#rw memes senate

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wooden pilot
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11k members and only like 20 people here

brazen parcel
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tru slugsweat

onyx matrix
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rrrr okay

brazen parcel
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28 i think

upbeat lagoon
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i don't see how having a thread is going to change really anything, but i guess it doesn't hurt to try it out huntershruggy

onyx matrix
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^^^

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i guess i've also just

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seen threads as a pointless dumb addition that discord screams at you about

teal pawn
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Join

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@brazen parcel

brazen parcel
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lol

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lemme see if i still have an account

static thunder
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i dont play that since 2018 lol

swift parrot
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Very important clan

static thunder
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"we cant even stay on topic on a thread on a chat"

brazen parcel
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this is ontopic

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we were talking about alternate formats for rain world community content

swift parrot
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Factual

teal pawn
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Join the clan you get free elder !!!

swift parrot
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Yes

robust wasp
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hell yes!

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Im looking forward to the NSH JTAs

static thunder
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LOL

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five pebbles in 18 questions

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"Character Already Played 75 Times"

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is slugcat tubby?

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oh shit

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wrong chat

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how did i ended here lol

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teleportation, (literally)

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well i go back to wher i should be

whole locust
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Question, if #misc-spoilers was a thing, what would it change to #vanilla-spoilers? What I mean is - what out of what is allowed there currently might not be anymore because it should instead be in #misc-spoilers?

onyx matrix
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probably nothing

static thunder
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nothing

whole locust
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I hope slugshook

static thunder
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why would it

onyx matrix
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threads are awful on mobile

onyx matrix
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you know what

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a thread could work for the meme discussion

static thunder
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wow

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that was a fasg change of mind

static thunder
muted sable
somber creek
teal pawn
onyx matrix
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i still think that the no search specifically is a bit sucky

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but we could try

static thunder
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when will the democracy start?

brazen parcel
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when staff get time

static thunder
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#threadmemechat

onyx matrix
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nuh uh

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self reacting

static thunder
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lol

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is that bad?

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i even react with a slugwave to myself most of the time for no aparent reason

onyx matrix
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it is bad

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smh

brazen parcel
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yeah

static thunder
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why is it bad slugshrug

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everyone can check who reacted

brazen parcel
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it back

brazen parcel
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HELLO

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EVERYONE NEEDS TO VOTE 1

quick marsh
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ping them

swift parrot
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Vote option one today!

onyx matrix
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vote 1 lizgreengaming

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laura give us the benefits of threads or something

brazen parcel
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YES

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  1. a thread can be closed regardless of other muted channels for people who dont want the extra channel but want to be able to click other muted channels
  2. a thread will be more on topic than a channer because itll be attached to the gallery and slightly less accessible for randos who would enter it to spam offtopic
  3. people get to use split screen on it AND THERE IS RESIZING
  4. its far safer than creating a channel because it can easily be replaced with a channel if discord ruins threads somehow

a lot of the hate for threads comes from that people are entirely unfamilliar with them, but i feel like meme-discussion would be the perfect opportunity for people to find out they work (or easily just replace it with a channel if people really keep hating it)

spiral monolith
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rw memes senate

rocky grail
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senate

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not yet

onyx matrix
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hi vorgozz

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we are going to beat you to death (verbally) i think that's how it goes

rocky grail
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incoherent screeching and spinning

onyx matrix
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great

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ok

swift parrot
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All people have to do is ignore the options and hitlizardred

robust wasp
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meme discussion threads best option

brazen parcel
onyx matrix
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if they don't know what they're voting for what's the point

brazen parcel
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exactly

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people are already misinformed

steady folio
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threads are a bit tricky on phone but they're still the better option i think

sharp quail
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#TeamOption2Unite

steady folio
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A lot of people are just not used to them so they vote the other way, which is sad

robust wasp
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public votes are a shitty concept anyway, the mods should just do what's best and then listen to feedback

brazen parcel
onyx matrix
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grrrrrrrrrrrr

brazen parcel
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they significantly delay the pace of progress too

robust wasp
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option 2 is for old retired people who are unable to change

steady folio
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whatever happens, I still think a starboard for rw-memes would be a wonderful option. But yeah rw-memes should change anyway so...
Why not both ?

robust wasp
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threads are the f u t u r e slugblobcool

onyx matrix
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wow! there's one less vote for 2!

brazen parcel
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WAIT THREADS HAVE PINS

onyx matrix
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only about 100 to go for our side and we win!

brazen parcel
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WE'VE BEEN LIED TO

onyx matrix
steady folio
onyx matrix
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you didn't know that??

static thunder
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also

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literally

brazen parcel
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i was told they didnt lmao

robust wasp
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#vote1

sharp quail
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#NoToThreads

onyx matrix
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there sliterally a button

sharp quail
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#ThreadsRBoomers

wooden sapphire
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what option do I vote for

brazen parcel
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YE :O

swift parrot
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#yestothreads

brazen parcel
onyx matrix
brazen parcel
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vote 1

wooden sapphire
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wth

onyx matrix
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vote option 1 it's good

static thunder
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Also threads are perfect because images have a Max lenght, so you can have it like this and it will work perfectly becasue #rw-meme-discussion is only used for images

clear scaffold
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i think laure is getting paid by discord so we use threads

onyx matrix
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why is there a worm pond chain

rocky grail
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angriest result

brazen parcel
wooden sapphire
onyx matrix
brazen parcel
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revote exit poll:

static thunder
sharp quail
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As the person who lobbied to get the memes channel integrated I say Vote 4 Option 4. Have 3 channels. You can never have enough memes.

