Watcher 1.5 Spoiler Thread

[modest root]

weaver energy

its in game

this is so peak

[modest root]

im INSTANTLY FUCKING DEAD

i hate this game

[jolly solar]

I fucked up

[modest root]

so much

[candid parrot]

Unless there’s more regions I haven’t found yet

[jolly solar]

[raw pasture]

ouch

[jolly solar]

im gonna pelt the devs with rocls

[smoky sandal]

rip
you needed to wait more

[jolly solar]

rocks

[raw pasture]

yeah its just 3 new ones, though several old ones have been massively overhauled

[smoky sandal]

WHERE ARE THE ANGLERS

THERE'S NO ANGLER

[jolly solar]

aether ridge is no longer my least favorite region

[golden forge]

||4.||

[modest root]

oh my god

its him

consider consider consider consider

[jolly solar]

||4???||

[clear hill]

i love the arg really was all new content which is insane

[modest root]

what do i do with the piss portal

[silver ravine]

theres 4 new regions?

[golden forge]

mhm

[smoky sandal]

||there's 5||

[jolly solar]

this shelter is entirely useless

[smoky sandal]

||secret ant region
you unlock it by eating a background ant||

[golden forge]

[raw pasture]

huh? i know ||migration zone, locust land (not real name), and pillar grove, but whats number 4?||

[clear hill]

wait theres 4 regions? i know of the 3 reasonable, is there a hidden 4th or smth

[candid parrot]

OOOO

[modest root]

whats the best way to spawn the weaver

do i just like

spam portals and pray

[raw pasture]

pretty much

[clear hill]

hold up ill let you look at my doc early for the locations LOL

[modest root]

im cheating

dw

im just warping to him

i do not care for the gameplay at this point

i watchered out when i played through it the first two times

[golden forge]

including the (dont unspoil if you dont wanna know) ||weaver one, which I count as a new one||

[clear hill]

i sent u a dm jackal

[silver ravine]

||pretty sure weaver is just daemon?||

[clear hill]

ohh fair

[formal drift]

bruhhh they moved the heat ducts echo to the end of thermal relay no wayyyy

[clear hill]

ikr i was like

WHERE ARE YOU

[raw pasture]

ok thats not a region. ||its just a single flat super cool looking room that you visit exactly twice||

[modest root]

||i cant believe the voice in the first fucking trailer is the weaver||

[golden forge]

||weaver sends you to deamon i think... I'm pretty sure it's differant||

[modest root]

||weaver was here all along||

||also why does he flashbang us||

[golden forge]

ikr

[modest root]

the weaver looks so sick though

[raw pasture]

unfortunately, once they've caught your scent invisibility cannot save you

[modest root]

||so regal, i didnt expect that at alllll||

[clear hill]

i wonder if ||the five pebbles voice similarities mean anything, because thats the first thing people noticed was the voice was like fp voice clips but really slow||

[silver ravine]

||in the files its just daemon||

[golden forge]

zamn... I guess I was incorrect

[silver ravine]

||it woudnt make any sence for a region to have a single room anyways||

[clear hill]

https://youtu.be/Nvgvd2XISOk?si=_FilfN9EoSX9n-BT&t=300 on this, this is the only clip i can find that actually has the sped up version

[jolly solar]

the whale abandoned me

[clear hill]

but you can see what i mean

... or hear it

[smoky sandal]

btw

is there an angler unlock?

[modest root]

wow the weaver is like

omnipresent

multiple regions at once

[jolly solar]

yes

[modest root]

guys got a hustle damn

[smoky sandal]

where

[modest root]

the weaver encounters are timed, right

like, if i dont visit him fast enough, he finishes closing the portal?

[jolly solar]

idk

[modest root]

is it cycle based?

[smoky sandal]

where's the unlock

👀

[modest root]

or does going through portals also do it

like if i just never sleep will the weaver stay put

[inland needle]

How do I read the new lore stuff?

[modest root]

i dont want to get weaver ending before spinning top

or prince

[inland needle]

If you ||sleep, it disappears||

[modest root]

||sick thanks||

[raw pasture]

||pretty sure sheltering in a region weaver is in doesnt do anything, you just can't shelter after finding the gold rift||

[smoky sandal]

how far are you in the game

[modest root]

i found the ||anglerfish||

[inland needle]

||3 weaver encounters, half-ish portals closed permanently, did not rot enough regions. Ascended spinning top||

[inland needle]

Epic creature holy ay shid

[modest root]

prince dosent need to ascend for the true ending right

[smoky sandal]

WHERE

[modest root]

salination

[smoky sandal]

try going above the workshop in ancient urban

[inland needle]

Salt region or turbulent pump

[smoky sandal]

going there instead

they told me there was anglerfish in fetid glen

[inland needle]

Hmmmmmmmmm.............

[smoky sandal]

i was lied to

[jolly solar]

I hate this game

[jolly solar]

there is one tho

I saw one

you just didnt explore enough

[smoky sandal]

go back

nvm

[smoky sandal]

i literally explored the whole underwater part

with eels

[short urchin]

ant, did you resume on your current save?

[smoky sandal]

yes

oh no....

dont tell me

[short urchin]

ok, so that's the problem with resuming on the current save

[smoky sandal]

😭

[short urchin]

no creatures get updated

[limber solstice]

there are more guaranteed spears in the room

[smoky sandal]

do i have to restart everything back to 0?

after all i went trough

[jolly solar]

Im gonna go get food

[smoky sandal]

is it really like that!?

[jolly solar]

in badlands

[smoky sandal]

.

[short urchin]

which at worst leads to some regions breaking, but best case scenario is creatures just don't update

[smoky sandal]

[short urchin]

there's something else you can do

[jolly solar]

you can use devtools and warp menu in a new save

[smoky sandal]

what can i do

tell me, brother

[modest root]

^^^

you just need to wake him up right

[clear hill]

yeah

[smoky sandal]

yes

[raw pasture]

correct

[short urchin]

I think this mod should still work
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3232143310&searchtext=fresh+spawns

[smoky sandal]

THANKS

[short urchin]

you should be able to use it to reset the spawns

[jaunty lake]

wait i need to wake the prince up?

[clear hill]

explode the spawns 💥

[smoky sandal]

does it save even if i die?

the only problem is rotted regions

[short urchin]

no, you'll have to not die

[smoky sandal]

what will happen to the rotted creatures

[short urchin]

rotted regions won't have their spawns reset, due to the way rotting is coded

[smoky sandal]

oh gosh

you saved me

[candid parrot]

Okay after playing a while I finally understand spiral warping || After the initial tutorial, ripple spawns will become much more common throughout the campaign. In your sleep screen you can now see your current amount collected as displayed by the spiral. Once you’ve filled the meter, watcher will glow brightly and then you have the ability to spiral warp again||

[smoky sandal]

so.

[silver ravine]

||if you fully unrot a region using weaver powers would that clasify that region as unrotted||

[jolly solar]

welp i gotta go now

[smoky sandal]

i need to use warp to restart every single region

got it

[smoky sandal]

cya

[jolly solar]

can't keep playing anymore

:(

[raw pasture]

sad

[split atlas]

really hope the bugfix patch releases alongside (or before) the main release because i've been sitting with a save file stuck at the end of ||Weaver portal closing quest|| since monday. like Yeah i guess i could've played with an all-new save but at this point i'd rather just wait for the fix

[clear hill]

i made a mod to help with that if you wanna try it real quick

its a bandaid fix of course

[jaunty lake]

question about progression im very early on ||i found a yellow echo creature in shattered terrace and cant find any others, am i just not looking hard enough or am i missing something||

[clear hill]

what did they look like exactly?

