#Watcher 1.5 Spoiler Thread
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i found all the void spawn and am pressing the correct button combo, why can't i manually portal again?
head back to the dial and go 1 room right, you have 1 last step
Genuine question, why do some ||void sea ending|| result screens show the watcher dead while others show the scug sleeping?
For example, Daszombes got this ending but his result screen had the watcher sleeping art
if downpour is disabled the only campaign that is able to have a unique end screen is hunter, so it defaults to your hunter one
the painting or the fan?
fan
well, that's your final destination anyway
or am I misunderstanding what yuo are struggling with, have you got the cutscene thing yet
||the large void worm swirling around you||
ok I see what you mean now
your sleep screen shows your current charge
you have to fill that to use it again
oh lol k
@formal patio WHERE ARE MY WATCHER TILES 😢 PLEASE GIVE THEM TO US SOON. its all YOUR fault
cries
Do you need to have unlocked ripple 9 for the weaver to show up?
Or can you just see the gold crack thing and go to the right room without following the threads?
you can find them without it, just have to know the roomd
good to know
(or be me and check every large importantish room in the region) 
I didn't figure it out until way after I had ripple 10 anyway lmao
thanks wrayk i could always count on you ✨
why not? now it’s canon :3
watcher devs thank you for canonising my mod 🥹
missing the Roblox Man Face
a vital part of looker.png
try opening it in notepad and scrolling a bit down, around line 151
i am never adding that 
wait what does it say i can’t check right now 👀
oh alright
Okay Inv
Inv = Nightcat allegations are getting worse...
It means that even though you can flip them with a rock, they will flip back over nearly instantly due to not being stun
hey...
||can someone give me a hint where i should use pearls??||
How cryptic?
a little bit, i might not get it
It is located somewhere in the final point of the child's journey
oh
can i go back to the ancient urban when i already was there??
Yeah
question about 1.5 ||is there some sort of hidden criteria for weaver to spawn? ive been wandering around and occasionally rotting regions for a while now, and weaver still hasnt shown up. according to the wiki, and the few screenshots ive seen here, i should be seeing the golden feathers on regions by now, since ive completed spinning tops questline, and am locked at max ripple. but no matter what i do im not seeing any golden feathers anywhere? am i experiencing a bug or am i doing it wrong :( please help.||
a hint to get you started: ||it is related to the portals you create||
||if you are like me and didn't make any portals for your first 10 hours of replaying the dlc you probably didn't see many signs of them
||
||well ive gone around portalling as much as i could but i still dont see anything weird :(((||
||it takes a bit of time, just pass a few cycles||
it worked!! 
Is there any new Prince dialogue in 1.5?
I’m wondering if I should make my life difficult by waking him up or ignore him entirely
Funnily enough, he has new dialogue but only if you lock yourself out of his ending (he also has one other misc dialogue)
You can lock yourself out now?
Oh yikes lol
Does going down any path lock other new endings?
Waking Prince up is mandatory to finish the game, but if you start one of the new ending quest lines, Prince's actual ending becomes incompletable
I assume it also goes the other way around?
Nope
Like if I get prince ending I can’t get the new ones?
Oh
Maybe I should mess with him first then
Prince is the only ending thats optional
But he won’t give me the dialogue if I lock it after getting it obv
Interesting…a dilemma
(Honestly, Prince being a optional side quest makes a lot of sense considering how tedious it is to spread the rot)
New dialogue or completionism…
So yeah, I advise just not doing Prince's ending
It's not worth going through the rotting every region nightmare again
I still find the fact doing Prince's ending means objectively less Prince content really funny
Like its not by much, but still
||weaver|| youtooz when?
Right here
Neat!
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on the way to third echo region (farm arrays), guy stopped and say "its all the regions we know but blocked by rot... i bet we are getting a power to eradicate the rots" (as a 3rd/4th ability from echo) 😭
very close!
"power that burn away the rot, no spoilers tho!"
rather interesting the cycle before and after hibernation
Guys okky don't know anything about new content in 1.5 but can someone give me vague hints about how to get the new endings??? (Also how many new endings are there?)
||pay attention to the portals you create||
Anything more? 😭🥺
Like
Okk, ||pay attention to the portals, there is something specific I need to not do? Like, if I did Prince's ending or infected like 3 areas I'm blocked out of the new endings??||
you can't get locked out of any of the new endings
OKK PERFECT SO I CAN DO LIKE, ||Spinning Top Ending, Prince Ending and then the others?||
Like, in the same run without reseting?
OKKY THANKS omg idk what to do 😭
Gonna play a new run soon then cros!
i have a watcher 1.5 windchime question
i have ||assumably closed all the rifts,|| all ||the rifts that i can go through normally now have yellow dotted lines instead ||of|| purplish ones in the region map menu||
what ||should i do now||
||make a warp||
||a manual warp will always send you somewhere you can make progress||
that is a Great Info actually
thank you car
i accidentally forwarded it here
I don't know where to put this, I tried to make a custom mix of the sunbaked alley threat :P
Are you actually kidding me
This guy’s stuck and won’t budge, I can’t go any further
I made it this far and now what…
I can’t be mad though.
go back to the previous room and return here a few times, it might wiggle them out of this
Can abstracted creatures go through walls or something
leaving and reentering rooms sometimes lightly nudges body chunks a bit, but you might have to fully abstract them here. It would let them escape
Abstracting worked, thanks for your advice!
I also saw a ||Titan Whale|| on my adventures!
