Watcher 1.5 Spoiler Thread

[split crag]

I might have to reset my watcher run

[pale parrot]

okay what the hell iv never seen a yellow ripple

[torn harness]

u sure?

[pale parrot]

WAIIIIT

[torn harness]

i kinda remember it was something like a

one way portla

but i dont remember

[pale parrot]

did u already meet spinning top 3 times

[torn harness]

spinning top is ascended

at my save

it appears in 2 different locations btw

this

thing

[pale parrot]

you can go to that area, but itl be rotted

sigh... not only is watcher breaking again, but mods will also break too

[torn harness]

is this old or new guys 😭

[desert trail]

LMFAO?????????

woa thats carazy

[pale parrot]

never seen it be4. must be new unless you have a mod of some sort or its rare

[torn harness]

no mods

[pale parrot]

bc 1.5 isnt even out yet

[desert trail]

kinda looks like you are playing modded coral caves when its a modded region

[torn harness]

just the ones that come from the update

[desert trail]

yes thats new

[torn harness]

how do i activate it

[desert trail]

for certain tell you the gold symbol is new

[torn harness]

warping in it

[desert trail]

that i cant help you i dont even play the beta </3

[torn harness]

nohing

[desert trail]

ignore it and come back next time is my best guess

[torn harness]

entering the invisible mode doesnt seem to help either

[pale parrot]

ripplespace?

[torn harness]

my save is like

after the rot kind ascended itself

[pale parrot]

try eating a karma flower

[torn harness]

the prince

[pale parrot]

have you eaten a karma flower

it seems like you may need to use KARMA instead of ripple for those

[torn harness]

that might make sense

[next berry]

how are people getting early access?

[torn harness]

but dammit i have NO IDEA where to find a karma flower in the desert

[pale parrot]

so either watcher ends up returning to the primordial form of karma, or it has to do with karma flowers

[torn harness]

either that

[pale parrot]

dude. you did rot ending, they should be everywhere

[torn harness]

or the dlc is not supposed to be played after the rot ending

[pale parrot]

it is

[torn harness]

and my whole game is broken

[pale parrot]

its unfinished bro

[torn harness]

100%

u sure it is

would you bet your soul on that affirmation

[pale parrot]

• youre supposed to play after as much as u want, otherwise every campaign would work like saint/ascension endings no matter what ending u get

arti for example

[silver ravine]

||oh god im back at hydroponics what the hell||

[pale parrot]

youre SUPPOSED to be able to play after genocide ending as arti so u can screw over the scavs more, as their tyrant this time

[short urchin]

it is meant to be able to be picked up wherever you left off, but there are a few pretty bad bugs if you do so

[pale parrot]

oh plus

whole point of the rot ending in watcher

is to keep playing after, but in a rotted world where karma flowers grow way too much

[torn harness]

like this???

[pale parrot]

you ate karma flower?

[short urchin]

I haven't seen that but seems about right

[pale parrot]

nvm

[torn harness]

at first moment i thought it was a cutscene or smth

[short urchin]

could you send exceptionlog

[wooden tendon]

ENDING SPOILERS DO NOT LOOK
||im so fucking devastated and confused and sad for watcher man. also what the fuck does any of this mean. is this how void worms are made videocult?||

[short urchin]

;exceptionlog

[teal tulip]

The exception log contains details about where in the code the exception occurred, useful to debug an error. It may be found in the game's root folder, along with the executable. Launching the game clears the file; if you have done so after getting the exception, you will need to trigger the error again to regenerate the log. If, even after doing so, the exception log doesn't exist, it's useful to provide this.

Default Steam path on Windows:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World
In Steam, you may open the game's folder with Right Click -> Properties -> Installed Files -> Browse..

To send the file, drag and drop it into the Discord window. Do not copy and paste the contents of the file.

The file provides the function which threw the exception in the code, as well as all of its ancestors down to the main. If the exception is generated by a mod or combination, typically they will be near the top, marked as modifying the recently-called functions. Disabling them may fix the issue.

[pale parrot]

what about the rain cycle timer

[pale parrot]

THE CREDITS ARE WEIRD??????? AND WHAT THE HELL???

[pale parrot]

wtf

[short urchin]

(well, make a #1019653041982537879 post and send exceptionlog there)

[torn harness]

btw dont spoil me but where have u picked up from

[wooden tendon]

i just watched a stream

[short urchin]

daszombes probably

[pale parrot]

theres nothing past rot ending yet

there will most likely be on sep 25 tho

[torn harness]

so should i just reset?

[wooden tendon]

i didnt watch all of it i basically just looked at the beginning and end

[short urchin]

daszombes restarted the game, although he cheated through most of the 2nd half

[pale parrot]

hell no

[desert trail]

"ENDING SPOILERS DO NOT LOOK"
my nosy ass immediately open them spoilers 😭

i hope i untagged that

[torn harness]

same 😭

[desert trail]

tbf im here to be nosy so

[pale parrot]

rot ending is AGONY to get, plus itl most likely be entirely expanded by sep 25, with the bugs fixed too prob

[torn harness]

im confused

[wooden tendon]

also this is the only ending afaik to have a score at the end, meaning its actually a 'true' ending

[torn harness]

at THE NEW UUPDATE FROM THE BETA
Is this new ending achievable after rotting the world?

[pale parrot]

atm, yes. but theres gonna be new stuff

[wooden tendon]

remember when this was a game about a lost rat searching for their family

[pale parrot]

😭

[torn harness]

i was betting everything there would be a fight agasitn that slugcat that killd our family

[desert trail]

dif rat </3

[wooden tendon]

downpour haters that hated it because "you're too important in the ecosystem/narrative" are gonna deflate like a cyan lizard

[desert trail]

people really need to stop thinking watcher dlc as "downpour 2" we DONT need downpour 2

we want survivor 2 with a fresh new twist

and this is indeed survivor 2

except i dont think watcher is ever looking for their family

they fully know they are gone

[urban rover]

as a downpour hater who said that exact thing watcher is goated. also it takes the whole "you're a slugcat but you're actually important this time" thing and does it way better than DP did

[pale parrot]

now its about fluffy rats breaking the cycle of life and death and suffering irreperable consequences because of their attempt to do so, and about saving robotic godlike gaming pcs that once upon a time could run a heavily modded game of terraria mid-boss at a full 60 fps, and now they can't even run DOOM anymore, and mournful boom rats wanting revenge on a whole race of monkeys to avenge her children, and about wet fish rats doing wet rat stuff, and stalking rats spreading turbo cancer, etc

[desert trail]

dif team dif writers

[urban rover]

i know i know

[desert trail]

im not here to like hate on downpour it's good dlc on its own and stuff but i dont like how downpour likers put down watcher dlc so much just because it wasnt a downpour 2

[wooden tendon]

watcher is like the narrative opposite of survivor

[desert trail]

despite andrewfm already stated downpour is more similar to a fanfic </3

i said it early this year (like jan) i PRAYED watcher isnt a downpour 2 and thank god it isnt

[urban rover]

watcher was a super acquired taste, kinda like the base game. that's why i like it a bit more, it's basically the closest we'll get to recapturing our first playthroughs

[wooden tendon]

both suffered childhood trauma but watcher gets unfortunately caught in some weird multi dimensional timeline shattering shenanigans and then becomes god??

[formal drift]

now im getting the permanent badlands insane screen shake

[clear hill]

the game is telling me (i modified it) that signal spires spinning top is ||all i need to weave close, but when i go through the game doesnt register it... idk what im missing, is the room missing a warp point asset thats usually there?|| @short urchin

[desert trail]

i mean to me survior tootally started the campaign and at least 50% of the campaign having hopes and dreams at reuniting with their family

while watcher started the campaign very lost and no goal

[formal drift]

did anyone find a fix for it?

[short urchin]

eh, I think it's more like watcher 1

[desert trail]

i heard multiple people has this issue

[desert trail]

ok true definitely watcher 1
Watcher is super unique

[urban rover]

also i tried to play this beta but my game starts insanely shaking when i go to the hibernation screen and i cant close out of it so i think ill wait for the full release

[short urchin]

I've seen a few reports of this issue but I have no idea what could be causing it

[wooden tendon]

i preferred the spinning top ending tbh i liked how simple and emotional it was, and how spinning top paralleled watcher so well. the other stuff is just too grandiose and otherworldly to have any emotional core or theme

[clear hill]

ill try to figure out a solution because i need this ending bro 💖

[short urchin]

I know jevmen had this issue but found some workaround

[desert trail]

yea someone in the main channel is asking "is this the true endign" but like </3 i think... given how they are you can decide whats true ending to urself atm <3

[lament goblet]

im also unable to get the ending ||because one warp wont close||

[short urchin]

I think if you try to open a warp in the same room or smthn, it'll delete the current one and then you can seal that one later? idk it's really jank

[clear hill]

ill try that ty

[desert trail]

ok i thought spinny ending has a song also? did prince ending has the same song as spinny's?

