#Watcher 1.5 Spoiler Thread
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Can anyone help me? ||I'm in the surface trying to get the weaver portal but after checking every portal they're all normal!||
wait was the ||millipede|| even planned to be an actual creature in the update?
I doubt it
i ended up with 2 portals in the same room in shattered and it is super buggy, only one portal shows opening but you can sometimes get into the second one and the animation freaks out
also ||I really like the diplocaulus lizards||, they're so silly.
What mods were able to be used by people who played beta? Does anyone know
I'm currently Tryna find out what's breaking mine
spoiler for the aquatic enemy
which one is that anyway
is that the uhm
boomerang head
yeah
oh ok
finally got every unlock (minus ancient urban and outer rim) without dev tools or warp menu đ
they're so cool dude oh mygodddd
i wish they were in rivulet or something lol
TRUE
I love how the anglerfish shows off its currently aggression level via its light
Does anyone know where the weaver spawns in the surface?|| Not the portal but the part at the end where he is visible. I say this because I had a bug where instead of going to the portal I just found him directly where he is at the end||
Okay if arena works watcher has to work too now right
purrhaps
I'm seeing If it will
Also are the weaver portals connected to worlds with more weavers?
minor achievments spoiler: ||there's an achievement to dying to the ripple spawn||
What decides the portal that the weaver uses?
i have a watcher 1.5 windchime question
||what do the golden feathers mean||
||is it the places where the (i assume to be) weaver spawns?||
something like that :3
thank you
i was conflicted on thinking if it was glitched and was actually for ||spinning top|| or for that ||guy||
but now i know
every region in my save has golden feathers since I left it on the prince ending idk wtf to do lol
Probably worth restarting to experience the new content authentically
okok question
if im on save 1 (my main completionist save) and i reset my watcher slot, will the spawns still be fucked up?
No no, that can happen actually
||especially with manual rift overusage||
should just go to save 2 to be safe?
Restarting will fix it
Spawns are set when you sleep in a new region for the first time
tank uu :3
Anyone having trouble with storing items in shelters? Anything i put in there will just disappear when i hibernate
these r the only mods i have on and its still not loading me in :')
wanna know if this isnt just a me thing
(Ending 4 hwavy spoilers) ||I wonder how long it will take for there to be headcanons/fanfictions that go with the idea of Watcher eventually becoming Jerry (the fan nickname for the void worm)||
At least a week or two is my guess
what the fuck why is there a ||Ripple Spider Thing||
||Follow it||
does anyone know what one of these is breaking it
or do i have to like unsubscribe from all my mods
it brought me to ||the cold storage portal that i just sealed||
||I was already guessing this months ago dw im already on this||
tf did this mean
||Yeah, the ripple spider job seems to be to guide you to portals after freeing a certain number of ripple spawn, but yeah, you already sealed it||
anyone got a clue on finding the yellow guy
i love ||using rifts to go to a new region and i end up going to the region|| "Game Over - Press Space to restart"
||something about regions with yellow feathers??||
yeah warping feels a lot more unsafe now
been spawnkilled a few times
stupid rot lizards instantly Killing me
I can't wait to become brainrotted enough to start pondposting again
i dont even know where to properly go now game, ive beaten the 2 endings pre watcher 1.5 let me EXPlore and try to find the new content
Rip
||ive been trying to the find the New Content Guy for the past hour and my only lead is that he perhaps spawns in locations where the echo was,,,, UNLES thats wrong IDK ||
Try manual warping more.
Need a clue?
a small hint please
ive been doing that a whole bunch
im not sure if im going the wrong way
Ripples are windows
+Follow the threads
(Ending 4) ||late reply, but you are doing the good work||
ripples are windows
follow the threads
thats all you need to find it
||GRINS <3 I clocked it so early too I was fucking screaming when I was proven right||
(could you by chance explain the ripples are windows thing a tiny bit more)
you know how ripplespawn turn gold when you use your ability near them
yes
Seeing them through a tinted window.
(Ending 4) ||Yeah, if you want my opinion on the Ending, I view it in a more neutral light than anything. Like simply fate||
ill try to see if i can use that information when ingame
thank you for the hints
||I see that too! I just want a happy ending for my favorite slugcat and thatâs why Iâm so slanted towards the good ending interp ha ha.|| 4th ending spoilers continue
one small question
do the feathers relate to this
Yes. Very.
thank you
||I wasnât originally convinced on watcher being Jerry even though I really wanted it to be but my non-rainworld friend hit me with this and now itâs my one true and only headcannon that i see of the watcher because this is such a really good spin on the intentions of its title that I just really really like it. Ofc this all moreso fanon that an actual canon-adjacent reading but the subversion is cool and im a fan of it.|| 4th ending spoilers
||itâs a bit funny and more fannon but ferryman watcher is an idea very dear to me||
For some reason I have no regions with the weaver but I used to? Can they disappear?
how lovely
Yes! That means your goal has changed :]
(Ending 4) ||Honestly, the Ending itself is mostly notable in my opinion for its implications for void Worms in general. Are more void Worms created this way or is watcher a very very special case?||
So I made it?
still pondering ||watcher void worm||
Still kinda not sold on that theory but it is interesting
What do I do then?
close the portals
But there are no weaver icons?
all of em
^
How do I do that?
guys how exactly do u get the new endings and are there multiple or just 1 im so confused chat
||YES! I do like how they still kept the void worms incredibly vague despite us seeing watcher become one|| 4th ending spoilers
Like I had a weaver mission, died and then it wasn't there anymore
Multiple
okok do i need to restart to get them?
