this TTRPG the BBEG is gonna be this five pebbles/GLaDOS-type iterator who's extremely petty

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:17 AM

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As they already are

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:18 AM

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i mean it depends on the iterator

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moon and NSH are chill

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in fact i think five pebbles was the one asshole

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WAIT NO

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unparalleled innocence did expose five pebbles and get him Cancelled on iterator-twitter for his rot infection

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twitterator

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fuck i shouldve said that first

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in fact no that wouldn't have made sense grammatically

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I'll use it next time

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:19 AM

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using 0-8, 9-12, 13-19
+0 ~44%/~41%/~16%
+1 ~33%/~42%/~22%
+2 ~22%/~42%/~33%
+3 ~16%/~41%/~44%

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:20 AM

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ooo

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this works!

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so +3 is a huge deal

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:20 AM

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i feel like the max success is a tiny bit too high

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:20 AM

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idk do we wanna make the margin for failing bigger?

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yeah

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:20 AM

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hm

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2d8 - 1

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would that work

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:20 AM

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nah we wanna keep it to 2d8s

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pure and simple

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too many modifiers and people get confused

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:21 AM

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yeah

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i think maybe we could reduce the number of increases you get?

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 AM

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i mean looking at the slugcat race traits we already have

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 AM

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if you want the freedom to make some tasks more difficult you could use a sliding difficulty

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 AM

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a lot of them give modifiers

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 AM

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in which case partial successes don't really work out

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 AM

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Monk should have higher success rate for some things.

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 AM

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but that's also an option

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 AM

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i mean

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partial success feels sort of nebulous anyway,

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 AM

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depends

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:23 AM

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i think it'd help to define it

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:23 AM

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Change them for specific classes? Survivor being the unchanged?

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:23 AM

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i think difficulty of tasks could be decided by the task

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:23 AM

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if your mechanics are pretty explicit about what partial successes mean, like dungeon world, then it works just fine

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:23 AM

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like

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:23 AM

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like if you're throwing a spear at a lizard
success - hits and you stab the lizard
fail - misses, spear is in the wall
Partial Success - only grazes the lizard?

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in fact yeah this isn't that explicit

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:23 AM

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you could set the bar for successes at like

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14 for something

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:24 AM

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DW has a set of "Moves" that characters can perform

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:24 AM

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then make 10-14 a partial successes

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and below that a fail

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but another task could be

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8 to succeded

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4-8 to partially succeded

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below 4 to fail

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:24 AM

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i mean what we want ideally

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:24 AM

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I like that one, but what do you want, Fizzy?

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:24 AM

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maybe just let the DM decide if its a success, partial success, or failure

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:24 AM

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and all actions are slotted into one of these moves by the GM

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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dark rain and all actions are slotted into one of these moves by the GM

here actions are more like D&D where things are kind of loose?

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like it's more RP focused

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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so the meaning of each type of outcome is well defined

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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regal mulch maybe just let the DM decide if its a success, partial success, or failure

Ya, I usually go with my gut while still having a standard.

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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then a binary success/failure system might work better

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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yeah

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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even combat since i mostly just lifted the combat mechanics from The JoJo TTRPG which intends to have way more RP-heavy combat

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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i say let the DM decide how well you succeded

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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yeahh

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 AM

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dont have very binary values

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just let the DM decide (ideally they dont tell you what you need to succeed though)

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:27 AM

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if you're familiar with d&d 3rd-5th editions they use this system

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:27 AM

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you only need a set value for stuff like saves

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:27 AM

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dark rain then a binary success/failure system might work better

yeah it does, seeing as:
looking at the race traits so far, there's a lot of abilities that let you tweak and modify specific modifiers at will
like survivor has the whole survival instinct power
the margin of failure should be usually higher than the margin of success so it's less like you're banking on a lucky win but instead trying to manipulate your outcome into something that won't fail, because without a good set of modifiers things are gonna go off the rails quickly

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idk, mechanically it feels more like the vibe of rainworld

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:28 AM

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i think we should still go with the partial success stuff

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let the dm say that say

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it grazes and does lower damage

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:28 AM

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yeah, i'd just do it 5e style

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:28 AM

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yeah

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except for saves

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:28 AM

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ofc

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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yeah so you roll uh

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chance to hit then the damage right

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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Nope

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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5e explicitly avoids partial successes

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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or do spears always hit

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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WELL

