rw ttrpg thread

[warped ice]

neither did i until i joined these since fizzy fucking forced me to lmao

[magic oasis]

our group mostly does in person sessions

and yes i'm gonna flex that on you

when we did online sessions, it was literally just

join a discord VC

DM uses MS paint for the map

little baby man

[warped ice]

the squad

[magic oasis]

sssssssssssssssssssquad

[warped ice]

fr

[magic oasis]

GG

i think my character would probably try to befriend as many creatures as possible for the express purpose of having bodyguards

cause i think that sounds funny

[warped ice]

based tbh

[magic oasis]

[warped ice]

drop a nightcat salute in chat for the squad

[magic oasis]

i shall befriend the lizarbs

my lizzy army shall conquer the world

[warped ice]

ngl playing a scavenger could be fun...

[regal mulch]

I love how 3 was mine and then Star stole them from me because I was too focused on keeping everyone as a whole alive. Lol

Saint Paladin go brrrr

[magic oasis]

the queen of blades?

[warped ice]

ye i think? idk

[magic oasis]

a rainbow of lizards

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/691646709746368522/1007982612586975292/yellow2.gif

[warped ice]

the squad

[magic oasis]

orange disease

https://tenor.com/view/low-intelligence-specimen-aarav-cat-gato-not-perro-gif-25462194

[warped ice]

the entire party summarised

[magic oasis]

monk may be good for a beastmaster build

[regal mulch]

host would be pretty good for beastmaster

[magic oasis]

yeah, though i wouldn't like to deal with the rotlings

tanky monk that uses their friends like minions, keeping them alive with spells

[regal mulch]

I plan on a homebrew that's purpose is beastmaster. Haven't had the time to figure out what the balance should be yet. I have some neat ideas tho.

Basically Host, but less rot and more saint-like.

[magic oasis]

i'd dig it

superbuffing a single friendly scavenger until it can kill god

[regal mulch]

Wasn't my thought process with it, but it's a good idea for the second species adaptation since I couldn't figure out what to do with it.

[magic oasis]

@regal mulch i think that'd be kind of uh
really absurdly powerful

even if it's once a cycle

Abilities that allow you to manipulate luck are very strong

for monk, an ability like that would help them specialize in what they want

by the way i hear a frog outside

[warped ice]

FROG

observe it.

[magic oasis]

i already did earlier today

@warped ice picture i took of it a long while ago

[magic oasis]

that frog is fake

@terse lynx spoilers do come up

@regal mulch ye

they can craft more than food in downpour

gourmand can craft lanterns and flashbangs

Artificer should be able to make explosives innately

[magic oasis]

mmm

monk(ey)

[regal mulch]

need ideas for what to do with blessings

[magic oasis]

describe how they are right now in text

[regal mulch]

used to cast rites (spells)

[warped ice]

me thinking up wacky ideas of how to differentiate iterators from slugcats in hypothetical homebrew playable version
my only idea is
take the fact that the one iterator we fought had a ton of health
and apply that to the playable species but a little further, like no recovery dice or healing at shelters but can be healed with scrap metal n stuff? so generally they're more tanky than a slugcat of course but get worn down overtime and the damage taken is more permanent to deal with
that just applies to all player character iterators regardless of anything else about them

this probably sucks because im just spitballing a random idea i had while getting water but thought id drop it in ig??? idk i need to sleep

[magic oasis]

i think the lack of the amount of rites (at least from what i can see in the doc) does limit how much blessings can be used

[regal mulch]

they had more combat stuff previously

but we decided only spellcasters should get that

but overall we seem to agree that we should just get rid of spellcasting except for spellcasters entirely

but that means that they have no use for non spellcasters so we want one

[magic oasis]

for the system that rolls to hit, blessings could very much be used as little boosts to that accuracy

for the one that doesn't need any rolls to hit (everything always hits), it could be used to allow for melee fighters to boost their damage momentarily

like barbarian rage

The battle masters idea I think is also pretty good

[regal mulch]

i like that idea

battle master idea i dont like because like

just let them do that normally

[magic oasis]

the super advanced ones, or being able to expend blessings to do complicated maneuvers more easily

Like, whiplash, downspear might require finesse to do in order to pin a creature to the ground (need to be accurate)

But if you expend blessings, then you can guarantee that the maneuver lands

Basically the melee slug's "spells" so to speak

[regal mulch]

idk i dont want to restrict that

feels wrong

[magic oasis]

it's not restricting people from doing the maneuvers normally

They can try to do that advanced stuff, but have to roll for if they succeed unless they use those blessings

