#rw memes senate
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tru 
rrrr okay
28 i think
i don't see how having a thread is going to change really anything, but i guess it doesn't hurt to try it out 
^^^
i guess i've also just
seen threads as a pointless dumb addition that discord screams at you about
i dont play that since 2018 lol
Very important clan
"we cant even stay on topic on a thread on a chat"
this is ontopic
we were talking about alternate formats for rain world community content
Factual
Join the clan you get free elder !!!
Yes
LOL
five pebbles in 18 questions
"Character Already Played 75 Times"
is slugcat tubby?
oh shit
wrong chat
how did i ended here lol
teleportation, (literally)
well i go back to wher i should be

Question, if #misc-spoilers was a thing, what would it change to #vanilla-spoilers? What I mean is - what out of what is allowed there currently might not be anymore because it should instead be in #misc-spoilers?
probably nothing
nothing
I hope 
why would it
threads are awful on mobile
discord mobile sucks

Well
One day isn't that Short i'd say
TRUE
i mean, most of my hate for threads comes from them never being used
i still think that the no search specifically is a bit sucky
but we could try
when will the democracy start?
when staff get time
#threadmemechat
lol
is that bad?
i even react with a
to myself most of the time for no aparent reason
yeah
it back
ping them
Vote option one today!
YES
- a thread can be closed regardless of other muted channels for people who dont want the extra channel but want to be able to click other muted channels
- a thread will be more on topic than a channer because itll be attached to the gallery and slightly less accessible for randos who would enter it to spam offtopic
- people get to use split screen on it AND THERE IS RESIZING
- its far safer than creating a channel because it can easily be replaced with a channel if discord ruins threads somehow
a lot of the hate for threads comes from that people are entirely unfamilliar with them, but i feel like meme-discussion would be the perfect opportunity for people to find out they work (or easily just replace it with a channel if people really keep hating it)
rw memes senate
incoherent screeching and spinning
All people have to do is ignore the options and hit
meme discussion threads best option
no that's not good
or read all this great info on how they actually work
if they don't know what they're voting for what's the point
Yeah
threads are a bit tricky on phone but they're still the better option i think
#TeamOption2Unite
A lot of people are just not used to them so they vote the other way, which is sad
public votes are a shitty concept anyway, the mods should just do what's best and then listen to feedback
ikr
they significantly delay the pace of progress too
option 2 is for old retired people who are unable to change
whatever happens, I still think a starboard for rw-memes would be a wonderful option. But yeah rw-memes should change anyway so...
Why not both ?
threads are the f u t u r e 
wow! there's one less vote for 2!
WAIT THREADS HAVE PINS
Trueee
only about 100 to go for our side and we win!
WE'VE BEEN LIED TO
what...?
that's it #vote1
you didn't know that??
i was told they didnt lmao
#vote1
#NoToThreads
there sliterally a button
#ThreadsRBoomers
what option do I vote for
YE :O
#yestothreads

just want to make people angry vote 1
vote 1
wth
vote option 1 it's good
Also threads are perfect because images have a Max lenght, so you can have it like this and it will work perfectly becasue #rw-meme-discussion is only used for images
YEP
i think laure is getting paid by discord so we use threads
why is there a worm pond chain
vote option 66: ban everyone from the server
angriest result
nah discord sucks
ok 
nah threads are just weird channels
revote exit poll:
this image should be placed instead of the one we have in the poll at #server-announcements
fight me 
As the person who lobbied to get the memes channel integrated I say Vote 4 Option 4. Have 3 channels. You can never have enough memes.
3 channels? you are crazy. Let's have 5 channels
So what are the vote options
meme-showcase, meme-gallery, meme-support, meme-n-tech
Hmm
and meme-releases
theyre in #server-announcements but vote 1
LOL NO VOTES FOR 
memovement 
everyone needs to read this
and this
gallery channel + discussion thread , gallery channel + disscussion channel or the same but a bot moves memes to a 2nd channel
the new channel (option 2) would allow to expand the channel topic to be more relaxed, so you can post this gif without getting in trouble
same with threads i think
so will the thread
same with threads but worse
far better
as outlined here
rwmemes becomes a gallery with either a thread or channel for discussion, or rwmemes stays the same witha starboard.
vote 1 it's worth trying
and here
can we make a thread for #vanilla-art-galleryโ
to discuss the art then
please ?
we also wanted to make that
thatd be awesome
but you said the opposite thing of what I said in point 2
what is #art-discussion for
on topic meme discussion looks like that
have you ever been in art-discussion for more than 3 seconds
posting this sorta thing
also if we use threads we would be pioneers
, maybe it gets popular among all servers on discord, who knows 
Don't threads have notifs for each message though?
no
no
ioneers
by off topic i think laura meant not rw
they almost never talk about art-gallery in there
ioneers lol 
I remember that being a thing in smaller channels, maybe they changed it idk.
Hmmm
yeah
HMMMM
yeah but at least they talk about art
vote all you want, we are going abmin abuse all the way and just go for option 4, no more rw memes
(they should talk about gallery more though)
All I know is that my gut says maybe