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sorta

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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dark rain 5e explicitly avoids partial successes

i think it still works here

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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let me pull up the rules i Borrowed

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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I would recommend avoiding GM fiat in basic rulings

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yes the GM sets the difficulty

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they could also set a range for partial successes

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but then you need to define what partial successes mean in certain scenarios

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and then you have less freeform options

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:30 AM

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i think its fine if the dm decides that

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partial success

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because it depends and we cant account for every scenario

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+its more interesting than a binary fail/succeed

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:31 AM

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this is why DW uses moves that most player actions fit into

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that do account for every scenario

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:31 AM

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well i mean combat wise you have uh

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spear

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explosive

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and maybe some homebrew stuff

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and you throw it or stab it

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and explosive you throw it (or dont if youre crazy)

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:32 AM

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hushed bane let me pull up the rules i Borrowed

basically how combat works is:
you roll to hit, and the enemy creature rolls at the same time to react and contest it
if the reaction fails, the attack proceeds as normal (and you get 1 momentum which is used for cool prediction stuff later)
if the reaction succeeds, the attack is countered and the enemy gets to immediately try and attack back in retaliation
if both succeed, you cancel each other out

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:32 AM

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because having to decide what a partial success means with no guide for every scenario results in inconsistency and a lot of mental bandwidth being taken up that could be used elsewhere

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:32 AM

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if both fail then both actions dont work either

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:32 AM

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dark rain because having to decide what a partial success means with no guide for every sc...

Yeah this

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i think we should go binary

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:32 AM

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binary for combat but none they biney for out of combat

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:33 AM

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most GMs won't have you fail outright even with binary systems anyways

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you usually get a chance to get back on your feet

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"failing forward"

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:33 AM

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yeah

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:33 AM

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disco elysium is a great demonstration of that principle in video game format

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:33 AM

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there's no catastrophically bad fails unless the stakes are high

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or unless you're me in 2020 when one of my players asked to roll to take a shower? so i said yes because thats dumb and i love it and they rolled a 1 so they got shampoo in their eyes and had a permanent disadvantage to perception checks the whole session

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:34 AM

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hushed bane basically how combat works is: you roll to hit, and the enemy creature rolls at ...

this is exceptionally complicated for just making an attack roll

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:34 AM

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I MEANT PERMANENT DISADVANTAGE AS A JOKE

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:34 AM

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That's funny 😂

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:35 AM

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"roll to tie shoelaces"

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:35 AM

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dark rain this is exceptionally complicated for just making an attack roll

eh, i feel like eventually there's a flow to it

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:35 AM

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hushed bane I MEANT PERMANENT DISADVANTAGE AS A JOKE

BUT THEY JUST ROLLED WITH IT

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:35 AM

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I had a GM once that unironically had me roll to step out of a carriage

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:35 AM

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dark rain "roll to tie shoelaces"

"You rolled a 1 and tied your finger into it, trying to stand up, you fall flat on your face. Make a constitution check."

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:35 AM

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dark rain I had a GM once that unironically had me roll to step out of a carriage

that's painful

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in my experience as a forever DM, a lot of new players assume that everything has to be rolled for

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i've had people ask if they have to roll to walk

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im like Dude

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do you trip over on a 1?? do you start naruto running on a nat 20?

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:36 AM

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they were kind of a twat and railroaded us so I took over their campaign, kicked out the two asshole players, and ran a full 5e campaign as a reboot after that

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:37 AM

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that's rad i love it

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:37 AM

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which I'm currently running the post apocalyptic sequel to

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:37 AM

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ooo

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:37 AM

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hushed bane in my experience as a forever DM, a lot of new players assume that everything ha...

Me when I was a baker in a zombie apocalypse and grabbed my giant fucking machete from under the counter, thinking the DM was gonna make me roll for clumsiness making noise to alert the already alerted zombs.

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:37 AM

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dark rain this is exceptionally complicated for just making an attack roll

i've played the jojo ttrpg thingy before and it flows quite well

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i can link the doc if you wanna take a look through

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:37 AM

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nah it's good

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:38 AM

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granted i dont know too much about jojo and got roped into it

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:38 AM

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since you're the one probably running this you should use what you like

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:38 AM

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yeah

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i'll test it out anyway

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:38 AM

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I prefer to cut it down to as few rolls as possible

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:38 AM

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i have a campaign for this planned for a few people in my regular D&D group thingy that im gonna use as my guinea pigs

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:38 AM

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nice

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wait

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you got d&d people to agree to play something that isn't d&d

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:39 AM

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well thing is

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I'm their DM

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:39 AM

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I know

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:39 AM

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and i tend to make extremely wacky homebrew

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:39 AM

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it's still impressive

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:39 AM

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to the point where some games have strayed so far from D&D that it's like a new thing

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:39 AM

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It smells like your manager not asking you to get the mail, but an order.