Dude. The only way (seemingly) to ||fully cleanse the rot in a rotted region requires killing every Lizard Long Legs.|| 
(That or ||cleansing every room doesn't unmark the region as rotted.||)
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500 batflies
Maybe I shouldn't have verify game files after fixing the nonespawn issue 
Now I gotta remember them all again
Idk if I should mind too much because I am trying to infect all the regions so

When is the soundtrack released for the update
guys is possible to clean 100% a rotted region with weaver powers?
no
yes, though you can't remove the rotted region marker on the map
oh?
does it stop ticking up once it hits 0
I thought the sentientRot effect always ticked up slowly
I don't think it ever goes away, even if lowered to 0 by weaver
do you have devtools enabled?
go to a region you've cleared
open devtools
hit H
and screenshot the entire screen
send here
ping me when you do pls
already did
roy gonna get mad at me I guess
makes sense actually
I didn't reset the cycle when I was testing
you usually have to to lock in room effect changes
I will try now to get that thing on outer rim that gives skills to choose where to warp
just to see if I got all the unlockables
Do we have to spoiler tag in here or no
uhhhh
maybe I should but is allowed spoilers here
|| does the spider like thing that appear on outer rim to get this new skill spawn randomly on the region? ||
Oh no that’s not directed it’s a genuine question for myself
Are they still in #watcher-spoilers ?
theyre really only mandatory in spoilers, but it's good courtesy to spoiler in lore too
Okay thank you!
spoiler channel has a lot of players askkinng about the game for the first time
so for a few weeks it's good to treat it as such
Trying to avoid stuff and keep myself spoiler free so I’m just figuring out what channels are safe
lore is less important as it's the lore channel, it's risky
people talk about endings freely because it's lore discussion, expected
weird the warp isnt working on daemon even on ripple space
spoiler channel is the only truly safe one atm, ironically
interesting ending-related note:
||I believe originally it was intended for the ascension ending to require the sentient rot ending also, based solely off Watcher::WatcherRoomSpecificScript.WRSA_J01.PrinceEndingReached being named that way; though in the semi-private 1.11.0 beta it already had the current state of only requiring the first Prince convo||
I think that makes the most sense
the throne has the ending adjacent appearance
flowered
||now imagine speedrunning that ending if Sentient Rot ending was required||
cool
Has anyone experienced an issue where (||rot|| ending spoilers) ||you literally rot every region and the rot ending is not triggered??||
actually, about the thread
Windchime beta is long over
So
Watcher 1.5 Spoiler Thread
Like I really do not know what to do at this point with this dhkjdhkjadha
better communicates that the thread is for unmarked 1.5 spoilers
Appear that the new ability to hold down and c isnt working for me
is press down and C right?
It is, but you need to ||collect more of the ripplespawn eggs again to refill the meter||
ah
it locked me on the air had to devtool out
found a warp and it teleported me here what is this thing
I LOST THE ABILITY TO GET INVISIBLE AND GO TO RIPPLE SPACE AAA
even the sleep screen changed
oh nonespawn fix does put ur explored region to "???" since its treating as if you have never been there but why is ALL of urs being "???" tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrGjj3lV-4g this person started watcher campaign really late and this is the first ep since the update and they have forgotten everything 😭
I get very confused in this.
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For whatever reason because I just did
oh dang
All the regions are normal though it didn’t reset or anything as far from what I’ve seen just all ??? Now
can someone give a idea here
i got my 100% back :D
loved the ending
i wonder what will they theorize about all those things
specifically that one cinematic, not the final one where the credits roll in, but that other one in the final ending...
just learned that lizards learned to do camping between warps
I guess I know what to do with this new thing
appear that I have to collect the void ripple worms on the maps
the change on the sleep screen sugest that
THE SPIDER REAPERED
it stopped moving
it has reached its destination
it have random destinations?
I died and next time it moved further
also should I keep collectiong those ripple worms?
heat ducts got full of those purple worms moving around I guess I collected them all
I followed another other that appeared and when it stopped I tried to create a portal, it appeared but I cannot interact with it
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walk through the entrance to the void bath
thank you!
Wait, can the weaver move?
I swear I've seen it hang out in a level, only to disappear now
they only appear on the cycle you see the golden rift. Sleeping makes the gold rift go away
If you sleep in the one region with him, he will seal portal and move on or dissapear
😭
No wonder I've had such a hard time finding it
It's frustrating trying to find a way to locate the region
And then having to track it down
Especially when it ends up in Aether Ridge
And it always seems to hang out in Aether Ridge
||you have full control over when and where they appear...||
Just explain
I don't have the patience to experiment for hours and hours trying to figure out what it does
Or where it spawns
it's related to the portals you create
when one of your portals expire, they are replaced with a gold rift
Yes, I never figured what that is all about
I assumed that's just a potential spawn spot
find the golden rift, then follow the strings in ripplespace
Found rift, no strings
check the rooms adjacent. they can be hard to see in large rooms, make sure you fully explore every room adjacent to the gold rift
and if you slept after seeing one, sometimes it doesn't disappear properly and leaves behind a dysfunctional one, you have to find another if that happens
so just make a gold rift, head to the room, and follow the strings
So basically:
- Make a portal
- After getting transported to the new level, come back to the level I came from.
- Sleep
- Weaver spawns
?
