Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[broken plover]

Oh thank god

[peak cloud]

this is the best sequence of sentences i have seen today

[wooden sun]

One of the first patched glitches was just this

Forever cilantro

[broken plover]

Why is cilantro involved with cloakless hornet its so funny

[peak cloud]

are you still able to take the wormways route to skip bellbeast and get softlocked or is this the patch in question

[wooden sun]

No idea, I just saw a single YouTuber use a meme which was just a fan-made Cloakless hornet with the world cilantro on it

[clever furnace]

just a silksong shitpost, a "silkpost"

[broken plover]

Very well then, Cilantro i shall post

[broken plover]

Why she remind me of that one heavily edited image of a cat though

[peak cloud]

on this topic, my friends and i call silksong spoilers a “skoiler”. i accidentally typoed once and it stuck

[broken plover]

This fucking thing

[peak cloud]

here’s an awesome silkpost i found (i forgot who made it, but it was from reddit )

[wooden sun]

The silk was the friends we made, and the songs where what they sang all along the way

[wide ledge]

perhaps, this silk can sing

[peak cloud]

for the potential silksong dlcs, i am 100% putting my money on more lore about trobbio. he’s a really funny character and has like. barely any lore? he likes to sing, it’ll revive pharloom maybe, he just needs to kill you first doomed grimm yaoi, yada yada TRRRROBBIOOO

[opal totem]

If we get Trobbio dlc before Phantom I'm uninstalling and refunding

And killing Trobbio

[peak cloud]

i mean like in a larger dlc, not entirely centered around trobbio just like with more lore on him

also more phantom stuff would be peak

[dense wasp]

open slot on hunters crest i gotta decide between voltvessels and cogflies this sucks

[quiet sentinel]

cogflies

whats the other one being used for

[dense wasp]

curvesickle my goat

[dense wasp]

the thing is their total damage is still lower than realistic voltvessel total damage and its less burst

[quiet sentinel]

but theyre so cute

[dense wasp]

that and i have absolutely zero clue how you build reaper

[clever furnace]

@quiet sentinel high halls arena down

so i fucking forgot to equip my cogflies AND the shell satchel before barging in the arena, and also stupidly lost all 4 plasmium to the same silk explosion slam thing

thankfully i played the rest of it decently and didn't get any lower than 5 masks

[quiet sentinel]

YIPPEE

[clever furnace]

got the second silk heart

i think i'll go to mount fay now

or next time actually

[broken plover]

Really hope theres some sort of godseeker like mode in the future

[clever furnace]

people would probably riot if there isn't

[quiet sentinel]

With phial and 2 silk hearts you should be completely fine

The only scary part would be if you fall into water at beginning

[clever furnace]

honestly everything has been feeling a lot less intimidating than early game

[glad stratus]

Did the Mr mushroom quest. What the fuck •᷄‎ࡇ•᷅

What the fuck is this guy talking about

[vocal canyon]

some people think it's references to other video games. But who knows honestly

[glad stratus]

What does the silksong mod "boundsoul" do??

[sudden plover]

Ew

Ew ew ew ew

[unreal hedge]

in original HK or did they add an equivalent to Silksong

[glad stratus]

(Spoilers for an act 3 quest in cafe you wanna see it for yourself) ||he's just in silksong||

[unreal hedge]

surprised that I missed so much shit despite having 100%

[glad stratus]

Lmao

Did you see the place about the cradle?

Platforming in there is actual hell but yknow

[unreal hedge]

ah yeah I already got told about its location earlier in the thread but didn't go there yet

[full vale]

i fucking hate this stupid hornet thing

horned thing

finally fuck this thing

[broken plover]

Blawg wtf happening in Texas vro

[unreal hedge]

moth

[icy basin]

ah i beat her

[sudden plover]

I JUST WATCHED SOMEONE BEAT KARMELITA ON A SAXOPHONE AND I CANT DO IT NORMALLY

[digital robin]

Act 3? What is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3BfcdXH1EU

[little ferry]

I watched a video about skong recently and apparently I missed at least three things including the fact that the bone bottom residents survive a3

Tho at least one of those things could be steel soul exclusive

[tawdry osprey]

they dicorvering everytging now

[vocal canyon]

that's cool. but it's just silksoar, so no heartbosses

[digital robin]

It's also the farsight so we can count % in act 2

which would make act2 max% a bit more official

[dense wasp]

act1 max% seems like a pretty fun run outside of mount fay

[sudden plover]

Boo

[digital robin]

With dart (healstall / beast skip into the weavenest) it seems not that bad

[sudden plover]

How tall is Trobbio?

[digital robin]

act2 is probably cool, now it has a nice trick but nothing too crazy

[sudden plover]

You can skip act 2

[digital robin]

Chat, which Red tool is the one on the bottom right?

[sudden plover]

Hornet isnt a tool

Until she runs out of tools

Also fun fact:

If you run out of flea brew, she will throw the bottle

[vocal canyon]

Its very funny, it does 1 damage, so you could theoretically kill with it.

[full vale]

my hornet leg broke </3

[clever furnace]

y'all think taunting's ever worth for the damage buff?
I just did it on the craggler, turned out alright but I literally have nothing else to do while waiting their attack out

[full vale]

yes

[tawdry osprey]

damage buff???

[clever furnace]

50% damage increase to needle for the next strike after taunting

[tawdry osprey]

lol waht

[clever furnace]

dude did they reduce the health of some pilgrims istg if they keep nerfing shit because of "waaah game too hard :("

[mellow sigil]

the next strike specifically??? I thought its limited by time

like a few seconds after taunt ....

[clever furnace]

according to all sources I've heard from it so far, yes it's a buff for the next slash only

[mellow sigil]

oh wait
seconds limit wouldve been more buff.....

I didnt realise

[clever furnace]

Taunting gives a damage buff???
What is craggler?!?! -Peridot

the guy at the entrance to wormways that spits acid at u

rains down acid*

Ohhhh -Peridot

That guy -Peridot

and, again, yes, a 50% damage increase to the next needle hit

Hmmm, seems cool ig -Peridot

Didnt know it did that -Peridot

It doesnt stack right? -Peridot

it adds up with other buffs

Okay -Peridot

for example, 25% taunt + 25% flintslate = 50% damage increase

[clever furnace]

dude am going insane, why are so many early enemies taking less hits

they either increased their multiplier to needle level 0 hits or they just decreased these enemies health outright

[opaque shard]

💔

I think they also nerfed the grindles crafting kit cost

i remember it beign 780 but now its 700

[clever furnace]

tc please
at least add an option to revert the nerfs

[vocal canyon]

less grinding, fine by me

[opaque shard]

At the end of my game I had like 5000 rosaries 🥀

[clever furnace]

genuinely what were y'all doing, I literally never had to grind for rosaries

[vocal canyon]

glad to hear? But as long as speedrunners grind for rosaries in 100% speedruns, i wont be satisfied

[opaque shard]

Real

Probably cuz grinding might be easier than some wishes

Or faster

[wooden sun]

I needed to invest in the Underworks benches

[opaque shard]

Theyre like only 15

[wooden sun]

I'll get a return eventually... I hope.

[clever furnace]

where's the unbreakable charm money sinks to actually grind something for

[sudden plover]

I find it funny that everyone agrees that trobbio has depression

Like is that even canon?