[split atlas]

ehhhh... i'd rather not risk having mod dependency quirks on the proper release. not sure

[clear hill]

just wanted to let you know its an option

[short urchin]

unfortunately it'll likely be a a couple days after release

[smoky sandal]

what does it do

[jaunty lake]

||kinda hard to tell because of how warped my vision was, but it was a very bright yellow and said the line from the trailer||

[clear hill]

it tells the game to shut up about broken warps for things you need to ||seal still so that you can achieve the ending conditions||

[split atlas]

ynow what i think i'll take you up on the mod offer

[clear hill]

ah yeah, youre pretty lucky and you can look for them more ||it is related to the new content after all|| if you need a hint just let us know

[raw pasture]

||after enough time rifts created by you turn golden. go into ripplespace and follow the threads nearby to find the weaver again||

[golden forge]

it fixed the issue for me. 10/10 would recommend

[clear hill]

#1419863420286664744 message check out my awesome mod post

[split atlas]

i am not waiting another 3 days to finish 1.5's main content, all of my friends will be done with it by then lol

[clear hill]

yknow id go crazy if i wasnt able to play for a day because i work tomorrow on the release date

im so happy for this beta, no matter how buggy it is

i need more rainworld lore to chew on

[golden forge]

real

[bleak cobalt]

Anyone know why the shattered terrace and outer rim portals stop working in daemon after a while

Is it a bug?

[clear hill]

yes, portals in general have been breaking a lot and its known

[modest root]

so wait

[bleak cobalt]

Ok, thank you

[modest root]

theres a warp requirement for an ending?

3 or 4?

[clear hill]

the one related to the warp entity

[modest root]

i see

is it as tedious as prince

[clear hill]

not really because you get immediate feedback

[raw pasture]

it does take a while though

[modest root]

okay

well

i have warp menu

so

shrug

[jolly solar]

Chat someone give me an image of the new whale that distracts locusts

[jolly solar]

Thx

I’d also like an image of the diplocaulus and the angler

[jolly solar]

Awesome thx

I think the anglerfish is mechanical in nature

It sounds mechanical as hell

[raw pasture]

the actual angler is pretty biological looking though. its probably a blend, like just about everything else in rw

[jolly solar]

its lure is definitely mechanical

And the jaws are probably too

Considering it sounds like a leviathan

[clear hill]

WATCHER 1.5 GUIDE AND CHANGES
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bWDmXoUUxu7u6Hs-ja3UBezDbf-psJFEanBOhXFkXAc/edit?usp=sharing
Hello, I've finished this general guide. Beware of small spoilers, I would not recommend reading if you want to go in completely blind!

If you need guidance on how to get to the new content, this is a great document to reference for now until the wiki updates.

[smoky sandal]

i clicked the button, it teels me next region load it will reset, what do i do now? do i warp with warp mod to other regions and do the same?

[clear hill]

[clear hill]

presumably, yes

whenever you reenter the region, it should override the spawns

[smoky sandal]

K

[gritty pagoda]

wheres spinning top in heat ducts?

[jolly solar]

I got hungry

She was tasty

[turbid onyx]

||angler ever so slightly looks like a sunfish||

[modest root]

@clear hill guide is a bit deceptive

||portals do not need to be in interesting rooms, just in the region||

||the portal will be linked to the weaver room via ripplespace "strings"||

[clear hill]

oh my

thats what i get for datamining the game LOL

[gritty pagoda]

ok found her is salination still found through heat ducts?

[clear hill]

WHAT WAS I FIGHTING (google docs links) FOOOOOOORRR

[devout laurel]

Wait so weaver ||closes half then after that you have to get every rift that is left?||

[split crag]

WTF

[silver ravine]

Millipede

[raw pasture]

||iirc every time you close a rift the void weaver closes another one||

[bleak cobalt]

does ||visiting the weaver enough times|| lock you out of ||waking the prince up|| if you haven't ||opened enough portals in outer rim|| before that point?

[split crag]

I was looking through the creature enums and found this abomination

[raw pasture]

||it does not stop you from waking prince up, but you are locked out of completing the prince ending||

[lucid oyster]

Don’t call him that

That’s not nice bro

[devout laurel]

should I still be following the ||ripplespace thread stuff||?

[raw pasture]

yes

[raw pasture]

it leads you to ||the nearest rift||

[lucid oyster]

Do they do anything

Or are they just like sticky

[silver ravine]

they crawl around

[lucid oyster]

Disgusting

[silver ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1419863420286664744/1420489352605339648/Silly_Milli_thing.gif

[lucid oyster]

Parasite

[clear hill]

i hate to ask, but i dont have perms to pin this so can this be pinned? or i guess i'll repost this if this thread becomes obsolete and then it can be pinned then

[silver ravine]

also for some reason their icon is a yellow square

[clear hill]

unfinished creeetures.... hartbreaking

[smoky sandal]

holy fuck

they're real

the angler

[silver ravine]

what the hell i was watching a millipede enter a shortcut and for somereason slowly every segment teleported to the shortcut before going through the pipe

[river rune]

Guys I have applied with sucess windchime version, so is just turn on in the remix the watcher and the beta is there will be there?

[silver ravine]

why even is it a yellow square

[lucid oyster]

Maybe it’s just gonna be like not evil centipedes

[silver ravine]

why not just have no icon

[clear hill]

did you make sure to uninstall the actual DLC?

i see you typing bro

[river rune]

I removed all the DLC

[clear hill]

then all should be good

[short urchin]

figured you'd get to it first so I stopped typing (also interesting color choice in the doc)

[clear hill]

thank you i love non white pages because google docs burns my eyes

[river rune]

it downloaded like 3GB of stuff

[short urchin]

I use a dark grey color with almost white text (I think I just color-picked the discord dark theme)

[river rune]

and yes on addictional content it is off

I just restarted the campaign

[clear hill]

i think i made the HR_Layers_Of_Reality room doc back when downpour first dropped in the same background color actually...

funny coincidence

[river rune]

I cant send images cuz I got hacked before and the hacker sent a lot of those spam things on servers

is there a way I can recover my power of sending images

[short urchin]

you should probably talk to a server staff instead of a random channel

maybe dm courier idk

[river rune]

yeah

just wanted to show the DLC content is turned off

[river rune]

the thing

[proud shoal]

So the final and true ending is ||the watcher becoming a voidworm|| does it have a proper name?