clear scaffold
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3 channels? you are crazy. Let's have 5 channels

burnt grove
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So what are the vote options

clear scaffold
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meme-showcase, meme-gallery, meme-support, meme-n-tech

burnt grove
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Hmm

clear scaffold
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and meme-releases

brazen parcel
onyx matrix
steady folio
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memovement slugtroll

static thunder
clear scaffold
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the new channel (option 2) would allow to expand the channel topic to be more relaxed, so you can post this gif without getting in trouble

onyx matrix
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same with threads i think

clear scaffold
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same with threads but worse

brazen parcel
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far better

onyx matrix
steady folio
static thunder
brazen parcel
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thatd be awesome

clear scaffold
wooden sapphire
brazen parcel
steady folio
static thunder
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also if we use threads we would be pioneers huntersmug, maybe it gets popular among all servers on discord, who knows lizgreengaming

pure cloak
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Don't threads have notifs for each message though?

clear scaffold
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ioneers

onyx matrix
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by off topic i think laura meant not rw

steady folio
static thunder
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ioneers lol agony

pure cloak
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I remember that being a thing in smaller channels, maybe they changed it idk.

burnt grove
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Hmmm

brazen parcel
burnt grove
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HMMMM

onyx matrix
clear scaffold
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vote all you want, we are going abmin abuse all the way and just go for option 4, no more rw memes

onyx matrix
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(they should talk about gallery more though)

burnt grove
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All I know is that my gut says maybe

swift parrot
onyx matrix
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cmon option 1 won't hurt (it's losing anyways)

pure cloak
wooden sapphire
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option 4: leave it as it is, but have torbie pin good memes

onyx matrix
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what

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why me

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no

pure cloak
clear scaffold
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slugdab when this emote was added several people left the server

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better times

onyx matrix
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why would I pin good memes

steady folio
onyx matrix
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yeah

clear scaffold
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dab back then was as cringe as amogus now i guess

wooden sapphire
onyx matrix
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it still is cringe

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uuhhh but

clear scaffold
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literally the coolest movement you can make

onyx matrix
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not mod and not interested

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take that radek

quick marsh
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dabbing in 2022 just gives you the "how do you do fellow kids" aura that's so potent you can knock someone out

steady folio
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JUST ADD A BOT TO PIN MEMES WITH ENOUGH REACTIONS REGARDLESS OF HOW THE VOTE TURNS OUT, JEEZ

clear scaffold
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same as amogus

swift parrot
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Several years later

pure cloak
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So if I'm correct, the way options 2 and 1 work is that in the chat based options rw-memes can technically function the same as it does now, with a separate option to post memes in a place they won't get buried?

quick marsh
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global starboard for server when

wooden sapphire
pure cloak
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I'm oversimplifying but I think that's the idea.

swift parrot
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You can change notifications

pure cloak
brazen parcel
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with more people posting high quality memes in a gallery the discussion will shift towards chilling out talking about the memes and reposting

onyx matrix
pure cloak
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The notifs don't bother me, they just might turn other people off from the idea.

spiral monolith
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ok I do need to say quickly before -

steady folio
spiral monolith
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dabs were definitely as strong as amogus in 2017

swift parrot
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โ€ฆ

pure cloak
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Yeah I was just misunderstanding this.

static thunder
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hey axo

spiral monolith
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if not stronger

steady folio
spiral monolith
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because politicians were doing them

onyx matrix
steady folio
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with this ==> ๐Ÿ“Œ

onyx matrix
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sometimes stol;en memes get ๐Ÿ“Œ

steady folio
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mmm yeah that's another problem

clear scaffold
pure cloak
wooden sapphire
clear scaffold
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same thing happened with pokimon go

onyx matrix
pure cloak
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Just recreate their own versions of the jerma sus face?

clear scaffold
steady folio
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there's already someone who pins stuff, maybe they can filter the bad ones ?

static thunder
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could someone change the image that shows how threads can be displayed with one with a larger chat and smaller images because images actually have a lenght limit, so it wont make sense to have a chat as small as the one you are showing, giving the impression for those who didnt tried it that is impossible to change the size or something scremcat

clear scaffold
static thunder
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lets accept defeat

onyx matrix
steady folio
wooden sapphire
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option 4: leave it as it is, but have torbie jevmen pin good memes

onyx matrix
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hell no

static thunder
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yes

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i decide

steady folio
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option 5 just make radek do it

frank surge
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give me full control of pinning memes

pure cloak
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I really don't care either way, I've just noticed that on discord when people face anything that even slightly hinders their experience to post memes they have a heart attack.

static thunder
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i agree to be enslaved and only live to move memes

onyx matrix
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yeah gie it to perr

wooden sapphire
steady folio
static thunder
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gie

onyx matrix
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???

steady folio
onyx matrix
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oh

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oh.

steady folio
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you should
gie
to bed

onyx matrix
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its 15

steady folio
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yeah

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no excuse

clear scaffold
brazen parcel
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the poor vote

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buncha people misinformed about how epic and useful threads are

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they clearly havent read
this epic information:

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  1. a thread can be closed regardless of other muted channels for people who dont want the extra channel but want to be able to click other muted channels
  2. a thread will be more on topic than a channer because itll be attached to the gallery and slightly less accessible for randos who would enter it to spam offtopic
  3. people get to use split screen on it AND THERE IS RESIZING
  4. its far safer than creating a channel because it can easily be replaced with a channel if discord ruins threads somehow

a lot of the hate for threads comes from that people are entirely unfamilliar with them, but i feel like meme-discussion would be the perfect opportunity for people to find out they work (or easily just replace it with a channel if people really keep hating it)

also threads are perfect because media has a max length, so you can have it like this and it will work perfectly because rw-memes is only used for media

wooden sapphire
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huh split screen

