I have not refunded this game

[candid briar]

It turns out I was correct and I am now in what seems to be Black Mesa

[candid briar]

I need to get the fuck outta this place

[stoic nimbus]

Welcome Gordon Freeman

[candid briar]

The crocodiles fly. There's monsters using weapons against me. There's a flying turkey. Definitely Black Mesa

[stoic nimbus]

Holy.. we have the HECU now?

What's your current situation and region?

[candid briar]

Industrial Complex (Black Mesa)

Currently pleading for my life in a place which I suck at navigating

I jumped off the roof once and it turns out I'm not fully immune to fall damage

[stoic nimbus]

Yeah if you fall 2 screens straight (approximatly) it becomes deadly

[stoic nimbus]

Want help or you got this?

[candid briar]

Nah I'm doing pretty alright

Just kinda lost but I played Hollow Knight I'm familiar with that feeling

[stoic nimbus]

That's good!

[warm moth]

Reposted starting message

I've never been tilted this much since Celeste. Not even League can make me mad the way this game does. Which is a sign that I need to lock in and conquer this game the way I did the other two.

I chose the basic "class" so I could experience the game "normally" before delving into any extra stuff and these first six cycles have been nothing normal. The rain is evil. The plants are evil. The bugs fly and they're 20 meters long. The crocodiles keep killing each other and I have to pray to God I'm not next.

There's a Half-Life ass power plant that I assume I need to be on a specific cycle to enter judging by the extremely cycle-esque symbol on it. The map is confusing. I don't know what I'm doing. The plants keep killing me.

[narrow sail]

A word of advice, if you want it:

||Rain World is indeed hard, but it is often not hard in the ways that, say, Hollow Knight or Celeste are hard. Your skills do not necessarily carry over, do not fool yourself into thinking you can rely on them ||

[candid briar]

I've definitely noticed that this game is way different to the type I usually play and I'm getting used to the fact that running away is the best move 99% of the time. The platforming is also very weird but still fun and I hope the game has more movement to teach me later

[languid oyster]

The game has very elaborate possibilities with movement

There's an actively updated 150 page google doc on rain world movement

The movement taught in the tutorial is the only that is mandatory for progressing the gane though

[candid briar]

I see

[narrow sail]

Bold of you to expect to be taught

Find new parkour tricks through experimentation, and master them through practice.

[languid oyster]

Yeah rainworld is a game where you don't upgrade by getting stronger, you upgrade by getting smarter

All the potential you ever needed to succeed is in your feeble body from the opening day, just gotta learn how to use yourself as well as the environment

[candid briar]

Welcome back Celeste I guess

[candid briar]

I found out what the rain does

I also have seen three different flying turkeys by now

And have been killed/almost killed by:

1. Alligators (like 5 kinds)
2. Plants
3. Flying turkeys
4. Cultists???
5. The rain

[stoic nimbus]

Awesome that you got to industrial complex before sering the rain btw

beware for the turkeys xD

[candid briar]

I saw the rain

And I promptly fucked off before it could get me

And I never saw what it actually does

The second time it started falling I tried to find a resting spot asap but I accidentally got to the roof and just saw what looked like fucking holy fire descending from the sky

[candid briar]

This has been my strategy so far

I've killed a grand total of one enemy

Every time I see something I don't like I get the fuck out

[candid briar]

One of the plants threw a sticky bomb at me I hate this Black Mesa ass place

[candid briar]

Unfortunately this was right after one of those cycle doors so I need to go to sleep more and die less if I want to go back there

[stoic nimbus]

You were erased from existance right then and there lol

[candid briar]

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[stoic nimbus]

Good luck mate! and how are you doing so far?

[candid briar]

Kinda went on like a three-death streak

It's mostly the alligators surprisingly

Probably just cuz they're so common

The turkeys I've mostly just been calm and steady when dealing with and just wait until they leave so I can sneak around through the little passageways in the floor

I've also had issues where I struggle to enter a passageway cuz I'm kind of imprecise

[stoic nimbus]

That's good, the turkeys truly have nothing on you

[candid briar]

I've learned long ago that I am not a fighter by any means and I don't even know if I can physically kill this thing

I've yet to find an NPC though I know they exist cuz I slightly spoiled myself

I don't know who any of them are

[stoic nimbus]

You may have already been trailing one all along

I assume you are following your "guide" since you are heading east

[candid briar]

What guide

Oh is this a hint

[stoic nimbus]

this mf

[candid briar]

Oh

No I'm just going randomly lol

OHHH IS THAT WHY HE SHOWS A SLUGCAT SOMETIMES?

THERE ARE OTHER MFS LIKE ME?

[stoic nimbus]

That also works too

[stoic nimbus]

Maybe he might know where your family is? :O

[candid briar]

Oh I forgot I have a family

[stoic nimbus]

LAAÇSLKMNDFASKÇLJOHFADJOPF xDxD

it's fine

[candid briar]

What in the world is my family in Black Mesa for

[stoic nimbus]

They might be looking for you, or regardless this just might be the entire world for them

[candid briar]

I'm gonna call that it's like a 70% chance they're dead or partially dead

[stoic nimbus]

"Never tell me the odds!"

have fun theorizing about the way ahead

[candid briar]

I'm very interested in what these cycles are

Feels like they have plot importance

Judging by the lettering system and the cycle-limited doors

Though that could just be a game mechanic to prevent you from getting too far ahead

It's interesting how many things have "strings"

The Turkey kind of does, the plants mostly do

[languid oyster]

You can access any place in the game at any time

Just dependent on how good at survival you are

[candid briar]

Not sure if that's just a coincidence/surveillance bias or some sort of evolutionary connection between them, perhaps by whatever post-apocalypse thing happened

[candid briar]

What about the doors tho

[stoic nimbus]

Good rest and a filled stomach can take you anywhere in this run down hole

[languid oyster]

Meet a door's symbol requirements and good to go

The game is nonlinear and any area will have multiple outlets to find

[stoic nimbus]

Absolutely

[languid oyster]

So every playthrough is unique

[candid briar]

Yeah but those are cycle-dependent

[candid briar]

Familiar with that, it's a metroidvania isn't it?

