Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[quiet sentinel]

also vuly

this is a spoiler thread

[exotic cobalt]

yea i noticedd

[quiet sentinel]

you should probably not be here

[exotic cobalt]

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tru

[quiet sentinel]

i dont want you getting spoiled

you can share progress in my dms :3

[exotic cobalt]

okie :3

[quiet sentinel]

[exotic cobalt]

didnt read any messages here so

[quiet sentinel]

i forgot most of it

[exotic cobalt]

uppy,,

[quiet sentinel]

i dont even remember there being dialogue

maybe only between karmaleta and prince since they can actually talk unlike the corpses x3

[wise monolith]

true

wawa

[clever furnace]

looking at gilly dialogue, it seems that there's a chance that the hearts are actually sort of the core of their respective biomes, so I wonder what's gonna happen to them after some time, will they just disappear and become part of the wasteland?

[wise monolith]

well verdania was regrowing

so..

[clever furnace]

wonder why hornet didn't go take the heart of the moss grotto

[wise monolith]

i think it could just be

the bugs themselves

[wise monolith]

hm

[barren ingot]

west sounds boring and wastelandy

[wise monolith]

on one hand

[barren ingot]

east could just be More Regions of any kind

[tawdry osprey]

eastward sounds interesting for me

[barren ingot]

east would be the most classic silksong regions like we've already seen

pale lake could have some interesting stuff

down is Abyss ofc, and I don't know what all could be interesting down there

[wise monolith]

i think eastward is my best bet but downward...

[barren ingot]

maybe Abysshome (godhome after the ending where it gets fucked up by the abyss)

[clever furnace]

uhhh, abyss city

[tawdry osprey]

abysstopia

[broken plover]

Hornet fistfights Zote to the death in the new Silksong movie

[barren ingot]

shade lord/knight final boss would be the best fanservice ever

[wise monolith]

tbf we still dont know if thats canon iirc,,,

[barren ingot]

shade lord is in silksong's ending, no?

[tawdry osprey]

also upwards sounds interesting but also too fanmade to add anything up

like it would just sound fake

[split sluice]

PLEASE

[wise monolith]

i feel that the shade lord is just
the void in full form but
idk

[split sluice]

Shade lord is a fight I would love to see

[wise monolith]

true

you know what i want?

[barren ingot]

new and improved Voided Radiance fight™: literally just the radiance with the basic void attacks from act 3

[wise monolith]

a post game dlc

[hardy jolt]

dlc where hornet fucking dies and goes to heaven

[barren ingot]

that's what everyone has been wanting, including me 🙏

[tawdry osprey]

i can see this, and the final boss is Found Lace

[wise monolith]

true

[barren ingot]

why would lace fight us

we're buddies.

[wise monolith]

i want to see them rebuilding

[wise monolith]

why is lace dead??

[barren ingot]

lace is not dead what are you talking about 🤨

[tawdry osprey]

ok, Lost Radiance it is then

[split sluice]

I think if there is a shade lord fight there shouldn’t be a full defeat of it, but instead seperating the knight from it

[wise monolith]

????

[hardy jolt]

absolute grandmother... absolute silk.. uh

[split sluice]

Pale mother silk

[wise monolith]

we already see the knight seperate from void lord no?

[wise monolith]

she is already pale!!! </3 /silly

[hardy jolt]

sure that works i guess

[barren ingot]

very true

[hardy jolt]

shes paler

[split sluice]

Like fully splitting the knight off from it

[wise monolith]

maybe

would be awesome sauce

[barren ingot]

this isnt even a theory

what are they talking about

[wise monolith]

game theory has gotten...

[barren ingot]

Subjective Opinion: Is Silksong ACTUALLY Too Hard?

[wise monolith]

how do i put this?

lame /silly

[hardy jolt]

very real

[split sluice]

I don’t think the shade lord at the point we see it by silksong can be fully defeated in it’s current state

[tawdry osprey]

a lot of people say Grandmother silk instead of Grand mother silk, so just add the actual grandmother as a dlc secret final boss

[wise monolith]

i want to see more of the void ecosystem

like

[hardy jolt]

grand grandmother silk

[wise monolith]

...

[split sluice]

Are you talking generally the abyss or specifically the void?

[wise monolith]

i cant talk about the story important end game area in act 3 </3

[wise monolith]

both?
mostly the void

[wise monolith]

i get why but
i will still slugscrem

[barren ingot]

this reminds me of how I used to think the christian god canonically had a mother because, in elementary school, me and friends would play "rock paper scissors anything" where you can say anything but it has to beat whatever the other person said before, and it would end up with someone doing god and then someone else doing god's mom as the ultimate counterplay

[wise monolith]

oo0s PFFT

[barren ingot]

I don't think anyone ever beat that

[split sluice]

The void ecosystem seems to just be the vessels and void tendrils

and now a dead pale being

[wise monolith]

i suppose

[tawdry osprey]

lol, just add ummm gods granmother then
or did nobody come up with gods granmother

[wise monolith]

but

[barren ingot]

ignoring the concept of Abysshome, I think my order of preference would be:

1. Up
2. East
3. Down
4. West

[wise monolith]

exploring the voids depths would be so cool

[barren ingot]

exploring the surface sounds neat.

[barren ingot]

the act 3 void enemies dont fill me with much hope

but I could see some thing where you get like, an upgraded diving bell from the diving bell guy and use that to descend into the abyss

for whatever reason

[split sluice]

THE KNIGHT

[wise monolith]

i was more thinking something to do with the flower

[barren ingot]

really any of those top 3 are somewhat interchangable, west is the only boring one

[wise monolith]

but that was used up

[wise monolith]

TRUE

[tawdry osprey]

yeah i was about to say the flower is just gone so the abyss is too big of a threat to actually reenter idk

[barren ingot]

postgame cutscene where hornet sits on a bench, looks up, and spots like 5 of them growing on some random ceiling before facepalming

wow lol I said hunter

rain world am i right

[split sluice]

hunter HK

[wise monolith]

guys remember when people thought the knight was like
perfect
or near perfect

[wise monolith]

KOISHBDF

[barren ingot]

..in what regard?

[wise monolith]

like ppl thinking ghost didnt have a personality </3

[barren ingot]

I mean, it's Technically something you could go back and forth over

but yeah I don't think our knight is hollow or whatever that means

[wise monolith]

going off of void ending

[clever furnace]

still dunno what to make about the "given focus" form of the knight being flashed very briefly on the ending cutscene

[barren ingot]

probably just some variation of "the knight unified the void sea under a single mind/will"

[wise monolith]

the knight def has while ig isnt a personality?
but still it is a mind to think and stuff

[barren ingot]

void heart type business

I don't think you need void heart for godhome ending but that's besides the point

[wise monolith]

and a will >>:3

[split sluice]

Ok I just came up with an idea

[clever furnace]

you do need it to enter p5

[barren ingot]

hornet got the DLC in the will, rest in piece john knight

[wise monolith]

shade lord?

