#Watcher 1.5 Spoiler Thread
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||Moth grubs||
if you mean ending 4, ||that doesnt have an actual cutscene so there's no files for it||
still need the answer?
wait why does he have a color band this is unlore
yes i have been making randome portals
Because it’s cute
got the blossom acheivement time to find out how to get this
what if moths can just straight up grow bands on their legs sometimes
you need to hang around the portals you make
perhaps something will happen
As I've proposed before, maybe the Bennies decided to just make the bands a genetic thing
Yeah
what sleep or... just exist
Uhhhh how do I get past the second room? I cant see the terrain when entering it
how get blossom?
bloom the prince
sleep
makes sense
guys, is this ||peach lizard|| okay
region and creature spoilers
That’s a bug we get too
I think ||pillar grove|| is a wrayk region tbh. give me those real wrayk vibes that I cant put my finger on
so
i already softlocked myself
i got to a shelter in the ending sequence
||when it spits you into hydroponics||
||and it replaced the forced warp with a normal portal||
||and now im just||
||walking around outskirts||
okay well i can just warp not exactly a softlock
OK hello canal wall tile, I know what you are 
wait
||what if the true ending prince cameo takes place post prince ending regardless of what you do||
||and the huge golden glow you see in the exterior is the flowers?||
i like the new palette of ||the surface||
I like the new ||THREAT THEME|| for it
||how do you get the mindless swimmers and floaters achievement?||
(Weaver) ||The weaver my beloved||
||Maybe meet Spinny in shattered terrace? Since that's where they say that dialogue||
IT UNSPOILED IT DAMMIT
||i assume talking to spinny in shattered terrace? thats the one where they talk about that||
FUCKIN DISCORD
who da helly is this
yall
didnt get anyhting
I'm so sorry
whats the song that plays in the ||tower crab bridge in migration path?||
j pfp 👍 murder drones is peak
Why the fuck is discord like this
I HATE DISCORD SOMETIMES
Well, I’m literally J so
||I am sorry I accidentally jumpscared you with John Weaver||
Sobbing
what did it unspoil
Major watcher spoilers
||void weaver||
||what's the song that plays in the bridge at migration path 😭||
||what if the weaver didnt kill prince, daemon did||
||and the watcher ending is the same thing happening to us, daemon disposing of a threat to its cycle||
Discord is sucky
||weaver obviously didnt kill prince they dont have any karma flower abilities. anyway i wouldnt attribute that much intelligence to what happened to prince, it seems more like a natural consequence of prince trying to spread through so many strands||
?????
Wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo WO WO WO wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo WO! WO! WO!
Badlands threat theme be like
wtf is this thing tho
||Honestly, I'm more a believer of Prince's fate just being a result of them spreading too far and stepping out of their place in the ecosystem, getting given a karmic sickness similar to Hunter with equally tragic resulrs||
||i doubt the daemon would want us gone after the weaver questline since we seem to be rectifying our mistake||
||Are you supposed to see overseers in Watcher's campaign? I can't remember if you are or not.||
I've not booted up the new update yet just curious, ||Does the game prompt us on where to go after spinning top takes a bath? and we get the cutscene with the toys.|| 
NPC
a character you'll meet
no
||Then why is he here???||
what room is it in? im a dirty hacker so i wanna just tp there :)
||oh they do appear in the prologue if thats where you are||
That'd be funny as hell but im also not sure if ||the watcher turns into a "void" worm as we know them, then again we dont get to see the other void worms up close so its possible to them that the other void worms look just like them as well. They do stop morphing at some point, so it feels like they might be in a very juvenile stage if they bare any similarities. My crackpot theory is watcher turns into a ripple worm, a being bound to keep the balance of their daemon to prevent something like this reality collapsing ever again.||
||its much more complicated then just teleporting to their room||
||Ohhh ok||
but we were still a problem
||you need to start a quest to be able to see them||
||guys, how can i get 2 pearls trought a daemon portal?||
and what room is that in
||daemon activates, and snaps the cycle back into the proper order right before it shows us watcher ascending||
depends
also, this chat seems like an scp article with so many spoilered messages
||ok so mindless swimmers and floaters is just dieing to a ripplespawn||
real
LOLOL
you're going to have to figure out yourself lol
||so watcher DOES have an ascension ending??||
||Yeah, I personally believe that watcher is kinda become a juvenile void worm||
||play it to find out||
perhaps you should just go get the endings yourself. it'd save you a lot of confusion
so basically ||watcher ascends and becomes rot??||
||still, im asking how to get 2 pearls trought a daemon portal||
||No||
but why
||also we literaly turn into a void worm, which is seemingly us ascending to a new spot of power, which would be wierd if litteraly the fabric of reality wanted us gone||
use magic and hack the game or something idk
||WHAT???||
||I still think it's because of weaver giving them jaundice||
wahhhhh
PLEASE PUT WARNINGS FOR WHAT YALL ARE TALKING ABOUT
I think watcher just accidentally stepped to an adjacent parallel universe, this is what you see when you step into one in super Mario 64 /silly
⬜
seriously just go get an ending or even just look it up on youtube so you actually know whats happening
Yeah but endings are still spoilered
I need some help with the third ending
can we get a third spoilered channel that doesn't need to be spoilered
At this point if you dont want spoilers for the endings, go toward the normal channel xD
Yeah
ripplespace thread
Probably best to just leave thus channel
This is the spoiler battleground
so basically, ||look for shit somewhere, then go to daemon, (post-prince ending) and i beat the game??||
not me, im still on prince 😭
Well, almost all
guys, still, how do i get ||2 pearls trought a daemon portal 😭😭||
more or less
Aight yeah no I’m exploding
first, where's the portal between stormy coast and heat ducks, and secondly, is it only one left I need to close before I could get the ||weaver|| ending?
ah fu-
I dont think its possible </3 store one in a shelter and take one in your stomach
||i have gotten every single watcher achievment horray||
CLOSING PORTALS???
