map fixes

[green moss]

Hello @drowsy osprey

I hope this is the last one

[drowsy osprey]

ok it's not too bad of a fix at least

thank you so much for all of your help

[polar bison]

Huh?

[drowsy osprey]

i don't think that one is on me, if i had screwed up stuff there i feel like more would be misaligned

i'll take a look at the og devtool map image

[drowsy osprey]

update: it was a mistake on my part, not sure how i managed to offset such a tiny area by accident thank you klen!

ill reupload it a bit later

[polar bison]

One more weird thing

[drowsy osprey]

where?

[polar bison]

Black line i guess

[drowsy osprey]

OH

right

i might have accidentally moved that up

fixed and uploaded both to the wiki and gdrive

[green moss]

That pipe is one pixel higher

[drowsy osprey]

oops

[drowsy osprey]

fixed on si and full maps

[green moss]

that pole is one pixel to the left

[drowsy osprey]

fixing now

[green moss]

should this line in the icon of the required level of karma be the same length on all maps?

[drowsy osprey]

i adjust it depending on the surrounding context

[green moss]

Okay

I just decided to compare them and here is the result

[drowsy osprey]

as i said, its adjusted depending on the surrounding context, including the karma symbols they are dividing, so it makes sense that most of the ones with similar symbols are similar in length

[green moss]

Hello @drowsy osprey

I rechecked maps on ru wiki and found these weird connections on DS map

[green moss]

I'm sorry that I bothered you again

[hexed sequoia]

can confirm these are on the english wiki map as well

[hexed sequoia]

@green moss

I fixed the issue (I hope) by moving some rooms (as well as outlines and the karma gate text) a pixel to the left. Is this good, or are there issues with anything (specifically borders/connections)?

(feel free to respond whenever, it's 1:42 A.M. where i am and i'm going to sleep after this post)

[cursive gate]

So, now we have to make versions of maps for each Slugcat?

[drowsy osprey]

[hexed sequoia]

everything else in CC looks good to me

[drowsy osprey]

not sure what you mean by those?

[green moss]

I'm not sure but maybe this is also a mistake

[drowsy osprey]

both of the screenshots you showed have the lines connecting the right entrances @ mm

[drowsy osprey]

i only go out of my way to fill in geometry if it's completely encompassed by the room but ill fill it in if you think it looks better

not sure what youre pointing out in the second image

[drowsy osprey]

and @hexed sequoia can you elaborate

[hexed sequoia]

kind of hard to explain, let me open in photopea and make the proposed edit

[drowsy osprey]

are you proposing that it needs to be like this?

[hexed sequoia]

gimme one sec

[green moss]

extra pixel to the left of the gate

[drowsy osprey]

that's what the devtools gave me

i didnt alter the rooms at all other than cropping down some of the skyboxes

[hexed sequoia]

im saying like this

[drowsy osprey]

but it doesnt connect to those ones

my rule with the connection lines is that they dont touch their corresponding entrances unless i literally cant fit them in to do so

[hexed sequoia]

ok

[drowsy osprey]

if i did what you're proposing i would have to change every single connection to reflect that updated rule

[hexed sequoia]

ah alright

ok then CC is perfectly good as it is rn

[green moss]

Two connections not painted black

[drowsy osprey]

i will prolly update the sky islands ones to also be black where necessary

[hexed sequoia]

ok we've got a skill issue - the right entrance of DS_A19 should be on the right wall

[drowsy osprey]

screenshots please

[hexed sequoia]

yes

[drowsy osprey]

[hexed sequoia]

@green moss can you repost the other DS stuff you found please so i'm not retreading ground

[drowsy osprey]

ive already fixed those

[hexed sequoia]

not in the folder you haven't

[drowsy osprey]

yes i have

i just obviously havent uploaded it yet

[hexed sequoia]

ok ill try to ignore those

[green moss]

@hexed sequoia I didn't have time to check SS, SH, UW and HI

[hexed sequoia]

minor nitpick but the left entrance of DS_C03 is horizontal

[green moss]

about this, all the other pipes were painted over and this is the only one not

[hexed sequoia]

incorrect left connection of DS_D03

[drowsy osprey]

thats because the outline happened to fill them in

but ive gone and manually filled it in too

[green moss]

OK

[drowsy osprey]

anything else for DS?