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now that's epic

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and it doesn't reset when you switch channels

sharp quail
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option 2 to da moon

steady folio
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I've seen only two people vote for two which is another proof that 2 voters are just bots

sharp quail
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The post above is a bot

brazen parcel
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smh jam

sharp quail
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When all 3 are changes

flint wagon
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what are we voting about?

knotty zinc
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The only one issue with threads is that people have to actually search for and join them, which isn't automatic unless they're specifically pinged in the thread. People less familiar with them won't find it super obvious, so you'd have to constantly insist their existence. Generally when you create a thread in a channel, the notification for that appears in the channel and you can click on that. This of course gets buried with frequent posts and if you aren't joined in the thread already, you'd have to either get pinged in it or join manually here.

brazen parcel
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people can always click the link too

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anywhere in the server

swift parrot
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What the

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What happened

brazen parcel
flint wagon
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as threads can allow you to focus in on specific meme

knotty zinc
swift parrot
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Did they reset?

knotty zinc
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although in my experience, a lot of people don't tend to read descriptions ForbiddenGourmand

flint wagon
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What did you vote? laura?

brazen parcel
swift parrot
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Awesome

teal pawn
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#vote2lizardyellow

swift parrot
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Trolled

spiral monolith
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good ending

brazen parcel
swift parrot
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True

teal pawn
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Axo what did you vote for

flint wagon
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everyone voted option 1 huh I guess we are discord savvy!

spiral monolith
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all, so that there's a minimum of one option ticked at any time

sharp quail
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Top 5 useless features in discord

  1. Discord Store
  2. Stickers
  3. Threads
  4. Channel descriptions
  5. Discord nft
spiral monolith
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will deselect tactically at the end

brazen parcel
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what would you vote axo?

brazen parcel
spiral monolith
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destroy and kill and attack and

wooden pilot
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honestly trying out threads w the split view feels pretty nice

spiral monolith
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probably option 1 or 2, I'd be worried that starboard would be too much work for everyone

brazen parcel
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yeah kip you should vote 1 :)

wooden pilot
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i did lizgreengaming

brazen parcel
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heck yeah :)

flint wagon
steady folio
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starboard would be nice, regardless of which vote it turns out to win

flint wagon
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and allow for easy reference of long useful conversations

wooden sapphire
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what even is discord store

wooden pilot
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so if you're gonna add an entire new channel may as well just make #meme-discussion right?

steady folio
wooden pilot
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that's the entire reason why there are two versions of nitro

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the more expensive version originally gave you free access to all of the games offered

teal pawn
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Now it just gives you boosts now

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And a banner

wooden pilot
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yeah

teal pawn
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Which should honestly be included without nitro

sharp quail
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Ripoff

teal pawn
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Not even the 5 dollar one gets you a banner

cloud quartz
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Where did all the vote go I saw so many more a few hours ago

teal pawn
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No clue

sharp quail
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Staff fix it

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This vote was rigged from the start

cloud quartz
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Holy shit why is red now seemingly winning by a landslide

brazen parcel
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yeah it was rigged from the start we should get a thread

sharp quail
frank surge
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there's still 120 for me

wooden pilot
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i have no idea why you're seeing that, yellow has >100 for me

cloud quartz
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For me it's only 3 too

wooden pilot
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mobile discord moment mayhaps

cloud quartz
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Yeah I'm on mobile

clear scaffold
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lizard people rigging the elections???????

cloud quartz
steady folio
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uuuh ??

frank surge
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also i feel like discussion about this is pointless anyway bc i don't think option 1 will overtake option 2

steady folio
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why are you seeing only 3

frank surge
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ever

cloud quartz
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Where is the wave I put in voting :(

brazen parcel
wooden pilot
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just because it probably wont win doesnt mean we cant discuss it no?

brazen parcel
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the post represents threads in a very bad light imo

frank surge
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option 1 coup

brazen parcel
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showing people the facts about threads has changed a lot of peoples minds ngl

wooden pilot
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"alright yeah x option is gonna win better pack it up everybody"

sharp quail
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Delete 1 votes

clear scaffold
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omw

wooden pilot
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discussing it means more people can see the pros and cons of each option and therefore make more informed choices sluggains

brazen parcel
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im working on a change.org petition and a google doc outlining the issues with the vote

sharp quail
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Time to well inform everyone about option 2

teal pawn
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#vote1lizardred

clear scaffold
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#teamMouth

sharp quail
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YES

brazen parcel
steady folio
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that's the most useless war I've ever seen and I'm ๐Ÿฟ for it

teal pawn
sharp quail
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Lame thread

brazen parcel
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team mouth

teal pawn
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Consumed

clear scaffold
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so i always win

wooden sapphire
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why did so many people vote for 2 then

frank surge
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most people think threads are dumb

teal pawn
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Misinformation

wooden pilot
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tbf i dont blame them for thinking that because threads were rolled out pretty awfully from what i remember

wooden sapphire
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you should've made a quiz about all the options, and only allow people who pass to vote

wooden pilot
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but i think they could be genuinely useful here

sharp quail
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Not wanting =/= misinformation

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The misinformation campaign is misinformation

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I caught yall on 4k

wooden pilot
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i dont really care much about the memes channel specifically but i figure that if threads work successfully here they could be implemented well in other places in the server

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like what gar is trying with the FAQ thread in modding support

clear scaffold
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personally, I just dont like threads from a moderating perspective. They cannot be easily edited (for example, change a private thread into a public ) and any changes we make will likely result in losing the chat history ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
so i think the safe choice is a regular channel, which it is more future proof

clear scaffold
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if discord decides to improve threads in the future then good

sharp quail
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Yes i like improvement too

wooden pilot
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very fair points

rocky grail
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Discord improving

