#Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)
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Even when I had materium
not sure then sorry
ships is just short for "relationship" I don't think it needs a distinction canon vs fanon
all the canon relationships are also ships
specially since they have like,,,, fans as well
just like fanon ships
though I think there are some good fanon ships as well
like Grimm x Trobbio is pretty cute hahahah
Well it's mostly used for fanon for canon I usually say they just are in a relationship
nah I think its used for both in fandom spaces
grimm x trobbio is peak
canon ships just. Rarely have fans
thats why the association is automatically that its solely fanon
No I usually see it used for fanon and it's also easier to have that difference
oohhh and I also really like Hornet x Second Sentiel
that one is absolutely good
and pretty reasonable if you dont count that
Second Sentiel is a robot
but like even Hornet sees them as something more
so
why so wokeous
Moss mother x Gruz mother
eh, actually don't answer
I agree about hornet x S.sentinel it makes good sense
certain checks trigger new dialogue, the last one being to rescue bellhart
hearing his dialogue enough times makes him share his name
he also does it after leaving to pilgrim's rest, which happens after choral chambers enemies are awaken
Guess my silksong is broken then
I definitely talked to him after bellhart ane he just loops default dialogue
The last unique one I get to see is about him doubting if he's pilgrim
The checks I remember are
Meeting Sharka
Getting Silkspear
Freeing Bell Beast
And according to the wiki, geting Swift Step
you need to talk to him every time his dialogue changes before his dialogue changes again, if you do that every time he'll giev you his name
I did
hmm, if you truly did then I don't know, might be a bug
according to the wiki there are five conversations you need to have, after interacting with shakra, before gaining silkspear, after silkspear but before swiftstep, after swiftstep but before saving bellhart, after saving bellhart, and then the name dialogue
seems you may need to bench at a different place and return twice after shakra
or in pilgrim's rest of course
I'm in act 3
RIP lance he was cool
Whos lance
Lance
Erm thats a she 
Ur mama is ragebait
Walter white falling over gif
fire
Lance -Wren
lance,,,,.....
Is the embrace the void ending the one that silksong take place after? ||(Considering you can see shade lord for like a split second during the sister of the void ending)||
probably
agreed to be either EtV or DNM. Although im personally more on EtV team
It's clearly sealed siblings how is noone seeing this
sealed siblings SS
silksong SS
it makes so much sense
true...
I find it funny when people take clips of tool assisted silksong runs where hornet obliterates enemies without getting hit and call them "lore accurate"
Because isnt it already lore accurate? Hornet isn't impossible to hit, she's just fast. You're already lore accurate
i just save scummed my dead steel soul run back into existenceš
it really shouldnt have worked but we take Ws where we can
Imagine this foucker as a hollow knight character
Mantis lords but you cant see them
Secret 5th mantis lord who was given the boot for being a fan of trobbio
The mantis lords hate trobbio
Source?
Me
The reason trobbio became tormented was because he failed at flea juggle one too many times
He has personal beef with seth
chat if anyone's delivering supplies to fleatopia on act 3
this spot is good to silk soar on, though the enemies should be cleared out first to avoid any contact damage 
It wasn't THAT hard
In not saying its hard smh
Guys I just thought of a dlc for silksong they could make what if hornet wasn't the last weaver and we see another weaver get captured and brought to pharloom (feel free to call me an idiot if they outright say there are no more weavers or something like that)
no upgraded needle with no damage modifier against lost lace
Do you think the Pharlids are aware of the Weavers, or do they just go on about their day
They are probably like how apes are to humans tbh
I think her defence is slighlty lower with 0 upgrades.... which just gives +1 damage, so it's very whatever
no hit lost lace with slab melee 
does godhome mod allow you to fight black threaded versions of bosses? I don't see an option for that
Hitless lost lace with no slab crest + no sprint + wall climb + she spawns 50 savage beastflies that also spawn its own minions
Craggler, Disgraced Chef Lugoli, Moorwing, double Moss Mother, both Savage Beastflies and Skull Tyrant can get black threaded, which doubles their hp
Craggler?
the guy that rains down acid spit in the entrance to wormways
it's a miniboss ig
Oh that thing
yknow, why couldn't hornet have done true ending herself in hollow knight
it all relies on her having a way to access dreams, so if they didnt want her to have the dream nail that would dead-end it
elegy of the whatever it's called would work as well though, presumably
oh actually, there could be some issues with the fact that hornet wouldn't have the void to end the radiance fight
there's a possibility that radiance just Wouldn't Die
yeah i was thinking about that
First of all no dream nail second of all they probably thought they weren't strong enough too
(see my following message discussing the dream nail part)
Well they didn't have that in hollowknight
I do think hornet would be strong enough generally, though
I just think that you might need that void finishing blow
Probably idk though The knight is 100% stronger then hornet though probably
Base hornet is NOT beating radiance
Remember
The knight is just batshit insane strong
Hornet in hollowknight wouldn't be able to but hornet at the end of silksong (true ending probably) would definitely be able to do it
Yeah
every radiance attack dealing 3 masks to hornet
It probably would I saw someone say the knight is just built like a tank
They probably are
hornet is said throughout all of silksong to be weaker than the HK form, isn't she?
or was it limited only to first half\
It would make sense if you need to contain something your shell would probably be stronger
I don know
This is the real reason
i certainly remember a lot of dialogue about Hornet being weaker than in her homeland
Yeah the bindings in the cage drained her power or smthing
Yeah I guess but later in the game they aren't and still take more damage so it's probably what I said
Iām still kinda sad we didnāt see bretta in silksong
I hope she gets added in dlc
What's y'all's flea bounce record?
Idk around 160 maybe
Are the little weavers of deepnest baby weavers? Or they just weaver devolving into pharlids
Babies probably
Or they could just be like a subspecies of weaver too tbh
I dont think team cherry were thinking about the weaver lore that much in that point in time tbh lol
zoteboat
yumama from coral tower
Wait is that their actual name
just go through wisp thicket š
Wait you're supposed to bring supplies to the flea festival?
Idk I never did that?
I still got the festival
Its just for money
the void is inherently stronger against light 
So the crests I use are
Hunter for juggle
Reaper for the other rwo
I have the flea juggle
2
Like the random shrieks you hear
idk if you can tell, but I am kinda over the game and just doing silly things with a objectively suboptimal build 
I don't need those rosaries
but, what, ig I could get into speedrunning if I wanted, or highscoring in the flea festival
how exactly would she break the seals of the black egg temple
dreamnail or elegy or something similar would be required ofc
assuming she gets the dreamnail, how is she going to focus the essence of the dreamers inside her
I like to imagine the grubberflies are just Grubs with big Butterfly wings
correct me if I'm wrong, but not once did she bing anything that's not of GMS origin
just like, stab em or something.
I imagine she could bind herrah if she wanted LOL
doesn't hornet also save the knight
does Emilitia think the knight looks regal because it resembles THK or because it's short (much like Pale King)
Isn't it because of the kings brand?
I don't think i ever made that connection before your message
dies she not mention the regal look without it?
Guys pharloom is a reminder of how the pale king was a pretty good king
The Saw blades where in-fact a good investment
I love how whenever someone mentions the pale king someone always mentions the saw blades
The saw blades were probably made when he went into the dream dimension he probably didn't have them before them
The only question is who the saw blades were trying to deter, since the radiance doesn't seem to care about the White Palace all that much.
Uh idk maybe the vessels so they can't get revenge or something
Was the Pale King aware the vessels were breaking out of the abyss though? Since he seemed quite comfortable with the singular abyss seal.
And also he's a really good father, so why would he ever have to worry about that 
Idk man
why is the kingsoul shattered
Probably because
The divorce 
They didn't divorce
technically, death did them part
or however the saying goes
my message disappeared?
Did it contain something forbidden like subtext formatting?
chat did you know? you can pogo a flea in juggle to send it to the ground and get a strike