im in a hard to reach region :(
tell me how NOW
beta version carried achievements over
Oh what about the ||warp passage ability?||
tell me how to get them tho :<
Can't you go to AU directly?
||whats that||
oh
||i think no||
I don't have them all yet myself
oh\
some help please?
you cannot teleport directly to au
sadly
i think i will go to shattered terrace and then go again and again
||it might be, not sure. you'll definitely know when you've closed enough though, trust me||
I closed literally everything else except for the mentioned warp + those to Ancient Urban and Outer Rim
You will have to close the outer rim ones from the outside into OR
Endings spoilers: ||What do you guys think the weaver place is? Personally I think it might be kinda like daemon where it is out of the world, either that or it is above the firmament. Weird that there are strings and fractured triangle stuff in the bottom, also there is like a ripple thing coming out of weaver.||
lemme guess, go thru a permanent portal with karma flower
for me I beat without closing 2 of the throne warps
|| the only actual rift to outer rim is in daemon though, which doesnt need to be closed||
I'm honestly not sure (3rd ending spoilers) ||I do imagine the weaver themselves as the opposite of the rot in a way, not as wide spread and contained. Also the fauna vs flora themes are strong i feel||
||feel like weaver is a void entity thats just trying to keep everything running smoothly||
Oh like the ones you make in the throne I mean
where is the Heat Ducts > Stormy Coast warp
far right of the region
I've been to every room and haven't found a single unclosed warp
try ripplespace?idk
Gotta wait for alduris to update the interactive map hartbreak
||Idk if this matters much, but it is inside daemon in terms of being a room inside that region||
same with the ||tree place|| lol
||I can't tell if this is meant to have lore implications or if they just didn't want to make more regions||
||i assume its just easier to stick the new rooms that only exist for like 10 minutes in the region you're already in instead of making a new one||
||expanding on this. Each monolith in daemon is meant to repesent a single being, but spread out through the cycles, with the each thread shown in daemon being a different verson of you, with the entire region of daemon being your monolith.||
how do you read the text pearls?
||theres a room in au that has something that can read pearls||
yeah but is the text meant to be undecypherable?
same they swapped the echo and the salination portal
does that mean I only need to take care of these four to the left to get the job done?
||you can understand the pearls at a certain point, but not right now||
does anyone have the list of all the new spinning top locations?
Is it possible to get mark of communication in watcher?
||yes||
How? I think I've been to about every region so far except unfortunate evolution which I hope isn't how u get it since I'm close to finishing ||weaver ending ||
you acquire it when ||prince gives it to you in their last monologue with you||
Is it still possible to get?
don't know, I'm wondering about that right now myself
how will i know if i have found the guy enough?
yes
Ok good
||they stop appearing and you gain a new ability||
wow
how the tables have turned
moth gets eaten by vulture
ahh
please spoiler tag this ||(its quite a cool suprise)||
the ability of ||closing rifts||?
||yeah||
ahh i see. i get full jaundice
||ya :3||
unless that room is somehow hidden I've been to all rooms in Torrential
oh dam I think the invisibility meter goes down faster
sick 
good to have some actual risk to using it for a change
where is the connection
||if i remember correctly the coral cave torrential connection has been removed||
so the absence of that connection is going to prevent me from getting both weaver and consequently the final endings?
||Are you stuck in torrential?||
||theres a new connection on torrential||
||I am going to see if I can get 4th ending without prince ending at all||
no, unless the nonexisting connection between torrential and coral caves counts towards weaver
||are you using a old save?||
yes? it was explicitly said old saves are fine and won't exclude any significant new content
mhm
then so be it
i feel morally justified to devtools my way out of this on a new save
so why are you assuming theres a connection between torrential and coral? is it visible on your map?
the world map, yes
||im pretty sure using the world map on a old saves shows warps that have been removed||
anyone got good direction for where to go I keep seeing ||gold portals|| and all my regions have ||gold feathers|| but Im not seeing any ||threads||
||are you going into ripplespace next to the gold rifts? the threads are only visible there||
were people with older saves able to complete ||weaver||'s ending?
||i think so||
They dont really lead anywhere in the room when I do
||you have to follow them from one room to another until you find The Thing||
OUghhh they're so cuute ☹️
Spoilered for new creature
ok now im lost...|| i dont leave portals behind anymore||
I'll give it a try ty
||the threads should still appear in ripplespace though... maybe follow them?||
Prince is just giving me dots... am I locked out of getting mark since I'm almost finished with the ||weaver ending||
||nope, you can still get it. it will be a bit later though||
Oh ok
Two questions if any one knows:
||How long do manually chosen destination portals last?
With Weaver’s ability can regions be fully cured of rot? ||
||1, I think 5 cycles?
2, No||
Awww, I liked seeing the regions restored to their original state + all the karma flowers
Thanks
||Actually maybe you can If you clear all rooms, cleared rooms save if they are not next to rot rooms||
I’ll try on a small region like torrential railways
I’m curious if the rot can still spread from another infected room
Although guh imagine clearing all of aether ridge
random question again, is there a place to read pearls that got added in 1.5 or am i carrying these thangs around for no reason other than Habit
blah
||there is||
and if there is what region is it connected to? so i know if i’m close or if i should leave them in a shelter somewhere and come back later
||oh groovy||
||it is in ||||ancient urban||
oh cool i’m nearby! thanks y’all :]
i’m a certified Pearl Lore Collector so this is the one thing i was super hoping for with the big update
hey do yall know where the gold portal is in AR?
