#first playthrough and miscellaneous

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somber fox
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idk that seems hearable

manic siren
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idk maybe my sfx are too low, it was mostly visual for me :D

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i am not gonna make that jump

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i'm praying that if i fall i end up in the area below and won't die

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phew

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oh i just noticed the slugcat closes his eyes when remembering the map

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cute

somber fox
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its because he’s really really stupid and his brain hurts when he uses it

manic siren
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i don't blame him, the map is immense :D

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having photographic memory when fighting for your life is a gift

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i really hope vultures receive a miniscule amount of damage when slamming into platforms trying to fish someone out

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it wouldn't change anything, but i would find it fair

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i stole an exploding spear and i'm not afraid to use it, birds!!

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wow man, cool terrain for long jumps

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no downsides

manic siren
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okay, new gate

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this should be new 100%, none of the regions i've visited could be so high up

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another gate where something steamy is happening instead of cooling heat with water

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i know nothing about mechanical things like this

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Sky islands!

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intro music is goated

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bruhhh i forgot that i need a new shelter to stay in the region

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orange lizards

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something new

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another gate! horizontally opposite

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interesting

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communications array!

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a new name

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weird that there are no vultures yet

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in sky islands

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noo it's a pearl tower

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i was looking for a shelter rivsob

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barely got to the shelter before rain

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on a long cycle

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nomad theory: you have to sleep 4 times in a row in 4 different regions

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i love the flora on the sky islands

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didn't expect it

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oof flying squids are cool

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the feather falling

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bruh they have expiration date apparently

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safari region unlocked again?? weird

vestal granite
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You unlocked a different safari region last time huntersip

manic siren
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hm

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weird, there seems to be so many places unaccessible without a squid

vestal granite
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There's more than one way to cross a chasm

manic siren
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it's funny how i don't even understand whether squids are helping me willingly :D

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they seem to dash at me, but not sure if they're attacking or suggesting a ride

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SquidDash

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another stroke

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orange lizards again

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this place again, but they ate my squiddy :(

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oh god, these lizards' horns or whatever they are

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they look like those snails with those parasites

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endless wall climbing with a squid discovered

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don't understand the antenna bugs' deal yet

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finally, big mosquitoes encounter

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oh god so much space

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please give me a shelter...

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well, this counts

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i don't think squid will survive my hibernation, but i'll hope

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OHHH HE'S ALIVE

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LET'S GO

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i love you squiddy

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can't wait to be able to traverse the map freely mostly by memory

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and have a clear bigger picture in my head

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somehow it doesn't take too long for an area you've spent some time in to become really familiar

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if i don't use passages, i should achieve it eventually

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i'd comment on how beautiful the centipedes here are, but my rivalry with them overcomes the urge to compliment

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they are stupidly dangerous

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and i have no idea how would you even try to befriend them

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they don't eat shit

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they exist to harm it seems :p

manic siren
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i wonder if blind lizard kills count towards dragon slayer

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or they're more like salamanders and not lizards

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i hope my squid is a good boy and stays inside the shelter cuz i need to explore with my both hands free

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i don't know why i thought all creatures die in shelters if you hibernate

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as if i'm the only immortal thing

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he was not, in fact, a good boy

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hunting bats is a weirdly funny process

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i remember when i first saw them in the intro, i thought the slugcat family was attacked by these bats and i would be the only survivor

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but then they started eating them and i got silenced

vestal granite
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LMAO

manic siren
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the slugcats genuinely don't look like predators lol

vestal granite
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batflysad killer bat

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Well, cats are predators monksilly

manic siren
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i mean yeah, but cats have claws, teeth, and all that

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while these look like pillows :3

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and i'm playing an especially bloodthirsty pillow

somber fox
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even more stereotypical herbivores will sneak some meat if they can

manic siren
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this a trippy-looking area

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but pretty

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the whole sky islands area has avatar vibes

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colorful, a lot of plants, warm gradients might suggest warm climate

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i'm going to start storing pearls in my shelters

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idk why never thought of that before

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noo it's such a pity that these three areas don't have direct connections apparently

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only through tunnels

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tho i didn't try jumping to check if it's true, but don't wanna risk it right now

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feels like i'm moving away from this region too fast, but the completionist instinct is deceptive here

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i'll explore everything everywhere anyway

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Farm arrays!

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i think it's the 10th region already

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if i didn't know any better, i'd hope for the abundance of food in a place called "farm arrays"

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but we'll see

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something tells me these things are not part of the background

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they are leditoroverload

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"the use of some objects might not be obvious at first"

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the tutorial is almost finished

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holy shit

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no comments

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i'll call them mega bunnies

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this is the best i can do

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haha, i didn't caught that, but this vulture just came up to the bunny and started rubbing against him

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looked like an affection

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if vultures knew what it is

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oh no who thought of this

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there should be a shelter behind that

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mushrooms, i count on you

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bruh what, the spears don't stick to walls either

vestal granite
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Depends on the wall

manic siren
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yeah i thought it would be possible here cause i couldn't wall jump to that pole

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hmm

vestal granite
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I wouldn't stress too much about this room leditoroverload

manic siren
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which makes me even more determined to solve it

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ik i probably don't have something specific which would help me

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but so far doing things the hard ways also worked out

manic siren
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these were 25 minutes of hell and vultures, but i managed to collect enough karma for another venture into the farm