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:40 AM

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dark rain it's still impressive

they mostly agree to whatever as long as (if it's based on a pre-existing game / franchise) they're familiar with it

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:40 AM

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nice

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:40 AM

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like i ran a paper mario D&D once which was fun

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and currently im running an amphibia one

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which to be honest isn't too different

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i also ran a Minecraft D&D once which

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:40 AM

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uh oh

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:41 AM

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i have no idea how i pulled that off but my lil brother wanted it so i had to obey his whims

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:41 AM

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LOL

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:41 AM

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it was literally just regular D&D except i threw in an extra combat action where you can just Build

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and also just the minecraft dungeons loot stitched into it for good measure

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:42 AM

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the real minecraft dungeons was in our imagination all along

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:42 AM

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sorry i went for a second

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:42 AM

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hi

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:42 AM

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truly

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:42 AM

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did we decide how success and failure is gonna work

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:42 AM

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uhhh

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we talked about minecraft

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:43 AM

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if I am to make a decision I think a binary system would be optimal for the type of game you're trying to run

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I wouldn't discount the PBTA style though

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even if it takes some getting used to

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:43 AM

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id just go binary at this point

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:44 AM

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I prefer binary too

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since it's fairly intuitive and doesn't take up any energy for me

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:44 AM

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i WILL look into PBTA though because it does look rad

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:44 AM

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which is good

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because I'm lazy as shit

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:44 AM

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Same

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i mean sort of

lofty venture Jun 24, 2022, 12:44 AM

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slugnom

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:44 AM

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I refuse to run 5e it has too many mechanics and I can't be bothered

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I have to roll dice

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I hate doing that

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that's what my players are for

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:45 AM

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im always lazy except for when my hyperfixation kicks into high gear and i wake up in a dazed state as i look at a google doc filled with Everything

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:45 AM

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oh yeah use a player-facing system it'll change ur life

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:46 AM

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i still think what i said is the best option

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binary in combat

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outside of that its more loose

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and wdym

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:46 AM

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players make all the rolls

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so if they attack they roll to attack

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if theyre attacked they roll to dodge

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etc

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:46 AM

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does this count actions from creatures

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:46 AM

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yeah

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if a creature attacks

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players roll to dodge it

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instead of the GM rolling

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:47 AM

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ah

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:47 AM

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i think a combination would be good

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have the dm roll the creatures like

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accuratcy

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:47 AM

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I find that it keeps players more engaged

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:47 AM

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then players roll to dodge

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:47 AM

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i mean i could try and mangle the combat system im using into that

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:47 AM

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though with ur combat system that might not work

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:47 AM

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dark rain I find that it keeps players more engaged

i mean the combat system im using rn is like

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:48 AM

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and make the creatures accuracy a more tight than the player

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:48 AM

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a creature attacks and you can just immediately roll to block / dodge / parry / whatever

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like if a lizard swipes you you can instantly just roll to counter

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:48 AM

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so instead of a 1d10 its a 1d4 + 6 on a lizard compared to player

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just for example

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:49 AM

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and the jojo combat system is so good at building tension and stuff

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:49 AM

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can you explain how block dodge parry woudl work

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:49 AM

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it's like this back and forth between player and the creature and you're building up momentum

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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I'm guessing this uses an initiative system

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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with like turn order?