Or kind of like one

Doesn't really have the backtracking w/ new skill parts so I guess it's just a nonlinear action-adventure

[languid oyster]

The game is not really a metroidvania

It's indie and 2d and pixelly

And there the similarities sorta end

[languid oyster]

If you mean the number counter, no

[candid briar]

Nonlinear action-adventure is basically 60% of the way there

[candid briar]

Then what is it

I had to get to a specific symbol to get there

And that took sleeping

[languid oyster]

Well yeah

You sleep, it rises

You die, it falls

[candid briar]

So it's cycle-dependent

[languid oyster]

The number just goes up and up just to keep count

[candid briar]

Yeah but what I mean is I need to go through cycles to get there

I can't pass on cycle 1 for example

[languid oyster]

That's true, technically

[languid oyster]

No upgrading or leveling system, equipment, or bosses

Best way to think of rain world is for what it is, an ecosystem

[candid briar]

I wouldn't say the latter two are necessary for a Metroidvania

Ori TBF doesn't have bosses and I don't recall an equipment system either (aside from the skill tree)

[languid oyster]

An ecosystem sim where you are a humble creature interlocking in a foodchain

No skill tree in rw either you have had everything you need to eventually beat the game in just your squishy body

The game has an underlying story and an actual ending but they play second fiddle to the gameplay, the meat of the game is in immersing into and learning to survive the ins and outs of an expansive openworld environment

It's a weird comparison but I've seen people say it's ever so slightly like minecraft

Definitely bizarre to say l guess l do see it, ever so slightly

[stoic nimbus]

The exact meaning should become clear to you soon enough, but right now it's a system that you are rewarded for "conquering" a region by eating food and then hybernating withoud BECOMING the food with getting access to other areas, if you die you go down and are forced to engage in the predator or prey cycle again until you have clearance

[languid oyster]

Let me make it clear that death is NOT a demonstration of failure

[candid briar]

I know, I've played Hollow Knight

And Celeste

And a dozen roguelites

Sometimes dying is the fun part

On a side note

[languid oyster]

Death will be very common and it's an integral part of the experience, it's an important step in the Trial And Error procedure

[candid briar]

Jumping down a gaping hole and finding myself back at the water pool gave me Deepnest flashbacks

[languid oyster]

Which you will be performing a million times as you solve each new puzzle the game introduces

[candid briar]

Current theories are

1. This is some sort of experiment, likely something like simulating an ecosystem, but something went wrong and the now-mutated ecosystem broke out

2. The world is just like this for some reason, probably some mutation or climate stuff judging by the primordial rain

There are weird seemingly sapient guys running around throwing shit at me

And I found a room that seemed extremely cult-likr

[languid oyster]

super interesting theories

Make theories at your complete freedom as you go! reading them is one of the highlights for helpers like me

[candid briar]

Making theories was my favourite part of Silksong and all of them were wrong

[languid oyster]

All yours for rw will be wrong too. Or will they? Time will tell.

[narrow sail]

Metroidvanias aren't really necessarily nonlinear, though. The definition is more based off of an upgrade-based gameplay loop, which Rain World doesn't have.

[candid briar]

I'd argue the key selling point of metroidvanias is backtracking and exploration

Seeing a door and going "I need to come back here later" is the same as it is in a Metroidvania even if the unlock conditions are different (exploration vs simple gameplay loop)

[narrow sail]

well yeah

But it's a skill-check or a knowledge-check rather than a progression lock like, say, Metroid or Ori.

It certainly feels like a metroidvania at times, and the map certainly resembles it, but I'd argue it's better described just as an open-world game.

[candid briar]

That's why I said it's 60% of the way there

It's not a Metroidvania but I believe most Metroidvania players would enjoy it

[narrow sail]

well yeah

There's definitely some overlap in the fanbases, myself included

[stoic nimbus]

My sister has completed both Hollow Knight and Silksong but says that Rain world was boring and dropped it before even leaving outskirts, maybe the fact that you aren't beating everything up and getting stronger by the second doesn't really appease some ppl

[candid briar]

Rain World definitely embodies the more passive elements of metroidvanias

Like there's the whole combat and platforming stuff and then there's the "getting lost for two hours"

(I like getting lost for two hours)

[stoic nimbus]

Yeahhh don't worry, soon enough you won't be getting lost as much

though i admit that vibe exploring as a begginer was super fun

[narrow sail]

I for one love being lost

[stoic nimbus]

except that time i went into a middle game region as a begginer by accident and got stuck and had to reset oops X(

[candid briar]

It's my favourite part

[narrow sail]

Good

[stoic nimbus]

monksilly

[candid briar]

Pulled out the wiki for the first time

I got to the top of the Chimney Canopy, saw a nuclear explosion-level blast of blue light

And wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything

And what I learned was

1. I need to come back later

2. I need to get out of this area

[narrow sail]

Don't use the wiki

Information is your most powerful tool in this game.

[candid briar]

What's wrong with it

[narrow sail]

So giving yourself extra more or less amounts to cheating.

[candid briar]

Cheating in a single player game 🤔

I don't mind that

[narrow sail]

I mean, yeah, play however you want

[candid briar]

Rather that than have to backtrack 8 miles cuz I missed something

[narrow sail]

But the game is designed to be played blind.

[narrow sail]

I mean, Passages exist. That's what they're for

Besides, it's pretty hard for that to happen just because there's almost never only one way to do something.

[primal leaf]

what about survival platformer? that seems like a pretty decent label ive seen

[languid oyster]

Sometimes, it's a hunting platformer

And.... a monk platformer

[primal leaf]

and yeah wiki-ing rainworld is like looking up the ending of a movie you're watching.
kinda not meant to do that. even if you're the only one watching it.

[narrow sail]

Makes it kinda hard to be lost and confused in a vast and unknown world

[languid oyster]

Yes you will absolutely want to stay away from the rainworld wiki

It is best played blind and you deplete a significant part of the experience

[candid briar]

I don't mind spoiling minor things that I wouldn't have figured out myself

Y'all are acting like I looked up a complete map or something

There's no way in hell I would've thought "I need to come back here later with enough karma"

[narrow sail]

In terms of, like, the amount of power it gives you, googling how creatures work is roughly equivalent to /give-ing yourself a diamond pick in Minecraft. It's pretty significant

[primal leaf]

thats completely fair, but do try to persevere for as long as possible

[candid briar]

Again, didn't "google how a creature works"

I looked up what a dead end that flashbanged me was about

[languid oyster]

Oh we're not against that either but the game is riddled with big surprises that you'd be at constant risk of exposure to in an innocently unrelated article

Hence why this forum

[narrow sail]

I mean, you don't need to interact with that thing anyways. A good 70% of the game's content is obscure and missable mechanics like that one, the idea being that you'll naturally stumble across some of them on any given playthrough.

[primal leaf]

yeah free roaming RWers are horrible at hiding spsoilers

[languid oyster]

You ask, we tell. We give curated answers based on a player's needs and keep them safe from unnecessary additional info

[primal leaf]

i remember a video recently that kindly put massive watcher spoilers in their thumbnail. and spoils the entire ending in teh first 3 seconds of the video

like wow...... thanks i guess

[narrow sail]

Yeah, if you don't wanna play blind it's still better to ask here than to go to the wiki
With us you at least ensure you're not getting spoiled to anything other than the stuff you were asking about.

[candid briar]

I'm fairly good at navigating

It's just like HK really

I know what I'm after so I just tune everything else out

Look up a map -> I know I'm at the top so I just look at the higher areas -> See text on my point -> Google what the text is -> Check out requirements -> Close

Didn't see a single thing that I didn't want to know

[narrow sail]

(we're cryptic by default, since, y'know, what we said, but if you want more direct answers ask for them directly)

[languid oyster]

Yeah we will give detailed answers without riddles if you expressly consent to them; otherwise we default to broader or vaguer hints that serve to gently nudge you in solving a problem yourself

[candid briar]

Doesn't really work out for these sort of limited-time things tho

Especially without the ability to save and quit

Sometimes I just gotta know if I need to stay somewhere for longer or if I can throw myself off by now

(I threw myself off and died)

Kinda hoped I'd just go flying through like 7 rooms

[narrow sail]

Is anything in the game limited-time? You have unlimited cycles...