[silver ravine]

||dont think so||

[proud shoal]

Is it the ||final ending?||

[silver ravine]

||yes||

[raw pasture]

||nope theres actually a secret 6th ending where watcher meets sliver of straw||

[clear hill]

||wait whats the 5th ending!?|| /j

[proud shoal]

Think we know the ||void and the rot are polar opposites now and at the time kind of the same thing... Both are Ascension||

[kind kiln]

watcher very spoilers chat, should i do the new update tomorrow on a new save or continue from the one i got the toys ending on?

ive avoided spoiling myself on anything so far

[silver ravine]

recommended to do a new save

[clear hill]

i see it as (lore spoilers) ||the rot and void are two hands of the same thing that ascension represents, rot being oneness, and void being well devoid||

^^

[devout laurel]

my theory was correct rot is like physical and void is spiritual

[clear hill]

theres a lot of changed content, so a new playthrough would be like experiencing watcher for the first time again imo

[kind kiln]

gotcha

[raw pasture]

new save. there's some glitches with old saves and you'd miss any changes to creature spawns

[proud shoal]

||Unfortunate evolution means that they are simaler but the prince ending meaning they are opposed||

[kind kiln]

ill poof out of this chat now so im not tempted by the shiny grey boxes of spoiler

[devout laurel]

also is this ||purple stuff|| ever explained

[proud shoal]

We know the ||prince was being opposed by a greater force||

[raw pasture]

||dont think so. imo its like a rift but on a significantly larger scale||

[clear hill]

||which we now know as the weaver, the one stopping the rot from spreading to all realities||

[proud shoal]

Yup

Meaning ||the rot will eventually become like the void due to the unfortunate evolution... But they also are opposed the prince vs void weaver||

[clear hill]

||i actually see the rot worm as the natural course of a cyclical reality like that eventually falling apart at its fringes, the rot worm's existence is basically a sign of reality itself falling apart to the point it could manifest... as the void worms are the opposite, presumably existing because the desire for all things to become devoid has increased greatly with the benefactors influence-||

god i feel like im saying straight bullshit but thats how rainworld lore be

LOL

[proud shoal]

True lol well I think downpour and watcher are both canon

[clear hill]

hmmm i think they can coexist yeah, distant adjacent reality and all that

[proud shoal]

||watcher canonized downpour with the final ending||

[silver ravine]

i say no since artificer changes how karma works

[modest root]

I think it's easier to look at as three seperate timelines

[clear hill]

i feel like that was apparent to me in the 1.0 release, but thats just cuz i predicted a lot of the nature of the watcher before the new lore content

hehehaha

[modest root]

downpour is one timeline, watcher is another, and vanilla is another again

[clear hill]

wait i have a doodle i did after watcher dropped i need to look back on

[eternal timber]

ye

[clear hill]

i was genuiinely insane

[modest root]

vanilla would be where litterally nothing happens

the iterators eventually collapse, no fanfare

[turbid onyx]

||if its for the jungle section then not really, the concept of a lush jungle has been a thing since the base game and is literally in the watcher intro|| ending spoilers

[modest root]

things die, the cycle continues

[raw pasture]

||did it? sure watcher uses a lot of stuff from downpour but i dont think it necessarily makes all of downpour canon||

[eternal timber]

other than hunter

[modest root]

well yeah, but even then

[jolly solar]

I’m ngl I dislike how watcher uses a lot of the downpour creatures

[clear hill]

wait i cant find the doodle i dont remember where i sent it

[modest root]

moon doesn't do anything after that, hunter is set before right

[clear hill]

oh.. maybe watcher lore

[eternal timber]

ye

[raw pasture]

||thats also what the intro of survivor/monk's campaign looks like, and since outer expanse is meant to be that place its easier to just reuse some assets from it instead of making the whole thing from scratch again||

[turbid onyx]

yea

[clear hill]

this was like 3 days after the drop of 1.0 btw

[bold sun]

Hiya chat, hope everyone's having a good time in the beta. I'm gonna be jumping into the update tomorrow, delightfully blind, but l think I'd like to maintain a numerical checklist as l encounter stuff to ensure l don't miss out a thing.
Could someone send me, in plain numbers only, the amount of new critters and of new regions?

[clear hill]

critters: like ||3/4||
regions: ||3||

you will want to start a new save if you didnt plan to already, because creature spawns have changed and wont update properly if you play from an existing save

[bold sun]

The amount of endings I'll abstain from perhaps, since l did get inkling about funny business being involved, variants of a same ending probably. I'll find out myself (if it's intuitive)

Yeah I'll do a new save, am well aware of the screwed up creature spawns issue

[raw pasture]

for creatures, there's ||3|| with actual mechanics and ||2.5 (maybe 2.7?)|| that are more for spectacle

[bold sun]

Oh! I'll allow myself one more question. Are all endings independent still? Can be gotten in any order? Or is there any "you NEED the rot ending to access this next plot" or uh "you need to NOT HAVE ripplespace yet to get this plot" funny business

[eternal timber]

so like, first purposed organism (because hunter assumedly a slugcat) sent to give the info to pebbles (in downpour it's spearmaster's mission before the campaign and wanderer from the drought mod is the first journey) pebbles "locks in" and uses all the water, forced broadcast happens which makes the rot (regular cancer variation), pebbles doesn't listen, moon dies, hunter, survivor&monk (with how close they are especially with downpour I consider the canon version is a co-op survivor and monk lol) and then with how iterators heat the world up when they all eventually either die or figure the AAA out it, it becomes essentially saint's worldstate (with how pebbles is doing a form of riv's worldstate would probably exist too)

[bold sun]

Basically am just asking if there's any artificer situation where different endings lock each other out

[clear hill]

rot ending will not be required, but id still reccommend awaking the prince

[raw pasture]

the rot ending is blocked off if you progress too much towards a different ending, but it is not necessary for any other endings

[eternal timber]

wait, yall already know the lore, we are in watcher spoilers, yall know base game

[bold sun]

Well it's an unappealing ending so no real complaints

[clear hill]

LOL indeed

[bold sun]

Thank you all for the info!

[raw pasture]

good luck, try not to get eaten by worms

[bold sun]

|| also that's pretty smaller numbers than l expected it prolly pays off good though ||

[eternal timber]

I also am personally opposed to the rot so I will not be doing it and instead ||be happy smiting it into extinction (or ig just quarantining it lol)||

[clear hill]

oh yes, they put their efforts elsewhere dont worry

creatures also take an incredibly long time to make too

so theres that

[eternal timber]

||well if it doesn't have anything to eat it will just die sooooo||

[bold sun]

Would you recommend getting spinny ending out of the way quickly to have the high-ripple abilities going into the other stuff?

[clear hill]

yes

[raw pasture]

yeah

[clear hill]

its really nice to have it early

[bold sun]

Got it

[eternal timber]

also did they move Spin in heat ducts or did they just remove her?

[raw pasture]

moved i think

[eternal timber]

ok do you know where she is?

[clear hill]

to thermal arrays

[eternal timber]

thermal arrays? that's where I spawned!

no, person that put fire, I already moved to her old position

[clear hill]

NOOO

[eternal timber]

I am on opposite side :(

tho I am in fire area so it is accurate

[gritty pagoda]

where is salination in heat ducts, where it was before is now where spinning top was?

[bold sun]

Here's a related-but-different topic general question, do any of you know if watcher also uses the "game+" systematic where if you delete and restart a save all the found map data gets retained in the new one?

[gritty pagoda]

it does seem to use it

[clear hill]

i think so? though its just in region maps and not the region map itselfffffff i thiiiinkkk

idk i havent restarted yet

[eternal timber]

awww I love how the heat of rooms that use lots of fire/being close to fire makes the watcher squint from the heat

[bold sun]

Yeah l don't mind if the Ball Of Yarn has to be remade from scratch that's no biggie

[eternal timber]

also being up next to fire is more like wincing like the other danger closeness eye shuts

[bold sun]

I spent a lotta effort filling out these region maps tho under the guise of getting a smooth experience when l restart

[clear hill]

understandable

oh man i need to like actually do something...

i need to draw... water art

(watcher)

[strange osprey]

where echo.....