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lol

steady folio
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idc who wins, I just want a starboard of memes

clear scaffold
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it will be the same but instead of a bot, we will use human labor to pin memes

wooden pilot
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rain world server breaking labour laws sluganxiety

rocky grail
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just develop giant supercalculators to do it for you

clear scaffold
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literally rain world in irl life

wooden pilot
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the cycle of pinning the same "slugcat irl" gif every week slugshade

wooden sapphire
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split screen thread remain highlighted in the sidebar even if you are caught up with it

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horrible

onyx matrix
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rrrrrr

steady folio
onyx matrix
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if only we could convince the lizardwhite and vulture people

wooden pilot
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having a laugh if you will

steady folio
frank surge
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human labour is better so you can selectively skip unfunny memes that get pin reactions

wooden pilot
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rain world server elitism slugtroll

frank surge
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ok

wooden pilot
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perr would never pin anything hunterkek

frank surge
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wtf i was looking for an example meme to post and say i would pin it but all the good memes got sent to #pins

brazen parcel
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lol

steady folio
frank surge
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grugboard

cunning loom
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ok my opinion on the voting options

option 1 is bad. threads don't work like they should (although you guys may disagree) and most memes won't even get threads anyway.

option 2 is easily the worst option here. art discussion works because it's a reaction to something that was created with the intent to impress others and be discussed. memes on the other hand (especially shitposts) tend to have few actual points of discussion and thus we'll end up with a situation where we have more memes than discussion occuring

option 3 is ok. it would involve rw-memes functioning as normal and having a starboard for particularly good ones. this would at least incentivize making better memes to get onto the starboard

option 4 is a worse option 3.

i would personally prefer an option 5, which is:

  • rw-memes stays as is
  • users can upload their memes to a #meme-gallery channel so that they can be viewed without being buried by discussion
  • the starboard from option 3 also remains, but it contains the 5-10 highest reacted memes of the month
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the additional issue with threads (option 1) is that if there's no discussion for a week, the entire thread will permanently close and delete everyone's messages. (not good)

frank surge
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option 6 just move misc-chat next to rw-memes

spiral monolith
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gugborg

brazen parcel
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it wont be a thread per meme

cunning loom
wooden pilot
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grug

cunning loom
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option 8. rw-memes and misc-chat are both removed. no more memes, period

wooden pilot
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the good ending

steady folio
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option 9 : bring #scavs back

cunning loom
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"y'all couldn't behave"

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is it bad that i don't know what JTAs even are

wooden pilot
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theyre the latest movement tech slugtroll

steady folio
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jta

cunning loom
frank surge
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it's gat

steady folio
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it's a deformation of "cta", which is a deformation of "cat"

wooden pilot
sharp quail
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Mee6 nukes the votes

rocky grail
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MEE6 promoting bad features once again

frank surge
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mee6 nft

sharp quail
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It may appear that an outage may be the culprit

spiral monolith
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Alright we're going to wait an hour and see what happens

rocky grail
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I can't believe an outage rigged the vote

spiral monolith
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current numbers, from a non reloading staff member

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smh

static thunder
brazen parcel
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true

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or dm them

static thunder
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literally, we are altering the elections

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i feel like a government

brazen parcel
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i wish more people were openminded about threads

odd sail
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I like starboard more but threads are cool too

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option 2 just is bad

brazen parcel
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yeaa option 2 is gonna be a shame

static thunder
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so

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what did i miss?

brazen parcel
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not much, seems like reacts are broke at the mo

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but staff have the values that it was before the bug

odd sail
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this is what I see so yeah this is broke

static thunder
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lol i still see it as it is

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i have 55 130 39

brazen parcel
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oh if you screenshot staff can see that

spiral monolith
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want to send a screenie yea?

static thunder
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me?

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ok

little sentinel
static thunder
wooden sapphire
brazen parcel
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its broken for everyone who refreshes discord

somber creek
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Wut
Where did all the votes go

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Discord fucked up again, just great

somber creek
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Personnally i voted for both because they both are so similar

brazen parcel
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i have a whole thing

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whole buncha reasons 1 is better

brazen parcel
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itd be a shame to lose out on all those

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i feel like most people didnt know about these before voting so it feels like a bit of a waste of democracy

sharp quail
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Respect the vote!

odd sail
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I still only see 13 option 2 votes slugstare

onyx matrix
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not good

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not good at all

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we need like 3x the votes we have now

little sentinel
somber creek
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Only real big plus is split screen

brazen parcel
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and muting

flint wagon
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Remember everyone choose option 1

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If not youโ€™re seriously arenโ€™t based

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No pressureโ€ฆ

brazen parcel
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lol

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now's a really good option to try out threads yall

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and there's no pressure if we try it and it doesn't work cuz it's so easy to replace with a channel

little sentinel
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how do you split screen threads

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nvm found it

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and wow this is very cool

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(I'm not a paid actor)

somber creek
flint wagon
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if it doesnโ€™t we shouldnโ€™t post in the thread

brazen parcel
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it'll be a permanent thread linked in the gallery description

flint wagon
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you can always post in them to unarchive them

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well unless the user deletes it

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but what I said should be an unwritten rule

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laura do you think what I said is a good idea?

brazen parcel
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yes

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sadly I think too many people have written off the idea of threads before trying them out so we probably won't get one

flint wagon
brazen parcel
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yeah

flint wagon
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and alot of servers just ban them

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since they are hard to moderate

sullen tusk
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since the main issue with threads is that people are unfamiliar with it, wouldn't it be better to mash up options 1 and 2, having a rw-discussion-thread and the channel next to it, then over time if the thread gets more usage the separate channel can be thrown into the void?

flint wagon
#

no

sullen tusk
#

welp

flint wagon
#

threads are here

brazen parcel
#

well

flint wagon
#

and when discussion fails

brazen parcel
#

i don't think staff would want to do that

flint wagon
#

someone can ask how the unwritten rules work

brazen parcel
#

and the channel might just be seen more yknow

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rather than liked more

flint wagon
#

and if there is a channel the conversations are disorganized

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and it will be hard to track down which meme another is talking about

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But if we do threads and have the unwritten rule of donโ€™t post in a thread where the first message doesnโ€™t have a link to the artworkโ€ฆ

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Then are discussions can be coherent

brazen parcel
#

yea it'd be so much nicer to see the gallery alongside the discussion

flint wagon
#

Whatโ€™s the issue?!