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time to continue suffering, but in a different way

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of course i got a short cycle! naturally

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nice, a much more convenient shelter

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finally

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time to experiment with the eldritch bunny

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"wiggling around might startle this creature" the game told me after i literally stabbed it

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got it

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touch-starved grass field

manic siren
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if those rhombi in the upper right corner are actually shelters, then it's insane how many of them are in the farm arrays

jagged pawn
manic siren
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thoughts for now:

  • gotta figure out how to counter touchy grass (gotta try bombs)
  • gotta study the mega bunnies
  • gotta find some bubble plant to get to that another shelter
  • gotta stop forgetting to store pearls
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also i just found out, or maybe rediscovered that small mosquitoes are edible

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just like with centipedes

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except mosquitoes are much less toxic

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and dodgeable

manic siren
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"🗡️🦟"

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bruh what, it's different on pc

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or in discord

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idk how it works

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the last time was quite tedious and frustrating, time to be more patient and meticulous in exploring

manic siren
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scavenger toll found

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entangling insects are a nightmare

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the ambiguity of monkeys' attitude towards you is kinda annoying

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i stood for a solid minute in front of like 5 of them, and only then they killed me

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also a dandelion killed a big mosquito for some reason

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no way are these pearls

jagged pawn
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want a tip?

manic siren
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no

jagged pawn
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ok

jagged pawn
manic siren
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glad this grass isn't as strong as leeches

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pretty easy to free oneself

jagged pawn
manic siren
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it almost seems like the dandelions work only on insects

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idk how it's explained lorewise but we'll see

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i massacred all of the monkey camp... except one.

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and he killed me when i tried to make a proud screenshot

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karma

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roguelike 3.0, running the same path over and over again

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good for memory

vestal granite
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Violence begets violence

manic siren
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yep

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i know there is something like a trading system with monkeys, and reputation, but i'm postponing it

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mb this is what i'll do as monk

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very inconvenient place when there is a corpse

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finally i managed to steal a grenade without immediately throwing it

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finally i'm out of this hell

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if this is gonna be followed with an even bigger camp

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it's gonna be hilarious

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also didn't expect them to have a blue bug in the camp

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yum

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marvelous

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the kills... and the outlaw progress from 0

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that grenade prolly took 3 of them at once

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what monster am i

jagged pawn
manic siren
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okay i finally slept with a pearl in my shelter, and nothing really happened

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i forgot to store them like 20 times already

thick yacht
manic siren
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aaand i lost all my outlaw progress

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thought it would deplete little by little

vestal granite
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It depends on the passage leditoroverload

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Time to murderize again rivevil

manic siren
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yep i really can't dedicate myself to any more or less difficult passage

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and oh my god, dandelions are awesome

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neutralizing my main enemies

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the centipedes

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wait what since when i can't store prey in my tummy

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i thought it worked with bats before

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maybe i'm crazy or the little centipedes are just too big

jagged pawn
manic siren
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the grass is so ungrateful

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thought something would happen if i gave it a centipede but it just nipped it and reaching out for more

manic siren
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i'm figuring out everything by myself so far

thick yacht
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@jagged pawn please refrain from spoiling posters

manic siren
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i kinda expected the farm arrays to be quite flat in terrain

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cuz, you know, farms

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but there are a lot of levels

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weird place, don't see any way up yet

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even with spears

jagged pawn
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can i give you a tip how to get up

manic siren
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hidden way down which i barely noticed

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could've missed it

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oh, more pearls

jagged pawn
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porl

manic siren
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can't believe i seldom progress the "hunter" passage

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i think for monk and hunter you have to ONLY be herbivorous or carnivorous during a run

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means that most of my runs are mixed

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wonder if the "hunter" character can't eat fruits at all

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the least backtrackable place i've seen

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wow, unusual music

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god, the grass is so STOIC

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never changes its behavior

vestal granite
manic siren
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although yeah, there were big long pipes before

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i just tried not to jump in them just in case

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man i really underestimated grass before

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3 deaths from grass in the same place

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uhh the direction of movement mechanics in narrow tunnels become annoying

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especially in places where they're partially hidden by roots or other visual stuff

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you just can't see where you should start turning

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and end up correcting yourself every time trying not to move with your butt forward

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bruh finally, tenth attempt or so

somber fox
manic siren
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even dandelions don't counter the determined grass

manic siren
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plus very close to shelter so no big loss

somber fox
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well actually

manic siren
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death pits in chimney canopy were insane

somber fox
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it baits you into doing jumps anyway

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so ig its like a fun way about it

manic siren
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gotta find a squiddy

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for the red pearl

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still no idea what they do but there is no way they are useless

manic siren
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although i wouldn't be able to bypass this grass with a regular jump anyway

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well, shit

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ohhhh yeahhhh

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glad i thought of this

somber fox
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oh dear

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a deer

manic siren
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my dear reindeer raindeer in rainworld

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the amount of grass

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what a gentlemen!

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or gentleman

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idk how you say it

somber fox
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men is like plural

manic siren
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got it :p

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it's just that the loanword in my language has "e" regardless

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it messed with my brain there for a second

manic siren
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they're cute

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but i'm still gonna try again

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gate prediction

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i gotta stop my gate predictions

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they don't work

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mega bunnies are my favourite animals in this game so far

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the leviathans are the second place

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i have a thing for gigantic eldritch stuff

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what is happening????