[eternal timber]

ok I am back at the top shelter, the one at the turbulent portal

[bold sun]

Water world

[eternal timber]

at the thermal array I was told

[strange osprey]

thermal array

qhar where’s that

[eternal timber]

thermal relay*

[eternal timber]

top

I just got from down there

it's actually not as far as I thought

[strange osprey]

i came from the top

[eternal timber]

same

[eternal timber]

turbulent portal?

[strange osprey]

where’s he

there’s a portal in the room above

but it’s not there

it’s supposed to have a echo

1.5 change i guess?

[eternal timber]

yea thermal relay is on the other side of that room than the normal way, that portal is put there when you echo from turbulent

[strange osprey]

ooh

so no echo for me?

[eternal timber]

I was told there was on in thermal relay

one*

[strange osprey]

qhar

i’m confused

which room specifically?

[eternal timber]

this way

[strange osprey]

ooh i know

[eternal timber]

idk just in thermal relay somewhere

[strange osprey]

wrong ss….

i meant this

right

or is it just a portal

okay never mind

i’ll just explore

[eternal timber]

since she was moved I don't think it's on a map

[modest root]

woahh

nobody told me ||fourth weaver encounter gave unlimited one way safe warps||

[hollow notch]

hi chat i just finished the new endings. that was. It certainly was

[modest root]

||does weaver level affect invis at all||

[hollow notch]

i bawled my eyes out, 100/10 dlc 👍

[raw pasture]

dont think so

[hollow notch]

||no, not from what i experienced||

[modest root]

kk

pretty tail

and also ||does anyone know if weaver one way warps prioritize regions with rifts, in the same way they do uninfected ones for prince?||

[limber solstice]

||i suppose spinning top is the questline that upgrades your invis, weaver is the questline that upgrades your warping, and prince is the questline that upgrades your wretched rat stench||

[quiet knot]

Peak

[devout laurel]

how do you know when you have ||closed all warps? ||do you have to go somewhere?

[modest root]

||also i never wouldve guessed the weaver feather unused pngs would appear on the watcher himself lol||

[raw pasture]

trust me, you'll know

[proud shoal]

Any unused content left after 1.5?

[limber solstice]

starcatcher inside parallax is still scrapped

[modest root]

oh my god this is so useful

||i didnt notice the threads still existed||

[proud shoal]

Parallax? I forget what that means.

[modest root]

||i assume they lead you towards the rifts?||

||after you and weaver come to an agreement||

[limber solstice]

fancy background

[proud shoal]

Ah

[proud shoal]

Yeah I remember that. Honestly no idea what that was even for or how that would fit in.

[limber solstice]

||so funny that it just kind of adopts you as a coworker||

[modest root]

||straight up weaving it||

[limber solstice]

it would've gone in the eastern starcatcher

[silver wedge]

alright i just got ||rot prince out of his bubble|| how do i ||progress weaver ending||?

[modest root]

||more of a son at this point lmao, you start to become a weaver yourself||

[humble geyser]

uh, important question
||after I get the weaver ending how am I supposed to progress the rot ending||

[proud shoal]

I see so as an unused minor area

[modest root]

||why am i glowing does this mean i have to go see daddy weaver||

[limber solstice]

||watcher's just so empathetic that they uh. absorb the physical characteristics of everyone they encounter who isn't a tree||

[raw pasture]

||you cant. fortunately, its not necessary for the final ending||

[humble geyser]

||do I have the information I need to find that||

||or is there something else I need to figure out||

[modest root]

||is my glow just beacuse im becoming a weaver||

||is it just like his halo||

[raw pasture]

||i think that means you're cleansing that room of rot||

[limber solstice]

||i phrased this as a joke but it's genuinely a plausible reason||

[modest root]

||what??||

[humble geyser]

there spoiler bars aren't helping when you don't reply to the person

[modest root]

||does it like, gradually lower the sentient rot percentage?||

[humble geyser]

idk if someone is answering my question

[limber solstice]

||oh god. can i still even hatch prince||

[raw pasture]

you should be good. maybe explore daemon if you haven't already though

[humble geyser]

yeah I'll just go back to the big areas

[raw pasture]

||dont worry you can||

[modest root]

||it does, i checked the devtools||

[modest root]

nobody is, no

[proud shoal]

Surprised by how much they changed|| daemon||

[raw pasture]

well i guess my name is nobody since i just did

[modest root]

||it seems stronger halo = more infected room||

[modest root]

nobody had, no*

[limber solstice]

||causing my beautiful flower son immense agony with my mere presence (he is corruption and my aura cleanses the world)||

[modest root]

||can you failwarp as a weaver||

[humble geyser]

oh yeah I should update my bingo

[limber solstice]

||nope. i am locked out of outer rim entirely because the warp in RS is broken||

[modest root]

||wow prince just called watcher an omega thats rude||

||and it seems that maybe watcher was always destined to be a weaver, prince mentions a familiar scent when hes first waking up, and then identifies it once you return as a weaver||

[raw pasture]

||in my experience its only broken most of the time. keep going to and from daemon and eventually it should let you through||

[modest root]

||how much new dialogue does prince have when youre a weaver?||

[raw pasture]

||two visits worth||

[modest root]

thanks

||i find it interesting he still treats you like a friend despite you actively closing the rifts he uses to grow||

[devout laurel]

I got one prince dialogue and he was like, you have grown what is the other one?

[limber solstice]

||thank fuck for my newly gained warp fatigue immunity||

[hollow terrace]

watcher is breaking my arena when i try to windchime now

[modest root]

thats

sad

[rapid fog]

I finally have float!

[modest root]

||he acknowledges the fact you are essentially killing him||

||and still treats you like a friend, pebbles could learn a thing or two||

[hollow terrace]

ouuuhuhhg why are you not working i literally only have watcher enabled

[humble geyser]

current state of watcher bingo card (yellow = unconfirmed, blue = technically no but close enough)

[raw pasture]

have you disabled both dlcs in the steam menu?

[rapid fog]

im your god respect me

[limber solstice]

i forgot, how many visits does it take to hatch prince

[modest root]

||4?||

[hollow terrace]

i just have them disabled in the remix menu
like this

[humble geyser]

currently have 1 bingo, 1 almost bingo, and 1 X bingo

[devout laurel]

first ||he is not there|| second ||he talks||, third ||he talks again|| 4th he ||hatches||

[raw pasture]

you need to have them disabled in steam, like this. once you do, you can freely enable whatever you want in the remix menu

[devout laurel]

My sharrace-Fetid warp is not closing

[rapid fog]

prevent lizard rot is just curing the room. now if your lizard spawns there no rot

[hollow terrace]

huh, noted

[devout laurel]

what ||warps do you not have to close||?

[humble geyser]

||that's not preventing or curing rot on a tamed lizard||

[raw pasture]

||just the daemon ones i think. also shattered terrace to ancient urban||

[tired fog]

has anyone made a watcher version of this yet

[desert trail]

,[[[[xhdjbdjsjs nooo

[modest root]

||i wonder what the symbolism behind the weaver having chain clanking sounds as opposed to the usual echo singing is||

oh yeah

do i miss anything if i dont go to daemon until i finish weaver

[devout laurel]

My Fetid to Sherrace warp works but wont be sewn up but then its like weird in sherrace and wont let me through

[raw pasture]

||nothing that you cant still find after finishing weaver||

[modest root]

sick thats what i was asking

dont want to sidetrack myself

but also dont want to miss anything

[devout laurel]

how long does the 4th ending take in relation to 3rd?