[regal mulch]

i think just a add to roll would work better then

[magic oasis]

aye, fair enough

it's your ruleset

[regal mulch]

if you do have any ideas share them

[magic oasis]

maybe just ones for spells that totally won't just be stolen ideas from the PHB

[regal mulch]

i mean we might add some to adaptations

[magic oasis]

i think having rites/adaptations better suited to kinda enable different overall playstyles would be good additions

overall upgrades are nice, but making them more specialized or even have some drawbacks associated with either side could help make either path more nuanced and different

[regal mulch]

since everyone seems to want to play

i think we should start doing weekly(?) sessions hosted by someone (probably me) and just have a like

3 usual people + 1 or 2 people we pick randomly

Have a few usual people who we rotate out as they're available. That way we have consistent people testing/leading stuff, but we're also giving everyone a chance to play.

yeah

i think having a few usuals still is a good idea

i think maybe you and fizzy since the 3 of us seem to be the main people working on it

then just pick 2 people randomly from a list

I'm semi consistently available too which helps.

I wish I could help build on this more, but it's been so hard juggling life with work rn.

its fine

everyone working on its been taking a bit of a break

[regal mulch]

also this is good for finding really niche broken stuff

[regal mulch]

actually i have a campaign style that could work for this

[warped ice]

may i volunteer for The Usuals™️???

[magic oasis]

i will become more busy than usual soon so i might not be usual

[craggy pulsar]

put me on the list©️

[magic oasis]

unusual, even

[verbal ferry]

i have spent like an hour looking at it

i now understand

so uh

i wanna make stats now :)

probably for coalescipedes and leeches and stuff

also rq question, are creatures with negatives in stats allowed?

also why do creatures only get stat buffs in general categories and not individual skills?

im so onfufsed alreay

im gonna probably do a spearmaster

Where do I put- traits?

there's no section for traits

only adaptations????

guh

a lot of the adapations seem a bit boring

for me anyways

though then again that's mostly because spearmaster has no mouth and therefore loses a ton of options

god the more and more i think about this the weaker spearmaster looks

i trade being able to use my mouth whatsoever

and abilities that other species might offer

for being able to generate weapons, at the cost of an entire action

when i could just, pick up a weapon

or regrab it

and also i have an unreliable method of eating

[regal mulch]

they cant all be really interesting

[regal mulch]

they could generate one as part of an attack

[verbal ferry]

it takes an action

im probably gonna do heightened senses

[magic oasis]

mork

[regal mulch]

i meant im gonna add that

[regal mulch]

should we allow people to imitate creature sounds by default

i wanna add that as an adaptation

[regal mulch]

just put them in adaptations for now

also you can still use the mouth adaps as spearmaster

just reflavor them

[verbal ferry]

ah okok

[magic oasis]

can't reflavor them

no mouth, no tongue

[verbal ferry]

flavor is fake

[regal mulch]

"there will be saint spearmaster allowed"

[magic oasis]

i think this'd be really nice for taming creatures

[regal mulch]

i was thinking about making it an adaptation though

[magic oasis]

like as an action you can try to imitate a creature's noise, and it takes allure/taming/intimidation depending on how you're using it

[regal mulch]

im just making it an adaptation

anyways to remind everyone everything we need to work on (for species)

• all of monk except downside
• both hunter adaps and the downside
• nightcat downside and one adap
• gourmand downside and crafting adap (maybe)
• all of saint except downside
• both host adaps

[verbal ferry]

mm

i feel like allowing spearmaster to mimic scavs would be funny

[regal mulch]

i mean they can

[verbal ferry]

yea

im probably not gonna do spearmaster though to be honest

[regal mulch]

thats the entire adap

[verbal ferry]

not being able to speak is pretty limiting

wait when did that get added

[regal mulch]

the imitator adap?

just now

[verbal ferry]

oh ok lol

[regal mulch]

you can still speak id allow it

[verbal ferry]

my other concern with spearmaster

is

we can make spears, yes

but if you already have spears to begin with

you might as well be playing something else

since your only real benefit is 'i can make weapons'

you can only have so many spears anyways

[regal mulch]

they have their own adaptations

[verbal ferry]

so why not just

[regal mulch]

remember

[verbal ferry]

carry spears

and yeah i guess

but having one of the main traits of a character be effectively useless is pretty crippling

especially when they're forced to get food exclusively by attacking

idk

im probably gonna do arti

[regal mulch]

idk ive personally seem a lot of use cases for them

[verbal ferry]

mmm right

i guess i haven't seen the system yet

another concern is

im worried it might cause murderhoboism

but

thats just me lol

also why are substats not impacted by main stats

[regal mulch]