[drowsy osprey]

(just to demonstrate what i mean by this)

[green moss]

I didn't find anything else

[green moss]

Okay, l understand

[hexed sequoia]

ok looked at DS and it looks fine other than those issues

[drowsy osprey]

all fixed then

[hexed sequoia]

can i see the fixed map?

[drowsy osprey]

ill try to send it

[green moss]

Forgot about it

[drowsy osprey]

for some reason discord has been super slow with uploading attachments for me lately :\

[drowsy osprey]

will fix

[hexed sequoia]

honestly the map looks nicer this way

[drowsy osprey]

well duh it looks nicer when its more accurate

[green moss]

maybe it will be faster on google drive?

[drowsy osprey]

its already hosted on gdrive

[hexed sequoia]

ah yes, the floor is made of floor

[drowsy osprey]

but i will reupload the DS ones there rq

[hexed sequoia]

going to do GW and then take a little break

[drowsy osprey]

think ive fixed everything with CC, working on SI now

[green moss]

Now it looks better and more accurate

[green moss]

And this too

[drowsy osprey]

[hexed sequoia]

GW_E01 left side

[green moss]

maybe it's better to move this icon to the right?

[drowsy osprey]

oh i will i think i might have forgotten to move it after trimming some skyboxes

[green moss]

I already sent it

this is what i sent

[drowsy osprey]

this is intentional

i thought that having the connection overlap the room would be too intrusive

its a very wide area

[hexed sequoia]

yeah other than what sasha pointed out the rest of gw's connections are correct

[green moss]

I'm sorry but maybe you forgot about it

[drowsy osprey]

i didnt

i havent uploaded the most recent version of CC to gdrive yet

[drowsy osprey]

oh

[green moss]

yes it is correct now

[drowsy osprey]

awesome

[green moss]

Hello @polar bison

welcome to the thread

the symbol on the map of the Citadel is larger than on the others

[drowsy osprey]

i swear i copy/pasted it

[drowsy osprey]

cc again

[green moss]

The greatest secret

[drowsy osprey]

working on GW now

[drowsy osprey]

also going to be replacing "scavenger storeroom" and "stronghold" labels with "scavenger treasury"

as that's what they're called in the game's code

[green moss]

Oh

[drowsy osprey]

fixed some other things with this map, i think it looks a lot better on the whole

(also yes i know cc has a storeroom label, fixing now )

[green moss]

New work on translation

[drowsy osprey]

sorry!!

[green moss]

that's all right

[drowsy osprey]

working on SL now

really appreciate you guys pointing out these errors btw

[green moss]

it will be better this way

[drowsy osprey]

working on SU now

@green moss not sure what the issue is here :?

oh

wait

nvm

sorry about the ping!

[green moss]

Don't worry about it

[drowsy osprey]

and doing the last one sasha pointed out in LF now

also going to improve the spacing on the LF map a bit

or at least attempt to

[green moss]

Did you decide to leave this pixel?

[drowsy osprey]

yes

it's part of the devtools-generated map itself

[green moss]

Okay

[drowsy osprey]

as i said before i didnt alter them beyond trimming the skyboxes

[green moss]

Ok

I have to go

[drowsy osprey]

alright thank you again for your help, have a good day!

[green moss]

Good luck to you

[green moss]

I'm going to sleep but okay)

Thanks

[drowsy osprey]

oh oops goodnight!

rest well

[green moss]

Thanks again

[drowsy osprey]

that's 6/12 (hopefully) all done

though i would appreciate if those 6 are checked through again too

oh wait i forgot to save the changes i made to SB

[drowsy osprey]

so that is 7/12 done(?)