I've been looking for it for like 30 min now lol
watchys can i have some advice (new region)
continue the way ||the normal version of the region is, this region is a time variant of verdant waterways||
||big guys fly by every once in a while, distracting the locusts and letting you pass safely under them. go to the left from where you are||
welcome back, farm arrays
this has been resolved I just found it
hey so do passages do anything now
not that im aware of
for those who want to know it's up near the top of the tram-way
thought what
the ||blimp whales||?
||leviathain whales||
||golden portals dont have a set location, its your portals but closed||
yeah
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i never thought they would actually be used in anything
I am gonna have so hard of a time
also guys when you complete the campaign there's a secret in the illustration files with a.. familiar face 😏
||The Looker||
lets have a look
||👀||
theres actualy text on it that says
||looking for little old me??||
||admit it, you missed me ~||
and im personally scared
😏
guys there is smth wrong on my try to spawn the prince
||they also have the roblox male face lol||
I opened the third warp and returned to the top, saw the cyst, but when returning down no new pipe appear
is there some new step I missing
not enough regions rotted?
whats your current ripple
yes
need to rot the regions now to prince spawn?
before was just do those steps straight forward
you just need to open all 4 warps in the throne im pretty sure?
the problem is that the pipe to open the 4 one dont appear to me
idk, it's just a guess, i only did it when watcher released and i don't have the memory to say what i did or didn't do, lol
whats your current ripple
at least the last ||trapped floaters|| are here, I only need like 7? and I get uhhh at least an achievement probably
Shoot I don't have a karma flower
you need ripple 7 to unlock the 4th room if i remember correctly
is there a way to tell that you got them all?
before wasnt like that
no the ripple requirement for the throne rooms was in 1.0
oh uh how long does it take for a personal portal to shut?
so I must had a high ripple when made the first time
time to hunt spinning top
ok first time I see a colored porl on watcher and I still dont have any info of new stuff so idk how it could be read
ngl no matter how I end up feeling playing through the rest of this dlc again, the prologue is still a REALLY good tone setter
spinning top is interesting even if im not super hooked to their whole character, the whole hook of finding echos in vanilla and slowly breaking apart the world until you literally can't exist within it is really cool
like if vanilla's ending was ascending past the confines of the cycle and escaping, watcher's prologue feels like you're just breaking down every aspect of the world's logic to the point where it just smushes together
just got on ripple 7 that must be enough
i also just found one, no idea whats the point though
idk if this is a new area but i think it is, i found it in ||migration path||
I found on the regions that already existed on watcher
oh, i thought there were none in the original regions? did i miss them or did they get added?
also im really screwed in like, i know i missed some regions/random things when i played watcher originally
so i dont know whats even new in the game when im playing or what was originally there xD
I found one on turbulent pump and other on desolate tract
oh my pearl just did duplicate
one more on heat ducts
||how many times am i supposed to see weaver? ive seen them 4 times so far||
||i think thats it? if the feathers stop appearing then you've seen them enough to begin the next phase of the quest||
||where do i go next?||
⁉️
||you should be visibly changed once you meet the final weaver||
you'll notice it soon enough
||i have the tail feather plume thing||
you are ||visibly changed after each of them, even if the first one is subtle||
||try going through a rift||
||yeah i know its just that subtlety that is easy to miss at first glance with how used to watcher you are ||
||have you gone through any warp points yet||
i just made one
||it made a portal that stayed there?? wtf||
|| guys I cant send images but I found a thing similar to the normal portals that appear on the regions but gold (same that appear on the 1.5 trailer time 0:20, couldnt interact with it and after sleeping disappeared, what should I do if see it again ||
what ripple do you have?
||wait until you get the maximum ripple level. then perhaps try using your ability in proximity of it||
|| I have max ripple and use the ripple space thing on it, it got purple but didnt saw nothing happening and returned to the normal space ||
maybe I should had waited more?
||there should be a bunch of purple threads that appear surrounding it in ripplespace, have you tried following them?||
|| not I was quite anxious and left ripple space before even moving ||
they spawn randomly on regions?
gonna have to hunt for it again
I've been playing for a bit on my old save and. Kinda cool new stuff at first... But I realize I've kinda just seen ||3 new regions, creatures that are usually just bigger versions of other creatures, a graffiti thing, and doing Rot Quest 2, Fix The Rot||, is there anything specific I'm missing...
I'm really deliriously tired from playing rain world for. An unhealthy amount of time
wait is there an ||un-rotting|| mechanic?
Should I be returning to throne or daemon...
hm. not really. theres another ending but otherwise thats a pretty good description of the new content
maybe check out daemon from time to time
there's a way to know which regions have one, you'll figure it out eventually
Seems to be so if you're doing the ||void weaver|| stuff
I guess I know, some feathers appear over the region right?
Cuz I've definitely watched rooms seem to ||de-rot|| in real time
||Having trouble finding The Weaver inside Salination, managed to find the cut off warp and the threads in ripplespace but they all lead to dead ends so far.||
I saw some regions with that
||if you stand in a rotted room with weaver powers it slowly becomes unrotted||
I will head now the normal ending for the achivement and later check the other stuff
||are there feathers in the map? if not, maybe try going through a rift or two||
waow. never noticed. cool
My friend said they saw something that looked like an ||angler|| but I have not... Where are they
||you also become immune to proto rot and seemingly rattlers||
oh yeah I noticed the latter
I did as well
you also ||get to teleport without losing karma protection||
||deep water. lots of them in the darker parts of salination and fetid glen||
But the first is convenirnt too
||Oh weird. Not sure how I missed them, I've been swimming there. I'm assuming they act as a replacement for eel lizards?||
||possibly? i dont think i saw any eels in the same areas as them. if you're playing on an old save i dont think the spawns get updated so maybe thats why you missed them?||
I can't wait to see the end but I really wish ||void weaver had more dialogue stuff. Like Prince or ST. They'd at least stop and talk to you or you'd visit them to check progress and chat||
both chats are talking like scp entries
||before i warped to Salination i saw there are feathers, could that have changed after i arrived?||
Maybe... Could try to use spawn resetter.
how are we supposed to ||read all of the pealrs, like we can collect them in shattered through daemon or something but then we would still need to ship em through all of ancient urban||
Accidentally misread this as script entry bc SCP is short for Script in Petz.