[opaque shard]

Nah hes just emo

If some random crazy woman beat you the living shit outta you
You would be emo too

[wooden sun]

That's a funny way of describing self-defense.

[sudden plover]

I shared this headcanon in the HK subreddit and I got hit with "the headcanon went too far 🥀" 😭

[opaque shard]

Wait did you see my grimmxtrobbio art?

[sudden plover]

I can't tell if theyre kissing or just hugging

[clever furnace]

mmm, I don't disagree tbf

[opaque shard]

Kiss lol

[sudden plover]

Petition to have someone make a mod that replaces Cogwork dancers with Grimm and trobbio

[opaque shard]

They probably use the same atleases tho

Would require additional coding along with the art

[gentle cedar]

the height difference would be so insane LOL

imagine fighting different height cogwork dancers

[opaque shard]

But the hitboxes are same

[gentle cedar]

oh god 😭

id be more satisfied if they were just npcs sitting somewhere or smth

trobbio was listed under npcs at some point before release

[unreal hedge]

am I in the minority in finding the cogwork dancers fight rather forgettable

imo the whole green prince plotline just saves them from total irrelevance

[wooden sun]

Yes, very much so
That last phase will stick with me whenever I see gay robots

[barren ingot]

good music, fun patterns

only thing that wouldve made it better for me was a super-tough clover dancers

[unreal hedge]

i think it's the sole fight that I managed to no-hit on the first attempt

[opaque shard]

Real clover dancers are kinda underwhelming

i was expecting karmelita difficultty but got phantom

[unreal hedge]

though I think I may be just way too focussed on gameplay comparerd to the aesthetics/lore in, pretty much every fight

in hindsight it does seem an interesting concept/idea that was executed well, but I wasn't paying attention to it during the fight

[sudden plover]

Mod that makes the Grimm Troupe summonable in pharloom

They appear in the stage, but there's no ritual or quest line. The area under the stage becomes accessible and both trobbio and Grimm are down there.

[wooden sun]

It just puts a certain low quality png left of bone bottom

[opaque shard]

and theyre kissing

[sudden plover]

Also if you summon the troupe before you fight trobbio, the fight will be changed to a performance between the two.

[sudden plover]

I more imagined them talking with some tea :3

[opaque shard]

Gossiping with the gurls

[sudden plover]

If you go under the stage after doing the tormented trobbio & Grimm fight, they will be fighting

[opaque shard]

Divorce 💔

[wooden sun]

Actually, if there was the Grimm Troupe in Pharloom, wouldn't Trobbio become actually depressed seeing the troupe led by a different Troupe master after the events of HK?

[opaque shard]

And the whole point of grimm troupe is visiting dead kingdoms but pharloom isnt really dead now isit?

[sudden plover]

What if

Grimms body dies but his soul doesn't, it's just transfered to the new Grimm :3

[wooden sun]

I mean, in ||act 3||, there would definitely be a lot of nightmares to pull from.

[clever furnace]

god I'd kick their asses so hard if this was real

[sudden plover]

The ritual doesn't need to happen yet so he just goes wherever the fuck he wants /silly

[opaque shard]

Oh woaw that like the whole nkg lore omg

[sudden plover]

Because I imagine that the troupe is normal and doesn't go to dying places

Until the ritual is needed

[sudden plover]

Grimm just sits on the floor next to trobbio

[opaque shard]

"Thats rough buddy"

[sudden plover]

"oh we lost? Alr lets rest for a bit then."

[opaque shard]

Then they kis

[sudden plover]

I need someone to draw this now I don't care the quality it would be so funny

[wooden sun]

You've already stolen the doomed yaoi from me, you're gonna have to get someone else

[opaque shard]

Very rough sketch

[wooden sun]

[queen trench]

is this first sinner if you beat her in ||act 3||

[wooden sun]

Nope that's just fully modded.

People wanted some extra first sinner spice.

[sudden plover]

Lovely

[wise monolith]

DOOMED YAOI

[sudden plover]

Doomed yaoi

[sudden plover]

Alternatively

Grimm is simply a mortal vessel for the nightmare heart that needs to be swapped out occasionally, like throwing out old clothes and buying new ones

[icy basin]

no its first sinner if you install a mod

i should prob mention that it's this mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_8gPXiZBHo

thats like one of the two modded bosses i have

the other one is the bilewater beastfly

[clever furnace]

genuinely, what is weavelight's use for

a stalling build? Do people play like that?

[wooden sun]

It effectively gives you an extra silk heart, and makes your silk hearts more powerful.
At max silk hearts it gives you free silk skills, anywhere else it's for making sure you don't run out of clawline

[full vale]

time to get used to the beast crest and parrying

what do y'all recommend for the beast crest

[wide ledge]

the only red tool ever

of course

flea brew

[clever furnace]

barbed to really question your life choices

[full vale]

i mean yellow tools

and vesticrest

[clever furnace]

weighted belt to stay with the enemy
that's it lol
ig you can slap on the dice for free damage avoidance

[split sluice]

No

Cogflies

[full vale]

okkayy what do y'all recommend me doing in order to train parrying and the beast crest

[clever furnace]

step 1: swap to a different crest
step 2:

also parrying as in using cross stitch or that clashing with the enemy attack mechanic

[full vale]

both

[sudden plover]

OMG I love the basic parry cuz it's so cool when you parry a rapid attack

[full vale]

TRUE

NO EVA GIVE ME BACK MY BEAST CREST

[clever furnace]

Eva took your beast crest? -Wren

[full vale]

made me forcibly switch to hunter's

[wooden sun]

Eva's hungry, feed her crests

[full vale]

KI CAN'T BELIEVE I DIED TO

MOSS

MOTHER

[wooden sun]

Is this a steel soul run?

[full vale]

no

but still

i guess i'm getting used to the crest still

is this excusable chat

ok it was much easier the 4th time

i completely forgot about savage beastfly

[split sluice]

No you’re using beast

Unforgivable

[clever furnace]

wonder why tc made mask shards quite rare in act 1

at most you can get 6 of them which is insane

a single mask, for your troubles

so you can survive a whooping zero (0) more hits against more punishing enemies

[full vale]

🥹

[clever furnace]

chat what would a good beast buff be

[opal totem]

Make heal more useable

[full vale]

make so that heal actually heals 1 hp but you still get the beast crest thing

[clever furnace]

Make beast mode last longer/Not go away after getting hit 1 time -Wren

[full vale]

oh true

[clever furnace]

Also, last judge with no heals/tools/upgrades was pretty fun -Wren

Trying to beat the game with this

I think that hh gauntlet is going to be very scary

[full vale]

i love the beast crest actually

it makes me feel like an animal

[opal totem]

Wanderer does a better job at that unfortunately

[clever furnace]

watchertrue

[opal totem]

Would be nice if beast didn't waste heals when used at max hp and still healed up to 3 masks as you take damage

[full vale]

I LOST ALL OF MY MONEY BECAUSE OF THIS STUPID FUCKING WEAVER THING

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE I HATE YOU DIE

[wooden sun]

What weaver thing?

