#Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)
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dont think so honestly
it takes a little bit of time for you to actually. get into the pogo after u input it
LMAO
dude pinstress is gonna make me lose speed completion
Its a few frames at most
no one has to say anything about pinstress? no tips at all?
Hornet is an Animatronic? 
Spam clawline
I used Witch
The ground dash is easy to punish if you know how
Run attack after the X slash is a nice way to squeeze in damage
you can probably parry the projectiles to win i-frames
Also the projectiles are parriable
ok phew I thought I was shadow muted or smth
You can also use a stall Shaman build
to spam spells
3 hearts + weavelight means you can stay at range and spam nails, parry or threadstorm
depending of how aggro you want to be
yea I'm spamming clawline, it's giving me spacing issues though
and no I'm not cheesing, no tools, hunter barbed
Use shaman spells
i used cross stitch to punish the charge attack she does
other than that i just dodged
ok I forgot she can dash offscreen
i honestly didnt use clawline much
yeah
i had her throw me off the mountain once which ended the fight for me. after i was already back up
I'm already abusing running away from the fight, fuck honor I am not losing steel soul
barbed on steel soul ๐ค
yes
genuinely good with hunter
wdym its de definition of fun
dunno what u talking about
what's the risk if you just delete enemies
chat how's this loadout for surface ascent
Why multibinder
pretty nice, i found the grip to walls useful on it too
It aint that hard tbh
didn't need a single of these tools for the ascent lol
Whats the ascent? -Seth
the surface ascent, that one platforming challenge above the cradle
Show on map? -Seth
Its above the cradle at act 3
With silk soar
What is up there? -Seth
you really wanna know? I think you should find out tbh
Okay theb
All i found when i went up the cradle was the new silk skill
Did we miss something entirely? -Seth
Oh fun
Its like a whole new parkour section
How is its difficulty compared to white palace? -Seth
I wouldnt say its that hard tbh
No silly, hornet is void
No, hornet is bilewater -Seth
fuck lost steel soul to last judge, time to go hitless her on a different save
didnt Path of Pain get added in lifeblood update ๐ค
hopefully we get another fun platforming segment down the line
Breaking news! New Groal cheese strat unlocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8J3-wk4GOo
This glitch is soooo much more than this one application, but hey this is the application I found first. And who could be upset about actually being able to use Hornet's Silk God mode in game? Expect to see major skips and testing to try and find the utilization of a literal out of bounds glitch that can seemingly be brought to every area of Pha...

what even is this

the content of video
this is a method
definetly
all that just to cheese groal ๐ฅน
And make Witch usable 
Jokes aside a mod to unshackle the max silk could be funny to play arround
chat is it normal i struggle so much in the chapel of the wanderer arena
wonder why resting gets rid of phasmium
Cuz sleeping cures all the diseases
man I'm so glad they changed hornet's voicelines when using silk skills
that roar she does adds so much power to them 
can i also talk abt regular hollowknight here or only silksong?
cool, hornet is greenpath is beating me up so bad
Well, she's going to need to stay alive to be in the sequel. 
i just wanna be able to dash
is being short in Hallownest an attractive feature, considering they had a Shortโข Kingยฎ?
and considering even the shortest bugs were taller than PK (at least when comparing eye level)
this is very important to HK lore
That is how he rizzed up herrah and white lady
also, why don't the vessels bear any resemblance towards white lady at all