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the shelter suddenly half-filled with water and the screen is shaking at the start of a cycle

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interesting

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and stressful

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well it's not early rain for sure, otherwise the water would already appear

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but what the hell

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hmm and it stopped pretty soon

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never seen such a long shake even with leviathans

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unless one got stuck like lizards usually are

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twitching against a wall

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wait what, it's actually raining!

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but not deadly

somber fox
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it looks completely dry in the photo thou garloaf

manic siren
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yeah i couldn't catch that

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it was really subtle

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and now it stopped

somber fox
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its a bit more interesting if you get to see it earlier

manic siren
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this run is so trippy

somber fox
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it’s very spaghetti routing

manic siren
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hm

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my horsey abandoned me :(

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yay it got back

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such an emotionally dynamic game :D

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bunny comes — happy
bunny leaves — sad

somber fox
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oh man it 100% is a bunny huh

manic siren
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three eyes at once! never seen that many yet

manic siren
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left alone for too long and grown roots

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so atmospheric, and music too

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a bit of Guardian vibes

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dunno exactly how that game is called

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with Trico

somber fox
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is that the giant dog

manic siren
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yeah

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eaglecatdog

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would really fit in this game's fauna too

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where every species is something combined with something apparently

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thank you for your service

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i'm 100% gonna die in a minute so i'll be back

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the eyes are kinda creepy

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where's my yellow dude rivsob

somber fox
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hey you saw them a second ago

manic siren
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well!

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i'm attached to them

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bruh i got a little bit of Chieftain progression after just hunting centipedes

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outskirts prediction

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THERE IS NO WAY

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grass is new arch nemesis

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the soundtrack is very moony if i would say so

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no region name shown yet and i need another karma level just in case

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the suspense is crazy

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attempt #2

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everything is fine leditoroverload

somber fox
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huh thats kinda confusing

manic siren
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discovery: small grass also kills you if you don't escape

manic siren
somber fox
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the fails part

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i kinda assumed that room would be mostly harmless

manic siren
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hmm

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i so need to learn the backflip vertical spear placement for this popcorn

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but i rarely even can make backflips

somber fox
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i mean hey you can try now

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if you practice with rocks those would be reusable too

manic siren
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yeah but i still have some karma

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i'll prolly try if i lose all of it

manic siren
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interesting

somber fox
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i mean, since they won’t get stuck

manic siren
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good tunnel

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really useful

manic siren
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oookay, this is where my decision to play left-handed only backfires

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i have to press q with my fourth finger (don't remember its name)

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while moving with wasd

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okay i think i figured out backplifs

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you just have to be very angry at your keyboard

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i wonder if the karma level goes up if you starve

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OHH WAIT you have to press down for the vertical spear

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i'm an idiot

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this is so obvious

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so another button to press

vestal granite
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Oh nice job learning that slugnom

manic siren
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yeah but i still haven't succeeded

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and lost most of my karma

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and i'm kinda stuck

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this is gonna be interesting

manic siren
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huh fully submerged room with no room above

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interesting

vestal granite
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What the hell?

manic siren
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wha

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maybe i died before the room switch though

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can't be sure

manic siren
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either just flora or i gotta check it out someday

vestal granite
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Pov you're the third slugcat fighting to get on noah's ark

manic siren
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ohh i just realized this room wasn't submerged before the flood

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of course

manic siren
vestal granite
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Outdoor rooms get rain

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Indoor rooms start filling with water

manic siren
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huh

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maybe i'm misremembering something but i think all rooms eventually flooded for me

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e.g. if you follow the flood upwards or survive the rain long enough

vestal granite
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The curtain of rain's pretty dense at full power, guess the death screen can be interpreted to look like that leditoroverload

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This has like swimmable water though, very funny look for it. Obviously just an uncommon glitch

manic siren
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don't you survive the rain if you're standing under a canopy of something? or is it only possible for a short time

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and then it kills you anyway

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hmm i have a lore theory

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if we take the entirety of the map as some kind of big machine

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then maybe the rain is supposed to cool the system down when the life within it gets too active

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just like at the gates

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at the same time, some gates have steam instead of water

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hm

vestal granite
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That is a very, very interesting theory. hunterthinking

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Dude you've got to stop

jagged pawn
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ok):

manic siren
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idk what they wrote but i ain't reading any of that right after i made a lore theory :D

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i can dodge monkeys' spears, means i can dodge spoilers monkfarious

manic siren
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also a thing i noticed earlier, i could for some reason climb really really fast in narrow tunnels if i'm dragging a corpse with me

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don't know why it happened and whether it was supposed to happen at all

vestal granite
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There's a lot of jank physics interactions to be found; very fun for speedrunners to play around with

manic siren
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the murderer's guilt speed boost

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"oh no i must hide the body as soon as possible"

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i just realized what "scavenger's toll" means

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turns out i forgot the meaning of "toll"

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it was tax collector outpost

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who are they taxing though when i'm not around

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i'm the only sentient creature around except other scavengers

vestal granite
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Taxing the lizards

manic siren
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or being taxed by vultures

vestal granite
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A pyramid scheme all along

somber fox
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i imagine its ordinarily just multiple tribes of scavengers or something

manic siren
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well at least they don't divide into tribes based on looks