[opal totem]

That and a flat 6s duration instead of varying based on damage healed/taken

[full vale]

THE THING THAT FUCKING STEALS YOUR SILK

[wooden sun]

ah

[split sluice]

Oh those fucks

[full vale]

i'm sorry beast crest but you're horrid

[split sluice]

The final stage of grief

acceptance

[wooden sun]

Switch to the glitched GMS crest , it's my favorite

[full vale]

god this crest is so ass

[clever furnace]

chat I lost steel soul
to savage beastfly 1
they flew into me when positioning for a overhead attack

[broken plover]

Is sinners- Bilewater the only alternative route to thr citadel

Fuck last judge

[clever furnace]

unless you wanna get faydown without clawline, yea

[broken plover]

HGNNnhhgnh

Last judge you've ruined my day

Go step on a Lego last judge

[clever furnace]

my recommendation for judge is to stay close to her
her only move that forces you to get off her is when she spins that ball around
the toss specifically catches you if you're at a medium distance or airborne

you only need to get off the ground when she slams the ball in second phase, or does that dash move in second phase

or when she retracts the ball after tossing it and you're in front of it

[opal totem]

Whole one room of bilewater

[digital robin]

Average Silksong Experience (Right to Left)

[clever furnace]

time for yet another steel soul

[clever furnace]

Of course its eastward, you goobers just want more bilewater -Wren

[peak cloud]

[i want] pharloom bay… (they seriously cut an entire area from the game)

[clever furnace]

Actually, yeah

I want that too

BUT!!!!!

I would like to see more sands of karak like area -Wren

[sudden plover]

Didn't they cut multiple?

[opal totem]

There's probably a good reason for every thing getting cut

[clever furnace]

With the whole water theme -Wren

[sudden plover]

Wasn't an entire coral area planned too?

[clever furnace]

There was -Wren

[peak cloud]

we need a beach

[sudden plover]

Also do you think one of the dlc's will be about the city of steel?

[peak cloud]

definitely

there was a whole boss with animations and everything that got cut

[clever furnace]

That would be fire -Wren

[opal totem]

High halls

[peak cloud]

and the steel assassins from the trailer

[sudden plover]

City of steel is where the steel soul people (idk if they're a tribe, a cult, or smth else) come from right?

[clever furnace]

I dont know if the steel assasins will get their own region, but it sure would be fire -Wren

[clever furnace]

???

[opal totem]

I hope steel stuff is a future dlc

[sudden plover]

What are they?

[opal totem]

Water theme

Sort of

Structurally similar to SoK too

[clever furnace]

Sok?

And i still dont get how it is water themed -Wren

[opal totem]

It has water

[clever furnace]

I mean like, the underwater theme -Wren

I would love to see more things based off of underwater stuff -Wren

[sudden plover]

Sands of karak is meant to be like

An underwater area without water isn't it?

[opal totem]

I imagined old SoK just had a river

[clever furnace]

Yeah -Wren

[sudden plover]

Because it's got all the coral and stuff

The tower is what karak used to be

[clever furnace]

I fucking love underwater creatures
GIVE ME MORE!!!!!! -Wren

[foggy grotto]

silksong dlc lets you play as bell beast

[foggy grotto]

the entire game is just moving hornet around

10/10, game of the year, everybody claps

[opal totem]

Bus sim dlc

[sudden plover]

Imagine we get a city of steel dlc and the moment you reach the area, you're forced into steel soul mode (you're kicked out of the city when you die)

[opal totem]

Ok but they still should add fishing minigame to the flea festival I think

[peak cloud]

what if they made, hear me out on this one, a giant dlc that took 3 years to make and they released it all at once like the Singular Raindrop and and

[foggy grotto]

7 year development process, take it or leave it

[sudden plover]

Trobbio and Grimm yaoi dlc

[peak cloud]

wait yes. OH WE SHOULD GET TO MEET THE FLEA MOTHER SOMETIME THAT’D BE COOL

[foggy grotto]

[opal totem]

Act 4 dlc where you play as Zote and take all the credit for saving pharloom

[peak cloud]

i see no reason that we won’t get more trobbio lore in future dlcs

[opal totem]

We should meet Varga

Why did they just delete Varga

[clever furnace]

WHAT IF TROBBIO GETS A BOYFRIEND!!!! -Wren

[sudden plover]

I'm currently with the headcanon that trobbio was part of the troupe but the weavers banished them and he was forgotten

Also he was Grimms lover

[peak cloud]

”sorry gang. we actually really don’t like trobbio, we couldn’t get his voice actor to come back, he’s never coming back. sorry.” -evil team cherry (team apple)

[sudden plover]

Now they're both very sad

[foggy grotto]

silksong dating simulator dlc; hornet is transed and must win the love of Trobbio

[peak cloud]

i want to think that they had a break up and he was left behind on purpose

[clever furnace]

NOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😭 -Wren

What if HORNET gets a girlfriend -Wren

WOWWWWW

FIRE

THAT WOULD BE DOPE

[foggy grotto]

if it's not sherma I'm rioting

[opal totem]

Sherma is in fact not a girlfriend

[foggy grotto]

[peak cloud]

flashbacks to all the awesome lacenet art that ended up being a little cursed in retrospect…

[sudden plover]

Nuh uh

They were still in love but they had an argument, trobbio ran off to the stage because he was mad, and then the Troupe was banished while he was gone

[clever furnace]

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I headcannon Sherma as ace aro, that would shatter my silly headcannon -Wren

[opal totem]

Green princes situation is crazy

[peak cloud]

this is even better. thank you

[foggy grotto]

rip

[clever furnace]

I want him aro ace confirmed 🙏 -Wren

[wide ledge]

I want him DEAD

[foggy grotto]

wait sherma is a guy

[sudden plover]

Yes

[clever furnace]

Is he not -Wren

[sudden plover]

He is

The game refers to Sherma as a he

[foggy grotto]

uhhhhh

[wooden sun]

He's aro ace confirmed to me until proven otherwise.

[wide ledge]

the single pronoundrop of sherma in the entire game is where he is lost in whiteward

[foggy grotto]

well this is a surprise

[sudden plover]

"find him" -The game

[peak cloud]

it’s implied he got past the last judge no problem which means he’s technically deemed worthy of entering the citadel (unlike murderous, evil, (other bad things) hornet)

[clever furnace]

You thought he was a girl?! -Wren

[foggy grotto]

maybe the person who says that is just stupid

[foggy grotto]

HE SOUNDS LIKE ONE OK

[sudden plover]

YOU JUST LOST THE GAME

[opal totem]

Didn't everyone think that

[sudden plover]

it's a wish description

[foggy grotto]

UHHHHH

[clever furnace]

OMG -Wren

[foggy grotto]

THE WISH IS STUPID THEN IDC

[sudden plover]

He sounds like a young boy

[foggy grotto]

[sudden plover]

High pitched ≠ girl

[foggy grotto]

look I'm uh

[peak cloud]

i looked at him and thought “HE’S SO CUTE” when i encountered him in marrow so ig i’m super good at that stuff idk

[foggy grotto]

not very smart

[sudden plover]

He sounds like a little boy who hasn't hit puberty yet

[wide ledge]

i think the girl thing also comes from the resemblance of myla

[peak cloud]

i think even at the end of the day, assuming the pronouns of bugs in the hk/silksong series is difficult since it’s not always going to be clear (e.g. the vessels are commonly misgendered, sherma, nuu, bell beast, etc.)

[sudden plover]

That's also why everyone had a heart attack upon finding the precious little boy

[sudden plover]

Aww he's adorable!