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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yeah

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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from the combat system i'm seeing

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it doesn't really look like that

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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o

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poggers

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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it feels more designed for a clash between 2 specific parties

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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I love systems that don't use initiative

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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and a lot more Loose

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:50 AM

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what if theres a 3rd party

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like a vulture joining a fight with a lizard

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:51 AM

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ill read about that

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:51 AM

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I've run combats with 15 combatants and initiative wasn't necessary

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:51 AM

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but im pretty sure it's built for that

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:51 AM

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maybe let like

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the party decide the order

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im gonna off xcom here

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:52 AM

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you can just run the combat like you would non-combats

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where it's a call and response kind of thing

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:52 AM

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each team gets to have everyone take their actions in any order

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then the other team takes the turn

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:52 AM

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if you have a more tactical combat system with cover and such like with the XCOM games then initiative is a good idea

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:52 AM

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let the team who initiated combat be the first turn

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:52 AM

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regal mulch can you explain how block dodge parry woudl work

so
lizard attacks a slugcat, rolls to hit
slugcat can immediately roll to dodge (can be block or parry, whatever the player wants to RP with)
if the hit succeeds and dodge doesn't - lizard hits, slugcat loses 1 momentum
hit fails and dodge succeeds? slugcat dodges, gains 1 momentum
if both fail / succeed? nothing?

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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otherwise it's kinda meh

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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im going off the turn order

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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the thing is how this combat works is less of a rigid encounter and more based on how close a predator is, who's engaging the combat, etc

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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chimera squad uses initiative

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the others dont

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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like if a lizard goes for one slugcat, the rest of the party isn't automatically thrown into the fight like an rpg encounter

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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team 1 takes their actions then team 2 etc

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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I'm just taking about turn-based combat

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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ye

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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oh that also works fizzy

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:54 AM

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OH YEAH THE BEST FEATURE OF THIS COMBAT SYSTEM

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MOMENTUM

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:54 AM

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which isn't necessary if you don't have a lot of tactical depth to your mechanics

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:54 AM

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it's genius and the sole reason why i chose it

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:54 AM

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i feel like you would need to have lizards hunt in packs

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otherwise players are far too overpowered

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:54 AM

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4e dnd needs initiative while 5e can actually work pretty well without it

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:55 AM

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regal mulch i feel like you would need to have lizards hunt in packs

they might be able to lure lizards out of the pack and such

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if the players set themselves up for an easy combat then that's what they should get

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:56 AM

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yeah thats fine

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they can try to seperate them, fight them all at once, sneak by, etc

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combat shouldnt be a binary yes or no state

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:57 AM

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which is why turn based combat isn't really necessary

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makes the delineation between combat and noncombat more blurry and easier to switch between

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:57 AM

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hushed bane it's **genius** and the sole reason why i chose it

basically basically
you start with 0 momentum
momentum can go from -3 to 3
if you succeed an attack / dodge, you gain 1 momentum
if you fail an attack / dodge, you lose 1 momentum
if you have 0 momentum you can't do any special moves
But
if you have positive momentum, you can spend one to make a Prediction
you announce what stat the enemy is going to use on their turn and if it's correct, you automatically dodge/block in response, no need for a roll
if you have negative momentum, this isn't a bad thing - you can Feint
if you miss an attack or fail a dodge, you can instead increase your momentum by 1 and immediately make a new action
but it HAS to use a different stat
if you dodged with agility, you can't use agility - you gotta maybe block with resistance or throw a spear with muscle
forces you to exit your comfort zone
it's so 👌

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:57 AM

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yeah i dont think turn based combat fits this

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:57 AM

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which is good if you aren't wargaming

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:58 AM

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dark rain makes the delineation between combat and noncombat more blurry and easier to swi...

yeah that's what the jojo ttrpg excels at

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it's very RP heavy

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 12:58 AM

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I lvoe weird simple combat mechanics

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:58 AM

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and THEN

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here's the best part about momentum

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:58 AM

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so basically you can fail a roll and if you have negative momentumn you can continue attacking with another damage type?

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:59 AM

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yeah!

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so it's a good recovery tactic but you can't keep spamming the same dodge

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which means stat dumping isn't a good strategy in the first place

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 12:59 AM

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might be a bit too strong for this so we might want to tweak it

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 12:59 AM

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eh, i think it'll work

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since there's only so much you can do

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 1:00 AM

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and you can actually communicate lizard aggresion if it isnt turn based

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change it so like

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 1:00 AM

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like even if you succeed a feint every single time, you eventually run out of stats to use

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 1:00 AM

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"greens will attack every 5 or so actions"

hushed bane Jun 24, 2022, 1:00 AM

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eh i think that shouldn't be written / set in stone

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 1:00 AM

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"reds will attack almost every action"

dark rain Jun 24, 2022, 1:00 AM

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or just have them attack when it makes sense

regal mulch Jun 24, 2022, 1:00 AM

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make it a range

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yeah that too

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