oh nice, you can clawline them
rosary cannon in hollow knight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27yeLA37nOc
"I'll kill a thousand more... Will that be enough, father?"
This is the story of how Zote and Life Ender became the champions of the Colosseum and swept Bretta off her feet. It is a 100% true story if you are overly generous with two 0's.
This video uses the Hollow Point and Custom Knight mods. Hollow Point is a gun mod being worked on by TTac...
no it wasn't stopped from being sent from the sevrer
I just pressed send and it disappeared from the message box
oh dear
wouldn't it be more fitting to call it PaleSoul, since it's a sign of the alliance of two pale beings?
Pale king got the naming rights. 
lost steel soul to the platforming before the diving bell rip
i panicked and got stuck in a bad spot between like 3 of the big things instead of kill them for some reason
needle striking those guys is pretty good, their window is brief which is the perfect moment to abuse those
shaman 
all work best with shaman
@tesm cherry please add saws into red memory
this message

Guys I'm crying


I looked up silksong animations on YouTube because I wanted to see awesome animationsš
Like do I need to say more
I should've expected it
Don't do this
Please
yiep, always expect the soilers in social media
dunno what u talking about then
Evil
rule break evil?
Yes
wrufffff seee youre always around even when i wake up and get my phone x3
i just woke up pretty recently too 

As far as I know, not really
The best way to get hits in is to punish mid or post attack
Throws bricks at you
explodes violently
Ok now replace those bricks with the entire coral tower gauntlet including khann
gets erased from existance
Sorry beyond existence is lost coral tower (coral tower but everything is voided)

Canāt wait for found coral tower now
Red memory genuinely gets me tearing up
It is the peak of the game story wise
and it is beautiful to see all the callbacks
It isn't lost cuz I just found it
I just ended up first trying coral tower
Guys hot take savage beastfly 2 wasn't that hard and I'm not that good at the game y'all gotta git good
not rule breaking for youtube i guess 
just spam wanderer without thinking 
the true way
you only need to dodge jumping attacks, thatās usually enough 
since you often gonna accidentally parry, attack (and get silk), or get hit by contact damage instead of the attack

the flying things they spawn are
They were annoying sure but it wasn't that hard
hard to dodge 2 mask damage boss over 2 mask damage lava where there are 2 mask damage projectile enemies flying around
Idk it just wasn't that hard for me
no
beastfly 2 honestly isn't that bad with magma bell + silkspear to kill the summons as soon as they spawn
it's just not good
i almost beat gms on my first try, but i died to her triple damage attack at the very end⦠iāll try again in the morning, not like iāll have trouble or anything sheās one of the easier bosses imo considering sheās the last in act 2 
Dont worry abt it tbh
is this real...
i dont think so
Fuckkkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpv-3x3xBG4 it was in this video
I couldn't decide if I wanted to play Hollow Knight or Silksong so I did both
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which is lame btw i got clickbaited
i thought it was running 2 games at the same time
but its just a script that switched windows every 10 seconds
so its just disorienting and not as fun as i thought it was
Dies
basically it fucking sucks anyways
im just waiting for rando
im so excited for silksong randos
i remember watching hk randos a lot but only actually played it a few times
streams of it were really chill
skurry mentioned 
hai mae :3
have funn 