[clever furnace]

god of gods

[split sluice]

If there ever was an act 4 to silksong, I would want it to be hallownest

[tawdry osprey]

oh really?

[wise monolith]

yep

[barren ingot]

what would hornet have to return for?

I couldn't imagine much, she seems to regret spending so much time there

second sentinel dialogue and all

I am curious about what could've happened between hornet and the cured hollow knight post-godhome ending

[split sluice]

Maybe a permanent end to the void’s agression?

[wise monolith]

i think having hornet revisit hallownest would be cool but a focus on it wouldnt be good
like an entire act 4 feels
bad

[wise monolith]

they could do that in pharloom

[barren ingot]

chat what is the void a metaphor for

it has GOTTA be a metaphor

void screams metaphor

[wise monolith]

void is a metaphor how nothing can be perfect, using an empty thing to mold it to your will will only lead to pain

[split sluice]

Ok but the void was never that agressive in hk compared to silksong

[wise monolith]

?

[barren ingot]

isnt the aggression in silksong specifically the fault of GMS

doin whatever she is doin to protect lace in act 3

[wise monolith]

[split sluice]

Yeah, but also the void tendrils seem more violent

[wise monolith]

she isnt void

[split sluice]

Considering how they directly go after platforms

[wise monolith]

hmm true.,,,,,,.

but again

GMS

[barren ingot]

I wonder if hornet's height would mess up some of hollow knight's level design

maaayybee? I feel like the doors are typically tall enough

[barren ingot]

mandatory scuttlebrace or whatever it's called 🧠

[wise monolith]

worse comes to worse they add a new way to traverse

or redesign

[split sluice]

IIRC silksong became it’s own game because hornet wouldn’t fit

[barren ingot]

baby hornet prequel dlc

that way you can use knight height

it's foolproof

we can learn how to nail with the bee friends.

[clever furnace]

yea, hornet's height is too off the scale of hallownest

[barren ingot]

and like, talk to the pale king or whatever

[wise monolith]

how did she get through hallownest </3

[split sluice]

I think more pale king content would be peak

[clever furnace]

scuttebrace

[split sluice]

Wait…

[wise monolith]

why didnt the pale king just
hate his child is he stupid??

[unreal hedge]

regarding act 3, interesting note is that much of it is internally referred to as black threads

[unreal hedge]

(obviously non-canon)

[wise monolith]

oh yeah

you can see

[barren ingot]

I mean, it'd make enough sense for it to be threads that serve as a conduit from the void upwards

they are very straight

[wise monolith]

the threads get soaked by void

you can see it

[split sluice]

The hollow knight likely has memories of Pale king, and hornet has elegy of the deep…

[wise monolith]

wait

this will be the end of the time travel DLC

[clever furnace]

it's instinct for creatures to love their offspring

[wise monolith]

we explore all 3 regions and then we go to knight

[wise monolith]

it was a joke shouldve specified hrugdyfr

[split sluice]

Pale king and pure vessel dual boss fight

[wise monolith]

using unspecified means

[split sluice]

The power of Bell beast

[clever furnace]

y'all think godhome 2 would actually work for silksong?

[unreal hedge]

not very universal biologically; most insects do not actually participate in parenting and just leave the children alone

[wise monolith]

they get another fl;ower by killing 5 more dudes of the past actually then they go to blue remembering /j

[wise monolith]

yes

i hope they do something new instead of just god home tho

[split sluice]

“Higher beings, these words are for you alone: Bell beast OP, team Cherry please nerf”

[wise monolith]

WRONG

explodes yoy

[barren ingot]

unless there's some lore that implies the godseeker in hallownest is The Last one or some weird stuff like that, then yeah sure

Voidhome™ seems viable enough

[wise monolith]

maybe we find the corpse of the uhm er godseeker

[split sluice]

Ok but if bell beast in gameplay is fully lore accurate, she’s hardier than GMS

[wise monolith]

then we use the elegy of the deep

[barren ingot]

how would it even get there

presumably pharloom is quite phar away

[wise monolith]

uhm uh the void didnt want them

[barren ingot]

phar phar away even

[clever furnace]

i hope the equivalent of bindings will be done in a more fun way

[split sluice]

So was hallownest to them

[barren ingot]

binding of the crest: slab loadout

have fun!

[wise monolith]

did it loom in the distance?

[split sluice]

I think hallownest is a better name than pharloom

[wise monolith]

hallow nes

the nest that is hallow

phar loom

uh

cant think of anything for pharloom

hallow nest makes more sense which i think makes it better

cant think of any reason pharloom would be named that

[hardy jolt]

silk oriented kingdom and loom

[wise monolith]

ok but phar??

[hardy jolt]

um

its very

far

from hallownest

trust

[wise monolith]

lmao

hallownest geocentric theory

[wise monolith]

i mean
not really

hornet is just not actually attempting to kill her

thats what me thinks

(And you fight bell beast in the first part of the game where you are weak sooo)

also

i dont think GMS really means to be fought

[hardy jolt]

shade lord vs goam who wins

[wise monolith]

he strength comes from threads and controll

[tawdry osprey]

who goam

[hardy jolt]

those worms in forgotten crossroads

[wise monolith]

this guy

[tawdry osprey]

oh

didny know they did have a name

[wise monolith]

these guys are the real strongest in the universe

[tawdry osprey]

i thought it was just a way to say groal

[split sluice]

the great

[foggy grotto]

I am confused by this quest

I am outside what I believe to be the ||"cage of one who raged against the silken lie"||

but nothing is happening

and I see nothing to do

[hardy jolt]

do you hear anything

[wise monolith]

honestly one of my favorite theories about dlc is fighting the dead pinmaster

[foggy grotto]

nope

[wooden sun]

I think you have to do the terms in order.

[foggy grotto]

oh

well that would explain it

[opal totem]

Yeah you do

[foggy grotto]

ty

[wooden sun]

||Mushroom Man our beloved||

[hardy jolt]

oh

i didnt register that th others werent done already 💔

[quiet sentinel]

[foggy grotto]

||no clue where the first term would be, I'm at the top of cogwork core and I have no other ideas as to where this could be||

is there a ||chapel that I haven't found yet or something ||

I know that I'm missing a crest

[opal totem]

There's a chapel you forgot about

[wooden sun]

||This chapel is one you certainly found||

[opal totem]

Likely also related to the missing crest

[foggy grotto]

ok I have one idea then

after which I'll just check all the other chapels I guess

[wooden sun]

Hint: ||The only chapel that welcomed hornet with open arms, as the last of her energy ran out||

[foggy grotto]

oh right that is technically a thing

wait

no that doesn't make sense either

[wooden sun]

I hope I didn't put the wrong idea in your head because I'm known for doing that

[foggy grotto]

well we'll find out soon I guess

ok I found it

[wooden sun]

[quiet sentinel]

wruff

[foggy grotto]

I get the feeling this is an elaborate joke set up

[wise monolith]

found this again

they will wither like fall plants then regrow
thats hwo i see it

[foggy grotto]

ok I am confused again

[wise monolith]

me thinks we see the stages of this will all 3

karmilla is recent

khann is in the middle of dying

[foggy grotto]

I already went to ||cradle|| and ||last judge||

[wise monolith]

and the plant l;adys region has regrown

[opal totem]

When my chapel is fallen

[barren ingot]

||past cradle's peak.||

[wooden sun]

||Further, far far above.||

[foggy grotto]

[barren ingot]

want a bit of direct advice?