Ending 4 ||My opinion on this topic is probably Watcher being a special case due to their encounter with the weaver||
It's best to restart because there'd a lot of new early game content
||void worms.. we barely know anything about them and it drives me insane.||
That, and an Echo. And a rot avatar
How do I close portals then? And is it normal to a once open weaver spot to disappear after dying?
ohhhh ok thanks
would u say the new endings are hard to get without looking at a guide or are they easy to figure out?
||Just teleport through them||
A lot of the new non-spoilery stuff is just like new creatures added to flesh out the existing ecosystem or new early game regions you will find quickly
I stumbled on them naturally, trying to complete Prince stuff
Theyâre pretty easy to figure out if you play around with your abilities a lot!!
will it mess anything up if i decide to spawn a pup in 
OHHH okay thanks chat im so excited
YOU SHOULD BE the new update is absolutely amazing, have fun itâs great!!
||i think void worms are in a similar case to echoes, but manifest differently. echoes are slightly attached the world, voidworms are more attached, both are stuck in some inbetween. the watcher becomes a void worm because after all dat watching they've probably become attached to the world||
IDK
voidworms are really hard to figure out
Ending 4 ||So yeah, I think that the majority of void Worms are just primordial entities who have always been there, with Watcher having ascended to "godhood" becoming one in a very very unique situation||
But I would assume there would be a recorded casing of that by benefactors? Unless new pearl lore
Benefectors didn't even believe echoes existed on a large scale
i dont think bennies would know. even the echoes were just urban legends to them
Like echoes were just ghost stories
Not really, they were "a horror story"
Yeah a urban legend
Not something people really believed in
Like there was a few people who were Like "hey. There's karma ghosts" and everyone else were like "...okay sure"
saint is at my doorstep with this question. saint helps people ascend. is karma two, which represents lust, possibly represents saint's love for the world and it manifesting through the ascension funnies. void worm also helps with ascension
maybe that why
Well, why then there weren't people who were Like "hey, there's ever scarier karma ghosts in the void"
Because how the hell would they know? Nobody can go look into the void sea
(WEAVER) i like this place
ok but the most logical answer i can think of is "voidworms are just naturally occuring void creatures that help the ascended reach the funny light and watcher is just funky because they have jaundice"
I did and it didn't close
I think it's bugged
my eyes
i think you might need to go to weaver one more time
There are no regions with the weaver at
Since you mentioned that you were going to but then you got sniped
Try creating a portal? might goad the weaver into shutting it down, which makes the golden portals
Create a job for it
By creating a portal?
Yep and wait a little
Ok
||I love the weavers design||
Spinning top gives you your initial ripple ability, ||Weaver gives you control over it and ability to sew rifts shut||, and Prince gives you diseased plague rat status
they so intended for weaver to be the last ending you do before the final
And gets absolutely shafted by said lore and narrative
Love it
Joking aside, I was expecting more Prince stuff
||Though weirdly, it is probably best to not do Prince due to his dialogue during the weaver route||
hey! prince allows you to understand pearls
Thank you Prince, love you Prince
Sorry to ||seal your food away from you||
I never did the prince ending on this save and yet it for some reason said I did, ||allowing me to get the fourth ending||
this was a poor choice
||The game only cares if you wake Prince up, not if you complete his ending||
still do not understand the purpose of that room
Ohhh I thought my game was bugged
its the watcher room
Aka you shatter ||all his hopes and dreams of unifying life anyway and the narrative does not care about him in the slightest||
1.5 spoiler
found ||a pearl in fetid glen, in the tree room||
||He takes it well and is quite humble about it||
Well, about his goals rather
the absolute goat
Iâve only read a couple pearls so far and Iâm already loving this new system
Heâs such a chill guy
||You purged his rot, you closed the paths, and yet... at the end, he still calls you a friend and gives you one last gift||
Best antagonist ever
||Maybe it is simply fate that the Prince will never get his true kingdom||
Has a morally evil plan but good intentions
Five Pebbles when he is in a popularity and friendship competition and is beat by a literal embodiment of cancer
Can't even blame him, man
He has intentions of an iterator, but urges of rot
||I love spinning top and prince and weaver so much I am so so glad the iterators are not as important in this dlc.||
(Weaver) ||Honestly, the void weaver is really cool, but it is held back by the fact its got zero character basically, it just yaps the ripple monologue to you||
alright tin foil hat theory
get ready y'all:
||wanna know what's more cool than the theory that we are a purposed organism created all along by the prince to spread the rot across the timelines? The newly funded 1.5 theory that ACTUALLY, that weaver guy that we see fixing the shit we create, that is US FROM THE FUTURE, and we got turned into a snake thing near the end that was AFTER the timelines got "fixed" by daemon or whatever, then we get sent BACK to fix the damage caused to the timelines by our past selves and give them the power to fix it so the loop goes on. And you know what's crazier? Both tin foil hat theories can coexist, the "you're a prince purposed organism" and "you are the weaver's past". Omg my brain hurts. This is a shitpost dont take it seriously but wouldnt it be crazy though.||
CONSIDER: it's cool
||But being a being beyond comprehension is kinda of its stick, so I shall let it pass being a non-character basically||
NOW: true
||I THINK there is some characterization you can gleam from it, that it fixes watcherâs slugcat-made mess but holds no ill will towards it and gives watcher the means to finish it, that it doesnât particularly care about the prince or its fate and only seems to care about You, the watcher, and the choice you make to sew the threads. It is also just cool as hell though.||
homestuck
Hold on I doodled the watcher cast playing uno
lets have a home stuck
homestuck
woops
Spoilers bc weaver is there maybe Iâll refine it and post it to the gallery later /silly
anyway the meme with the crazy guy pointing at a whiteboard full of dots
Weaver you can see watcherâs cards youâre a fucking cheat
||Yeah, it defiently has character, but it does feel like a far less defined personalty, which is a good thing I think since it is a eldritch being looking thing||
||its kill or be killed||
this is so cute. I love imagining all of the fellows in watcher dlc as buddies so cuteeee eekkk
||Remember, weaver has its eyes closed all the time till the ending, it totally can't see, trust me||
I plan on making more watcher cast art to cope with the fact aside from watcher none of them really meet eachother
It makes sense it just makes me a bit sad
they should all play mario kart together i think
"Hey, you like kinda are closing the paths... uh can you stop that? I need my kingdom to spread"
"CONSIDER"
"...Oh sorry, golden snake guy! Continue with what your doing"
||ascended|| watcher included
I just imagine the other characters constantly being like "wtf are you talking about" as weaver yaps in its cryptic way
imagine playing mario kart and a void worm version of you shows up
TRUTH NUKE I always appreciate a good out there theory I think that was what my ||watcher void worm theory|| (4th ending) was like before it happened
- iterator knowledge
- downpour lore
thats not downpour
it isnt ? looks like that one arti room
this is a vanilla room
heh, the benefactors knew a bit more about the Cycle than most give them credit for
oguhh i honestly do not have the willpower to discuss rain world celestial spheres thats a whole new can of worms
this is pretty much the watcher map, which|| in of itself is the layout of the world, seen in the daemon cutscene|| (ENDING 4)
I weavea the ripple
weaving that ripple
need help for a friend, they got the first ending and now see the ||feathers|| around the regions. However they dont see the ||golden portal|| icons in the specific region and there isnt the ||yellow dotted connections|| from the ||feather|| region. Has anyone else had this issue?