[wooden tendon]

is there only one ending that gives a score at the end?

[short urchin]

spent so much time trying to make warps very consistent and now they work like 95% of the time but the 5% of the time that they break it's really bad

[clear hill]

i hate when that happens so much 😭

i was able to make a portal from both ends but to no avail

[short urchin]

even after hibernating it's still stuck?

[hushed mica]

is there somewhere to bug report or are we just posting stuff in this thread?

[short urchin]

#1019653041982537879

[clear hill]

yeah unfortunately

[bright terrace]

||im still sitting with my thoughts I can’t actually fathom that for months I clocked watcher void worm as being the most narratively relevant ending given the raw foreshadowing in ST’s ending and then was proven RIGHT.|| HUGE ending spoilers

[clear hill]

ive tried a few different warps back and forth and it hasnt changed the result

[torn harness]

guys any road or idk first step towards new ending?

i have NO idea of what to do

just a singular tip

[spiral terrace]

nooo where's the puffy lizard?

the best lizard

[silver ravine]

so i just got the 4th ending

and

[spiral terrace]

the one that tounges paint onto you

[silver ravine]

well

bravo

[bright terrace]

Check your map after you warp around a bit during hibernation

[torn harness]

wasnt there like 2 in vanilla?

vanilla watcher

[bright terrace]

Yeah

[lament goblet]

im having the same issue as magicajaphet but in a different room so it seems like it isnt specific to the one location

[torn harness]

should i go to those plaes with feathers?

or whatever the golden things are

[silver ravine]

that ending was ABSOLUTLY AMAZING

[bright terrace]

Sure!! Have fun with discovering the puzzle behind it btw it was rlly fun

[torn harness]

alr

[lament goblet]

for me its the WARC_F01 > WARA_E09 warp

[bright terrace]

I KNOW RIGHT??? I can’t believe they rlly did just pull that off. I knew they were going to go there for months but I can’t believe they actually did it

[clear hill]

bro for now im just manually the entry to my list LMAOOO its litearlly one warp point 😭

[silver ravine]

||WHEN PRINCE GAVE ME THE MARK AND SAID maybe we arent so different after all I WAS LIKE WHAT||

[short urchin]

real

[formal drift]

something is very wrong with badlands, it is imploding my game, just left it and it gave me zoomies lmfao

oh nvm its the pearl giving me zoomies

wtf is happening

[silver ravine]

||AND WHEN I GOT TO THE TREE I WAS oh oh i know what this is||

[bright terrace]

||im so. The fucking narrative of. The like. Learning to move on in ST’s ending to repairing oneself in the weaver ending and then turning that good to ferrying those down to the void sea by becoming a worm. Genuinely so crazy. || ending spoilers

[silver ravine]

||then that daemon cutscene showing all the strands was honestly sick||

[bright terrace]

||the narrative of change and recovery is done continuously well in watcher I’m so glad it ends the way it did. Very good game||

[bright terrace]

YESS

[raw pasture]

||btw the mark actually does have an impact on the game, if you go to the pearl reader in AU you can actually understand some of them. there's a reference to The Guy Who Sold Bad Copper in one of them||

[devout laurel]

I cant go through the portal from daemon to sherrace is this intentional?

[silver ravine]

||i had a pearl with a voice line that i left in outer i probably should get that||

watcher lore is going to go crazy when this releases

[raw pasture]

dont think so, the rift from daemon to outer rim is broken for me (but only some of the time, other times it works fine)

[urban rover]

man i wanna experience this stuff but i dont feel like starting up a new playthrough

when i try to play on my main save the things bugged!!

[raw pasture]

you can always just use devtools to skip through the prologue

[devout laurel]

i cant wait to see weaver ending

[urban rover]

yeahhhh i could just use devtools and warp around

can you also spawn in colored pearls like is that a thing you can do???

[raw pasture]

beastmaster works in the beta and it has an option to spawn a random colored pearl. idk about devtools though

[silver ravine]

Still this visual glitch

[solar fiber]

I have but one question.
Is ||AR's threat music better now?||

[urban rover]

aughhhh what the heck why didnt the ||pearl reader|| spawn in???

[torn harness]

where can i find it

[urban rover]

it's supposed to be in ancient urban

[torn harness]

alr

[warped sandal]

ending spoilers ||at the depths before the void worm stuff happened what if you went up like, back into subterranean would you be able to go into outer expanse maybe I don’t know??||

[bright terrace]

||unfortunately not, I got through with dev tools and it seems it wasn’t intentional due to like lack of creatures and the like||

[warped sandal]

aww :(

[silver ravine]

theory on daemon ||daemon is literaly a computer daemon, but of the multiverse. making strands, and keeping everying running smoothly. The reason why shattered and outer rim have warps there is because they are both on extremes, with outer rim being on the literal outer rim on the world. idk about shattered though||

[desert trail]

what

[silver ravine]

im reading the outer rim pearl

[desert trail]

omg... ae nasir is canon to rainworld

[silver ravine]

||oh is that a star||

ill get the warp mod to get the pearl i left in outer

[desert trail]

oh thats so cool

james primate wasnt lying

whole bunch of everybody's favourite pearls! ("which we will get to experience in a new way")

check into uranium eater's stream

they are now using dev tool/mouse drag (i think its moouse drag) dragging watcher thru hell

[meager musk]

||i believe thats the "stardust" weve been seeing||

[desert trail]

i kinda regret not putting (bingo stuff) ||green star relevance into the bingo||

[silver ravine]

ill put any pearls i find in the shelter right next to the reader

||am i meant to get any lines for this pearl, i have the mark on||

||what||

[bright terrace]

That the one with music?

If so, no

[torn harness]

guys

[silver ravine]

what do i do here

[torn harness]

any hint to the golden portal puzzle?

[humble geyser]

can I just get a yes or no:
||the daemon > shattered terrace rift not working is intended||

[torn harness]

i legitely have no clude like nothing

[devout laurel]

||Nobody talking about the half complete iterator?||

[silver ravine]

do i make a poral here

[lucid oyster]

So like is this the whole update or is more content coming on the 25th

[vivid sparrow]

brief question. i'm not playing this yet, but i have to know. please answer with a yes/no:
||did the unfortunate evolution get updated to have more significance or an "explanation"?||

[silver ravine]

dont think so

i gone through it and i saw nothing new

the devs did say that the region was complete anyways

[vivid sparrow]

alright no worries :p

[urban rover]

man why couldn't they just take the time to release the dlc in the state it is right now

[silver ravine]

theres still some bugs and stuff they have to fix or change

[urban rover]

no i meant like

in my opinion, 1.5 should've been 1.0

[silver ravine]

im pretty sure they had to release it early or something?

[urban rover]

yeah it released on april second, exactly 1 year after the trailer hit

so there was definintely some publisher funny business there

it's still a little frustrating though, it's a great DLC, but I don't wanna replay the whole thing to find a couple nuggets of new content and a new ending

from what i've seen the ending looks incredible too! so it's a real shame i wasn't able to experience it back when i was really into the DLC

[silver ravine]

||its just named dial, what is this, there was a portal from the "egg" rooms that brought me here. what is this. i dont like this. this honestly scares me||

[urban rover]

||could be some easter egg/arg stuff like the fez room in MSC||

[silver wedge]

hey so where the fuck am i supposed to go to get the new ending 😭 can someone like point me in the direction without totally spoiling me?

[silver ravine]

||there was also a room just called egg which had a unique ripple music with a single ripple spawn circleing it||

||which was above the portal that sent me here||

[silver wedge]

also ||seems like ST isnt in all the same spots as before unless im just stupid||

[silver ravine]

||st was moved around a bit||

[silver wedge]

||did the st in heat ducts get moved? i went to the bottom and st wasnt there xd||

[silver ravine]

||WHAT IS WORA_EGG AND DIAL, PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME, I ALREADY HAVE ALL 4 ENDINGS||

[silver wedge]

||theres 4?? 😭||

[silver ravine]

||yeah||

[silver wedge]

||i have no idea where to go for either of the new ones, any chance you could nudge me in the right direction for one (or both)?||

[silver ravine]

||the echo swaped places with the salination portal in heat ducts||

||the fourth ending you have get at the very end||

||for the third ending do you see how your portals become yellow after a while, thats important||

[silver wedge]

||by at the very end do you mean like all the other endings or like i have to make it to ancient urban?||

[silver ravine]

||when you get all other endings||

[silver wedge]

||makes sense, i guess i havent been in this save long enough to see my portals become yellow||

[silver wedge]

[torn harness]

guys

what are these

[short urchin]

real

[silver ravine]

At least a hint or something

[torn harness]

guys,what do i do at the areas with yellow things

[formal patio]

you found greeble!

