#Is Modding safe

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graceful hollow
deep lance
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thanks gar

sonic cloud
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modding is extremely dangerous, i started modding and now i have no friends

pine pulsar
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thanks gar sorry about talking about my problems in general

graceful hollow
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You can analyze the mods with windows defender

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or any antivirus

timid frost
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I started modding and I lost all my life savings

graceful hollow
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many of the mods are open source (you can see the code for your self online and check their reputation)

pine pulsar
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like i said he blocked the website

dusky kettle
pine pulsar
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so i cant do anything

ashen cape
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i started modding and i lost both me legs!

deep lance
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ask for someone to smuggle the mods through discord trollcat

terse bay
mental niche
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modding is really dangerous

terse bay
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here's a VirusTotal of AutoUpdate.dll, scanned by 67 antiviruses

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all of them say that it's safe

mental niche
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I use modding to commit crimes

vagrant solstice
pine pulsar
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lol

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well i gtg bye

ashen cape
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MODDING is NOT SAFE DO NOT MOD YOU WILL DIE INSTATTLY

dull urchin
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._.

deep lance
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i can confirm i am a room maker and i have long since become brain dead

terse bay
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55/69 antiviruses detect it as malicious

solar furnace
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Modding is heavily dangerous, as it ruins the vision of the creators original game and adds more inflated game time. Everyone who mods their game should be sentenced to death without trial

pine pulsar
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One flora zero brain i think thats what it is

dull urchin
pine pulsar
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he doesnt like game files being tampered with

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i think

deep lance
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dumb

sonic cloud
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some antiviruses flag boi because it's an obscure unsigned exec that moves around dlls
it's obscure because rain world modding is obscure
it moves dlls around because that's required for modloader to work
it isn't signed because i'm lazy forbiddenmonk

pine pulsar
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or he really thinks viruses are everywhere which is stupid

vagrant solstice
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make your own mods

deep lance
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my windows doesnt like drought editor but thats the only modding related thing ive ever had my laptop be pissy about

vagrant solstice
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become andrewfm 2.0 in 15 years

pine pulsar
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lol

deep lance
solar furnace
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I'm kidding lol
Modding games are fine, I do it a fuck ton for Rain World

deep lance
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like sure viruses are everywhere but its usually pretty obvious what websites are malicious

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nothing about raindb is particularly suspicious

solar furnace
pine pulsar
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yeah i know but apparently he cant tell the difference between a site that is bad or good

sonic cloud
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you can send em links to our github pages (applies to most commonly used mods)
if they refuse to look at the code which is open for everyone and keep calling random things malicious just because they feel like it
well
they might as well flip a coin on every app they install lol

smoky hare
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My parents stopped caring about stuff like that when I got my own laptop. That might be a good option for you, since this sounds like a repeat occurrence

pine pulsar
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yeah ill save 850$ to get a new laptop

dull urchin
ashen cape
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Heres an idea, tell him about who manages rainDB

deep lance
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warp effects reality and therefore is a virus. what does it do? teleports you. where? mystery

pine pulsar
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oh no not warp thats my favorite mod

deep lance
terse bay
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if you can convince him that a VM isn't malware then you could also get that and then whatever you install in that it's not going to break out of the VM and damage the computer

ashen cape
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Tell him about the relations between andrewFM, RainDB, and MSC

sonic cloud
pine pulsar
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boss baby i think thats a good idea if i could contact andrewfm

ashen cape
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And tell him the scope of msc

sonic cloud
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LB used warp and now he can't go back home

pine pulsar
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but i dont want to bother him

dusky kettle
solar furnace
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Oh wait is someone else calling modding a virus or something I thought this was just a joke bonk

dull urchin
pine pulsar
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really i dont have to contact andrewfm

terse bay
pine pulsar
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then how would i tell him about the dude who runs the site

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sounds really hard because i dont anything about the dude

deep lance
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well hes in this server so if youre really determined huhok

vagrant solstice
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andrew plays piano

pine pulsar
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if my dad wont listened to the virus scan people who use raindb and me he sure as hell wont listen to the creator of the site

dull urchin
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Can't you show him the RainDB repo ?

vagrant solstice
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like

pine pulsar
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whats a repo

vagrant solstice
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how the site itself is malicious

terse bay
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would he listen to me?