Ending 4 ||I do wonder what becomes of Prince... are they just left to spend eternity on the worlds edge... at least they have a lovely view if that's the case||
||the yellow connections happen at a later part of the quest, they're not supposed to be visible yet. also the golden portals iirc only show up on the map once you go to them||
ive never seen the gold scavs in outer rim before the update but now they're everywhere in the city
what happened
hmm alright guess ill tell them to explore the regions fully
they spawned in the city before the update, i think its mostly just up to luck whether or not you meet them
They were always there! I guess you were unlucky?
Watcher 1.5 funny moment clip dump! ||https://youtu.be/wOGwmOzSfNE||
This video contains the following:
- new watcher creatures
- new watcher mechanics
- visuals effects related to new watcher content and endings
This video does not contain the following: - content from the story or any endings directly
- creatures having self preservation
this video contains the following:
- new watcher creatures
- new watcher mechanics
- visuals effects related to new watcher content and endings
this video does not contain the following: - content from the story or any endings directly
- creatures having self preservation
also weird cus that means i somehow progressed the quest very early on before i even had max ripple
@limber solstice honestly I have a question and I feel you are the perfect person of expertise for it. What's your opinion on the weird non-rotted brain tree looking things in pillar Grove? Idk if they have a proper name that's been discovered yet
how many unlocks does shattered terrace have?
It's funny, in hindsight, how iterators look like coiled up void worms
Ouroboros so coiled up in a spiral, the head ended up in it's guts
Made-up image of god-like entity, shackled in an image of it's prison so it suffers for the world
lol
i think its also funny that in hindsight iterators are kinda just useless..(?)
Built to a make a solution for everything else
Destroys wildlife because of this
yeahh man i wonder what slurping up ten gallons of water per minute does to an ecosystem
Don't woooorry, the wildlife will cycle back, surely
So their suffering doesn't matter
This is absolutely solid logic, believe me
in fairness, if they did discover a solution the state of the wildlife would not make it harder to deliver, and any pain caused would be far outweighed by the benefits of ascension
of course that's a big if, seeing as they did not discover a solution
No cost too great stuff
do these other guys even comprehend ascension . also im still kind of confused on what happens after an iterator discovers the solution
||you can stand in rot when weavered||
Is there a fifth ending (just wondering)
there is some funny side quest
YESSSSSSS HELL YES
So is everybody else, including literal supercomputers
not that im aware of
rot food immunity
Not that it needs one
Ending 3 and 4 are⌠amazing
WAIT CAN YOU ENTER LOWER THRONE ROOM?
everybody else like..? all of the creaturelings know about the cycle ?
The lowest one
bit confused
so basically, if the solution goes into effect properly then all of reality would have to cease to be part of the cycle. ideally this is by global ascension, but it could theoretically be done another way
They know, but can they comprehend is another question
after getting the ||spiral||
||Jaundice is the main weakness of cancer||
yeah it is different
mmm
Time to be a morally grey iterator and slurp up ten billion gallons of water
given that most people here cant comprehend it fully, i doubt a random sewer rat could
or something Idk ims so tired
I understand why they are doing it but whenever i think of iterators i think of genAi and i dont like that
||i think weavers def the most "animal" of the characters we got||
What if sewer rat was an empath
||he's just a being doing its job, much alike the void worms or void spawn||
well then things get a bit more CONSIDERy
||what do i do when i get the yellow dotted lines on the world map, ive warping around regions for awhile but nothing seems to be happening||
do only ||outer rim ripplespawn count for spiral||
all of these are just theoreticals . like. do we have any concrete evidence that there are empath sluggers out there
||lines connecting two regions or lines around the border of a region?||
||for the initial quest, yes. recharging can be done with any ripplespawn||
||lines connecting two regions, and when i go into a region sometimes the entrence i went in is 'pulled over' with yellow threads||
||They should make "iterator simulator" where you iterate /j||
||ah, that means you've sealed a rift (and the lines represent sealed connections). go do more of that||
All I'll say is that the endings would be way less impactful if all Watcher was thinking is "Ah! that Rot is Considerably Scary!" "Ah! that Echo is Considerably Childish!" "Ah! that Worm is Considerably Consider!"
thats just #watcher-lore
||do i need to do all of the rifts for something to happen||
||i believe you only need to do half (john weaver closes the other half) but yeah you need to close a lot of rifts||
||oke thank chu
||
TRUTH NUKE
I'm still an avid pond theory believer, now more then ever
Ahhh I canât do this this is so scary!!!!!!