[clear hill]

I JUST DID THE NEW ENDINGS AND HOLY SHIT

LEGIT IM LIKEEE on the verge of TEARS

thank you watcher devs

[thin mirage]

Are they self contained or tied to old Watcher endings?

[golden forge]

For some reason || The rift between Fractured Gateways and Badlands wont close up. I have no idea why and it's the only one left to even close ||

[clear hill]

(new creature spoiler) so about that leviathan whale mod i made

IM CRYING LAUGHING

HELP ME

AUUHHGHAHHHGHFLKADKFH

[thin mirage]

He nuzzled you 🥺

[echo marsh]

i watched 16 hours of rain world

im also braindead

[golden forge]

verified game files, didnt work. I'm either softlocked, or stupid

[desert trail]

saw the word "sea" and thought you are me lmfao

[golden forge]

you are me I am you

[desert trail]

some people seems to have "rift wont close" issue

[golden forge]

any fixes qwq

[clear hill]

sometimes overwriting it with a technically illegal but the game lets you do it anyway new portal in the same spot might fix it, but some are just not read and disposed of properly i think

me and bro were trying to figure out why that was for a bit

theyre working out 😭

why are these legss

[ancient seal]

I can't tell what I'm missing to get ||weaver ending||

pretty much my whole map is stitched besides some daemon warps

I haven't been to stormy coast though that might be it?

[jolly chasm]

2 sections of a spiral are filled with blue for me 👀

[jolly chasm]

I have no idea what's the criteria
It was empty, like in the screenshot, only thing that I've done is progress rot stuff

[meager musk]

||bell <3||

[desert trail]

ok rewinding those live streams and heard spinny's new sound effect
|| sounds less... "jungle monkey-bird" but a little "creepier" ||

shatterterrace LMFAO

[ancient seal]

nevermind apparantely coral caves -> rusted wrecks???

this area is so trippy what the hell

[short yoke]

Oh dang I just... ||got out of badlands and now I'm in a place with locusts AND frogs AND SAND WORMS?!? Oooooh! Sky whale!||

[desert trail]

regarding spinny
|| ..... so spinny's "..." dialogue doesnt get update?||

[short yoke]

||I got out and am fearing for my life more than ever||

[golden forge]

yeah no that didnt work sadly....

[clear hill]

what i had to do was manually tell the code not to run checks for that one room that was broken warp wise

so uh... if you know how to code a bit and use dnspy maybe you could get it to work like i did but bro and them will definitely try to find a solution quickly by the time of official release

not to be their pr team but i think it can be reasonably solved?

[wise fern]

As I've said, they were too busy adding nightmare fuel demons

[clear hill]

would those who are struggling with the ||weaver ending because of the lack of one or two broken warps|| like a mod to temporarily ease the pain?

i could write it real quick before i go to bed i suppose

[golden forge]

I would greatly appreciate that if you could do that

[clear hill]

ill see what i can do in a reasonable time frame

ive been playing rainworld for like 14 hours jeez

[thin mirage]

Is the ||milipede|| an unused creature, or was it just made for testing reasons and never even intended to appear?

[desert trail]

whos this referring to 😭

[lucid oyster]

It kinda looks like a joke, but also like I know jackshit about it other then Its appearance

Maybe it’s coming in the 25th to truly complete rainworld

[wise fern]

||Have you met... the anglerfish?||

[wise fern]

The true final boss

[desert trail]

i thought they were kinda cute
ok but im kinda dissapointed spinny dialogue update is a no

[willow dirge]

how is it going for people finding the new ending(s? There seem to be 4 in total?)

[clear hill]

yes

i got them all in one day

im not insane i swear

(i dev tooled and warped because god if i was gonna spent 15 hours on that hell no)

i did take the new content at a good pace

very yummy

[golden forge]

I beat the first 2 endings in like 12 hours. I WOULD be able to do that for the two new ones, but I got life now

and the whole bug thats happening

[clear hill]

yeah thats legit my situation too

i was like "oh man i have 2 days off imma work on some proj- oh... a beta... branch?"

BOOM

bye productive time LOOL

[humble geyser]

is there a bug reporter or should I just put them here?

[clear hill]

#1019653041982537879 is better for long term imo

[humble geyser]

well I mean to inform the devs

[clear hill]

depends, theyve gotten lots of reports about the broken warps and some broken room visuals already

[humble geyser]

I have one bug that likely will get missed otherwise since it only happens if reduced screen shaking is off

and idk how many people have that off

[clear hill]

oh?

[humble geyser]

||if a digging lizard pops out too close to terrain, the screen shake does not stop until you sleep that cycle||

very big screen shake warning

||I had to go all the way to the shelter before the echo like this||

[short urchin]

if you know exactly what the bug is in the code then I can toss in a fix very quickly

[modest talon]

Hey I am seeing several new signifier things on the map. There are feathers over a few areas and a gold ring around one. Are either of these Spinning Top or are they both new things?

[formal drift]

The shaking has been mentioned here a few times, interesting seeing the cause

[humble geyser]

idk what the cause in the code is

it has just happened twice and both times when a digging lizard was in the room

[short urchin]

well, #1019653041982537879 is always a good place to keep track of those things then

[humble geyser]

anyway goodnight, more watching tomorrow, hopefully the "5 minutes after you close the game for the night realization that you were doing everything in the worst way possible" moment that seems to always happen with rain world will help me get the ending I was working towards

[modest talon]

Any insight from anyone?

[humble geyser]

I figured out why ||the weaver kept appearing and disappearing|| so now I can hopefully use that to speed up the process

||instead of randomly wandering until I happen to be in the right place at the right time (when I am the one choosing the place and time)||

[fallow fjord]

anyone else getting an error where map data is entirely missing

this is my sleep/death screen lol

[crisp cloud]

||just finished weaver quest WHAT THE FUCK VIDEOCULT!!!!!||

!!!

||WHAT DOES THIS MEAN oh my god bruh||

[short urchin]

I've seen a few reports of this issue

have you seen any new content btw? sometimes it seems to pop up with an incorrect install

[clear hill]

its possible you might be missing an asset or something like i was, how did you install the beta branch? did you uninstall downpour and watcher as well?

LOL

same braincell

i took the time to make a 2 second thumbnail for this mod which will be obsolete in hopefully a weeks time

[fallow fjord]

i went and entered the code through the betas and updated, have nothing else enabled but watcher, ran a file validity check twice

[golden forge]

is this the rift bug fix

[clear hill]

yeah

[short urchin]

you also need to uncheck the DLCs here to uninstall them

otherwise the released version of the DLCs will override the ones that are on the early access beta

[fallow fjord]

ahhh so leave neither of them installed?

[short urchin]

I don't think Downpour was changed so that one might be fine, but it's safer to uninstall both of them, yes

[fallow fjord]

sounds good, tysm

[hard swift]

this is a cute little??? whatever its called

[formal drift]

Even with the link and a reminder message people still be rushing to get into it lol

[wise fern]

||The weavers eyes do seem to be rhe same shape as like the ones void Worms have, and I mean, it is a worm||

[crisp cloud]

||not even mentioning the shit that happens after the ending. what 😭||

||VOID WORM BLAST!!||

[wise fern]

||This is the power of jaundice||

[crisp cloud]

||Jaundice really just does anything huh||

[wise fern]

||Did the void weaver ever really elaborated on what the hell it was? I doubt it. Just some strange creature beyond the veil||

[crisp cloud]

||Has same effect as echo when its approached.. after convo blasts a yellow light similar to the void sea||

||???? something||

[wise fern]

||I feel it has to be something like void worm adjacent at least. I mean, it's got the same face, is a worm with tendrils, you know||

[thin mirage]

Is it possibly a ||baby void worm||?

[crisp cloud]

||Theres also like ten billion daemons ?? One for each universe||

[ancient seal]

anyone figured out what the ||weird square room in pillar grove|| does?