[narrow sail]

Yeah that would be really funny

[candid briar]

Talking mostly about irl, I spent ages climbing up to that point

Honestly didn't even know what I was doing

I just knew that I wanted to go up

And so I went up whenever I was able to

[languid oyster]

That's a true and understandable concern; nevertheless, we are from every timezone corner of the globe and try our best to have a felper answer questions as quick as they are posted.

[narrow sail]

ah I see

[candid briar]

That last gauntlet of rooms was kinda terrifying actually way too many turkeys (whom I now know are called vultures)

Somehow this chimney place is 800x worse than Black Mesa

[narrow sail]

Just so you know there's nothing in the game that states that, the creature names on the wiki are generally made-up or taken from the code or something. So feel free to invent your own terminology

[candid briar]

0 space for error, there's a pit of death in every room, alligators (whom I now know are actually lizards) keep ambushing me and the weird monkey(?) cult(?) people won't leave me alone

[candid briar]

Oh that explains it

Generally I feel like there are so many things I don't want to know

I picked up a worm and it started glowing red and I just fucked off

Still no clue what they do

And I hope that I don't have to find out

[narrow sail]

Hence why we advise against the wiki

[languid oyster]

It's a lifelike game believe it or not, falling from a hundred meter height... leaves some marks maybe

[primal leaf]

i think crocodile/alligator is more accurate (i man look at em, clearly they bathe in sunlight and pretend to be logs!) but lizard is shorter and rolls easier of the tongue

[narrow sail]

croc:

[candid briar]

Where is my cat side when I need it

Why am I all slug and no cat

And why are these white alligators so fucking fast god damn it's actually terrifying

[languid oyster]

Very few animals in the game have canon names, we encourage players being free and creative to use their own

[candid briar]

Hit me with their tongue, I get locked in place for 20 seconds while praying I get out and then they chase me while twice as fast

[narrow sail]

I have a big list in this server somewhere with all of the funny names y'all come up with for everything. I haven't updated it in a while though

[candid briar]

No clue where I'm going though I suppose I should maybe start listening to my guide but at the same time I kind of don't really care

[narrow sail]

Rain World is a horror game at times

[candid briar]

Rain World is a horror game 24/7

I've died more times to random alligator ambushes than I have to actual enemies

[languid oyster]

s are my worst foe

[primal leaf]

i love white lizors

they keep me on my toes

[candid briar]

Hey are the turkey colours any different

Do they all do the same thing

[narrow sail]

I mean, there aren't really any actual enemies in this game beyond random predator ambushes

[candid briar]

Also one of the cultists(?) entered my fucking shelter and I've never been more terrified in my life

It's like learning the Velociraptors can open doors

[languid oyster]

Many critters have individual colour and integument variation, they're only cosmetic and behave the same otherwise

[candid briar]

I see

[narrow sail]

As is true in the real world.

[candid briar]

Are all enemies in this game unlimited or are there some limited ones

Like is it possible to make the number drop by killing them

I assume the basic ones are but what about the more special ones (like the vultures)

[narrow sail]

Yes, but the resulting voids in the ecosystem will eventually be filled (so only temporarily)

[narrow sail]

All creatures can be killed.

[languid oyster]

Animals have set populations and spawns in a given region. When you kill one it'll eventually respawn after some cycles elapse. Or, something else will happen.

[candid briar]

Is it just for the current cycle or does it carry over for a few ones

[languid oyster]

[candid briar]

I see

[languid oyster]

It depends on every creature. Ditto for food items.

[candid briar]

Hm

[narrow sail]

Well, be replaced.

[languid oyster]

Yeah the respawn would be a different individual id

[candid briar]

Are things like Monk and Hunter actual characters or just different possibilities

And is there any content exclusive to those

[languid oyster]

Characters

[narrow sail]

Actual characters

[languid oyster]

Every slugcat has its own story, worldstate and goals

[candid briar]

Will I meet them eventually?

Or do they only exist in their campaigns

[candid briar]

God damn so I just bought 3 games for the price of one?

Hell, for the price of half of one

Crazy

Also where's the More Slugcats expansion? Can't see it on the steam store

[languid oyster]

If you get the dlcs you'll have like 10 games

[narrow sail]

They all exist in the story, but they aren't necessarily alive at the same time as the Survivor.

[languid oyster]

[candid briar]

Too broke for those for now

[languid oyster]

That's the Downpour dlc

[candid briar]

Ah

[narrow sail]

MSC is the name of one of the mods implemented by the Downpour DLC.

[languid oyster]

Downpour dlc is a package bundle of 3 official mods

[candid briar]

Interesting

What's the Watcher then?

[languid oyster]

Multiplayer
Expedition Mode
and More Slugcats

[primal leaf]

1 campaign

[languid oyster]

Watcher is the next dlc, it adds one more slugcat. It is the biggest campaign by far though, hence getting to stand alone in a dlc

[narrow sail]

The Monk is really similar to the Survivor since it's a pseudo-easy-mode. But the Hunter is very much its own thing

[candid briar]

I'm assuming Hunter then is "hard mode"? Or at least harder than Survivor

[primal leaf]

the flavour text does imply that

[languid oyster]

Hunter is harder than survivor, but it has a pretty different story and routing and some features unique to it so can't be said to imitate the survivor experience too much

[narrow sail]

The path of the Hunter is one of extreme peril

[candid briar]

I started this game like half a year ago, played for an hour and then dropped it so I remember nothing about the start

I actually have zero clue how the game even started

[narrow sail]

Ah, that happens a lot

[candid briar]

Is there any difference in movement and combat mechanics?

[narrow sail]

so basically you were living with your family (others of your kind) and then the Rain happened and you fell in a pit and got separated

[narrow sail]

Definitely.

[candid briar]

And Hunter is not that?

Is it worth it to play these simultaneously or should I focus on Survivor

[narrow sail]

Not at all

[languid oyster]

You can't play hunter now if you wanted to

[candid briar]

Cuz the idea of going two different routes at the same time kind of intrigues me

[languid oyster]

It's unlocked by beating either surv or monk

[narrow sail]

Focus on the Survivor. You can't play the Hunter now anyways, and the Monk, as I said, is mostly just pseudo-easy-mode and not really worth it if you can handle Survivor.

[candid briar]

Ah

Makes sense

[languid oyster]

Monk is a good campaign if you ever want to do sidequests or fill gaps in your map awareness or such

Or find out monk's place in the lore, too

For sake of completionism

[candid briar]

It turns out there were 2 passageways in that big climb that I didn't look at so I guess it's backtracking time

I just got skewered by a monkey

Okay I'm at the next door to what I assume is an even harder area but I'll need to eat first

THERE'S A SHELTER LORD TAKE 5 YEARS FROM MY LIFESPAN AND GRANT IT TO WHOMEVER DESIGNED THIS PLACE

Sky Islands is tuff

[narrow sail]

fun fact
the entire vanilla map was made by just one guy
(the core development team was only two people)

[candid briar]

Okay so I fell off and I believe I'm locked out now

The lizard was eating my food but the turkey ate the lizard

Truly the circle of life

[narrow sail]

Using the food chain to your advantage

[candid briar]

I somehow did a dash on the ground

And I have no clue how to replicate it

Cuz I was just kinda jumping around and then my guy slid forward

Oh shit I just got hit by a cutscene

There are ghosts behind me. Interesting

[narrow sail]

Heyyyy remember what I said about parkour tricks

Now you know it exists. Next step is to replicate it

[candid briar]

Okay so I've fallen off again

I'm being spawncamped by a vulture

[narrow sail]

Where are you now? Sky Islands?