My pondposting shall continue
rats are still tasty
sure they always were
anyone know how exactly to trigger this state?
||the halo has appeared a few times, but never consistently for me||
Changed my life, watered my crops, build my home
Revolutionary
||it appears when you're in a room with rot infection iirc||
oh!
||its whenever you interact with rot||
||if you eat a rot fruit, get touched by proto-rot||
yeah
happy for you
i gotta download now that im back home
You un-fuck up the fuck ups
perhaps spoiler that? (and the above message)
note : i did get ending D
sucks i wont be able to do my ||vanilla pearl readings|| today, will have to wait until tomorrow
also i assume
during ending D
||what happens if i just try to leave the depths by going back up?||
||i was gonna try and do something silly when it took me to outskirts and try to get to pebbles, but i got dragged out forcefully||
||you start in the big pit room, you wouldnt be able to get out unless you somehow brought a spear from somewhere||
||I'm pretty sure it's impossible to leave||
||Your fate is already sealed||
||if you do it with cheats though i imagine nothing happens||
||so by the time you initiate the hopping sequence in daemon there's nothing to be done?||
||not that you could do in a normal playthrough, no||
are my spawns bugged or are there just not supposed to be any boomerang-head-lizards in here
i'm pretty interested to see what happens in my main save
||cause prince appeared, and in that save i got ending B||
Also if you dev tools out ||subterr is like completely empty aside from bat flies and guardians||
||Prince always appears no matter what||
||I got the mushrooms unlock which I apparently never got from exploring the empty subterr. But like itâs nothing special up there/silly||
||Even if he got flowered, he appears for the fourth ending||
||Can't you climb up as long as there are walls with max karma floating.||
||Even if you can, I feel the game would just block you||
On a different note. Question about pearls. ||How do you read them after getting the mark?||
if there's no intended content up there, then might as well just leave it
i heard somewhere that they were planning on adding five pebbles and moon
did that ever come true
Yeah I think that was said in the stream, I am not sure. Considering no oneâs found it yet I doubt it
twas merely a joke. a jest, even.

i don't see any reason for moon or pebbles to be significant to watcher's campaign in any way past unfortunate evolution
Anyway, we already have Pebbles... or at least some rendition of his calcified corpse
I love Moon so much but after Spearmaster writing I donât want to see her being written ever again (joking)
also am taking a break rn from watcher after ending D, but
||do you keep the mark of communication when you reopen the save?|| (ending D)
Yep!!
JEPIII
yes
Have fun with it btw the dialogue is sick
||it's probably used for the pearl reader? there was one pearl that was two benefactors or at least a benefactor and an iterator speaking. it probably would give captions to that||
anywho
can't wait for everyone's watcher interpretations in their au to go off the deep end

I was already there â¤ď¸
trying to consolidate both saint and watcher sounds like a nightmare
Seeing how intended this is gives so many interesting implications
||prince seems chill i think i'd enjoy a cold sprite with them||
YES! I do wonder what it could mean but I think Iâm gonna replay watcher in light of the update being officially out and chew on it a bit
I think watcher is just cool as fuck
So very true
i need an image of prince on a lawnmower with some apple juice
they're just mowing the rot
||I got pearl duplicates so I do kinda wonder if you place a watcher pearl in those vanilla parts of end D if you could access them on Surv or monk but also the world state of those vanilla regions is actually just the rot regions. So ehhh|| 4th ending spoilers
From my Prince daily blog I had it working a desk job hold on
lol???
I can absolutely picture Prince in a dad vacation shirt with a landmower in my brain
FOUND IT
I gotta bring this blog back but moving side blogs to new accounts is a slogggg
Livin' the dream
im proud of my son
what are the new lizards
||peach lizards !!! Peach lizards!!!!|| new creature spoilers
||I wish having lizard friends in watcher was more practical Iâd love to have a group of peach lizards||same spoilers as prior
nah a scav just really wanted to bury that lantern in the ceiling
thats just a stick đ
Well I think itâs placed awesomely
where would be the best place for suggestions, just the bug report link?
(as in issues that are not necessarily bugs but were annoying in my playthrough)
I listed them here if you want to read through them #1419863420286664744 message but is there somewhere better for stuff like this
I DIDNT EVEN PROCESS THIS yes itâs having so fun living a dead end job in it <3 god bless rainmerica
(oh and add onto it ||when using the daemon to outer rim rift this happens||)
your slugcat has been too much time in fetid glen and now its allucinating
ctf without the wiggling
I got so lucky to not fall here actually looking at it again 
Hey, if anybody who knows (so I guess the off chance a dev is listening) can answer, will the achievements get proper descriptions at some point? 
so guys is downpour cannon yet /j
Heyy I've made a lot of progress since yesterday on the collection index, it's a lot of work manually researching and correlating all the data but I'm getting along.
||I think I've got all the pearls now, only the audio samples are missing but the pearls are there. I'm also still working on categorizing all the "misc" (random) projections that you get when you insert a non-watcher pearl.||
||For example, here's a cool projection about the construction of a new iterator: https://yanwittmann.github.io/rw-collection-index/?item=WAUA&transcriber=PearlReader||
nope downpour is actually trebuchet
only gourmand
man if only there was a convenient symbol to indicate something specific being pointed out
the nefarious arrow:
I wonder if millipedes still existe
And so we have arrived at the endgame
We have played our hands well (even though I have none)
You have grown... And you have become a janitor
For my part I have become an office employee
How fantastic our fates!
How wondrous you are, to me
Alpha and Omega
you misspelt Consdier btw
now i get why passages are disabled Lol
1.5 ending stuff, wow this grind is brutal
it's not that bad, at least you don't do all of them yourself
truth
and it's a good time to get arena unlocks or just explore
there's only 1 region I disliked exploring, and it's not a geometry issue it's a creature issue (I used to like you salination
)
anglerfish my loathed
reminded me of old eels
The anglers seem a bit more forgiving than expected, in they take a while to actually become hostile unless you just jump into them
Last salination fan killed live
i dont think i had died a single time in my playthrough until salination
and then i tallied 10
example of why you shouldn't put large creatures in a region about going through small tunnels
i disliked fetid glen and its mushroom lizards enough before the anglers came in
Also am I crazy or is rhe anhlers lure straight up just a actual light bulb
suspiciously large scav lantern
Something was ought to replace barnacle's job
It looks like it's attached to one of those metal arm things that the unlocks are connected to
true, after they got their natural predator the world needed a new tunnel blocker
off topic.. is the tail a cosmetic? i havent played the update yet
Its some lore stuff
it's related to progression
ohhh ok
GO, GO PLAY!