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i wrote a significant amount of the modloader and also a few very important and commonly used mods

pine pulsar
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probably not

terse bay
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._.

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would he listen to anyone at all

dull urchin
pine pulsar
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nope he wants to listen to reviews online

terse bay
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hmm

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well we could write reviews and put them online

timid frost
graceful hollow
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these messages are literally reviews online

pine pulsar
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hes not going to lookup the site to see if its sfe because he caught me "putting mods into the computer"

deep lance
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ah yes the most dangerous thing in the world: video game mods

dull urchin
timid frost
pine pulsar
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Trust me i know that my dads arguement is stupid theres convincing him because he doeesnt trust me i modded my brothers computer without premission and hes to stubborn

dull urchin
vagrant solstice
pine pulsar
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usa

vagrant solstice
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about that hard and long running not so convenient solution

pine pulsar
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what is it

vagrant solstice
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enlist in military and play rw on their computers

hard nexus
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AHHHHH its a thread on rw!

pine pulsar
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thanks for listening to my rant but im going to go play celeste now

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bye

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and thanks for trying to help

vagrant solstice
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cya

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hopefully

deep lance
pine pulsar
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i wont even be able to mod celeste but thats a different story

terse bay
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wow your dad knows absolutely nothing about viruses

pine pulsar
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everest is the site for modding celeste if you were curious

dull urchin
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Yeah I found it while looking on MonoMod github.

deep lance
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huh

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neat

dull urchin
pine pulsar
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i spent 30 bucks on a game just to mod it

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30 bucks wasted

dull urchin
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:(

pine pulsar
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i already have the game but i really want to mod it

dull urchin
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Solution: make your own modloader and then your own mods.

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xD

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I don't think it's possible to make a modloader or even a mod without downloading anything.

terse bay
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it is

dull urchin
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:O

terse bay
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certutil -decodehex can be used without downloading anything to convert a file from hex to bytes

ashen cape
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Bee

terse bay
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and it is theoretically possible to write an executable in hex by hand

pine pulsar
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my question is how can one man be so paranoid about viruses he mustve got exprienced some traumatic event with them

terse bay
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hmm

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you could ask him

dull urchin
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Did someone ever do it ?

terse bay
# terse bay you could ask him

if you get very lucky you might be able to prove to him that actually he shouldn't be this paranoid about viruses, if not then at least you might understand the situation better

pine pulsar
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yeah true

terse bay
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i'd actually be kind of curious to find out what his response is even if it isn't useful

pine pulsar
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okay i will let you know if i have the guts to talk to him

ashen cape
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It is our job as modders not just to make mods, but also to make people play them

sonic cloud
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sounds like business

ashen cape
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I get paid to do this

pine pulsar
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i would play the mod if my dad would stop being stubborn

sonic cloud
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play what mod

ashen cape
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Standalone mods are untraceable

sonic cloud
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standalone mods are pain

pine pulsar
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im not listing them again

sonic cloud
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sure

pine pulsar
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thats probalby why he banned the site

sonic cloud
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raindb huh?

pine pulsar
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when myrmice told me to get a list of all the mods

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thats most likely what caused him to go ballistic

timid frost
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sorry scremcat

pine pulsar
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its not your fault you were trying to help so im not blaming you or anything

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its not like you were trying to make the sitution worse

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at least i hope you didnt intentionally make the sitution worse lol

round wigeon
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i doubt that

pine pulsar
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i know im joking

round wigeon
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just saying lol

timid frost
pine pulsar
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oh no myrmice dont turn evil

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i beg you

timid frost
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i will put a virus in my region

terse bay
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that's not possible

timid frost
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it's too late

terse bay
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too late for it to be impossible?

