#Watcher 1.5 Spoiler Thread
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||just blooming it||
||just make sure he's born||
yeah but I didn't play in the beta atleast
maybe it was meant to be a dream when you sleep in shattered without max ripple?
but wtf are these things
how did you spawn them
beastmaster
thank you. Although, || I do have prince, however the pillar in daemon isn't shimmering gold. Is that normal?||
||the pillar on the right?||
yes
||which one is it||
thank you for your advice
also there are more versions of this dream with karma missing
||oh its an item||
im still curious about these
what the fuck are they
remind me of the uh
karma signs in some of the new regions
||some of these seems to be achivements and some dont seem to be even anyhting?||
wtf did we find
maybe it has to do with achievments?
I hope there is like another easter egg maybe not even another ending
||actualy they dont even seem to be actualy ripple, or achivements at all?||
actually wait yeah what
||the symbols might be procedurally generated?||
wtf are these
are we actually going to get watcher 2.0
speaking of which
why is it 1.5 lol
well rainworld updated from 1.0 to 1.5
watcher 1.9 real
||oh yeah the symbols also have shadows?||
Symbol
side quest spoilers: ||need a hint for the OR side quest, found a void spider in Fractured gateways that led to the cold storage portal. but then i went back to OR and spiral room was still at 5||
||yeah i feel like this is procedurally generated none of these looks like anything we seen||
||maybe the daemon cycle graphics where meant to look like this||
||interesting that the ripple particles where in the trailer but not in game, hmmmmm maybe we are missing something||
||they were?||
||bottom right when it shows signal spires||
||its actually when it shows stormy coast, ripple particles were left in base watchers code and they appeared when a creature entered ripplespace I think||
what the fuck
how did you get that?
mouse drag
or is there a secret or something
is knotspawn perhaps related to uh
weaver threads
||so knot spawn, the ripple symbols, (maybe the dream?), abd ripple particles||
We need an explanation to this
this is the thread for the new watcher update right
yes
you can talk in watcher spoilers about the new update but you must spoiler it and say its 1.5 spoilers
okok
i just had a question
i just started playing 1.5 but lowk i have no idea how to get out of|| ancient urban without a karma flower, i found one before but died while traveling through one of the new regions and now im stuck back in here, any hints or any way to get out??||
you can warp without a karma flower. or you can hibernate a few times for the karma flowers to respawn
||would it infect the region if i warped to outer rim?? ||
we need to get to the bottom of knot spawn
no
ok ty
it is unrottable
guys so my progress so far: || I had meet a entity that I guess is called weaver that after meeting threee times I guess it gave me power to close ripples, so my task rn is close them all? ||
interesting thing
the little floating objects in daemon
are called a crown
and the big golden orbs
are eyes
yep except daemon ones or AU
|| also appear I got immune to rot ||
damn that gonna take a while
|| wait my influence cleans the rot of a region this is so epic sorry prince ||
||i got this dream, it plays when you go to shattered terrace with less than max ripple||
||i'm guessing only the ripple symbols you have show up||
thought so thanks
i really dont know how to feel about many of these icons lol
tardigrade i probably dislike the most
is SO big
for such a tiny creature
omg this HAS to be something
||i litteraly just placed a knot spawn on my self||
||Why are all the ripplespawn in a ring||
i dont know π¨
i didnt do anything
i just reloaded my save
i beat ending twice in this save technically
cause i wanted to check something
i should do it again
i forgot to verify if i still got hunter'
woah
||why is that claw so high up?||
Dont think so
oh sweet
for me there was none on the (stone?) top part of the monolith if I remember correctly
side quest spoilers: ||whats the point of going anywhere if u can only use it once in OR? also my teleport to shattered didnt even work? lmao||
||you have to recharge it ||
i dont remember if there always was for me
i actually
never went to that part of daemon
in my playthrough
my first time in daemon was the weaver ending
bruh
claws were added in 1.5
||also why is there no daemon crowns||
yeah wtf is wrong with your daemon are you going to get something new?
im gonna do the ending again i guess
if you get it 500 times you get the super duper secret ending
actually?
why did I beleive that for a secondπ
knot spawns and millipedes actualy has an apearence in the daemon rooms you unlock after the true ending
||do void spawn usually appear in the outskirts part of the sequence||
faint but here
I dont remember but I could see that being just some random thing
i tweaked way earlier i feel
is it time based
i thought it activated when you hit the gate
who just triangle reacted your posts?
what if you actually just keep doing ending lol
theres more ripples for sure
post another ripple spawn image
either the person reacting is a random person trolling or there is a chance you are on the right page
lol
Theres no flowers??
is that spoilered?
are there supposed to be?