3rd ending spoilers ||theory on what the threads are, every creature has a threads with that thread being basicly their soul. with the daemon arms moving around these threads between strands when ever something dies or sleeps. when something enters the void sea their body is destroyed but their thread ascends. void beings like weavers and void worms are also able to manipulate these strands, with the void worm literaly ripping the strand out of your body to pull you to the egg, and void weavers using strands to seal of rifts||
jaundice tumors
is the new ending mutually exclusive with the prince ending or can you get the prince ending first and then do the new one?
prince ending can be gained first, but starting the quest to the new ending will lock you out of prince ending
alr cool
||you have to progress the rot ending to the point where you open the 4 permanent rifts in order to meet the conditions for one of the endings, but you can save that for last if you don't want to infect much||
||you dont have to actually open the rifts, you just have to wake prince up||
probably doesn't need to be spoilered but no harm in doing so
If you are willing to miss out the Prince ending, he will have new dialogue during the weaver route
||I had an awake prince and I couldn't get the ending before I opened the 4th rift||
||you sure? i got it without opening more than 2 rifts||
||dang weaver must have been working overtime there||
i feel like im in the depths there is so much visual distortion
(Weaver) I spat this sketch up very quickly, I had to do it
||"we have prince at home"||
||prince at home:||
Literally what is migration path meant to be it's a bit boring
(how many times can I post the same image and it still be funny)
It's a path where things... Well migrate
it gets more interesting at the halfway point
have you been to the right side?
is the uhhh
new music out anywhere]
or is there any conformation when its releasing??
how do you enter migration path
aether ridge, badlands, and I believe it was heat ducts?
I got there from ar
started my new save file, any recommendations to getting the new endings or do they come easily ?
try on your own for a bit
Forgot to reply but I made it to the Badlands connection and that's it
It's technically not a ridgeling but it defiently has a bit of ridgeling dna
if you can't figure anything out after like 5-10 hours and have explored the new content already, I have a hint for you:
||remember what rifts you create||
(you can find this message again in the discord inbox if you want it later)
or just ping me and I can give more hints
I went for like 8 hours without ||creating any manual rifts|| so it took me forever to figure out how to do stuff with the new endings
||is anyone getting stuck on a black screen after getting the special button and down arrow ability? nothing is happening, i've tried twice||
Fern 
Alright, thanks!
the devs names them Greeble though I believe, their name on scavcord is Fern
greeble
greeble
greetings watcher chat! does anyone know if i can see all the new stuff and get the new endings on an old save file? i got the ST ending but not prince on that file and i dont want to lock myself out of stuff accidentally
you're good, saves carry over
yippe
you wont see the new creatures though
there is new content in almost every region, I recommend restarting. Stuff like new creatures in already loaded regions won't appear if you continue
though map progress is messed up due to new stuff, so beware
though if you continue you won't get locked out of anything
one new creature only appears in regions that already existed so that would be the only new thing that won't appear
ooh i see! i did start a new save file and have made uh barely any progress in 3+ hours (made it to a whopping 6 regions and 2 ripple karma thing)
i wanted to see the new stuff but also my brain is made of swiss cheese so things like regions and creatures i probably wont immediately recognize if theyre new tbh
hence why i was wondering if it would be faster to use an old save and backtrack. but i dont wanna miss stuff so instead i will persevere on a new save
OUTER RIM IS SO PEAKKKK FAVORITE REGION IN WHOLE GAME ||THE NEW ROOMS ARE SO COOL||!!!!
does the wind chimes version get translated into the update version?
like will i lose my save?
You will not!
lets goo
It worked great for me
save will stay, steam auto unsubscribes from the beta too i think
Itâs just like picking up where you left off
It is indeed peak
||yeah spiral warping seems kind of broken, tried to go to shattered. Cold Storage||
And to add insult to injury, I tried accessing it from Daemon and the stupid portal wonât work 
||huh looks like im going to have to replay watcher again to get these?||
||i already gotten the ending achievments||
||do the new pearls and stuff appear in the collection?||
Game really doesnât want me to get to shattered
Still praying for actual descriptions for the achivements
man i really dont want to play watcher again just to get the achievments
yippee 10 more hours of finding spinning top
how does one start the journy to the 3rd and 4th ending?
||is The Choice true ending with An Understanding being weaver ending||
||have you seen the rifts you make turn yellow? thats important||
i have just donr the spinning top ending again
so lets say hypothetically idk what to do w this gold one
same with me
seems those might be gameplay ones
Have ||max ripple|| and ||follow the threads while invisible and max level||
im just waiting for some nerd to find out the requirements for each one
do i need to do the rot ending first?
been playing the watcher update for a while and im very clueless. without too many spoilers what should I be doing for one of the new endings...
thank fuck
||If you do the weaver route, I do advise you to visit Prince, since he will have some dialogue you won't see elsewhere||
||bad warps seems to just be that you have to badwarp, mindless swimmers and floaters might be related to ripplespace? blossom is probably meeting bloomed prince, images and sounds might be about the pearl reader? The weaver might be about meeting the weaver||
OHHHH i see what ppl mean by ||"follow the threads" now i thought there was gonna be a line leading from the portal or sumn but no it is just a bunch of web-like threads not an arrow|| or sumn lol. Ty!
Without spoilers does anyone know the mechanism for ||triggering the weaver ending? I weaved a lot of portals and idk what to do||
I can't upload anything, but I brought the Blue Pearl from Watcher Prologue (Before Rifts) to the pearl reader and it displayed some weird creatures. Might just be a misc advertisement?
It's not in the collection index yet.
||keeping weaving till something happens||
||do i do the weaver or the other one first?||
Nnnhhhhgh
my hint for you is ||pay attention to the portals you created||
unused creature spoilers ||yay millipedes are still in the game||
||The last one can only be done once Spinny and Weaver have been done, as well as Prince awakend||
||It's like a final culmination||
ahh
do yall think weâll get the collection for watcher
OH MT FOD YES

MILIPEDE
the lizard collection will add watcher lizards officially once spoiler genderal allows unspoilered watcher content

(I believe the collection menu should already have pearls)
Ancient urban pearl spoilers ||seemingly Bell of Gesture has been finished and running, and is placed near the city, so why is there no rain?||
||unless BoG isnt the iterator being shown constructucted||
It does not have the watcher ones
||Even in the AU pearl, the iterator is still under construction||
fun fact: the song another ending in downpour was foreshadowing watcher because its the same song that plays in ||ending B||
also fun fact: i made the first part up
Why does fractured gateways have sand grubs you physically cannot see
||theres a pearl that shows BoG speaking, which only could mean that the iterator has been complete||
||Yeah, but I don't think that pearl is in AU||
||So said pearl could have been made a long time after where AU takes place||
||im pretty sure it is?||
because they were smarter, they hid in places where other couldn't see them
||I mean, considering Bell seems to be one of the first iterators (assuming the iterator shown in the image is them), it's likely their wasn't enough for the rain to be much of a issue||
Like I'm pretty sure the lethal downpours we get in the events of rain world are the culmination of a ton of iterators being constructed
||the iterators in the background seems to be much farther then what you see on the wall so i guess that explains it||
The lethal what?