[candid briar]

Nope

Right in front of the door

Didn't find a shelter before dropping to my death

Feels like a good point to end it for today

[narrow sail]

Ah, yeah, that door is deceptively tricky

[candid briar]

This game is starting to PMO in a bad way and I'm losing motivation but I'll persevere because it's interesting enough

I'm literally stuck in a place with 3 exits all of which need high karma

But I can't get high karma cuz there's 800 enemies per room

Current strat is to try backtracking into Industrial Complex and go someplace else

[stoic nimbus]

Watch the avgn ninja gaiden video

it'll help

it sure as hell helped me

[candid briar]

I've been motivated by a friend who told me to fuck off from chimney canopy and go follow the guide

So I will do that and say goodbye to this platforming

[stoic nimbus]

That's absolutely fair

https://youtu.be/6t2YvyLqw3c

[narrow sail]

Do you have Passage?

[candid briar]

Nope

[narrow sail]

[candid briar]

Shaded Citadel is not as bad as I thought it'd be

[stoic nimbus]

Just learn to be a scary scug and you win

The enemy may be terrifying, but you are even more

[candid briar]

The centipedes disagree

[stoic nimbus]

cherry bombs agree

[candid briar]

Kinda breezing through, though I did just barely make it to the first shelter of Looks To The Moon before the rain got me

Five Pebbles = Found ✅

[languid oyster]

When'd you find that?

[candid briar]

Just now

Seems like they're stuck

Probably gonna have to climb further up cuz that seems to be the only way nearby

[languid oyster]

Why do you name em that?

[candid briar]

Friend told me to go find Five Pebbles so I'm assuming this is Five Pebbles

[languid oyster]

[candid briar]

Are they not Five Pebbles

Is this someone else

[late fog]

What do they look like?

[candid briar]

Blue

And stuck to something

It turns out this is not Five Pebbles

It also turns out it's a good thing I only ate 3/5 glowing guys

[late fog]

You'll definitely know when you find five pebbles lol

[candid briar]

I've been playing under the assumption the blue mf I've been seeing was Pebbles

Who tf is Moon bruh

[languid oyster]

That's why you don't allow in outside information

You'll only get confused and mix up events or instructions or info

[late fog]

The one you just met 😌

[candid briar]

Getting mixed up over a name is not really all that confusing

[languid oyster]

While at the same time getting surprises spoilt

You'll have a fraction of the surprise and mystery if you know already you're hunting for an entity named five pebbles

[candid briar]

Not really?

I still don't know who they are or why I'm following them

How do I unlobotomise Moon and is it even worth it ATP cuz that mf is 60% of the way to death

[languid oyster]

You made the decision

Just a hungry slugcat doing what it needed to fill its tummy

[candid briar]

I regret my decision

[candid briar]

After some consultations I've decided I'm probably gonna try to load a backup or something

It turns out all I lose are "lore drops" but I NEED to know what the hell is going on

[candid briar]

(which I may not even have to do cuz I can't remember if I slept or not)

[stoic nimbus]

Don't

you can make ammends for your "mistakes" later if you want to

keep going

[languid oyster]

You can totally progress the game with no consequence but it is your decision

Also, nothing is a "mistake". Maybe stuff can be not in the interest of the player, but ingame any choice is neutral

[stoic nimbus]

(do not spoil yourself on how to, figure it out)

[languid oyster]

You are only an animal trying to survive

[candid briar]

This is what I consulted about

[stoic nimbus]

[candid briar]

And it sounds like a hassle

[stoic nimbus]

Not really tbh

But i won't get into it

and neither should you

just feel free to ping me for any future occurrances so you don't have to spoil yourself

[candid briar]

I already have

What I know is it's 3 locations or so away

And I presumably need to do it twice just to get back to 5 neurons

And I have to find it without the guide

[stoic nimbus]

Well uhh i guess, yeah
What else do you know?

[candid briar]

Nothing really

I know I need to go back into Shaded

And find the place from there

[stoic nimbus]

Yeah that's good

[candid briar]

I also know that's presumably where Five Pebbles is

Whom I still don't know much about

But I assume they're like Moon

Question is what does "like Moon" mean

[stoic nimbus]

Looks to the moon?

[candid briar]

Moon the person whose neurons I ate

Is looks to the moon their full name

[stoic nimbus]

Yeahs

[candid briar]

Cuz that has some interesting implications

[stoic nimbus]

Of course!

[candid briar]

Considering the area itself is named Looks to the Moon

[stoic nimbus]

You will find out more about why that is soon enough

[candid briar]

Well

Neurons floating around

Connected to a place named the same way

I'm gonna assume this is a GladOS situation

They were placed here and are basically a living being taking the function of an AI

Or something similar

[stoic nimbus]

Wow you really love your Half life universe games

[stoic nimbus]

So you believe that moon is a living person whose mind has also been transplanted into a AI system?

[candid briar]

Not quite

Moon's body is still there

But they're connected to the facility and the facility is named after them

In any other context I'd assume this is a prison but they don't seem awfully imprisoned

The idea of neurons being disconnected from them is also interesting

And part of the reason why I believe this is some AI shenanigans

[languid oyster]

[candid briar]

If the neurons are disconnected then presumably you may be able to remotely control them

[languid oyster]

Intriguing theories

[candid briar]

(and anything they're inhabiting)

This is definitely a high-tech world, or at least used to be before something happened

[cinder salmon]

[candid briar]

The biggest reason I want Moon is to be able to make a sense of this shit

Cuz they're connected to lore drops somehow

I'm gonna assume if I collect enough neurons they start talking or something

I'm thinking about what else I know though

I still don't quite get if Moon is the same species as me

If they are that explains some stuff I think

Cuz Survivor is clearly shown to be at least somewhat smarter than the others

On account of being able to climb, pick up and throw stuff, etc.

The only others to do that are the monkey cultist shadow wizard money gang

[languid oyster]

And yeah if amending for your actions seems like a hassle from your research it's in your freedom to load a backup (if you even need to ). The game makes em automatically regularly and you wouldn't lose much progress. Just know that the game is often about long and frustrating journeys for a worthwhile goal, so don't use that as a pillow all the time . it'd still be neater to do the thing legit.