[crisp cloud]

nah

[clear hill]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3573808516 @golden forge can you check if this works for you, the idea is the mod will log the warps you make each rainworld session that are logged as "needing to be fulfilled, but you are also in the room to fulfill" when it checks for a certain thing

so to test, try going through the invalid warps that are breaking and see if this mod helps at all (it has to be during one session of having rainworld open is the only prerequisite, i dont think this could cause sequence breaking but it is very much a bandaid fix lol)

ima go to bed for now but ill make a more official mod post tomorrow in the thread if it does help

[golden forge]

[clear hill]

if you want more details on the warps the mod is considering, check out the consolelog.txt which you can find in the base path install of your rainworld (theres a way to access it through steam if you dont know how)

but guud luck

and goodnite

[crisp cloud]

||Doesn't even really resemble a Void worm outside of the shape. Very short, lots of feathers, none of those weird arms that they have. Face is black and eyes white..||

[wise fern]

||Yeah, I think it's some kind of relative rather than a actual void worm directly||

[crisp cloud]

||It FEELS like something akin to a Void Worm, yet it seems to be something outside of the Void sea||

[hard swift]

WOAH

[crisp cloud]

||Probably has a relation..||

[real condor]

hollup did yall get early access to 1.5?

[golden forge]

It did nothing. I can send logs if needed btw
What i think is happening is that theres no portal node or the node is broken. It teleports me, gets me to the region, but dosent close. I sleep in a shelter and the portal is gone. Hopefully this helps

[clear hill]

indeed, arg related of course

[crisp cloud]

||Not even accounting for the OTHER ending, which is still mysterious as shit and probably involves those voidspawn you free||

||Daemon is so confusing dude||

[clear hill]

yeah can you send the consolelog? heres the path- (ignore the other stuff lol)

;allthelogs

[teal tulip]

Close the game and upload all of the following, if they exist. Paths with a standard Steam installation provided:

• 'exceptionLog.txt' - Inform if it does not exist. C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World\
• 'consoleLog.txt' C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World\
• 'LogOutput.log' C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World\BepInEx\
• 'crsLog.txt' - Only appears if you have Custom Regions Support installed & enabled. C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World\RainWorld_Data\StreamingAssets\
  To send the files, drag and drop them into the Discord window. Do not copy and paste the contents of the files.

[real condor]

so many args brooo im jelly

[clear hill]

i actually love how all of the arg elements have wrapped back around in some way

its very fulfilling after what seemed like frustrating dead ends

[golden forge]

Here you go. Good luck

[clear hill]

if you care for warp spoilers, youre missing ||wbla_d03||

which is... uhhh idk watcher acronyms lmao

oh ||badlands||

[real condor]

is 1.5 good yall

[crisp cloud]

has some bugs and YES IT IS

[clear hill]

so fucking peak i genuinely cant wait to see the impact it has

[crisp cloud]

goodnesssss

[golden forge]

yeah... I knew that. I just wanna get the ending

[crisp cloud]

watcher loreheads will explode\

[real condor]

I KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE PEAK

[crisp cloud]

cause theres so much crazy stuff

[real condor]

i cant wait to play AAH

[clear hill]

gweh ok i said night but can i ask for your watcher save so i can test, i already got the endings sooo....

do you know where they're located?

[crisp cloud]

which one was crazier

[golden forge]

i do not..

[crisp cloud]

weaver or the mysterious one

[clear hill]

appdata/locallow/videocult/rainworld

best file path

[wise fern]

||Daemon - a background process that handles requests for services such as print spooling and file transfers, and is dormant when not required.||

[clear hill]

the more lucrative one nearly made me cry so i think that just for the vibes

[wise fern]

||Daemon defiently feels like the universes background process||

[clear hill]

oh this, and the sav# file where the number is the current save slot btw @golden forge

[crisp cloud]

||So it is still some in between dimension for void related beings to use? Even Watcher can access it (though not really use) . Plus through the weaver ending we can see all of the universes/threads there||

||Actually. just threads and ripples. as each daemon appears to represent a different universe?||

[clear hill]

WAIT if you dont want to go through the trouble though i just remembered i sent bro my save file from earlier when i was having the same exact problem

i got this

oh ty

[wise fern]

||I'm pretty sure the voidspawn are just there to guide new players towards portals, I don't think they actually are involved in the ending at all||

[devout laurel]

guys I have the ||yellow tail thing|| what do I do now

[wise fern]

||Jaundice has claimed another||

[crisp cloud]

||hmm. idk||

||i havent gotten the other ending yet cause idk how LOL||

[devout laurel]

true

[crisp cloud]

||so im not qualified for this||

[wise fern]

||From all I've heard, the second ending has something to do inside of Daemon||

[devout laurel]

how many new endings are in the beta?

[crisp cloud]

2

[clear hill]

if yall want a hint on the more elusive ending ||it does involve the other endings||

[devout laurel]

oh

how get first plz

[crisp cloud]

||all of the other endings?||

[clear hill]

yes

[crisp cloud]

goodness gracious

[peak hatch]

||i've been told you only need to hatch prince, not get his ending||

[crisp cloud]

hmmm

[clear hill]

that might be true ||but i think the code explictly checks for all 3||

[crisp cloud]

||spinning top -> hatch prince -> weaver -> what||

[clear hill]

i figure out my lore through DATAMINING /silly

[peak hatch]

||that would be a bit stupid considering you|| (lategame new quest) ||get locked out of prince ending through weaver questline||

[wise fern]

||Weaver quest does make the Prince quest impossible to complete once started||

[clear hill]

i think they could introduce an alterative way to spread rot i suppose (or maybe there is and i just dunno it)

go my rot loach

[crisp cloud]

||so it's probably better to just hatch prince then go do weaver things||

[wise fern]

||I think you just got to keep finding Weaver||

[crisp cloud]

||not really sure about what happens after||

[devout laurel]

ez

[wise fern]

||Prince does have new dialogue like when he sees you after getting jaundice||

[peak hatch]

(details about quest) ||i have been running around the map closing portals for like 3 hours and the guy hasn't shown up since i got the Scary Aura||

||i think you literally have to delete all portals||

[devout laurel]

prince said I have grown

[devout laurel]

how do you delete portals

[peak hatch]

||you start doing it automatically after the 4th weaver encounter||

[devout laurel]

k im almost there

[clear hill]

@golden forge check the new update (unsub and resub to the mod), i forgot to do string to lower checks it works from the badlands side specifically because trying to warp from the other region just brings you to badlands, but not the room the warp was originally from

at least if you know where one end of the portal leads, one end will eventually get it off your list

ok goodnite for real chat

[golden forge]

gn

[crisp cloud]

gn

[golden forge]

IT WORKED

tysm

[desert trail]

woahh... gold scavs
|| did gold scavs got a little visual update? they got little gold bit on their scav antler now?||

[golden forge]

can someone give me a hint for how to get started on the 4th ending?

[wise fern]

||Obelisk||

[crisp cloud]

scroll up

[desert trail]

watching daszombes stream and lol just what looks to be dev tool + mouse drag 😭

or just dev tool itself

“im not spending 45 minutes holding left in outer rim" lmao

[golden forge]

real as hell though

[desert trail]

he did said if its new he will explore it properly but not much changed so he NYOOOOOOOM thru the screen with dev tool lol

also that was 6 hours into his stream

poor watcher getting YOINKED AROUND

oh huh, restart cycle (dev tool) still take u thru the same manual rift destination now

[stark hemlock]

did they add Passaging to the watcher campaign

[desert trail]

is this the seed thing moth mentioned?

[desert trail]

no

😭 daszombes yoinking watcher around in the throne

[split crag]

Why isn't the portal opening

[young ether]

this happened to me a lot, I couldn't find anything except to reset the cycle :(

[desert trail]

daz also have the same issue

[split crag]

Thankfully there is karma flowers i daemon. This would be horrible anywhere else.

[young ether]

all pearl dialogues and locations:
||https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IuIwLv7Y2J-EPhHgSwwGPCgdnzJ16YsK?usp=sharing (they be jammin out a bit)||

[wise fern]

||The first one... the YAN FLIES TEXT WAS PEARL DIALOGUE ALL ALONG?||

[desert trail]

oh i see the jaundice now lmao

[crisp cloud]

bonemeal brick ?? 😭

[young ether]

they a little strange

[desert trail]

||counselor's consort , wao||

[crisp cloud]

imlaughing my ass off omhg

[desert trail]

i love it god ||pearl puter is REAL ||

[desert trail]

i cant fucking believe ||the ominous af "you left then, but you did not do what you promised me." just lead to RAINWORLD EA NASIR||

[young ether]

||it's literally that Complaint tablet to Ea-nāṣir about copper lmao||

[young ether]

lmfao jinx

also, shoutout ||k-mart|| (dialogue)

[desert trail]

i saw someone mention ea nasir and i was like huh then turns out ||brick producer/seller ea nasir||

[wise fern]

So the pearls are just bennie personal drama

[split crag]

This is still happening, do I just have to use a warp mod or are there other fixes.