i was gonna send the "Say that again" gif but i can't and now i look like a fool 
I do like the casual reveal that the AU pearl gives of ||pyramidal iterators in fact being just a different shape of iterator||
Where did you get the images so clean ?
People have been hard at work sinking their teeth into the files
they're not exactly hidden 
I know how pearls work
||i just noticed that a lot of pyramids seems to be near a single spot||
||I do wonder if maybe the pyramid is a older model that fell out of fashion (I ain't the first to come up with this idea, but still, interesting)||
Anyone got tips so far for ||finding the new endings and regions??||
||All the new regions are relatively early game||
||Like, one of them connects to coral caves||
small hint ||pay attention to the rifts you create||
||Did they change or..?||
||it could also be an outer expanse type beat, like bell is built close to their city but it's far enough the rain isn't deadly it's just. Regular rain lol||
||I still don't really think a single iterator by itself would even be that deadly||
it will help you progress one of the new endings
||I like to thing that pyramid iterators implies that spherical iterator exist || 
Chat give me ||millipede|| renders
||Like again, the main big cloud layer is the result of a ridiculous amount of iterators being built||
||true||
Sick, thanks!
I need more
||in Ancient urban in that PEARL room there is a pearl reader, they seem to be music pearls (the one in turbulent pump was the one I got and it played music) also there is an achievement with it that implies the rest are also music ones|| spoilers for the pearls
||Oh did it randomize the rifts more? Was expecting most of the new stuff to be later.||
||The new regions mostly exist to flesh out the early game||
actualy i can get some achievements right now
Ohhh alright. ||Do you know anything about the new creatures? Like, are they in the new regions or other places?||
||Many are in old places, there'd a few variants of current ones to add in some flavour||
Did you ever find what was causing this problem btw? I'm having the same issue </3
Ok sick, thank you!
how can i permanently delete an object without it coming back due to key item tracking?
i want to delete a pearl i accidentaly duped
Nope, glad im not alone, what mods do u have enabled
||do items in ancient urban get destroyed if you leave them out, i found pearls that i left in the pearl room still there||
probably just key item tracking is enabled
Just all of the default ones (Remix, MSE, Watcher, etc) + Merge fix
do they not get deleted if i leave them in that room?
Same here, i wanted to reach out to see if it was a common bug atm
or do i need to take them to a shelter
Anything i store disappears next cycle
key item tracking respawns key items in the room they were lost when the room reloads
is there a way to remove those items permanently
like giving them to scavengers
or stuff
Game hates us and our swag :(
||coral > torrential is removed for me BUT is still on the map and i havent completed weaver route yet should i start a new save file,,, is this going to be a problem?||
turning off key item tracking
||wow just had the joy of seeing the new endings and i have to say im blown away, thank you to the team for this its exactly how i imagined the true watcher experience to be
genuinely whoever composed that track for the walk upto the depths pool and the swim afterwards thanks you, it physically brought tears to my eyes which hasnt happened since i beat hunter for the first time in 2018.||
1.5 endings related huge thank you to the dev team
if i do that do i need to place ||the pearls in ancient urban back to the shelter?||
aw
||ok through the ripple is gotten from going into ripple space and leaving?||
ok so he bloomed... now what
Is restarting the campaign after getting the 2nd pre 1.5 ending a good idea?
the I think turbulent pump pearl
||The new regions seem to be themed around the future, visually very interesting
||
People keep forgetting rain world has three save files
You're forgetting that arena unlocks are a thing
true
||imagine theres a secret path in the throne thats only accessable when you have weaver rot immunity||
@silver ravine ||do i go to regions with petals?||
||that exists!?||
||Indeed||
||yes but dont shelter, because weaver will leave||
kk
||the secret pathway or that you get rot immunity||
||second||
||when you get weaver powers, you have the power to uninfect rooms and proto rot wont eat you||
fez trees, i suppose they're like how the plate trees spread with the rot but have an uncorrupted version in signal spires
i've just gotten the true ending by the way
what an experience. what the fuck
||and speedrunners thought they might have a chance to get out of learning depths movement in watcher|| 
Does anyone know how many total pearls are in watcher
(Not including prologue ones)
||does stars have some kind of corilation with rot? because the station annex pearl talks about star energy. The pearl literaly says "And what Else may come with it" which feels like forshadowing||
how do you get the third or fourth ending? ||I have done some thing with a spider and rot prince said something about an endgame but there is still nothing in daemon for me ||
you can count them here #1419863420286664744 message
True ending is beautiful
a hint to nudge you in the right direction ||pay attention to the rifts you create||
Oh nooo I must not spoil myself yet
||I've connected the yellow rifts through like majority of my map||
oh I count 17 then
oh you are at that stage
just keep going, you are on the right track
yeah I have like no idea
last time when watcher dropped I collected all of the echoes thinking that's what you had to do but I wasted like 6 hours doing that so I'm probably just missing somerhing
||does deamon help with getting to the places with petals?||
been trying to get rot ending again, ran into a weird issue with consecutive portals in adjecent rooms either wont open or stay open forever. been needing to shelter in the region to reset the portals
@humble geyser you can lowkey just tell me whats there to do I'd really appreciate it cause I don't wanna keep doing the ||yellow portals || as it seems to not be doing anything :P
OKAY SO I JUST WANNA KNOW SOMETHING BEFORE SPOILING MYSELF, is this the last watcher update?