[foggy grotto]

I know where it is probably

unless it's in ||terminus for no reason||

[barren ingot]

||You'll need to use Silk Soar.|| <- Here's the direct advice for if you get stuck and want to use it later

[foggy grotto]

I have done that climb too many times

this will be my 4th time going through there

[barren ingot]

elaborate?

just wanna make sure we're thinking of the same area

[opal totem]

Just use the shortcut then

[foggy grotto]

went through once cause I was curious what was there

[foggy grotto]

THERE'S A SHORTCUT??

[opal totem]

Did you not open it

[foggy grotto]

where is it supposed to be

[barren ingot]

||anyways, the mushroom spot is at the very highest spot before you reach the top room.||

[foggy grotto]

||terminus?||

[opal totem]

I think you can also apply voltvessels skip on it

Higher

[barren ingot]

nop

[foggy grotto]

I was talking about the shortcut

[barren ingot]

still nop

[barren ingot]

||oh yeah, you ned to do it in order if you aren't aware.||

[queen trench]

quick question (my controller's repaired so I can finally play silksong again) did they change the courier's quests to no longer have a time limit?

[foggy grotto]

yeah I figured it out

just last one left

[barren ingot]

oh I see now that someone told you

[opal totem]

Only rasher had time limit

[barren ingot]

ok describe exactly how you're getting to this high area you're talking about

[queen trench]

wait, the others didn't? I thought they did but alright

also reply ping pls

[opal totem]

Others are damage based

[barren ingot]

I thought the basic camp ones used a timer as well?

just not the other quest ones

[opal totem]

Pretty sure they didn't

[wooden sun]

Only rasher has the time time limit, as it's the only one that has the dripping particles indicating it's going bad

All others will only de-increment with damage or slamming you face into a wall.

[barren ingot]

yknow what would be a funny useless gimmick

if going to mount fay froze the timer on the rasher

for ✨immersion✨

[foggy grotto]

OMG

[wooden sun]

That would imply the much more dangerous going to Deep Docks and having it decay faster

[opal totem]

Maybe it already works this way but no one tried

[foggy grotto]

I ACCIDENTLLY TRIGGERED THE ENDING

NOOOOOOO

[opal totem]

How do you trigger the ending accidentally

[foggy grotto]

WHY DOES PRESSING DOWN DO THAT

[barren ingot]

how does one accidentally- yeah

[wooden sun]

which ending?

[barren ingot]

I don't know what you're talking about actually

[foggy grotto]

in act three

[barren ingot]

that doesn't help

[foggy grotto]

you can ||claim the act two ending||

||where GMS should be||

I was trying to do the ||up spear thing||

[opal totem]

That's not what happened

[wooden sun]

||That's a spell||

[foggy grotto]

and for some fucking reason

[foggy grotto]

WHAT

[barren ingot]

yeah no you didnt get an ending lol

[wooden sun]

Let the animation play out, it gives you a silk skill

[foggy grotto]

...

[barren ingot]

a very nice one

[foggy grotto]

I must have closed out the game the first time I did that

[wooden sun]

[barren ingot]

does it or rune rage have higher DPS? 🤔

I hear more people talking about rune rage

but it seems very good as well

[opal totem]

Unlike rune rage it hits

[foggy grotto]

apparently thread storm is supposed to have more

[barren ingot]

wild

[foggy grotto]

unless the youtube video I watched is outdated

[barren ingot]

I dont recall hearing about any significant nerfs or buffs to silk skills

so it's probably still relevant

[opal totem]

Rune rage and sharp dart got buffed, thread storm nerfed

[foggy grotto]

I see

[barren ingot]

these wiki writers are thinking with their whole brains

genius plot

[foggy grotto]

ok I should probably equip wanderer

[hardy jolt]

||me when i accidentally go to the abyss then accidentally dive in it then accidentally kill lost lace then accidentally silk soar out of it /silly||

[wooden sun]

||The ending cutscene plays out, and lace is like "You little arrogant weaver, saving me despite all I've done?", while Hornet's like "huh "||

[hardy jolt]

[wooden sun]

[wise monolith]

LOOK AT THIS WIKI PICTURE WHAT

[clever furnace]

pale nails do 1x needle damage each for 3x needle damage total, exactly the same amount as a silkspear

[wise monolith]

the paint red circles 🥹

[barren ingot]

every wiki page starts somewhere

[wise monolith]

this is like the only one that looks like this too 🥹

[wooden sun]

You didn't add those?

[barren ingot]

be the change you want to see in the world

add a better image

[clever furnace]

honestly I rather use silkspear and miss out of my own mistake rather than rely on auto-targetting

[sudden plover]

The bugs are MORE evil now!?

[clever furnace]

silkspear also pierces

[barren ingot]

my personal favorite was the dash silk ability

[clever furnace]

sharpdart

[barren ingot]

because it gives damage but doubles as an evasive maneuver if you get cornered

[opal totem]

If rather cry for silkspear hitbox width buff

[barren ingot]

invincibility is all I need

shade dash from hollow knight Two

[sudden plover]

Question

I WANT THE FUCKING FESTIVAL WHEN DO I GET THIS SHIT

[wise monolith]

you know what

yeah!!

[clever furnace]

get all fleas

[wise monolith]

YEAH!

IM GONNA BE THE CHANGE I WANNA SEE IN THE WORLD!

[barren ingot]

(and trigger act 3)

[wise monolith]

IM HEAT FLAMESMAN!!

[clever furnace]

nods

[sudden plover]

I've done that

What now

[clever furnace]

all fleas

[barren ingot]

talk to Vog if you havent already and get the maps

[wise monolith]

is this a good wiki pic

[clever furnace]

oh, flea caravan must also move to pale lake if they haven't already

[sudden plover]

I have lake, vog, piece of shit, and act 3

[clever furnace]

all fleas then, all 30

[foggy grotto]

well that was certainly a quest

[sudden plover]

...

[foggy grotto]

hardest platforming section in the game for NOTHING

[sudden plover]

You need all fleas to get to the lake

[foggy grotto]

you don't

you can be missing a few

[sudden plover]

You don't?