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pure politics :p

manic siren
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still learning to backflip

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thought you need to press opposite direction + jump simultaneously, but it needs to be a quick succession direction -> jump

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gotta add down to the succesion, and then throw

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my left hand never thought it could be used for such complicated tasks

jagged pawn
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oh yeah i struggled with backflips a lot when i was startin thats normal

manic siren
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it's like giving a janitor additional job related to what people do in the offices the janitor cleans up

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"you work close to them, you should know what to do"

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could've just make a wasd-like configuration on the right side of my keyboard, but i'm too far now

jagged pawn
manic siren
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seems easier to succeed when i focus on the character's movement rather than key combination

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guess it's easier to process for my brain

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that i need to make the slug turn abruptly first, and only then jump

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NO WAY

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100% i'm not gonna be able to do it again in the next 10 hours of gameplay

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felt like luck

vestal granite
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I'm right handed l could never do such precision with my left

jagged pawn
manic siren
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it genuinely seems like the most difficult movement thing in the game

jagged pawn
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it is

vestal granite
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Not really

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It is a very messy fingermash to learn at first tho

manic siren
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i mean yeah, i'm sure the speedrunners have much more tricks

vestal granite
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But harder movement tricks exist, and l dare not touch em

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Did l bring up the movement doc thing before?

manic siren
vestal granite
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Yup, an actively updated 150 page google doc chronicling movement

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Some are intentionally incorporated inputs, some are unintentional exploits of the physics

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You can do anything in this game slugSweat

manic siren
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what is bigger, lore or that doc?

vestal granite
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Good question leditoroverload

jagged pawn
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jk

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the doc

vestal granite
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The lore is a great iceberg, but that iceberg is secretly the tip to another larger iceberg we haven't answered

manic siren
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i wonder how are you even supposed to reach that popcorn otherwise, without the vertical spear

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if you use a squid, you'd have to let go of it every time to take a bite

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and it would escape constantly

manic siren
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and intriguing

vestal granite
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Indeed huntersip

manic siren
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oh my poor keyboard, can't believe i did it

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for no reason though, because there is even less food now

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a really tight pickle i am in

vestal granite
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We have a lot of elaborate answers to things you haven't begun to comprehend yet with your still fresh and surface level scratch, but they still generate their own questions, and the game deliberately leaves some stuff for our imaginations

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It definitely makes it very personal monksilly every set of eyes can build their own ideas and theories

manic siren
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usually that's something i hear about games which have things like ARG

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wonder if it's achieved with something completely different

vestal granite
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Rainworld has used args before

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The Watcher dlc mostly

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It had very secluded advertising and used an arg series to reveal teasers or snippets about it before release

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You won't have to worry about having to dig up rainworld's story out-of-game though.

manic siren
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i would be really bad at this anyway, people who do args seem to have really special minds

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i almost broke down trying to understand what an arg even is 😭

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welp, we reached the absolute scarcity and there is literally no other way but to wait for the bunny

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either i'm missing something, or this is the first place that requires just waiting and nothing else

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like, with lizards you could distract them in some way or something

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the stoic grass doesn't care

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although i didn't really try building a spear ladder in that other place

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maybe they persist between deaths

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whether they do or not seems really inconsistent

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or arbitrary depending on the place

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so far i don't think i saw hidden tunnels to places which are not cul-de-sacs

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like scavenger storage rooms

vestal granite
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What do you seek

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Food?

manic siren
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it's main objective, though it would be preferable to get to the previous shelter for a more free scavenging

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(not asking for tips btw)

vestal granite
manic siren
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i shall overcome the suffering eventually

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it's also fun how getting stuck doesn't get boring cuz each pickle is different

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ofc in the future it will probably be different for me

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bruh what the hell are these additional tunnels leading to nowhere

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i swear i'll implode if one of the next cycles brings a lizard out of this tunnel

vestal granite
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I wouldn't fret too much over unconventional rooms like these lizblueblep

manic siren
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well it's not like i have any other choice :p

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the bunny's ghosting me

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i'm 100% sure the spears will disappear after the rain which is super nigh

vestal granite
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You don't have to rely on random chance with the bunnies rivclose you have more control over the situation than you think

somber fox
vestal granite
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No detailing ofc as per your request

manic siren
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yeah this seems to be the case constantly :D i'm thinking

somber fox
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thats also how it works in super mario 64 for example

manic siren
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my fingers are just not very skilled in this

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never played any games with complicated combos like this

somber fox
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is the one handed controls like an accessibility thing btb or is it like just because

manic siren
somber fox
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it doesnt sound comfortable

vestal granite
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Yeah having to work seven buttons with one hand is very uncomfy

somber fox
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i mightve misremembered who’s who

manic siren
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but so far possible

somber fox
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if it helps you can always remap to wasd controls

manic siren
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maybe i'll change them eventually

somber fox
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yknow wasd for dpad, spacebar for jump

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idk what else

manic siren
vestal granite
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In your shoes l woulda just binded directionals to other nicer shaped buttons

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I do NOT like spacebar jump leditoroverload

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It's too big and clunky a key

somber fox
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maybe but its the default for like wasd stuff so thats what a lot of people are probably used to

vestal granite
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I know I'm in the minority though

manic siren
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the spacebar is the least problematic for me, it's the movement maneuvres (i have no idea how to spell this rn) and things that require a lot of buttons pressed at once or in quick succession

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ik it's super unconventional

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i couldn't do walljumping at all though when i used arrow keys

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i really struggled with coordinating the two hands properly

somber fox
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which seems kinda weird, i wouldnt consider backflips to be advanced or hard at all but you seem to have a good grasp of the game controls otherwise

manic siren
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this way all muscle memory is at least stored in one hand

manic siren
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or like i said, no experience with combos in other games

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idk, we'll see :p

somber fox
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have you played platformers before

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i brought up mario 64 earlier for example

manic siren
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i haven't played a lot of things people usually play

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and i don't remember most of what i did play

somber fox
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mm

manic siren
#

mario 64 no

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idk, brain's empty :D

#

can't remember anything

#

okay so you do progress in karma if you starve!

