Survivor first playthrough and I'm stuck on the way back from [spoilers]

[nocturne crystal]

Reposted starting message

I've been playing for the first time, I've gone through the shaded citadel to reach looks to the moon and now I have no idea what to do, the yellow guy doesn't really help and I couldn't see any guides on youtube

[vivid saffron]

Survivor first playthrough and I'm stuck on the way back from [spoilers]

Explore See what you can find

[coral shadow]

I would stay away from guides and researching online, the game is best experienced blindly
Just take your time

[tulip belfry]

this does not help, I really want to finish this game as soon as possible so I can enjoy other gamemodes

[coral shadow]

Why the rush?

If you don’t learn how to play survivor you will struggle immensely in other campaigns

[tulip belfry]

survivor is the worst experiance I had of rainworld, I just get eaten by things and cannot get any progress done

[vivid saffron]

That experience will not change if you rush to another campaign

Itll jsut be more of the same, unless you properly learn how to avoid it by yourself
Other campaigns will not do that work for you

[tulip belfry]

aren't other campaings suppose to have other characters that are easier to control?

[coral shadow]

No

[tulip belfry]

huh?

[vivid saffron]

No

[coral shadow]

Other campaigns are arguably harder

There is a reason you start on surv

[vivid saffron]

The other campaigns have different experiences that vary in difficulty form player to player
But in general, all the campaigns are harder than the base ones you start with

[tulip belfry]

If I'm struggling with survivor should I play monk instead?

[coral shadow]

Just take your time and learn how to overcome challenges

You can keep playing surv if you’re already doing it

[vivid saffron]

Survivor and Monk arent too different
Monk is slightly more relaxed but still has its difficulties

[tulip belfry]

like what?

[coral shadow]

It’s best for you to figure them out

Personally I would stick with surv tho

[tulip belfry]

I bought this game thinking it was metroidvania

[vivid saffron]

Its very, VERY loosely one
The only thing you gain is knowledge which helps immensely if you know where to apply it

[coral shadow]

I would says it’s an open world survival platformer

[tulip belfry]

yeah I learned that the hard way

I thought "Let me play more, the upgrades will surely come." and the upgrades were nonexistent

anyway

I'll probably play more tommorow and try to get progress done

[coral shadow]

Your “upgrades” are learning how to counter things as igna said

[tulip belfry]

okay, I think I solved it?

the yellow thing was pointing back to the robot at looks to the moon so I went back there and picked up some flying things above the robot's head and dropped them back, it then triggered the cutseen I needed to get so the yellow guy is actually helping me now

[wraith night]

the yellow thing isnt something you should rely on solely, its very sporadic in its "advice" regardless on what it thinks of you or not. rainworld is very non-linear and the lack of advice given ingame is on purpose. exploring and going into new things and dying over znd over is apart of the game. you arent losing or gaining progress in wherever you go
just have fun. if youarent having fun, then go somewhere else and return later

[tulip belfry]

nah I think I made progress this time because when I went from looks to the moon without triggering anything, it kept pointing back to looks to the moon

now it no longer points to the robot and instead urges me back out to the shaded citadel?

[wraith night]

following it is an option you can do, but it isnt required. it will still lead you regardless of where you are
im basically just encouraging you to do whatever you want. that is my goal.

[tulip belfry]

If I decided to do whatever I want, I wouldn't really get progress because I'm lazy, I'd either start going around circles in the same region without actually getting progress done

but thanks for the advice anyway

I really hope I'll enjoy the rest of the game because it hasn't been really fun

[wraith night]

rainworld can be really frustrating sometimes. i didnt even get what i was supposed to do at first really

main thing id reccomend is to do whatever will make it fun for you. in the end its all your choice

[tulip belfry]

me neither, some ofmy progress is solely on guides I found on youtube

since I couldn't find my way back from looks to the moon or find my way to the ending on guides I came here for help

[wraith night]

id reccomend to stray from the guides and more towards the wikis maps if you seriously prefer a more linear/controlled experience. you know where your going but dont know what to expect on the way.