[crisp cloud]

||star energies???||

[desert trail]

also what the fuck the ||pearl puter has a ARM CATCHING THE PEARL?||

[crisp cloud]

||OUTER RIM LORE ?"||

[young ether]

yeah lol, I threw all of them as far as I could get it to reach

[wise fern]

||STAR ENERGIES||

[crisp cloud]

||"to trust our Blessed futures to esoteric Energies and Fields..."||

huh

||Also mentions falling dust...||

[desert trail]

honestly i do love the addition of ||pearl puter, you get to read them raw text without iterator's opinion. while having their opinion is great too i also like this option||

[crisp cloud]

||WAIT ARE SOME OF THE PEARLS JUST FIRE BEATS FROM THE BENNIES ??||

[young ether]

Yea

||They been jamming out||

[crisp cloud]

||i think the ones with the green lines are that||

[young ether]

||A couple I believe are just dialogue, not music and not intelligble||

[crisp cloud]

oh hmmm

yeah it is

||ITERATOR MENTION ?||

[young ether]

Yeahhhh

||Bell of gesture, like the song||

[crisp cloud]

HUH

||also i like the little bell that plays at the end of this pearl||

[desert trail]

||i got to the picture of iterator puppet and what seems to be building-in-progress iterator structure photo, is that Bell of Gesture?||

[crisp cloud]

||assuming this is an iterator "showcase" considering the bennie is named "host"||

[young ether]

No clue honestly

I'm not actually a lore aficionado lmao, I just wanted to get the dialogues

[desert trail]

ok even if its not the same one, on that pearl tho ||that means the iterator pupept is fully designed and named while construction is underway, how interesting||

[crisp cloud]

||iterator structure in progress?||

||this is so cool dude||

[wise fern]

||IS THAT THE FUCKING DRONE FROM ARTIFICER IN THE WPTA PEARL||

[desert trail]

yea this is what im talking about, well dasz thinks its ||in the progress of being build, you can see the internal||
tho ||at first glance i thought its aether ridge LOL||

[crisp cloud]

||this is like seeing the birth of jesus christ||

||welll iterators are "gods" in a sense||

[somber token]

should i play this on a new save or on my completed one?

[crisp cloud]

new save is the best option

[wise fern]

Like that's literally her drone

[somber token]

ok thanks

[desert trail]

oh my god thats just music jams

this is so funny

[wise fern]

Like I'm crazy or is that artificer drone

[crisp cloud]

some are just benefactor dialouge. others are just fire beats 🔥

[desert trail]

holy shit we really are getting lore

[wise fern]

This is gonna be crazy once it hits main watcher lore

[devout laurel]

yea

[wise fern]

Artificer drone... in Watcher

[desert trail]

the fucking CHIMES LOL WHATS THIS

its like those school announcement system (or airport but this feels more... school-y)

so cute ngl

[crisp cloud]

||really interesting to see the evolution of the benefactor's ideas. mentioning the "spiral" that's often used||

[desert trail]

im choosing to believe in chevkov gun so... ||the pic of a blue iterator puppet + buiild in progress iterator as well as Bell of Gesture could very well be the same one, that iteratorr can is build nearby and is probably where people in this surface city (ancient urban) will migrate to when the rain gets unbearable?||

[crisp cloud]

WOAH MAMA
||this is labeled starcatcher in the google drive||

[wise fern]

||STAR ENERGY||

[crisp cloud]

might just be a standard drone model

[hard swift]

how ominously ominous

[crisp cloud]

but the king scav does have a different one so.

[upbeat kestrel]

anybody know how to pass this part in Badlands

[wise fern]

I mean more the fact the drone exists at all being confirmed

Since you know, the design is a downpour original at least as far as I know

[wise fern]

||I wonder what can be done with this strange thing||

[crisp cloud]

||OHHH||

||i think i just realised something||

what the fuck?

😭 ??

[wise fern]

Which one is this

[crisp cloud]

dis pearl

[short yoke]

I’m uh ||not sure what to do with anglers, I would make a hide in a locker joke, but… for now I’ve just stayed above them on platforms while the red light goes off||

[upbeat kestrel]

like how am i supposed to pass this

[wise fern]

What's the file in the Google doc

[upbeat kestrel]

this is so insanely long

[crisp cloud]

wskc_a30.mp4

[wise fern]

I wish we had Moon to explain wtf I just saw

[crisp cloud]

||also the last one in the drive has this funny ad||

||the crystal pillar beckons you......||

[wise fern]

Yan fruit

[crisp cloud]

yan...flies

[wise fern]

So I guess yan flies are just fruit flies

[crisp cloud]

||Also Yan flies are mentioned||

in the first porl

[wise fern]

Remember when we all thought this was gonna be dialogue from a new character

And it turned out to just be pearl dialogue

[crisp cloud]

and that one ominous line too

||actually came from fucking rain world ea nasir 😭||

[wise fern]

I feel that we may have been trolled a bit

[crisp cloud]

also what the hell is a ||flavored vat..?||

[wise fern]

Maybe you bath in flavoured juice in the vat?

[crisp cloud]

This is a pretty big supermarket

||Alot of this seems to be pretty spiritual anyways||

[wise fern]

This is still the peak one

[crisp cloud]

yess

||so we actually have a vague explanation for the starcatchers now? awesome||

[wise fern]

Also it seems that the Outer Rim people were at least bennie adjacent considering they used pearls and speak in a very similar way

[crisp cloud]

||this pearl is from outer rim right?||

||let me check||

[young ether]

The file names are the pearl rooms if you wanna grab them yourself

[crisp cloud]

oh yeah it is

[young ether]

||Warp menu + dev console "the_mark" command to give mark and you can check any of these||

[crisp cloud]

||wonder how you get the mark naturally tho||

[young ether]

Do you want to know?

[wise fern]

I know, but I won't tell for spoiler reasons

[crisp cloud]

yes

cause i have a feeling i know already

[young ether]

||Rot prince gives it to you near the end||

||As a final gift||

[crisp cloud]

awesome

||ignoring rot prince mark having insane implications these pearls are super nice||

||alot arent super lore heavy but they give us a really nice perspective on the bennies and other fellows||

[wise fern]

||I mean, he is at least partially a Iterator or at least based around them, so it makes sense he'd have their abilities somewhat||

[crisp cloud]

||*outer rim guys||

[wise fern]

||It also shows they had trade and trade disagreements||

[desert trail]

still watching daszombe's stream and wuhhhhhhhhhhh

||so after the weaver ending the game start to teleport you unprompted?? and eventually took dasz to outerrim which is "brighter" and then... ||

[crisp cloud]

man i really need to ponder weaver

[wise fern]

||It's a beautiful view, is it not?||

[crisp cloud]

theres so many Insane lore implications

dude

[desert trail]

just got here and WOAH

[desert trail]

CRAZY MAN
aND AFTER THAT ITS THE ||MARK GRANTING THING||
ALSO PRINCE... STILL SO POLITE AND LOVELY 🥹

[wise fern]

A strange creature

[crisp cloud]

||also how do you even go back to ancient urban after prince gives you the mark||

[young ether]

||Daemon||

[wise fern]

||I do love Das reaction to Prince's dialogue as bro is yapping about the "alpha and the omega" and how the "endgame is upon us"||

[young ether]

||Left side will always lead to shattered||

[crisp cloud]

||ah i see||

[desert trail]

post-prince gift ||so the sending to here is automated including the walking? ||

[wise fern]

||Why the hell does Weaver send us to a windows background ass place||

[crisp cloud]

||is that area 3D or am i tweaking 😭 ||

[wise fern]

What is the area even called

[crisp cloud]

||how did they pull this off in 6 months 🥹 ||

[cunning sonnet]

Wait you can reach outer rim with the weaver effect

[crisp cloud]

its so peak.......