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you can't put code in a region mod

round wigeon
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a mod that uninstalls rainworld

pine pulsar
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noooooooooooo myrmice turned evil lol

timid frost
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damn my plan failed

pine pulsar
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lol

terse bay
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hmm

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random thing: does your dad have a discord account? since it might be easier to actually get anything to happen if we talk to him directly

pine pulsar
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no

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he should get one and stop using facebook and other untrustworthy sites lol

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and so he could talk to the people who use raindb constantly

round wigeon
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well having a direct talk is better

pine pulsar
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and stop being so stubborn about something he doenst know anything about

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yeah it would

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but i doubt he will do it

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and he might yell at you guys because he cant face the truth

terse bay
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well that would be better than him yelling at you

pine pulsar
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true

ashen cape
pine pulsar
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but i dont want to unleash a fiery dragon into the rw discord because id feel bad

round wigeon
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he must follow the rules to chat here

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one of them is respect all the users

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iirc

pine pulsar
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true

terse bay
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then instead of the rw discord, let him join a separate server dedicated to explaining why not literally every program is a virus

dull urchin
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That means you can.

pine pulsar
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ask all anti virus parents to join that

dull urchin
round wigeon
pine pulsar
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yeah

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knowing him he probalbly thinks discord is a virus

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lol XD

deep lance
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technically you dont have to download it to use it

terse bay
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yeah you can use it from the web

pine pulsar
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i know

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im just making a joke

terse bay
pine pulsar
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He plays world of warcraft just to give an idea what hes like

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and he really wants me to pay to play that game

graceful hollow
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bonding with dad with WoW

pine pulsar
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no never

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that game is so bad

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IMO

terse bay
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i have to go to sleep soon but if tomorrow you can convince him to make an account through the website and join this server it might be interesting to try to convince him that raindb isn't composed entirely of viruses

pine pulsar
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okay bye thanks for chatting with about this sitution

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it was really helpful

terse bay
dull urchin
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:o

round wigeon
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lol

ashen cape
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Woah

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Post a link

terse bay
eternal epoch
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so he installs spyware to watch you

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and then

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still thinks you are doing things he can't see

final berry
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am i allowed to join the server

ashen cape
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No, modding isnt safe doign join!!!!

round wigeon
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if you want to help and convice why modding safe, yes

final berry
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i do want to help but honestly thinking about it more there probably is not much i can add so i will not join

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iam not very good at convincing people either

round wigeon
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i mean nothing stops you from joining neither, but the whole purpose is to help

eternal epoch
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you really think he will make a discord account, and then also join this?

pine pulsar
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he was going to approve the website

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he was mad that i went onto the website i was told not to

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he was going to approve it in 2 days

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He never tells me anything

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ughhhhhhhh

eternal epoch
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you went onto it but didnt download anything?

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honestly like

pine pulsar
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yeah

eternal epoch
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just play WOW with him and make him like u more

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and then try again after a while

pine pulsar
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but he wanted me to go not pn the website

eternal epoch
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i would drop everything now

pine pulsar
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yeah

eternal epoch
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hes obviously not going to say yes at this time

pine pulsar
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yeah

eternal epoch
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how much does WOW cost?

pine pulsar
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to much

final berry
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well to be fair not all websites are safe

i'm not helping i know

eternal epoch
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like 40$?

pine pulsar
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basically hes mad because i dont have patience

eternal epoch
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yea thats a big sign to drop it

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WOW on steam is free i just looked?

pine pulsar
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slugcat is going to bite

ashen cape
eternal epoch
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cat

pine pulsar
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cat

round wigeon
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cta

ashen cape
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Monk

pine pulsar
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this time i will win wish me luck

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bye

eternal epoch
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bye

round wigeon
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i hope you do well

pine pulsar
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its not over till its over

ashen cape
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I get it

eternal epoch
pine pulsar
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sorry ill stop with the whole virus thing now

eternal epoch
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its fine

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but one thing

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so your dad thinks RW is dumb

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and he likes playing WOW

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but hes also fine with you playing Celeste?