That's the only method I've seen and it. Sucks to do so far
||Grab pearl -> Find Daemon -> Go through Shattered (sometimes go through OTR because it's bugged?) -> go to AU -> read pearl -> it's another ancient's .wav||
It's soooo tedious
||ah so you're still at that stage. well if you sleep after finding the gold rift it and the weaver disappear, so maybe you accidentally got rid of it?||
Makes me wish I could store more
||I haven't been in a shelter after i have found the gold rift. Just having issues finding the Weaver since all the paths with threads in ripple space lead to rooms without any threads||
||well im afraid i cant really help you there. maybe try a different region?||
gotcha, thanks for the help anyway!
third ending spoilers ||being able to random portal at anytime is so nice, and it seems to be weighted to regions with outstanding portals too||
||do i have to clear EVERY portal tho, there is so many||
||weaver does half for you I am pretty sure||
Curious question for those who have beaten the game already. ||If you finish the Prince ending first then finish the Weaver ending second, does Prince stay paralyzed?||
||yeah every time you clear one john "the void" weaver clears another||
gimme a moment to check this 👍
||i do not believe prince becomes un-paralyzed by the weaver ending, no||
i noticed a lot already done but thats nice actually
Yea 
||Noooo my boy.|| Okay, well thanks for answering!
wait but screen lady's question was ||does prince stay paralyzed, and you say "no", so prince moves? or stay that way unmoving? ||
i misremembered the question but they stay dead yea
wait
what if the weaver
is an embodiment of the void itself
in the way the prince is the rot
I don't feel like the weaver is in charge of keeping things perfectly organized like, on a cosmological level
that seems to be the job of the monoliths
||i went through outer rim and got the down + special ability thing but i couldnt use it right when i got it because no karma flower (i assume this is what happened considering when it told me to hit special in the menu nothing happened) and now i can't use it, the spiral room thing is still full, and nothing happens in the room up top where you get it||
i dont Think this is as intended
||you have to collect more ripple spawn to use it again, shelter to check how much you have||
DAMN!!!!
I did the same thing lol
||when i down + special it just initiates cloak / ripplespace instead of any kind of failing animation||
is that normal too?
i thought i got bugged and didnt have it or something
thats normal when you have enough you can just do it
yea
||is this empty or full||
empty
its as many as you needed to get it idk maybe
i only started counting when i was 4 away
but i do think it's 20 even tho i cant see the bottom
oh what the hell :0
Ending ||4|| reaction:
||Ooooh my fucking||
||HOLY WEAVER ENDING SO PEAK WTF|| (endings spoiler)
||that last cutscene art was incredible AND the new menu art too||
Watcher 1.5 Spoilers
||I found some new colored pearls, who should I give them to?||
store them at a good shelter until u figure out how to carry them to the one that give u the content probs
who? the scavengers. they really like those ones.
||Where do the Diplocaulus lizards spawn?||
But I want to know what they says
I want to know the ||contents of the pearls||
the scavengers don't say much, they mostly use gestures
do you want a hint or just where to go?
where I go
||AU in the ceiling of the workshop room to the right||
Cool thanks
(final ending spoilers) ||got score screen, weaver ending was peak, final ending was underwhelming but the prince part was sick||
Do we know... If beastmaster works...
good question (for ending stuff) || whats ur score screen pic and did you have msc on or off? ||
you want a screenshot of my ||score screen||? also msc on
yea sure
or just the score?
we are discussing why jackal has a "death" pic, topapo has a ||ascension|| pic, and then another one has a sleeping slug pic
no we are mainly discussing about the pictures on ur score screen
oh mine was ||a sleeping watcher||
yea so the mystery of jackal's score screen continues...
jackal and topapo both has msc off too but jackal and the other one (forgor who atm) has a bugged in-game scene (minor visual bug?)
omg i love them so much 😭
I LOVE THEM
Can anyone send a photo of the ||tower crab||
ill reply to a message that contains an image of them!
heres one
Thank you
np!
Thats big
final ending spoilers ||thinking about that sick zoom in visual of the daemon monoliths each with their own reflections and the animation of u & weaver breaking all the connections and bringing all the local realities back in line. so cool||
Major ending spoilers
||What do you think of my new friend 
named them Light In The Dusk, felt like it fit...
||
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what the fuck do i do here
what do you play it on
GOG
ohh ive never used gog before im not sure
Guess I'll wait a bit longer and see
||WAUA|| pearl read
im doing all the vanilla pearls next, just gotta get them here
I think you might be screwed on this 💔
||there are like feathers around my shattered terrace and signal spires icon on the map, is that a sign of weaver?||
||yeah :3||
i only just completed the ST ending so im not sure how to get the other stuff yet
oh right i didnt get any achievements too
guess ill have to do the ST ending all over again someday
nvm i got the achievement for it i think
||WRFB|| pearl read
||the ancients listened to some banger music||
Bennie mixtape
How do I unlock ||the secret purple spiral thing ability idk what it's called but I think it allows you to teleport anywhere||
||the down special ability||
||WAUA|| pearl two electric boogaloo
||OK BUT THIS ONE IS CRAZY WHAT||
||I have a good quality image of the iterator||
This is so peak
The ending ||isnt the same as Saint but still hits those feels||
That said 1.5 shouldve been launch watcher
Anyone have any idea how the ||achievements ‘Images and sounds’ and ‘Mindless swimmers and floaters’ can be obtained?||
||Mindless swimmers and floaters sounds like meeting ST in Shattered Terrace but i didnt get that for whatever reason (maybe because i did the ending before the update launched)||
||It's getting Eaten by ripple spawn||
||Odd that there’s an achievement for that, thanks||
||I guess it's a very unique form of death||
how many endings in game now?
4 i think
4
How do I unlock the ||down + special ability||
||to get the weaver ending I'm just supposed to close every portal right? I'm close to being done but I'm js making sure||
yes
anyone remember how some people reading code used to wonder why is the ||Depths|| region in watcher?
in the Mar 28 build
Question to folks here. ||I managed to get seven ripple but the third and fourth throne rooms aren't opening for me, am I cooked chat or did they change the requirements to having to need spinning tops ending finished to awaken Prince?||
Huge spoilers in the picture!
Those are all the arena creatures and items! We even have all the missing items and creatures from before 1.5!