- make a portal
- pass 5 cycles (can use this time to make more portals for later)
- return to the region you made the portal in
- enter the room with the portal with a good amount of cycle left
- follow the strings
Good, I can farm it then? 🙂
(if you find one weaver spot in a region you can literally just place portals in that room and you won't even have to search for them)
A lot more tolerable
ive found rusted wrecks to be best for this strategy since theres a shelter right next to a weaver room and a lot of food nearby for cycling
are the watcher pearls not on the wiki yet or are they under a seperate page that im not seeing?
not on the wiki yet

you can find them all here #1419863420286664744 message
nice!
discord notif in warg_w05 lol
was moon ever stated to be the first iterator? or just an earlier model?
earlier model than pebbles, didn't get much else
theres a pearl in ancient that sort of confirms shes not the first
moon could still be pretty new, pebbles might be very old, we don't know for sure
||theres one that shows her under construction, and another thats a conversation between another iterator and an ancient||
that's not moon, that's Bell of Gesture
all the lore from the new pearls is huge
is it?
i thought it looked a lot like moon
very heavily implied it's BoG
interesting
i was under the impression that bell was already constructed somewhere else and moon was under construction over ancient urban
this update has so much lore to go through lol
Is it possible to get the prince ending after meeting the weaver 4 times?
no
How do I remove rot? Watcher got the halo, but the rot is not moving
stay in the room for a bit
It doesn't really
Aside from the superficial stuff like being blue
i love this arena
its amazing
incredible vibes
the rain, the neon signs, the darkness, everything fits incredibly nice
i need to learn how to tile if i want to make a good custom region 
i like the purple stuff
may or may not have warped a king vulture into outer rim in my first playthrough 6 months ago
stink
I love neon signs
How do I heal a region from rot?
I've been going room to room, eliminating rot, but do I have to visit every room or sth?
Awww, I'll give up then 😁
I managed to remove all rot from desolate tract, but the symbol of rot still will appear when you sleep
after getting the skill of pressing down and c those appear on every region
🥹
its weaving time
so ture
|| I have filled that thing up and it made a portal that lead me to the same area where a giant ripple worm appeared and gave me a new skill but nothing else happens, should I do smth more on this? ||
What do you mean nothing else happens
I arrived at the top on where I meet the giant ripple worm appeared and gave me the new ability but nothing happened there, either on the other rooms
I returned to the same room of the print and the portal still theres, leading to the same place
deer cant go through portals??? dogshit dlc im refunding and filing a lawsuit against videocult /j
as of today, a solution has been found
swallowed froglinks
once we figure everything out, bring a loach to X region will probably be a rwsc
probably toy room I assume
probably
Ok cool
Sometimes when I touch ripple spawn egg they don’t break free
Other times they don’t appear at all
I’ve come to understand that something cool happens if I touch a lot of them, and I don’t want this to be a setback…
to see them you need fortified karma, or to be holding a karma flower
unsure
Are you saying it’s a bug?
possibly
Aw man
I’m about halfway through my playthrough and I’ve only managed to free about 10 of them
How many do I need for something cool to happen?
you are on the right track but you are missing a piece of the puzzle
do you want a clarifying hint
everything related to what you heard of is fully contained within 1 region
Oh neat
aw I was expecting more
apparently the ending is not triggered by number of regions rotten, but some evil arbitrary thing 😭
idk what it is cause bro didn’t say what it was
literally what 
hadkjdhaskja I can't tell if my game is bugged or not I literally ||rotted every region||
maybe wait a few cycles for the rot to spread?
ill tryyyy
im 11h in and it's pain, i avoided doing this on my primary file for a reason
I wasn't talking about the ending, just meeting prince
I have no idea what this symbol means
(midgame content spoilers, hibernation map web spoilers)
im like 99% sure this is a bug but I have no idea what is causing this
texture issue, usually caused by a memory leak. Playing for longer sessions and with larger mods enabled causes memory leaks to build up which can lead to instability and crashes. Close the game occasionally if you have it open for 2+ hours
every weaver spot with a portal 1 room away...
...and the 3 weaver spots with a portal in the same room 
you didn't need the rot ending to make this glow ???
||you only have to wake him up lmao||
I'd already gotten ST ending and woken him up before seeing that thing so I never got the hints 🥹
you only have to wake him for that specific thing, though be warned that choosing not to actually get his ending before doing the other parts of it will lock you out of the rot ending for that save slot
also, i managed to finally get all of the endings in my one save slot for watcher a few days ago, boys
it's so... freeing, and yet i'm so listless now
so much time committed to watcher, and now... there's nothing left, i've done it all
i have all the achievements for watcher...
and the world is empty and orderly
Come do rwsc 
rwsc?
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@ember onyx
Great for if you wanna play more rainworld AND have a pretty colored name like me 
Everybody should 
besides I not grabbing or hurting any moth baby, the moths on shrouded stacks hates me
I love watcher, every region absolutely is peak
no (gameplay focused) watcher region is below C tier
they forgot to remove this lmao
what is subterranean doing there
also, while going in ancient urban, i found out that they made cups representing the 5 natural urges
awesome detail
piggyback ride
I still believe that fractured gateways happens around the time of rivulet
And badlands is somewhat close to it
That also would mean that pre badlands brought water to verdant waterways
Because badlands has numerous pipes and watertowers
i might check the WarpPoint params. it usually has the "timeline" param set to a specific scug timeline
said scug timeline hints at which part of the timeline
Gotta love piggy back rides on beings beyond a slugcats comprehension.
I really do love Rain World.
noope, just see prince hatch
getting rot and weaver ending is quite tedious stil
Perchance what would happen if the gold portal tried to spawn on top of a already existing portal? the answer is they cancel each other out apparently! 😠
it seems like i have closed every portal on the map but i havent win game yet... am i stupid
if you do a manual warp, you will always be sent somewhere you can make progress
Did the pink lizards get buffed?
no, they are just rarer in vanilla so you don't get much practice against them
it's very easy to underestimate them
they are very dangerous to just jump over, and due to not being a wall climber are usually in harder spots to get around ironically
and unlike moles and yellows, they have decent reaction times and can catch you out of the air
I've been seeing them instakill me a lot more often than other lizards.