#

and i have martyr progress for the first time

#

interesting

#

have to be related to starving

somber fox
#

is this your first time starving?

manic siren
#

no, another one was very deep in drainage, in a very dark area

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there was a shelter next to gate

#

and i was super lost

#

and confused by the darkness

#

i eventually drowned in a very small puddle because my slugcat was exhausted

somber fox
#

i mean tbf slugcats just do that normally anyway

manic siren
#

:p

#

also funny how they're literally immune to any fall damage if the rooms are connected directly

#

just "ouch"

#

and they're fine

#

but if you jump down in the area you don't remember cuz you went through a tunnel—you're dead

#

idk actually what would be the explanation, that's just my first thought

somber fox
#

maybe, very occasionally, youre on a different depth layer

manic siren
somber fox
#

in general you just have to accept that if you go through a pipe the other room might as well not exist

vestal granite
#

Rainworld is a 3d universe being seen through a 2d lens

manic siren
#

i mean yeah that actually makes sense

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maybe beneath the screen is the touchy grass

#

omnipresent

vestal granite
#

Maybe there's a lava pit

somber fox
#

theres an accessibility setting in remix that makes the death barriers more obvious btb

vestal granite
#

Yeah

somber fox
#

if its yknow a problem

manic siren
#

huh

#

gotta check it up

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tho i'll probably forget about it during this run

somber fox
#

see that dark gradient at the bottom?

manic siren
#

huh

#

yeah i see what you're saying

vestal granite
#

You tell the difference between a pit that leads to Death and one that leads to More Room via said gradient

manic siren
#

never thought of that

vestal granite
#

The remix setting makes the gradient bigger and bolder

manic siren
#

that's actually super helpful

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thanks!

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also does the slugcat change in color when starving or i'm crazy?

somber fox
#

yeah they do

manic siren
#

i wore pitch black skin during the first starving, and then i became white

vestal granite
#

Also become skinnier monksilly

somber fox
#

survivor is normally white so theyre the hardest to tell with

manic siren
#

interesting

manic siren
#

i literally had to track eye movement

vestal granite
#

Watcherin'

manic siren
#

well, i hope that guy has night vision then :D

#

yay they persisted!

#

now i just have to handle drunk parkour

#

yep my guy can't hold onto them while catching his breath

#

no way, are flies following me because of my condition

#

that's even more sad

#

...not the grass again

#

i'm clearly doing something really wrong with this grass

#

maybe i need to hurry constantly, but idk

#

my dear tentacled friends, i'm really not tasty right now

#

irrelevant dedication to pull me down

#

phew i barely escaped their grasp before getting exhausted again

#

aaand i'm dead

#

well that's even better

somber fox
#

dang

manic siren
#

at least i'm full of energy right now

#

neither popcorn nor little centipedes want to come back here yet

#

the long-medium-short cycle pattern is either really easy to understand and i'm overcomplicating it

#

or it's completely random and based on pi digits

#

no in-between

#

same with spears persisting between cycles/deaths

#

you know when people get really frustrated and just try to brute-force themselves out of a pickle in videogames

#

i think i need to do that more

#

maybe the grass is bruteforceable

#

waaait

#

what if it's like those roots from harry potter

somber fox
#

i dont rly follow

manic siren
#

i'll explain if i'm wrong

#

nope, i'm wrong

manic siren
somber fox
#

oh that grass

manic siren
#

yeah

#

i just need to sit down and think

#

if i'm clearly doing something wrong, then there's clearly an easier solution

#

so i've noticed that bunnies shriek when i throw a dandelion

#

but because of the game's tip about "startling the creature", i thought it scares them

#

maybe it does

#

or not

#

it came here

#

huh

#

so far they have the most confusing ai for me to understand

#

the dandelion throw is almost silent, so do they have super hearing, super smell? (rhetorical)

#

and dandelions kill insects for some reason

#

also a mystery

manic siren
#

or even just cats

#

oh shit one of them just leaped across the screen with no effort

#

wonder if i can make them go faster by command

#

i just noticed that there are loads of spears there

#

and a toll-like totem

#

so i threw 4 dandelions at once for the sake of the experiment, and 3 bunnies at once came here

#

i don't know if there's a connection

#

hmm there's a fancy orange lizard with very long horns

#

wonder what it means

#

okay so i'm finally back at my previous shelter

#

i don't have a good idea how to fight grass yet, so i'll postpone that gate

#

plus it seems it's part of a region i've already seen, maybe i can find another way there

#

the hidden tunnels are insane, i had no idea there's a way down from there

somber fox
#

hmm

manic siren
#

tunnel-backstabbing lizards and other enemies is broken

#

managed to kill a long-horned lizard

#

not sure what's the difference yet

#

1 more until dragon slayer

somber fox
#

which colours did you kill?

manic siren
#

not sure if lizards with shorter horns count as different lizards

manic siren
#

well based on the question, i guess i need another color :D

somber fox
#

oop

manic siren
#

it's fine!