[stoic nimbus]

I like your funny theories half life man, i think that if you went to shaded citadel and did whatever you have to do you might find yourself correct on some things

[candid briar]

I'll think about it, quit playing for today anyway so I have some time

I like the idea of the game and its' difficulty

And I've played games with similar appeal before (Hollow Knight, arguably Celeste and some roguelites)

But fetch quests are the bane of my existence

So I guess the question is do I have to bring neurons 2 by 2 or can I take like eight million of them

Oh fuck am I gonna have to choose between Five Pebbles and Moon

[languid oyster]

Remember that nothing's mandatory

[candid briar]

Morally it is

I need to repay the guide

I didn't listen to them and I wound up in the Tower of Hell

(Chimney Canopy)

[languid oyster]

Accurate name

[candid briar]

And then I listened to them and wound up in actual paradise (Shoreline)

[granite comet]

i love these names u give to regions

[candid briar]

It's a habit I've picked up by forgetting names

Rain World has easy-to-remember names but now I've just gotten used to it

Current areas I've been to are uhh

Outskirts, Industrial Complex, Chimney Canopy, Shaded Citadel(? Can't remember the second word), Shoreline, Looks to the Moon

And I feel like there was something between complex and shaded

[granite comet]

[candid briar]

Outskirts was hell but only because I was a fraudulent bum who didn't know what he was doing

Industrial Complex was alright except for the eight hundred kilometer tall pipes that I had to climb every time I died

Chimney Canopy needs to be culled completely, I want that area wiped from the map

Pave over it and build a Walmart

[languid oyster]

Outskirts is hell for every new player

[candid briar]

I don't even know what killed me the most cuz it was a team effort

[languid oyster]

300 hours later, l now return to it fondly like an old home

[candid briar]

90% of the time it was me being ambushed by an alligator

[languid oyster]

One forgets how good they had it there

[stoic nimbus]

Absolutely real asf omg

[candid briar]

Returning to Industrial Complex after Chimney Canopy was a heavenly experience

[candid briar]

I need all those turkeys extinct

And the white and blue alligators too

[stoic nimbus]

Might sound crazy but i like chimnney cannopy tbh, it's so fun

When you memorize the map

[languid oyster]

The turkeys are pushovers

More bark than bite

[candid briar]

I suck genuine ass at platforming because I'm used to high-movement games

Ori, HK, Celeste mainly

Arguably Terraria too

Having 0 mid-air correction is actual hell

[candid briar]

They're useless alone but are annoying as hell

Like if I need to go somewhere and they just completely block the path for like 2 minutes

[languid oyster]

Very true

[candid briar]

Same goes for alligators

[stoic nimbus]

Rain world has no mid air corrections? wow

to me movement just feels so natural and REAL

xD

[languid oyster]

Me when gravity acts like gravity

[stoic nimbus]

didn't even realize air corrections were nonexistamt

[candid briar]

I had a cycle where I went into Sky Islands and the ONLY path forward was blocked by an alligator that was spinning in circles due to pathfinding issues

[granite comet]

me when slugcat doesn't have blue pink hair and can't dash three times

[stoic nimbus]

I love those guys so much

[candid briar]

Slugcat needs to grow wings or shit

[languid oyster]

Even the devs say they don't know how to fix that, and they tried

[cinder salmon]

[languid oyster]

:

[stoic nimbus]

Just equip the angel wings in the accesory slot duhhh

[languid oyster]

There's a mod for that

[stoic nimbus]

terraria in rain world?

[candid briar]

The modding community gets me

[languid oyster]

There are terraria easter eggs in one of the dlc campaigns

[candid briar]

Looks to the Moon has no right to have this layout ntw

[languid oyster]

Won't say which

[candid briar]

It should not take me eight years of tunnel crawling just to get to Moon

[stoic nimbus]

Oh my gaytttttt i gotta find it

[stoic nimbus]

Learn to pipe boost later or something

[candid briar]

How do people find this stuff out bruh

Is this like actual game mechanics the devs thought of

[stoic nimbus]

I found it through accident and learned how to hone it to go ZOOOOM

[languid oyster]

I've watched speedrunners leg it from tutorial to moon's room in one cycle. You have no idea.

[candid briar]

Or is this a Celeste situation where "This is now a feature"

[stoic nimbus]

Oh wow this is awesome

[granite comet]

experiment!!!

[cinder salmon]

most movement stuff ive found has been by pure accident

[candid briar]

Speedrunners are a different breed

They scare me

I've seen mfs go through Deepnest lanternless out of sheer sixth sense

[languid oyster]

Some are, some are not

[stoic nimbus]

I still gotta conquer the way to ?ploo though, sounds super hard and inhuman

[languid oyster]

Backflips? Intended. Literal fruit-powered levitation? ... maybe not.

[candid briar]

Backflips are fun as hell

I don't think they have a use but I've aurafarmed with them on multiple occasions

[stoic nimbus]

?ploo

[languid oyster]

Aurafarm is an use

[candid briar]

Is this just straight up floating what

[stoic nimbus]

Yes xD

[languid oyster]

Yep there's weirder stuff

It's impossible without robotlike reflexes, it needs frame perfect rhythm

[stoic nimbus]

Oh no

[candid briar]

Do y'all know how long it takes to drown

[languid oyster]

In remix settings you can enable a visual breath bar

[cinder salmon]

There's signs the slugcat will show too when it's about to drown without the bar

[stoic nimbus]

I just wing it tbh, usually works just fine

[languid oyster]

Yup, it's all in the body language

[stoic nimbus]

you get enough body language

[languid oyster]

Some advice we do try give people though, never press Jump underwater

[candid briar]

I assume it's like

[languid oyster]

It gives you a small boost in exchange for oxygen plummeting faster

[candid briar]

A boost that tires you out faster

Yeah

[languid oyster]

Yeah

[candid briar]

So good for emergencies

But not for general travel

[languid oyster]

Yeah, good for a last second save to shoot up to the surface

[candid briar]

Can the frogs kill me

Cuz they've jumped at me a few times and haven't been able to do anything so far

I assume they're just kind of ass at their job

[cinder salmon]

Frogs?

[candid briar]

In Shoreline

[cinder salmon]

The underwater fast fish?

[candid briar]

That's a fish?

It looks like a frog

Doesn't it have legs

[cinder salmon]

I'd say those look more tentacle-like

I just say fish since I haven't really thought about what they look like

[languid oyster]

Nothing has a canonical identity

Any names can be used

[granite comet]

and it's really fun seeing how everyone names creatures!

[languid oyster]

We like to keep record of all the fun names people develop for rainworld's critters

[candid briar]

We might not be thinking of the same thing hold on

Nevermind this is definitely a fish

This is the first time I'm getting a good look at them

[candid briar]

Question is why is the Overseer guiding me to Moon in the first place

Presumably for more neurons

Well not presumably

100% for more neurons

But I still don't get what exactly is up with Moon

They seem to be largely immobile and definitely defenseless

(judging as how I can literally eat their brain in front of them and they just cower and hide along with their guide)

So could LITM (the place) be keeping Moon (the person) alive?

All these mfs have fire names bruh

I've heard the name Seven Red Suns thrown around or something like that

And god fucking damn the sheer aura radiating from that

I'm 100% buying Downpour eventually

From the research I've done

Presumably in spring sale if I've finished Survivor and Hunter by then

[languid oyster]

Buy Watcher

[stoic nimbus]

Well if you're sure that's the intention in mind then yeah, but feel free to keep theorizing!