Though that might just be bad rng?
are u able to spread the rot thru chosen manual warps (or whatever we are calling them)
they have an above average bite damage chance for lizards in similar points of progression, at a 1/3 base rate
i just realized that ripple space actually pauses the rain timer
OE doesn't have default spawns other than placed objects so getting there in unintended campaigns means it's barren
watcher actually has za warudo
Watcher update 3 when?
Except for 1 ! Stowaway
and batflies
better than nothing
It'd feature a new npc, named the YeeKing who wants to spread the YeeKind all over the sluggyverse. 
So stowaways made it?
Afaik, elite scavs also made it, with a single one that only appears via lineage 
Theoretically there's more in pipeyard
If only we could get a few extra seconds on the gatewarp
So the only creatures from DP that are absent are:
- Miros vultures
- Yeeks
- Inspectors
- Elites (cameo only)
No chieftain either 
I think mother spiders and jungle leeches are gone too?
Also no jungle leeches or mlls either
Nvm, I think most DP creatures didn't make it 😔
Mother spider I believe is still in gutter in CC
mother spider is in gutter and a lineage in fetid
Are there any aquapedes?
yeah there's a green one in fetid
(no there aren't)
Also firebugs (obvs), Hlls, and slugpups
I was gonna say that they appear in fetid, but I guess it was a centiwing 😭
unless you get that bug that adds slugpups to watcher, night to signal spires, and snow to rusted for some reason
which has apparently happened to like 3 people
I would really appreciate a slugpup in watcher
Night to signal spires feels like sth that would happen tbh
Would actually break open the game for me
along with jolly coop support they also gave pups some minimal support (though they still give zoomies when you portal with a back pup)
Is there any lead on how they got em to show up? 
All of these sound like they should probably happen
please don't be accidental mods
Especially nighttime spires
just making sure but, the weaver randomly spawns inside the region right? cuz i accidently found a (potential) bug between normal portals and its portals and don't wanna be forced to restart
You can farm it
It's not entirely random
they have 1-3 set spawns per region and choose the closest one
Want me to tell you how to farm it?
What's the bug?
Okay @hoary glacier
- Make a manual portal yourself. Preferably somewhere close to shelter.
- Wait for 5 cycles to pass. Once you don't see your portal anymore, you know that the Weaver spawned.
- Try to locate it. Its spawn points are predetermined, but the game will try to spawn it to the closest portal.
- Repeat
As for Weaver spots, it almost always spawns in large open rooms, so if you don't know where to search, those are a safe bet.
if there is a normal portal in the same spot as a golden one they basically cancel each other out and neither can properly work
That should not be possible to regular level portals . However, if it was your own portal, then yes, that's good.
Yeah there's not supposed to be multiple portals in a room
Yellow portal veins = Weaver visited the area and patched your portal up.
So it just doesn't let you cross
fun fact: there are 3 locations where the weaver spawns in a room with a dynamic warp target
if you get sent to any of these you can just accidentally meet them #1419863420286664744 message 
I think you can also just have the Weaver spawn consequitively in a few cycles?
if you set up 4 portals in the same region you can just get it done in 1 cycle 
would be a silly rwsc 
you can probably just use shattered to make it trivial
Poor Weaver hasn't even existed for a month, and we're already bullying it.
it's not bullying I'm just making their job easier by putting all the portals in the same place, very efficient to clean up
the WORA DIAL kinda looks like DreamCast
Watcher in DreamCast confirmed 
Aquapedes
I mentioned that 
what are the purple circles
they get toggled by the Warp Destinations layer on the map 
ah i see
can you uncorrupt a region with the weaver's ability ?
interesting. sentientRotInfectionRate goes down in 0.5 decrements. (excuse the audio. i had to set game speed to 0.1x to get a smooth recording after post-processing it to 10x speed)
check the top left
Hey! I think my game might just be bugging out but I want to ask if there's anything I need to do here 
I've closed every portal, there was one in turbulent pump that was being buggy but it's actually closed now. However, I still can't access the third ending and self-warping still sends me to turbulent pump. If I warp from turbulent pump, it sends me to a random region like usual
Also if it helps, I've gotten the first ending on this save file but not the second one. As far as I know the second ending isn't required for the third one, so I don't think that's the problem. I've also visited migration path, pillar grove and fractured gateways, which I'm pretty sure are the only new regions in 1.5
got a question
in what site is the pearl with the bad copper quality reference?
the ea nasir one
nvm i had it in my shelter all this time lmao
uhhhh, i came back from getting the last pearl in the game, and this happened
it wont close
even if i stay still on it, it doesn't teleport
its a black hole
punched a hole through the space and time continuum, and not even flex tape can fix it
Ladies and gentlemen, I just got the fourth and last ending and I think that means I can go into this thread now without worries about spoilers
you can also converse in lore too without spoilers
Ye I just kept out to be extra safe and only popped into #watcher-spoilers for minor gameplay help
its good to be safe
That said I was actually pretty happy when I saw the prince active, he gave me what I think is the mark of communication
it is!
It would seem I still have 4 achievements left so there's likely more to do
I did hear you can unlock dial warp by freeing ripple spawn
Ye, I found the place where I think the dial is
what ones are they?
There's a spiral
I don't know, they're hidden
yeah the amount of things in the spiral are the amount u need
I feel like I'm playing as a completely different character now.
ah i forgot their hidden
hold on im sure theres an image of the achivements somewhere
found it
reply tagging rq
actually ||blossom|| and ||the prince|| are swapped!
and you don't need to ||read a pearl|| for the ||images and sounds|| achievement you just need to enter ||WAUA_PEARL||
do you? i swear i was forced to put a ||pearl|| in for it to give me the achievement
im honestly not sure
and yeah it doesnt matter! as both work either or lmao!