Why would you have all notifications on?
cmon option 1 won't hurt (it's losing anyways)
No more funny rain world is ENTIRELY SERIOUS
option 4: leave it as it is, but have torbie pin good memes
I didn't, I just remember that I had to manually turn it off.
why would I pin good memes
true, but the channel constantly consist of things getting burried sadly
how
yeah
dab back then was as cringe as amogus now i guess
someone active with art background
dabbing in 2022 just gives you the "how do you do fellow kids" aura that's so potent you can knock someone out
JUST ADD A BOT TO PIN MEMES WITH ENOUGH REACTIONS REGARDLESS OF HOW THE VOTE TURNS OUT, JEEZ
same as amogus
Several years later
So if I'm correct, the way options 2 and 1 work is that in the chat based options rw-memes can technically function the same as it does now, with a separate option to post memes in a place they won't get buried?
global starboard for server when
yes ish
but a designated pinner to blame for all bad thing is a good idea, just gotta find someone who wants to do it
Also
I'm oversimplifying but I think that's the idea.
You can change notifications
YES A BOT
Yeah I know it's not doing it now I just remember it used to do that.
with more people posting high quality memes in a gallery the discussion will shift towards chilling out talking about the memes and reposting
a bot can't have opinions
The notifs don't bother me, they just might turn other people off from the idea.
ok I do need to say quickly before -
do people even listen to what I've said
dabs were definitely as strong as amogus in 2017
โฆ
Yeah I was just misunderstanding this.
hey axo
if not stronger
It pins stuff depending on reactions
because politicians were doing them
yeah but it should only be pin reacts and even then if it's a repost then it shouldn't be pinned
with this ==> ๐
.
sometimes stol;en memes get ๐
mmm yeah that's another problem
imagine politiciants doing amogus sus
What would they even do.
but if not enough people see the thing, it won't get as many reactions as a worse but more popular meme, so you need someone trustworthy with a lot of spare time to pin objectively good memes
same thing happened with pokimon go
hell on earth
Just recreate their own versions of the jerma sus face?
my opponent is looking kinda sussy
there's already someone who pins stuff, maybe they can filter the bad ones ?
could someone change the image that shows how threads can be displayed with one with a larger chat and smaller images because images actually have a lenght limit, so it wont make sense to have a chat as small as the one you are showing, giving the impression for those who didnt tried it that is impossible to change the size or something 

we could consider this, yes
but wouldn't "vote out'
which is why
you still make rw-memes as a galery
option 4: leave it as it is, but have torbie jevmen pin good memes
hell no
option 5 just make radek do it
give me full control of pinning memes
I really don't care either way, I've just noticed that on discord when people face anything that even slightly hinders their experience to post memes they have a heart attack.
i agree to be enslaved and only live to move memes
yeah gie it to perr
I hate memes
then what are you doing here voting