Buy Watcher x2

after buying downpour tho

tell us when you got downpour

[candid briar]

Maybe during the summer

[candid briar]

Gonna be a while til then lol

[stoic nimbus]

We can wait

[languid oyster]

Yeah it's a veteran's campaign

You have a long way to go in experience

[candid briar]

I'm trying to think if there's any lore I might've forgotten from the start

Cuz I remember nothing from my first hour

[languid oyster]

There were scugs

There was rain

[candid briar]

What

Ah

[languid oyster]

You got washed away

[candid briar]

Hey so are Five Pebbles and co slugcats

They look similar but seem somewhat different

[languid oyster]

Find out

[candid briar]

I know Five Pebbles also has neurons

(from a misunderstanding)

(I said "Did I fuck up by eating the neurons near Five Pebbles" and it took two minutes of talking to realise that's not Five Pebbles)

Hm

[languid oyster]

[candid briar]

At some point I want to probably Passage back into outskirts or something to explore in another direction

Just in case there's any optional stuff I've missed that might give more lore

[languid oyster]

The world connects like a spiderweb

There's always a way back to anywhere

[candid briar]

I know I've completely missed some garbage area

Not like an ass area

Literal garbage

It turns out my route is completely fucked because I tend to wander off after I see something

I don't know if I have ADHD or childlike wonder

I'm going completely off the assumption this really is a post-apocalypse world

And I still haven't been able to answer what exactly happened

[stoic nimbus]

Them ancients really screwed up everything, but you thrive on their ashes :D

Go forth and find out the truth about it all

trooper

[candid briar]

Who tf is "you" I'm being clowned on here

I'm doing everything but thriving man this world is kicking my ass

My Slugcat's legs are shattered by this point with how many times I've leapt off to my death

I need to get used to low-movement at some point

[stoic nimbus]

Is the game controlling you or are you controlling the game?

[candid briar]

The game gives me possibilities to choose between

So it's kind of both

[stoic nimbus]

Machine is predictable

you, are not

[primal leaf]

well this is defenitely looking to be one of the strangest RW runs ive seen yet

[stoic nimbus]

There are worse, wanna see it for yourself?

[narrow sail]

That doesn't really qualify as "messing up the route", that's the normal way to find new things in this game don't worry

[candid briar]

I don't think it's messed up, just fucked

I can already tell speedrunning will be fun eventually

[candid briar]

In the end I chose to load a backup, I have now met Moon and not lobotomised her

Next goal is Five Pebbles I guess, I'm choosing not to use passage cuz I wanna see more of Shoreline

[candid briar]

I drowned 6 minutes through travelling so now I'm Passaging

[stoic nimbus]

THE SURVIVOR

[candid briar]

Back to shaded it is

[stoic nimbus]

Bum budabun bumbumbumbum
Bum budabun bumbumbumbum
Bum budabun bumbumbumbum

[candid briar]

I'm trying to think of a funny name but I can't remember the SMG2 galaxy where platforms only exist if they're lit up

Oh well

The shadow wizard money gang is also here and my guide now has a blue friend

[stoic nimbus]

How are you getting through withoud a glow?

[candid briar]

Intuition

[stoic nimbus]

smort

[candid briar]

My guide thinks he real funny leading me into a room with FIVE ALLIGATORS

[languid oyster]

A tale in two parts

[stoic nimbus]

You struck gold

But it's heavily defended

[candid briar]

There is a giant red water plant

Blocking my know way forward

[stoic nimbus]

It's not as bulletproof as you might imagine it to be

But you are in the right way

[candid briar]

It really isn't I impaled it and just walked past

[stoic nimbus]

GGS mate

[candid briar]

guide wants me to go down
I want to explore more so I go right
Screen switches over, there's a giant red plant 2 centimeters away from me

I never learn

Thankfully I reacted in time

Mostly cuz these guys are kinda frauds

The plants killed me

[stoic nimbus]

They are the good kind of conmen

[candid briar]

Okay so I have no idea how to get past these things cuz I simply do not have the ammo

Guess I'm gonna have to take a detour to get some rocks

My detour failed and I died again

[stoic nimbus]

Two rocks or one spear do just fine

[candid briar]

I missed the spear and I have died again

[stoic nimbus]

Now it's up to you to use these tactics to achieve maximum victory

[candid briar]

Yes but there's two of them

In a row

With seemingly no ammo in between

[stoic nimbus]

There's a trick you can do that solves your problem

it's quite easy actually

[candid briar]

is it picking up my ammo after I've thrown it

[stoic nimbus]

You can get through 20 of these plants in a row with only one single spear just fine

[stoic nimbus]

Dingdinding!

✅

[candid briar]

I miseed

Twice

In a row

With soears

Against a stationary target

[stoic nimbus]

It's fine!

You can mess up in even worse ways

but in rain world you can't really "mess up"

just, become smarter

[candid briar]

Okay I've gathered enough to get through despite my misses

The passageway is glowing so I'm gonna assume this is the way out

Turns out I'm broke and have no food

So I went to go get food and got eaten by presumably the goose from Untitled Goose Game

[stoic nimbus]

Oh my god

the jumpscare i got from them was real hard

hopefully you survived

[candid briar]

Nope

Gonna go back there tomorrow

[stoic nimbus]

good luck!

[primal leaf]

i reckon even 0 spears are enough, given how theyre placed

[stoic nimbus]

Eh i can't reliably get through them with no items

[primal leaf]

skill issue yeah same

[candid briar]

Memory Crypts was terrifying

The Terminator Geese kept standing still and blocking my way so I eventually just started balling it and ran past them

Made it to The Exterior

[narrow sail]

[stoic nimbus]

Have you died to the death pit next to the first shelter?

[candid briar]

I have not

I skipped the first shelter cuz I was broke and foodless

Anyway

On one hand this area not being called Five Pebbles confuses me

On the other, Exterior implies there's an Interior

[narrow sail]

an impressive accomplishment

[candid briar]

Wait

Are we talking about the pit in Exterior

If so yes I immediately jumped down into it

[stoic nimbus]

Lol

me too

[candid briar]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

[narrow sail]

Ah OK

some day

in the future

it'll fill up completely with dead slugcats

and we'll just be able to walk across it

[stoic nimbus]

Amen

[candid briar]

I HAVE A GRAPPLING HOOK???

[stoic nimbus]

HOLY SHIT HALF LIFE OPPOSING FORCE REFERENCE ADRIAN SHEPPARD?

[narrow sail]

[candid briar]

I've been promptly eaten by an alligator I couldn't avoid

Because I chose to keep climbing instead of going right

[stoic nimbus]

Eh it's fine, atleast you are able to recognize what caused this to happen

[candid briar]

My recklessness and stubbornness

Which I don't intend to change WE BALL WE BALL WE BALL

I NEED to go higher

Okay so I fell off

[stoic nimbus]

SO HIGGGHH

[stoic nimbus]

0 views in 1 second?

[candid briar]

Worse, 1 fall in 20 seconds

I LOVE WHEN AN ALLIGATOR GRABS ME FROM OFF SCREEN AND PULLS ME INTO ITS' MOUTH IMMEDIATELY

Wait why the fuck is this place called The Leg

IS THIS A MECHA

I made it into the room I wanted to go to and genuinely what in the world

I found Blue Wither Storm

And I have fallen off once again

[stoic nimbus]

Blue wither storm? :O

The jumps in this area get easier with time don't worry

[candid briar]

Giant flying thing made up of black balls with blue eyes(?)