So based on that list I'm missing the following: ||Bad Warp, Mindless swimmers and floaters, Images and sounds||
Ah right so the last one would be one of the Downpour achievements
||youd have to start a new save to get bad warp as you cant do it with weaver powers||
Anyway it would seem that for one of the missing achievements I'd have to make a new save file because ||I can't bad warp on this save file anymore||
good thing there is multiple save slots!
i love multiple save slots
Hmm wait so I'm wondering about something
The prince is normally paralyzed after their ending and you meet them again when you go to get the last ending, is that the final time you get to interact with them?
yes
Sadge
unless you,, didnt complete the rot ending he talks but in the end he starts barely replying anymore
you arent helping him anymore, so he.. stops really responding
The prince was such a likable character for me so I'm a bit sad
I completed the rot ending long ago so that's definitely not the case
I head somewhere that The Prince give you ||the Mark of Communication||, which let's you ||understand the audio-only pearls||. Is that true?
Do they say anything different?
Or do they just do the standard greeting then not say anything afterwards?
yes during ending four
oh neat!
for me prince just started going ...
you actually get uhm more dialouge from prince if u dont do the rot ending
but he does take note on weaver and the fact you dont support his cause nymore before the ...
I do wonder what they say, whether they feel contempt or anger or perhaps just simple disappointment or understanding the watcher's choice
he still considers you his friend! if you want i can show the dialouges
Given they're highly positive and it seems like them to say "I'm not going to stop you"
Ye I would love that
aight hold on
I knew they would be positive, that's all they evidently know
Which I think makes the prince very sympathetic for me. They're not evil in the slightest
Maybe morally dubious, but certainly not malicious
Oh bmy they actually think highly of you for it
yes! they understand your motives have changed.
that does not mean they hate you, simply it means they understand you are no longer helping him.
yeah, i really like the way they did prince truly.
Same. As soon as I met the Prince I instantly took a liking to them
I was actually very sad when I got the rot ending and they got paralyzed by the flowers so they couldn't interact anymore
They really seemed like a great person, their origin notwithstanding
yeah!! I wish there was more but also, the way they did it feels perfect. Just like everything in the story!
I would want more people like the prince in my life. Positive and stalwart, well-meaning, altruistic
I really love that they did them like that instead of the stereotypical "hurr durr I'm a mindless or evil monster that wants to consume everything"
i really enjoy the way they wrote him i agree
Ye. You can see that the prince genuinely wants what's best and they value friendship, if I could I would go and hug them
they deserve all the hugs! (as per most things in rainworld do like pebs and moon)
I don't have video footage but I got hit on the head by a falling pomegranate and dieded
I didn't even know that could happen...
working on the 3rd ending but, how do u even start the 4th ending (that is a thing right?)
it will reveal itself
My favorite threat theme in the dlc
stormy coast threat is just peak all throughout
message to join thread but also with a flashy entrance as opposed to pressing the join button
"pictures of the past"
The Best written character i fear
Can You do the third ending if You did the Prince ending? Or You have to restart?
you can do all endings onthe same save file
just make sure you finish rot before starting weav
But wouldn't the fourth ending change? Since the prince would be with karma flowers from the second
actually no he just becomes normal again
so you can do all four
he goes normal for like one part of ending four
Niceee

But i dunno if i will do the second ending
It hurts to see My baby unable to do anything
He gained My heart
Just got the weaver ending, I love the title art
Can i see??
Sorry I got the last (I hope) ending and it got replaced
||do the pearls the pearl reader reads stay?||
||if you have key item tracking enabled (its a Remix option), it should be in the same room||
ok good
i actually ||once spawned all of those via devconsole. thinking it would be gone next cycle i checked and theyre at the pipe entrance lol||
yea thats what happened to me now
I think
I'm softlocked
So, I just got the ||Dial Warp thing and used it immediatly to go to Heat Ducts cause people here said that it glitches if u cancel it. So I immediatly died after warping and now I can't start anything anymore, I just spawn dead and lose my karma and can leave the game or respawn (and respawning just kills me again)||
Idk what to do, if I can do something in the game's code to change my position or something like that I would be extremely glad cause I don't want to lose this Watcher save too 
Where's your most recent backup at?
Okk opening the game just a sec
It saves one every 30 minutes or so I think
If you click the top left one (most recent) and press info it'll tell you where all your scugs are at
Find one where you're not in heat ducts, I guess 
Then just click restore, it'll overwrite your current save with that backup
Probably a bit of lost progress but not much compared to resetting completely
Yeah but
Okk I'm back before getting the thing
But
What happens now?
I can't ever get the thing or my game will just blow up?
Or I just
Choose another ||place to go other than Heat Ducts?||
you can try again if you'd like, the whole mechanic is really broken right now tho, it has basically no checks on where it warps you in the given region
it also can't be used to go to ST despite the option being there
Yeah I was like probably inside the void out of bounds or something
probably lol
every time I tried to go to aether ridge it would spawn me inside a box out of the play area lol
if you collect all of the void spawn, you can shelter before going back to the place and create a backup manually, to test it out
Soo, thank you very much, I didn't even know the game had backups and all, u saved me!!
no problem
happy to help, they're very useful 
Yeah the save is like, in the last shelter before the thing room after getting all the ripple spawns
oh nice, that's lucky lol
Yippe! 
Okky, need to remember that for tomorrow
Well, I'm going to sleep rn, gnight kind stranger!!