awoooo :3
I can beat hornet in a fight fr
i could never and that makes me happy
she could kill me and I'd love her still
i am Styx, yes
styx is awesome
omg I just slept for 18 hours
damn
I dont think thats normal 
nah they just eepy like tha
Cant look up someones pronouns š
oh oops soz
WHAT?! IT'S NOT?!
don't listen to them its perfectly normal
"The history"... bro this game was released 1 month ago 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ1KSZlXi9I
This Video is a Video Essay on all the skips taht changed the silksong spedrun routes and improved it by allot,this is just my personal opinion you are free to disagree and think diffrent than waht is suggested in the Video but anyway i hope this Video made you smile or helped you so enjoyā¦
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I...
Should I post the video of that guy saying skong is sucks here lol
yes
there are always that one ragebaiter that says a new popular game sucks just for clout
that or he just made that video without getting out of the marrow
Dive into my honest and unfiltered review of Hollow Knight: Silksong on Xbox Game Pass! While the original Hollow Knight set a high bar for Metroidvania frustration, Silksong fails to advance the franchise. I break down the frustratingly poor controls that severely limit fluid movement and exploration, the unfair game design that feels punishing...
This just made me level 31 lmao
I didnt watch the video yet but this already is a lil silly
isnt thats just how metroidvanias work
and. Exactly what hk was
"throw you into a labyrinth with no directions"
yeah... just like any open-world game that focuses on exploration??
and you get directions after. You explore more
š„¹
i feel like all the people who make youtube vidoes saying games suck
are all like
just bad at the game
he starts out with checking if it's 4k and if it has co-op? wtf, that's not the kind of game this is
He also says he didnt struggle with path of pain like anything in skong
what's LL again
now he thinks every game must have 4k co-op with graphics so realistic its basically real life
true final boss
omg for real
ah k
oh yea also 400+hours of filler gameplay
silksong's beatable in 60 hours? pathetic
imagine not having 400+ hours worth of content
mind the quality doesn't matter here only the quantity
gotta farm the views with history videos
also skong has no battlepass? no limited skins?
literally unplayable
Not even that. What is a "labyrinth with directions". Then is no longer a labyrinth

for real for real
Men, the Silksong ragebaiter are something else
HAHAH yeah for real
i keep getting shorts of the same dude complaining about hh arena
hi

To be honest guys silksong is a hard game but I really never had too much trouble with it I'm not saying it wasn't hard I still had trouble but I never had as much trouble as the stories I heard
(I'm close to 100%ing it)
Trying to tagebait Silksong fans, after they ragebaited themselves for years is a Sisyphean task
it at least is the fun kind of hard
i mostly struggled at the start, its definitlly not the easiest game, but i did not find it challenging personally
we rain world players though, we yearn for the difficulty 
i want harder fights
We should make them play the inv campaign 
yes
Much of the "Silksong is to hard" end up in 1 of 2 camps:
- It has annoying timewasters for no reason (shards on death, runbacks that are a bit too long, etc.)
- I did HARD THING without searching for help / exploring other areas (HH arena and Hunters March being the golden child of that) and it took too long
cant wait for the nkg and pure vessel equivelents 
i think it kinda depends for me?
if we include dlcs hk is definitlly much harder, without them
ig for me hk was still a bit harder but i am mixed
GIVE US GODHOME ā¼ļø
for real
FIRST SINNER BUT ITS THE LOST SINNER MOD
Maybe that's because it had a different slower moveset or it's because I played hollowknight before silksong so I had practice for silksong but I did worse in hollowknight
yeah rw made me very resistant to some certain
not so popular? gameplay aspects I suppose
i will be very happy about those
It's probably the latter
I love how HH is one of the better designed challenges, runback (a small flat room) and cheese-wise (3 different things to make it easier)
I want the Nightmare queen for...reasons š¼
yet people still hate it when they criticize bosses with bad runbacks

Who is hh am I stupid
If you are suffering somewhere 9 times out of 10 you have an alternative that you can do (maybe as hard, but atleast different)
high halls gauntlet
Conductor melody
I love to be thrown in a lil world box where I just have to wander around without a specific goal
wruff! paws at u

The Choir
there is only one runback that i was kinda unhappy with, but i also never died to that boss so i am not complaining
cant wait for the cogwork throuple
theres a mod with 4 cogwork dancers 
clover dancers but the targetable one changes every attack
its the khann runback, dying in the last arena is annoying
Groal is the only really bad runback (forebrothers without simple key is another annoying one)
I think the only bad runback is groal and thats like 1 min max
why, you can just skip to last arena after getting 1 time
awruff >//<
when i did groal for the first time i didnt find the secret bench so i had to go all the way from the bellway š
i've seen someone beat 10 at once
i said dying in the arena, not the boss arena
Clover is kinda bad without the arena, and super long but since you can't go to verdania afterwards atleast is a "last goodbye" I guess