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Whatโ€™s the core flaw in my plan our plan

brazen parcel
#

well the issue is that people voted for a channel

flint wagon
#

uhh

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and how many people voted for threads to finally be used somewhere

odd sail
#

that depends on what the bug says

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;)

clear scaffold
odd sail
#

also I don't see yellow votes still

clear scaffold
#

they are probably gone forever

odd sail
clear scaffold
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i still see them tho

flint wagon
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accidentally votrd yellow then unvoted

onyx matrix
#

wel we have a chance

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we have a week

flint wagon
#

yellow

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yellow lizards should be killed

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and the voters turn to the power of RED!

clear scaffold
spring scarab
#

Rain world two party system

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Rain world two party system

odd sail
#

can't wait for the server to be divided in two by the rain world discord admins

spring scarab
#

Rain world civil war

odd sail
#

big admin

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rules rw discord

spring scarab
#

Wait why wasnโ€™t I reacted to the yellow lizard vote

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Vote deletion slughollow

odd sail
#

I dumped ur ballot into a river

flint wagon
sullen tusk
#

scav-rick will be the new pickle rick

flint wagon
#

Sorry

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option 1 overpowers all other votes

odd sail
#

perms to create threads so i can scav chat please thx

torpid pecan
#

a lotta votes were kil

twilit notch
#

I think we all know who wins

flint wagon
brazen parcel
torpid pecan
#

rigged

flint wagon
#

itโ€™s about 56

torpid pecan
#

they will probably redo the voting

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my vote was deleted too

flint wagon
#

sorry red lizard is truly op

#

This estimate counts the votes for letter and the like

onyx matrix
#

we still have a chance

torpid pecan
#

HOL SHIT

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that was like

flint wagon
torpid pecan
#

a few hours ago right?

onyx matrix
#

no

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it's now

torpid pecan
#

what

onyx matrix
#

yeah

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lol

torpid pecan
#

lemme restard

flint wagon
#

Sorry youโ€™re using canary

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This isnโ€™t real

#

check server announcements

odd sail
#

no this is now

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cry

onyx matrix
#

it's been over 100 for hours

torpid pecan
#

still trash for me

flint wagon
torpid pecan
#

yeah

odd sail
#

cry about it

onyx matrix
#

wtf i restarted discord and it's in single digits?

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????????????????????????????????????????

torpid pecan
#

??

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howmonkwut

odd sail
#

the vote is rigged

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get trolled

onyx matrix
#

it was over 100 fo r hours.

sullen tusk
torpid pecan
sullen tusk
#

whichever one gets to negative first wins

odd sail
#

LOL

wooden sapphire
flint wagon
#

this power

onyx matrix
#

i'm

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well

#

okay

brazen parcel
#

I'm disappointed in the results

onyx matrix
#

?

flint wagon
brazen parcel
#

no

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I'm just disappointed not more people would be interested to see if threads work

onyx matrix
#

genuinely don't know what happened

flint wagon
#

he ate your votes and became stronger for it

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How will you stand aganist him?

brazen parcel
#

staff are waiting for it to work again or will cut the vote short

onyx matrix
#

i had this image

odd sail
#

fake

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not real

onyx matrix
#

real

odd sail
#

hey guys I had this image

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real

brazen parcel
#

lol

sullen tusk
#

finally red getting the recognition it deserves

brazen parcel
#

maybe staff will eventually be happy to do a revote with accurate up to date information

spring scarab
#

average thread fan vs average channel enjoyer

brazen parcel
#

idk I think they're worth a shot

somber creek
#

If people don't wish to give it a shot then so be it
Democracy be like that

sharp quail
#

Facts

sharp quail
robust wasp
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-- d e a t h t o o p t i o n 1 --

pearl sedge
#

so everyones vote for 2 and 3 randomly disappeared but 1s voted just so happened to stay?

sharp quail
#

Someone people still reflect unadjusted voted while others reflect the disappeared voted

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Itโ€™s something to do with discord

robust wasp
brazen parcel
#

w0t

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discor outage

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I also have newfound lack of care about the outcome of the vote

robust wasp
#

why is that?

brazen parcel
#

because haters be hating

wooden sapphire
#

stage 5 acceptance hunterkek

brazen parcel
#

ive also realised exactly whats gonna happen over the next couple of months and its sweet

spiral monolith
#

aight, will make an announcement shortly

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hromph

brazen parcel
#

about the bug?

static thunder
#

yoo we are geting close

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74-144

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we are almost just 1/2 instead of 1/3 agony

robust wasp
#

74 - 26 -16 it says for me

spiral monolith
#

@static thunder can you take a screenshot rn?