gie
???
you should
gie
to bed
its 15
yeah it is called siesta
the poor vote
buncha people misinformed about how epic and useful threads are
they clearly havent read
this epic information:
- a thread can be closed regardless of other muted channels for people who dont want the extra channel but want to be able to click other muted channels
- a thread will be more on topic than a channer because itll be attached to the gallery and slightly less accessible for randos who would enter it to spam offtopic
- people get to use split screen on it AND THERE IS RESIZING
- its far safer than creating a channel because it can easily be replaced with a channel if discord ruins threads somehow
a lot of the hate for threads comes from that people are entirely unfamilliar with them, but i feel like meme-discussion would be the perfect opportunity for people to find out they work (or easily just replace it with a channel if people really keep hating it)
also threads are perfect because media has a max length, so you can have it like this and it will work perfectly because rw-memes is only used for media
huh split screen
now that's epic
and it doesn't reset when you switch channels
option 2 to da moon
I've seen only two people vote for two which is another proof that 2 voters are just bots

The post above is a bot
smh jam
When all 3 are changes
what are we voting about?
The only one issue with threads is that people have to actually search for and join them, which isn't automatic unless they're specifically pinged in the thread. People less familiar with them won't find it super obvious, so you'd have to constantly insist their existence. Generally when you create a thread in a channel, the notification for that appears in the channel and you can click on that. This of course gets buried with frequent posts and if you aren't joined in the thread already, you'd have to either get pinged in it or join manually here.
whether to use a thread or channel for the new rw meme discussion
people can always click the link too
anywhere in the server
Thread
then you can vote in #server-announcements
as threads can allow you to focus in on specific meme
Perhaps that could be in the start of the #rw-meme-discussion description too.
Did they reset?
true yeah
although in my experience, a lot of people don't tend to read descriptions 
What did you vote? laura?
i voted for threads like all the informed epic people

Awesome
#vote2
Trolled
good ending
at least when its a gallery there wont be any grey space between off and ontopic
True
Axo what did you vote for
everyone voted option 1 huh I guess we are discord savvy!
all, so that there's a minimum of one option ticked at any time
Top 5 useless features in discord
- Discord Store
- Stickers
- Threads
- Channel descriptions
- Discord nft
will deselect tactically at the end
what would you vote axo?
threads are actually very good
destroy and kill and attack and
heres why^
honestly trying out threads w the split view feels pretty nice
probably option 1 or 2, I'd be worried that starboard would be too much work for everyone
yeah kip you should vote 1 :)
i did 
heck yeah :)
:(
Iโm sorry threads allow you to make a sub channel for big important discussions
starboard would be nice, regardless of which vote it turns out to win
and allow for easy reference of long useful conversations
what even is discord store
yeah
starboard would do nothing to fix clutter in the channel and just would be Another channel for the server list
so if you're gonna add an entire new channel may as well just make #meme-discussion right?
yeah so that's why you do it on top of another vote 
back in like 2018-19 discord was trying to turn into a digital game store
that's the entire reason why there are two versions of nitro
the more expensive version originally gave you free access to all of the games offered
yeah
Which should honestly be included without nitro
Ripoff
Not even the 5 dollar one gets you a banner
Where did all the vote go I saw so many more a few hours ago
No clue
Holy shit why is red now seemingly winning by a landslide
yeah it was rigged from the start we should get a thread
there's still 120 for me
i have no idea why you're seeing that, yellow has >100 for me
For me it's only 3 too
mobile discord moment mayhaps
Yeah I'm on mobile
lizard people rigging the elections???????