I was gonna say something but forgot
error what the fuckkkkkk 
yeah you can open the fast path before entering the arena
š„
to the lizard pit with you
so you just have last arena + boss
i did the khann and hes arena first try
AAAAAAAA
i mean the one before that one, when you are climbing the tower itself
Lebron what Comotur is saying is that between Arena 3 and 4 there is a permament checkpoint that makes only A4 and Khan required afterwards
i know theres a shortcut when entering the last one
meh its not too bad, just 3 arenas and all 3 are easy, groal runback is more annoting
dude im so scared for seth in the steel soul run
If you die in Arena 3 (the hardest in my opinion) it just means you didn't finish it yet
I also died plenty of times to arena 3 and it was sooo annoying
i found those arens more annoying groals was, easy
that is not the runback, the runback is only Arena 4
because here you just, fight, groal runback is awful
ig fair enough
i never had to use the runback in that case
i just died a couple times while climbing the tower itself
Groal is annoying, you start with a nasty worm jump, have to lose time farming silk to get rid of worms or healing the thousand different enemies that can attack you
and then a harder arena than Khan A4
yeah, coral tower wasnt bad at all for me lol
watch godhome groal keeping their runback + gauntlet 
at least arenas felt very fair
bellway runback
did you not use the thingy that repels the grubs?
Savage beastfly with groal arena
you normally get that "later"
its in a way more hidden area and you have to go out of your way
i had it by the time i found groal so idk
part of the boss š
First time (when I struggled with Groal) I didn't get to Memorium yet, Groal was somewhat early and was what give me acces to long claw
i think the normal is not having it but fair lol
oh
chat, you can not get maggot'd there by clawlining, the double jumpinv
yeah you can, its just annoying
afterwards I use the same build which doesn't really have room for the worm repeller (unless I swap long claws)
i didn t get wings for a very long time, so i found groal quite late tbf
I'm surprised it isn't
Only good yellow is dice
meh i found wings 3 seconds after clawline
Since yellows are usually reserved around exploration
sorry i love anklets and i wont accept any hate anklets is peak
only good yellow is barbed
because i got abducted to the slab so i already knew where to find the rings
i see yellow ones more for exploration, so yeah worm fits there
nonono, you are forgeting about the one that makes your music louder
i found it when i was way more then half way through act 2 and defeated gms allready
very useful
Oh yeah i forgor about anklets lol
lol thats very late
LMAO š„
i did not bother getting many things, i just kinda kept going where i wasn t yet, and forgot about the slab
hello weavers
hello batfly
steel soul run didn't die to beastfly 2
i messed up silkspearing the summons and took like 3 hits but it was fine with plasmium
wooo!
7th mask now + i have fractured, i can also use 6 plasmium before the choir clappers in high halls
i did the arena second try in the speedrun and i'm way more prepared here so i think i can go for it now
probably gonna do it tomorrow though
omg I just realised, when you play the needolin the cogflies also respond
I didn't fight groal because I did the groal skip
Weak
damnit knew i should've taken a break after thread storm
š„ š„ š„
swoon
honestly i wouldnt be surprised if the knight were just black nike shoes
/silly
wtf, you can stand on this water?! (act 3)
Jesus Christ 
time for more steel souling
this time with 0 quitting allowed unless at bench 
also gonna get barbed asap, so am going wormways for cling grip and heading directly to sinner's
Oh did you lose the run??
It looked like it was going so well
Or did you win and you're just doing it without savescum now
In what order should I do the 3 heart things?
Whatever you see fit
Order doesn't matter unless you really want someones heart memento
Have you heard of our lord and savour hornet silksong
in act 3 i'm probably going to do clover dancers and not nyleth because i'm not confident enough with seth
on my speed completion run i did the vast majority of things including ||lost lace|| first try. but seth in particular took me like at least 4 tries for some reason
usually because you forget about the lunge followup after like all of his attacks
no other boss does that usually they go for another attack
so his moves kinda chain in 3s rather than 2s or 4s
that shield throw never misses me
jump over it
actually
which one
the bounce or the throw?
yeah for that one you just stay under and then dash
yea this
i just have a bad habit of instinctively dashing backwards for fast attacks even when jumping is the correct thing to do
im too busy playing watcher
and then im gonna do challenges since im back in the mood for rain world
it's so hard to just not run istg
that but with karmaleta
that jumping soon always gets me midair
like
90% of the time
i can avoid everything else fine
but will always get caught by that specifically š
i know youre meant to go under but my brain wont let me
made some quick math, I estimated that to make use of barbed you need to get hit 67.5% less than without it 
I wonder what's behind this wall and how to get there (act 3)
dunno if there's anything
time to start steel soul
speedrun achivment can be done another time
i kinda wanna try wonderer crest with it, i am used to reapers tho
i mean, both names work
yee
phew
but i mean, mispelled intentionally
very clever and funny
dude i finally beat gms on the act 3 ending what do i do now thereās an impossibly hard enemy gauntlet right after
(i canāt even change crests or tools, which SUCKS since i donāt like hunter crestās pogo much)
rip to me
rip
seventh saddest death in Silksong
hmm, get used to it, is the only thing i can say here
thatās what i thought too, i just need to get better 
git gud
and i nearly died to bell beast
idk, if i could use reaper crest maybe itād be better
no no
you need to learn hunter crest
it's for your own good
IāM SORRY IāVE BEEN MAINING IT SINCE I GOT IT
i really should be better at hunter crest, though
oh hi microbƩ 
maybe lets avoid such misspellings, raincord can sometimes be quite strict about such rules
oh is that against the rules? didnt notice
honestly i am not sure.
i would think so? idk
oh rule 5 I guess falls under that. Okay good to know then, thank you
yuh
theres only 171 messages mentioning that word??? wow
suppose it is quite. Inappropriate
big brother is always watching
the moth is always watching
Who are we watching? Sorry I keep getting lost in these memos
microbeh