theyre basically seperate

[verbal ferry]

mm ok

[regal mulch]

its just a thing for creature stats

main stats and substats are the same for creatures

[verbal ferry]

im gonna get some food

and then think more about character

maybe make some stats for coalescipedes or leeches or something lol

[regal mulch]

were reworking creature stats into modifiers soon

instead of DCs

if you wanna help there

or even better actually

just read over all the rules and see if anything needs to be clarified

[verbal ferry]

ooh

[regal mulch]

im gonna rewrite the combat rules soon so wait a little

im doing it today

[verbal ferry]

i was confused about action economy

but uh

fuck

guess no chracter now :(

lol

@regal mulch jetfish ramming does damage btw

[regal mulch]

how much

[verbal ferry]

a little

it can kill them sometimes

[regal mulch]

its pretty loose

[verbal ferry]

yeah

jetfish occasionally kill eachother on accident

also neat detail

if you approach noodleflies and get close enough, it can sometimes force them to cancel their charge move

It works more consistently if their pokey thing hasn't turned black yet

also salamanders have the same behavior as whites when it comes to lurking

[regal mulch]

combat has been rewritten

[verbal ferry]

ombat

wombat aggrssion

[magic oasis]

nombat

[verbal ferry]

furry emoticon

[magic oasis]

[verbal ferry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958418404769943572/1008383465244348517/overseer_cursed.gif

flower

overseer flower

[magic oasis]

what are the stats on that

[verbal ferry]

it lets you see the entire map when eaten

(not an actual thing lol)

oh yeah lemme get

overseer stats for the thing

they have one hp.

uhhh. . .

[magic oasis]

i will munch one

[verbal ferry]

blindness

ok overseer's gonna have

12 hp.

[magic oasis]

i know just how to munch one too

you distract it by doing a funny dance

and then i sneak up behind it to grab it

[verbal ferry]

i think its kinda dumb that creatures get such high bonuses to stats

when slugcats get so little of ones

the fact a batfly can pretty easily overpower a slugcat in physical strength is kinda dumb

[regal mulch]

those are DCs

not stat bonuses

and we are changing to rolling

[verbal ferry]

ooh.

so wait

how is rollin gonna work

stat wise

[regal mulch]

point buy

its point buy

[verbal ferry]

yeah i know

i meant for creatures.

[regal mulch]

oh

currenty they dont roll

but theyre just gonna roll against the player when we finally add it

[verbal ferry]

oh

i guess you could use

horde ruling

[regal mulch]

time to uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

develop stuff

@hushed bane hey are you doing anything right now

[regal mulch]

should we add more character customization

[verbal ferry]

yeah probably

also i feel like the current adaptation for nightcat could use some work

my idea for another one might be just like

less strenuous camoflague

or the ability to guarantee where an attack lands

maybe nightcat could spec into magic?

that'd be cool

[regal mulch]

how should we do it

[verbal ferry]

mm

[regal mulch]

also night camo isnt that costly its one blue fruit every 2 actions

[verbal ferry]

i'd say maybe a few more rites

[verbal ferry]

i know

but it'd be cool to be able to camoflague long-term

unless actively in combat

[regal mulch]

rites and blessings are being reworked

[verbal ferry]

like sitting in one spot to scout out for enemies

[regal mulch]

1 food pip every time you move with it active

[verbal ferry]

mm ok

[regal mulch]

actually

sitting in place is fine already

[verbal ferry]

oh lol

[regal mulch]

you dont take any actions while sitting in place

[verbal ferry]

well

either way

we should probably also make adaptations for hunter

[regal mulch]

thats the plan

but on the blessing rite rework

i think we should remove rites from base slugcats

maybe move some to saint/monk

then some to adaptations

[verbal ferry]

yeah

i feel like nightcat and gourmand should keep them though

nightcat particularly needs a little something imo

[regal mulch]

yeah because theyre unfinished

[verbal ferry]

plus it'd fit with the 'methodical' theme

i feel like just

giving them rites as an adaptation

could be cool

[regal mulch]

well every slugcat can get adaptation rites

wait maybe we can have that as further customization

what rites you get

then the problem is what to give monk/saint again

[verbal ferry]

yeaah.