#

i'm not sensitive towards accidental tips

#

the joy of finally figuring out something you didn't know compensates the joy of figuring it out by yourself

#

top tier coping :D

#

plus i'm so often oblivious about such obvious things it's hard not to spoil something accidentally

#

my brain works weird

#

the orange lizards are more incompetent than green lizards

#

thought they would be more dangerous because they're new

#

oh i killed a blue eye

#

turns out pole plants are not triggered if you don't grab them

#

apparently

#

another hidden tunnel i would never notice if not for the map

#

farm arrays is the most confusing area for me so far

#

don't know if it's common

#

huh, i just noticed the 3d animation of a bunny's head turning

#

cool

#

huh i thought remix options don't affect gameplay directly

#

"pull spears from walls"

#

nah it's like making the game 3 times easier

#

seems like it's not a bottomless pit

#

but still scary

#

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HELL IS HAPPENING

#

2 more karma levels unlocked

#

and pilgrim

#

whaaaaaat

#

some kind of octopus

#

hmm

#

i don't know if i should go back and check on that place, i got returned to the last shelter

#

pilgrim is dot-based

#

there should be several locations like that

#

4 i think

#

don't remember

#

yep it's gone now

#

witnessed an eldrith horror beyond my comprehension and woke up with more karma

#

i'm in subterranean somehow

#

this is the biggest shelter i've ever seen

#

a whole underground villa

jagged pawn
manic siren
#

but okay

jagged pawn
#

i dont like subbetainian but every single run i do i end up in it somehow

manic siren
#

that's menacing

jagged pawn
#

never seen that room

manic siren
#

and it even seems like it needs the karma level i don't have yet

#

maybe it's only like after 4 pilgrimages or so

jagged pawn
manic siren
#

oh wait these actually look lowkey like gates

#

or i'm crazy

#

idk

jagged pawn
manic siren
#

all areas are basically new to me, but this subterranean piece feels extra special for some reason

#

and not just because of purple gates

#

i mean maybe a lot of factors got combined

#

that octopus too

#

another series of stupid deaths incoming

#

well that's stressful

jagged pawn
manic siren
#

my lizard guy forgot how to use tunnels and blocking everything

vestal granite
#

They don't want tips regardless lizpinkwatch

manic siren
#

gathergrain i'm not reading any of your messages, sorry

manic siren
#

oh god so many golden lizards

vestal granite
#

I do urge you to recognize when someone's desire is to play without entity spoilers or gameplay tips or other backseating

manic siren
#

well that's inconvenient

vestal granite
#

If maars solicits help, then you give it. Otherwise don't randomly post information that wasn't asked for pls slugnom

manic siren
#

so many wagons underground, interesting

manic siren
#

oh i forgot i still have this joke username

#

the subterranean feels like the horizontally longest region in the game so far

#

while chimney is probably the vertically longest

#

not sure

#

weird looking room but okay

somber fox
manic siren
#

i'm usually just mars, but i had the weird joke idea to extend the amount of a's every day for no reason

#

and i forgot after the first day

#

losing the new karma levels feels especially painful

#

okay i gotta pay some respect to my sleep regime

somber fox
#

oop goodnight

manic siren
#

today was weird in terms of exploration, but i enjoyed it :p

manic siren
#

goodnight to you too, whenever it comes

#

living exactly on the opposite side of the planet from the usa and interacting a lot with the anglophone part of the internet feels surreal in terms of time

#

ik not everyone are americans, but it's the majority often

somber fox
#

especially when remix is like yea its like a super tiny super minor assist yup :)

vestal granite
#

G'night slugwave

#

In my timezone it's pretty late too

#

Luckily l am a teensy bit unemployed hunterok

manic siren
#

first playthrough and my weird left-handed keybind configuration issues

#

first playthrough and my weird left-handed keybind configuration

manic siren
#

well my unemployment strikes again

#

so if i understand correctly, pilgrimage to beautiful eldritch horrors is something important you're supposed to do

#

i'll assume it will do something more than just give me more karma levels in the end

#

but it's cycle 135, 33 hours and i have only met this creature once

#

and i need 3 or 4 more

#

maybe i was super unlucky

#

just gotta explore areas i haven't visited yet

#

i'm feeling cyan today

#

or whatever colour this is

vestal granite
#

I don't think you are super unlucky, they are pretty out of the way

#

Pretty great find hunterthinking

manic siren
#

i really could've missed that little cave and never come back until 20 hours or so

#

blue underground bugs are so far the greatest thing to store in your tummy as a food source

#

healing 2 dots and storeable, unlike centipedes

#

this cluster of tunnels was really confusing to understand

#

almost impossible without using the map

#

only through trial and error

#

it's time to start to value my karma levels

#

it's gonna be a real pain restoring it from 1 to 7

#

but at the same time the desire to kill a golden lizard is strong

#

it'll give me dragon slayer

#

not sure if leviathans can be killed, but if it's true and it doesn't count towards dragon slayer