||once you seal every portal you will get the 3rd ending||
this is the final content update, though bug fixes should come
I sealed like 90% of them do you really gotta do ALL?
yes
okayyyy thank you a LOT
Oh okie thank you 
don't worry some seal while you are doing them, and when you warp you always get sent somewhere you can make progress
why do they have to be iterators
why can they not be signal spires
its in the name
alright I'll keep going, thanks
i think every superstructure being an iterator is just boring
I was kinda getting tired of it cause I thought I was missing something
Has anyone found an efficient way to read pearls
warp menu
Without mods
free time
âŚTrue
I just kinda wish you didnât have to go through that whole trek every time
Does making new portals undo progress for closing them?
Especially because due to being a ripplespace portal, you can only take one that is in your stomach
you can't make new permanent ones
Ok so I can still teleport?
once you unlock weaver you gain unlimted portals
and they are one way
like, once the weaver questline has started
4th encounter, i believe
This problem would be solved by simply allowing you to ||Spiral Warp|| to AU
what the fuck
At least after finishing Spinny quest
whyu am i here
||I mean, if theh were just signal towers... why the giant ass pyramid at the bottom?||
But mine did?
||We see them in a pearl alongside iterators, they look like iterators aside from shape (unlike Starcatcherz which are very visually distinct from iterators) and the name signal spire only really applies to the top of them||
||ok i spiral warped and i got pictures of the past and a path a perpose, im guessing one of them relates to making a dynamic warp and another relates to making a spiral warp||
maybe wrong save file...
wait what
Achievements
||ok i used a spiral warp to get to turbulant(which is rotted) and i got astray||
Iâm just going to mention the fact that ENDING 4 ||has a fully animated cutscene???? Like whaa???? And itâs so cool too||
i dont have any new watcher stuff live branch
||I honestly love that daemon cutscene||
||it looks so cool and it explains honestly a lot about what daemon is||
||The realignment of the orbs||
||Yeah itâs awesome and it lends into the whole celestial spheres thing||
At least I think it does
||It also helps kinda explain the weird timeline stuff with Watcher, such as the vanilla regions ending up being fixed and unrotted as we use the magic jaundice to purge the rot||
||ok i just need these achievments which seems pretty self explanitory||
I have quite a few more pearls to read
(Unfortunately that means a lot more of trekking through AU)
The second one is kinda silly
||looks like i have to reset my save to get these||
You could just use a separate save
||well yeah i still have save two to use||
help!
did you turn your dlcs back on?
wat.
watcher works
it just has none of the new content
its still 1.0
||actualy i could use my old save to get some achivements||
||Itâs unfortunate that you need to not do the weaver stuff to be able to bad warp. Yeah itâs incredibly useful to warp whenever you want, but now I canât visit the vanilla rotted regions||
I feel I've said this a 1000 times... but these achivement descriptions đ
WEAVER ENERGY IS PLAYING LFGGG 


||actually gives a lore reason for why ur manual portals disappear after 5 cycles thats so funny||
||Mindless swimmers and floaters.
âŚ
Yeah, thatâs right. Mindless swimmers and floaters.||
okay waht the fuck
so now i have watcher 1.5
i verified game files
i have weaver effects
but none of the new regions or rooms
||where do you find the spiral room?||
hes fucking gone
||Left of the fountain room||
how do you find them in the region
in outer rim?
ah okay thank you
||go to the golden rift and go into ripplespace, there should be threads that show you the way||
Itâs very close to the fountain, just one room away
Good luck!

||i have no golden portals.. i just went to the right region||
oh
my game wont register any of the new content
Iâve gotten all four endings yet Iâve only found ||3|| regions when someone mentioned there are ||4||. Anyone know which one this is?
the watcher weaver effects still show up
i got three achivements
but i am spawning in a random chimney room
and none of the new regions or rooms show up
||pretty sure theres only 3||
||if weaver is in the region then there should be a gold portal in that region||
yeah what the fuck
||Hm maybe the person meant the weaver space||
great... so i have to hunt for the portal...
despite literally getting the achievements
||yeah im pretty sure the person that said 4 was talking about the weaver room||
||Well regardless, itâs not like they needed any more regions lol||
is there a 5th ending that we have discovered or a branch?
can you send an image of what you're talking about
i feel like there isn't really potential for a fifth ending
im in throne now (i went on a whole sidequest lol)
nothing in the files it seems
not that i can fucking
check them
fourth ending seems pretty uh. definite
And AWESOME
what do i even do in this situation
||from god sausage to sausage god||
they said in the dev stream atleast 2 and that there are alternate paths somehow
||you should be able to find the weaver without the golden rift. but the golden rift is meant to show you the way||
yeah but thats annoying but what ever
||I think going into the room with the rift activates the start of the encounter..?||
||two more achievements left||
||it should be one that you've created prior||
guys the way to invoke the prince remains the same?
so if you remember where that was, you're good
ok
how do you get the 4th ending?
||time to speedrun ripple 9 to get the last achivements||
means that it's most definitely on your map
explore daemon a bit, what you need to know should be there
ahh found him
I did went up to the throne, returned, made those steps of going on new pipe and opening a warp, going back up and returning until the third warp, but the new pipe dont appear anymore
nomead
so once i find them i just go to the next region they are in?
Do we know what's up with the milipede? Is it a cut creature, a test devs forgot to delete, or just a joke secret?
seems like a joke
I assume it was something they accidentally created when working on the 4th ending
||Anyone got info on the new lizards?||
||The new lizard chomps on barnacles and has yellow lizard antenna||
||Sick, can these also be tamed?||
||Yeah||
Just coming back since getting both endings on original Watcher release, I'm a little confused what my goal should be to start with. ||I did find this slab in Outer Rim with a segmented spiral though, and more segments seemed to light up when I took a couple naps.||
Wonderful
Top ten biggest glow-ups: ||Blizzard||
||i must know, so that i can explore more||
||- eat barnacles and snails
- can dive, lurk, and breathe underwater
- can swim in sand
- are eaten by green lizards||
||Swim in sand?||
||they eat snails!?||
||also, i have a theory on the antennae||
||maybe theyy have those to store muscle||
||the same thing happens with a specific species of ants, leafcutter ants||
90% sure they were, didn't stay around for long though so could be mistaken
||i found weaver once and now there are no more petals||
||Swim in sand?????||
||leafcutter ants have heart shaped heads due to them being absurdly developed to cut down leafs, maybe peach lizards have them due to the same reason!||
BUG WARNING IN THE IMAGE
||Also can someone please tell me what in the world Weaver is, I keep hearing about it but I have no idea what it is?||
Theyâre like diplocaulus irl!
you'll know them when you see them
oh well nevermind
Also like that
Yeah I've seen them do that in the Rusted Wrecks
But ||swim in sand????||
||my theory was that they had those heads developed by muscle to tear down the barnacles and snails shells||
guys the way to invoke the prince is the same as before?