What if PK cheated ๐คฏ !!!! -Seth
"Ira!" - Hornet 2025
No way!!!! Pk would never
He totally would -Seth
No, he is in love with greyroot -Seth
Thats how zote was born
anyone know how to get into here?
You have to get there from another place and unlock it
guess ill try and figure out where i get in then, thanks
wouldn't White Lady notice that the kids ain't hers
cuz, ya know
can you get to city of tears before beating hornet?
Wait, this is fire -Seth
Blindfolds -Seth
I'm pretty sure she'd still know that the babies she didn't give birth to aren't hers
Naaahhhhh -Seth
The blindfolds work well enough, the pale king just lied to her and stuff
hornet is cooking me
Hornet 1 can't be that hard
this is my first time playing hollow knight im doing my best
ohisee
i recommend you keep your distance and don't neglect using your vengeful spirit
only heal while she's stunned
would stalwart shell or soul catcher be better?
starwart if you like to facetank
soul catcher for minor extra spells and heals
thanks for that, i bullied hornet into a corner and beat them
no beasts crest... smh
ok so uh now where do i go after beating hornet
i meant like is there any specific path you have to take or can i just explore taking multiple paths
you xan take multiple paths
cool
do you really have to ask for guidance here?
i feel like this is risking like
a lot of spoilers
but maybe you dont mind
i dont mind, and ive also watched a 100% completion of hollowknight, so i know the major plot, but just dont remember what to do
just walk around
chances are, the genius game design of Hollow Knight will guide you in the right direction
especially considering you've seen people play it already
this guys cool, im naming him gerald.
I think I broke them
isn't that a Fungoon
I sure would love to have the craws as allies, awesome creatures
top 3 enemy name in any game ever
it's like TC knew
idk but im calling them gerald
that fungoon in particular?
yes, only that one
this bouncing on these mushroom things are buggy
or confusing
now one shotting these guys is satisfying af
does anyone have suggestions for these slots (reaper should have flea brew already)
is this bounce even possible only with the moth wing cloak?
barbed barbed and barbed 
try hitting them from above
OH TYSM
if i want to use barbed it probably replaces dice tbh
suboptimal but if im using barbed im going for a no hit atp
yep, go big or go home with barbed
i really dont know what else is even good to run though especially with witch
you probably just put cogflies on it
What isn't good to run
Any throwable to help dealing with flying enemies is good enough
mm hm
tools don't synergize much with the rest of hornet's kit
just throw something in and it'll probably do
fuck, I need the complete journal notes for the memento
i wish more of the plain throwable tools felt good
not even strong throwables feel good
you throw a pimpillo, it goes boom, and done
curveclaw/sickle is the only one that i like of the more standard ones
the mantis are jumping me
voltvessels are really good though i accidently skipped phase 3 cogwork dancers with them because i was messing around
pretty much any strong tool does that when spammed
did that feel rewarding though
woah
What does the venom flea brew do
poison trail
struggling so hard rn with this mantis area
An I allowed to spoil the first game or is it just silksong spoilers only
both
Chat do I play skong again or actually play the first game and leave city of tears for once in my damn life ๐ญ
i recommend playing hk first :3
play skong again theres nothing to do after city of tears
THESE EXPLODING MUSHROOMS WJFUEUFJUWF
freedom from the mantis
chat did you know that holding run after downdashing makes hornet keep a superhero descent 

very late spoilers dont click lixian and moff
im playing hollowknight not silksong but i wont click it
How long did it take you to find out
Who the fuck gave widow steroids Jesus Christ
i would assume youre planning to play silksong too tho 
absolute engineer gameplay
Jesus Christ those fucking hippity hoppers jumping a damn football field to kick my ass ๐
what? too obvious for you?
I can NOT beat her(?) Holy shit
i am broke my friend gifted me this
๐
i am infact in debt to my parents rn
five hundred cogflys
No but I think it shouldn't take 100+ hours to find it out
What the fuck is wrong with my autocorrect
this build spends 400.000 shell shards, in 12 seconds
can confirm
weavers are all female indeed
ok then, so having 100 hours forbids me from sharing silly stuff?
I didn't mean any negativity
it should take 100+ hours thats because you shouldnt down dash ever
chat will i have to go back to mantis village after getting mantis claw?
yes

no wonder you struggled so much, you haven't played the first game?!?!?!
I have, but then silksong came out and I went "OH SHIT"
i tried to look at my crest menu in pantheon (bound it to Ctrl) just to charge up a crystal dash
๐ญ
I tried double jumping multiple times in a row (I don't have monarch wings)
after playing silksong for a lot of time i found knight very sluggish somehow
yeah i also found myself spamming the harpoon button
wdym i can't clawline into vengefly king?!
Just lost 334 geo on the other side of fucking Narnia or some shit ๐ญ
clawline mod for hollow knight
what is the slow as balls knight going to do once FS teleports to the other side of the map and starts to heal
shade skip
luckily, 334 geo is 3 minutes in east CoT
Colosseum of tools
CotB
Use vengeful spirit or smth
and what do you do after you're out of mana
soul*
out of soul
spells dont exist silksong retconned them out of existence
i meant soul
i'm EATING all the snail shamans
and did groal retcon them back halfway in?
Have grubsong equipped
the knight doesn't move quick enough to hit FS after all
he uses his tongue now
just looked at other channel and image perms only seem to be a problem here
nail arts dont exist
i โค๏ธ needle strikes
do i have to be monk to post images in threads?
on offtopic general and spoiler general
idk about misc chat
ohoke
my game crashed ๐ hopefully i saved recently enough
also is it possible to filter the banned words on the thread
karmelita quick kill 30 seconds
instead of the channel
I'm pretty sure hollow knight also has a void body of water
Fuckin died to a primal aspid before I could fight evil knight and get my money back
20 voltvessels coming right in
500 tacks
even if it's more of a lake than a sea
void lake doesn't sound as serious
they jailed a guy after being dissonant
thats funny
Guilty of an unnamed sin.
Penance by casting.
Absolution not granted.
rate my build
i like shaman crest
daily beast crest pogo training (flea bounce)
i thought i had to boss fight at the top of mount fay
i mean it would be cool
Malevolent Shrine ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIYp_8z5rzE||
In this video I am showing the infinite Thread Storm exploit.
I'll try to explain how it works and how to reproduce it.
you'll do something like that
kinda
someday
LWT ME OUT KFBKINGDOMS EDGE PLEASE
maybe
why are you saying this as if i havent even gotten to act 3
๐
idunno
i hath beaten the pinstress
haven't really been watching you play the game
imagine