#

then it's really funny

#

dragon slayer interview:
"i killed the shoreline levi, the sub levi, 7 vultures, 25 salamanders, massacred 4 scavenger tolls, hunted down 5 lizards—"
"only 5? get out"

#

BRUH the golden guy escaped before i could get to him

#

just 1 or 2 more hits and he would be done

#

turns out you can just jump past these tentacles without throwing anything at them

#

the ability to jump and parkour alone makes me one of the most dangerous and adaptable creatures here

#

the centipedes' behavior continues to baffle me

#

not a predator, not sapient

#

attacks for fun

#

i just realized this is literally the interior of the wagon this shelter is in

#

the dark environment made me automatically assume it's a cave

#

starting to use backflips to pick up regular food that is too high

#

good practice for the future

#

tunnel backstab

#

never gets old

#

finally

#

now i'm happy

#

i don't even know what these blue nutritious bugs are

#

they look like a combination of a fruit, a bug and a stone

vestal granite
#

The ones that go Pop!

manic siren
#

yeah

#

though i associated the word "pop" rather with snails

#

which i at first thought were bugs

#

never seen real snails with such shell shapes

#

at least those that don't live in the water

#

what a party!

#

the music is hilarious here

#

idk if it's connected to the room

vestal granite
#

The snail critter in rainworld doesn't necessarily have to be a snail... seen people call them turtles too hunterthinking

manic siren
#

then they're sticky bugs for me

#

partially because they're bugging me with their pops sometimes :p

vestal granite
#

All that matters to slugcat is "yummy. Put that in my mouth"

manic siren
#

so you can eat them

#

maybe i didn't put enough spears in them, smh it never worked out

#

it would actually make the drainage so much easier :D

#

experiment: i'll try to store a dead small centipede in my shelter

#

if it works out, it's kinda broken

vestal granite
#

Oh no that wasn't a confirmation nor denial of if the pop snail thing is edible gourdmorning

#

But always great to experiment with everything, flora and fauna

manic siren
#

reverse phychology :p

#

i'm starting to try to venture on long cycles and keep my karma up all the time

#

it's a little bit more tedious, but i feels calmer and richer

#

the cycles are going up fast this way though

#

144 already

#

still wondering if the number of cycles has any effect on gameplay

#

maybe i'm crazy but it seems i jump a little bit higher after a turn boost even without the backflip

#

still wondering how creatures and food spawn

#

maybe it's the same for predators as it is for food

#

if i kill a predator, it disappears and appears only after a certain amount of deaths/cycles

#

because i killed the golden and blue lizards outside my shelter and they don't bother me anymore

#

wonder for how long

#

one thing for sure, the food and predators disappear after eating/killing them only if i hibernate afterwards

#

but they can reappear after a certain amount of deaths

#

which means that my deaths are not groundhog day

vestal granite
#

Rule of thumb, hibernating is saving the game

manic siren
#

yeah

#

but the respawn is still kinda a mystery

#

i really need to kill this guy somehow

#

he's quite annoying

#

yay a new shelter

#

the centipedes are a menace

#

i think i saw them shocking bats for no reason

#

hmm the shelter doesn't let me hibernate if i don't come out of it at least once

#

wonder if it's intended or not

jagged pawn
#

its intended

manic siren
#

i hibernated with this guy

#

and he killed me while in a shelter

#

yep i'm not seeing those systems at the moment :D

#

he doesn't seem to be able to escape from here, but it's impossible to sleep and really hard to kill him because not enough space

#

stole my home

#

and almost all karma levels

somber fox
#

the keyword is "try"

#

unfortunately the thing they have for lizards in shelters is a little buggy

manic siren
#

finally i managed to spam-spear him

#

at the cost of all of my karma :(

thick yacht
#

it’s not bugged, lizard just physically can’t climb out

somber fox
#

well is the lizard killing you instantly

#

i was also gonna say "also even if it worked the shelter is too small rn anyway" monksilly

manic siren
#

i managed to escape like 50% of the time

#

so it was easier to kill him

#

no karma anyway

#

welp

#

at least he's not gonna be around for some time

#

glad i had a spear here

#

i don't think he himself enjoyed what happened :D

#

bruh i keep defaulting all animals in english to "he"

#

i can't control it

#

the most crammed any of my shelters have ever been

#

though these days i bet i could still still rent it for $300k/month

#

the way dead animals twitch slightly when you enter a room is scary every time

#

the yellow/blue/red rhombi are definitely not shelters

#

no idea what they indicate

#

uhh

#

is it possible to drag a dead golden lizard out of a vertical shelter tunnel like that?

somber fox
#

i think theyre too heavy

#

so uhhh

manic siren
#

k then

somber fox
#

yknow, rip that shelter in your playthrough i guess monksilly

manic siren
#

it's still possible to sleep there and crawl out

#

just takes more time

#

WOAH

#

this small patch of grass just ate a whole big centipede

#

the apex predator i swear

#

wonder if animals disappear between cycles if they die from each other

manic siren
#

i won't be able to look at normal lizards the same way after this game

#

what the hell are you, mister

#

i don't know if it's the same blind lizard as the ones i saw in the filtration system