[silver ravine]

much quicker

[devout laurel]

good

[humble geyser]

oh wait I figured it out: ||you only have to progress the rot ending to get the dream cutscene to meet the final ending condition||

good to know

it wasn't different until I did that

[devout laurel]

||should the OR - Daemon Warp still be open for weaver or do I have to close it somehow because it looks different than daemon warp stuff||

[raw pasture]

it should stay open

[humble geyser]

now let's see what this final ending is

be back once I'm done

[raw pasture]

have fun :)

[silver wedge]

wwhat do i do here? shattered terace btw spoilered for weaver

[humble geyser]

I will leave you with ||moths being complete idiots|| while you wait

[raw pasture]

||follow the threads||

[hollow terrace]

learned that msc doesn't seem to be compatible with windchime watcher, unfortunately

[raw pasture]

it should be, it worked fine for me

[silver wedge]

||does void weaver show up everywhere or in just some select regions?||

[silver ravine]

||pretty sure everywhere||

[silver wedge]

guh

[clear hill]

Everywhere except regions you'd probably expect

[silver wedge]

rotted regions?

[raw pasture]

||they're only going to be in a few regions at a time, but they could be in any region||

[silver wedge]

||do they show up once for every region? like i have to meet them in every region?||

||or just like a handful of times i go see them||

[clear hill]

||they can show up in a region multiple times||

[raw pasture]

||you're correct here. iirc you only have to meet them like 4 times||

[hollow terrace]

||tf is this sack||

[silver ravine]

||moth cacoon||

[modest root]

why are you mutilated

[hollow terrace]

hunter

[modest root]

hear me out

the weaver should just ||kill you if you try to re-open a portal they are actively closing||

||they just like strangle you or something||

[silver wedge]

ah okay, thank you

[strange osprey]

this dlc is so beautiful
it would look way better if there was an actual lore reason on everything

id love to know why iterators are like this, why the skies are pink

if it was downpour itd explain everything btw/silly

[silver wedge]

spilled pink sauce everywhere

[strange osprey]

but this is the things i miss the most on the watcher

theres no explanation on anything! the regions arent even connected

[devout laurel]

guys I dont know if I am softlocked I have ||all rifts closed|| except this weird one ||between fetid and sherrace|| and nothing is happening

[strange osprey]

why is there rain 24/7 in regions like stormy coast? theres no explanation!

[hollow terrace]

||i gathered a bunch of anglers this feels hellish||

[silver ravine]

heard that this was a bug that was happening a lot

[raw pasture]

clearly someone hasnt spent enough time in the lore mines. this makes perfect sense to me hey why are there dead canaries everywhere

[river rune]

guys I have started now and a thing happened to me

[devout laurel]

could be the vulture pink gas in the air the pyramids are seeming to be floating they could be outputting it

[raw pasture]

||they look more like demon piranhas here tbh||

[hollow terrace]

||why do they have to scream when chasing you, who thought they needed to scream||

[river rune]

|| a lot of purple void spawn appeared and a text said I should free them to show the way, but I couldnt interact with them before they disappear, what should I had done when this happens again ||

[raw pasture]

||apparently you need either a high enough ripple level or a karma flower in your hand (karma reinforcement doesnt count) to see them||

[river rune]

|| I just meet the echo two times and ate the karma flower of the room ||

[hollow terrace]

||being chased by one of these things seems like something that i would not wish on anyone||

[modest root]

is this the portal bug

[raw pasture]

||i wish anglerfish were like twice as big and way louder. they should still be able to go through pipes though||

[modest root]

what the fuck did i do im sorry

i pissed him off

[hollow terrace]

||anglerfish are just rainworld deciding to be a horror game now i think||

[modest root]

i cannot find

the fucking

warp to OR

[raw pasture]

||i dont think there is one anymore? outside of daemon anyway||

[gritty pagoda]

idk why there are 2

[hollow terrace]

||from what i can tell they seem to just passively follow you when alerted until you get too far away, then they go berserk and consume thy soul||

[modest root]

no no the one i made

||i have one from OR to coral||

[raw pasture]

||they also freak out and start flying all over the place if you go invisible which is funny||

[modest root]

||and i cant find it even with warp menu||

[raw pasture]

maybe its gone then?

[modest root]

||i ended up closing it from the throne side just to say goodbye to prince for one last time||

[modest root]

was on the map

thats how i knew abt it

[river rune]

|| got a karma flower and they are going the direction of the echo ||

[desert trail]

Tempted to ask one thing about the beta

So... || is weaver the only new npc||

[hollow terrace]

||discovered that poking them causes a weird noise alongside aggroing them immediately, so don't do that||

||also despite being fish they don't die on land, weird||

[modest root]

||yes, technically||

[raw pasture]

||yes||

[gritty pagoda]

ITS THE GUY

[modest root]

hes so fucking pretty

i love him

absolutely blew me away

[split crag]

This is apparently what the unused || "grapple snake" || looks like.

[modest root]

way better than the spider ideas or void worm head

[modest root]

ew.

[raw pasture]

oh hey there's another unused creature, cool

does it do anything

[gritty pagoda]

so one of them was made by me a while ago

[desert trail]

During the bingo || i guessed new echo shape, someone say feather spider, someone else say bird. Funny how none of us are correct lmao ||

[hollow terrace]

||berserking anglerfish don't seem to go after other creatures, they only really focus on whatever fled/poked them, after that they just zoom around aimlessly till they calm down||

[split crag]

No AI or locomotion, he just lays there lifeless.

[modest root]

hes so much cooler than that

[raw pasture]

||i saw worm mentioned a few times||

[modest root]

more of a snak

[raw pasture]

||definitely wasnt expecting it though||

[desert trail]

True
They absolutely cooked
Incomprehensible unimaginable design

[modest root]

||snake||

||or a dragon||

||reminds me of a chinese dragon||

in a sense

[gritty pagoda]

Void worms are a thing

I guess void shit is worm related

[raw pasture]

||true, but its very reminiscent of void worms, so thats why i call it a worm||

[visual abyss]

how many unused creatures are there?

[modest root]

wait

[raw pasture]

i think just that and the millipede but idk for sure

[modest root]

do rot shakers not grab you anymore

||or is this a weaver specific thing||

[humble geyser]

||at some point you become immune to proto rot, I assume that same thing applies to shakers||

[gritty pagoda]

assuming that this and the milipeed are going to be in the full realease

[modest root]

||wait really? is this into the weaver questline or the prince one||

[raw pasture]

||probably once you get the rot purification ability||

[humble geyser]

||I noticed it when I was trying to die faster||

[modest root]

||anyways any idea why i have connections on my map but none in game||

[raw pasture]

oh i doubt it, millipede is literally just a slugcat face attached to a bunch of white circles and some stick legs. probably just a wip thing that got left in

[silver ravine]

Really doubt millipede is going to actually be in the game

[modest root]

||im warping around the region and all the portals are closed already, yet i have blue lines on my map||

[split crag]

The ||millipede|| is a gag, I doubt he'll be in it unless there's some joke ending like inv. On the other hand, the ||grapple snake|| actually looks like it was intended to be finished. It just has no AI or pathfinding logic.

[hollow terrace]

||got dev console working, spawned a milipede out of curiosity and oh||

||oh no||

[gritty pagoda]

Do we know when was the beta branch last updated?