hmm so I'm curious: has anyone attempted to reach a shelter in industrial or the outskirts and hibernate during the ascension ending? I figure they accounted for that but honestly I would want to properly revisit the vanilla regions as the watcher
I mean I figure this is likely to be the last content update but I would've wanted to see how FP and Moon would react to the watcher
maybe you can use warp or mousedrag to break the sequence but who knows
An idea I had was the possibility of movement tech making it possible; maybe enough time to reach a shelter and hibernate in either Industrial or Outskirts, or perhaps wiggleflight to climb up D07 and get out of the depths unless the pipe is blocked
The depths did spawn spears etc. so perhaps that + special + other potential move techs might be usable to try getting into the vanilla regions
Honestly I would be down to try it, I don't expect anything special or maybe they thought about it and took measures to prevent it but I would very much hope there's a secret to be found
oh yeah I think I could've escaped depths if I wanted
unless the top of the room is sealed off
(which I expect)
this looks so cool 
wait whats happening to me
||they finally added a way to passage, but somewhat better??? 🥹||
subterranean is fully up there
nothing stops you aside from the climb itself
you can meet two sprouts, twelve brackets and crash your game
that's funny lol
honestly they should 100% commit to letting you explore vanilla map if you really want
watcher is Not allowed through gates. like it would be weird if it could go through them
and slugcats are stupid so it can't just walk around a decontamination chamber
I understand that angle but I feel like a different angle wouldn't be inherently Less Good
Does it allow you to hibernate?
You can even gatewarp, if you want
||the weaver boss fight
(it kinda looks like the dream world in HK lol)||
Honestly I think it would be very cool to have a secret for if you somehow manage to break the sequence
OE warp would theoretically allow you to ascend way before you're intended
I also just found that the prince sequence is apparently part of Daemon
You only need to wake him up
So uh I just did something funky - I think the teleportation thing is actually based on the distance you travel from your spawn point rather than time and when I tried normally, I was TPed away right in front of the shelter
Using the console I TPed myself on top of the shelter pipe and it immediately started the warp sequence, it actually created a portal just as the hib sequence finished
The result is: I have woken up as normal, but now there's a portal inside the shelter and HI jumped from "clean" to "dark and purple with rot"
But of course my weaving ability is now cleaning it lol
uhhh can someone tell me how they managed to have two shortcut entrances connect to one????
is it a specific room script or no?
Most likely a matter of mapping both pipes to the same one in the world file
||and as a bonus in the cutscene, weaver's face looks like monomon||
||watcher dlc is the real sequel to hollow knight
||
oh lol you can enter ripple space ||in the void sea||
peak
also ||THEY REALLY WENT ON MAKING A FULL ON EPIC CUSTSCENE BRO THIS IS SO PEAK 🥹 🥹 🥹 ||
||A new star moving menacingly in a dark void||
(ngl the ending arts are phone wallpaper worthy)
So something I'm wondering about... can the sealed rifts be reopened?
I remember reading somewhere that implied they can be reopened later on
damn ||Bell of Gesture|| has no chill lmao
Oh who is ||Bell of Gesture||?
have you beaten the dlc yet?
im assuming you knew about the pearl reader in ancient urban and got the mark?
I heard about the pearl reader but I haven't used or seen it yet
I'm not too interested in getting pearl readings lol
oh. ||its mentioned as a name of an iterator in one of the pearls, specifically the talkshow one. with the mark you can understand their dialogue. girl has no chill||
I wonder if you could theoretically do this with a batspeared creature
Probably not as they'd need to enter the shelter, but would be funny
So I just unlocked dial warp and decided I would go to torrential railways as a test
This happened
And of course the game hangs when I attempt to respawn myself with the console
Yeah the dial warp is mega broken lol
Got a big fat null reference exception
Broken as in glitchy?
Yeah
Because I don't think this is dial warp related, iirc I died like this before
Long before 1.5 even happened
Yeah that happens too
But the dial warp specifically has basically no checks for where it teleports you afaik
I got put in a cage in AR the first time I used it
Something I noticed is that it blocks you from accessing certain regions as well
E.g. it didn't let me warp to AU directly
There was also a ??? region, based on the connection I think that's UE and I would've wanted to revisit it
Yeah a few are blocked off, and ST is supposed to be but teleports you to a random region instead 🔥
Ngl I wish the dial warp function could be used to visit base game regions
You could go to pebs for example and he would notice you are quite unusual
I was really hoping one of the endings would allow access lol
"a portal has opened across the timeline" or smth would go hard
based on the exception trace, it somehow crashed while trying to get the threat pulse. weird
i had msc enabled so this shouldnt be an issue but idk why
but i did die after dial warping too 
somehow fallen into a death pit
How many echoes do you have to find to be perma-max ripple?
i recommend not to perma max to max ripple 9. ripple spacing while trying to ripple float and ending up dropping your stuff sucks
Dont I need max ripple for all the new story stuff though
well i guess.... youd need about... 8 more visits from ripple 9 (the rest can be found in the rotted vanilla regions)
Does the Shattered Terrace echo and the one visit in AU raise your ripple?
I'd say it depends on the case and the person's prefs. E.g. I like being able to get into ripplespace particularly because I can access daemon warps this way and I can bypass things
Honestly I hate ripple space but I want to be able to do all the stuff and a lot of it is time limited (ex, the gold portals)
So 
But of course if you're also e.g. going through salination and trying to bypass anglers (I have yet to meet these ngl), ripplespace will make you drop your bubble weed
So I just realized I won't have to do the outer rim dial warp side quest again because it saved when teleporting me to torrential railways
But that also might mean... am I softlocked without cheats?