#

it's completely black here

#

aand we're in a different part of the filtration system

#

this is the first time i died apparently from fall damage

somber fox
#

oh right surpriissee it was there all along also

manic siren
#

yeah i don't have a picture of how damage works in this game yet

#

lizard bites sometimes kill me for good

#

it's kinda weird how often the blue bugs respawn in this room

#

it allows for endless karma regeneration so far

#

maybe the respawn time is different for every type of food

#

looks like subsubterranean

#

veeeery creepy moving light

#

what a menacing and intriguing area

#

the screen is very heaty

#

deity moment

#

wanna try and play with torches but afraid to lose progress

#

gotta find shelter

#

even though this place doesn't really look fit for a shelter

#

huh what is happening to the rain counter

#

maybe this place is too hot for water

#

as a slug, i protest

#

i am so scared to lose progress

#

oh no she's not friendly

#

this awful feeling when you're meeting a new threat and have no idea how to act

#

her design is awesome

#

i'm still sitting down here and thinking what to do

#

i hate this so much

#

she obviously doesn't like me sitting under her feet

#

but doesn't do anything except widening the symbol circle

#

no idea what she will do if i come out

#

okay she has gravity powers

#

i'm still alive and hiding but idk how to counter it

#

i got airbent

#

oookay lady

#

i'm going to spend the next 5 hours trying to solve you

#

huh... what if this crossed circle symbol is a karma level i don't have yet

#

and she will let me through if i reach it

#

i'm 76% sure this is how it works

#

but i gotta try and brute force it a couple of times

#

so far:

  • she can pull me to the right, not killing (i can resist somewhat)
  • she can slam me up and down, killing me (i can't resist)
#

wonder if it depends on how pissed she is, or it's basically random

jagged pawn
manic siren
#

no idea what you wrote but i don't wanna risk reading it at such thrilling moment

#

it's cool that this area doesn't have a time limit

#

but it would be cooler if i could find a shelter in it

#

there were one or two branches

#

gotta check em out

jagged pawn
manic siren
#

the subterranean region is very ominous now

#

an unknown high-level gate and deep hot area with gravity benders

jagged pawn
manic siren
#

new stuff keeps happening in this game

#

even such an annoyance as a dead and heavy lizard in a very small shelter adds to the experience

#

maybe i'm very wrong about predators respawning at all, and i can actually kill everyone at some point

#

leaving the region empty of predators

#

on the other hand, how would it be explained that things below me in the food chain respawn, but things above don't

#

bats have homes, and they respawn near them

#

centipedes have nests like lizards do

#

so everyone has homes

#

my brain's not braining :(

#

but okay

#

we'll see

somber fox
#

it’s braining ok

#

are you still in the scary underground or did you leave btb

somber fox
#

so i got confused why suddenly you were outside again

manic siren
#

i just had a blackout where i am, and i'm so glad it didn't happen mid-run, because my pc would just terminate everything with no questions

#

new fear unlocked

#

also i caught a glimpse of a thread where someone's save got corrupted, hope it's not a common occurence too :D

somber fox
#

i dunno exactly why saves would corrupt

#

RW does have an automated backup system on PC but i dont know the details

manic siren
#

that's refreshing

somber fox
#

but i’d assume that a chunk of the save corruption was due to all the post-watcher1.5 updates

#

it was pretty tumultuous and the game was in a kinda unstable rut

#

(or maybe its the process of going from v1.10 to v1.11 or something like that)

#

((or mods)) monksilly

manic siren
#

this game seems very unusual in a lot of aspects, so i can imagine it might not have been easy making it stable :p

somber fox
#

also its switched like primary dev hands and idk how that goes

manic siren
#

plus it came out in 2017, right?

somber fox
#

yea

manic siren
#

really fascinated at how they managed to make such an unusual gameplay

#

including animals' ai and physics

#

i don't know a thing about game developing and all that stuff, and about games in general

#

so maybe it's not that unusual

#

i like how it has a new slug almost every time you launch

#

one time it was something like a very chunky survivor

#

btw by the silhouette of Saint in the menu where you choose slugs, i imagined him looking completely differently :D

#

with white, brown and black colors, and with a scarf

#

turns out the scarf is a tongue

#

somber fox
#

i wouldnt be surprised if they had a greninja tongue scarf phase though

manic siren
#

wish i could understand that reference

#

i'm either too young to understand a lot about pokemon stuff, or i'm just weird and it missed me completely

manic siren
#

this is a frogcat at this point :p

#

oof i'm seeing something very familiar behind him

#

but ofc i won't overthink it now

#

too far

#

...right, the studio apartment experience

#

forgot about this guy

#

interestingly, this gate is also leading to the left, just like that room with the lady

#

there's gotta be something extremely special about whatever is to the left from subterranean

#

i'm really curious, do people commonly find grass very annoying or is it just me?

somber fox
#

its very hated yea

#

i do think the hate is overblown kinda

manic siren
#

for the blue bugs hanging above it

#

back here!

#

okay, time to be really slow and patient

#

the area seems uninhabited

#

i think gravity here is generally a little different

#

i shouldn't be able to jump from the right to the left thingy in normal conditions

#

at least i think so

#

really want to experiment with torches, maybe i can light up my spear, but kinda scary

#

the statue is very human- or at least humanoid-looking

#

the calfs and everything

#

this area does have spears and rocks for some reason

#

so maybe i can fight the gravity bender somehow

#

i do think a few of her legs were partially in the tunnel where i hid