[silver ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1419863420286664744/1420489352605339648/Silly_Milli_thing.gif

[lucid oyster]

Truelly terrifying

[spring prairie]

what in the goddamn

[hollow terrace]

my guess is the uh
that
is a placeholder for something actually normal looking

[spring prairie]

||this looks like it has to do with the ending cutscene?||

[humble geyser]

final score screen

[silver ravine]

||millipede gives me the "made in 10 minutes" vibes||

[gritty pagoda]

Also thank you John weaver for preventing the horrors of portal hell I went through on release

[raw pasture]

nice! i managed to get through the whole game only killing a single frog lol

[spring prairie]

pacifist run

[native walrus]

evil grapple worm!? holy shit

[modest root]

what the fuck

||egg portal in outer rim that spits you out at the dial?||

[humble geyser]

(||If you can't tell I spent like 5 hours in the fetid > shattered area trying to figure out how the weaver works since my daemon > shattered portal was broken and that was the next best thing (also it was rotted)||))

[silver wedge]

||alright ive met void weaver for the second time but now it just shows that hes nowhere. did i do something wrong?||

[modest root]

open more portals

[devout laurel]

what is supposed to happen when you|| close all rifts?||

[hollow terrace]

||discovered a "tower crab", bigass drill crab that unlike the usual one actively follows me around, disconcerting||

[silver wedge]

using the random warp?

[modest root]

yes

[raw pasture]

||nope, just go portaling around, maybe they'll show up eventually||

[humble geyser]

ok. now that playthrough is complete. Final thoughts

[modest root]

||weaver wont do anything if you dont give him a job||

||hes a janitor, cleaning up after someones reckless portal use||

[raw pasture]

||you go somewhere. trust me, if it happens you will know||

[raw pasture]

||love those guys. the part where they actually appear is awesome||

[nova crane]

im still in the prologue since i havent had much time to play yet, should i take pearls from the base regions with me?

[silver ravine]

yeah

[nova crane]

alr, which ones have been brought over yet already? or are you able to go back to the base regions

[spring prairie]

these things scared the shit out of my cause i thought i had broken my game 😭

[modest root]

any you can access in watcher

[devout laurel]

are you supposed to close the throne warps

[modest root]

are ones you can read

[silver wedge]

karma flower portals or nah?

[raw pasture]

can't go back, and people have already catalogued all of them iirc (so you bringing them over would just be for you)

i have personally checked the industrial one though

[raw pasture]

think so

[gritty pagoda]

I'm imagining him just seeing the utter portal mess I left on my first playthrough and wondering what the fuck happened

[raw pasture]

yes

[modest root]

okay what the fuck

||i cant close my throne portals||

||ive tried three times now on this one portal||

[nova crane]

oh alr, ill probably just bring like two over, btw where is the catalogue for all of the base pearls when i get to the lore reader?

[modest root]

||i get the sewing animation and everything||

[raw pasture]

huh. well your game seems to be bugged

[modest root]

||but it re-opens when i go back||

[desert trail]

another one bites the dust (people seem to get this bug a lot)

[modest root]

is there

anything i can do about it

or am i just locked out of this ending now

[raw pasture]

well the lore reader is a bit different than normal. here's the website with all the stuff though if you want to see for yourself (though there's also spoilers for npcs and endings so maybe dont go there yet) https://yanwittmann.github.io/rw-collection-index/?item=Prince_3&transcriber=rot-prince

[modest root]

wait.........

yanwittmann....

[spring prairie]

they already updated the pearl site

[modest root]

yan wittmann

[spring prairie]

#awesome

[modest root]

yan flies

[raw pasture]

ok for some reason i copied the prince dialogue specifically. weird of me to do tbh

[silver ravine]

I think this mod was meant to fix it? but it might be for another bug

[raw pasture]

yeah i think thats the right mod for it

[nova crane]

ty! yeah im just going to wait until i complete most of watcher to use this, i just mainly wanted to have this saved so i can check it when the time comes

[young ether]

I have also updated the drive I sent earlier with videos of basegame and downpour pearls if anyone cares to see them

[humble geyser]

1. best first playthrough of any game I have played
2. (almost) every creature is very well made
3. (almost) every region is one of my favorites in rain world (unexpectedly, the ridges are now some of my favorites)
   ||4. Fetid glen is held back by basilisks, I used to like basilisks but I don't anymore. 90% of my problems with basilisks would be solved if pipe protection prevented basilisk poison
4. Figuring out the weaver ending... was more painful than it had to be. It took me 10 hours of playtime to see my first signs of a weaver, and ~6 more hours to figure out how to actually force an encounter with them. There is a very simple fix I would like to suggest but I will describe that in more detail after. The ending when you know how to meet the weaver is super fun and I wish it wasn't held back by that one issue
5. Shoutout to decayed verdant waterways region immediately made the whole world feel more "tangible", added a lot for me. Also nice leviathan sky whale ||
   Overall, 9/10 that could easily be a 10/10 with pretty minor tweaks.

[nova crane]

wait so would it be more important to get like white/semi colored pearls? or are those catalogued too

[raw pasture]

i assume they're also catalogued but idk. they probably dont do anything interesting though

[silver ravine]

||why is this listed as being said by the void weaver||

[hollow terrace]

||trying to figure out how to spawn the bigass whale with dev console, i've learned also that the desert whales are just regular skywhales with the alt-form tag flipped on||

[nova crane]

i could probably just get them from the files and decrypting them with the code if someone hasnt already done so

[silver ravine]

||theres already a icon for the pearl reader||

[raw pasture]

iirc it was a bit rushed. it'll be fixed eventually

[modest root]

||big whale just has the leviathanWhale tag||

if it dosent update my map

[hollow terrace]

||doesn't seem to be working, sadly||

[modest root]

how am i supposed to figure out where i have warps to close

sob

it did not help, the portal is still permanently open

[hollow terrace]

||tried spawning this once, crashes the game though so this is all i have of it, my guess is its the weaver limbs i've seen once or twice||

[modest root]

thats great.

[humble geyser]

next time I see a dev in here I'll say this again but to expand on number 5:
||when you see a new thing for the first time, your first instinct is to immediately find the nearest shelter to save your progress. I got lucky my second time with the weaver being 1 room from the portal and might have been searching for hours longer if that never happened.
Once I figured out sleeping made it go away, I was then so scared to ever shelter once I saw even feathers on the map. I didn't know what caused them to appear and even once I did I didn't know the conditions to make them disappear so I brute forced it and went all the way in 1 cycle trying to never die on the way. I even tried to replicate everything I did on the way to my first weaver since I didn't know what the conditions were, such as waking up with karma protection and passing but not grabbing a karma flower on the way||

[modest root]

so i cannot do the weaver ending

and thus cannot get either new ending

[glass pelican]

||i feel like that's probably just part of the region and not like an actual entity||

[humble geyser]

||what's the solution? the same thing rain world already does for similar situations:||

[silver ravine]

||its for something else||

[humble geyser]

||When you consume a karma flower, UI appears to show you that your karma is fortified. If you die, the UI shows the karma flower shield being lost and a karma flower planted on slugcat's death location||

[silver ravine]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3573808516 pretty sure this should fix it?

[modest root]

i installed it.