60 hours later:

ITS A GIRL AND IT HAS KIDS

[wide ledge]

bell beast is a single father of 56

[peak cloud]

i like to think there’s hundreds of bellbies (i’m calling them that now) but only 3-4 show up at a time

[wide ledge]

nuu also refers to herself way too many times

[peak cloud]

i honestly thought nuu was male at first, idek know why that’s my silk issue

[clever furnace]

Also, Lugoli is enby :3c -Wren

[peak cloud]

:3333

[sudden plover]

I got hit with enby ass

Ass jim

[clever furnace]

Ass jim 🙏 😭 -Wren

[sudden plover]

There's a mod that changes every instance of the words "disgraced chef lugoli" with "ass Jim"

[opal totem]

Why can't Hornet run up walls when I hold sprint button

[wide ledge]

shes not tthat cool

[sudden plover]

Because she can't keep her grip while running up the wall

She has to stop and regain her grip so she doesn't fall.

[opal totem]

She can do that when I spam the button but not when I hold it

She is in fact not cool

[clever furnace]

I love that -Wren

[sudden plover]

When you spam, she still grabs the wall between dashes

It's physically impossible to sprint up a wall without some kind of flight

[opal totem]

Could've at least added it as a unique ascendant's grip feature, maybe then I'd actually use it

[clever furnace]

chat is there any mod that lets enemies inflict random crits on hornet
after all, they can only be fair and balanced if both sides get them

[wooden sun]

I mean, with that funny artificial spine tool you can run up the wall

[sudden plover]

Ew no

[wide ledge]

crest based enemy quirks

[opal totem]

You can but its controls suck ass

Which is sad because I really want to use that tool

Should've just made it replace turn around and dash animation

[sudden plover]

Yeah the tool is actual ass outside of being funny

[clever furnace]

2% chance for a double damage attack to deal 6 masks 🔥

[wooden sun]

Hornet returns to spider

[sudden plover]

Its basically a melee weapon for lugoli, aka ASS

[wide ledge]

wanderer makes enemies deal crits, hunter makes the enemies deal twice the damage when youre on low health, reaper makes the enemies slow, beast makes them faster and actively seek you

shaman makes them bad

[opal totem]

Why shaman hate

[wide ledge]

bored

[opal totem]

Fair

[clever furnace]

because it's funny to hate on shaman for no reason

[opal totem]

"I want my hollow knight moveset back" people when a crest has grounded heal (just like in hollow knight)

[wooden sun]

Glitched GMS crest causes everything to float off the ground.

[wide ledge]

the game is balanced for me to be able to float 💔

[clever furnace]

I hate shaman mostly because you get it at the LITERAL FUCKING LAST ACT?!?!?!?!
THERE IS NO TIME TO LEARN IT
IT SEEMS FUN BUT I WILL NEVER KNOW -Wren

true

[opal totem]

More act 3 side content dlc when

[wooden sun]

Godhome 2

[wide ledge]

add 56 more act 3 only areas because why not

[clever furnace]

how about godhome 3

[foggy grotto]

the most hidden one in the game too

[clever furnace]

There should be a new game+ where the only difference is that you have all crests from the start of the game -Wren

[clever furnace]

So you can replay the full game with them all -Wren

[wide ledge]

there should be a new game+ where theres void now all over the game

[wooden sun]

I'd think witch takes that crown much more than shaman

[queen trench]

ignore that it was not finished yet and I accidently hit enter

[clever furnace]

every enemy black threaded, bosses included
enjoy the double hp enemies

[foggy grotto]

nah witch is easy to find as long as you fully explore the map

[clever furnace]

yep, I had to look up how to get shaman

[foggy grotto]

the parasite is quite loud in bilewater

[clever furnace]

I would try that challenge -Wren

[queen trench]

don't some have quadruple the healtH?

[wide ledge]

shaman is led by curiosity and witch is led by remembering greyroot which is a really difficult task

[foggy grotto]

shaman is led by pressing a button in one certain spot for no reason

[clever furnace]

Currently we have been doing Silksong without binding/tools/upgrades -Wren

Its really fun -Wren

[foggy grotto]

if you don't know there's something in that room then you won't find it

[clever furnace]

[clever furnace]

since you get silksoar really late, I definitely did not take note of any suspicious holes in the ceiling, because why would I?

[wide ledge]

chapel = crest

exactly

[clever furnace]

Also only using hunter crest, but thats just because i like hunters crest -Wren

hunter the joat

it would be funny if dlc content made it so that you can get 100% completion in act 2

[wide ledge]

you get silksoar like mid early act 3

[clever furnace]

i might be wrong but iirc only 7% of completion is required to be in act 3

[wooden sun]

That'll make steel soul 100% completion easier... Probably

[wide ledge]

i will always waste time getting wanderers crest in speedrun achievement saves for no reason ❤️

[hardy jolt]

that might prompt the devs to make a pure completion for steel soul in silksong

[clever furnace]

team cherry please add some silk spools before the first arena in act 3 or else we delete australia

[wide ledge]

true

the first act 3 arena is evil

sooo evil

[glad stratus]

Where the fuck is the spring master I lost em

Aroint

Sprint

[wide ledge]

its

there

probably

[glad stratus]

I wanna race em

ALSO SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE A MOD THAT SHOWS THE REWARD WHEN YOU GO TO VIEW A WISH

[wide ledge]

the reward is in your heart❤️

[opal totem]

That secret room in vaults was not easy to find

[foggy grotto]

didn't take me very long at all

I found it on accident looking for something else

[opal totem]

I didn't find it until I looked it up after beating the game

[wide ledge]

i found it when my friend sent me the vaults map

[sudden plover]

Some show it

[wide ledge]

and i didnt recognize that big chunk

[sudden plover]

I mostly do wishes cuz it feels good to help :3

[wide ledge]

and even then i did not know what the fuck to do with the baby

until mid act 3

[sudden plover]

Pretty sure that's part of why hornet does them

[opal totem]

Same

I brought the bud to Yarnaby, that did nothing and at that point I was out of guesses

Pavo gives you a hint for it but what are the chances I decide to talk to Pavo again after beating the rest of the game

[sudden plover]

Isn't the room and crib being made of roots supposed to be a hint?

[opal totem]

And no I did not pay attention to the area where I found the bud

[sudden plover]

That you talk to root lady in shell wood?

[wide ledge]

i forgot about greyroot

thought it gave me the best tool ever

[opal totem]

Overrated tool I think

[split sluice]

DID SOMEONE SAY MORE BILEWATER

[opal totem]

Bilewater dlc would go hard tbh

[clever furnace]

do any of y'all destroy the bone bottom bridge on purpose to access weavenest atla easier
I sure don't, I'd never ruin flick's work

[split sluice]

Hollow knight: Biler water

[split sluice]

I regrettably did on my first playthrough

[wide ledge]

unbile water

[split sluice]

Fuck you, biles the citadel

[opal totem]

I don't build it until I get second vesticrest

[wide ledge]

never did ❤️ what I did however is break the mini hornet statue

[opal totem]

Kinda wish skull tyrant broke it

[clever furnace]

same
I thought he'd say something but he literally doesn't care??

[split sluice]

Crime.

[opal totem]

I thought you can also destroy the scarecraw

[split sluice]

You will be executed for your crimes.