Just no idea on how to unlock them, I already had some of them unlocked but others not
I have a question! (Related to the two new endings) ||Since I had already played Ending C and Ending D in the beta version, I obtained four ending achievements after the official version was launched. I'm curious about one thing. Which one corresponds to ending C and which one corresponds to ending D, "The Choice" or "An understanding." ?||
||"An understanding" is a weaver quote, so I assume that's the weaver one||
||Also... still praying they give the achievements actual descriptions||
It should indeed be like this, hahaha
||Choice is D||
pretty sure they open when you ||infect more regions with rot||
But its not like either are mutually exclusive
||Me and my friend spent several hours figuring this out yesterday. Basically, go around the different regions freeing ripple spawn from their eggs, then they will go to outer rim. Then you free them there, and each one fills up a portion of the dial, then when the dial is full, go to wora_egg||
||is it possible to get the secret ability after getting the power to close portals||
oh fuck I forgot to check that
I meant to go again to see if it was still bugged
but I skipped the score after I'd spent an hour troubleshooting
I can confirm, the halo bug was a bug
No ||Mega drill crab|| 
interesting, what does the down warp do?
||passage, essentially||
neat
yall question
i unlocked ||the ability to warp where i want to||
||but even if i have the marker full, i cannot teleport, how can i do it again?||
Scavs are truly ubiquitous
i dont think i can really uh warp them anywhere else.
how did they manage to come with me
||It was in fact me needing to beat the Spinning Top ending actually. For some reason. The other two rooms instantly unlocked and the rest of his awakening dialogue began to trigger again.||
This means mobs can go to ancient urban
doing the spinning top ending last feels so funny
the ||thread-weaving rot-spreading ecosystem-disrupting little bald bear getting its last bit of character development by playing toys||
oops
YOU CAN DO THAT?
I think Moths should have their strength buffed. They can barely carry anything and just awkwardly try forever.
Including players and lizards, they just kinda... try, forever, and nothing goes anywhere.
final ending spoilers ||watching daszombes vod, when he gets to the rotted version of ST's room, the shortcut at the top is easily visable, but for me the shortcut was a hidden one||
still, i cant do that, what do i do?
why does this look so cool lowkey
i love this game
oh shoot i gotta do washer but mods 💔
i love touys...
||Void worms need enrichment too||
tf
guh
why am i ||HunterDead||
||void sea hates joy and whimsy it seems||
time to start ||pearling||
1.5 spoilers, I have a watcher theory/headcanon
||I think watcher has no sense of identity as a living being. Their family died when they were young and they were often alone exploring. Another member here mentioned how watcher is often assimilated by the higher beings they meet (spinning top, prince, the long boi) and that's probably because it gives them a sense of purpose or identity. The void sea ending in my interpretation could be watcher realizing their new "friends" won't give them a permanent identity so they ascend in the hopes of finding a better life in the void. Them becoming a void worm could be the result of them amassing echo and void weaver powers.||
Kinda a sad theory now that I think of it 😔
||placeholder or... any mods installed?|| (idk just spoiling incase)
||yeah no i agree w/ this…. i think watcher’s story is about change and growth and finally unrepressing yourself, realizing who you truly are, and growing up!! i think. all of their friends leaving represents how temporary a lot of things in life are. watcher had no will of their own, they were simply strung along by these other characters and followed in THEIR footsteps. everyone literally molds watcher into THEIR image, or at least has watcher help them without question; i think this is due to their family dying and how they did nothing to help. i think that survivors guilt sticks for a long time. “i shouldve done something, but that was a long time ago and i need to stop living in the past and let go” sort of narrative. to me. i think void worm watcher IS that final leap they needed to take to truly come to terms with their trauma and make a life for THEMSELF. because one simply cannot remain as another persons shadow. you need to eventually grow up and make a path for your own because one day there wont be someone to tell you what to do!!||
only thing i have enabled is watcher
or could be a bug
actually maybe could be a bug
Watcher becoming the most traumatized scug since arti
YEAH.
I do appreciate ur input tho :0
,,,btw ||do you guys think Bell of Gesture is the Gold Pearl creator|| (PEARLs)
||with all the childhood themes i think. watcher is afraid to grow up. void weaver forces them to take that leap because watcher is too afraid to face the real world and accept who they really are. spinning top was another child who could relate to watcher, prince is someone who had watcher passively follow their ideology without question. void weaver tells you to “consider”. not “do this, do that, or simply follow if you want”. Consider. An Understanding. the forced teleportation in the ending sequence to me is weaver showing watcher parts of their past and allowing them to find closure, esp with their friends and birthplace… watcher becoming the worm is indicative of them finding this closure. and accepting everything. they are finally no longer a simple observer. they made a choice for themself because other people helped guide them along. something something its okay to ask for help . lalala||
im so normal about this goddamn slugcat bro
ALSO EHEHE TY…. i have many many thoughts on the metaphors in this campaign…..
||I truly think the reason watcher helped spinning top is because they saw themselves in her||
YEAH!
||i think watchers dreams are them sympathizing with the other characters. and putting themself in their shoes. trying to understand and rationalize. Watcher is inherently a kind soul, they were just afraid initially||
||I also headcanon that spinning top and watcher both reunite in the void sea after ascension||
AAWHWHJH
||this is so true for the rot and sp dream||
||the spinning top dream is probably one of spinning tops memories but with scugs||
||with the weaver dream i think thats watcher understanding that the world decays and changes over time…… the acceptance that nothing will be stagnant forever and you need to accept that sometimes, things won’t be familiar. and thats okay||
||i genuinely believe prince represents this refusal to move on. metaphorically afraid of change. the weaver’s desire for change and order is the opposing will prince talks about in my opinion! neither are inherently bad mindsets, theyre both born out of fear. at least in personal experience with change and knowing Things Will get better but also Its So Scary……. and watcher decides for themself if thats a good thing||
@desert trail another one
||prince makes me giggle because i know why hes rotting everything but it also seems childlike. like in a "i want everyone to be together and happy" in a more literal way||
YEAH.