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id think he would think celeste is dumb too

final berry
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odd taste in games

pine pulsar
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he doesnt like celeste either because he doesnt like platforming

eternal epoch
sleek snow
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@pine pulsar what? Where do you get the re mod if it had a virus

eternal epoch
eternal epoch
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RW is...special

pine pulsar
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no

round wigeon
eternal epoch
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i love it but its not for many people

pine pulsar
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RW is the best game ever besides celeste

ashen cape
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Celeste is quite the super meatlike

pine pulsar
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he is missing out on the greatest games ever

eternal epoch
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flashbacks to that one celeste room where the wind blows against you and you need to be basically pixel perfect

final berry
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i agree that most people will hate rw but it is not reasonable

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they're just bad ||i'm joking||

pine pulsar
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yeah the game is mean at times

final berry
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very

pine pulsar
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i mean all the time

final berry
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yrs

pine pulsar
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yeah

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more people should play rain world

final berry
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i disagree

flat falcon
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modding is not safe. stop doing modding.

final berry
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most of them would get stuck in outskirts, give up, then write a bad review

round wigeon
pine pulsar
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yeah only the people with the most detrimaintion and skill could beat the game like me

final berry
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i have neither

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hi

pine pulsar
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and anyone else whos play

round wigeon
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there is 2 kind of people the ones that beats rain world and the other that rage quit at the first hours

final berry
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there are three

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the third is game journalists

round wigeon
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oh right, the worst enemy

eternal epoch
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RW is not for the super casual, like game journalists

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remember when they rated a game literally made for babies as too hard?

eternal epoch
royal kite
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modding is unsafe

final berry
lethal mesa
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modding is a punishment

pine pulsar
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yeah i ragequit when i got stuck in the drianage system\

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cause that place sucks

round wigeon
pine pulsar
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ahhhhhh screams in sarcastic fear

eternal epoch
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enemy spawns are not random though?

round wigeon
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is not, just where you found them

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since they move through rooms offscreen

pine pulsar
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wait enemy spawns arent random

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!

eternal epoch
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nope

pine pulsar
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really

eternal epoch
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enemies have thier designated dens they will drag food to

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and where the live

pine pulsar
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I always thought they were

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huh thats news to me

round wigeon
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as i said is random where you find them

pine pulsar
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oh okay that makes more sense

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but where do all the vultures come from like a nest

eternal epoch
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well
technically

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its still not random where you find them

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is it

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technically

pine pulsar
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do levithans live in dens

eternal epoch
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uh

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no

pine pulsar
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i has confusion

eternal epoch
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leviathans really only have a single area they an be in

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that particular body of water

pine pulsar
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ah makes sense

round wigeon
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there is 2 types spawns

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dens and offscreen

eternal epoch
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yea birds are offscreen

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they spawn away and fly in screen

pine pulsar
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thats so cool

round wigeon
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dens are designated where they appear, offscreen doesn't have defined place to spawn, just a range

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so vultures spawn in clear sky, leviathan in bottomless water bodies, miros spawns on the sides of the screen if they are open and scavs does too but idk how it works

pine pulsar
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i thought scavs just travel from there tolls and stuff

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thats so cool

eternal epoch
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scavs will send a team to guard a toll

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and when they all die they will send another team

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i think

round wigeon
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scavengers use special dens

pine pulsar
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neat

eternal epoch
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scavs have their storage rooms

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that you can raid evil

deep lance
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those arent their dens, though

eternal epoch
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ik

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their dens are usually close though

round wigeon
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they are treasure rooms

eternal epoch
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scavs will go back to them to get stuff when running out right

ashen cape
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Theory: offscreen room is actually where spy from tf2 resides, he plays poker with scavs during the rain

pine pulsar
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lol

eternal epoch
pliant finch
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someone should make that into a mod

eternal epoch
pliant finch
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no wait

pine pulsar
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yes

pine pulsar
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does this thread have point since i solved my problem or is there another use for this thread

eternal epoch
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you solved your problem as in you are done talking here or your dad let you?

pine pulsar
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im done ranting about this problem

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i screwed up by visiting the site so he might not let mod the game

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so

deep lance
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leaving it alone for an hour will archive it so if youre done then just dont send any more messages

pine pulsar
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k

sleek snow
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ur mom

pine pulsar
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lol

ashen cape
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Modding actually killed 5 people in times square in 1988 with thrown explosives

pine pulsar
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lol

eternal epoch
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oof

rain brook
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i'm going to end modding

pine pulsar
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k

latent zenith
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i hate modding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vagrant solstice
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Me too it keeps ruining my life

obtuse pilot
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STOP DOING MODDING

latent zenith
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just kidding i just modded today

solar furnace