Damn

Idk they said even the stragglers were brought back

[foggy grotto]

oh wait I can't read

you're not talking about triggering act three

whoops

[wise monolith]

ok i dont know if i can edit uhm

i will not be the change i want to see in thre world ig

[sudden plover]

FLICK YOURE ALIVE

MY FRIEND

[wise monolith]

oh ok i figured it out woop woop!

[sudden plover]

Even the birds are mad what the fuck

[wise monolith]

i have become the change i wanted to see in the world

[split sluice]

Silksong act ranking
3) Citadel of song, feels the most tedious of all of them, and while the new areas all look nice, they all blend together and you spend far too much time in choral chambers
2) Pharloom, a great introduction act, areas are all visually distinct from each other, Bosses are a strong set, and exploration feels like it’s at its peak

1. Abyss, this act is bordering on perfection, my only complaints are that the void enemies are a little too tanky and there aren’t many new areas. Regardless this act has some of the best bosses in all of video games, and the new areas that are introduced are some of the most vibrant and stunning areas. That is all without bringing up what solidifies this act for me: the story, the void feels present, it’s aggressive and it’s tearing the world down, compared to the more subtle play of act 1 and 2, you can well and truly feel how the void has changed things. and to top it all off, is that ending that is a beautiful sendoff to the two hollow knight games colliding in such an incredible way.

[opal totem]

That but reverse

[split sluice]

Me when half of my typing was act 3 focused (I may like the act idk)

[opal totem]

I like side content

So act 3 kinda smells

[split sluice]

Fair

Act 3 is definitely the act that focuses the most on the main story

It kinda makes sense there wouldn’t be much side content because hornet is dead set on stopping the void

[opal totem]

I wish at least it had more exploration

[split sluice]

Yeah that’s one of my two main issues with the act

There were really only two new areas added

[clever furnace]

i like the ending but not the final boss

[barren ingot]

I don't mind act 3 at all from a story perspective, but it does make postgame a lot less enjoyable

hence why a new postgame DLC would be great

act 2's worldstate is just more fun as it stands

[clever furnace]

since godhome was mentioned earlier i hope we're not just going to be getting like..absolute lost lace or something at the end

[opal totem]

We need absolute gms

[split sluice]

if there was one thing I could change about the final boss, it would be making lost lace the penultimate boss, and bringing in the shade lord as the actual final boss

[opal totem]

Or having voided gms join mid battle

[split sluice]

Really just some kind of actual higher being participation

[clever furnace]

the fight itself is great but it's just so disappointing the final boss is the third time fighting the same character

[opal totem]

I sure hope we don't get another boss rush ending where we defeat the void without ever touching lace and gms

[split sluice]

I do think lost lace is important from a story perspective, but there needs to be something else

[clever furnace]

i wish it was more like sekiro if you know how the final boss there is

[split sluice]

and I think given how void is leaking in, the shade lord is the perfect fit to take up the final boss role instead

Maybe as a last ditch effort by the void to consume all three beings in the cocoon

Also instead of a standard and intense boss theme, I think the shade lord’s theme should be abyss ambience with some of the OG hollow knight motif

[barren ingot]

I can't think of a reasonable explanation for why we'd be fighting shade lord/knight in the first place unfortunately

[foggy grotto]

yeah ||void seems chill with hornet as per cutscene after beating lost lace||

it would also feel weird imo

why are we randomly fighting the void for no reason at the very end of the game

[opal totem]

Idk because void evil

[foggy grotto]

the introduction of the void in act three already feels a bit out of left field

[clever furnace]

shade lord also feels too expected but i wish there was some other final boss instead of it being just lace 3

[foggy grotto]

it should have just been a lace/gms duo fight

I assumed that's what phase two would be when I fought her

[distant holly]

why would siblings fight

hornet fights in godhome because of godseekers

[hardy jolt]

speaking of the void stuff

the voidheart says the void is united in hk but in silksong shit is NOT united

the knight had to come themselves and tell the rest of the void to not kill hornet

[opal totem]

Proof that silksong is a prequel

[clever furnace]

Before bed I just want to randomly say
needle strike good, use when able
that's all byee

isn't it just the knight being able to unite the void instead of the void as a whole being united

[foggy grotto]

the knight was stuck in the collapsed worm for a while

hornet actually does all of silksong before coming back to rescue him

[clever furnace]

that is why they become the "shade lord"

[hardy jolt]

probably my interpretation from hk was just that the void was all connected and is 1 entity

[foggy grotto]

I always read into it as tk being united with the void

and the void is comprised of many different parts

shades, the goop, shade lord

[distant holly]

hollow knight: white palace. the whole game is platforming challenges

[clever furnace]

hollow knight but celeste 2

[foggy grotto]

you know you could totally replace madeline with hollow knight in celeste and it makes complete sense

[distant holly]

ain’t that’s what used many times in actual dialogues too

[barren ingot]

prequel where you play a ragegame as The Hollow Knight, but there's a facetracker accessory and if you ever show any emotion during the whole game you get the bad ending

[foggy grotto]

everybody talking about prequels and sequels

what about presentquels

[opal totem]

What about official AU

[foggy grotto]

true when are we adding downpour to silksong

[distant holly]

mister mushroom quest

Over camp collapsed to the black thread plight

[foggy grotto]

hollow knight is in desperate need of More Slugcats

Expedition Mode

Challenges

Jolly Coop

Expedition

and Safari Mode

[opal totem]

If there were slugcats in hollow knight they'd be very killable

[wooden sun]

How would any of that work

[foggy grotto]

expedition is simple, you just play the game with certain objectives

more slugcats also simple, just add slugcats

more of them

challenges are also pretty obvious I think

just add a bunch of custom made arenas accessible via the main menu

jolly coop is just multiplayer

[barren ingot]

ermm no they'd be like, really big

[foggy grotto]

safari mode is just free cam

shrimple as

[foggy grotto]

true

I'm glad somebody finally recognizes the value in my 50 foot tall slugcat headcanon 🥹

[opal totem]

What about 100 foot tall hornet

[hardy jolt]

i wish

i need my favorite games to have the side content that rain world has

[foggy grotto]

uhhhh spoiler

lol

[hardy jolt]

this is still a no rw discussion space btw

thread from offtopic gen

[wooden sun]

oh right, sorry!

[foggy grotto]

[distant holly]

the knight or vessels aren’t all of the void in existence.

the knight only united vessels

[hardy jolt]

the voidheart doesnt say the void from the vessels it says the void

also the statue guy that gives shade cloak calls you lord of shades

i doubt bros a vessel

[wooden sun]

Also the godhome ending has the knight uniting much more than vessels, he pulled up the entire ocean

[hardy jolt]

its not that they only unite the vessels of the void its just that the void isnt as connected as a whole like i thought

[wooden sun]

Maybe it's like higher beings where the void heart can only effect things generally around it?