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of the votes

wooden sapphire
#

photoshop the votes pls

spiral monolith
#

unedited scremcat

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I'd like one a bit more up to date JAM WHY

static thunder
#

omw

spiral monolith
#

ty :D

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(just like this, but obviously unrefreshed)

static thunder
spiral monolith
#

brilliant thank you

static thunder
#

no problem

spiral monolith
#

there we go

brazen parcel
#

ok everyone this is really important we have a chance again omg

robust wasp
#

reactions: round 2

spiral monolith
#

you don't have to keep discord up now jev :'D but ty that was great

brazen parcel
#

threads are really interesting and they could be a great addition to the server

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they allow people to decide whether they want to see the channel or not, they give adjustable splitscreen, searches and pins as normal

wooden sapphire
#

so option 1 would have to get ~70 + the number of new yellow votes?

brazen parcel
#

yea ;v

wooden sapphire
robust wasp
#

rigged voting

spiral monolith
#

so bad

brazen parcel
#

im gonna post my argument for option 1 once more in here since this is the place to discuss that :3

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  1. a thread can be closed regardless of other muted channels for people who dont want the extra channel but want to be able to click other muted channels
  2. a thread will be more on topic than a channer because itll be attached to the gallery and slightly less accessible for randos who would enter it to spam offtopic
  3. people get to use split screen on it AND THERE IS RESIZING
  4. its far safer than creating a channel because it can easily be replaced with a channel if discord ruins threads somehow

a lot of the hate for threads comes from that people are entirely unfamilliar with them, but i feel like meme-discussion would be the perfect opportunity for people to find out they work (or easily just replace it with a channel if people really keep hating it)

threads are perfect because media has a max length, so you can have the thread max size and see the images in full quality next to it

robust wasp
#

vote option worm pond

static thunder
#

vote option 1 pog

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also

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i find ironic that the image gwyn posted has my vote option lol

wide coral
#

Proof that threads work on mobile:

static thunder
#

that wont influence ppl huntersmug

wide coral
brazen parcel
#

see :D

wide coral
#

Vote option 1

static thunder
#

they work, just cant splitscreen

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vote option 1

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a glimmer of hope

brazen parcel
#

this will be a really good way to show that the snowball effect is in play

static thunder
#

yeah

#

also

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gwyn posted my image to show the bug, but it displays my lizardred voting, and ppl is easily influenced and follow the mayorty slugevil

sharp quail
#

The army will arrive soon

static thunder
#

probably

brazen parcel
#

but thats the thing jam theres no army

spiral monolith
#

lol

static thunder
#

lol, lets see how it ends

spiral monolith
#

at least the two most popular options are very similar

static thunder
#

yeah

spiral monolith
#

it's just very shady rip

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not what you want for a community vote

somber creek
static thunder
spiral monolith
#

a bit more confusion and a bit more "ehh"

static thunder
#

democracy issue slugpensive

brazen parcel
#

(bear in mind 70 odd extra lizardyellow votes will still be added at the end, its not like everythings just randomly swung)

spiral monolith
#

next time everyone should DM garracks with their choice

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foolproof

brazen parcel
#

i just feel like its interesting that now that people who are spending time in the server are decently informed on how threads actually work, the vote looks completely different

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lol

spiral monolith
#

I can't believe it only took two sets of votes

somber creek
wide coral
#

Pollmaster or something like that

spiral monolith
#

yess we may use a bot in the future

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Imagine this happening where the options are super divisive and controversial slugsweateyes

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it's just always nice I thought to see the counts as they progress, feels very involved

spiral monolith
wide coral
#

Can lead to bias though

spiral monolith
#

true

hazy ledge
#

Senate is neat.

somber creek
#

Laura is going on a full on presidential campaign of RW

hazy ledge
#

Placed it in the arena disc too.

somber creek
#

This is the first step towards full power

#

Then all shall be movement

hazy ledge
#

Yes yes

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The 6 movement stones.

sharp quail
#

Resist ๐Ÿ™Œ

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We will not falter

hazy ledge
#

Threads are good. garrakx

spiral monolith
brazen parcel
#

(if we prove threads work i could imagine an arena thread in #movement)

hazy ledge
#

โ€ฆsign me up

brazen parcel
#

in the distant future

hazy ledge
#

Good thing I already voted.

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This feels kind of like bribery tho?

brazen parcel
#

people didnt know how threads work

hazy ledge
#

Never said I was against bribery.

brazen parcel
#

soon they will

spiral monolith
#

oh if there's demand for an arena thread we could try that out slugtuch

hazy ledge
spiral monolith
#

threads are easy to set up

hazy ledge
#

I exclusively use discord mobile and Iโ€™ve never had a problem with threads.

pearl sedge
#

i think they were changed on mobile recently

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used to have to open up a new menu, now its just there with the channels

hazy ledge
#

Yea, slotted right under the respective channel.

brazen parcel
#

yeah lovely

hazy ledge
#

Pleases my nonexistent ocd.

rose gale
#

What is this accursed place I have stumbled upon

granite hawk
#

funny place

sharp quail
#

option 2 army

hazy ledge
#

*option 1

static thunder
#

aristocracy

onyx matrix
#

get real

#

we are fighting a losing battle

cloud quartz
#

oh hormph voting got reset?

meager snow
#

rw memes senate

tired oracle
#

Lmao I love that this has become a genuine issue

static thunder
#

lol

tired oracle
#

I honestly completely agree though

#

I used to put a lot of effort into edits and sometimes they would just get buried like immediately which was kind of lame IMO

#

Truly an amazing example of illustrating how memes have become their own artform

torpid pecan
tired oracle
#

Anyway both option 1 and 2 are equally fine to me idrc but I feel like it needs to be at least one of them

spring scarab
#

same honestly option 1 and 2 are nearly identical. i just chose 2 because I know and trust channels.

static thunder
onyx matrix
#

threads are only good because "well it might work"

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and i am willing to try

sharp quail
#

FORWARD!

thin ember
#

would it not work to just redirect people to general when stuff gets off topic? or make a rule for the meme channe saying only on topic discussions allowed?