I FUCKING LOVE HORNET
(the track)
I am sure everyone here fucking loves hornet too
I may love hornet, but not that much 
time for everyone's favorite part of the game, pre-swift step skong 
literally </3
hear me out guys, there is no worst crest in the game because everyone plays differently and has seperate styles. (example: i hate wanderer and witch crest even though theyāe considered some of the best in the game
)
a take only a reaper main can respect
on a serious note though i do agree
Im Mr mushroom ending
Also im 99% done with silksong and it's staying that way because I don't feel like finishing the enemy notes
oh, you can actually take trobbio's quill??? I need that
It's gonna be highly inconvenient, but I need that
?
tormented trobbio's quill obv
Why would it be inconvenient
I still use map to track my progress sometimes
How is that inconvenient though
You would need to play through the enitre game again, while avoiding buying the quill from Shakra
Passing of an age ending I just got
I'm so confused. why?
for fancy quill ofc
Yeah
Ohhh I understand now
I thought you meant getting it like your at that point would be inconvenient
Like having it
you can't take it if you already have a quill
I can't wait for them to add Lost Trobbio so we can play through the game again and get the black quill
canāt wait for them to come out and reveal that the next dlc actually needs you to have tobbioās quill or you canāt mark the map 
Peak game design
oops, sry, am out of quills -Shakra
āsorry guys, you actually need to go back into hollow knight to take isledaās quill. luckily we added a super-easy parkour section that leads to a breakable wall on the other side of deepnest. Good luck!ā -team cherry
Path of Pain the Weavers
waiting for them to make a silk road joke in the game 
courierās rasher ā silk road quest ā
Team Cherry's going real deep with this one 
deep? like deepnest from hit indie game hollow knight? 
Eventually we'll get to the point where Mossbag will be running for his money on being more absurd than the game itself
mossbag breathing a sigh of relief because heās not being sacrificed anymore
wait until zoteboat is revealed
what's a silk road, is it one of those "silkposting" jokes?
something very very not allowed
never kept up with what the hk community was doing
huh
It was a certain real world thing, where very not so good real world things where bought and sold
silk road is the trade routes back in eastern asia during the olden days
yeah, the things they sold werenāt usually ethical
Guys I fully beat silksong and don't wanna do steel soul is there any good games that are kinda like hollowknight/silksong
ori and the blind forest is pretty fun! Similar feel iād say
Death's Door is my pick
Rainworld is not like hollowknight
rain worldās super underground, idk if a lot of people in the server know about it
rain world? that one game about the silly bear thing?
The only similarity is metroidvania
rain worldās more open world/survival than metroidvania i think
Rain world isn't a metroidvania?
Silson sucks
Well it's a game where you will backtrack and you can go mostly everywhere at any time (emphasis on mostly)
i mean ori would be my top pick for this though itās a metroidvania(-esque) game, tons of parkour and fighting, and really cool graphics
will of the wisps is more fighting-oriented though
What did Silson do to you?! 
Karmelita
Also groal
Bro they are not that hard
Fair
Only one of those is justifiable
wanderer time
They are tho?
i voltvessel cheesed to be 100% honest so i donāt know what groal is like tbh
I beat groal faster than her
Well they are kinda hard but they are not hard enoygh for that
i only know terrible runback and fight arena
I mean, karmelita is hard, but they're fun, whereas groal is hard, and not fun.
Groal took me like 2 hours and I've been stuck on karmelita for like 3 and a half
Well maybe I have a skill issue
groal is not hard, they're just severely punishing
It took me like a month and a half to get act 3
What do you mean, she caved my skull in which singing a full on opera. 
Again it was hard but not getting mad at the game hard
Idk she got me upset
unrelated but whatās your guysā favorite bosses? I personally really liked phantom and second sentinel, theyāre fast but not too fast and thereās not too much to keep track of which made them fun but also easy for me 
My favorite was probably karmelita
Currently I'd say cogwork dancers because of the music and gimmick, but I'll wait for a godhome update to truly choose on best boss mechanically
Wait till this guy learns of Cogwork dancers parttwo
yeah thereās not too much to go off of for favorites if you can only beat em once right now (unless you played the entire game more than once)
Yes, I am aware of the
, I just think cogwork does the music aspect better
i liked second sentinel a lot, i just shredded it with beast and barbed bracelet lol
We don't even call him and his lover by name theyre just the gay
cogwork > clover, yeh
clover doesnt really give any significant impact for me because you already know what their deal is by that point
they donāt really have canon names, just green prince and dead lover 
if it was a really hard fight I would have enjoyed it more personally
I think they go by the Green Princes?
Green prince is his name, isn't it
something NKG-tier, since it's optional and super late game
i mean that could actually be his name, idk i just assumed it was his title?
My boss tierlist (true ending spoilers)
Also Seth where
phantom being s tier is very respectable
what about the Cursed crest
S++
chat how many crits on bell beast
or the None crest
um um um um what if you like a challenge
?
Pretty awesome
i wasnāt really thinking about cursed crest when i wrote that tbh
but were you thinking of the time you have absolutely no crest at all while going through the Slab captured 
NO IāM SORRY PLEASE FORGIVE ME š
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Is my tierlist good chat?
i like your tierlist, your taste in bosses is impeccable