Did you do the prince ending
theres usually flowers even if you dont do the prince ending
yea
weaver is same
wait yea there where flowers i remember now
Huh i think your dev tool objects are like wrong
what does that mean
I dont think your dev tools objects are in the right place
||misplaced claws, missing daemon crown, and missing karma flowers||
maybe this is intentional
the grass has like an outline and dots below it wtf this might actually be something
no it just looks like that
oh okay
in my playthrough it def did not
daemon unchanged
maybe I am just going insane
i think you might wanna fact check
oh it shows on sleep screen, and you need like 50 wtff, should be like 10 max
is this normal
i have like
a spiral around my head
its not like the usual trial
its actually a spiral
hard to depict in screenshot
this is what my playthrough and daszombes looked like
what the fuck
this is different
ending ||i just got weaver, where do i go for the fourth ending?||
||follow the spawn||
what is different srry
lowk maybe repeating the ending works
||its turning purple||
that is normal I know that
is it
ouh
watcher going to places truly
this is normal too
I beat the game now. not sure if theres anything else I could have missed besides pearls
it is, this is off wiki, that is just the depths lights
no like
the liquid itself
i didnt get a halo again
like at all
i got crown
they took my arms too what
i dont think thats intentional
||im an actual worm||
sob
||the void fluid in the st ending looks different too might be graphics.||
i look so stupid
||yea that is what my ending looked like but I had the arms working just not the halo and It did look pretty dumb||
i got washer sleeping for my score screen though
gulp
||its all aether ridge||
lol daemon was the ridge we made along the way
||after stitching every rift, you just need to make a manual warp anywhere just to get the ending right?||
nah itll just be the last warp you enter
yea make sure you have all warps done
also just so you dont waste your time none of that was real
im mean but im not cruel enough to make you do that on your own
none of what
was the grass fake too π₯Ή miss information strikes again
oh
i think it was just because i was messing with devtools
this was just me messing around with the devtools objects
i didnt expect you all to buy it so easily
so i ran with it
the claw is fake too
So thats why your dev tool objects was all around the place
I am easily manipulated except for all of the images before watcher 1.5 lol.
and the rotted st room lol, kinda weird that james was typing at the same time tho
the information consumes
he was the one reacting
no james typing back when someone posted a rotted st room a while ago was that you guys?
I thought it was pretty funny
when i was first getting into level editing
i made this cause i thought it was funny
wasn't there a lobe tree?
maybe someone made a different one
I am just going to wait until more lore people beat watcher update so I can discuss the endings
it was a funny bit
yea that is what I remember
i know right....
thats funny though
i was wondering about that 
i totally thought you guys got me when you started mentioning dev tools
tbh
and when i asked what that meant sob
i was waiting for yall to click my profile and see the modder role
yea I was trolling with the ripple particles in the trailer (or was I...)
but anyways
i do wonder what the knotspawn were for
its a really fucking weird name
||I think unused things that would have showed a ripple going around daemon||
oh i wish they labled which region is which....
they are pretty visually evident but I can send a key here if you want
please do because i struggle with the color pallettes sometimes with some regions ( cough cough. aether ridge hoard and two of the aquatic ones)
||acronym_map = {
"WARF": "Aether-Ridge",
"WAUA": "Ancient-Urban",
"WBLA": "Badlands",
"WARD": "Cold-Storage",
"WRFA": "Coral-Caves",
"WRSA": "Daemon",
"WTDB": "Desolate-Tract",
"WARC": "Fetid-Glen",
"WWVB": "Fractured-Gateways",
"WARE": "Heat-Ducts",
"WMPA": "Migration-Path",
"WORA": "Outer-Rim",
"WPGA": "Pillar-Grove",
"WRRA": "Rusted-Wrecks",
"WARB": "Salination",
"WARA": "Shattered-Terrace",
"WSKD": "Shrouded-Stacks",
"WPTA": "Signal-Spires",
"WSKC": "Stormy-Coast",
"WSKB": "Sunbaked-Alley",
"WARG": "The-Surface",
"WSKA": "Torrential-Railways",
"WTDA": "Torrid-Desert",
"WRFB": "Turbulent-Pump",
"WSSR": "Unfortunate-Evolution",
"WVWA": "Verdant-Waterways",
}||
HI is industrial, CC is chimney, SU is outskirts
thank u so much!
np 
WHAT THE HECK IS THIS THING
thats himmothy
oh wait this is a thread not the spoilers room sorry
Yall better put the ||void spawn spider|| in new creature lists, it def uses creature ai to move
π₯Ή it was so cool lol
What does it do anyway?
I think I've only seen it once, and it ||pooped string everywhere||?
Just moves from A to B but navigates the terrain in real time
||I think it guides you to a rift||
what does real time mean dont everything moves in real time
pearl spoilers teehee
||I can't wait to see people's designs for Bell of Gesture tho, she is such a sassy girlboss and I really hope other people go bonkers over this new iterator that only shows up on one pearl, maybe two if that one image pearl is of her||
||Most people I've seen assume the iterator design in the pearl is Gestures||
||yeh but i want more art of her lol||
||why would they make a two pearls regarding an iterator in the same area and they not be the same lol||
||fair lol||
||I'm mostly want to see people's interpretations of what the hell eigen-selves are, multiple puppets I guess||
||I'm not entirely sure how that work, buts it's a interesting concept||
||... off the string iterators||
||let them be free||
||well the eigen-self ban definitely gives us a reason as to why the iterators haven't devised some way to just up and leave their cans. Ofc, this taboo can probably be bypassed, giving off the string iterator aus a bonus thing to come up with||
||wonder what fic writers are gonna do with this info oaa I'm excited to see if anyone actually tries||
||same thoooo||
||my iterator oc is off the string but it's nothing to do with she did it herself so||
||they better keep their big forehead in when drawing them LOL||
||guys help i got my save softlocked because i used the down+special while i got killed by the rain, is there anything i can do||
if all else fails go to options - backups and load the latest auto
youll be about 20 minutes behind where you were
Perfect thanks
Worked π
||ok so using it still kills me and also sends me automatically to cold storage so i guess ill uh. not use it.||
my whole save is a little bugged overall..
||it worked but still got sent to station annex <3 ||
I read that there's a new ending or more than one? Can anyone please give me some hints on how to get it and let me know if I need to restart the campaign
This is the right place to ask, right? I don't check this place often lol
how much of a hint do you need
Where do we go to report bugs?
steam news had links for reporting bugs
There's a bug ||https://youtu.be/vanpXNA8-UQ?feature=shared|| where I'm unable to eat ||Moth Grubs|| even though it possible in this video.