uuuh ??
also i feel like discussion about this is pointless anyway bc i don't think option 1 will overtake option 2
why are you seeing only 3
ever
Where is the wave I put in voting :(
there ought to be a revote to show how many of the
votes were misinformed then
just because it probably wont win doesnt mean we cant discuss it no?
the post represents threads in a very bad light imo
option 1 coup
showing people the facts about threads has changed a lot of peoples minds ngl
"alright yeah x option is gonna win better pack it up everybody"
Delete 1 votes
omw
discussing it means more people can see the pros and cons of each option and therefore make more informed choices 
im working on a change.org petition and a google doc outlining the issues with the vote
exactly :)
Time to well inform everyone about option 2
#vote1
#teamMouth
YES
what some lame channel
that's the most useless war I've ever seen and I'm ๐ฟ for it
Who did you vote for
Lame thread
team mouth
most people won't see this
Consumed
i will just vote the option with the most votes all the time
so i always win
why did so many people vote for 2 then
most people think threads are dumb
Misinformation
that's true
ah well
tbf i dont blame them for thinking that because threads were rolled out pretty awfully from what i remember
you should've made a quiz about all the options, and only allow people who pass to vote
but i think they could be genuinely useful here
Not wanting =/= misinformation
The misinformation campaign is misinformation
I caught yall on 4k
i dont really care much about the memes channel specifically but i figure that if threads work successfully here they could be implemented well in other places in the server
like what gar is trying with the FAQ thread in modding support
personally, I just dont like threads from a moderating perspective. They cannot be easily edited (for example, change a private thread into a public ) and any changes we make will likely result in losing the chat history ๐คทโโ๏ธ
so i think the safe choice is a regular channel, which it is more future proof
also thanks 
if discord decides to improve threads in the future then good
Yes i like improvement too
very fair points
i forgot that threads sucked!!!
idc who wins, I just want a starboard of memes
it will be the same but instead of a bot, we will use human labor to pin memes
rain world server breaking labour laws 
just develop giant supercalculators to do it for you
literally rain world in irl life
the cycle of pinning the same "slugcat irl" gif every week 
split screen thread remain highlighted in the sidebar even if you are caught up with it
horrible
rrrrrr
but w h y
just use a bot that pins depending on reactions it's better
if only we could convince the
and
people
i think they are joking
having a laugh if you will
a little haha if you rather
human labour is better so you can selectively skip unfunny memes that get pin reactions
rain world server elitism 
ok then are you volunteering
ok
perr would never pin anything 
wtf i was looking for an example meme to post and say i would pin it but all the good memes got sent to #pins
lol
what a wonderful reason to have a starboard uh ?
grugboard
ok my opinion on the voting options
option 1 is bad. threads don't work like they should (although you guys may disagree) and most memes won't even get threads anyway.
option 2 is easily the worst option here. art discussion works because it's a reaction to something that was created with the intent to impress others and be discussed. memes on the other hand (especially shitposts) tend to have few actual points of discussion and thus we'll end up with a situation where we have more memes than discussion occuring
option 3 is ok. it would involve rw-memes functioning as normal and having a starboard for particularly good ones. this would at least incentivize making better memes to get onto the starboard
option 4 is a worse option 3.
i would personally prefer an option 5, which is:
- rw-memes stays as is
- users can upload their memes to a #meme-gallery channel so that they can be viewed without being buried by discussion
- the starboard from option 3 also remains, but it contains the 5-10 highest reacted memes of the month
the additional issue with threads (option 1) is that if there's no discussion for a week, the entire thread will permanently close and delete everyone's messages. (not good)
option 6 just move misc-chat next to rw-memes
gugborg
itll be a permanent thread
it wont be a thread per meme
thanks for your input gwyn. very thought-provoking
option 8. rw-memes and misc-chat are both removed. no more memes, period
the good ending
option 9 : bring #scavs back
theyre the latest movement tech 
i'm not that gullible (and i do look at #movement enough to know you're lying)
it's gat
it's a deformation of "cta", which is a deformation of "cat"
if i really was trying to get you i wouldnt have put the

Mee6 nukes the votes
MEE6 promoting bad features once again
mee6 nft
Alright we're going to wait an hour and see what happens
I can't believe an outage rigged the vote
you can always ping them ๐
i wish more people were openminded about threads
yeaa option 2 is gonna be a shame
not much, seems like reacts are broke at the mo
but staff have the values that it was before the bug
this is what I see so yeah this is broke
oh if you screenshot staff can see that
want to send a screenie yea?
Gongaga
it's the same for me ๐ค is it broken for a lot of people?
its broken for everyone who refreshes discord
It's not that bad
Not that big of a difference between one and two
Personnally i voted for both because they both are so similar
^
itd be a shame to lose out on all those
i feel like most people didnt know about these before voting so it feels like a bit of a waste of democracy
Respect the vote!
I still only see 13 option 2 votes 