anyways, it could be both.
we have lots of characters that treat their title as their name, like mask maker(s), forgedaughter, pale king (kinda a name but really just descriptor), etc
oh
,
uh, here's some hints:
Tiny Hint: ||He was left to guard something of great importance||
Big Hint: ||The highest parts of Shellwood where blocked off, both from itself and the world above||
Answer: ||There is a random breakable wall in the elevator shaft in underworks, it is the entrance to Seth||
thatās true
ig this is the best answer
I wonder if the glitched GMS crest will find use in any of the DLC's if it isn't patched into oblivion
the what
There is a funky glitch where you can keep the special cutscene crest you get in the bad ending
As it turns out, it actually has some mechanics, even if they're unintended.
the glitches in ailksong are already crazy, i wonder what else pogo storage can be used for aside from room dupes
and whatās crazy is room dupe is easy to do. not easy enough to accidentally do it, but stillā¦
Atleast the glitches in silksong aren't the terrible AAA unplayable game kinda glitches, and instead are the really hard to find really funny glitches.
I found a funny glitch where I un-skipped Final Judge 
i frequently get smashed into floors and walls, once in the whiteward arena (for shermaās thingy) i was inside the wall which made the gauntlet easy but i had to exit out cause i couldnāt actually leave the wall
i needed to fight the thing again :c
Is there any gear/ crests to use for last judge, or is she skippable
you can go the other way to avoid last judge through ||the mist via sinnerās road or bilewater||. iād use magma bell on last judge so her fire attacks do less damage.
The fun way 
barbed is always the answer
you should use reaper crest (I SWEAR IāM NOT BIASED)
how do you do the the skip with voltvessels anyway?
get off the reaper crest bro it's terrible /gen
I like hunter
ah. so, in putrified ducts, right of huntress in the spot right below that ledge, throw voltvessel spear on the ground and it should work
looking it up may help too
why do you think reaper crest is terrible? itās balanced tool-wise, largest range in the game, passive is great. the only downside is itās slow.
and the sprint attack is fun
A lot of people do not enjoy the reduced attack speed
Switch to the glitched GMS crest it's so much better 
ah, ofc, iāll make sure to try that one
hear itās great for silk conservation!
slow attack greatly hinders max damage potential, and longer range works like training wheels, it's great, sure, but you're missing out on quicker kills
may sound paradoxical, but killing the enemy slower means more damage is taken
i do understand why reaper crest isnāt good in your eyes, but i just genuinely enjoy the slower, longer-ranged attacks. i just prefer to be farther away, idk what to tell you
what is this room for?
i think itās down to personal preference. thereās no ābad crestā, itās how you play them that counts
enemies usually cover reaper's range with their attacks anyway, or retreat faster than reaper can catch them
I love reaper for the range, but I love the other crests for their abilities
again i think at the end of the day we all have opinions, iām not gonna try to convince you that reaper crest is good i just want to advocate for it
Other than wanderer, which I love for it's HK reference
lore room
it shows that lugoli really liked pickled bugs 
got swift step, finally I can move
Actually, how absurd would Reaper + Glitched GMS be, since there's no silk cap, and you can keep binding for more silk?
my brother also plays silksong and we donāt agree on anything 
uhh, gotta hit enemies for it though
and other crests allow you to hit enemies faster 
i'd say reaper bind gimmick just makes it less bad, nothing insane
Well since GMS blocks most other ways of getting silk, reaper kinda makes up for most of it.
what if there was a mod that changed hornetās sprite to have her crest show on her (needle) sprite
pretty princess shaman hornetā¦
Savage beast hornet 
the thinker architect hornet 
Just found sinners road, does that connect to bilewater these roach dog thingys scary as fuck
would love to have barbed show on the needle 
WHY ARE THEY ABLE TO CLIMB
just keep slashing at em!
huh, only 300?, did they reduce the reward for defeating this skarrgard?
i honestyl forgot 
last time it gave me 380
it depends if you buy stuff from outcast below, doesnt it?
i got like almost 500 last time
oh cool, that is how covetous pilgrims look under the shawl 
werent those the guys with the rosary necklace?
yee
Stripped of their money and cloths š
oh okay, so they're like the barkeeper. At least the shell looks like his
got cling grip, gonna go get barbed asap
a.
i am very much embarassed how my first steel soul ended
i was healing on the ground after getting kicked by the ants, and the small plant like enemy from far fields walked into me
Wait we know who says what during the dreamer projection sequences? When does it indicate that?
apparently according to a video I watched, that's seamstress pin
the citadel sent fourth chorus to hunt her down, but managed to immobilize it under that rubble
sounds reasonable to me
and it reactivates when Hornet gets drifters, which pinstresses also use. very funny
USELESS FUN FACT: you can peacefully acquire spine cores by playing the needolin nearby hokers 
what do you guys think the best blue tools are for hunter's crest?
ehhh, nothing's overly op really
I use fractured, volt filament and pin badge
needle strike's buffed by focus so it's damage gets kinda insane
what about longclaw?
Its pretty useful. More range = more hits and less damage taken = more focus = more damage
I'd trade it for fractured, yea, but I also religiously use barbed so the mask works as a good bellring that am taking too much damage
And, I'll not gonna lie, I used it to know when to quit to menu in steel soul 
not gonna do that this time though!
Ah quit to menu