[hardy jolt]

hmm maybe :3

[wooden sun]

Actually, there should still be some influence seeing as the knight could tell where hornet was.

[clever furnace]

even radiance's influence was limited to hallownest

[wooden sun]

even if they couldn't control the void from such a distance

[hardy jolt]

maybe all the void is connected but some of the void just doesnt wanna listen to shade lord and they do their own things 😭

[quiet sentinel]

wruff :3

[clever furnace]

knight just took 3 acts to reach pharloom, the void is pretty hard to map

[quiet sentinel]

hornet is void

[hardy jolt]

wruff

[quiet sentinel]

[clever furnace]

still feels hard to point out any criticism i have with silksong at all because some people act like it's flawless and take it way too personally

[distant holly]

, an easier explanation is the knight just united siblings and potentially some other void beings in hallownest, that would be strong enough to beat radiance.

[barren ingot]

eh? I feel like I haven't seen too much of that here

[clever furnace]

you're safe here, if anyone "takes it too personally" just let snaff know

not talking about here, just people in general

[quiet sentinel]

yuh

[barren ingot]

ah

[clever furnace]

i despise the hollow knight community tbh

[barren ingot]

I try my best not to accidentally stare too deeply into The Internet

[wooden sun]

The internet stares back even when I'm not staring into it

[clever furnace]

i mostly had good experiences with its art community but everywhere else there's just so many elitist assholes

[wooden sun]

It terrifies me

[clever furnace]

this is the rw community though

[quiet sentinel]

yea i remember asking for help with pop a few years ago in hk discord and got flamed for not being able to do it

fun experience

[wooden sun]

What's pop again?

[quiet sentinel]

path of pain

[wooden sun]

ah

[clever furnace]

rw community has been mostly pretty nice so i feel fine with sharing my thoughts here

[clever furnace]

"I sure love being completely safe to be as much of a pos as I want behind my screen"

I would never treat my fellow humans that way though, I don't see the point

[distant holly]

i dunno, but ain’t you kinda equally safe to ignore them

[wooden sun]

I wish my brain worked like that.
Unfortunately I now hold years of spite due to things that happened only once.

[opal totem]

Our hate truly is forever

[clever furnace]

once again bilewater proves itself to be peak

[barren ingot]

Fun Fact: studies indicate that the widely-believed thing of "people act poorly online due to anonymity" thing is mostly untrue on a statistical level, and those who act rude online tend to just be rude people IRL on average

[clever furnace]

damn

so people are indeed fucked up and evil

[wooden sun]

indeed

[clever furnace]

anyway what's y'all favorite build

[wooden sun]

bomb

[distant holly]

eiffel tower

[clever furnace]

I'll forever love this hunter glass cannon build

[hardy jolt]

volt filament shaman crest

pale nails pale nails pale nails pale nails pale nails

[quiet sentinel]

truth

[clever furnace]

lol
where you getting all that silk though

[hardy jolt]

druids eyes and wacking opponents

[quiet sentinel]

i flawlessed lost lace with pale nails volt can confirm its peak

[hardy jolt]

yessss its so braindead i love it

[quiet sentinel]

awruff :3

[clever furnace]

oh yea, d.eyes exists to unpunish mistakes am to barbed brained

[hardy jolt]

wrufff :33

[quiet sentinel]

i wish the flea charmed worked always and not just at full health

itd be so much more vialble to use..

[hardy jolt]

truee

[wooden sun]

Why is that the gimmick for both the max collectable charms between the games

[distant holly]

people yearn for spell twister

[wooden sun]

"Here's a cool ability, but you only get to use it if you don't suck"

[distant holly]

[hardy jolt]

atleast it will be good for radiants when godhome comes out

[opal totem]

Barbed bracelet in question

[distant holly]

they don’t conflict

[opal totem]

I don't think egg should work always but activation condition could've been more generous

Like being at 9+ silk

[clever furnace]

nuking enemies with a needle strike willa never not be fum

[quiet sentinel]

i purrrobably still wouldnt use it...

[hardy jolt]

awww but you get to spam spells more

[quiet sentinel]

needle strikes stink ><

[hardy jolt]

how much less silk do they cost anyways

[quiet sentinel]

if there was a charm that automatically charges one for you when youre not attacking

[opal totem]

1

[distant holly]

silk lantern thing is probably better generally

[quiet sentinel]

then maybe itd be cooler....

[hardy jolt]

eh thats still cool

[opal totem]

That's 25%

It is cool

[wooden sun]

Wait, that means max silk hearts can now regen an entire spell

[opal totem]

Lantern is useless if you're not playing extremely passively

[wooden sun]

So theoretically you can have endless parries

[quiet sentinel]

yes but even with weavelight its still kinda slow

[hardy jolt]

with weavelight you still can

[clever furnace]

WHAT
just hold the button ‼️

[quiet sentinel]

id know because i kept it on for a few hours

[quiet sentinel]

uncomfortable + keyboard ghosting

[distant holly]

when you’re charging attack the enemy would already hit you

[clever furnace]

ah, trye

[distant holly]

or you could hit twice with normal attacks anyway

[wooden sun]

In all honesty the Nail Arts from HK felt a lot better to use then the Needle strikes in Silksong

[opal totem]

Eh not really

They feel about the same

[wooden sun]

The slight delay from releasing the attack button to the actual attack kills me though for needle strikes

when HK had them be instant

[opal totem]

Swap off reaper

[distant holly]

most of them are bad

[wooden sun]

The others still kinda have that small delay iirc

[clever furnace]

i preferred how you could have multiple nail arts in hk instead of it being crest dependent, it feels like there's a move for every situation

[distant holly]

i think wanderer would make you unable to move lol

[opal totem]

Hunter's strike is pretty responsive

Shaman's too iirc

[clever furnace]

think of the many cases where an enemy can't be approached for whatever reason, either they are too far to keep slashing or are doing their own attack
in this window, instead of just waiting for another opportunity, keep the attack button held so that when you do get an opening it comes with a bigger reward
that is what needle strike is most useful for

[distant holly]

yeah but then you might miss making more hits . you potentially would get more hits with wanderer and flea brea or something in that time + delay

[gleaming badger]

i made her evil and red by recoloring a recolored skin mod

[wooden sun]

I wonder if they'll add direction needle strikes for each of the crests

[distant holly]

shaman has higher range so i guess it’s kinda useful

[quiet sentinel]

I'd like to see more crests added maybe a new crest with each content drop

[opal totem]

True

[distant holly]

if hornet was a child of a skarr

[clever furnace]

shaman is meh because of 2x needle damage
it does give 1 silk from an extra safe range ig

[gleaming badger]

peak kingdom swap au?

what if the pale king was like evil and capitalist (and hated saw blades)

[opal totem]

That's just pharloom

[broken plover]

The knight would probably be So bored in pharloom, the lack of excessive Sawblades, AND the lack of spikes would bore them to death

[gleaming badger]

The vessels need enrichment

[wooden sun]

The path of pain wasn't created to block out memories of the idea instilled, no, it just just an obstacle course the Pale King made for the vessels.