#

prob been suggested already but im not scrolling thru everything to check lmao

wooden pilot
#

the issue is that it happens on such a regular basis that it begins to get impossible to moderate it

tepid canyon
#

how do u actually make the thread smaller on desktop
OH FOUND IT

muted jolt
#

Slug

brazen parcel
#

well im glad to see that a full vote period of like a day can lead to more people who actually want threads than people who dont, its a shame this vote will be added to the previous one, which i feel was a little unfair under some thread misinfo, but oh well

#

if this has shown anything its that vote snowballing is a hell of a thing and so discord reacts dont really work for that

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(its also shown that the consensus isnt sure whether they want a channel or thread so we should try out both haha see lol heh)

clear scaffold
#

or that just people who voted yellow have not voted again slugloaf

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since there are some many votes missing

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almost 90 votes missing for just yellow

undone totem
#

huh didnt know you can # threads

quick marsh
#

it fails if thread name contains a channel name

clear scaffold
#

did you know you can't edit threads? if you make them private you cannot make them public later on

undone totem
#

amazing

clear scaffold
#

happened to me when i was trying to use threads for the server

undone totem
#

sounds like a great feature to implement for meme discussion

brazen parcel
#

idk how often do y'all actually need to make pre-established channels private here? seems like that never happens

brazen parcel
#

almost like they just clicked the higher number and now it's clear that both options are equally desired in the democratic system and so both should be implemented for a period to see what people prefer slugtroll

clear scaffold
#

they dont have descriptions and they need to inherit all permissions from the parent channel

brazen parcel
#

what I'm saying is a discussion like this is one of the main places threads seem to be useful

#

I'm not saying everything should be threads

clear scaffold
#

im not saying that we shouldn't use threads at all either

brazen parcel
#

nice

clear scaffold
#

but just because something is "new" and has a split-screen feature doesn't justify losing a bunch of features that regular channels have

brazen parcel
#

what bunch of features do you need for a meme discussion channel? also have you seen my list it's more than just split screen

clear scaffold
#

yeah, i have seen your list posted 1000 times

#

all the features that i listed, that make the discussion feature proof and make sure we don't lose the chat history if we wanna make any changes

brazen parcel
#

then you can see I'm also very interested in people being able to close the thread while still being able to click other muted channels, and also I think the small step required to go in there will help a lot to stop randos going in thinking it's just a random meme place and posting offtopic

#

also the fact that we can replace the thread with a channel if something goes wrong, it will remain archived and searchable

#

no random chat history will be lost because it'll still be searchable with the rest of #rw-meme-discussion history

#

threads have separate pins, they work on mobile cuz I'm typing this in a thread in mobile

#

they seem to work fine and really well for the purpose of focussed side-discussion

cloud quartz
#

so when will the voting actually be over? slugsitt

brazen parcel
#

in like a week

clear scaffold
#

they are intended for discussing a specific topic, not a broad-channel topic, they are meant to be temporal, and all of those things you listed are kinda of artificial benefits, it will not help people being off-topic and not really out weight the fact that they are harder to see, harder to edit and harder to manage

#

(that's my opinion)

brazen parcel
#

doesn't really matter what they're meant for, because they seem to work well for this

clear scaffold
#

well it really does matter since they are constructed to be temporal

brazen parcel
#

the benefits might be small but imo they outweigh the benefits of a new channel

clear scaffold
#

just look at the auto-archive

brazen parcel
#

they aren't constructed for that because they're archived and infinite duration

clear scaffold
#

they are literally built to be temporal

brazen parcel
#

I really feel like they're worth a try

cloud quartz
#

I've seen a bunch of threads be cast into the void before

clear scaffold
#

we are trying threads right now in the server

brazen parcel
#

there isn't really risk to trying them out because again they get archived and remain searchable in the original channel

clear scaffold
#

did you notice it?

brazen parcel
#

yes

#

modding support

cloud quartz
#

I don't touch modding support so monkforbidden

clear scaffold
#

wanna check how many people entered the thread?

brazen parcel
#

I think meme discussion is an even more effective use for them

cloud quartz
#

I don't see the worth in trying out threads, nor even really creating a new channel for rw memes

brazen parcel
#

plus the thread can be linked in the description of the gallery

cloud quartz
#

I don't agree with any changes needing to be made personally

clear scaffold
#

that's fine

#

did you vote?

brazen parcel
#

I just think a new channel for discussing memes is gonna be awful to moderate

cloud quartz
#

yeah I voted option 2

brazen parcel
#

it might be worth trying a thread out first

clear scaffold
#

how is it harder to moderate a channel when it is literally the opposite

brazen parcel
#

given all the benefits I've said

brazen parcel
clear scaffold
#

how

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just because they are less visible?

brazen parcel
clear scaffold
#

i dont understand that argument

brazen parcel
#

the thread will be less possible for newbies to mistake for a random offtopic meme channel

cloud quartz
#

me neither

brazen parcel
cloud quartz
#

why not just rename the channel something else

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boom all the newbies just post their stuff somewhere else because its not named memes anymore

clear scaffold
#

there is nothing in a thread that makes them less prone to be off topic

brazen parcel
#

what I'm saying is we don't need a channel for discussing memes, it'll be bloated and hard to keep ontopic

clear scaffold
#

well you are knot arguing why tho

#

it might be possible

brazen parcel
#

at the very most we can try out a thread for it, because I think it'd help

clear scaffold
#

but i don't see how that would not happen in a thread as well

cloud quartz
#

I think most people would just not want to use the thread tbh

brazen parcel
#

but yeah there wasn't an option for no discussion channel at all and if there was it wouldn't be voted for