Eh
Pretty minor things imo
Only real big plus is split screen
and muting
Remember everyone choose option 1
If not youโre seriously arenโt based
No pressureโฆ
lol
now's a really good option to try out threads yall
and there's no pressure if we try it and it doesn't work cuz it's so easy to replace with a channel
how do you split screen threads
nvm found it
and wow this is very cool
(I'm not a paid actor)
I'd say that's the most minor benefit
To start a thread the message starting it should contain the link to the meme
if it doesnโt we shouldnโt post in the thread
it'll be a permanent thread linked in the gallery description
threads are permeanent
you can always post in them to unarchive them
well unless the user deletes it
but what I said should be an unwritten rule
laura do you think what I said is a good idea?
yes
sadly I think too many people have written off the idea of threads before trying them out so we probably won't get one
Maybe itโs because itโs a relatively new rarely used feature
yeah
since the main issue with threads is that people are unfamiliar with it, wouldn't it be better to mash up options 1 and 2, having a rw-discussion-thread and the channel next to it, then over time if the thread gets more usage the separate channel can be thrown into the void?
no
welp
threads are here
well
and when discussion fails
i don't think staff would want to do that
someone can ask how the unwritten rules work
Only because people are to lazy to male threads
and if there is a channel the conversations are disorganized
and it will be hard to track down which meme another is talking about
But if we do threads and have the unwritten rule of donโt post in a thread where the first message doesnโt have a link to the artworkโฆ
Then are discussions can be coherent
yea it'd be so much nicer to see the gallery alongside the discussion
My plan is simple letโs not just dream letโs all agree to this unwritten rule and this dream will be a reality
Whatโs the issue?!
Whatโs the core flaw in my plan our plan
well the issue is that people voted for a channel
also I don't see yellow votes still
they are probably gone forever
:|
i still see them tho

can't wait for the server to be divided in two by the rain world discord admins
Rain world civil war
I dumped ur ballot into a river
If hunter sides with yellow red will eat em with the power of the truth

scav-rick will be the new pickle rick

Sorry
option 1 overpowers all other votes
perms to create threads so i can scav chat please thx
a lotta votes were kil
I think we all know who wins
added up all the other votes
this
rigged
itโs about 56
sorry red lizard is truly op

This estimate counts the votes for letter and the like
we still have a chance
WHAT?!
a few hours ago right?
what
lemme restard
it's been over 100 for hours
yeah
cry about it
wtf i restarted discord and it's in single digits?
????????????????????????????????????????
it was over 100 fo r hours.
voting is going backwards

whichever one gets to negative first wins
LOL
the guy who reacted with random emotes
This is why the red lizard isnโt afraid of vultures
this power
I'm disappointed in the results
?
You betrayed red?
no
I'm just disappointed not more people would be interested to see if threads work
genuinely don't know what happened
red ate yellow
he ate your votes and became stronger for it
How will you stand aganist him?
discord bug
staff are waiting for it to work again or will cut the vote short
i had this image
real
lol
finally red getting the recognition it deserves
maybe staff will eventually be happy to do a revote with accurate up to date information
idk I think they're worth a shot
If people don't wish to give it a shot then so be it
Democracy be like that
Facts
-- d e a t h t o o p t i o n 1 --
so everyones vote for 2 and 3 randomly disappeared but 1s voted just so happened to stay?
Someone people still reflect unadjusted voted while others reflect the disappeared voted
Itโs something to do with discord
laura has invited you to lake laogai
w0t
discor outage
I also have newfound lack of care about the outcome of the vote
why is that?
because haters be hating
stage 5 acceptance 
ive also realised exactly whats gonna happen over the next couple of months and its sweet
about the bug?
74 - 26 -16 it says for me
photoshop the votes pls
omw
brilliant thank you
no problem
there we go
ok everyone this is really important we have a chance again omg
reactions: round 2
you don't have to keep discord up now jev :'D but ty that was great
threads are really interesting and they could be a great addition to the server
they allow people to decide whether they want to see the channel or not, they give adjustable splitscreen, searches and pins as normal
so option 1 would have to get ~70 + the number of new yellow votes?
yea ;v