[drowsy osprey]

wait, i forgot to update the treasury label

[drowsy osprey]

(afking for a bit now)

[drowsy osprey]

am back now though it seems like nobody else is around so uh. ping me when one of you guys is ready to keep giving feedback

oh before i dip ill send the rest of the maps that need going-over

[drowsy osprey]

maps that havent been extensively checked yet:

i am aware of the treasury ones and i will update those

and please do feel free to double check the old ones just in case there is anything else i missed

[hexed sequoia]

HI_C03's bottom connection is in the wrong spot

same with the top of HI_B05

other than that all HI connections look good

minor nitpick but the rightward connection of LF_E02 is vertical - this is not communicated with the current line

otherwise LF is good

Subterranean appears to be connection-mistake free, no changes needed

ok now for shaded

connection dotted lines are completely absent here

connection to SH_A26 (merchant room) is in the wrong spot

SH_S10 connection is also in the wrong spot

nothing else for SH

ok i have now checked 7/12 regions and i will take a break for the night

[drowsy osprey]

fixed both HI ones

[drowsy osprey]

i may change this if i need to seriously update the map again but for now its too minor of a thing

doing SH now

guh wait

[drowsy osprey]

now its mainly SS and UW that need checking

reposting maps again

[drowsy osprey]

i feel like its very likely i screwed up a lot of the connections on SS UW less so given how linear it is

[polar bison]

Kip

[drowsy osprey]

hi klen

[polar bison]

Good morning, Kip

[drowsy osprey]

gm!

x2

x3

ok i think those were the only 3 for UW but i def encourage you guys to check it over too im about to sleep so

[polar bison]

Sleep well, Kip

[drowsy osprey]

ty! have a good day

[green moss]

Hello everyone
I started rechecking the maps

CC:

DS: -

GW:

HI:

[hexed sequoia]

ok i'm back

SI has no connection errors so far as I can tell

[green moss]

FL:

possibly moved icons

[drowsy osprey]

hullo im awake now

[green moss]

Good morning

[drowsy osprey]

gm

[green moss]

Nothing else in LF

[green moss]

SB:

I don't remember if I dropped it or not?

[drowsy osprey]

:?

[hexed sequoia]

ok SL time

first error spotted - the SL_E01 connection to SL_C03 is incorrect

[green moss]

I meant the shelter icon

[drowsy osprey]

ohhhh

right gotcha

[hexed sequoia]

no other SL issues spotted

[drowsy osprey]

anything else for SB or SL?

gotcha

[hexed sequoia]

nothing for SB or SL other than what i pointed out

going to take another break

what i have left to check is:

• SS
• SU
• UW

[drowsy osprey]

gotcha

i caught 3 errors on UW myself so let me export and send the new version

[green moss]

there is a trader in this room, not a treasury

[drowsy osprey]

ah ok i think it was listed as a merchant in the andrew maps which is why i put that

[green moss]

should it be painted over?

[drowsy osprey]

oop

yes

caught these ones too

[green moss]

And maybe it's better to paint it too?

[drowsy osprey]

yup

[green moss]

oh l didn't even notice that

[drowsy osprey]

double checked everything, i think ive filled all of the gaps that need to be filled now

[green moss]

nothing else in SB

[green moss]

Okay

[drowsy osprey]

[green moss]

Double check, double check and again double check

[drowsy osprey]

yep

the wiki grind never ends

[green moss]

Never ending cycle

[drowsy osprey]

[green moss]

SH:

meme about how one of the member of our server sees the check of maps
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970451119413276732/983691429949890580/Sasha58_.mp4

Автор карты = Map author

[drowsy osprey]

oh my god

incredible

[green moss]

Nothing else in SH

[green moss]

SI: -

[green moss]

SL:

White connection

[green moss]

that's all what I found on SL

[hexed sequoia]

SS time

weird connection line misplacement regarding SS_D06

somehow an ENTIRELY INCORRECT SHELTER is where SS_S02 should be

top connection of SS_C06 is wrong

no other errors spotted in 5P

somewhat unsurprisingly, i have found no errors in SU

only thing left for me to check is UW

very minor nitpick is that both entrances to UW_E02 are vertical (downwards), which is not really communicated very well here

minor skill issue (UW_E03)

missing UW_C01/UW_A05 connection

UW_E01 bottom connection misalignment

no other issues, i have gone through all regions

@drowsy osprey

[drowsy osprey]

i already caught all of those UW ones

you didnt check the latest version

[drowsy osprey]

not enough space to communicate this

[hexed sequoia]

well i found no other errors so assuming that you changed those and nothing else it should be good

[drowsy osprey]

[hexed sequoia]

did you check the SS stuff though

[drowsy osprey]

im about to start going through everything and fixing it now

[hexed sequoia]

[hexed sequoia]

kip, which role do you have that gives you pinning privileges here? i can't imagine it would be either helper role, so...

wiki admin?