Becuase he's just that good of a dad

[broken plover]

I do wonder what would occur if a vessel had wandered into pharloom

[clever furnace]

wonder why tc didn't make a single actibe tool that gave silk in any way

[wooden sun]

Just imagine all the pilgrims mistaking the little guy as one of theirs, and them leading him all the way up into the citadel and up to a really really confused GMS

[opal totem]

Probably because boring

Want extra silk to cast a spell? That's just tools with an extra step
Want extra silk to heal? Reserve bind

[clever furnace]

most active tools are extra boring as is
throw it, it deals damage
use it too much and it needs to be replenished at bench
use it too frequently and you run out of shards
As it stands, the only way to use skills or bind is to needle enemies, so just finding oportunities to strike enemies is magnitudes more valuable than spending your tools
Even just a fraction of silk upon hitting something would be good as it would allow binds and skills from a safe distance, and actually excuse the limited supply

[opal totem]

Idk I have fun with tools

[quiet sentinel]

i cant stop humming the trobbio fight theme

its so whimsical

[wooden sun]

I can only presume Trobbio hasn't fallen to the curse yet because GMS's silk keeps getting fried by his constant firework displays before they can reach him.

It only makes sense

[glad stratus]

I forgot the Sentinel despite having the cog heart core

I think he's dead now

Because void and evil and gooey evil and creepy evil

[broken plover]

And I doubt the void wants anything to do with him either considering hes depressed act 3

[wooden sun]

He has the fireworks that dispel the darkness

[queen trench]

looking forward to this

[quiet sentinel]

:3

[wise monolith]

that profile thing was so good

gave me legit creepypasta vibes ngl

[clever furnace]

tbh what i find stupid is she could just run around and be the same amount of trouble

touching her and letting yourself be hit by a pin shouldn't do the same amount of damage

[clever furnace]

just a small nitpick but i wish snared silk went straight into act 3 instead of having a fakeout ending, like it doesn't even end the story in any way and just feels a bit immersion breaking to have this kind of meta thing. personal preference though

[opal totem]

I mean hk ended the story with the exact same ending

[hardy jolt]

thats not what they meant

[opal totem]

That's a part of it

[hardy jolt]

it would be the same if you like
got the kingsoul and then the game told you you got an ending

hk doesnt really have a "fakeout" ending like that

[opal totem]

Except I just defeated the final boss

[hardy jolt]

..its not the same thing

[opal totem]

It doesn't have fakeout endings but it does have an ending where the main evil is defeated and instantly replaced with another

[clever furnace]

the closest it goes to being similar is that you can do two kinds of stuff to the "final" boss

||(dreamnail/focus for THK, bind/trap for GMS)||

except in silksong, using option two opens up way more content

imagine there's a person who never entered black egg, and just went to crystal peak, found the statue in the radiance, and then never met it until godhome

[hardy jolt]

lmao

i think thats technically possible 🥹

[clever furnace]

would be pretty awkward though

[quiet sentinel]

[clever furnace]

they'd have to miss Herrah but fight Nosk, turn away after Uumuu and the WK

[hardy jolt]

[clever furnace]

WK top 1 boss in Hollow Knight btw

though i haven't fought NKG yet

can't be that different from normal Grimm

[hardy jolt]

so true mae

[clever furnace]

pv best boss

[glad stratus]

only need 2 more yeller fellers

[hardy jolt]

pv is so peak but i think i like nkg more

the ||nightmare heart arena and title card are so cool|| nkg spoilers

also the ost

[opal totem]

Normal Grimm ost is cooler

[glad stratus]

wonder where they are

[hardy jolt]

i dont remember asking but ok

[opal totem]

Sorry I forgot I need permission to express my opinion

[glad stratus]

I got one yaaay( ◕ᗜ◕ )

[distant holly]

it also makes it impossible to get steal soul and 100% steel soul at the same time

since it counts as an ending

[opaque shard]

I dont think you can get 100% before act 3 anyway

[distant holly]

exactly

you need to get snared silk ending to access act 3, which has required percents

which would mean you have to get steal soul completion achievement

[opaque shard]

Oh im just dumb alr lol

[distant holly]

considering the first goal of act ||3 has the description "discover the fate of pharloom.", i think the idea is that you would get the ending and be unsatisfied that it ended that terribly, and would want to fix this, so act 3 is kinda really "post game", an option to fix the consequences of snared silk ending ||

[clever furnace]

i don't see the game as having ended if there is still a major threat that hornet would want to fix
the other act 2 endings and all the hk endings are situations where you are unable to do anything after that point so the story ends but here hornet is still playable, the story is not over yet

imagine you get kidnapped to the slab and credits roll
"wow what a terrible ending, i need to load back in and fix that"

[opaque shard]

Ok imagine
You can leave through blasted steps after leaving you get a 10 min cutscene and hornet gets captured again restarting the game

[hardy jolt]

thats actually a fire idea 😭

[glad stratus]

does anyone know what/where this tool is?

[opaque shard]

i think its silk speed anklets?

[glad stratus]

its not

[opaque shard]

Oh-

[clever furnace]

barbed bracelet i think

[opaque shard]

Yeah it comes after belt according to wiki

[clever furnace]

in bottom right sinners road

[opaque shard]

Got snailed

[quiet sentinel]

LMAO error

[hardy jolt]

hi mae :3

[quiet sentinel]

hiii :3

[hardy jolt]

[clever furnace]

hi mae

[quiet sentinel]

hi snowy!

did you win steel soul

[clever furnace]

not yet i haven't played today and probably won't tomorrow

just been working on school a bit

[quiet sentinel]

gll

[opaque shard]

Dont go to school and play skong instead

[hardy jolt]

drop out of school and become a silksong youtuber

[opaque shard]

Be a gaymer

[hardy jolt]

[clever furnace]

its been a whole month the easy clickbait potential has faded i feel

earlier i saw that some moron dug the witch crest curse removal cutscene from the game files on sept 4th and uploaded it on youtube as "hornet death scene"

[opaque shard]

silksong bad ending

gms fucking stabs you to death

[digital robin]

Rip Gay teater kid, Doomed Yaoi and Toxic Lesbians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAN3oyIYn68

I knew this will eventually be discovered

[opaque shard]

Ermmm lace is cannonicly a baby

[mellow sigil]

shes not a baby but I do find lacenet a lil
weird
I think the point is that she&Hornet are mo so. Familiar? they probably supposed to have sort of an older protector&younger in need of protection dynamic

its not morally wrong to ship them ofc ......