The mask I use as a signal of "that's a risky play don't do that again"
actually could people here, if they see this, do a ranking of all the blue tools?
Why do people quit to menu in steel soul? That just removes the fun of the game mode
Maybe if I get to like 40 steel soul attempts I'll use that strategy. But I have been enjoying steel soul attempts overall
Time to dowland 200 pngs
Aren't there at most 60 tools in total?
because hours lost
and pain avoidance
Yeah! Its more fun to die to Moorwing for the 50th time and do the 30 minutes runback.
Jokes aside I think Steel Soul just shouldnt exist, its kinda lame
51
57
With all three types included and skills
...
More like
67
Ok?
and 21 blue tools
I kindly ask that you ping me next time, as I didn't realize this was a reply to me for a sec and I feel bad
Gotcha.
That's...
The point of steel soul?
You don't have to play it
True!
Steel Soul got more content though, so people want to play it for that
how does a reply even not reply?
Yeah thats why people save and quit 
steel soul is the defacto challenge mode
I, personally, could not say no to the challenge, even if I find it lame and painful
There's like one new character and a single fight
When 80 hours of content wasn't enough. I need it allllll, I need conteeeeent
More than nothing, no?
Yes but both things you can see online
It's also like 20 minutes max
Yeah lol. I just hope I dont need 7 more years to wait for Godhome 2
It's also a reward(?) for surviving the challenge
now, by my save and quits on first attempt I'd definitely say that I was not doing it for the permadeath, rather, I did it for the content and partly for the brag
oooh look at me I beat steel soul
with a big asterisk besides it
Silksong bossrush will be PEAK and I am more hyped for it than I was for Silksong lol
2 years max. And even then I think that's a bit pessimistic
Playing how you like it. Ain't nothing wrong with that
Like I get "I wanted the achievement so I cheesed it"
But like
Cheesing an entire new challenge just to get a single quest feels
Redundant
Like
Why cheat in something for a reward that isn't really worth cheating
Just like
Have fun with the challenge
Based on personal experiences
Well that's assuming challenge is always fun
I mainly play steel soul because I die in stupid ways so it's like "oh that was dumb lmfao"
ngl if I made Steel Soul I'd just make stuff take smaller breaks, deal more damage ans maybe have their own healing move
It is
Just not to everyone
But then it's not steel soul
That's not the point of steel soul
then what is
Why is Multibinder so low š
The point of steel soul isnt to be a "hard mode" but a "perma-death" mode
I like to play fast
Yee so people adjust the challenge to have fun. I don't quit out, cause I want to get good at silksong. But thats not for everyone
It doesn't make the game harder
It just removes the respawn
Because that's the point of steel soul
It's a "no retries"
Not a "it's harder now"
Sorry for having an opinion lol
Man I was also expressing mine 
I'm not saying you can't fucking dislike it I'm saying the fucking point isn't to be harder
Use multibinder all you want idc
Wisps too high, smh
Ture
I'm saying the point is to be a no respawn not a higher difficulty mode
Maybe actually read what I fucking said instead of instantly invalidating it with "oh it was just an opinion I'm sorry for having an opinion"
true
Because I never said you can't have a fucking opinion
I just said you misunderstood the fucking point of the gamemode
Oh wait I thought ripple was responding to me dissing multibinder lmao
No they're upset that I said the point of steel soul isn't to be harder but actually to be a no retries mode
I mean, I do think steel soul is harder, because nerves make basic things kinda difficult. For example I fucking lost to clockwork dancers, like how the fuck does that happen.
I also lost my hk steel soul to the crystal hunters in the ddark room š
Oughh, at least its only a 1 hour and 30 minutes run back
Damn, that's rough
Yes but what I'm saying is that steel soul isn't a difficulty raise but a simple removal of a mechanic
Nothing changes, other than a few new things
O lawd it just became october 14 here I should eep 
You just can't respawn
Well by that logic it would be easier, no? Because steel soul exclusive tools are really busted
Also saying that the gamemode shouldn't exist at all or should be completely different is just
Kinda dumb
Cuz there's plenty of people who really enjoy the mode, including me
Yeah,not sure why that guy said it shouldn't exist, seems a bit much
It would not be easier, cuz even with really strong tool ur likely going to have trouble cuz the game is made to be difficult and most of it is learning patterns through several attempts
Yeah.
It was especially bothersome when they said they would make the mode completely different if they could because that just
Removes the whole point of steel soul
Because the point isnt to be a hard mode
It's to be a no retries
I still think of it as hard mode
I beat lost lace gang
And if they had read what I sent, they would have known I wasn't saying their opinion was wrong, I was saying they had misunderstood the point of steel soul
I do feel bad about my response though
I got heated and upset and I was rather rude about it
I apologize to that person (I forgot their name already God dammit)
Uhh, well apologize next time you see him, easy
KILL
what do you guys think is the best silk skill? and second and third, basically please tell me what you think about all the silk skills
I like the counter a lot because it allows for instant invincibility, and for damage I'd probably like pale nails, because it homes and is quite fast
tbf that argument ,,you can see it online" could be used against the whole game, seeing it and experiencing it for yourself, is quite diffrent
||"yall you can see that act 3 is online so im going to talk to my friend who has no clue it exists about it"||