The rot is spoookyyy
Ughhh i just realized i forgot to give the ripple spiders a section, but theres not much about them anyway, they just show you where the next ripple is
Perfect, thanks!
Like, big enough dude. I've been roaming around the same rotted regions and idfk what to do
Lmao, I swear I'm trying but I'm stuck going in circles I guess
you don't need to restart
theres 2 new endings
hint i can give: ||something to do with portals||
hint for the other ending: ||requires ripplespace||
not a bug
you cant eat them
they're playing as hunter in arena
that's too vague of a hint
(Ending 4) ||I just had a random stupid thought - watchers eyes become yellow after getting jaundice... who else had yellow eyes? Void Worms.||
mmmmmmmm you can try to help
im,,,, not that good at giving hints
||'has to do with portals' can refer to any watcher ending to some extent really||
It was vague but I appreciate the sentiment
its not. hard to figure it out.
I guess it's over for me then 
a hint I can give is to ||linger around the portals you create||
you should be able to figure the rest on your own
I probably will
My next assumption would be stumbling my own way into whatever those feathers are

Okay, so dumb question, but is it confirmed that the Prince|| is a former iterator|| then?
Probably just eaten a large amount of iterators
And took a lot of their traits and abilities
||No||
||It just reaffirms they are iterator related||
ngl im very curious as to how future dlcs are going to turn out. like there isnt much lore wise to expand on, and it already feels like we have so many unique campaigns already. i really would love something like a region or a creature expansion to like the base game tho, maybe add a new character to visit or smt
doubt there will be more dlcs
well james did specify watcher 1.5 was the end to watcher not rain world as a whole, and i feel like it implies at least future content is still planned which im glad for personally
don't we already have mods for that? /j
true π
||One thing that i would like (but mostly won't happen) is that every single of those Stones was an ending (wheter is watcher's or other campaigns) to give you a REALLY REALLY REALLY Big ending, i mean every single one||
I want to meet NSH or ||the one iterator that is show in the new watcher pearls||
well all the other endings for the base game scugs are just ascention so
Maybe they could update that too, idk, if watcher got 4, maybe they can get 2? (Base Game)
||do the pearls have dialogue or is it just pictures and sounds||
|| guys removing the rot from regions with the special ability weaver gives is important for something? ||
||dont think so||
ok I working for free here
||some have text, but you need to have the ablity to understand it first||
||you get that from the ending right? where your teleporting around and prince gives you the mark||
||yes||
||maybe the pearls i got dont have dialouge then||
||the iterator is named bell of gesture||
I guess it really depends on the publisher. If the publishers want more RW, we'll get more RW.
But currently? Watcher is the ending of the franchise
I imagine once the community gets accustomed to Watcher, a demand for something new may eventually pop up
we weren't really awaiting Watcher right after Downpour released
It is completely up to the teams choice to continue and it has been vocalised
the team seems excited to make another dlc
i feel like an online version of jolly co op is a good idea- we already have rain meadow as a mod concept for it, and it works really well imo, the only reason i dont think it could happen is bc having rain world be online complicates things im pretty sure
i have no idea where a new dlc can go from here though, ending 4 felt pretty definitive
not really sure where you can progress the core narrative ideas from there
what other concepts are not explained or explored?
with every new DLC we've been getting new answers and new questions
dlc that could explain the ancients (not the benefactors) could be a posibility
only time will tell what awaits the 
Rain World Kart 
i wonder if we'll ever get a greencat campaign
dlc but we play as a benefactor quick someone mod this/silly
maybe it could be the next civilization starting or something
wouldnt that js be saint?
wrong green
i'm referring to the paler green slugcat from the alpha
i remember the pale green slugpup from the alpha
that loved killing it's siblings
π₯Ή
wtf
i really just want anything to exapand/involve benefactors.. 
i think they're expanded on pretty well
Artificer adopts green slugpup and the two take down the scavenger queen
honestly i think updating base game with new content would be pretty cool- like add new regions to spice up the way to get to moon or pebbles, maybe add new regions to the left side of the map that leads to an iterator and a handful of new creatures would be awesome. then fitting it all into downpour could make it feel like a real dlc
||whats causes ripple spider to spawn other then spiral quest||
third iterator would never happen connected to basegame map
the distances between iterators are wayyy tooo vast
you'd need a lot of new regions to get to a new Iterator, it really wouldn't be worth it either
five pebbles has infamously little replay value and a third Iterator would be five pebbles but without the benefit of first playthrough spectacle or the rot
theres the sunlit trail pack of mods that adds a third iterator and its funny seeing how much you have to walk to reach it LOL
sunlit trail is amazing
i gotta redownload it when i know mods r safe to use for watcher again lol
yeah
Is it just me, or are vultures weirdly absent from the Watcher?