rigged voting
so bad
im gonna post my argument for option 1 once more in here since this is the place to discuss that :3
- a thread can be closed regardless of other muted channels for people who dont want the extra channel but want to be able to click other muted channels
- a thread will be more on topic than a channer because itll be attached to the gallery and slightly less accessible for randos who would enter it to spam offtopic
- people get to use split screen on it AND THERE IS RESIZING
- its far safer than creating a channel because it can easily be replaced with a channel if discord ruins threads somehow
a lot of the hate for threads comes from that people are entirely unfamilliar with them, but i feel like meme-discussion would be the perfect opportunity for people to find out they work (or easily just replace it with a channel if people really keep hating it)
threads are perfect because media has a max length, so you can have the thread max size and see the images in full quality next to it
vote option worm pond
vote option 1 pog
also
i find ironic that the image gwyn posted has my vote option lol
Proof that threads work on mobile:
that wont influence ppl 
see :D
Vote option 1
this will be a really good way to show that the snowball effect is in play
yeah
also
gwyn posted my image to show the bug, but it displays my
voting, and ppl is easily influenced and follow the mayorty 
The army will arrive soon
probably
but thats the thing jam theres no army
lol
lol, lets see how it ends
at least the two most popular options are very similar
yeah
Thanks, discord

a bit more confusion and a bit more "ehh"
democracy issue 
(bear in mind 70 odd extra
votes will still be added at the end, its not like everythings just randomly swung)
i just feel like its interesting that now that people who are spending time in the server are decently informed on how threads actually work, the vote looks completely different
lol
I can't believe it only took two sets of votes
and then discord imploded again
Actually though there's a bot for voting that has vote count hiding function
Pollmaster or something like that
yess we may use a bot in the future
Imagine this happening where the options are super divisive and controversial 
it's just always nice I thought to see the counts as they progress, feels very involved
if it happens again I will screem
Can lead to bias though
true
Ikr
threads good btw
threads good
Senate is neat.
Laura is going on a full on presidential campaign of RW
Placed it in the arena disc too.
Threads are good. 
me
โฆsign me up
in the distant future
Never said I was against bribery.
soon they will
oh if there's demand for an arena thread we could try that out 

threads are easy to set up
I exclusively use discord mobile and Iโve never had a problem with threads.
i think they were changed on mobile recently
used to have to open up a new menu, now its just there with the channels
Yea, slotted right under the respective channel.
yeah lovely
Pleases my nonexistent ocd.
funny place
option 2 army
*option 1
aristocracy
oh hormph voting got reset?
rw memes senate
Lmao I love that this has become a genuine issue
lol
I honestly completely agree though
I used to put a lot of effort into edits and sometimes they would just get buried like immediately which was kind of lame IMO
Truly an amazing example of illustrating how memes have become their own artform

Anyway both option 1 and 2 are equally fine to me idrc but I feel like it needs to be at least one of them
same honestly option 1 and 2 are nearly identical. i just chose 2 because I know and trust channels.

agreed
threads are only good because "well it might work"
and i am willing to try
FORWARD!
would it not work to just redirect people to general when stuff gets off topic? or make a rule for the meme channe saying only on topic discussions allowed?
prob been suggested already but im not scrolling thru everything to check lmao
the issue is that it happens on such a regular basis that it begins to get impossible to moderate it
how do u actually make the thread smaller on desktop
OH FOUND IT
Slug
well im glad to see that a full vote period of like a day can lead to more people who actually want threads than people who dont, its a shame this vote will be added to the previous one, which i feel was a little unfair under some thread misinfo, but oh well
if this has shown anything its that vote snowballing is a hell of a thing and so discord reacts dont really work for that
(its also shown that the consensus isnt sure whether they want a channel or thread so we should try out both haha see lol heh)
or that just people who voted yellow have not voted again 
since there are some many votes missing
almost 90 votes missing for just yellow
it fails if thread name contains a channel name
did you know you can't edit threads? if you make them private you cannot make them public later on
amazing
happened to me when i was trying to use threads for the server
idk how often do y'all actually need to make pre-established channels private here? seems like that never happens
seems rather wild that suddenly a bunch of people who seemed to care about getting a channel now aren't that interested at all