[humble geyser]

||but most notably, when you try to starve with karma protection, the UI tells you that your karma protection will be lost if you finish the starve||

[modest root]

im hoping its just

an OR issue

and im going to ignore it

it seems to be

hopefully that dosent lock me out of the ending then

[humble geyser]

||and so back to this, what's the solution? Something needs to appear when you first enter the room with a golden rift. It can be UI, something visual around slugcat, or anything else to signify that something happened but you aren't done with the process yet. Then, the most important part, if you are in a shelter whatever the marker is flashes and/or changes color/shape to inform you that sleeping will lose the state you are in||

||I don't want to code the game for the devs, this is just 1 possible solution, but whatever they decide to go with, it has to tell you when you gain the ability to meet them and what the conditions are to lose that state before you lose it||

anyway text wall over

[worldly orchid]

i'm probably so late to the train but how does one progress the weaver questline ?? i've seen the feathers on the map but nothing else that seems to indicate them/how to find them

||outer rim ripple spawn seem to be leading me somewhere but i've already found the spiral room once and don't want to waste a hike if it turns out there's nothing there otherwise i've got nothing||

[modest root]

find the feathers, go to the region, find the gold portal.

[tough moss]

can someone send a picture of the ||new coral caves (?) lizard?|| if anyone has one :)

[modest root]

find the gold portal, enter ripplespace, follow the threads, they belong to him

[humble geyser]

||I do want to add to the end of this, I don't hate the ending, I just think having a puzzle that gives you 0 feedback when you did something wrong is an issue with it||

[raw pasture]

the side view doesnt do a good job of showing off how stupid its face is though so i can get a better one if you want

[tough moss]

please please please

[tough moss]

aaaahh hes so silly :)

[raw pasture]

k give me like 2 minutes

[worldly orchid]

OOH that makes sense thank you!!

[modest root]

you can sleep normally, but if you sleep while inside of a golden portal region, the weaver will finish his task and leave

meaning you cannot sleep once in the same region as the weaver

[humble geyser]

oh now that I finished the ending, what's the official and internal name for what I call ||snapping lizards||

[modest root]

ugly

[silver ravine]

||peach lizards||

[devout laurel]

guys my run is softlocked😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[modest root]

hm?

[raw pasture]

here you go

[worldly orchid]

inch resting i do not know what this means yet but i’ll keep it in mind

[tough moss]

yessss ||diplocalus|| <3 <3 <3

[devout laurel]

it wants me to go through the fetid portal to sherrace but when I do the portal doesn't close and wont let me through

[raw pasture]

iirc they're called ||peach lizards||

[tough moss]

looks jusst like this right??

[modest root]

||oh my god skyscraper crabs are so tall||

theyre so fucking big

[raw pasture]

indeed

[raw pasture]

maybe spoiler tag this? its a new creature after all

[wispy solstice]

getting a little frustrated with trying to figure out the conditions to ||summon the big weaver(?)||

[silver ravine]

Have you seen the portals you make turn yellow?

[wispy solstice]

||i've gotten them to appear only twice||

[modest root]

unfortunately i believe my run is also softlocked

[raw pasture]

pile

[tough moss]

LOL

[wispy solstice]

as of right now my idea of how they work is this
||in a room with a karma flower, make a portal||
||find another karma flower, come to the portal you made from a different direction, it'll be golden||
||go into ripplespace, then follow the purple thread to the location of the weaver||

i don't know if this is correct or not

that's just what i've come to assume so far from just playing

[humble geyser]

oh yeah I'll put this guy here, collection lizard 45 is here

no name yet

[silver ravine]

||pretty sure that portals become yellow after a few cycles||

[modest root]

i was wrong

i just literally had not visisted verdant once

[tough moss]

AAAWWWEE dude i love indigoos :)

[modest root]

i had never been there

once

[raw pasture]

if you would like to know whether you're right or not: ||the karma flowers arent necessary. you just need to wait||

[modest root]

so it didnt even show on my map

[wispy solstice]

||so i just have to make them, leave and come back later?||

[modest root]

or, i think i was wrong,

[raw pasture]

well at least you're there now

[modest root]

usually only takes a cycle or two

[humble geyser]

also had this guy in my images folder since like day 2 of regular watcher... maybe they will be added as well...

[wispy solstice]

alrighty, that gives an idea of one region i gotta get to then

||i know i left a portal in verdant, that should probably lead to it||

[humble geyser]

first I do want to make sure their cosmetics are unaffected by 1.5

[wispy solstice]

but in any case

to confirm this so far

[raw pasture]

very shapely creatures

[humble geyser]

oh yeah I can get the ID of that white lizard now

[wispy solstice]

1 - ||make a portal in any region using a karma flower||
2 - ||approach the entrance it after a few cycles away||
3 - ||go into ripplespace, follow the threads to the weaver||?

[humble geyser]

what's the internal acronym for ||that new region filled with noodleflies||

[silver ravine]

||what was the id of the very docile lizard in smiley room in pillar grove again||

[raw pasture]

correct

[modest root]

||how exactly do anglers work?||

[wispy solstice]

that definitely makes things a lot easier

[silver ravine]

||wpga? ||

[young ether]

Did you put greeble in your collection

[wispy solstice]

||i was kind of going on the assumption that i had to actually find the right spot to make a portal||

[humble geyser]

the bailisk I put above? not yet

[young ether]

No, special spawn in pg

[humble geyser]

oh where is that, I think I never saw them

[young ether]

Room ||smiley||

[raw pasture]

||if they see you their light turns orange and they follow slowly at a distance. if you touch them or go too far away from them for too long it turns red and they freak out and try to snatch you. they can go through pipes but have difficulty biting once out of the water||

[modest root]

||so just keep close to them?||

[raw pasture]

||somewhat close, yeah||

[humble geyser]

mine is ID 14632

[wispy solstice]

i wish them all a very Get Eaten By The Rot

[humble geyser]

do they all look identical to this?

[wispy solstice]

also

||does the feathery pattern around regions on the map indicate that i have a portal that's ready?||

[silver ravine]

||Pretty sure the lizard in the smiley room has a set id so its always docile||

[raw pasture]

i believe so

[raw pasture]

yes

[wispy solstice]

okay!

[young ether]

I think so
||// Greeble the green lizard. Special thanks to shortstaq and stormthecat for the ID.
WPGA_smiley : 1-Green-{Mean:-1.0|Seed:4193}||

[humble geyser]

WAIT FERN

[young ether]

?

[humble geyser]

||ID 4193 is Fern||

[young ether]

oh

do you have them already lol

[humble geyser]

they are somewhat well known on scav collecting

[devout laurel]

guys does anybody know a way to save my run PLEASE🙏

[raw pasture]

||is that the only rift you haven't closed?||

[devout laurel]

on the map yes

[modest root]

the map is deceptive

just random warp a bit

theres enough regions now its way easier to miss one

and not realize you did

[devout laurel]

everytime I random warp I go to fetid no matter what it wants me to go there

[modest root]

hm

you installed bandaid fix?

[devout laurel]

nope

[modest root]

do that, then

see if it helps

it seems dotted lines also dont need closed, if that helps

[serene sable]

anyone else not getting the end cutscenes?

[devout laurel]

is it on the workshop?

[modest root]

oh

holy shit

i got the ending

brb

[wispy solstice]

extra note that happened literally just now

[modest root]

just

changing the link rq

that was a request login

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3573808516&

[serene sable]

like, for spinning top's ending specifically?

[wispy solstice]

||the portal you go through can also trigger the search||

[devout laurel]

plz work

[humble geyser]

||funnily enough after I sent that image of them I went to scavcord to try and find an image of Fern to say they were an imposter||

[young ether]

lmao

[modest root]

wow

that was a beautiful cutscene

i love weaver!!!!

anyways im curious

when exactly does weaver energy paly

is it only the first golden portal?