ive been murked by a lot so unsure
crossing the distance between iterators is a very big journey
No miroses at all, and the basic vultures seem very rare
idont think miros vultures appear in watcher but i might be wrong
but ive run into a fair share of vultures
i don't think miros vultures are DLCshared?
vultures are kinda boring at some point
they are
oh huh
Signal spires would like to know your location
but yes they are fewer
pretty much the sole internally MSC-only creatures are those tied to a specific Downpour campaign
like... they become so easy to avoid i forget they even exist
i guess the reason watcher doesn't use them is just because they suck then lol
i recall a dev statement that they just made everything DLCShared by default unless there was sufficient reason to keep it Downpour 
who gave LIZARDS lasers (cough cough kaeporo)
(downpour) ||scav chief, hll, slugpups, trains, and firebugs||
blizzards arent really that bad anymore
i forgive them bc its kaeporo's creation
ive had a nice interaction with kaeporo, they liked my toy room and despite it being their room they said i could have it
with the new more unnatural cosmetics on blizzards (that glowing ring thing), the lasers feel less out of place

btw did the toy room always have an ogscule or is that new?
i love how you can have pet moths now
always
you can????
always
I never noticed it before 
its a bit painful but yea
the toy room im talking about is when i filled a specific arena full of toys
well one toy. but still
what do u even give them? like all ive ever seen them eat are vultures π
oh you dont give them anything
the toy room in question
||have you seen the moth cacoons before||
yes
bring one to a shelter
wow thats rlly cool ill def try that when i replay watcher to get the rest of the achievements
its a bit annoying cause
theres only like 3 shelters in the place they spawn in
and you cant lift them up poles
its odd they only spawn in one region when moths are in like a handful
other regions dont feel that safe for them to be fair LOL
aether ridge with the salt pits
i think thats the only other region actually π
do they hatch as baby moths or big ones 
Is there a echo at ||fetid glen||?
yes
they moved
far right of the region you have to go up then right
pearls keep duplicating on shelter and now I have 4 porls
|| does I can close the warp between shattered terrace and AU with weaver powers? ||
is it normal when the room ||gets more yellow||
||is It confirmed??? Nice!!||
not necessarily confirmed, but ||its highly likely from dialogue in another pearl in AU||
I think guardians, ancients (because what we see if i'm not mistaken are benefactors) more iterators (this is something i wanna see ||i loved bell of gesture||) and idk, i just want more rain world

||I still think watcher avoiding iterators with a ten foot pearl was overall a good thing||
||It allowed them to explore other aspects of the world||
Man with the ability to clear rot I really wish we could clear the rotted map icons
id definitely try to get that ||pearl||, i dont 100% know where it is bc i saw it in a stream from uranium eater, but its rlly cool
this is the ||bell of gesture|| dialog
And the rotted vanilla regions too
guardians could be a void entity, made by ancient or benefactors idk
i love them so mjuchhh
I still think Guardian's are artifical, and probably ancient constructed (judging by the fact their halos use a language used nowhere else in the game)
||Yeah, the lack of iterators was a good decision, but i would still love to see more of them (in other campaigns/new ones)||
||If they do more stuff with iterators, they better be unique stuff, I can't handle travelling through another exterior then a zero gravity maze||
||The pyramid iterators were cool to see, if only for the novelty due to being from the concept art||
||THEY ARE AGAINST THE TABOOS? LIKE, OPENLY?||
id love to see NSH, SRS, unparralled innocence, or even someone entirely new
I WANNA SEE ||BELL OF GESTURE||
And NSH too
THAT'S what i need
Unique things for unique iterators
||Considering Bell of Gesture is seemingly super old due to the info about them being located in AU, honestly, they could be a good example of what a Iterator dying of old age looks like. Honestly the idea of travelling through a naturally degraded iterator can sounds interesting||
YES YES
i liked the concept in sunlit trail of like travelling inside the cooling system of an iterator to get to them, and even tho its a smaller part of chasing wind its still a cool concept
||As all current cases we've seen of iterator cans being destroyed is due to other influences, so just seeing the result of natural decline would be cool||
id like that too
I LOVE what we got with watcher, ||but as someone Who enjoys iterators to death, i need to see more of them, i don't want them In watcher, but in other/new campaigns||
||Prince will always be my goat, but new iterators wouldn't be a bad thing||
||because watcher is perfect without iterators, i preffer them like that||
need more mods that have iterators
same.. like id love to visit NSH or SRS in survivor or downpour. but they need to be implemented in a unique way, not just as a 5p clone
||I LOVE THE PRINCE!||
EXACTLY
There's so much potential
i LOVE him sm genuinely one of my favorite characters in the game
||He is perfectly iterator adjacent whilst being his own thing||
FRR thats what i love so much about him
Honestly if we visit another iterator, I hope it's a entirely new one, but that's just my opinion
fair- i wouldnt mind either way
Maybe it's just over exposure to NSH/SRS/etc from Downpour
true...