[young ether]

Most of this had probably been in dev for longer than that

[cunning sonnet]

going through a pre made portal

[crisp cloud]

true

[desert trail]

dasz: what the... fuck?
me: 😨

[young ether]

Code infrastructure existed for a lot of the new stuff

[desert trail]

well consider that in ripple trailer ||the "consider" thing was from weaver after all, so its all wip they just arent ready to ship||

[wise fern]

||Honestly Daz managing to do more than UraniumEater is quite funny, especially since UraniumEater was like "if you want to see someone good at the game, watch Das"||

||Our bingo is still ruined by the weaver||

[crisp cloud]

||uraniumeater stream is 12 hours!??!||

[wise fern]

||So much good stuff was tied on it being a bird, spider or echo||

[desert trail]

wait u did the bingo i made or someone else's

[wise fern]

I haven't done the bingo personally

[desert trail]

yea from the first time they both stream playing i already figure out dasz is just very good at moving thru the game

uranium eater take their sweet ass time inspecting everything tho

dif flavor of stuff

[wise fern]

UraniumEater hyperfixating on a random piece of graffiti that likely has no lore implications

[desert trail]

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT CUTSCENE

like yo what the fuck

[crisp cloud]

uraniumEaterr is a watcher lorehead

[desert trail]

how is this still rainworld?

????????????????????????????

[crisp cloud]

so is das but not to that extent

[desert trail]

why r u wording it as if dasz didnt made multiple video on lore ☠️

[young ether]

||3d ish cutscene moment||

[desert trail]

IT DOESNT FEEL RAINWORLD ITS ABSURD MAN

GOD

ITS STILL SO DREAM-LIKE

HOLY HELL

[wise fern]

It was also funny seeing Daz address the fact he'd known as John Misconception

[desert trail]

😭

[crisp cloud]

john weaver, make rainworld watcher lore 10x more crazy

[desert trail]

HOLY SHIT (ending spoiler)
oh wao ||SO THIS IS WHERE THE ART OF FRACTURED WATCHER COME FROM WAOOOOOOOOOOOO||
(pic below)

[crisp cloud]

WAHOO!!!!!!

[wise fern]

Did you forget to spoiler the image

[desert trail]

HOLY SHIT (head blown)

wait i didnt?

[desert trail]

spoiler tag 😭

[wise fern]

It didn't seem spoilered to me

[desert trail]

i usually immediately tap unspoiler once i sent it so i cant tell but lets play it safe

[crisp cloud]

||ughhh still no survivor mention 😔 though to be fair i think survivor is meant to represent the whole of vanilla and how watcher parellels it||

not sure

[desert trail]

oh yea i agree tho, like i can see how it is that way

[upbeat kestrel]

does anybody know please

[crisp cloud]

that one desolate tract room that drove me crazy because it looks like that one part of industrial

[desert trail]

lol dasz's chat nooone spell (something) correctly is funny

[crisp cloud]

dude

[desert trail]

sorry, (if this was for me)

[crisp cloud]

no no it wasnt

[wise fern]

Just spoiler text everything

[crisp cloud]

it was for this

[wise fern]

Make it look like a scp doc

[desert trail]

SJAFHJKSAHJFA

lmao </3 dasz || didnt know why prince gift is for... i think its for going for lores before u move on to the final bit of weaver ending huh ||

this looks insane wao

[devout drift]

I took way too long to find out the most stupid basic thing ever because I kept fooling around

[desert trail]

"you ask james what he's doing he say he wants freedom" this is rainworld watcher

[devout drift]

Has anyone figured out what ||graffiti bombs|| are useful for besides ||getting a little paint on things||

[bright terrace]

||used for the locusts, fairly sure they’re indigo spit.||

[crisp cloud]

||throw on lizor?||

[devout drift]

Also I saw above that someone said UraniumEater is rly taking their time and that's how I've been

[crisp cloud]

what will happen

[devout drift]

||I guess that makes sense, but I've only seen them spawn in Fetid Glen, which is. Very Locust Free||

[devout drift]

||Tried that. Doesn't do anything but put some paint on them.||

[bright terrace]

||Yeah i don’t know why they do that <//3 unless indigo spit has some new interaction there||

[devout drift]

||Maybe... No idea. I can't wait to play more tomorrow but it genuinely took me way too long to figure out that void Weaver's strings were meant to be followed a certain way bc the first time I saw them I followed them and then they just Ended.||

||Now my only confusion on them is if they're in new regions at all, and also if they keep reappearing in already visited areas? Because those areas still have feathers on them.||

[desert trail]

normal gameplay wise ofc we should take our time but dasz is treating this more like a let's play lol

[devout drift]

Not sure what the difference is

Not to mention I'm not a huuge fan of dasz' stuff usually

Tell me, is there anything I'm missing out on by having started this from an old save?

[crisp cloud]

ehh

From what i've heard new creature spawns might be funky

[devout drift]

Makes sense...

Due to just how creature spawns work an all

Which old regions have new creatures?

[crisp cloud]

coral caves has a new one.. salination too

[bright terrace]

Salination, Turbulent Pump, I believeee coral caves? Shrouded Coast

That’s all the ones I can think of off the top of my head

[crisp cloud]

all the other fellows are apart of new regions

[desert trail]

man (thoughts on the ending)
||the full? weaver ending where watcher swims downward and tuurn into a cross between echo, voidworm and yellow sunflower glowy head is just insane? maybe its real when people ask is this the "true" ending i feel like it might as well be. the black tendrils of an echo, the long body of void worm and the lines (weaver also), and the glowy sunflower head (in yellow), wao, you are a combinations of all your friends you met on your journey... how they shaped you.... ||

[bright terrace]

||YOU GET IT||

||I think the fact that all the other void worms are distant and the depths is more built up somewhat implies watcher grows to be the void worm that ferries the other slugcats down to ascension. Which is my own interp that I’m rocking with.|| ending spoilers

||ofcccccc that kinda messes up its appearance but it’s ok i cope! I cope!||

[crisp cloud]

||Personally i take it more metaphorically, the watcher gains an "understanding" of the world, as said by weaver. And it travels through places it knew, including outer expanse which is where i assume the first cutscene took place. The depths represents Watcher "maturing" and becoming an adult, therefore the ost "childhood's end" playing||

cant believe ||jaundice|| did this

[bright terrace]

||I do agree with that as well! I think it means multiple things— ofc my interp is heavily just based in hc but I do think that is the main intent is the thing you describe||

[crisp cloud]

||i do like your interpretation as well.. but also for me i just think "omg watcher got a job "||

[thin mirage]

So stupid idea, but the way you describe it, it sounds like the Watcher might've ||broken the cycle and become a creature of its own kind, unlike any other||?

A one-of-a-kind?

[bright terrace]

||I can’t believe I literally clocked it months ago though I’m still reeling a bit from it||
Ending spoilers continues

[desert trail]

well, possibly

[crisp cloud]

my goat the watcher

🔥

[thin mirage]

Now we need an epic ||Watcher vs Saint battle to determine the fate of the sluggyverse||.

[desert trail]

(ending spoilers)
thing is ||the defauly void worms are like what, white isnt it? with a none-glowy head thats very small and long, watcher is so oddly long, black with gold stripes (like echo/weaver), the tendrils are also more echo likes ||

[desert trail]

LMFAO

ok so now my real question

wheree sscav pope

[thin mirage]

Could this possibly explain Prince's weird rot leviathan pet somehow?

[desert trail]

noone explored the fact gold scavies got a visual update

[crisp cloud]

||i also really enjoy this interpretation because watcher has stopped just being an onlooker...!! my boy is maturing..||

||i guess you could also use that in my interpretation..? but i think it works better in yours||

||Even then weaver ending feels like the watcher taking responsibility, taking action by sealing up the rifts||

I would also touch on the ||other ending|| but i have no idea what that one is about

[bright terrace]

||YOU GET IT!!!! I said this prior but Watcher learning to move on in the spinning top ending -> (in a metaphorical sense) learning to heal and gain responsibility in the weaver ending -> and then using that good and new understanding for the aid of others in the final ending is why I interpret it as such!!!||

[desert trail]

idk man i feel emotional about it, the ending spoiler stuff || watcher become a being shaped and influenced by all the friends they met||

[desert trail]

they did say, endings,theres at least 2

if we know one of them is this

whats the other one

[crisp cloud]

yess

ripplespawn thing apparently. honestly do not know

Involves the 3 endings and also an "obelisk"

[thin mirage]

So, does this mean that Prince is irrelevant to the story?