[unreal lantern]

i don't recommend either personally

rain world is best experienced blind

[wraith night]

i used the maps and still had alot of fun. experiencing it blind made me not want to plsy it personally. the way it should be played is just. however youd like too imo

[unreal lantern]

and interactive maps do spoil a lot of content because of the labels and such you can find on the wiki pages

[tulip belfry]

I don't like blind playthroughs when I'm doing the playthrough

[unreal lantern]

i know, but i wouldn't recommend them

first playthough guides are here to help more with the guiding aspect if you need it and feel stuck

[tulip belfry]

Jimmy tough knuckles over here

[unreal lantern]

you can do whatever you want personally i'm just saying it's not recommended

[tulip belfry]

I'm only joking

I'll try to find my way around

[unreal lantern]

and tbh guides are a better option over an interactive map at least in my opinion for minimal spoilers

depending on what the guide is that is

[wraith night]

id reccomend to only use the maps from the wiki though. straying to far from those can give unwanted spoilers that genuinely can ruin the magic of the game

[unreal lantern]

the wiki maps do give unwarranted spoilers, unfortunately

[wraith night]

ive never used video guides for anything so i wpuldnt know what theyd be like

[tulip belfry]

can you guys give me maps that won't ruin my experiance?

[unreal lantern]

the ingame one

seriously though no online map is going to be completely spoiler free or save you from a "ruined" experience

and don't make jokes like that please

[wraith night]

:

[tulip belfry]

I cannot play this god damned game without anyone screaming "EXPLORE" into my face and calling me unskilled

[wraith night]

odd and strange. ruined?

[unreal lantern]

all in all it's your decision on what you choose i just don't recommend maps as someone who did use them

[wraith night]

me personally its fine cause i have amnesia/sillying.

[unreal lantern]

that's the words op used

[tulip belfry]

any tips other than "explore" and "do what makes the game fun"? like actual tips on how to beat the game?

[wraith night]

exploring is how you get more skilled at the game, getting skilled at the game makes you beat it, and if you arent having fun whilst exploring then what is the point of playing at all?
the entire game is about experience. its non linear in its base self. you can literslly ignore all of your objectives and run off into whatever region never to be seen again. experience requires exploring.

[unreal lantern]

the thing about rain world is that it's nonlinear and if you plan to play any of the other slugcats or campaigns, rushing towards the end could make things much harder for you

[wraith night]

the furhter you go into the game its going to get harder.

[unreal lantern]

the other campaigns rely upon you being familiar with the map and gameplay already

[wraith night]

[tulip belfry]

I've been exploring from the start of the game which is around 24 hours... only skill I learned is how to backflip, how to slide, how to roll and how to escape predetors better

[wraith night]

we know thats not what you want to hear but thats.. the whole game. your tryjng to make the game what its not

[wraith night]

and thats good!!!!

you know more than i do haha

[tulip belfry]

these are the basic traversal skills, this is like the most basic thing any rainworld player would know in the span of 12 or less hours

[wraith night]

i dont know how to roll :

i know how to slide, but dont implement it much

[tulip belfry]

why can't I play as the fat slugcat from the start of the game and crush things to death?

[lapis knot]

Because you should first learn the basics.

[tulip belfry]

WORD?!

[wise crest]

.. he is not calling you unskilled. gourmand is harder

the reason why the characters are locked in that order is so that players will learn the game by beating survivor first

[wraith night]

you could also try monk and see if its more enjoyable for you : )

[tulip belfry]

I think I'm getting better

[wise crest]

nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tulip belfry]

killed my first lizard

[wise crest]

roasted them lizor

[molten grotto]

Rainworld is like a sort of metroidvania where instead of the slugcat getting stronger, the player gets smarter. You have everything you need to beat the game in just your little gooey slugcat body. In due time you could be blasting through the game very skillfully thanks to nothing other than your mind, and knowing how to apply to scenarios, using the dozens of tools around you, and countering techniques for specific enemies

So, getting through it really is just about exploring and problemsolving. Experience and understanding will come naturally just by moving forwards.

Regarding the map situation you don't really need one for the reason that the game's nonlinear. There are multiple gate connections in each region. If you looked at the world map it's like a spiderweb. What does this mean? It means that all roads lead to Rome ... eventually. Just stick to a route that works with you and eventually by pure accident you'll wander into the story-progression milestone places.

[tulip belfry]

this somehow makes sense and doesn't at the same time?

[molten grotto]

Basically there's no right and wrong directions

There's right direction and there's right direction but it takes longer

It all gets there one way or another

Like a loop

[tulip belfry]

hollow knight is easier than comprehending this

[molten grotto]

A good mindset to suggest is going by process of elimination

[tulip belfry]

I'd beat pantheon 5 easier than beating rainworld

[molten grotto]

You have an ingame minimap, showing you which rooms you've seen, and it shows you all pipe endings that you haven't entered yet

[tulip belfry]

I've been to looks to the moon and back, I know this

[molten grotto]

If you reach a bad spot or something that feels like a deadend (there's almost no natural deadends in the game but ehh) just double back and look at the next one

Then you have the arsenal you need to make it through

[tulip belfry]

quick question

how do I get rid of the giant vine monsters at the bottom of shaded citadel

[molten grotto]

Well; what do you know so far about how they work?