I wish videocult made a community event were we could give them ideas about what we want in rw (obviously, edited by them to make It lore-acurate and not just fan service)
yea i have a lot of cool region and creature concepts im js not good enough at coding to implement them :/
as well as creature interaction ideas
Honestly I do feel iterators have kinda lost a bit of their intrigue - maybe it's largely because of Downpour (which I do like) humanising them so much. But I would love to have another dlc that reminds us that for all extensive purposes, iterators are basically random gods compared to the slugcat
First meeting Five Pebbles is quite a experience
||i loved how they confirmed that he WAS an iterator, also confirming that star catchers had their own iterators||
||no?||
||it doesnt||
||it affirms they are related but prince isnt a iterator||
||"perhaps i am not so different afterall" after giving the mark i feel is decent evidence||
||Him having the ability to grant the mark doesn't confirm he's a iterator, it just confirms that he shares that ability with them|||
||prince probbaly ate a bunch of iterators in the past and gained their traits and ablities||
||THAT'S THE THING IT MADE ME THINK THAT||
||also that could be It||
||Yeah, I still think Prince is just a rot homunculus born of the consumption of iterators by sentient rot. But he defiently does ponder the fact he's not so different, but that alone doesn't confirm he is actually a iterator- more that he's way similar to them then he considered||
||prince does clearly state thats they are not a iterator||
||maybe star catchers had their own puppets?||
||Idk, it would feel weird for a largely hollow structure to have a puppet||
||probably not, the purpose of star catchers are just to catch stars||
Plus, Prince isn't found inside a starcatcher really, he's incubated inside some giant rot mass inside a starcatcher
||maybe to report how the star catching is doing? Idk||
||and the throne isnt really inside the starcatcher, kinda like js a big tree above it||
||"i am... Something new" gives me chills||
So yeah, I still think Prince is a imitation of a Iterator, that is also very very similar to what uts copying far more than he'd originally like to admit
all of his lines give me chills π
I mean, his 1.0 dialogue is disparaging the iterators and the "folly" of their forebearers, calling his own solution the TRUE one
He technically was right? Since the flowers and stuff from second ending
I love his Pompous way of talking
I still go with the interpretation that the flowers were the result of Prince's plan backfiring
Really sounds like he was from royalty
||that line still establishes him as something else, just more similar to them than he thought||
it was so sad to me that he couldnt ||read pearls||
most plants and tumours are completely illiterate so it wasn't surprising
One thing I really like is the interpretation that parallels Prince's ending to whay happens to Hunter, with the distortion effect being the same for both Hunter's last cycle and the karma flowers trying to sprout... as well as the general visual of the karma flowers sprouting from a body
yeaa but still π
||when i saw new pearls i got so excited and yelled ITERATOR, ngl i got a tad dissapointed when i saw that it was a pearl reader, but then i got happy because of bell of gesture, and because we now know how benefactors readed pearls||
Hunter My baby π
(Plus it be interesting take on the fact cancer can get cancer for Prince to have a acquired a karmic sickness from his general attempts to expand outside his place in the ecosystem)
yea im not upset about ||pearl reader|| bc it is a cool way to get lore, but it js felt like... disapointing
I hated that the karmic balance wasn't a thing in downpour
EXACTLY
i'm glad we didn't really get much new iterator stuff
||Honestly I feel sad for Prince, as even if you do his ending, and even assuming he planned this karma floeer growing, you end up undoing all his work once you are given your weaver powers||
It wasn't bad, it was just unexpected
Me too! But i still want more of them in another DLC or smth
||the image of bell of gesture's construction is really cool, looked basically how i expected it to aside from the weirdly normal looking tower cranes||

like i had a lot of ideas on who could read them, whether it be prince, then when it wasnt him i though maybe a new character in signal spires, then when it wasnt that i kinda js got stumped. then i had the crazy idea maybe a living ancient could read us pearls, but nope
i think they've had their time in the spotlight, there isn't much more to do with them and it's not like they're the main thing
Signal spires would've been the BEST place to put an iterator on in My opinion
this is better i think, seeing the pearls in a whole new way
SAME id love to meet a signal spires iterator
||Both he and Watcher played their hands, and Watcher had the winning hand||
50/50, they are a good part of the Main thing since they provoke the rain
yea thats why im not too upset about the pearls themselves, rather just the way their read
they're Important but not the focus of the story
||AND HE STILL CALLED WATCHER "FRIEND" I'M GONNA CRY
||
Imagine they add new iterator who just is straight up evil, like none of the complexity of Pebbles (who is a arsehole who nearly killed the sister but still complex), just straight evil /j
without the rain it seems there are just sandstorms anyway
Yes, that's why i'm fine with watcher not having them, i think it's good to have a balance
sandstorms lack that fear factor the rain has, i wish it was more :/
Besides escaping from five pebbles territory would be amazing (like in watcher)
i love how there isn't even a speck of malice to him. newly born god of Quite Awful Stuff who lacks any bad intention whatsoever
yeaaa iterators stories have been exhausted it feels like, i just really love their aesthetic which is why i wish i could see more of them π
Give me a scavanger campaign and my life is yours, videocult
a non slugcat playable character would be really interesting
but i think its too risky to ever be a thing
In My opinion i loved the stories, but i would like something more... Base game like, downpour Made them more human-like, i wish we could see an ominous iterator, one that's reckless and truly has a god complex (like five pebbles but next level)
I mean, i feel Watcher itself even if it still had a slugcat chose to be risky
Five Pebbles, but evil /j
Ten pebbles
Those extra five got to his head
||what if for a future campaign we can visit a dead bell of gesture and ressurect her kinda like a hunter situation, i think that could be rlly cool ngl||
I would really like to see an iterator that actually could beat the taboos too
YES YES AND YES
a huge problem with having Another Iterator is that like
||imagine an iterator that managed to make their puppet wander in the world, and we have to meet them in various cycles at different spots (like spinning top)||
the level design would be a rehash of something that's already been rehashed to exhaustion
rain world is so much more than iterators!