Yup. I died as soon as it loaded and the warp didn't even finish loading
Just gonna poke at this again because if that's the case then I think that's all I need
neither of those increase your ripple, no
Sadness...
half that number
ah
Just remembered I never got an answer to this
So this means that I have to go through all the normal echo regions?
awwwww 🙁
i think i heard they said something about it being difficult to code or something
record scratch freeze frame Yep, thats me. Now youre probably wondering how i ended up in this situation
weaver stuff || does going though the ancient urban portal seal it? i assume no...||
only solid line connections
and that one I believe is a 1 way dashed line
Did the ||Dial Warp|| get disabled? I have it and it is ||fully charged but holding down + special does nothing, just makes me start laying down||
double check it is fully charged
It is. I have collected ||many voidspawn even past the sleep screen showing it is full||
then not sure. You are doing it on flat ground and not on a pole correct
yep
I only ever ||used the dial warp once, when it first got unlocked. Tried to use it a bit since then after collecting enough spawn, with or without karma flowers, and nothing||
odd, it's really buggy so you really aren't missing much
sets you to the default location in the room
(which is usually out of bounds and occasionally instant death)
yeah, that was my experience with first using it. Got softlocked, instantly dying without a trace until I rolled out my save.
||Heat Ducts||
||being immune to rot should make this shelter functional smh||
umm does it LOOK like you two were invited
A
mkv doesn't embed, set obs to output files as .mp4
aw man
this is not going very well
[Re-resend]
This air is very solid.
(Spoiler because ||spiky tail||)
finally
So, how does finding the Weaver work specifically? I've gone to their locations, found the blocked portals, went into ripple space and followed some blue thread, but it just keeps leading me to empty rooms. Do I need to physically touch the warp point or something before I start looking?
You are on the right path, just keep exploring. If you enter a room without the clues, return back to the last room that had them and try some other way forwards
Hey there. I've got a question regarding our resident cryptid ||The Weaver.||
Once I've ||visited the lad 4 times and gained the ability to Weave/Rot Immunity||, what exactly do I do next? This has been... a very painful journey, I'll admit. Lots of "what" moments, so I just want to figure out what exactly I need to do next because guessing has made the experience worse 😔
I see signs that maybe my next task ||if I want Ending #3 with the Weaver is to start closing portals? is it as tedious as the rot ending where you have to go to every single region and close portals there? or.. what is it?||
||you're right that you need to close the portals, thankfully its not too tedious as your random warp will guaranteed take you to a region with an open portal, and the threads reveal which direction to go to get to it||
Thank ya. sounds like I know what to do tomorrow, then.
Hello
Is it true you have to ||collect every ripple in OR to unlock manual teleport||
Also how helpful is that to getting the ||pearls||
And is it better to have MSC on for the remember key items for the above option
also can you only bring ||one pearl|| at a time to Ancient Urban because of the ripplespace teleport (unless you make a portal)
Yes
Currently its buggy as hell and stops working once you progress far enough
alright
i'll just skip to getting ||pearls|| lol
Are there any changes to the Watcher or the world post|| 4th ending|| or just the|| mark of communication and pearls?||
Those are all the changes
Is it just me or is the anglers like angling thing looks like one of the unlock stalks?
The angler thing looks mechanical though, right?
yeah, spinning propellors that speed up when chasing something
Favorite creature
@simple wasp so yeah... sound/snd works... also the third parameter at the first line is the duration... in centiseconds 
So me
odd unit choice
these guys when you don't have bubbleweed are pretty annoying though
with invisibility being a thing that's usually fine though
now that you can see underwater in ripplespace
I just love how anglers are just a perfect addition to fetid glen and salination
it would have been cool if similar to other threats you couldn't drown in ripplespace
iirc you are immune to sandstorm, rain, and blizzard
but not flooding
nvm it also works with sndvis 
custom sound pearls yay
Wait, is it a propeller?
Do you have a gif of anglerfish whilst being fast
also nvm im confused on the third param. it somehow acts as how long it takes for the pearl reader to hold before it spits out the pearl?
you mean holdPoint / hold? I cannot find anything named duration in code
also unless it uses some different system, I think it should update 40 times a second, not 100?
it calls base.Update, so it should update in the same way as all visual sprites do
hmm..
does the watcher get warp fatigue immunity when they get all ||weaver encounters||? ive been warping a bunch without breaks and have no warp fatigue
Sometimes when I try to do a ripplespace warp it simply does not open no matter what, I want to go to Shattered Terrace from Daemon, is there a solution to this?
I quit and retried but the portal refuses to budge
Should I just wait to collect pearls till a bug patch?
hmmm maybe
ah well
at least i finished the main campaign story
(new cool WAUA obj) (footage was sped up by 4x bc lag with obs)
tbh why do people keep spoil tagging 1.5 content in a thread that explicitly exists for untagged discussion of 1.5 content 💥
anyway what do you think of BigMothState.babyness as a new Big Moth attribute
how does it work btw, do they have a FriendTracker and how many cycles does it take for them to grow
seven cycles
no friendtracker
||Dial warps|| seem a bit broken right now
Whenever I make one, then try to go back through it in the same cycle (pearl retrieval) I just get this:
they have a lot of bugs with them currently, when you do one you should try to find a shelter immediately after to prevent issues
yeah problem is, ||Weaver|| will immediately close such portals if i hibernate
Then i have to go around collecting ripple spawn for ages to do it again (badlands is a gigantic trek to signal spires)
do items in the room not get pulled with you when you spiral warp?