[clever furnace]

you can't, that one's built sturdy

[wide ledge]

I was lacking the shell shards okay.

[split sluice]

Breaking the statuette is a crime punishable by death

[quiet sentinel]

yes its just a nuissance :<

[opal totem]

I wonder if big statue gives less shards than hornet one

[wide ledge]

team Cherry's evil masterminds plays with the GUILT and SHAME of the players

[clever furnace]

His work may not be built to last, but I don't see any other stepping up and building something better

[opal totem]

Where's menderbug when we need him the most

[split sluice]

Probably in the void or something

[opal totem]

Imagine if silksong's boss rush takes place in the abyss and it's just void taking shapes of various bosses

This would be ass

[split sluice]

/pos or /neg?

[opal totem]

Negative

No more cool visuals

[wide ledge]

imagine if silksongs boss rush was blue

[split sluice]

Plasmium

[barren ingot]

voidified zango: exactly the same, 3x the HP

[wide ledge]

cures faster

[clever furnace]

and no phial

[opal totem]

Zylitol should've studied void instead

So we could 4 shot final boss with the phial

Does this thing even do anything to normal enemies

[clever furnace]

unironically a fire way to bring down the final boss, by extracting the void out of her

[clever furnace]

some damage

and you can get skewered organs with it

[opal totem]

Wanderer needle strike skewered when

[split sluice]

I do hope the boss rush mode is void based so that we can get shade lord

[opal totem]

I don't think it has to be void based for shade lord to appear there

[clever furnace]

how do you theme a godhome area with void colors

[opal totem]

I just hope we get something new and not just the return of godseeker

[wide ledge]

godseeker should appear so they tell me what is beastfly a god of

god of pure evilness .

[split sluice]

If godseeker does return it should be a voided version of the original godhome

Imo

[clever furnace]

godhome 2 would work the best imo
after all, that's just godseeker's deal, to roam around looking for great bugs and attune them to find the god of gods

[wide ledge]

everything. everything void

it's all void

[opal totem]

What if instead of godhome 2 it's mosshome 2 and all bosses are mossified

[clever furnace]

I do see shade lord being final boss of skong godhome
after all, shade lord is the current god of gods

[wide ledge]

godding my gods

lugoli god of ass

[quiet sentinel]

would they even count as gods

[opal totem]

Godseeker calls moss charger a god so I don't see why not

But I hope it's not a literal godhome again

[quiet sentinel]

ive never really liked the classification of "gods" cause there is no line its just moss charger or nkg

like how is flukemarm a god

[opal totem]

Just add some new area with new snail shaman that tells you to return to memories and fight bosses for some kind of attunement

[quiet sentinel]

i mean itll most likely be stuff to do with the elegy yea

since godhome operated via dream realm

[clever furnace]

watch them add dream nail 2 to exclusively access godhome 2

[split sluice]

Postgame the knight drops off the dream nail at the void dock

[wide ledge]

i thought the acts were going to split kingdoms

3 kingdoms in one game

[opal totem]

I thought the game will have 3 acts, can't believe it ended at act 2

[quiet sentinel]

rule of 3

[clever furnace]

in abyss godhome every boss gets lost added to the front of its name

[wide ledge]

lost lost lace

[clever furnace]

instead of ascended difficulty we get "lost" difficulty

[void prawn]

4x damage and void attacks

[opal totem]

Lost soul mode

[void prawn]

I kinda want a perma cursed mode

That would be funny

[opal totem]

All pantheon bindings for a regular playthrough mode

[void prawn]

Also did you know the life blood flies from act 3 is a scrapped lifeblood enemy from hk

I was watching an iceberg vid from 3yr ago and it brought that up

[clever furnace]

you mean winged lifeseeds are RECYCLED CONTENT???? 💥

[full vale]

yes

[queen trench]

Some calculations regarding red tool damage per shell shard required to repair it, not counting pollip pouch cuz maximum pollip pouch damage depends on a whole lot of stuff (not for all tools but still). Also maximum damage amount per reload. Because I wanted someplace to put it and why not post it somewhere at the same time then. This is at max damage from crafting kits and max capacity from tool pouches. Based on the damage amounts and repair amount listed on the wiki. The damage values of the ones that have "Single Hit" behind them does not accurately portray the true amount, just the minimum if it hits once, as it relies on your skill and circumstances to hit multiple times, Conchcutter, Delver's Drill and Cogwork Wheel also don't necessarily always hit for their full amount, but they're much easier to actually fully hit.

Straight Pin: 5.1, 408
Threefold Pin (All Hit): 6.25, 500
Sting Shard (Full): 5.25, 420
Tacks: 8.75, 700
Longpin (Single Hit): 4.25, 340
Curveclaw (Single Hit): 2, 160
Curvesickle (Single Hit): 3.4, 272
Throwing Ring (Single Hit): 3.5, 280
Pimpillo: 3.825, 306
Conchcutter: 8.4, 672
Silkshot (Forge Daughter): 7.5, 600
Silkshot (Twelfth Architect)(All Hit): 5.4, 432
Silkshot (Original): 6.8, 544
Delver's Drill: 18.9, 1512 (yes that's right)
Cogwork Wheel: Missing Information
Cogfly: 5, 400
Rosary Cannon (Per Rosary): 5, 400
Voltvessels (Spear): 9.625, 770
Voltvessels (Bola): 1.875, 150
Snare Setter: 10.625, 850
Flea Brew (Thrown): 0.3, 3

[queen trench]

actually they also appear before act 3

[quiet sentinel]

delvers drill not hitting for full duration is based off from how high above an opponent you use it? i always wondered whether the timer for it starts when casting or when impacting

[void prawn]

You can throw flea brew

[opal totem]

Doesn't drill work the same way as shaman's bind

If you hold it it goes all the way down

Yep

[quiet sentinel]

Wait I had no idea you could hold them lol

[queen trench]

uh huh

[queen trench]

I believe so yeah

[queen trench]

I don't know, I'll have to experiment

I don't actually know how shaman bind works

I have only been playing with hunter's crest

[clever furnace]

chat what is your explanation for shaman bind having to be performed on the ground
does hornet just decide not to for the aura

[opal totem]

Something about snail shell

[clever furnace]

oh, that's a good start actually

[barren ingot]

isnt massive moss charger just like, a bunch of smaller moss creatures in a big pile or smth

[clever furnace]

yes

chat would craggler be considered a god

[wooden sun]

I like how the god seekers specifically drew a line at Grey Prince Zote, classifying him as a "False God"

[quiet sentinel]

yep

Low to none expectations! Apply to be a God today!

[barren ingot]

can a cheerleader squad be a god

[opal totem]

3 not massive moss chargers in a trench coat

[barren ingot]

I think that would count

[clever furnace]

if they can throw hands than yea lol

[wooden sun]

Sisters of battle

[barren ingot]

imagine competitive cheerleading squad fight where they have to stay in a stack the whole time

[opal totem]

Trobbio would definitely be a god

[barren ingot]

akin to swimming pool game "chicken fight"
why is it called that

[clever furnace]

almost did mount fay damageless if not for accidentally sprinting into one of the servitors :(

[opal totem]

Done with watchering and now I'm out of games to play again, do I just return to steelsouling

[quiet sentinel]

rwsc

(thats what im gonna do once im done watchering)

[opal totem]

Challenges aren't real

[queen trench]

what exactly do you mean by this, because it isn't longer when you hold the button

[opal totem]

The drilling duration isn't longer but the down dash before it is

[queen trench]

ohhhh, in that way

[queen trench]

uhhh, I think I might've found a glitch (I used silksoar here and then got hit by the moving spike thing)

[glad stratus]

Flea....