If there's a prince, then there's a king 
||I am kind of no longer a believer in the Weaver being directly responsible for Prince's demise, but I could see them as the opposing force||
||you know, i appreciate how prince is still happy for watcher even if you choose to abandon the plan and begin actively working against them||
||prince doesn’t understand. they think theyre doing a good thing and they don’t Understand why something opposes them. its fucked up to me. spinning top is a literal child, prince is timeless yet childlike, watcher is likely an adult who’s still living mentally as a pup…. and void weaver is the only real mature individual who makes the push for acceptance||
||I don't think the weaver and prince even know of each other's existence, they just see the influence of one another||
thats how i interpreted it personally! ^_^
||yeah, weaver knows about the rot but they probably dont know it has a Guy behind it||
I think each character represents a part of watcher and er. watcher healing from that
||yeah i dont think weaver directly paralyzed prince. i think its just one’s power outdoing the other and they arent even aware the other individual exists. consequences of meddling with the cycle i think||
||Honeslt Prince final dialogue (during the fourth ending) feels far more mature than the end. Or at least he gives off that tired vibe, his great work is gone, and he's left to look at the view||
||weaver and prince Yuri when/j||
||Despite you bringing the end of his great work, he still considers a friend||
||i dont think prince getting killed has anything to do with weaver honestly. imo the flowers would have happened regardless of weaver's existence. weaver existing is probably the only way prince could survive what they were trying to do||
He became a king
Through Spinning top watcher heals by indulging (?) in the childhood they never really had. prince touches more on watcher's loneliness, like 50% of prince's dialouge is their joy in companionship!!!
LMAO <- guy whos thought abt it for the funny
||Yet his kingdom is gone... a king of nothing||
thats also a fair perspective!!! i like that idea too :3
||Weaver's the only mature adult in this situation JELP||
||also are we not gonna talk abt how prince was very likely an iterator? I think that's freaky||
||My personal favourite theory is that Prince got a karmic sickness similar to Hunter (hence parallels with the same distortion effect playing during both Hunter's last cycle and during the karma flowers trying and failing to grow during Prince) as well as the whole karma flowers growing thing||
this goddamn image but its ||weaver with the other three||
||prince mentions pretty early on how they're distinctly not an iterator. they're similar, yes, but they are Something New||
I LIKE THAT A LOT……
had some thoughts on THAT Ending. ||i do think it actually happened but the Themes||
yay!!!
||they were an iterator that probably got their genome fucked up by rot||
this update is so peak.
||My opinion is still that they are the result of the sentient eot consuming iterators and mimicking them||
||Rather than him actually being a iteratoe||
I like this theory
||nnno..? we literally see them get born and they're inside a starcatcher (not iterator). they're almost definitely not an iterator||
Show us them iteratoes pebbsi
||This does kind of imply that the mark of communication is some kind of psychic thing, considering Prince seems to lack the machinery of iterators, which honestly isn't even that outlandish||
||… that could also contribute to the themes of not finding your own identity, esp when youre so immature and childlike…,,, influenced by the world around you and being unable to make your own identity||
oh yea another one for sure
so weird
Mark of communication: teaches you new language with my mind
BRAIN BLAST
||I think that's how the iterator became prince. He was probably at the brink of death in a rot infested can but chose to accept the rot so it consumed him and he was put in the huge rot cocoon to be reborn as prince||
Caterpillar to butterfly type shit
||ok but prince isnt in an iterator. they're in a starcatcher. a completely different structure that is fully hollow inside||
||that's true hmmm||
I still think the sentient rot just ate a ton of iterators and the Prince is the culmination of the massive feast
Ate all that juicy brain stuff
prince definitely contains a lot of iterator, but i dont think they actually originated from a single one
yea
||plus personally i think its more interesting if the rot simply evolved after infesting so many iterators that it gained a will of its own. like how prince, before hatching, goes on about “against… us? but now… I? a SELF…. and an OTHER.”||
||plus now i just look at the daddy long legs and go “oh my gawd. you become my favorite character in the hit dlc The Watcher” LOL it makes me fear them ingame slightly less||
||I do love the new Prince dialogue when you meet him during the weaver route||
||its so interesting. and also mildly funny. like calm down girl||
||And so we have arrived at the endgame. We have each played our hands, and it is for fate to decide. For my part, I have so enjoyed our journey together. From nothing... to gods. Think of me well. My dear friend.||
||from nothing to gods!!||
||He acknowledges that you are playing different hands, yet is still so happy for you||
||does going to daemon and touching the warp sickness spot give you full spiral as long as you can avoid getting sucked in or did i have full spiral regardless||
||Is it possible to get the spiral|| after getting 4th ending?
yes
How do I get to outer rim?
daemon
||how do i find all the ripple eggs in outer rim||
||its in a specific area||
......... where
||in the city area, not out to the desert or too far to the right||
So I need to find a structure or do you mean that is were the eggs are?
||its not a specific structure, just over a large area in the middle||
Time to get a map
||i can send a screenshot of the rooms you should be looking in||
Please
||anywhere labelled city||
||this is an old map tho, so some rooms may be missing or added||
np :3
How do I tell when I'm done
I'm noticing that there are individual region connections to daemon ||I hope that isn't how u get the 4th ending ||
||youll know||
So, this is basically a ||ripple portal|| but ||karma?|| (Idk, but this is smth that may be relevant to the lore/endings)
||are coral caves and torrential rainways not connected anymore? i need to weave them but i cant seem to uh find any connections ||
||coral torrential portal has been removed||
||if you are using a old save it will show portal connections that were removed||
OMG THAT WAS A CLOSE CALL, THAT SNAIL SAVED ME, I WAS TO BE SO COOKED (Region spoilers)
Give me it
dunno if i can post gifs here
you can
🔥
They should have thrown a millipede into a random test tube in cold storage
yes
Not to be a jerk, but it seems like the new creatures don't really interact with the ecosystem all that much 🙁
said theyll add "new creature interactions" and they added 2 amiright
||anglerfish interact with eels||
Oh wait, really?