[distant holly]

technically only supposed to act as one

[opaque shard]

I mean shes called a child in mind and body

[digital robin]

Not even a baby, a child

[mellow sigil]

Lace also has so many parallels with Hornet's actual siblings
like even HK's leitmotif in her bossfight theme haha

[opaque shard]

Yeah I think they would have a sisters dynamic

[distant holly]

just friends

[digital robin]

The funny thing is that Lace already had a sister

[opaque shard]

And hornet killed them

[digital robin]

but Hornet kill her in act 1 / to get a spell

[distant holly]

phantom’s pronouns are they/them /j

[mellow sigil]

and in certain circumstances Hornet can literally replace place of Laces mother😭
not literally but I hope yk what I mean

[opaque shard]

Lace: HER PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM

[digital robin]

Me when she doesn't use she/her

[mellow sigil]

I like to think of Hornet as a more so guardian figure to Lace

[opaque shard]

They in journel lace calls phantom sister

[mellow sigil]

instead of her sibling

maybe they use she/they ??????

[distant holly]

technically lace is an aunt of hornet because weavers are children of gms

[mellow sigil]

I did hear a theory though that Phantom is straight up trans

[opaque shard]

nah lace is they/them-phobic obvsly

[distant holly]

lace is just transphobic, just like hornet is homophobic

[mellow sigil]

oh my god

[opaque shard]

All weavers are canonicaly homophobic for killing the clover lesbians

[distant holly]

it was required to have a heart on the shelf

[opaque shard]

"It was important to save the world"
GIRL IT WASNT YOU ONLY NEEDED 3

[mellow sigil]

I still struggle to figure how do you even explain what Hornet did to that poor guy
WHY DID SHE DO THAT

[digital robin]

Hornet is just a Karmelita simp and wanted to keep her alive

[opaque shard]

Ture

We all are

[mellow sigil]

I mean Ik that he is now supposedly with his
dead partner hooray!!!! but you dont need to die to move on from your partners death???

Hornet truly is homophobic

[digital robin]

The funny thing is Prince and Karmelita are probably arround the same age and one is completly destroyed while the other is only a bit depressed

[opaque shard]

I mean queen ant live much longer compared to other bugs

[digital robin]

Yea, and she is destroyed physically even when the tribe is still pretty much functional and devoted to her

while Prince seems to still be on their prime even after being jailed in a tiny cage for a while

[opaque shard]

15 years old and looking like that 💔

[distant holly]

i guess phantom wanted to fight actually?

[digital robin]

The journal say it pretty clear

[opaque shard]

Yeah im pretty sure they wanted to go out in style

[digital robin]

"This one wanted a warriors death instead of slowly fading away (the silk is starting to wear off and being unravelled)"

[mellow sigil]

I mean I doubt they're haunted so ofc they wanted to fight

they attacked Hornet....

[distant holly]

why gms even discarded phantom but tried to save lace after lace’s betrayal

[opaque shard]

Lace is the golden child

[mellow sigil]

favourite kid

Shes even Hornet's favourite kid!!!!!!! wtf

thats so not fair

[digital robin]

Phantom is the old son that works on the family buissnes (Making Bilewater the worst place possible)

While Lace is the favorite kid that is just send to patrol and look for troublemakers

(and have fun)

[distant holly]

why weavers didn’t do anything to lace

[opaque shard]

"I love all my daughters equally"
-Grand Mother Silk

[distant holly]

lace probably already existed

[digital robin]

After sending one to be a sewage cleaning crew

[opaque shard]

I think she was spun after weavers betrayel?

[mellow sigil]

pronouns that Hornet uses for people in her journal are in general a lil confusing

or maybe its just me

[digital robin]

In general she thinks everyone is female XD

unless stated otherwise

[opaque shard]

Shes into fat bitches

[mellow sigil]

makes sense I suppose

everyone in her tribe is female .......

[opaque shard]

"Huge and soft a fantastic combination"
-Hornet the fat bitch lover

[mellow sigil]

also I realised that before I said that Hornet like
almost directly said that she dated someone from her tribe but I realised that its not true

thats probably why noone gives a damn

[opaque shard]

I mean all weavers are sisters soooo

[mellow sigil]

BUT she still says that she had a partner ONCE!!!!!! and said that her mateS didnt outlive her!!!!!!!! so she probably means some other kind of mates
for example. TRIBEmates......

[mellow sigil]

Huh you're probably right .....

WTF DID SHE MEAN BY THAT EBTRY THAN WHAT DID SHE MEAAANNNNN

WHO WAS HORNETS PARTNER

[fossil sorrel]

well theyll still be in the speedrun routes

thats only really availavle in the catagory that gets the duplicated rooms through main menu storage

[digital robin]

Finally someone mention anything about the video and not my small joke XD

This doesn't use MMS

[fossil sorrel]

ya

[digital robin]

it's a lesser glitch

[fossil sorrel]

wait is it considered a non major glitch

bc it doesnt mms

[digital robin]

and a few people say MMS is too annoying to run so they can use it for a major glitches sub-category. And also challenge runs like Low% or LowBoss%

[fossil sorrel]

oh true

i was working on like

[digital robin]

The main glitch is room duplication

[fossil sorrel]

first sinner in act 1 using mms but i couldnt get it to work

[digital robin]

with a minor glitch in the form of getting control while on menus

that only require pogo-storage which will most likely be a minor glitch

[fossil sorrel]

then i spent a while trying to get it using beast crest into memorium,enemy pogo into putrid ducts, and then get the apostate key (?)

but i gave up before i could get to that point of progression on a new save file and then i saw a video of it on my YouTube reccomended

[fossil sorrel]

pogo storage looks sooo funny

[digital robin]

It can make a mini animation glitch that is funny

Hornet just Aurafarming there

[fossil sorrel]

meeeoow

i wanna play silksong.

[distant holly]

but not last judge for some reason

[digital robin]

In some languages I think it was female

and devs aparently confirmed it

[mellow sigil]

how did they approached the problem I wonder of some characters using "they" but that pronoun not being very translatable to some other languages

[distant holly]

they didn’t

smh

[mellow sigil]

in vessels case I suppose you could refer to the vessel by the pronoun of the word "vessel" (in my native language specifically)

but in other cases like. You cant just assign them a gender can you...

ohhh they probably dont curate translators work all that much right

its not like they can

[distant holly]

lowkey annoys me that apparently watcher devs made it not gender neutral (in one language) for a character in an update, despite it being worded like that in the original release (well, i was told )💔

it’s no rw spoilers zone, however

[mellow sigil]

was it in russian .....

[distant holly]

maybe?