[tulip belfry]

they reach out for me and they're intimidating, I can get past the ones far enough to dodge but some are directly on the path and won't let me cross

[molten grotto]

Now, do you think a vine would have eyes?

[wise crest]

ofc (for legal reasons this is a joke)

[molten grotto]

[tulip belfry]

no but I'm sure it sees me because it directly reaches out to my exact coordinates

[molten grotto]

How is a plant monster attracted to you if, as a plant, it can't see you?

[tulip belfry]

it's shaded citadel, everyone and everything here knows my exact coordinates without having eyes

[molten grotto]

Nothing in rainworld just does things like that for the kicks, there's elaboration for everything

[tulip belfry]

THEN ELABORATE

[molten grotto]

Every animal is a little level puzzle in itself

|| The five senses you make a lot of noise running or splashing. ||

[molten grotto]

If anything else fails in a given situation, you can always try and fall back on ol reliable. Amything can be injured. and you know how to injure things. It doesn't take a puzzle to crack that

[tulip belfry]

how does a plant hear me

[wise crest]

yes

[tulip belfry]

I threw 5 spears at the fucker, I did nothing, it staggers and wilts but gets back up before I can pass through

[molten grotto]

We'll chalk it up to vibrations

Sounds like a timing exercise

[wise crest]

tbh id believe it if someone told me there was a plant irl that could hear, life can do a lot of wierd things

[tulip belfry]

IT GETS UP BEFORE I EVEN ENTER THE WATER

[molten grotto]

You could always get in the water first

Nice and close, and shank it at the last second

[tulip belfry]

on my way back to the hibernation chamber, two lizard just dropped down from the pipe above and they're blocking the path 😭

I fucking hate this game

[molten grotto]

[wise crest]

... ima be honest with you here thatll be happening a lot with this game

it happened to me today, a few times actually

[tulip belfry]

they aren't even purple ones either, theyre the transparent ones with glowing heads

I think I'm stuck here

[wise crest]

where are u

can u take screenshot

[tulip belfry]

I'm now in industrial complex, there are two vultures and a green lizard harassing me

I'm stuck in a pipe

[wise crest]

and u cant get out?

[tulip belfry]

nah I just got out, the vultures tried eating eachother and the green lizard was distracted so I sneaked out

[wise crest]

ooo epic

[tulip belfry]

nevermind

the grren vulture from before ate me

can I ask why does my yellow guy sometimes turn blue? or a blue one appear at the same time?

[graceful wren]

oh i missed this thread

i see good progress there

one day you will know how to survive in this concrete jungle with ease

[wise crest]

Of foirse

Course

[graceful wren]

foirse

[wise crest]

Sometimes typos are too impressive to fix

[wraith night]

dude those fucking suckk. i swear to god i see them everywhere. they are easy to deal with but their abundance is genuinely laughable cause of how annoying it is

[tulip belfry]

so I've been exploring like you guys told me and I came into a place clled pipeyards?

[coral shadow]

Very interesting!

[wise crest]

He found yipepard guys

[wraith night]

LETS FUCKING GO dont lose any of your loved ones in there to their crippling gluttony

[tulip belfry]

what is this? why is this? how is this?

[terse pendant]

who is this? where is this? when is this?

[tulip belfry]

I'm genuenly confused how do I get the minus karma?

[unreal lantern]

you can always just keep it in mind and come back to it later

[tulip belfry]

how about actually helping someone out instead of saying "JusT ExPlOrE!"?

[terse pendant]

felpers respond the way that they do because this games spirit is that you are helpless and confused in an unfamiliar environment. this game may seem frustrating at times but please do not get hostile at people trying to point you in the right direction

[tulip belfry]

point me where?

they told me to just explore like that'll change anything?

news flash, I've been exploring for like 3 days with no help

nothing

[unreal lantern]

that genuinely is the best answer for this specific spot though

there's no need to be rude about it

[vivid saffron]

Not everything has something you can do right in that moment.
This game is primarily an environment simulator. Exploring is a key aspect of the game. You find things and come back later with new knowledge.
That's how the game works and that's how we help.

[tulip belfry]

sorry if I sounded rude, I was just annoyed at that moment. Sorry for my outburst

[terse pendant]

it's all okay this game can be frustrating at some times