you wouldn't have to reuse the portal if you could just bring everything through the same one
I cant even go back once
Im trying to get pearls i stored in badlands back to signal spires for easy access to shattered terrace then ancient urban
I am saying you put all the pearls you want to move in a pile then do the dial warp on top of them
(assuming dial warps pull pearls through)
No
I
well i hope
but then i have no idea where it will drop me in signal spires
it could put me somewhere with not much ground beneath and spit half the pearls intro the abyss
that would still be long though since id have to refill the meter when if the dial warp didn't bug i could do it in one "cycle"
was messing around with watcher on monks campaign, and ||I went down into the void sea and it did the fourth ending ending stuff like void worm and all||
fourth ending spoilers
the credits are rolling right now
OK, another update
it put that save on monk in outer expanse and watcher on the fourth ending
this cannot be intentional, but hey, I got an ending easier
i’m playing on console I can’t
I think it’s because the ending is tied to the character and not the campaign
if that makes sense
It really shouldn't be
yea
It wasn't previously, I've done a lot of ending shenanigans with nothing like that
I'll test it out later I think
I assume the ending is checking for player 1 instead of the campaign
I know jetfish speed does that
Interesting
pick up a jetfish as gourmand in spearmaster's campaign and you go at spearmaster speed
also, I’m looking again and it just slapped the ending art on the watcher. The campaign itself isn’t completed. I can continue as normal. It just slapped the ending art on it.
Wouldn't that be campaign checking? 
That was gonna be my next question 
well I mean that type of issue
Yeah makes sense I think
honestly, I’m a little more confused because it put the monk run in outer expanse for some reason??
outer expanse is the "non ascension" ending for monk, so if you trigger an ending that wasn't ascension it assumes you got the OE one
oooh
here's hunter to showcase this effect
OE triggers the non ascension ending of that slugcat, which for hunter is dying of cancer
It just score screens for watcher 
well that would be expected, there's no end cutscene involving images so it doesn't have an ending to play
pretty sure there are
Only the ascension ending doesn't have images
OE ending triggering the ascension ending for watcher and no one else? 
not sure which one it triggers
I think the ascension one might be the only "real" ending?
if there's no alternate ending maybe it just activates a default of cutting to the score screen
Yeah maybe
That's what inv does also
Only one normal ending for them, and there's no dating scene at the end of OE 
It took me so long, but I'm done 🥹
You can still get full warp fatue, if you teleport 9999 times in a row
oh yea im gonna send my score too :3c
pog
imagine a ancient arriving at this store and finding this 😭
is possible to kill a drill crab?
"How will the ripple in space and time effect the building value?"
If it bleeds it can die 
Yes. It takes a while tho
despite the <@&1178062110543057082> I see 0 eel or saladmander crimes! 
drill crabs and tower crabs only have 3.5 hp, just make sure you get body hits since the legs reduce damage by quite a bit
(also bring a spear quiver if you are hunting tower crabs, if you get lucky you might get 1 rarely 2 spears to spawn in the area naturally)
drill crabs have 2.5
Did I accidentally beat some challenge I wasn't aware of?
(no it was a random rwcs reference)
anyway damage to the legs get multiplied, capped at the leg's health, and then halved (for dealing damage to the body)
since each leg has 1 health, this means at most 0.5 of body damage per leg
welp im gonna try to collect all pearls now that the campaign is finished, its gonna take so long
ima have to use the dial ability
might need more tactics
guys how I used the special ability that says is to hold down and special button but when I press nothing happens
the special button is C for me
do you have rebind everything?
no
you are holding down and holding special right
yes down and C
then I'm not sure, usually this is caused by having the rebind everything mod enabled
i am so confused cause im pretty sure i did everything for something in the third ending and nothings happening??
||all of the warps are sealed minus the outer rim ones and ancient urban. but i like literally cant get to those so i assume they arent needed||
have you tried warping?
many many times
where is it taking you?
shrouded stacks, pillar grove, and signal spires but the map says theres no connections in those regions
well clearly your missing something there, as the warps only take you where you need to go during the process for ending 3
anyone here have Prince gif
its hard to find his gif else where and wiki only has one that he's looking at the ground
That's the only one I had 
Why don't you make some of your own? 
i actually dont have gif making appp
so i cant
Greyscreen mod works great for removing all the background stuff, tho it's a bit broken for regular palletes right now
I use screen2gif iirc, works pretty well
ithink with the v1.5 update the room is a little brighter now prince doesnt blend with the background
hey haiii uhm
am i able to get the weaver ending even after i ascend ST?
she's gone now and will that affect me getting the weaver ending?
You can get that one
only ending that gets blocked off ever is the rot ending, which can't be done after weaver
oh alright coool! i just need to close all the warps then
We just got an official name for batflies
They are apparently named "yan flues" and blue fruit is named "yan fruit"
Are you able to travel back to Industiral Complex? ||My group found the pearl reader and we forgot to pick up the blue pearl||
Nope 
look what i made guys
Wags my oopid tail,,,,,
PAIN
I assume no other prologue regions either then?
Oh wait Im in spoiler thread lmao
oh lawd he comin
||does anyone know what the name of this grass is in dev tools? i was lediting and wanted to test some things with this grass, but I can't find it anywhere||
i love the oopid ail
lowkey hate this bitchass creature but at the same time i love it so much
:3 its so fluffy 
YESSS
i love it
i love it so much its so pinecone
1.5 watcher my beloved
this update is so peak
wish they released all of this at once tbh
2 food pips 
NO
+10 regoinal lizard rep
the friend passage
pinwarp device
lantern in the dusk
(the other one)
leave little bro alone
What creature tweaks are there?
Would I be missing anything new if I skip the Prince ending? I did it before 1.5
no
Disappointed they didn't fix the ripplespace not working glitch in this path :(
like the visual bug one?
where you are in ripplespace but still see creatures?
No, sometimes when I go into Ripplespace it simply doesn't let me through the portal
oh that's something else, and yeah I was hoping that would get fixed
apparently they tried to fix it like 5 times in the past
Guess I'll keep doing expedition until they patch it 
I still haven't got all the DP achievements...
do you know why they had so many problems with it