[humble geyser]

I was here so many times yet never found it as well

[humble geyser]

||it's why I have 22 noot mother kills||

||there's even some evidence left...||

[modest root]

yknow

i feel like

watcher is experiencing the childhood he missed

spinning top is a sibling, prince a friend, weaver a parental figure

[humble geyser]

||idk if I actually impacted the fate of this noodlefly||

[modest root]

MAJOR VOID WEAVER ENDING SPOILERS
||am i the only one who thinks they look similar??||

[serene sable]

don't make me do a ping i beg

[humble geyser]

which cutscenes did you not get

[serene sable]

the Spinnign Top ending cutscenes

[devout laurel]

it worked I got weaver ending

[humble geyser]

did you actually finish the ending?

[serene sable]

yes

[humble geyser]

if you didn't get credits there is more to do

[serene sable]

I went to the voidbaths AND got the toys

[modest root]

its soooo pretty oh my god

[humble geyser]

oh then not sure

[serene sable]

but the cutscenes didnt appear

just black screen

[raw pasture]

huh, weird

[modest root]

im freaking out over weaver ending more than i did over prince ending

[serene sable]

even when i turned off my mods

[modest root]

its so visually appealing

[devout laurel]

That last part in the weaver ending is ||litteraly how the ripples work||

[modest root]

hm?

explain

[devout laurel]

oh my peak

[modest root]

you mean the entire sequence or the cutscene

[glass pelican]

what's that

[modest root]

thats scary

i dont know

[devout laurel]

on the floor you can actually see rings expanding and threads in the sky

[modest root]

oh yeah

||the weaver seems to actually be like, a god||

||like a god on the level of a void worm, if not higher||

[devout laurel]

It was the stupid ||ripple spider|| that decided to run up a wall

[glass pelican]

the whaaaaa

[modest root]

||its single handedly holding the cycle together||

||and it seems that the watcher is potentially a/the weaver?||

[devout laurel]

They will lead you to rifts

[modest root]

||the similarities are not unintentional im sure||

[glass pelican]

i've never seen them before what do they look like

[modest root]

||weaver vs watcher||

this is heavy spoilers

again

[devout laurel]

im gonna try to get 4th ending now

[modest root]

weaver ending cutscene

[raw pasture]

||watcher seems to take on the job after a point||

[modest root]

jesus christ man

the fucking

||arms moving in daemon||

actually made me jump

startled me

i was too locked in

why are they doing that btw what the fuck

||is daemon alive||

||the name would suggest so, no?||

[raw pasture]

||i dont think the void weaver is doing all of this singlehandedly. its a monumentally large task, and i assume that if the weaver's job is necessary to keep the cycle functioning then there's going to be more with the responsibility. watcher's whole deal shows that its not impossible to elect a successor after all||

[modest root]

||i mean, they are still like, the closest thing to "god" weve seen||

[raw pasture]

true

[modest root]

||you could call the prince a god of sorts, same with the watcher, but the weaver is like 12 steps above either of them||

[turbid onyx]

||i was thinking about this yesterday||

[modest root]

fuck man

the ||weaver arms in daemon||

[turbid onyx]

||weaver mocking watcher (no def not)||

[modest root]

i hate them

[turbid onyx]

||ive said this a million times i just can't stop sorry; they look exactly like void worm claws||

[raw pasture]

||i feel like its more, weaver kinda emoting to watcher? like "hey, i see you"||

[modest root]

||im calling them weaver arms because they are attached to threads||

[turbid onyx]

||yeah im just pointing it out because i think it's awesome||

[modest root]

||my wonder is, are they part of daemon, or holding it together?||

[turbid onyx]

||void worms take the strand out of you tho||

[raw pasture]

||they exist before the weaver ending btw, you can just only see the threads once you're Ready||

[wispy solstice]

second update

||i appear to be unable to consume reinforcement in making a portal||

[modest root]

||like, do they imply that the entirety of daemon is some great void creature?||

[wispy solstice]

||whenever i portal, it does leave threads everywhere around me||

||however, they seem to lead to dead ends?||

[raw pasture]

||you're gaining Powers now :)||

[turbid onyx]

||wouldnt be surprised honestly||

[wispy solstice]

||keep following the threads? one of them just lead to a different portal||

[modest root]

i just got kidnapped

[devout laurel]

OMG I AM GETTING 4TH ENDING OMG

[modest root]

same

no spoilers

i just got ||backj to the main map||

[hollow notch]

||one of my gfs pointed out how the rumbling noise that plays on top of the large central monolith sounds like purring or bellowing! and not aggressive either, like, it sounds like a calm animal. if that makes sense. i like animal||

[turbid onyx]

|| I think weavers a shitton cooler without the eyes so I just cope this way lmao||

[raw pasture]

||try going through one of the rifts they lead you to||

[wispy solstice]

let's see

[raw pasture]

||there are also eyes everywhere||

[hollow notch]

yeah!!

[wispy solstice]

WHAT

[turbid onyx]

||wonder if it was del or flower who made the art||

[hollow notch]

fun fact, ||im megalophobic (scared of overly huge things) so when i realized those were eyes following me i had to stand up for a moment||

daemon is 10000% my favorite area in rain world to ever exist though, the sheer sense of scale is amazing. awawa

[raw pasture]

yeah daemon is awesome

[hollow notch]

IT ISSSSS

id chill there forever if i could

[raw pasture]

i kinda wish it had actual platforming sections and stuff instead of basically just being a hub area. like giving you stuff to do between landmarks

[humble geyser]

at least it's a nice place to practice ripple jumps

[turbid onyx]

||probably flower since the only del mention i saw in the credits was for promo art||

[humble geyser]

oh also that reminds me, ||the platforming section to reach the watcher arena unlock is pretty cool||

[raw pasture]

||well whoever it is, they did an awesome job||

[turbid onyx]

||yeah man its gorgeous||

[humble geyser]

uh can someone who knows how I might dev console the new things give me a command for ||peach lizards||

[formal patio]

Greeble!!

[hollow notch]

actually yeah ||viewing daemon as a living being/multiple docile creatures makes me love it more. ngl. Quiet, otherworldly entity/entities simply observing you and letting you walk across its body. also i just like really strange looking creature designs in which they hardly look like an animal but theres something that registers familiarity||

[humble geyser]

Is their name being changed?

or did you find them independently

[raw pasture]

idk about dev console but you could always just use beastmaster

[humble geyser]

They've been known as Fern on scavcord at least

[humble geyser]

but I want specific IDs for gif making

[raw pasture]

well, im afraid i cant help you there, sorry

[formal patio]

I wasn’t aware it had another name

[turbid onyx]

|| absolutely everything in this game is alive or fleshy it is awesomee||

[hollow notch]

YEAH!!

||rain world’s world is Big animal thing to me. My beast||

[humble geyser]

first found on sept 8 2024

[raw pasture]

||i love the The Pipes Are Alive Theory theory, the theory where The Pipes are Alive||

[hollow notch]

OH PRETTY GREEN..

[hollow notch]

PIPE WORMS!!

[formal patio]

There is also ||paste the blue scav|| in ||pillar grove||

[humble geyser]

I saw Fern/Greeble in a <@&710574255686811698> submission

[turbid onyx]

|| yeah it's kinda similar to the shelters are alive theory, in which shelters are living||||

[hollow notch]

AWH……

[humble geyser]

oh what ID

[raw pasture]

||you're thinking too small scale. i mean the background pipes. the wheels. the chains that grow like vines. everything lives||