[drowsy osprey]

yes wiki admin

it's also why i can create threads

[hexed sequoia]

cant wait for these to be done just for sasha to do a recheck and find 2 more errors per region that i somehow missed

[drowsy osprey]

the wiki grind never stops after all

[hexed sequoia]

we should make a map comparison image once all of the new ones are finalized

most different one in terms of shape is probably...

shaded? idk

[drowsy osprey]

definitely farm arrays

i increased the spacing of the layers on it significantly so the labels had more room to breathe

[hexed sequoia]

in terms of "which map is obviously improved" we have Five Pebbles, in which the size of RTA has been shrunken by half

[drowsy osprey]

ohhhhhhhh you mean compared to the andrew maps

[hexed sequoia]

honorary shoreline mention

[drowsy osprey]

in which case i nominate SL for no longer being the most misleading map ever

hmm

HI will also probably look quite different

[drowsy osprey]

forgor to pin

[green moss]

SS:

if I'm right, this thing only appears for Monk and Survivor

maybe it's better to somehow change the icon or add text?

[polar bison]

Monk/Survivor exclusive

[green moss]

and those lines look a little weird

[hexed sequoia]

which lines?

there are poles lining that corridor

[green moss]

Sorry

I meant empty spaces between rooms

This

[green moss]

SU: -

[green moss]

UW: -

I start the third cycle of rechecking

[drowsy osprey]

((sorry i was absent for most of yesterday

[drowsy osprey]

we already use this icon to represent "monk/survivor exclusive unlock" across the wiki

we tried some alternatives but eventually agreed that this was the most clear visually

[drowsy osprey]

ill adjust the spacing rq

[drowsy osprey]

fixed some other things i noticed too

[green moss]

CC: -

[green moss]

GW: -

HI: -

LF:

[green moss]

SB: -

SL: -

[green moss]

SS:

[drowsy osprey]

oh i probably shouldnt have uploaded both of those in one

lol

[drowsy osprey]

going to upload all of these since the ones currently on the wiki are from several iterations ago and slightly more but potentially not 100% accurate maps is probably better than nothing

[drowsy osprey]

just noticed a ridiculous mistake w/ the uw map

[drowsy osprey]

forgor to send this one

[green moss]

Drainage System map has a 15 px blank border around map

Industrial Complex map has a 29 px blank border around map

[green moss]

Should it be placed like this?

It just looks like it's moved out a little bit.

[drowsy osprey]

woop

yes, that is moved out a bit

[drowsy osprey]

will fix ds and hi map borders now

[green moss]

you accidentally uploaded an old version of a .psd file

[drowsy osprey]

oops

yeah clip studio paint created a dialogue when i saved it and i didn't realise til after i sent it

i did save the new version of the .psd though

[polar bison]

do poles in depths have to be this color?

[drowsy osprey]

i can tweak them

but what is the issue with that colour exactly?

[polar bison]

On old maps they are yellowish

[drowsy osprey]

i think the new colour is a lot more visible comparatively i intentionally increased the saturation and made it a bit more orange to do so

i tweaked a lot of the pole/accent colours for other regions as well, not just depths

[polar bison]

Oh, okay, so it's not a mistake

[drowsy osprey]

never hurts to double check

[green moss]

Found two unpainted connections

[green moss]

The Exterior map has the wrong pearl icon

[hexed sequoia]

same pearl symbol issue present in Shaded's map as well

(checked the other maps and no inconsistencies seem to be present)

and if we want to argue over which one's more "correct", the passage artwork Wanderer symbol is closer in shape to the one that's used on 15/17 pearl locations than the "incorrect" one used on only the Shaded and Exterior pearls