maybe we could give them exclusive rites or something

one idea i had was a spell that gives allies extra actions or something

kinda like rivulet

also i feel like there should be a cheap rite

[regal mulch]

i think the agreement was monk defense saint offense

[verbal ferry]

that you can use to just like

dump stuff into

if you have only one blessing

[regal mulch]

we had a 1 cost 2 damage rite that cant be resisted

[verbal ferry]

my idea is just like

add a little bit to a check

'karmic fluke'

or somethin

[regal mulch]

yeah could be nice

[verbal ferry]

that or maybe any roll

including damage

[regal mulch]

i think im going with rite customization idea though

[verbal ferry]

could be used on allies or something

then it could actually be worth something

just give em like

+3

wait wait

i just got a really cool idea for an adaptation

'forked tongue'

could be either in general or for saint

if it's an all character adaptation, you could use it to track things by smell

versus for saint

you effectively get two tongues

letting you potentially use yourself as an anchor to prevent creatures from moving

[magic oasis]

so you become a grapple worm

[regal mulch]

i had that idea too

[kind brook]

So many OCs

Hopefully there can be a session better timed for EU people too in the future.

[regal mulch]

which would be when

(obviously need ot know what time it is for you rn)

[verbal ferry]

yes

[verbal ferry]

another basic idea

'thick skull'

might let the player have a bit of extra hp

or maybe attacks from certain directions have a chance to do less damage

idk

[magic oasis]

helmet

[verbal ferry]

i feel like just having a thick skull

is a bit more flavor friendly

[magic oasis]

i mean, a helmet is basically what it can be equated to

[verbal ferry]

yeah

but you could say 'oh i have a helmet'

[magic oasis]

what about maybe that giving you a bash option?

[verbal ferry]

or you could just do thick skull

[verbal ferry]

maybe lol

[magic oasis]

thick skull allows you to #movement into enemies

[verbal ferry]

yes

[magic oasis]

however it will never be as good as gourmand

gourmand with thick skull though

wrecking ball build

[verbal ferry]

m

@regal mulch hey hey i just got an idea for a rite

maybe one that could be used to transfer blessings between players

might cost like

3 blessings

and give somebody else 2

[regal mulch]

were getting rid of rites in their current state

[verbal ferry]

oh

alright, fair.

what about the thick skull adaptation?

i feel like that might be kinda decent

on hunter or spearmaster or somethin

[regal mulch]

more health is already an adap

[verbal ferry]

mm

ok

well

for hunter

i feel like accuracy could be one

allowing for the individual to specifically choose where each spear lands if they roll high enough

[regal mulch]

you can already choose where the spear lands

or atleast attempt to

[verbal ferry]

maybe it could give advantage on a check like that

damn

im really out of good ideas arent i haha

[regal mulch]

i mean we still gotta work on hunter

i wanna do them first since spellcasting is gonna be a whole shitshow once we get to it

[verbal ferry]

yeah

another idea could be like

maybe melee shit

either with spears or just unarmed attacks

and for nightcat maybe they could get like

a blinding move or something

[regal mulch]

they have the flash though

[verbal ferry]

mm

maybe they could have the uh

illusion rite thing

and instea of it being a rite

they could do it for food

[regal mulch]

yeah maybe

since that could make good distractions

[verbal ferry]

anyways uh

for host

maybe they could get poison or somethin

actually-

i feel like that forked tongue ability could be really cool on hunter

since it'd go well with the whole, hunting thing.

[regal mulch]

whats that do again

[verbal ferry]

lets you smell stuff.

snakes have stereographic smelling

[regal mulch]

i mean you can smell already

[verbal ferry]

i mean with extra precision

could let you pinpoint stuff from really far away

or avoid dangerous rooms

and in addition you would have the ability to tell where a smell is coming from in actual directions

like left vs right

thats why snakes have a forked tongue

the two different points move air in different directions

causing them to go into two different sensory organs inside of the mouth

where they are then brought to the nose

allowing the snake to smell with precision

[regal mulch]

i feel like thats too niche for a species thing

[verbal ferry]

mm fair

maybe it could come with venom or something?

lol

[regal mulch]

that could work

[verbal ferry]

just fucking

snakeface

[regal mulch]

maybe slap that on nightcat

[verbal ferry]

lol

also i just got one for saint

imagine just giving them the equivalent of dnd vicious mockery

nah

maybe uhh

oh!

maybe they could distract enemies by yelling at them

leaving them more open to attacks

[regal mulch]

we had an adaptation like that before

we removed it because it felt like it was restricting things you could already do

[verbal ferry]

ooh.

[regal mulch]

wait i can move the imitator adap to nightcat

[verbal ferry]

yeah

well

saint is supposed to be offensive, right?

[regal mulch]

no

supportive

monk is defensive

[verbal ferry]

oooh

lol

[regal mulch]

ok nightcat just needs a new downside

[verbal ferry]

maybe uhh

worse in light?