almost like they just clicked the higher number and now it's clear that both options are equally desired in the democratic system and so both should be implemented for a period to see what people prefer 
any time you wanna prepare a channel before making it public for example, and it was just an example of how threads work, they are very static, and they are mostly intended to be temporal for very targeted discussion
they dont have descriptions and they need to inherit all permissions from the parent channel
pre-established channels
what I'm saying is a discussion like this is one of the main places threads seem to be useful
I'm not saying everything should be threads
im not saying that we shouldn't use threads at all either
nice
but just because something is "new" and has a split-screen feature doesn't justify losing a bunch of features that regular channels have
what bunch of features do you need for a meme discussion channel? also have you seen my list it's more than just split screen
yeah, i have seen your list posted 1000 times
all the features that i listed, that make the discussion feature proof and make sure we don't lose the chat history if we wanna make any changes
then you can see I'm also very interested in people being able to close the thread while still being able to click other muted channels, and also I think the small step required to go in there will help a lot to stop randos going in thinking it's just a random meme place and posting offtopic
also the fact that we can replace the thread with a channel if something goes wrong, it will remain archived and searchable
no random chat history will be lost because it'll still be searchable with the rest of #rw-meme-discussion history
threads have separate pins, they work on mobile cuz I'm typing this in a thread in mobile
they seem to work fine and really well for the purpose of focussed side-discussion
so when will the voting actually be over? 
in like a week
they are intended for discussing a specific topic, not a broad-channel topic, they are meant to be temporal, and all of those things you listed are kinda of artificial benefits, it will not help people being off-topic and not really out weight the fact that they are harder to see, harder to edit and harder to manage
(that's my opinion)
doesn't really matter what they're meant for, because they seem to work well for this
well it really does matter since they are constructed to be temporal
the benefits might be small but imo they outweigh the benefits of a new channel
just look at the auto-archive
they aren't constructed for that because they're archived and infinite duration
they are literally built to be temporal
I really feel like they're worth a try
I've seen a bunch of threads be cast into the void before
we are trying threads right now in the server
there isn't really risk to trying them out because again they get archived and remain searchable in the original channel
did you notice it?
I don't touch modding support so 
wanna check how many people entered the thread?
I think meme discussion is an even more effective use for them
I don't see the worth in trying out threads, nor even really creating a new channel for rw memes
plus the thread can be linked in the description of the gallery
I don't agree with any changes needing to be made personally
I just think a new channel for discussing memes is gonna be awful to moderate
yeah I voted option 2
it might be worth trying a thread out first
how is it harder to moderate a channel when it is literally the opposite
given all the benefits I've said
because I believe there'll be significantly more offtopic
because there already is in #rw-meme-discussion and if you take out the good memes from #rw-meme-discussion you get a bunch of offtopic
i dont understand that argument
the thread will be less possible for newbies to mistake for a random offtopic meme channel
me neither
which happens a lot in current #rw-meme-discussion
why not just rename the channel something else
boom all the newbies just post their stuff somewhere else because its not named memes anymore
there is nothing in a thread that makes them less prone to be off topic
what I'm saying is we don't need a channel for discussing memes, it'll be bloated and hard to keep ontopic
at the very most we can try out a thread for it, because I think it'd help
but i don't see how that would not happen in a thread as well
I think most people would just not want to use the thread tbh
but yeah there wasn't an option for no discussion channel at all and if there was it wouldn't be voted for
you might be on to something
over half of the people I've talked to want to try it out
yeah like misc-chat
that'd be awesome
yeah
misc chat is kinda just shitpost land anyways
and just chaos
and wackiness
it'd be even more effective if there wasn't a random meme discussion channel in the gameplay category
rw memes should be in community
rw meme discussion should be a thread
omg
if it's a channel it's gonna be a mess to moderate
and there are plenty of benefits to threads that make it worth at least trying out for a period of time