||locusts interact with the new whales||
Also, we no longer spoiler things?
||guh||
||the peach lizards interact with snails and barnacles||
||and uhhh there's ripple spiders||
show me one room where theres an ||anglerfish|| and an eel lizard 
||i saw them twice, they bring you to key places of the map||
I know of that, I saw it in action, but didn't know of the other too
fetid glen
So I assume that ||new whales ||either block locusts from descending upon the ground, or alternatively, they will attack and eat them?
||want me to tell you?||
||y/n||
ye
||also moth+moth larva interacts with slugcat i guess||
||the locusts attack them instead of you||
||I think it's more the locusts are too busy attacking the whale to attack you||
What about the ||anglerfish|| + eel interaction?
i still havent found that region with the ||whales||
you figured it out!
also, can cold storage be infected with rot?
for the prince ending
Yes
im so happy
now to wait for the ||whales|| to come back
I can't be impatient
||so locusts just burrow into the ground||
lots of deaths in that one spot
hey chat what does it mean when i spawn into ||daemon|| and i can’t go anywhere. like i warped into the region and the camera doesn’t follow me when i jump infinitely off the edge. i know there are exits but am i not supposed to be able to use them yet? trying to warp just gets me the ||a presence already binds this place|| message so i’m fully stuck
is there a fix or do i just quit and reload
||I think your thing is glitched because you're supposed to spawn at the opposite side when you jump||
ah. yeah no i’m just trapped at the top of the tower lmao i’ll just reload and hope it fixes itself
reloading a few times didn’t do anything but turning on devtools and jimmying the camera around by hitting N seemed to get it unstuck, for future reference
||for weaver do i have to close rifts that lead into daemon?||
doesnt this mean theres a rift nearby? i cant find it for the life of me
no
its just something fetid glen does idk
Wierd fetid effects
huh
its saying i have one of the warps thats like a dotted line like this: - - - - - - - between fetid and outer rim
ive already looked through all of outer rim
and now all of fetid
maybe im just stupid
theres probably one from fetid, outer rim doesnt have any warps except daemon unless something changed this update
final ending spoilers ||just realized the effect used in the final depths run is the same glass shatter effect as what is used in the original music teasers||
nvm i found it it was in outer rim 😭
Getting watcher on my Nintendo switch, ts is gonna crash so much 💀
weaver spoilers. ???? what is happening
||you stitched the rift together||
||it isnt staying stitched though, do i need to hibernate?||
||it still shows it||
||what region was it connected to||
||outer rim -> fetid glen||
||oh i see, looks like its bugged||
||theres a bunch from outer rim that go to other regions that wont go away||
||i heard something like this was happening a lot||
||is there a fix? that you know of?||
||just checked my map, my outer rim warps seems to not have closed even though i remember closing 2 of them. doesnt seem like you can close them||
||huh. so like they play the animation but dont stay closed?||
||i have one from outer rim that did stay closed||
||seems like it||
||actualy i just checked seemingly only one of my warps in outer rim seems to have closed||
||maybe you have to enter it from that region to outer rim to close it?||
||they're one way warps, i cant go from the region it leads to into outer rim||
||i could?||
||where was it?||
||the warp for me wouldn't show up until i went to find it in outer rim||
||i always have been able to re enter outer rim using my own waprs||
||huh, a lot of the time for me it just pops me somewhere||
||ill try more later to see if i can figure out the issue||
||Hi, after having acquired the DOWN + SPECIAL thing to teleport, the screen seems to be bugged. Is it a well-known thing for the past days? I am only getting a black screen, if I press space the sphere with all the regions appear but it seems I cant do anything else. If I press jump, the icon of the map goes on bottom left corner of the screen but nothing happens, it says "Loading..." without doing anything (PC)||
||just realized both pipes here sends you to the same room how the hell did they do that||
||you can do that in vanilla iirc?||
You can?
im pretty sure
dont remember how though
it does mess up that room's connections though
so its a little bit buggy
does anyone else knows what happens when ||you do the voidspawn stuff?||
because I do! :D
||the outer tim thing or||
||yes!||
and I want to show it but the file is too big for without nitro so I am uploading it to yt ;)
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5x4IevSFRc|| I got it!
||it's like a godsent ability||
is there a way to spawn dialogue pearls with dev console cuz the one I put in a room has entirely vanished...
Guys, there's a portal to the left side of ||Daemon|| that refuses to open for me, but there's one to ||Outer Expanse|| that works to the right... Why is that?
I never want to go to OE ever again in my LIFE
the portal on the left is meant to be to shattered terrace. there seems to be a bug with the two daemon rifts specifically where they just dont work half the time
Huh... Gotcha, just bugged!
What region connects to one of the ||3|| new regions that has the ||brown whales||, by the by?
Really wanna see them...
||iirc there's 3 spots, one of them being near the water part of fetid glen||
Thank you!
daemon 3rd ending spoilers ||ah so thats how they did it||
daemon spoilers ||dev tool objects in daemon, the big arm things that moves around the threads are called daemon claws. the yellow things are called daemon eyes, and these are called daemon crowns||
|| guys I found a new thing on daemon (first time there after the update) and found a place where there are a lot of ball structures that goes up when I pass on them and I hear the voice of the prince and spinning top and some phrases appear, should I do smth there for now or perhaps a task? ||
it should give you a hint on what you have to do next
it says some sentences as || "the crown with thorns" and "latern in chances", I guess the first one is wake the prince the next one idk ||
||"the lantern in the dusk". wonder if there's anyone that fits that description||
ah I tried to translate the best lol
|| maybe spinning top? didnt found anything new and made the spinning top ending ||
(1.5 spoilers)
the portal on daemon keep sending me to shattered terrace I wanna go to outer rim 😭
are you going to the right portal
I only found one on the left
when I go to the right I found this thing I told
but didnt found one portal
there should be another pipe to the right
exploring minor error of mine
||is ascension the final ending or is it js part of the weaver ending?||
could someone brief me on everything that's new? i dont wish to wander around to try to figure out what's new while getting stuck in regions i've already been in
basically every region has something new
does anyone perchance know how much health a ||peach lizard|| has
||final ending, different from weaver||
i still would like a list if possible >->"
k is there anything notable i should still look for besides ||pearls|| now?