[regal mulch]

well that kinda counteracts the bioluminescene adap

as its gonna make you worse in bright light

[verbal ferry]

oh lol

maybe bioluminescence should disable that then

wait

then you'd have no weakness

boowomp

[regal mulch]

yeah

or you could just add a thing like

"bright light caused by you does not trigger your weakness"

[verbal ferry]

yeah ok

that could work!

should i suggest that in the doc right now?

[regal mulch]

ill write it up myself in a second

[verbal ferry]

aight

[regal mulch]

did that

@regal mulch hi

we made nightcat anything you think should be changed

Can't read rn

Woek

damn

tell me when youre out of work then

Kk

2 hours

[regal mulch]

maybe we should let nightcat make creature sounds sound like theyre in a spot different from where it is

is that even possible

[magic oasis]

advanced acoustics

maybe it comes as a sort of innate understanding of how sound travels

I don't think it should work on creatures with superhearing though

like mole lizards

[regal mulch]

well itd be an attempt to decieve them vs the creatures perception

which they have advantage on when it relates to hearing

oh yeah right its called throwing your voice

Read

Seems kinda out of place.

I don't understand the purpose of mimicking sounds

theres a lot of uses

distracting creatures

scaring creatures

with the ability to throw your voice you could get creatures away too by making it seem like theres something somewhere else

So essentially fizzy 2 electric boogaloo without the echo location.

yes

Huh

Might be fun.

oh wait right i was gonna add an echolocation adaptation wasnt i

I have no idea

i was gonna

idk how to make it

ill work on that later

everyones agreed about creature rolling though right

I did at least

[regal mulch]

should we give nightcat disadvantage on attacks when in bright light

[magic oasis]

what are the mechanics for attacking in different light levels to begin with?

like bright light to dim to no light

[regal mulch]

under special conditions

should we start using battlemaps only when its necessary

instead of mapping out everything

[autumn field]

this made me lauigh so fuckin hard

helmet

[magic oasis]

helmet

i still think wrecking ball gourmand build would be hilarious as hell

[regal mulch]

you can do that

just fall on them

[magic oasis]

that's a falling grand piano

not a wrecking ball

[regal mulch]

have a saint grab you

[magic oasis]

forked tongue saint wombo combo with a helmet gourmand

is it hilariously impractical?

yes

is it funny?

hell yes

[regal mulch]

id i played a gourmand whos gimmick was falling on peole

it worked super well

[verbal ferry]

ok im baaack

gaming

i had a really cool idea last night but now i've forgotten it

💀

[magic oasis]

💀

[regal mulch]

💀

[verbal ferry]

mm

maybe host could get like

superhearing?

[regal mulch]

Host already has it basically, but it's not written.

[verbal ferry]

ah okok

[regal mulch]

ok i talked with foxy a bit i am going to prep a campaign and we can start once we finish all the species and figure out blessings

also this means i can use secret handouts

[magic oasis]

your character is the imposter

[craggy pulsar]

What’s secret handouts again?

Also, I do have a spot in the campaign right?

[magic oasis]

secret handouts are basically things you give/tell one player only

something like making one character an impo- i mean, double agent

it can be a lot of different things though

[craggy pulsar]

oh yeaaaa, now i remember

danke shön

[magic oasis]

here's an evil thing to do with it

Get 6 players

Tell each of them individually that they are a double agent working in the group

And that there is one other allied agent

Give them different sets of code words

And then watch

[craggy pulsar]

They'll all be shouting out random stuff

[magic oasis]

among us but everyone's the imposter

[craggy pulsar]

what if they all are impostors for each their own orginisation

then there's the lone innocent

[magic oasis]

nah they're all part of the same organization

[craggy pulsar]

so, how about the latter question?

well i guess autumn's gotta answer that

[magic oasis]

i dunno

ping autumn

[craggy pulsar]

don wanna disturb

besides, they check this chat quite a bit

she'll be here when she'll be here

it is what it is

[verbal ferry]

wait how much damage do weapons even do anyways

????

[regal mulch]

this one you can get in The List™️ for sure

but i plannto have 3 regulars and 2 random people from the list

spears do 2d6 im just lazy and ignore the object stats

[verbal ferry]

wo

oh lol

also uh

why dont lizards have head armor

[regal mulch]

felt like it didnt need to be added

[verbal ferry]

its like

right

also white lizards camoflague is more complicated than going down after taking any damage

they need to take an entire spear's worth of damage to lose camoflague

[regal mulch]

its close enough

[verbal ferry]

so it'd be 7

i mean that's 7 times more damage

[regal mulch]

you cant get much smaller than a spear of damage anyways

[verbal ferry]

rocks

[regal mulch]

rocks dont do damage here

because its so insignificant

[verbal ferry]

rip

:(

[regal mulch]

1/100 here would be 0.07

so its rounded to 0

[verbal ferry]

daaang

[regal mulch]

also @craggy pulsar wanna make sure you see

[craggy pulsar]

ah, wack

thought i was to be one of the regulars

[regal mulch]

when fizzys campaign comes around yeah

[craggy pulsar]

ohhh, is this another campaign?

welp, then that's coolio

Are the sessions going to be the three musketeers, and then two random cameos from the list?