[bright terrace]

||IT IS SO!!! It’s so everything this dlc is everything||

[bright terrace]

||no????? Prince is relevant to the story but I’m specifically talking about a chain of events that Prince is a part of between the ST and weaver ending. Prince is a part of that responsibility thing, you close the ripples that help it spread even if it means no malicious intent.||

[desert trail]

no not really, i think ||prince still give us a very interesting aspect of the world, the lore of "rot" itself (as not-cancer), as well as how in the end prince is so incredibly kind and nice? as well as the gift :D ||

[crisp cloud]

||prince definitely has relevance LOL 😓 alot of prince touches more on watcher's loneliness through the prince's absolute JOY at the idea of companionship through the watcher. its pretty implied that prince was isolated for most of his life. like watcher !||

joyyyyy

parellels are so cool and awesome guys

[bright terrace]

YES YOU GET IT

[desert trail]

i actually havent seen ||john weaver's other dialogue other than the "consider, ripple" one, so idk whats their personality ||

[thin mirage]

I am dumb, and haven't played the update yes

[crisp cloud]

no worries

[bright terrace]

OH NO DW trust me Prince is VERY relevant

I was just describing a specific line of events that Prince is a part of and just kinda forgot to mention it’s 4am where I’m at

[thin mirage]

I am still not 100% sure what the rot is.

I am pretty sure it's some kind of karmic imbalance given form?

[crisp cloud]

||also relating to weaver ending. while prince doesn't have much relevance i do think about that one line, "perhaps we aren't so different afterall" or something like that. I know its probably referring to the iterators but i like to imagine its about the watcher too. and we could make a connection with all three..

Iterators, Prince and Watcher are all godlike beings that are indescribably lonely..||

[bright terrace]

YES OH MY GOD YOU GET IT SO MUCH!!!! I swear that line has double meaning but I couldn’t pinpoint where

[crisp cloud]

||even iterators seek companionship ! they do it alot through the iterator group chats lol||

[desert trail]

honestly while im inclined to believe ||its referring to iterator, but who is to say it cant also be about watcher as a weaver tail now? ||

[thin mirage]

So you're telling me that this whole plot could've been avoided ||if the Prince had Discord||?

[bright terrace]

Prince social media <3

[crisp cloud]

Starcatchers dont have discord

[bright terrace]

Prince would be an emoji overuser it’d use the fuckin uhh hold on

Those like super sparkly ‘GOOD MORNING’ gifs

[crisp cloud]

You know that one image of the drooling emoji but with really big fucking eyes that are sparkly

🤤 but big sparkly eyes

[bright terrace]

YES…

[crisp cloud]

looks very stupid too

[thin mirage]

✨ Good Morning ✨
✨ Rise and shine 🥰 🌻🌻 🌻

[desert trail]

i have a stupid theory (lore stuff) || assuming chevkov gun literary device thingamabop,. what if bell of gesture (which is a brand new iterator we seen), is the iterator that prince end up consuming? ||

[crisp cloud]

it'd be funny

||But Outer Rim doesn't exactly have iterators.. plus that pearl mentioning bell of gesture isn't found in outer rim||

[desert trail]

the remnants could have been one

[crisp cloud]

😭

akin to this

WAIT I FOUND IT

[naive nebula]

My son would not say this.

LOLLL

[crisp cloud]

@bright terrace this is what i was referring to about the emoji

[crisp cloud]

😢

[naive nebula]

i would disown him if he posted that emoji

[desert trail]

lmao

[naive nebula]

Back to the unconscious with you!

[thin mirage]

Did miros vultures return?

[crisp cloud]

Don't think so

[thin mirage]

They're like the one Downpour creature which is absent in Watcher 1

[wise fern]

||I think the tendrils are more like the tendrils actual void Worms have than that of a echo||

[desert trail]

||void worm has tendrils?||

[wise fern]

Yeah

[desert trail]

:v

[thin mirage]

Is the similarity between leviathans and void worms explained?

[wise fern]

||They have the same kind of tendrils that drag behind them as leviathans||

[desert trail]

also relistening to (lore) ||bell of gesture radio thing, bell of gesture's "noise" is so splatoon like its comedic lol, it sounds almost exactly like one of the splat3 shop npc ||

[thin mirage]

Do you have video of it?

[desert trail]

its in the g drive

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IuIwLv7Y2J-EPhHgSwwGPCgdnzJ16YsK

[wise fern]

||So yeah, I think watchers form in the end is basically just a small void worm aside from colours being watcher||

[crisp cloud]

like sausage

[wise fern]

||Even including the light around the head considering void Worms also have a light consistently around their head||

||The godlet's journey has finally reached its end||

[desert trail]

regarding the "drone" ||the pearl content seems like either advertisement or blue print (its also a little splatoon-y with the undecipherable language), considering ancient urban is pre-iterator city, the id drones could have been in progress of being made either as a floaty cellphone device or in progress of making as id drone for future iterator city ||

[crisp cloud]

||blue print probably||

i wonder where its found

[wise fern]

||This does open a lot of questions about void Worms...||

[desert trail]

wao lore
||bennies currency thingy||

[wise fern]

||I can't believe void Worms are just the result of severe jaundice||

[desert trail]

and i watched all of them

[crisp cloud]

||ok well idk even know if voidworms are ascended ancients/bennies or not can someone tell 🥹||

[wise fern]

||I assume watcher being turned into a void worm is a special case||

||Probably the result of weaver giving them jaundice||

[wise fern]

||There's apparently some side quests still to do, like something to do with a spiral?||

[crisp cloud]

||ominous outer rim obelisk||

[wise fern]

So yeah. That sounds interesting, wonder what that's about

[crisp cloud]

more loreeee

||No one has really got it so we haven't unpacked it much||

[desert trail]

wheres scav pope

[proper scroll]

||what do I do when I can’t find the weaver anymore?||

[wise fern]

I doubt they exist

[desert trail]

MY SACV POPE

tempted to change my name to scav pope dream is dead like urs now

[fallow fjord]

are there supposed to be scavs in the rim

i am pretty sure these freaks should not be here

[wise fern]

They've been there since og watcher release

[fallow fjord]

warping in from daemon to rim puts me in a hella broken room full of scavs

oh dang

[wise fern]

Do it

[fallow fjord]

i thought it was some vestigial changes from the time i had scavenger gardens downloaded

glad its just a normal bug then ig

[desert trail]

I closed pc so tonight mayb

[wise fern]

I still can't believe the dialogue we were hyping so much was pearl dialogue

||Also something about having a Iterator in one of the new pearls refer to the benefactors directly as well, the benefactors feels kinda wild||

[cunning sonnet]

I have just witnessed Cinema

I cannot wait for others to see this

[smoky sandal]

Where can one get the mark of communication

[cunning sonnet]

one must first understand

||ending 4||

[wise fern]

||Ending 4 is peak,||

[crisp cloud]

||will john ending 4 jumpscare my youtube page?||

[wise fern]

John Weaver is far more likely to do so

[crisp cloud]

||also can someone like surmarise ending 4 or something im too lazy to get it||

||maybe give a picture||

||hhhhgggk||

[wise fern]

||Watcher gets sent to the depths and when they tru to asvend, gets thrned into a small void worm. I'm not joking||

Watch daszombes stream and skip to near the end if you want to see it

[rain niche]

Feel a bit stuck. Would appreciate some advice. ||Doing the closing the portals thing and now when I teleport to random regions it only teleports me to fetid glen and badlands, but I feel like I've visited all the portals in them already. Can anyone tell me what portals I might be missing. For badlands I've been in 3 portals (New region all the way to the left - weird that this one doesn't close when you go through it, one in the middle, and daemon one.). For Fetid glen I've been in 2 portals (Salination one all the way to the right, and shattered Terrace all the way to the left - this one doesn't close for some reason when you go through it.)||

[crisp cloud]

||oh thats ending 4 !!!??||

||is ending 3 just the normal weaver ending then||

||ohh im so stupid i thought it was apart of the normal weaver ending||

||and i've been discussing it this whole time... ||

[turbid fox]

Spoiler for Watcher 1.5 ||the new region fractured gateways is future verdant waterways||

[crisp cloud]

oh yeah

[turbid fox]

||and i think that badlands is the same as FG on the timeline||

[crisp cloud]

||i think its super cooll||

||I think of migration path too. Wonder where it leads?||

[turbid fox]

||it automatically became my favorite region when i saw it||

[crisp cloud]

||Especially cause theres coral cave creatures there, such as the peach lizards and barnacles||

[turbid fox]

||wait peach lizard? Can you send a photo?||

[turbid fox]

||cool, what does it do||

[crisp cloud]

||essentially og coral caves had these guys called polliwogs and i assume this is just watcher's replacement||

[turbid fox]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THATS SO COOL

||i loved polliwogs||

[crisp cloud]

||they have a boomerang head and appear to be very stupid||

[turbid fox]

Like me ❤️‍🩹

[strange osprey]

is there a list of regions where the echo appears?