I feel they'd never do a proper off the string iterator
i mean that's like if someone ripped their face skin off and it wandered the world somehow
That's what i think, if we get another iterator it should be something unique! Or not have one at all
that's the interface
Also through overseers, they already have eyes (and probably ears) all over the area around their structure
Yes! Ancients, void, benefactors, scavs, they have a lot to experiment with
I would love it if they implemented the enlightned scav
what i love about rain world is like there is always so much to expand on and add
I mean, NSH's overseer managed to seemingly get all the way to subterranean, which considering there'd presumably a quite far distance between most iterators, shows overseers have a long range
there's also the option of introducing stuff we've never seen
YES, it's never enough
weaver was so fucking cool for that
ALSO THAT
The weaver and daemon were peak
DEFINITELY
It's kinda funny how small a part of the game iterators actually were in base game, like sure, Moon was important for pearls and Five Pebbles served as a pit stop, but they overall weren't really that big a part of the game
We have gotten different spotlights through all the campaigns if You think of it
i mean five pebbles is arguably pretty important to the midgame narratively in the sense that his body is the climb to enlightenment
Yeah, but he's like the midpoint
his importance does basically amount to being a big mountain and also the wise hermit on top
honestly though, maybe its just me but i really wish creatures like lizards, vultures, and scavs were expanded on. like seeing more of their different stages of life such as a lizard egg, or different variants for the region their in (like the floof on saint lizards, but for vultures). changing the ecosystem and making it even more in depth could really be cool and smt that hasnt been done in awhile if at all
Honestly I feel if you wanted to have super in depth ecosystem thing, that would work better as it's own game, as whilst the rain world ecosystem is pretty good and expansive, it's still first and foremost a game
With the ecosystem being a background element
Spearmaster: iterators
Artificer: scavs and a little of iterators, also benefactors
Hunter:iterators and rot, also the void
Gourmand: purely slugcats
Survivor:void, a bit of iterators and slugcats
Monk: same
Rivulet: iterators and rot
Saint: a bit of iterators and mostly void, also echoes
Watcher: ||echoes, benefactors, the weaver, rot, and void, also all the places around the world||
yea.. but it could really spice up the game and make it much more replayable with all the new interactions and variation
That's kinda how i see the spotlights in each campaign
||I still hope somebody makes art of Watcher with the weaver like a fucking jojo stand... a random side tangent but I think it be funny||
YES LMAO
I would love something like "primordial" creatures, like a common ancestor of all of a specie
Like a Big ass vulture, the enlightned scav, a monstrous lizard and stuff
I also would love to know why the benefactors/ancients created some creatures like leviathan
γWEAVER ENERGYγ
Add King Miros Vulture in the next dlc /j
I would love to see an benefactor like, in front of you, that interacts with the slugcat
ancestral vulture would also likely be the ancestral squidcada and the ancestral snail
i also say this bc one of the biggest complaints in watcher was its lack of interactions, and i think smt more than "this eats that" could be cool. kinda like how a vulture grub will summon a vulture, or how scavs have kill squads, and mama noots will get mad when u steal their kids
It's kinda dubious if stuff like leviathan were made by the Bennies from my understanding. As even though they are clearly biomechanical, the line between machine and biology is extremely thin
i think that was a major problem with 1.0 watcher that was getting fixed
i think it was some kind of stationary machine that evolved to move over time
i also think leviathans are relatives of gates, if you pried a gate's inner workings open you might see a similar strange algal flesh to leviathans inside
Me filling my computer with organic brain tissue in order to increase my processing speed to be able to run UE without my computer explode from Cappin's evil grid (my computer will evolve into a hyper predator in the far future)
||well going near a moth cacoon makes moths agresive||
It's one of the awesomest too π
yea i do really like that interaction, its cool how ||u can basically see moths entire life cycles||
I would also love if something special happened if You gave all the pearls to moon or ||the pearl reader||, maybe an extra area or a cutscene, like ||a benefactor opening the door of the storage room once You read all the pearls and entering the room, so we could see them in person|| or Moon having back her memory and opening a path to a new region to the right, beyond looks to the moon (i had a dream of this ok)
I don't think we will ever see them in person
We were spoiled by just seeing them in shadow. Like that was a extremely surpirisng thing for them to show.