i think you should give reasons why instead of repeating it over and over it again 
to see if it works
you said you've seen my reasons why 1000 times
the reason I say that threads will barely be used is also because I've seen a lot of threads just be fucking wastelands in other servers too 
this
what
- a thread can be closed regardless of other muted channels for people who dont want the extra channel but want to be able to click other muted channels
- a thread will be more on topic than a channer because itll be attached to the gallery and slightly less accessible for randos who would enter it to spam offtopic
- people get to use split screen on it AND THERE IS RESIZING
- its far safer than creating a channel because it can easily be replaced with a channel if discord ruins threads somehow
a lot of the hate for threads comes from that people are entirely unfamilliar with them, but i feel like meme-discussion would be the perfect opportunity for people to find out they work (or easily just replace it with a channel if people really keep hating it)
threads are perfect because media has a max length, so you can have the thread max size and see the images in full quality next to it
here it is again
you just asked to see it
i just said "why is a channel harder to moderate than a thread"
yes
because a thread is less accessible to randos who dont read channel descriptions
so gatekeeping
doing a hunter run
and thus will keep people ontopic
and like iโm doing better
at least a bit better than a channel would
lol!
still sometimes make mistakes but I do better I need more situational awareness though
nerdy just proved my point?
alot more
threads are as likely to be off topic
Okay we can just not post in them
how is 1 person being offtopic proof that its not less offtopic
perfect timing
that doesnt make any logical sense
i never said this
oh you edited
empirical proof the threads get also off topic messages
saying that because something happened once it wont happen less
i didn't say that
i didnt say they wont get offtopic
i said theyll get less offtopic
which is true
nerdy is in here because they were talking about threads before
true just because you say so ๐คทโโ๏ธ
other randos arent in here, and so wont offtopic in here
this will happen FAR LESS in a thread
in a channel itll happen as much as in #rw-meme-discussion
i really dislike the point of making a discussion more obscure for members is an advantage
it feels very gatekeeping for me
you can just make a private server for that
itll be linked ( #930258321594806342 ) in the channel description, so will be as accessible as required for everyone who reads channel descriptions
perfect for meme discussion
but nobody does that so there's no point 
I think its much better to just, make a role for meme chat so you can access it, change the name so its easier to get what its for and stuff and not make a seperate channel or thread for discussion
im not saying its a perfect system but i am saying itd be a lot better than a meme discussion channel
yeah
ive been trying to keep rw-memes on topic as a gameplay helper for a long time now and i know a channel is gonna be bad if thats what we get
i dont know if a thread will but i think its definitely worth a try
thats all im saying
ok that is more fair
I still strongly disagree with you, but I'm not really gonna go into the discussion anymore, I think were all just kinda beating a half rotten horse at this point
ikr
i was getting more the "threads will be better for everything, and I know for sure" vibes
me too
one of my 4 points for the efficacy of threads is "they can be easily replaced with something else"
same with channels
definitely not
how not?
channels dont get archived in nearly as neat a way
you cant search for the contents of an archived channel in the channel they were next to
once meme senate is archived its discussion will still show up in #rw-meme-discussion search
perfect for meme discussion
I don't really see the benefits of the channer being archived that way because when will we ever even really need to do that with memes channer
i cant see peeps ever trying out a thread for #art-discussion now its an established channer
If threads were used for a different purpose than rw-memes I think I'd be willing to give it a try but otherwise no
yeah so the potential for having to private a meme discussion thread isnt that important a flaw
well the gallery is gonna be a gallery anyway
so the discussion is just for those that want to discuss
thats why i feel like a thread will be effective
its opt-in
ah yes, the finest discussions will happen in the meme channel
lol ye
lets at least give people the option to not have it in their channel bar right
we will give the people what the people vote
if threads win, then threads
if channel wins, then channel
idk i still think that its worth trying out both to really actually see how they both work out
both at once would result in the thread getting zero use
yeah one at a time

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