and then they come up with the most absurd reasons that its not a spoiler
I mean that's not really an argument so much as it's trolling
Fair
||looking at the manipulative kingdom of pharloom compared to hallownest is really intresting, as a whole the games contrast each other but i think its such a perfect way to really emphasize the things we couldnt see, like how hallownest was probably one of the most just you can get, the whole children thing aside, it gave people food and shelter no matter where, and didnt attempt to manipulate as much as other kingdoms may have, its still not a good society but in comparison to other kingdoms, hallownest is kinda just
maybe i forgot some of hallownests actions though so...
but i think its cool
||
actually not sure if i need to tag stuff but im too tired to not tag it lsppfda
i think the pale king really actually just wanted to see to a life eternally holy
or at least the 3 queens that taught hornet
but i dont it was only them blehh
sscary stuff
The fictional Dulvey Louisiana just like where re7 takes place...
Funny since the entirety of re7 looks like bilewater
I love and hate my friend I've had since two
"Hey bro don't spoil me ok?" my friend: "ok" (the next week) "hey turns out you see the knight in the ending cutscene for act three" (he hasn't even beaten act 1)
Silksong dies in the true ending route
WHEN DOES SHE SAY THIS
She doesnt 
Grrr
Silkpost ā¤ļø
erases trobbio
Um
No
Deepnest 2 actually
Thank you
Only thing i struggled with in deepnest was the stalking devouts tbh
I also enjoy bilewater
Its the hostile area that hates you and I love both of them
I just despise groal
Specifically
Other than that bilewater is peak
I would enjoy deepnest if I didnāt develop arachnophobia
Develop????
Fucking muckroaches and their stupid ass attacks hnghnng
Yeah genuinely I kinda built up more fear of spiders over time
Crazy
I used to be only moderately afraid now Iām deathly terrified
You can develop a fear of things via traumatic experiences, try to get me on a roller-coaster and ill freeze up like a fucking statue 
ironic
<āā roller coaster enthusiast
Anyways yeah true info
Aaanyways Iām gonna go mod ultrakill so I can play UKCLs again :3
hey guys
cant believe they added the lost in tboi into silksong
i can already tell how much more unbearable bilewater is
omg i cant even get out of moss grotto cuz of recklessness
bruh people alr have their entire 100% playthrough on this thing
did an update drop?
Patch Notes - Added support for Dualsense Edge controllers. - Improved support for various controllers on Mac. - Game now pauses when the controller disconnects. - Fixed various smaller controller issues (more fixes to come in future). - Fixed remaining instance of certain players getting stuck cursed while in the late game. - Fixed Curveclaw no...
I have a feeling I was supposed to let that fly with a cage in greyloom capture me
have you been captured by one before
It's not required, but it has some added stuff to it.
I've heard there's more than one, so you can get captured by the next one.
Ooooh ok
mmmm toilet
Shut
eternal torment
fr
oh and add lost sinner as a bonus
is it related to ||tormented trobbio||?
no its mod that make everything instakill
Radiant silksong?!?! 
I keep thinking of a funny joke mod idea that replaces every boss with trobbio,
hell yea
the trobbiopocalypse
where every boss is trobbio
and cogwork dancers are two trobbios
LL is Lost Trobbio
and the groal the great minions are also trobbio cuz why not
That might actually make groal better
abbreviate the final boss name plz
yea
oppsies 
cant have people far into act 2 and get spoiled on the true final boss lol
silksong, but every enemy is trobbio
nah not enough
silksong, but every enemy and npc are all trobbio
except sherma sherma survives the trobbio
Recursive trobbio where all dropped items are trobbio? 
cuz he is in fact the most powerful character in the game
yes
no more dash and cling grip
thry're just trobbio instead
Not even the Glitched GMS crest? 
nop
trobbio as well
its the trobbio crest now
the only thing that isnt trobbio is sherma and the pimpillo
Do we know why Trobbio becomes depressed when everything goes to shit?
Because he's Trobbio,
(The end of the world is a justifiable reason to become depressed in all honesty)
drama queen as well
We beat the shit outa him -Wren
I heard a headcanon that the weavers banished the troupe and Trobbio was left behind
Now my headcanon is that Grimm and trobbio were gay lovers but Trobbio was forgotten because the troupe is banished
This probably isn't true but
It's funny
So
Yes
I mean, this would've ended in tragedy regardless, seeing as Grimm needs to sacrifice himself for the Nightmare heart.
So in other words, this head cannon is doomed yaoi, which is funnier. 
The true reason Trobbio is depressed
I need an image that's just low quality png's of Grimm and Trobbio and it just says "doomed yoai"
Omg i need that so bad -Wren
Lets see what mspaint can cook up

Ignore the knight behind trobbio
He's just there
Thanks I'm committing theft thank you
I'll get my revenge eventually 
For what? Sharing peak?
what if we get a second sequel and itās Hollow Knight: Doomed Yaoi and it was in the dating simulator format and you were trobbio and you could date grimm. just saying 
āhollow knight: ragebaitā and itās just regular silksong with the controls inverted
and tripple damage
no damage is doubled everywhere, sometimes two, sometimes four
GMS 6 damage
every lace fight is lost lace, if a boss has a lost variant itāll be that instead, fourth chorus is quadrupled, sister splinter has a sister, and phantom is straight up invisible and uou need to guess where she is
groal remains the same except the upper bilewater bench is removed

also you have cursed crest the whole time and yarnaby straight up kills you if you disturb her
and steel soul
give skurry 5 hours and theyāll 100% the game

Not

Am I like stuck forever as cloakless hornet