||if you havent gotten it theres a special quest to the right of outer rim||
a bunch of new creatures, I think 3 new regions, nearly every region has geometry reworks, some have major expansions, there are arena unlocks, achievements, lore stuff, jolly coop support, and all new bugs to run into
(they aren't that bad though... usually)
wait, data pearls? there's someone to read them?
final ending spoilers ||does depths use a slightly modified else 7 soundtrack||
||i dont think so..? the farthest right ive been is where the watcher unlock is and the portal to i forgot where||
it definitely seemed like it
i wont say anything else unless u want to know where to get them read
yes
a room in ancient urban
oh, i have a save that's there
theres a pearl near where the room is
where could this go
ok guys, what do I do at this point, I don't think I can close those one way portals so what do I do?
||if you do a manual warp you will always be sent somewhere you can make prorgess||
Sorry to bother but I didn't know where to ask
I've had problems with constant duplication of spawns so I was wondering if this is a normal amount of creatures for ||Migration Path|| region
Theres barnacles and lizards absolutely everywhere
hm. that does appear to be more ||tower crabs|| than usual but there's already a lot of them so im not 100% sure
this is the normal creature density I believe
Thank you!!!
a lot of the creatures here spawn in groups
Yeah I just been pretty paranoid about it
||do i need to awaken the prince before i start the new content|| early progession question
no
okay thank you
guys I had awaken the prince and made the spinning top normal ending, what should I do new since game didnt gave much hints to where to go
a hint to nudge you in the right direction: ||pay attention to the rifts you create||
the new things I found || a new kind of warp that I didnt knew to interact and it disappeared forever and some colored pearls idk where to use ||
hmmm
ive been planning on at least unlocking ripplespace before i even think about trying to find new stuff
dotted connections dont work
specifically, outer rim ones
dont bother with the outer rim connections
i tried the same thing, any rift connected to outer rim does not cooperate
but, they are not needed
i believe its due to the fact that
they are player made
but permanent
most player made rifts close after a few cycles, the rim ones dont, so you arent expected to go and close them, but they show as permanent portals
its safe to just ignore any dotted lines, theyll either dissipate without you, or wont count
what are these ||golden feathers|| where do i go what do i do waht does it mean
i dont like wormgrass
go to the region
find your portal
youll know it when you see it
enter ripplespace
(need max ripple)
and follow.
im very confused on what i need to do now..
youll meet someone important
keep looking
Wait i need max ripple
what do i need to look for? more void spawn?
Ruhhh
if it helps narrow it down, ||everything related to this is fully contained in this region||
yes and no
Bloody hell i just did that all for bloody nothing
max ripple to see the guidelines that show you where he is
but you can like
stumble across him
he appears regardless of ripple
Across who???
nuh uh
Where
figure that out yourself
its probably better to get spinny ending before inspecting the golden feathers
as long as you dont sleep, he will stay
I checked a rift I made but nothing special I noticed
he dosent like it when you open rifts. if you ever want to see him again, just open another and leave the region? i think
Oh thats going to suck
maybe wake a cycle or two and see if anything happens
you need to hibernate, but i dont know if he will show up in the region
region you are in
if you keep making more you should notice something
ok I will sleep again
however, every warp opens two portals
so its actually very easy
just warp like 2-3 times
and sleep
and check the map
Fine
more warps is more chance to figure it out
Alright
hes not that hard to trigger
Ill go do spinning tops stuff
Then ill go deal with this guy then
just visit him enough he wakes up
Thank you
ah alright that makes sense, ||where do i have to go next? do i have to go to all of the regions and close the warps even if i havent been to the region at all?||
yes. random warps are better now though
||don't need karma flowers, and will spit you out only in regions with unclosed portals||
||oh thats nice so i dont need to gamble on which region itll take me too||
thank you!
is the third time I return to the rift I made and still nothing
besides seems it got a lil rot
GOD i missed ripple jumping
its so nice
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE JUMP IS FAIR NOW???????????? I MISS MY STUPID BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shoutout to that spider who dies 80% of the time you see them in this room
I have 5 different clips of it
why did i only gain the ability to see where spinny top is right when i get ripple 9
does it just depend on regions visited?
the markers appear on the map once you visit shattered for your first time
ah
yeah i just avoided this place
wait i forgot to bring a pearl
||for the device™||
ive been trying to see if its possible to|| cleanse a region|| with ||the power the weaver gives you||. has anyone done this yet? ||trying to find some spare straggler rooms because its still showing up as rotted||
||i tried to completely clense pillar grove and it seems like the rotted indicator didnt go away||
||ill check pillar again to see if any remaining rooms are still rotted||
||yeah, im fairly confident ive done the same and the indicator has remained. which is fair. i think if anything is tied to having it all cleaned up id break out dev tools because screw doing that legitimately lol||
ok I got what the rifts I make become with time
besides took longer than I expect
and man I saw things
once you have the new ending can you get the rot ending or should I have done that first
does anyone know when the dream with all the ||karma symbols in a ring || happens?
you can only progress it to the point where the prince wakes up
shoot
you would have to do another save to fully complete that ending
uuuuuuuuughhhhhhh
I'm not starting another save i'm just gonna continue a save from before 1,5
||the huh||
I was just messing around spawning stuff and I spawned floating ripple symbols, does anyone know when this happens?
yeah wtf is this
watcher 1.9 update
in the files
woah i dont think i have seen that at all
wait
could that be
the rift in the final ending
or is it just a generic portal do you think
yeah maybe there is a new ending lol
Sorry to bother you peeps, but I need a little bit of help. ||Does anyone know what is required to unlock/complete the prince pillar in daemon?||
that dream is called shattered terrace internally isn't it
ah okay
yep terrace