theres also the thing where if you pull out a fire sprite larvea from a box worm, fire sprites and box worms will become agresive towards you
I thought we were in ||the weaver's dimension|| lmao
RIGHT
The Moon thing tho i would love it
yea i like those parts of the game, i js wish 1: there was more things like that, and 2: more complex interactions so it actually alters gameplay significantly
I think asking to see one in full 4k HD person is probably a bit too much of a ask
like i really appreciate how u actually have to engage with badlands ecosystem to get to the left, u cant js run through it even with invis
Every dlc from this day onwards will be infested with frogs, that is a prophetic vision I've been given
Yay
I hope to meet more horror beyond comprehension
what are people's thoughts on ||the name benefactors being canon||
yeah, even if just on the basis that animating them to look convincing would be hellish
Yeah, aren't the shadows just a bunch of random creature parts stuck together
extremely funny that they just straight up used it as a noun
yeah
Like one of the head shapes is literally a miros bird leg
that's one of the sprites used in the jumble
I guess they finally got tired of the debate and wanted to settle things once and for all /j
You know what kind of stuff i would love to see if we get another DLC? ||migration path type of stuff, THAT WAS SO FREAKING COOL, we got a glance of how the drill crabs expand in the lands||

seeing very different names is extremely intriguing also
i loved ||migration path|| it felt trippier than fetid π
I am sad we didn't get nightmare demons (unless you count the ||anglerfish)||
like. K'Arelus of Mart
regardless of whether it's a kmart joke it's still a huge ass thing to drop on us
very different name for someone in the distant past
how distant?
I wonder if K'Areleus is from the same era as Pel
The ||drill crab march|| was PEAK, i need to see more moments like that in rain world, were the ecosystem is truly the spotlight, maybe a campaign were we have to migrate around the world??
ive always really loved that part of rain world, and if anything were to ever be expanded on in the future id hope it be that ! :)

Me too
I would also like more tamable creatures
Like, imagine having a miro vulture keeping You safe
ive heard ||moths are tamable now, which is SO awesome, i rlly need to try it sometime cuz id love to have a pet baby moth||
thatd probably be too far :/
I'd love more cryptids like what stowaways were like
yea i js want more creatures in general, like theres so much potential imo- its the one thing that has never been really expanded on
I'm exagerating, but new tamables would be cool!
I always love to see new lizards too
But we need more varietu
yea i love the ||peach lizard||
their so silly
I HOPE THEY ARE
||bring a moth cacoon to a shelter and itll hatch from what ive heard||
I would love it if they appeared in other places along yellows
their kinda like aquatic yellows
Honestly the idea of rare, probably extremely creepy creatures who won't encounter often. I'm pretty sure stowaways were intended to be something along this line before being reduced to their current form ( @limber solstice am I misrembering when I think there was plans for stowaways or at least the creature that would become them to be vastly different than how they turned out?)
also that one massive pit spider concept
Yeah, give me that good shit
We should get easter egg creatures like that
Like
Can you carry more than one of the prologue pearls to a starting watcher region?
They appear in certain rooms with a certain probability
this is the concept of the stowaways in their current form
Also do they have any unique lines on the pearl reader or is it generic ?
their original concept was a flying bug that would implant parasites iirc
Yeah that was what I was thinking of
horribly gross but kinda cool π
(Also sorry for pinging you, your like the only downpour dev I know who's consistently active in this server)
no need to apologise!
Like idk, a special type of scav that's chunky and massive, that travels around the world, and You unlock it in arena just with encountering them, because they're so rare

SCAV PUPS
YES
we NEED them
We need more scav variety
desert scavs wouldve been so cool
Honestly if they wanted to do some creepy shit, I'd really like it
Different body types would've been peak
Like really skinny but long ones
Or fatties like gourmand
Still sad that we didn't get scav chief with a gun like the original concept art for arti /j
like ive heard the concept for "painted scavs" that use indigo lizard spit to protect themselves from locusts- i think thatd be cool
||they do that now! But with something like a smoke tool||
I'm sad we didn't get an enlightned scav that could talk like in the original concepts of the game itself
I just want man bennie-made-horrors beyond comprehension, can you blame me?
i know but im thinking more of a cosmetic difference unique to them :/
Ohhh, yes that would be peak-peak
I agree, we need edlritch creatures like loaches
rain world creatures just have so much missed potential in so many aspects, but idk maybe thats js my minor obsession with ecosystems in general π
No ur right
I mean
I LOVE WHAT WE HAVE
But we could have very interesting stuff also
YES definitely, and thats why i wish we had so much more bc of how cool everything is now- it js needs to be more complex and important
They nailed it with ||drill crab march||, i can't stop thinking about it
I'm surprised they chose them to do that over raindeers though
watcher added so many unique creatures and environments, it has so much potential
rain deers plus sand doesnt make much sense
im ok with them js being in ||pillar grove||, thats kinda the only place for them to make sense anyway besides maybe surface
Nono, not in ||migration path|| but another region
ohhh
well ||crabs|| are newer and cooler, and rain deers have a reputation of sorts...