[queen trench]

I was floating down slowly here for context

[glad stratus]

꒰ω꒱

[glad stratus]

Love flea

Flea is life

Awooo

[glad stratus]

Gonna fight the watcher over the edge for the first time

IIRC he's in uh SOK

watching...

Over the edge

He isn't doing anything

What

[glad stratus]

Okay I best him

Architect for the win

Just let the cogflies do it

Ez

[swift flame]

deepwoken just copied hollow knight 💔

[opal totem]

"Shaman's damage bonus got nerfed from 50% to 40% so there's no reason to use it now" - one of the statements ever made

[vocal canyon]

lmaoo

people said same bullshit when needle strike architect got a slap on the wrist

[mellow sigil]

shaman has a damage bonus????

[vocal canyon]

50% for silk skills or used to be. Now it's 40%

[mellow sigil]

wow......

[digital robin]

There is a Datamined region (you can see the empty hole on the southeast of Bile Water) that was intended to be clean water (like the lake) region on that area

The other popular contender is a dream region (like Verdania) in Karak so we can explore outside the tower

[digital robin]

Patchnotes balance (RIP Threadstorm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md6g33Sjru0

They buffed i-frame spells, and nerfed everything else (mainly threadstorm and shaman)

[misty isle]

"We apologise for making Architect so cracked, so lets nerf one of the worst crests that you only have for 20% of the game"

[digital robin]

Nerfed the x1.5 to x1.4

[misty isle]

huh

[opal totem]

Why shaman hate

It's good

[digital robin]

TLDR: Hunter focus now got buffed (DPS arround beast mode)

[opal totem]

Didn't they also want to buff rune rage

[opal totem]

Bruh why

[digital robin]

Shaman got the magic multiplier nerfed from 1.5 to 1.4

but the charge attack is slightly better

So ¿reaper nerf?

[misty isle]

Its good, just all the crests are so good that its not so great in comparison.
And also obtaining it so late kinda ruins its usefulness

[opal totem]

Idk I think shaman is like top3

Good enough to carry you through most of act 3

[misty isle]

ngl I think if Witch got a small DPS buff and Architect got a nerf then all would be at the exact same power level

[digital robin]

It's still good, is just not as good. The main thing is that they nerfed Threadstorm that was the more insane spell

[opal totem]

I don't think architect needs a nerf

[digital robin]

Architect should get their stuff together

nerf tools but make shards less of a problem

[opal totem]

The crest itself is fine, it's tools that can be problematic and there's no easy fix for that

[digital robin]

is both the best and worst crest

[misty isle]

Yeah

[opal totem]

I personally used architect like any other crest and it's just decent

Not op or anything

[misty isle]

Spending 100 shards for full using lifeblood tool once sucks

[digital robin]

The power of Architect is not the nail

[mental shuttle]

No fucking way

[opal totem]

If you decide to empty your entire shards reserve onto a single boss then of course it's op

[misty isle]

Misinfo 💖

[opal totem]

Silkposts used to be believable

[mental shuttle]

Hehehehehe

[digital robin]

Real patchnote

[opal totem]

Archi's moveset is still very powerful imo

Main reason why I ever decide to use it

[digital robin]

I wonder if the double jump is the Beast skips?

That would be sad

[opal totem]

Beast nerf would be funny

[digital robin]

Today was a nerf

[misty isle]

Reaper nerf, reduced attack speed by 25%

[digital robin]

Hitless Hunter is basically Beast at this point without the weird beast things

Reaper didn't got any buff or nerf, which is kinda weird

[misty isle]

Yeah just nohit the game and youll have the same DPS

[opal totem]

Guess they're fine with reaper being a training wheels crest

[digital robin]

Hitless should have bigger DPS than the "facetank and heal, and facetank and heal" crest

Making both around the same level is fine

[opal totem]

Meanwhile wanderer

Still being a better beast

[misty isle]

Wanderer lacks the range and heal on facetank

[opal totem]

Did some final boss with it today and it's so stupid

[misty isle]

Wanderer also has worse moveset than Beast ngl

[opal totem]

Better facetanker than beast due to silk gain

[misty isle]

Wanderer charge attack and running attack suck

[misty isle]

Beast attacks at same pace as Wanderer in rage mode I think?

[opal totem]

The only wanderer attack I'd say sucks is up slash

[misty isle]

And thats all the silk youll need

[digital robin]

Wanderer isn't even the top dog now

[opal totem]

So the beast spends 9 silk to get wanderer's attack speed for like 3 seconds

Awesome

[digital robin]

It's just the "easy skill ceiling" crest

with good DPS

[misty isle]

Its more than enough time to get more silk than you have spent

Along with healing

[opal totem]

Heavily depends on the boss

If the boss is slow and fat then sure

If it's something like final boss have fun wasting your bind on one attack

[misty isle]

Melted Lost Lace that way

Like yesterday

[opal totem]

Wanderer melts harder

[misty isle]

Lol

[opal totem]

Beast requires too much effort to achieve that peak performance while wanderer just spams attack button

[digital robin]

Correct

[misty isle]

Yeah Wanderer is just easier to use

[digital robin]

that is why is the nº3 DPS crest with bad Aiming against flying targets

Btw

[misty isle]

Also I think Beast pogo is actually a pretty good advantage

iframes ❤️

[digital robin]

they buff the Architec hidden chainsaw blue tool

now is probably the strongest DPS option

[misty isle]

damn

[digital robin]

Since you can animation cancel and go completly berserk with certain crests like Witch

[opal totem]

I feel like iframes are more of a necessity to not take damage due to how weird beast's pogo is rather than an advantage I can actively use

[digital robin]

In general tools that damage enemy now scale with tool upgrade and after +3 they tend to be better

(Trobio Mirror got nerfed mainly RIP)

[opal totem]

Aren't they supposed to all scale with crafting kits?

[misty isle]

Call it however you want, budget sharpdart at will is awesome

[digital robin]

Sharpdart got buffed and now is one of the better spells

so I would disagree

[misty isle]

No I mean like

Beast pogo is Sharpdart but weaker, and doesnt use skill slot or silk

For anything you can use Sharpdart for, you can use Beast pogo too

[digital robin]

Yea, I just say that now that Sharpdart can compete with threadstorm, their i-frames and ease of use makes the Beast pogo not as good

[misty isle]

Honestly cant wait for the boss replay mod / DLC

So I can test out and melt bosses with any crest whenever I like

Moss mother vs Shaman parry spam ❤️

[digital robin]

https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/261

[opal totem]

Doubt boss rush dlc is going to be anytime soon, makes sense to save it for last

[little ferry]

What does the plus mean on thread storm?

[digital robin]

The extended version

right now is extremly bad

[little ferry]

What's that?