[regal mulch]

close enough

i already have a campaign style that allows the random duo to appear

[verbal ferry]

am i gonna be in it

[regal mulch]

the list

[verbal ferry]

yes

im

g

[magic oasis]

the list

[regal mulch]

[verbal ferry]

the sadness

[warped ice]

playable iterator when
that would be,,, kinda rad tbh

[regal mulch]

When you make it.

[verbal ferry]

yes indeed

[regal mulch]

should hunters new downside (since we are removing blessings) be that you lose all your food pips on death

instead of just reserve

[verbal ferry]

probably

that or maybe uhhh

creatures that see them are more likely to attack them specifically

like whenever something makes eye contact

50/50 chance of targetting the hunter

making playing them risky

[regal mulch]

creature targeting should be up to the GM

[verbal ferry]

fair

[regal mulch]

ok for blessings i believe the best course of action is something along the lines of removing them for all slugcats

however spellcasters have them listed in their species traits

so for example something like 4 + level blessings

over even 4 + will + level blessings

[warped ice]

trusting me with balance is the worst idea you could possibly have

[magic oasis]

iterators have ||1 thousand health lmao||

[warped ice]

that is why they would Not have that much if they're playable

i do really wanna make a properly balanced thing for em ngl they'd be fun to play [and rp]

[regal mulch]

give them a gun

[warped ice]

iterator wit da glock

[elder fable]

tt role playing game

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the fakeness of mind

[regal mulch]

Do we have anything planned for tomorrow?

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i hope so

[regal mulch]

not currently

but if you guys want to someone else can dm

Just lemme know before tomorrow if any plans are made

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oh cool

[regal mulch]

im not starting another till the blessing rework is done and species are complete

after we finish this i might make my own system

magic gun.........

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woah

[regal mulch]

the big gimmick would be that combat spells effects differ depending on the firearm used to cast

melee characters would get maneuvers in place of spells though

[regal mulch]

example with something along the lines of absorb elements

with a shotgun it attacks back in a small cone while a pistol just gets additional damage

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firearm

that doesnt sound very rainworldy

[magic oasis]

ugh, don't you know?

slugcats and personal firearms don't mix

slugcats are better suited for crew serviced weapons

they require less strength to operate and encourage teamwork, putting the burden of recoil into other mechanisms rather than their arms

[regal mulch]

not talking about rain world here

[magic oasis]

we are always talking about rainworld

even outside of this chat

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damn, really

crying

oh yeah

just noticed that

[regal mulch]

i just dont know how touch, out of combat, and healing spells would work if i added those

then again you can just hit someone with a gun

or shoot them and have it heal em

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medigun

[regal mulch]

im gonna finish this up first because its hard to make

[regal mulch]

ok time to work on shit

what are we doing with blessings

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idk but

[regal mulch]

@hushed bane @regal mulch hi hello

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ice just had the funniest clip

[regal mulch]

At work can't helo much rn

hey

we gotta figure out whats going on with blessings

i believe the concensus was that we remove them for everyone but casters

problem would be character sheets needing to reflect this

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i feel like it'd be cool to have an adaptation to have them a little bit

[regal mulch]

yeah i was thinking that too

we would still want new traits for hunter and gourmand though

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maybe hunter could get like

full on wallclimbing

[regal mulch]

downside

not positive

[regal mulch]

Spell sheet like D&D

youd only really need to track blessings though since youll have like

2-3 spells

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oh lol

[regal mulch]

i think keeping them for anyone but through adaps works fine

still changing hunter and gourmand traits since they have no downside possible if you dont pick anything

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mm

[regal mulch]

Thought

think approved

Choice between adaps or points on adap levels

like adaps or a stat increase?

Ye

why do you suggest this?

Idk. Just random thought

Allow for different building

maybe

but we could just increase the points you get

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could also

[regal mulch]

we only have 25 + 5 species points floating around

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have weaker adaptations that let you choose a point increase

[regal mulch]

basically half feats yeah

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kinda like dnd has feytouched

yea

maybe something like the forked tongue could work?

wait

imagine half feats as a species adaptation

[regal mulch]

id rather not give half feats as a species adap

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probably a good idea

[regal mulch]

If we're gonna make them proper spell casters, we're gonna need more spells.