silksong would finally be good
voided+mucked
Embrace the blight
and why not, it's also on fire
just do hitless smh
even though it has Mount Fay weather condition
that would be glorious
i really enjoy this specific lore tablet
rain world spoilers i guess ||what if hollow knight is rain world||
It was originally going to be a DLC
But then Team Cherry decided "nah, we're going to be based"
but then team cherry saw that hollow knight was too small for hornets moveset and
oh my god
bennies are WEAVERS
and ancients are ancients
I am fighting the temptation to do it
See? The
helped!
now u can monk silly me
true architect build
just chillin
quirrel my beloved
The silly guy
i do not have enough for that
500 nail upgrades
where do i buy the map for city of tears?
Nail Smith abuse
What the skong

Sell any relics you get to lemm
I think thats his name
If your struggling to find him he has special signs that point to his shop
if there were 3 nailmaster brothers in hk and 3 pinstress sisters in silksong what will there be in the third game
The three siblings of Zote
His Father, his Mother, and his Brother
The three Zotemasters
I gave up on hk because those fucking things wouldn't stop throwing themselves and me and blowing up ๐ญ
We talking about this guy?
the only good enemy in hollow knight
We talking about.. THAT GUY
Sad there's not a variant of them in skong
That would suck ass but I would love it
the kamikaze bats
silksong bellflys that do 3 damage 
chat I did a thing
sadly I broke steel soul's honor and reset on quite a few of the act 3 fights
but I got 100% all mementos at least
and speed completion
even with the fails, I'd still not trade barbed for anything tbh, the damage is just too fun to leave
TRUE canon... (rw watcher dlc spoiler)
actually, a bit later, after bell eater
greymoor... thatโs like some king of city of tears
there is no reason to use dice here
dice work only on enemies, they donโt activate on environmental hazards
better to get the tool that makes you stick to the walls
maybe horns are like roots idk 
hornet has horns from herrah after all
what level of tools is it 
uh probably 3 or 4
i got the grindle crafting kit in act 1 but i forget if i got the architect one before or after this
Just realized boss rush dlc will likely be the last so tc don't have to update it every time they add a new boss
Wonder what ambitious plans they could have for dlcs before that
imagine if they add hk bosses to silksongs gods and glory counterpart dlc
Markoth if he was good
I find Pharlids and little weavers adorable
Itโs almost time for the bilewater part of my silksong playthrough 
Peak time
The moment cannot arrive soon enough
I still need to finish great taste of pharloom for the needle upgrade, but after that itโs headed to the underworks to get vaultkeeperโs melody
and then BILEWATER HOURS THROUGH WHISPERING VAULTS
Twistedbudding time too
Yup thatโs my reason for taking that entrance
Otherwise I would just bell beast into bilewater
I want to play more silksong but steel soul keeps kicking my ass
I needed my early bilewater hours so I got the bell beast station before clawline
Yeah I'm usually unlocking bellway in act 1
Bilewater is an addiction, do not try to help us we love it here
True
Groaltastic idea
Ok but genuinely groal deserves more recognition outside of just being โthe runback bossโ
Tbh he has only like 3 attacks, he's not the most exciting boss
But I like him anyway
He actually uses vengeful spirit, and is one of the first major clues to the fact that concepts from hollow knight will return
Same way I like Lugoli
Iโm not the biggest lugoli fan tbh
Understandable
I just like the vibes
There are some bosses that have mid gameplay but cool vibes
Crawfather is the best example
Groal phase 2 is great lore though
I love how we get to see a bug actually harness soul in a familiar way
Not just teleporting around like A CERTAIN BOSS I COULD NAME
Ok on the topic of soul master/tyrant, the phase 1 theme is severely underrated
It feels like it could reasonably fit in silksong
Funnily enough Trobbio is my least memorable boss theme in silksong despite how memorable the character is
It has the city of tears motif in choir form
If I didn't look it up and listen to it outside of the game I'd have no idea where it plays
Ok but what about tormented trobbio
That was more memorable
That theme is so fucking hilarious (/pos)
I love how itโs one of the most dramatic tracks in the game and itโs just trobbio painting himself purple
i think i'm going to start steel soul attempts
Anyways since I hate him Iโm exiling trobbio to putrified ducts with no access to pale lake or heaven (bilewater)
Mucked Trobbio real
wtf
kills you
blows up bilewater with mind
Congrats you just executed trobbio
I rigged a trap in bilewater that kills trobbio