And tentacles

There is an alligator afk farming directly in front of my shelter ????

Can I outspeed this thing

Technically I can sleep but then I start at 0 food

Fuck it we ball I've eaten a flower

It didn't react at all

Okay so I've continued going and this bum ass wither storm is camping my way forward what do I even do

[stoic nimbus]

Just wait or try to bait the wither out or something

CREATUREEE, RETREATTTTT

[stoic nimbus]

It's just a pathetic lizor!

[candid briar]

I was just milliseconds away from being shocked to death

[stoic nimbus]

By a centipede?

[candid briar]

By the rain

I am max karma zero food if I die here I ragequit until tomorr

I've made it through

Just gotta get to the next shelter now

FIVE PEBBLES = REACHED ✅
NEXT SHELTER = SLEPT IN ✅
GRAPPLING HOOK = STILL IN MY HAND ✅

I seem to be floating.

I seem to be adcending

Ascending*

Going left is a terrible idea because I have no clue what is there and I seem to have no way to stop myself but WE BALL WE BALL WE BALL

NEURON SPOTTED

THERE ARE WITHER STORMS IN FIVE PEBBLES???

That's enough for today

[stoic nimbus]

Woops

But yeah you are going the right way

and enjoy the asmr everytime you die to a wither storm!

[stoic nimbus]

YEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[candid briar]

Do I have to go through Five Pebbles (normal) or Five Pebbles (fucked up)

[languid oyster]

What's the difference

[stoic nimbus]

Yeah wym?

[candid briar]

One is just called Five Pebbles and the other is called something like Five Pebbles (Unfortunate Disaster) or something like that

I believe it's a subsection

And there were presumably earthquakes or something

Well probably just malfunctions

Theory time

Moon and Five Pebbles are manning these things like power rangers

With all the neurons controlling different parts

[stoic nimbus]

Oh yeah you gotta go through five pebbles, which leads you into unfortunate development

[candid briar]

Except Moon's mecha(? I don't think they're actually mechas but idk what to call them) broke down and presumably sunk underwater

[candid briar]

Fuuuck

That area looks fucked up bruh

[stoic nimbus]

oh you cooking here mate

[stoic nimbus]

This theory is super fun tbh

[stoic nimbus]

It builds character, and makes you much stronger by the end of it

[candid briar]

The only thing I've yet to figure out is the origin and nature of those other two things

[stoic nimbus]

you can do it

[candid briar]

I'm not sure if Moon and Five Pebbles are slugcats or not

And I'm not sure if they were made (genetically engineered) or kidnapped

If my other theories are correct I'm gonna assume they're kidnapped

[stoic nimbus]

The savior of them both

[languid oyster]

Unfortunate Development is optional

If it is too frustrating for you

There are forks in the road earlier. They'll get you where you need.

[candid briar]

Before or in five pebbles?

[heavy cape]

[languid oyster]

In

[candid briar]

Excellent

[stoic nimbus]

Eh but like i said, unfortunate development builds character

[candid briar]

Next time just say it'll make me want to pull my hair out

[candid briar]

Me: I'm going to click "up" because I want to go up

Rain World: 0.2 miles per hour to the left, got it

[narrow sail]

Very little of zero-gravity movement involves pressing the direction you actually want to go

[wraith bloom]

ah you've reached the part where freedom becomes a complete lie!!

[narrow sail]

I mean not really

[candid briar]

Me when I make an enemy that you cannot wrestle away from but also takes 30 seconds to kill you

[narrow sail]

as we said before, the unfortunate part is optional

[candid briar]

Literally is there any way to break out when this wall cancer touches me

What the fuck is the point of it grappling me and then holding me still for 10 seconds before finally deciding to eat me

[wraith bloom]

unless you're stubborn

[candid briar]

Rain World made Shorelines to prove they can make fun level design, they just don't actually want to

Like Adam Sandler making uncut gems

[narrow sail]

funny thing is there are plenty of new players that hate Shoreline

[wraith bloom]

ironically the main water area feels like a breath of fresh air

[candid briar]

They're wrong I'm afraid

[narrow sail]

(mostly because it's a maze and they don't know how to swim)

[candid briar]

I can shove a spear into its' mouth when it has 1 small tentacle attached to me from 5 miles away

And it'll still do nothing

[candid briar]

Made it through to Recursion but I haven't found a shelter yet

I have fallen off and am now doomed to pass through this tunnel at incredibly small speeds

[languid oyster]

There are measures to control your movement in zero g

[candid briar]

Yeah I managed to reach one of the walls (? Technically floor and roof) and boost myself off

Unfort didn't have anything in my hand at the time

AND RIGHT AFTER THEY MAKE A STAGE HAZARD THAT AUTOKILLS YOU AND ONLY TRIGGERS ON CONTACT???

[candid briar]

I WAS LITERALLY RIGHT LOOOOOL

Why couldn't the wall disease be like this

[narrow sail]

Dying slowly and painfully is ✨atmospheric✨

it's intentionally a slow-paced game

[stoic nimbus]

I was thinking this game was kinda mid, but when i realized the game accurately depicts the feeling of slowly getting broken down into nutrients by the wither, i realized i had something real in my han- paws

[candid briar]

I've gone full circle and ended up back into regular Five Pebbles

So I'm gonna assume I need to go through the communist blocks right after Unfortunate Development

I forgot what they're called

Something about memories maybe

[stoic nimbus]

Oh noo

[stoic nimbus]

Wiat no need to

there's a path you can take inside that side of five pebbles that lets you skip the difficult unfortunate development sections

[candid briar]

I know, recursion

That's where I went through

And ended up back at the start

I assume this is just two alternate paths

[stoic nimbus]

Wait really?

lemme look at the map

[candid briar]

Somewhere near the start

[languid oyster]

They took a big loop

Yes you can just backtrack through recursion to the blocks area

[stoic nimbus]

Yeah recursive is good

i played the game in portuguese didn't kmow subregion names well

[stoic nimbus]

Lol yeah

[candid briar]

Five Pebbles = Found ✅

They're talking to me in various letters can we switch to something I understand please

Oh this is a PowerPoint presentation

OH WE TALKING

Five Pebbles murdered me cuz I pissed them off

[stoic nimbus]

Stabbed them or dilly dallied?

[candid briar]

The latter

[stoic nimbus]

xD

Did you leave through the access pipe?

[candid briar]

Nope

I left and entered a few times and then died and just walked back all the way

Currently in I think Memory Crypts or Shaded Citadel

Bringing a neuron to Moon and then I'm gonna try to figure out where Farm Arrays are

1. They said it's "past" Farm Arrays
2. There's a door I need the Mark to open (according to Five Pebbles)

So I'm gonna assume it's like an early game area that's blocked off

(Metroidvania vibes)

So probably gonna backtrack all the way to Outskirts cuz I wanted to explore that more anyway and I think it's the furthest west I've gone

Considering I specifically need to descend I don't think they're talking about Sky Islands nor anything connected to it

Anyway I read a bit about the Downpour campaigns and I think I'm gonna eventually buy it, probably spring sale

||Rivulet seems hype with the new rain mechanics||

||Didn't read anything story-wise, at least nothing important||

||I believe one is a "prequel" and one a "sequel" and that's basically all I know||

||And I also heard the name Seven Red Suns dropped which is a sick as fuck name high aura behaviour||

[languid oyster]

Keep in mind not to detail about any downpour exclusive content in a vanilla thread

[candid briar]

Oh true

Do I spoiler or delete

What're the rules

[stoic nimbus]

Wowlol, next time you go to five pebbles as another scug try to exit thru it! (and not piss him off xD)
it's alot faster!