clear scaffold
brazen parcel
brazen parcel
#

that'd be awesome

cloud quartz
#

yeah

#

misc chat is kinda just shitpost land anyways

#

and just chaos

#

and wackiness

brazen parcel
#

it'd be even more effective if there wasn't a random meme discussion channel in the gameplay category

cloud quartz
#

rw memes should be in community

brazen parcel
#

rw meme discussion should be a thread

clear scaffold
#

omg

brazen parcel
#

if it's a channel it's gonna be a mess to moderate

#

and there are plenty of benefits to threads that make it worth at least trying out for a period of time

clear scaffold
#

i think you should give reasons why instead of repeating it over and over it again slugpensive

brazen parcel
#

to see if it works

brazen parcel
cloud quartz
#

the reason I say that threads will barely be used is also because I've seen a lot of threads just be fucking wastelands in other servers too agony

brazen parcel
#

what

#
  1. a thread can be closed regardless of other muted channels for people who dont want the extra channel but want to be able to click other muted channels
  2. a thread will be more on topic than a channer because itll be attached to the gallery and slightly less accessible for randos who would enter it to spam offtopic
  3. people get to use split screen on it AND THERE IS RESIZING
  4. its far safer than creating a channel because it can easily be replaced with a channel if discord ruins threads somehow

a lot of the hate for threads comes from that people are entirely unfamilliar with them, but i feel like meme-discussion would be the perfect opportunity for people to find out they work (or easily just replace it with a channel if people really keep hating it)

threads are perfect because media has a max length, so you can have the thread max size and see the images in full quality next to it

clear scaffold
#

here it is again

clear scaffold
brazen parcel
#

yes

#

because a thread is less accessible to randos who dont read channel descriptions

clear scaffold
#

so gatekeeping

brazen parcel
#

its attached directly to the gallery theyre meant to be talking about

flint wagon
#

doing a hunter run

brazen parcel
#

and thus will keep people ontopic

flint wagon
#

and like iโ€™m doing better

brazen parcel
#

at least a bit better than a channel would

clear scaffold
flint wagon
#

still sometimes make mistakes but I do better I need more situational awareness though

clear scaffold
#

nerdy just proved my point?

flint wagon
#

alot more

clear scaffold
#

threads are as likely to be off topic

flint wagon
brazen parcel
#

how is 1 person being offtopic proof that its not less offtopic

clear scaffold
#

perfect timing

brazen parcel
#

that doesnt make any logical sense

clear scaffold
#

oh you edited

brazen parcel
#

ye

#

again thats not logical

clear scaffold
#

empirical proof the threads get also off topic messages

brazen parcel
#

saying that because something happened once it wont happen less

clear scaffold
#

i didn't say that

brazen parcel
#

i said theyll get less offtopic

#

which is true

#

nerdy is in here because they were talking about threads before

clear scaffold
#

true just because you say so ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

brazen parcel
#

other randos arent in here, and so wont offtopic in here

#

this will happen FAR LESS in a thread

clear scaffold
#

i really dislike the point of making a discussion more obscure for members is an advantage

#

it feels very gatekeeping for me

#

you can just make a private server for that

brazen parcel
#

itll be linked ( #930258321594806342 ) in the channel description, so will be as accessible as required for everyone who reads channel descriptions

#

perfect for meme discussion

cloud quartz
#

but nobody does that so there's no point agony

brazen parcel
#

a lot of people read channel descriptions

#

and once its open its permanent

cloud quartz
#

I think its much better to just, make a role for meme chat so you can access it, change the name so its easier to get what its for and stuff and not make a seperate channel or thread for discussion

brazen parcel
#

im not saying its a perfect system but i am saying itd be a lot better than a meme discussion channel

#

yeah

#

ive been trying to keep rw-memes on topic as a gameplay helper for a long time now and i know a channel is gonna be bad if thats what we get

#

i dont know if a thread will but i think its definitely worth a try

#

thats all im saying

clear scaffold
brazen parcel
#

thats what ive been saying

#

this whole time

cloud quartz
#

I still strongly disagree with you, but I'm not really gonna go into the discussion anymore, I think were all just kinda beating a half rotten horse at this point

brazen parcel
#

ikr

clear scaffold
#

i was getting more the "threads will be better for everything, and I know for sure" vibes

cloud quartz
#

me too

brazen parcel
#

one of my 4 points for the efficacy of threads is "they can be easily replaced with something else"

clear scaffold
#

same with channels

brazen parcel
#

definitely not

clear scaffold
#

how not?

brazen parcel
#

channels dont get archived in nearly as neat a way

cloud quartz
#

you can still archive channers

#

it doesn't matter its not that neat

brazen parcel
#

you cant search for the contents of an archived channel in the channel they were next to

#

perfect for meme discussion

cloud quartz
#

I don't really see the benefits of the channer being archived that way because when will we ever even really need to do that with memes channer

brazen parcel
#

i cant see peeps ever trying out a thread for #art-discussion now its an established channer

cloud quartz
#

If threads were used for a different purpose than rw-memes I think I'd be willing to give it a try but otherwise no

brazen parcel
brazen parcel
#

so the discussion is just for those that want to discuss

#

thats why i feel like a thread will be effective

#

its opt-in

clear scaffold
#

ah yes, the finest discussions will happen in the meme channel

brazen parcel
#

lol ye

#

lets at least give people the option to not have it in their channel bar right

clear scaffold
#

we will give the people what the people vote

#

if threads win, then threads

#

if channel wins, then channel

brazen parcel
#

idk i still think that its worth trying out both to really actually see how they both work out

rocky grail
#

both at once would result in the thread getting zero use

brazen parcel
#

yeah one at a time