Man now skinks arenât unique anymore
This feels like a warning I think, I'll be on the lookout.
I tried to return to the portal back to the throne it sent me to a rotted vanilla region 
do lookout
I wish they had more rotten vanilla regions
yeah, those were amazing
||Anywhere in particular I need to be, or is this mostly later gameplay? If you know.||
THE BEST ONE IS INFECTED WASTES, CHANGE MY MIND
We should get more content!!!
depends on what endings you have already
also the ||diplocaulus|| in game is very autism and I love it
Oh my GOD that place killed me man. đ
rot behemots my beloved
Look at the autism creature
So it just varies?
no
I love him actually
why autism tho
in order to lookout for the ||weaver|| you need to hang around the ||ripples|| you create with the help of karma flowers
perhaps the ripples and threads will show you the way
i dislike that people asociate autism to being cute and being silly, im inside the spectrum and i dislike that, autism isn't cute at all, its hard to live with.
Fascinating, thanks for the info man.
ahhh... i have only used one portal i made
real
Holy fuck i feel the exact same way
Agreed
Yeah, this
Because goober
its hard to talk to people, sometimes you cant express what you want to say, or straight up being rejected by people because you're diferent.
My apologies if it makes you uncomfortable, I did not mean it that way
Weâre (probably) on the spectrum as well, undiagnosed, so we feel about it differently
yeah... social anxiety do be like that
Autism shouldn't be used as a badge or identity. Sometimes i like to call things autistic myself though, and it doesn't hurt anyone.
also, a ton of people nowadays just self diagnose autism to themselves because they're silly, i know that most people do that due to being in hard conditions, but they have gotten the original term forgotten
I associate autism with two different things
When I call a creature autism, Iâm referencing the autism creature
Autism 1.5 Windchime Thread
that thing
started everything
probably
Autistic ||lizards, sky whales, drill crabs, and anglerfish.||
Yes
Oh my god ||I need to see more of the anglerfish they look horrifyingly beautiful.||
Iâm so glad that we got a replacement for this guy (modded guy)
I need more scav variants
Never enough
NEVER ENOUGH
I would also love to see this actually.
WHAT A GOOBIE
(I am autistic) I personally don't have a problem with autism creature or the such, but I defiently understand why people are uncomfortable with it considering how much of a geninune issue infantilisation of autistic people is
I do enjoy the other creatures too
Scav wizards who can use colored peals like Pearlmaster scug
||Where can the new whale be found if anyone knows??||
||what happened to your peach lizard||
||one of the new regions||
Is that all the new ones or are there more
Wdym
||thereâs more||
||decayed version of verdant||
||I havenât even seen everything yet||
they are melting
||I canât explain because I havenât seen everything but this definitely isnât everything||
Yeah, personally, also trying to get diagnosis is very hard. Lot of people don't take it seriously it seems.
Discord ate quality
Wonderful, thank you. :D
Nooo đ
||peach lizard my beloved||
Weird name but ight
Itâs because theyâre from a mod originally
||Are there anymore new creature interactions? I think I saw the new one with the centipede and batfly someone posted earlier, curious if theres more.||
The what
So wait, ||peaches|| eat barnicles?
Show that interaction
||yup!||
Epilepsy Lizard
I donât think thatâs on purpose
Oh rip đ
before i start the dlc whats the weaver? abt to start
The red centi getting fucking swarmed with thousands of batfly(It trampled over their nest)
Youâll find out
(Also autistic) I miss when the tbh creature wasn't related to autism I find connecting it with autism is a bit stupid to me
This isn't new afaik. Baby centipedes just very rarely do this
Oh my GOD lol I need someone to make this real please
What even is the TBH creature
@spiral lagoon ||ok so i found weaver once, but no more regions have petals on the map. what now.||
Like what is TBH
Well damn lmao
To Be Honest (TBH)
Oh itâs just the acronym
||Do scavengers attack any of the new creatures also??||
@jolly solar|| how does one find the weaver. found him once but no other region has petals.||
I have no fucking clue
lol
Iâm just saying youâll find out in time
oh
I havenât even found him yet
Go to an area with feathers make a portal then fuck around for a while for him to close it
Then look for him
s||o i make a portal at the last place i saw him?||
wtf is this in the files its called looker
No where there's feathers in a region
just a joke image
lol
This but ||angler||
.... i have no more regins with those
Need someone to make this real
||i think you just have to make a portal anywhere and wait for weaver to close it||
How to infect most areas with rot with this easy trick
Yippee
Oh my god white lizards keep trying to ruin my run 
Feed all the lizards food
Just warped to FP as Watcher, normal dialogue sadly
need some guidance on how to progress/end ?? the weaver plotline i've ||found them several times and now all the feathers have disappeared from the map + at least two prince portals have been stitched up|| but now i'm so lost on what to do next........... ||none of the new daemon rooms seem to be doing anything and i did find a ripple spider in signal spires but couldn't tell where it was trying to lead me so i went to daemon and there's Still nothing here|| i'm pretty stumped at this point & tired of randomly warping hoping something will happen
||what is this fat, stupid, ugly, thing|| creature
||if you go into ripplespace, you might see more weaver strands. however instead of bringing you to the weaver, they lead to rifts. perhaps try going through one of them?||
Bring it to shelter, if you want
Alive
stab in face. consume.