I mean, the concept of ||migration|| would fit raindeers SO MUCH
Lmao ur right
I'm glad ||we see them in pillars i think? Idk but we see them in watcher||
yea they were such a nice suprise! rain deers will always be adorable no matter how stupid they are
Unfortunately they are put in a room with frogs
Thus condemned to eternal torment
I love them, idc if they're stuppid
short life to the frogs
PUSH THEM INTO THE ROT
Just use a rot tentacle that isn't connected to his body

I would love to make rain world fan art, but i suck at art
I practice tho
I just don't know how to improve
rain world looks good in so many styles
practice!
doodles are oddly good at helping
The thing is idk how to practice
i'll try to do more doodles while i watch anime then
thatll work! :)
consistency and practice are key
no one starts off as picasso
so its ok if its not good at first
Do you think that Moon and Prince would get along? π
Without the octopus trickery I mean
But if he's chill i think she would be chill with him, but cautious
i feel like prince would be pebbles' nightmare π
Pebbles would hate his ass so much
To be fair, Pebbles hates everybody
true
nah, he's just very tired and extremely frustrated
he's in an awful situation so of course it's taking its toll on him
||whos grumpier, pebs or bell of gesture..||
I always saw it like pebbles was just grumpy, but didn't literally hate the others
||Bell of gesture is definitely not grumpy, just stern and really focused, i see them more as "idgaf" type of person||
It's like NSH's opposite
yea i can see that kinda
she has a big forehead, i hope ppl who draw her fanart keep that design choice
pls keep the big forehead.. its funny..
it's interesting that we see bell of gesture under construction but also have an interview. you'd think they'd wait until the iterator was finished but i guess they're kinda like the death star in that they don't need to be complete to be active
she looks like an alien in that way kinda
||I love everything around bell of gesture, Even if there's only crumbs of her, i think She's one of the first iterators to be Made, that's why She's so detailed, and had an interview, has that vision of things, AND had news that seem to be talking about her building process||
Ngl i see those Pearls having quite a time between each of them
yea definitely, shes really cool in that way
welp im gonna go eat chat, cya! :)
I love this type of character that has SO little about them, but are so attractive that makes You fall in love with everything that revolves around them
Cya!
That is so hilarious
im amazed how there are mobs worse than raindeers
Single brain cell organism
traversing the map with their help has been a total nightmare
we needed to have a spiritual successor to raindeer
These are like fat Cats that get stuck everywhere
Mad God's Domain
do the uh
new moth grub things
let you tame them?
like if i hatch a moth is it friendly
You can kidnap a child and take it to raise as your own (it even comes with a tag)
Wdym a tag
on he leg
he may just eb stuck
I think the pet moth might be a... teeny bit bugged
Yeah Maybe it's a bug
I mean, it is a bug
Get it get it?

what the fuck is this
I hope they get improved tho
i found this while trying to wake up the prince
weaver
what did i just find
find him
how
use ripplespace to help, but go through the pipes around the area
youll know ur in the right room when the echo roomthingy appears
what echo thingy
my brains working on slow mode sorry 
it should show you what way to go
if it doesnt help go through the surronding pipes and look
gotta do it inthis cycle tho if u sleep he'll leave
not sure how to help other than what i told sorry..
not a bug
tamed moths arent meant to follow you
they will defend you if they're nearby though
I know what this is ||when you visit spinning top in shattered Terrance without the levels needed you get this dream where the middle logo flashes red||
||i headcannon named this dimesion as weaverhome, just wanted to throw that out||
||I shall name it Jaundiceland||
lol
oh yeah ||notice something interesting about this place?||
||a sky full of dust clouds above and a sea of swirling dark liquid with goldish highlights||
how do i find the ||feather|| thing
||have u visited the feather regions?||
im in one
shattered terrace
i think it was still feathered
idk it didnt exactly give me a way to check
last time i saw it it was
chat does anyone know how to spawn the ||millipede|| joke creature? i cant seem to find it with dev console
use beastmaster maybe idk
||am i supposed to find a golden crack thing? i cant find it||
Hold ||down+special|| to create ||a path to a chosen destination|| black screens my game... What's supposed to happen? Did I miss out on a cutscene? Should I reset my game or do anything?
god im not having a good time rn
poisoned by basilisks bc theyre actually cancer
chased by ripplespawn
looking for gold cracks in shattered terrace and finding zip nada
this is so
fun
guys im having fun ahaha im having fun guys look at me this agony is funny
its so funny that i pass out every 3 seconds near a treacherous cliff
its so funny that im being chased by omniscient purple eels that i cant even do anything about and cant choose to get rid of
its so fucking funny that basilisks are the bane of the bloody earth and almost none of the issues i found were actually fixed!!!!
WHAT KILLED ME
HOW DID I DIE TO
ughhh
ok i found the stupid ||crack|| what do i do now
||go into ripplespace and follow the threads||
follow them where
||it should bring you to someone||
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BLOODY RIPPLE AMOEBOE
||the threads should be pointing to a pipe||
they werent
id show you but im being swarmed by ripple amoeba
heres a screenshot
they arent pointing anywhere
Let's all agree to name this thing the slugcaterpillar instead 
The beast
the the
Attack it π
that doesn't sound suspicious in the slightest π
Jokes aside, they're (actual spoilers)||baby moths. They don't do anything, but adult moths don't like it when you mess with their children.||
bump
so this explain why the moths got mad at me when I threw a spear at one of them
like 3 moths over me
Still playing through the new 1.5 content, but I gotta know: is there anything more to ||the rot worm in Unfortunate Evolution later on?||
it was always complete
so no 
hey so
id like to
find a way to progress now
please
nvm i
figured it out
what now
you need to keep finding him