[crisp cloud]

||i think in dasz's stream he kept throwing rocks at them and they just stood still💔||

[strange osprey]

also, do i need to go to something else before finding any echo?

i mean stuff like aether ridge where i need a certain ripple level

[crisp cloud]

Nah you dont

Even the coral caves pipe can be accessed now with a good roll and throw

[strange osprey]

coral caves how much i hate you

aether ridge too

every portal eventually leads you to aether ridge

[crisp cloud]

the ridgelings want to get acquainted

[wise fern]

Yeah

[crisp cloud]

i've been telling people about ripplespawn being important in ending 4.. i've been spreading misinformation by accident

well i guess they are for ||weaver||

[wise fern]

All lizards are very stupid

[crisp cloud]

yes but these guys are like stupider than usual

btw has there only been one new item so far

[desert trail]

Omg r they that dumb lol

[upbeat kestrel]

anybody noticed this thing in the background? i think thats new

[willow dirge]

i am not 100% sure abt that specific location. (I asume youre talking abt the thing showing the other region, right?) but this has appeared at warpplaces in my playthrough of watcher before 1.5

[fading bridge]

no

these arent related to rot

[fading bridge]

nah thats old

[upbeat kestrel]

oh i did not realize its that thing that shows a "preview" of the region youre about to warp to

i thought that was part of the background

[idle sentinel]

is anyone else having this problem

[wise fern]

That's always been there

It's the cold storage tower

[smoky sandal]

question guys

[oak summit]

Is this referencing the "ancient mesopotamian customer complain tablet"?

its almost the same dialogue lol

[wise fern]

I think so

[smoky sandal]

do you get the prince dialoge even if prince is left paralized with karma flowers in the ||weaver ending?||

[wise fern]

||As soon as the weaver quest has begun, Prince ending becomes unaccessible||

[teal hawk]

How doth one get new endings

[smoky sandal]

i mean, after you get the prince ending

[loud trout]

im tired of clicking every spoiler because im so excited for this new update

[wise fern]

Not sure if you can complete Prince first then do Weaver

[smoky sandal]

i wanna paralize prince first tho

do i still get the secret funky text

[teal hawk]

Hexy wyshes for th nue endings

[smoky sandal]

gghguuhuhuhgguhu

[wise fern]

Meowsmen, you are knowledgeable, can you complete Prince ending before starting weaver quest and how does it affect weaver if you can?

[oak summit]

this word seems so intentional

"Else"

[teal hawk]

HOW DOES ONE GET THE ENDING

[oak summit]

uppercase

[wise fern]

Play the game

[smoky sandal]

just one hint: get max ripple level

meowsmen

[wise fern]

Though the Bennies do love capitalising words

[teal hawk]

THANK YOU FRIEND

[smoky sandal]

please answer, can i still get weaver ending after paralizing the prince

its serious, so that i can start spreading rot 🫐

wahhhhhh

[oak summit]

they are incompatible

weaver always prioritized over prince's

but you can get one before starting the other

[smoky sandal]

so can i get prince ending first?

[turbid fox]

||can anyone send me a photo of the angler fish||

[smoky sandal]

i need a picture of the giant whale too 😭

[smoky sandal]

last question, sorry if im being annoying
is there only 1 pearl per region?

[oak summit]

no

many dont have

some have 2

[rain niche]

Still stuck. Would appreciate some advice. ||Spinning Top and Prince endings are done. Currently doing the closing all the portals thing and now when I teleport to random regions it only teleports me to fetid glen and badlands, but I feel like I've visited all the portals in them already. Can anyone tell me what portals I might be missing. For badlands I've been in 3 portals (Fractured Gateways all the way to the left - weird that this one doesn't close when you go through it, one in the middle, and daemon one.). For Fetid glen I've been in 3 portals (Salination one all the way to the right, Fractured Gateways under the water and shattered Terrace all the way to the left - this one doesn't close for some reason when you go through it.)||

[smoky sandal]

we need a list as soon as the official version comes out

[idle sentinel]

?

[fading bridge]

you can use the map in the shelter screen to ||check which portals you havent closed yet||

[placid crypt]

So when the update comes out for real is my save gonna get deleted orrrr... 😭

[fading bridge]

||also keep in mind whenever you close a portal, the weaver closes one random portal. so you only do half the work||

[smoky sandal]

i saw someone post a video of the leviathan whale in ||fracture gateways||, does anyone have it'

[rain niche]

||I double checked and fetid glen shows the only non closed portal being shattered terrace but I've already been through there and badlands shows fractured gateways and yep already been through that portal. Don't know if I'm missing something.||

[raw pasture]

hey btw you did the ||spiral quest||, do you know what the requirements for it are?

[fading bridge]

the hint is ||the answer is all in outer rim.||

[oak summit]

the room itself tells you what it needs

[turbid fox]

Can anyone be a good man?

As long as i at least see the design its all good

Also in what region can it be found (my ass wants all the spoilers)

[wise fern]

#1419863420286664744 message

The anglerfisj is almost always found in murky waters were it's cast in shadow

[wise fern]

#1419863420286664744 message

[turbid fox]

Peak

[turbid fox]

Thank you

(i would ask for more watcher creatures but i don't want to be annoying)

[wise fern]

Honestly the only real one left of note is the big boi the Weaver themself, and they aren't really a creature

[turbid fox]

Wait last one before i shut up, the ||moth larvea||

[loud trout]

washer goes from to

[elfin finch]

is the beta just a steam specific thing or can I do the same setup on gog?

[turbid fox]

It looks exactly like a creature im making for my mod 😭

Or region concept

[turbid fox]

Thanks

[wise fern]

||Honestly the final ending is so good, I'm still not sure how I'm meant to feel||

[desert trail]

hi i come back, i still cant believe watcher update is so insane

changed my name

scav pope 🥹 my dream...

[wise fern]

||I can't tell how the ending is meant to make me feel... all this because a random slugpup got their family killed||

[desert trail]

honestly what the hell is this thang

[wise fern]

||Are we supposed to be happy for Watcher, or sad or... just shocked||

[desert trail]

all of it

[wise fern]

||I mean, I guess at least Watcher now has somewhere they belong||

[quiet knot]

I need context

[wise fern]

||We are talking about the fourth ending, I advise you get that||

[quiet knot]

Ok but what is it I’ve only popped in here occasionally

[wise fern]

||Prince was a friend till the end, even if he did start talking a bit manically with the whole "we have reached the endgame" bit, but he was still friendly||

[wise fern]

(Fourth ending) ||Watcher turns into a void worm (or at least a facsimile of one), I'm not kidding, they gey sent to the depths, jump into the void sea and start getting elongated till they resemble a small void worm with the light and tendrils||

[hidden yoke]

pee

[quiet knot]

Oh… I don’t know how to feel about that…

[wise fern]

(Fourth ending) ||Honestly, considering the Watcher got filled with jaundice (aka karmic power I guess) by the void weaver who resembles a void worm somewhat, and they are referred to as a god consistently, I guess it makes sense for the end of their journey being another form of ascension into the closest thing Rain World as we know of has to a God||

[quiet knot]

Good for him I guess..?

[wise fern]

||Yeah, that's why I'm so confused, is this meant to be a good thing or bad or simply a purely neutral turn of fate||

[quiet knot]

||Let’s just assume it’s a neutral thing for now until we get more opinions, let the fanon do it’s work||

[wise fern]

||As I said, I guess you could say that Watcher has truly found a place to belong in the world. And I mean, there's quite a lot of I guess uh... friends? There's a lot of Worms in the worm pond||

[silver ravine]

Hi guys does anyone know what do with the ||dial/spiral room and the egg rooms in outer rim||

[hidden yoke]

is there any beta?

[quiet knot]

There was an attempt, good for bro

[wise fern]

||That stuffs not tied to the ending it seems, so I am also curious what side quest this is||

[desert trail]

wiat wait wait so || THAT'S the 4th ending? whats the 3rd ending then? ||

[wise fern]

||The weaver one||

[desert trail]

ok so my silly ass thought || thats the same ending, you know like after the spinny ascension dream u can go back and continue to toy? ||

[wise fern]

||The weaver ending is both its own ending and kinda bridges onto the next ending||

[naive nebula]

||getting the weaver cutscene is considered ending 3 yaa||

||i think you can actually do it before you free the child or the prince...||

[silver ravine]

||i just remember when i was doing the 4th ending i warped a rotted pink from the prologue regions to the toy room||