[candid briar]

Yeah he did say it was a direct exit but I really wanted to fuck around and find out

Besides I did need to pick up a neuron

(I picked up two but dropped the other one by accident and cba to throw the cycle)

[languid oyster]

I don't think you'll get trouble for any of the above, it's vague enough. Seven red suns also isn't exclusively downpour and hence you get away with that on technicality

[candid briar]

I'll just spoiler it then just in case

My tendency to type 9 separate messages has finally come to bite me in the ass as I change each one individually

[stoic nimbus]

Btw i reccomend you start exploring a bit once you get to moon instead of trying to directly course a plot, you might find some cool stuff or a shortcut to your destination!

[candid briar]

Low-key I kinda wanna beat the game and then do extra content on Hunter

Is there anything M/S exclusive I can miss?

[stoic nimbus]

Negative negative

[languid oyster]

Deletion/not posting any specific dp or watcher information, regardless of if a player or helper

[languid oyster]

Doing first playthrough of surv on vanilla is recommended

It is the clean concise original experience

[candid briar]

No I mean I wanna beat the game normally on Survivor and then explore the rest of the areas as Hunter

[stoic nimbus]

And besides if you have downpour on you might not be able to properly discuss your playthrough if you like accidentally do downpour content

[candid briar]

Like as Survivor just follow the plot and then fuck around as Hunter

[languid oyster]

Ah

[candid briar]

Maybe try to climb chimneys again

[languid oyster]

Well hunter has its own plot so you'll be doing that too

[candid briar]

Might hit a friend up for a multiplayer playthrough for one of the downpour slugs

Though that's for another time

[languid oyster]

Every slugcat is its own story with its own place in the world

[stoic nimbus]

Your friend is already cracked at the game?

[candid briar]

My friend said it's their favourite game lol

Well I say friend but

It's a person I know online so idk if that's the right word

[languid oyster]

Multiplayer is quite fun, a lot of the campaigns are more impactful playing alone and without risk of spoilage fron a companion though

[stoic nimbus]

Yeah tell your friend to ONLY attempt to follow you, and to not try to chart a path ahead

and to avoid talking about the lore

or if you see something new, that he should let you find out what it is

[candid briar]

I see

Any suggestions on which slug is most fun with another player?

Like do any of them have multiplayer interactions

[stoic nimbus]

Eh that's pretty subjective, are you going for how much it'd fit in the lore and gameplay loop or sheer fun value?

[candid briar]

Gameplay and fun

[stoic nimbus]

The game assumes player 1 is alone if that's what you're asking, so player two will not show up in cutscenes or whatever

[candid briar]

Meant more like gameplay stuff

Like ||Rivulet|| would be shitty to play with probably

Wait

Can you pick differing Slugcats or is it the same one

[stoic nimbus]

Yeah you can pick differing

[candid briar]

Yeah then it'd just be hell to play with unless they pick the same one

I've seen uh

||Artificer|| having some crazy shit

[stoic nimbus]

||Artificer|| with Artificer's arsenal mod on is pure gamerfuel and some of the biggest fun i have ever had in gaming

Tho it might be a good idea for you to play as Gourmand first, because you might be disappointed at playing someone so slow after playing someone very nimble like arti or rivulet

but you can play in any order that suits ya

[candid briar]

Noted

I'm glad there's more fast-paced stuff

Survivor is definitely amazing and I'm having fun but every time I'm met with an enemy I kinda wish I had other options than pick a god and pray

[stoic nimbus]

Eh In the grander scheme of things you're still a newbie (haven't yet beaten surv) so it's fine that combat is such a cointoss for you, in the future it'll become alot more manageable

[stoic nimbus]

Agreed!

[languid oyster]

You can always kill said enemy

Combat is very intimidating at first, by design

With practice and experience you'll get a better hold of it

Almost everything in the game bleeds.

[heavy cape]

well

you may have a difficult time killing the ground

but

[languid oyster]

Believe it or not there's a mod for that

[stoic nimbus]

Seeeendddddddddddd

[candid briar]

Not fast enough it seems

Tbh I think my last few deaths have been me jumping down 3 rooms of the Leg straight and landing directly into a wither storm or alligator

I still call them wither storms cuz I have no clue what their names are and even if I did it'd just feel wrong

[heavy cape]

the creature thing™

[languid oyster]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3017757842

If l would choose l think gourmand is a good scug to play as multiplayer

Won't give the reasons of course but it'd lend itself well

And it is a very fun campaign despite people's aversions to his mechanics

[stoic nimbus]

Both gormands or OP is the only one?

[languid oyster]

Just gotta cooperate with them

[languid oyster]

Both surely

[stoic nimbus]

Lmao that's hilarious

[languid oyster]

Slugcats in different campaigns feels ungainly

Fish out of water

[stoic nimbus]

His friend could also be monk, so that OP can get more food and do most of the cool stuff

[languid oyster]

Campaigns are designed specifically with their specific scug to traverse

[stoic nimbus]

Ideally only OP can make progress, if his friend dies OP should keep going, if OP dies then his friend should die too

[languid oyster]

Perchance

[stoic nimbus]

@candid briar When you get downpour ask your friend if for the gourmand campaign they wanna be a second gourmand or a monk (monk weak physically but eats less)

[candid briar]

Bet

[narrow sail]

If you could kill predators easily, they wouldn't be very good predators, now would they?

[languid oyster]

The eating amount makes no difference, they will share the same foodbar

[stoic nimbus]

Oh really? Wow disn't know that xD

that is assuming they use jolly co op or meadow?

[languid oyster]

Yes there's no other multiplayers than those

[candid briar]

Made it back to Moon but I seem to have lost

The neuron I stored

Well that'll be a job for Hunter

Off to the farm arrays

Also watcher adds HOW MANY new areas???

[true pilot]

To say would be a spoiler

[candid briar]

Nah I was researching the new things added

[primal leaf]

Adds a number of regions between 0 and the integer limit

But not one more, else the game would have a negative amount of regions

[heavy cape]

its probably best not to

even that can be a spoiler

[stoic nimbus]

For how long have you had that about me? xD

[heavy cape]

not as long as youd think

[stoic nimbus]

Got some emesis blue flashbacks with that message but eyyy thanks for promoting rain world watcher dlc

[candid briar]

Eh

Idm being spoiled a bit if it means I can get a better idea of if I want to buy it or not

[candid briar]

Hello early game area

I believe I've made it to garbage wastes after hearing it mentioned 80 times

What in the flying fuck is a Scavenger Toll

Well

After hearing something from Moon and now this I can safely say the shadow wizard money gang is called Scavengers

[stoic nimbus]

Woooo nice job figuring out!

[stoic nimbus]

It's a tool, nuff said

[candid briar]

THERE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A MISUNDERSTANDING