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yes indeed

[regal mulch]

yeah

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i feel like the uh

stat boost one which only costed a single blessing

could work well

[regal mulch]

but thats why adap spells will exist

[regal mulch]

you mean using 1 blessing for a +1 on a roll (using 1-12 blessings)

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nono

little bit higher

probably like a +2

or something

for any roll

that occurs

including maybe even damage rolls

or even allies rolls

able to be used as a reaction

[regal mulch]

Not for a single blessing. Too op

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mm ok

[regal mulch]

yeah

i wanna work on the non spellcasters first though

hunter, gourmand, and host

gourmand first since theyre gonna be the easiest

what should their downside be

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maybe host could get like

a restraining move

maybe gourmand could have like

inability to move after taking other actions

or something

or at least walk

giving them more unreliable mobility

would probably be annoying though

[regal mulch]

worse mobility seems like a good fit though

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yeah

maybe they'd get like

heavy speed debuffs

[regal mulch]

or maybe something to do with food

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my other idea is

maybe starting or stopping moving costs food

idk

[regal mulch]

that is not a good idea since you move a lot

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fair

[regal mulch]

i think it could relate to something happening when not eating prepared food?

since they have advantage on making food

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food poisoning chance

combined with possibly the mobility reduction

[magic oasis]

gourmand takes psychic damage when they eat unprepared food

either that, or unprepared food is worth only quarter pips

[regal mulch]

no quarter pips

they are evil

[regal mulch]

Only 1 pip instead of 2.

[magic oasis]

you can trust your players to avoid them at all costs anyways

[regal mulch]

food poisoning when eating unprepared food could be neat what would it be like

[regal mulch]

could also work

[magic oasis]

half pips

call them pipsqueaks

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maybe just like

if you get hit

you have a chance to vomit

and get stunned

[regal mulch]

pro tip do not eat the mysterious burned item in the pot

this will be relevant

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marijuana cat

[regal mulch]

saint

[regal mulch]

We refuse less than full pips cause they're more of a hassle to track.

we could use starvation rules but modified for food posiioning

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yeah

[regal mulch]

if you eat an unprepared meal roll a 1d8 + tolerance

roll lower than an 8 and you have you roll 1d4 (on 1 get disadvantage) before every action until you eat a prepared meal

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sounds good

[regal mulch]

Sounds like a pain in the ass. Lol

how so

Just a lot of rolling.

well its using the starving rules for the second half

but i think we can just instantly make you sick

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i mean

[regal mulch]

that might be a bit harsh though

since you need a lot of food pips

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if you're eating unprepared shit

its kinda your fault

also, i got a cool idea for hunter

[regal mulch]

go on

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doing extra damage with anything that involves fire or explosives

kinda arti half-breed thing

i feel like

making makeshift firey weapons

out of some plant matter

and flint

would be cool

and just poking shit with really hot spears

that or maybe the ability to do that could be an adaptation

just something to do with fire

[regal mulch]

i want atleast 1 of hunters adaps to be non combat though

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awww :(

i really wanted to do like

tribal person with fire

actually wait

maybe that one could be something for gourmand

that might be pretty cool

[regal mulch]

gourmands already done though

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oh

sad

well uhh

what i was suggesting for host earlier

was the ability to restrain others or something

[regal mulch]

go on

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like

shooting out tentacles

[regal mulch]

yeah like a grapple i think that could be neat

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to significantly hinder movement

[regal mulch]

kinda like a saint-lite with additional combat power

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mhm

wait

i just got a silly idea

giving monk the ability to cause short term memory loss

because the pearls in his campaign are wiped

[regal mulch]

that could actuallly be really cool

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jedi mind tricks

[regal mulch]

that reminds me im gonna make shape an adaptation

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ah right

[regal mulch]

Shape?

oh

make any item youve seen before (excluding pearls) for 3 blessings

[magic oasis]

i will use this for taming

if i wipe a lizard's memory of them being attacked, then i can gaslight them into me being their savior

[regal mulch]

Thought of some fun stat changes that would add a little more depth to the character. Actually just thought of it because of another ttrpg I have.

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maybe that one could also be used to uhh

[regal mulch]

Age stat changes.