[digital robin]

If you mash the spell button it used to double the spell time so you could do arround 50-100% more damage

[opal totem]

Tbh extending it is free so it shouldn't be very good

[little ferry]

Ohh

[opal totem]

I'd prefer extending spending extra silk for more damage but this works too

[digital robin]

now it just do 1~3 of damage each tick so is usually better to just stop the attack and swing your nail once (safer and more DPS)

keep in mind longer sometimes meant getting hit

[opal totem]

Sometimes

A lot of times it's free, especially since the skill pushes enemies that move towards you back and blocks projectiles

[digital robin]

Before you used to go from 80 to 122 (+42) now is 67 to 76 (+9). Nail +1 (post Widow) does 9 of damage. That means that your extra reward is pretty much 1 nail swing that chances are is safer

What people are complaining is that now it's pretty much useless while it feels like it should do quite a bit of extra damage

[opal totem]

I'd call it situational

And the base cast is still good so

[digital robin]

The complain is not that is a bad spell (it's still a good DPS choise, even if Dart is now a bit better sometimes). Is more about how the extension feels a lot more powerful than it actually is

and can trick new players into puting into dangerous situations for no real reward, while that type of "secret" should give you a substantial reward

[opal totem]

Extension having a substantial reward is what made threadstorm by far the best silk skill

[glad stratus]

this new silksomg upd looking fire

[opaque shard]

Should add more sinners

[glad stratus]

If only

I want a mod that let's me summon enemies

Imagine like 10 gms

[opaque shard]

First sinner, second sinner, third sinner, fourth sinner, fifth sinner, sixth sinner, seventh sinner, nineth sinner and tenth sinner

[glad stratus]

Also the last Sentinel mod is so fucking hard

Jesus fuck this guy is immortal

Like 1 minute in I'm at 1 mask and all I did was 10 dmg to the Sentinel

phase ONE btw

[opaque shard]

Why goes her attacks take up the whole screen

[sudden plover]

BOO

the gay

Also how does boss AI work?

What determines what attack it will use or where it will move?

Is it random?

[mellow sigil]

yaoi so doomed it screwed their pixels

[sudden plover]

I mean Grimm has likely done the ritual by the time skong happens

[sudden plover]

Meaning he's dead

No more yaoi

[opaque shard]

Ermm actually grimm is a vessel for nkg so hes still alive with grimmchild

[sudden plover]

Oh yay no longer doomed yaoi

[opaque shard]

My man trobbio dating a god ❤️

[sudden plover]

But it would be weird for trobbio to love a child unless the gap between HK and skong is long enough for GrimmChild to grow up

[opaque shard]

Ture

[mellow sigil]

I meant that the picture is very pixelated

is not for everyone else??????

[opaque shard]

it is

pokemon gen 3 looking

[glad stratus]

It's parry focused.. "just parry" as they say...

[sudden plover]

That's the joke

I am the man who requested this image be made

I asked for "low quality image of Grimm and trobbio labeled doom yaoi"

[opaque shard]

Mods kill him

[mellow sigil]

I dont like this

[sudden plover]

What did I do!?

That's it!

FOURTH EIGHT SAVAGE BEASTFLIES

[mellow sigil]

wait we have a survivor meeting!!!!! we're all survivors!!!!!!

[mellow sigil]

oh no

[sudden plover]

AND NINETY TWO MUCKED BEASTFLIES

[opaque shard]

Thats it

[split sluice]

nah

[sudden plover]

AND 1732 LOST SINNERS

ALL AT THE SAME TIME

[opaque shard]

im unleashing the entirety of bile water on you

[mellow sigil]

SHOO

[split sluice]

evil hunter-chelper arrival

[sudden plover]

        ____   _    ____  ______   __
    _  |  _ \ / \  |  _ \|  _ \ \ / /
  _| |_| |_) / _ \ | |_) | |_) \ V / 
 |_   _|  __/ ___ \|  _ <|  _ < | |  
   |_| |_| /_/   \_\_| \_\_| \_\|_|  
                                     

[split sluice]

Can I has

[opaque shard]

Nuh uh

[split sluice]

More bilewater for me

[sudden plover]

Deleting your house

[opaque shard]

When the water is bile

[mellow sigil]

and me !!!!!!

[sudden plover]

Also I enjoyed bilewater

Groal was the only thing I didn't like

[opaque shard]

Jokes on you im in my collage dorm rn

[split sluice]

No it’s all for me

[sudden plover]

Deleting your college

[split sluice]

Fire alarm.

[mellow sigil]

you're ruining my life!!!!!!!!!

[opaque shard]

Ya yippe no more school

[opal totem]

Would you still love bilewater if it killed your steel soul

[sudden plover]

Makes you go to college 24/7

[sudden plover]

Yes

[sudden plover]

Because I doubt I'd make it to bilewater

[opaque shard]

Skill issue

[split sluice]

The pain is forever enjoyable

What is NOT enjoyable is putrified ducts

[sudden plover]

Deleting hunterglee from raincord

[sudden plover]

Absolutely

[opal totem]

I wish ducts had more stuff

[sudden plover]

Fuck spit squits or however the fuck you spell it

[sudden plover]

They have the big flea

[split sluice]

Putrified ducts is like bilewater but bad

[sudden plover]

Vog is the best one

[opaque shard]

Vog is my wife

[sudden plover]

We all strive for vog

[opaque shard]

Real

[split sluice]

I count fleatopia separately from putrified ducts because neither deserve to be thought of as a package

[split sluice]

Incorrect, I strive for eternal happiness with bell beast

[clever furnace]

i’ve seen people say primal aspids were not that bad compared to spit squits but honestly primal aspids were never that bad in general

it just feels like an extremely overused joke

[sudden plover]

I strive for bell eater

[opaque shard]

Primal aspids die in like one shade soul lol

[sudden plover]

That's why I no longer use bell beast

[split sluice]

Yeah squatcraws are literally just primal aspids but with some bonus stuff

and the only issue that I’ve seen with them is their horrible ability to stay JUST OUT OF RANGE

[opal totem]

Tbh if you were flying enemy you'd do the same thing

[clever furnace]

i wonder if 5 years from now people are still gonna be like “savage beastfly strong am i right” as if the joke never gets old

[quiet sentinel]

probably

[split sluice]

I think savage beastfly is valid

[opaque shard]

What does this mean

[quiet sentinel]

(Moorwing was harder before)

[opal totem]

First beastfly hate is not valid I think

Second sure

[split sluice]

Buff moorwing to instakill

[opaque shard]

buff moorwing so if you try to do the fleaskip it just kills them all and you cant access act 3

[split sluice]

Unless you get Vog somehow

[opaque shard]

Vog solos fr

[split sluice]

You know who we should be buffing?