[mellow sigil]

ah

it annoys me too in general but
I suppose its a problem I have with my native language specifically because the singular they pronoun is absolutely usable in it (and people already use it in another form)it's just very unconventional

and too queer I guess

[distant holly]

you can also just word it differently smh

[mellow sigil]

oh yeah

[distant holly]

it’s entirely possible to completely avoid using pronouns or gendered forms of words

[mellow sigil]

its a lil more complicated in my language because we have gendered endings of words

like for example
if I say something about you
"you went" the word "went" will have a gendered ending

[distant holly]

passive voice though

[mellow sigil]

its a lil hard to explain. Maybe you have something similar in your language though Im not sure

how do you use passive voice in this specific example:0
the road was walked by you???

hahah

[distant holly]

kinda? depends on a way the language words it

[mellow sigil]

that's actually translatable to my language... but sounds a lil silly

and changes the meaning and implications a lil bit

[distant holly]

could be reworded completely but with the generally same meaning .

it would be more effortful

[mellow sigil]

was the character you're talking about from 1.5 btw???

[distant holly]

actually no

were there translation updates for 1.5 already?

[mellow sigil]

oh I dunno didn't thought about it

I never play in my native language but now Im curious how did they handle it.....

and in Silksong as well

[distant holly]

native language option looking at you like the green mask

[mellow sigil]

I wish more queer allies or queer people in general translated things from english to my native language
the ignorance of pronouns and neutral language in general is the thing that prevents me from interacting with it the most

[opal totem]

Switch to native localization and don't regret it challenge (impossible)

[distant holly]

deltarune doesn’t have translation except japanese for that reason

[opal totem]

Toby is a weeb reason

[mellow sigil]

doesn't Toby knows Japanese though:0 its probably only translated to it because he can curate the translation process

[distant holly]

yes

that’s what i mean

[mellow sigil]

ah alright

we need to force him to learn every other language as well

[distant holly]

toby knows english and japanese and so there won’t be errors in translation

[mellow sigil]

VIOLENTLY

[opal totem]

We need to force him to learn english

[distant holly]

english (british)

[mellow sigil]

yeah I dunno why did he decided to make his games in the marsian language,not many people know it

[opaque shard]

Chat did I cook with this oc be fr

[glad stratus]

Uhmmmm yea??????⦮._.⦯

[hardy jolt]

peak

[glad stratus]

I was fighting disgraced chef Luigi or whoever the fuck and Bro got lost the first 4 seconds of existing wtf is this Bullshittery

[opaque shard]

Shes based on a bolas spider which normally take the shape of bird shit during the day to camouflage but theres no birds in hk so snail shell it is

[hardy jolt]

craws?

[opaque shard]

Craw-bug

[hardy jolt]

true

[quiet sentinel]

That's insane LOL

Ofc it has to do with room duplication I was always wondering when people would find a way to do that

[distant holly]

evil team cherry called obvious fish bugs

[quiet sentinel]

People ALWAYS find a way

[distant holly]

they could admit that it’s jellyfish in hollow knight but here it’s too much i guess

💔

[quiet sentinel]

I wonder if it'd be allowed in speedruns

[distant holly]

(no)

[quiet sentinel]

I'd imagine no unless there's a specific glitched category

[quiet sentinel]

jeeeez

[distant holly]

it’s useless for it

[quiet sentinel]

do you even sleep :3

[hardy jolt]

both hk games have a no major glitches and major glitches category i thinks

[quiet sentinel]

yah makes sense

[hardy jolt]

huhh
i havent been up for that long

[distant holly]

there are faster room duplication ways

[quiet sentinel]

i ran a ton of glitched animal well :3

[quiet sentinel]

squimshs you

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

for me it looks like youve been up since i have

cause i always open discord to you around

:3

[distant holly]

when moss mother skip

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

rubs my paws allll over you

[distant holly]

for pacifist no kills run

[quiet sentinel]

okay break time gonna eat

[hardy jolt]

mmmraow ><

bai :3

[opaque shard]

When gms skip

[distant holly]

you don’t kill gms so you can fight

[opaque shard]

[distant holly]

i think the only required kills are moss mother, phantom/last judge, and cogwork dancers. idk what would they do with arenas though

widow might count too i guess

[digital robin]

What?

Missinformation moment

What are you talking about XD

[quiet sentinel]

x3

[distant holly]

trobbio and lace don’t die

[digital robin]

Dancers also don't die

[distant holly]

fourth chorus, sister splinter, and moowing can be skipped

they do

[digital robin]

but you can't do Judge/Phantom before Widow

[opaque shard]

dancers are robots so they dont count

[distant holly]

wisp thicket route

[distant holly]

they have the soul

[digital robin]

what you do is hookless Fay to skip both, and do some wacky pre-glitches to get into the end of the Phantom area (you need the screen transition)

and then do the bug

M.M., maybe B.B. and GMS are the only required ones

[opal totem]

Silksong credits warp when

[distant holly]

who the hell is b. b.

[digital robin]

Bell Beast

[distant holly]

bavage beastfly

[digital robin]

to activate teleports (QoL) and use it as a enemy to trigger the glitch

[distant holly]

silksong genocide route (kill every single enemy at least once)

[digital robin]

HunterMemento%

[opaque shard]

Silksong grass% when

[distant holly]

like every single spawn

not just hunter journal

[opal totem]

This during no bench run

[distant holly]

bell beast shouldn’t be freed though, since you can’t kill bell beast so make the thread do it eventually

[opaque shard]

You also have to do all the bad things

Getting the lil pilgrim in bone bottom killed for example

[opal totem]

I still have no idea how to get the name out of him

Or make him move

[opaque shard]

To make him move yoy have to travel to act 2

[opal totem]

That just deletes him from the game I think

Isn't he supposed to move to pilgrim's rest for a while in act 1

[opaque shard]

I heard he can be found again in pilgrims rest

[opaque shard]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Pilby

He apparently disappears if you didnt spoken to him before

[opal totem]

Pilby name learn how

[opaque shard]

Talk to him a shit ton

[opal totem]

"After speaking to him several times" I go talk to him after every notable event in every playthrough and I've never heard his name

[opaque shard]

[woven basin]

There isn't a single good ship in hollowknight and silksong

[mellow sigil]

but what about nailsmith guy and sheo

[opaque shard]

sheo and nailsmith

[mellow sigil]

also green princes

[opaque shard]

Doomed yuri 💔

[mellow sigil]

well they died and we know little about them but rhey seem sweet

[opaque shard]

Also ogrim and isma

[mellow sigil]

OHH YEAH ITS EXTREMELY CUTE

they remind me a lot about a ship from rw too.....

Cant name though because spoiler

[opaque shard]

Pinmaster in bellhart also had a dead lover

Or has

[mellow sigil]

also grey mourner and traitors child

its doomed yuri as well.....

why do gay people always suffer in hk

[opaque shard]

[woven basin]

Well for ships I mostly see it for fanon like I guess it can be used for cannon but I meant more fanon

[glad stratus]

Chat how does oke repair the farsight thing

[hardy jolt]

do you have a bellhome?

[glad stratus]

Ye

Is red

[hardy jolt]

you can set it up inside there :3