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wipe pearls

[regal mulch]

Will explain in moments

[magic oasis]

obviously you don't mean aging mechanics but instead like

making your character different ages

[regal mulch]

Ye

[magic oasis]

like pup vs adult vs OLD

[regal mulch]

Ye

[regal mulch]

Gib

Like

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might

[regal mulch]

5-10 mins

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allow for too much minmaxing

[regal mulch]

Hopefully

[magic oasis]

and yeah

usually, children are overpowered

they're faster, harder to hit

[regal mulch]

Simply a debuff and buff for the ages with adult being middle.

[magic oasis]

nimbler

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[regal mulch]

Allow for different builds

me minmaxing my age

[magic oasis]

you're too old

get out of the meta

go to retirement home

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hi guys

im playing as

fighter hexblade warlock

feytouched

[regal mulch]

holy shit spinal tonic in real life

[magic oasis]

hi guys

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with 5 magic items

[magic oasis]

i'm playing as

what are you playing as?

[regal mulch]

gay

[magic oasis]

i'm playing as

THE PIRATE MONK

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i wanna do a pyromaniac

[regal mulch]

blue fruit in the campaign is real btw

spoils!

Young would like -1 knowledge +1 agility, old +1 knowledge -1 agility

[magic oasis]

DEET DEET DOOT DUT DUT DOOT DEDEDEDEDOOT DUT DUT DUDUDUT DUT DAT

i will eventually actually make my character

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uh

which one would work best for pyromaniac

actually wait

[regal mulch]

artificer with spontaneous combustion

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imagine pyromaniac monk

another silly idea i heard

character who is a vegan not because they like animals

[magic oasis]

when i get off my butt

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but because they fucking hate plants

[magic oasis]

i will make

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and want them all to die

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yeah ok fair

lol

[regal mulch]

Just thoughts

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imagine pyromaniac rivulet

[regal mulch]

Fire axo

[magic oasis]

i want to make my character but i am worried i will mess up

[regal mulch]

I have an idea for my next character. Will not spoils

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it'd combo so poorly but be funny

but yeah arti is probably

better

that or saint. . .

i mean we're not allowed to use CONVENTIONAL weaponry

that doesn't mean we cant use

fire

@regal mulch would pyromaniac saint be legal or

lo

[regal mulch]

yes

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ok

sounds good 👍

[regal mulch]

youre allowed to use natural weaponry

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that would be pretty fun

[magic oasis]

also gotta wait until rites and blessings are done before i make a monk too now that i think about it

[regal mulch]

Unless we make Arch illegal too, yes that's legal.

What was my total kill count Autumn?

20 somethin'?

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would spontaneous combustion reduce fire damage taken at all

or

otherwise i'd probably just take hearty or something

since

they'd have to deal with so much smoke

[regal mulch]

20ish

the iterators have tales about you now

My first was 15, so it had to have hit 20.

Arch will make a return, and I will make some lore to accompany that return.

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ok on second thought

i feel like full on pyromaniac is

a little excessive

i feel like just

utilizing fire frequently

[regal mulch]

arch has been absolutely gooped

unless you think theyd be an echo

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is less likely to result in murderhobo tendencies

[regal mulch]

"its not being a murderhobo if the food pips arent full" -hunter, explaining why theyre about to jump off a cliff and die

[magic oasis]

hunty

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fair point

also yeah

does spontaneous combustion

reduce fire damage taken at all?

i feel like reducing the die by a d4 would make sense given

d6 per action on it

versus d10 dealt

[magic oasis]

tbh i don't think fire damage will be common enough for it to even be a thing

but i think it wouldn't hurt

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well

pyromaniac

characer

and the adaptation kinda sucks as is

[regal mulch]

ill probably buff it a bit

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i feel like the damage taken

is a bit excessive

here's my reasoning.

let us assume enemies miss about 50% of the time.

so

you are fighting one creature, a blue lizard.

[regal mulch]

No, but I have ideas.

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you attack it while your fire is active, and take 1d6.

3.5 damage on average.

there is a 50/50 chance of you dealing back 5.5

but since its 50/50

that's less than 3.5

you're taking more damage than you're dealing

when enemies have more health than you do

and even in the situation where you are fighting multiple enemies at once

it requires you to get hit in order to utilize the ability

it just doesnt make sense to ever use it mathematically

you might as well be using last stand in any situation where it's good

because you're gonna die anyways

and at least then you're doing some real damage

[magic oasis]

if an ability requires you to get hit for it to be used

most of the time it's not that good

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i feel like

it should make you do extra damage on attacks while the fire is active

so you can't just

[magic oasis]

planning for the worst case scenario means you end up with what is still a not good scenario

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turn the fire off whenever you're doing an action

[magic oasis]

claws adaptation + fire

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yeah