Phantom

[clever furnace]

khann and clover dancers were underwhelming

[opal totem]

I really liked khann

Bro is playing cotnd

[clever furnace]

favorite part about it was more of just coral tower because it’s pretty

[split sluice]

Khann also needs to be buffed i think

Clover dancers is fine

[opal totem]

I think he's fine

Only thing I'd buff about khann is make last phase start earlier

[clever furnace]

and then nyleth is uhhh Nyleth

[opal totem]

The good thing about nyleth is that I can skip it

[split sluice]

Nyleth is cool, but overall probably needed more

[opal totem]

On a totally unrelated note, drill should have some sort of iframes for when the enemy just moves up into you

[split sluice]

she doesn’t feel as grand as the other two primary memory bosses

[digital robin]

Deep down Nyleth is just Splinter 2.0

Plant-based Roof / Wall static boss, with some space denial gimmick

[opal totem]

Why didn't splinter just cover floor in spikes, is she stupid

[digital robin]

She covered the air with spikes

you silly

[opal totem]

I don't need air

[digital robin]

(Nyleth had the floor spikes patent)

[sudden plover]

Oh noooo

Someone played a game after an update

Oh nooo the game was made slightly easier

Oh nooo

You should be ashaaamed

The game is still difficult

[quiet sentinel]

I think it's satire (moorwing was harder btw)

[clever furnace]

I beat moorwing without binding/tools/upgrades, but i guess it doesnt matter (moorwing was harder) -Wren

[opal totem]

Now beat moorwing without needle

[clever furnace]

NO!!!!!! -Wren

Im going to continue my silly no binding/tools/upgrades run -Wren

Currently on cogwork dancers

Very fun refighting them

[opal totem]

Isn't that just cursed crest run

[clever furnace]

No

I dont want to do cursed crest

I like silk spells

Also, cursed crest can have mask upgrades, and nail upgrades

Its likely still harder

But i like my challenge more

[opal totem]

Well you can just not get the upgrades

But I'd rather do that on hunter anyway

[sudden plover]

Skong canonizes hornet training in the hive right?

I haven't gotten to anything explicitly saying it but hornet said her needle is made by the people of a hive and it's made of hivesteel

[clever furnace]

Yeah, its cannon ||there is the red memory sequence|| -Wren

[sudden plover]

What about a ||blue memory?||

[opal totem]

I wonder if they're ever going to buff cannon

[digital robin]

Buff? What is that?

Honestly, making so Architect can reload cannon could be a nice buff, it's the only tool it can't and feels kinda weird

Is just me or does Groal look a bit weird in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shv6gBDRO18&list=RDShv6gBDRO18&start_radio=1

[hardy jolt]

groal the g....rovile

[digital robin]

Funny enough it's nemesis is "The Great Dusknoir"

[opal totem]

I liked that one buff when they let me load the cannon at all

[split sluice]

Wrong
Groal is Great

Unlike Stinky trobbio

[hardy jolt]

ender

[digital robin]

Grovile the great

[hardy jolt]

what has trobbio done to you

[split sluice]

Exist

And be too dramatic

[hardy jolt]

kills you

[split sluice]

Nuh

[hardy jolt]

we love trobbio for that 💔

deletes bilewater

[split sluice]

Nuh uh

Bile water’s trobbio

Now he’s enjoyable

[hardy jolt]

extra tormented trobbio

[dense wasp]

witch has some of the highest dps when using sawtooth circlet

[dense wasp]

it isnt

[digital robin]

Sawtooth is blue, and witch has lots of blue slots so it's a nice way to compliment high-risk nukes (healing and saw-dancing)

[dense wasp]

its better than the bind tools

multibinder is very easy to drop imo since its only +1 needle hit and +1 mask

[opal totem]

+1 mask is a lot

[dense wasp]

and if you drop multibinder injector band barely does anything for witch without it

if you dont want to drop that combo its only 3 sawtooth hits per bind to exceed claw mirrors which is very easy

[opal totem]

Don't you have to use pogo for sawtooth hits

[sudden plover]

This hate for Grimms lover won't be acceptable

[digital robin]

Claw also got nerfed

Claw 2.0 in particular needs full tool damage or it loses quite a bit of damage

[clever furnace]

Biled trobbio when? -Wren

[dense wasp]

you can just jump next to them

[sudden plover]

Crests need a nerf

[sudden plover]

Remove em

[opal totem]

Tbh you'll most likely have tools maxed out by the time you get second mirror

[dense wasp]

its usually a buff by the time you get base claw and you should have tools maxed by act 3

[hardy jolt]

we have mucked savage beastfly now we need biled trobbio

[clever furnace]

I want to see this in the dlc -Wren

[sudden plover]

Do you think trobbio is upset that hornet stole his mirror?

[quiet sentinel]

biled error

[hardy jolt]

dies instantly

[clever furnace]

Do you think trobbio is jealous of ass jims beutiful body? -Wren

[hardy jolt]

maybe

its okay tho cus i love you trobbio ur body is perfect the way it is

[clever furnace]

No, trobbio needs a bigger ass /silly -Wren

[hardy jolt]

🥹

[sudden plover]

Silksong x adventure time fanfic when

[clever furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291184728944410624/1410644885609910302/silksong-basketball.gif

[split sluice]

I think the godhome equivalent should be bilehome, every enemy gets mucked

[clever furnace]

[hardy jolt]

born of god and bile

[clever furnace]

I hate bile -Wren

[sudden plover]

What dlc will we get first?

[split sluice]

Ok but if the stilkin weren’t haunted they would work with hornet I think, due to having aligning goals

[clever furnace]

Steel Ass(assins) -Wren

[split sluice]

I think boss rush DLC might be top priority given what the community desires

[hardy jolt]

i wonder how the steel assassins would work if they're brought back

[split sluice]

Probably updated with each additional dlc

[sudden plover]

Steel ass dlc

Nothing changes but lugoli gets steel ass armor and does 4 masks of damage with his ass slam

[clever furnace]

I still think they will make the boss rush dlc last -Wren

[clever furnace]

🔥

[opal totem]

I have a particular feeling towards witch pogo, can you tell which

[clever furnace]

Bitch crest -Wren

I sure love when control is taken away from me for no reason

[opal totem]

Loving it

[clever furnace]

Maybe use a different crest -Wren

[opal totem]

I heard witch pogo is cool and gives iframes, is that true

[opal totem]

What's the fun in that

[clever furnace]

Not enough obviously -Wren

supposedly you're invincible when vanished

[opal totem]

But it's just a theory

[clever furnace]

but also cannot move while the animation plays so you just land on an attack sometimes

[split sluice]

Hitstops like ultrakill

[sudden plover]

Someone should beat the game with ONLY hunter pogo

No other attacks

[clever furnace]

lol

reaper's a more challenging pogo to me atp

[split sluice]

I do wonder how difficult it is to actually maintain a pogo with hunter

[clever furnace]

Hunter pogo is fire -Wren

[quiet sentinel]

not very if you just readjust slightly

[split sluice]

Wanderer definitely has the easiest pogo I think

[quiet sentinel]

its my fav pogo and then shaman is my next favorite

[clever furnace]

yea jsut hold a direction for half a sec and pogo again

[split sluice]

given how it’s just HK

[clever furnace]

Shaman underated -Wren

[quiet sentinel]

wanderer has the issue of being short

which causes hitbox clipping

especially if a boss moves up a bit, or extends a hitbox

like nyleth

youll just get hit cause the pogo keeps you so close

[clever furnace]

and a enemy hitbos ovelapping with hornet is usually 2 masks out of the blue

[opal totem]

By hitbox clipping you mean me falling onto an enemy

[sudden plover]

Personally reaper has the easiest pogo imo due to the bigger hitbox

[opal totem]

Wanderer does cause that issue

Hunter pogo beloved

[quiet sentinel]

yes thats what we are talking about

[quiet sentinel]

yea, so its a good exploration pogo but

not a very safe offensive one

but who cares about safety when wanderer gets full silk in 2 seconds

[clever furnace]

18 silk strands before the enemy can land 2 hits 🔥

[quiet sentinel]

i wish youd get shaman earlier like it kinda sucks its just act 3

its so fun