Anyways bilerwater time
how would trobbio react to being placed in bilewater
itโs bileRwater

Trobbio would probably overreact and put on a green/brown outfit
Also he goes to putrified ducts because I refuse to let him enter my haven
I love how trobbio becomes ourple
I fucking HATE widows "oOoOo im gonna run across the floor and make the floor become spiked" attack
I have the skill issue
Thats why
I killed moorwing, but if I did the flea caravan skip, would they till appear again eventually
Yeah
You can fight him in the room next to bellway after some time, not sure what the exact triggers are
Ok I think this is a hot take
But I think ||lost laceโs|| (heavy endgame spoilers) theme feels a bit too generic, I would have preferred if it focused more on what was actually occurring rather than just feeling uplifting constantly, it doesnโt feel fitting at all.
Honestly, kinda agree
I wouldโve loved if it included some piano similar to hollow knight, to really symbolize how much of an effect the void is having, and to foreshadow the ending
It doesn't really give me ||I'm all the way below the bottom of the world, surrounded by the darkness that wants to consume me, trying to save this kingdom from collapsing by saving this person from the darkness|| vibes.
I think the music is one of the main reasons LL is my number two fight
What's your number one?
Skarrsinger karmelita
ah
Which is probably like the single best boss theme in all of hollow knight and silksong
How can she sing and shout at the same time
I just find that boss fight funny in that the boss is singing their lungs out while they pummel you to death.
Immersion broken, unplayable
Sheโs the GOAT
solved
At least it's still more playable than Lace having different pin
Ok but genuinely every time I see a boss ranking put Karmelita at number 2 Iโm a bit disappointed
Lost lace is an incredible final boss donโt get me wrong, but Karmelita has an absolutely perfect flow that makes the fight so much fun
Genuinely across all of gaming, Karmelita is my second favorite boss fight
Between the PRIME SOULS FROM ULTRAKILL
Tbh Minos starts feeling too basic after all the stuff we've gotten after that
What difficulty
Brutal
Thatโs pretty much the only difficulty I play atp
Same but that's one thing I still can't figure out
Brutal Sisyphus is definitely โHOLY FUCKโ tier but itโs the fun kind of โholy fuckโ
Iโm now officially in bilewater ๐ฅน
Can you enter bilewater unofficially
Exhaust organ
True
Anyways in terms of brutal sisyphus it actually wasnโt that bad my first time around
Then my second time I got annihilated
I learned what's the brutal change for Sisyphus long after p ranking it and I still can't beat him consistently
The rest of the level is fun though
I think the sheer difficulty of brutal Sisyphus is an important part of the fight
Regardless, it still feels fair (IMO)
Not saying it should be easier
Bilewater bellway reached
This glitch is soooo much more than this one application, but hey this is the application I found first. And who could be upset about actually being able to use Hornet's Silk God mode in game? Expect to see major skips and testing to try and find the utilization of a literal out of bounds glitch that can seemingly be brought to every area of Pha...
this is what hornet gets up to after binding gms 
i watched that vid too it was very silly :3

Putrified is the old one
New one is about pogoing on your vessel balls using snaresetter
The misfortune of having to leave bilewater to go fight lugoli in order to finish great tasteโฆ
Apparently works with drill too
Choral chambers is not honest with itโs appearance
Bilewater is honest
This is one reason why bilewater is superior
Bilewater ost in question
Ok but look at bilewater
so glad moorwing's saws no longer deal double damage
truth nuke
The true final boss of silksong is
but EVIL
theres some other niche applications of it
early snare setter and skipping part of mount fay (which is only notable if youre doing it without clawline to make it easier)
those are just the ones that only require one jump so theres probably some chain stuff you can do but i havent put time to do that
oh and for rando it would let you get upper memoriam checks early and probably putrified ducts
I just thought of really random but I think would be cool cosmetic feature
Instead of just being learned and then used to reach the cradle, each of the melodies could be used individually instead of the default needolin, same effects but with a different melody
to add onto that concept, the standard needolin could become weaverโs melody
Missed opportunity for the rhythm minigame
Fleas in silksong: 
Fleas irl: 
getting plasmium and fractured mask before widow was a bit overkill
Chat pls tell me coliseum of fools isn't required to progress ๐๐
Depends, what are you trying to do?
What :(
Progress through the game
Not tryna 100%
Not really, no
There's like one thing you'll need it for post game if you're interested but I get the impression you aren't worried about that right now 
Idk why the other person said you needed to do all of it
i guess that would explain why each shade has unique horns
taking after roots
False
Its 1 room lol
One big room
I always thought it was like they take the form of the mask/shell they're given or whatever the fuck idk I forgot hollow Knight lore
wruff :$
hi
hi snowy!
hello i made it past cogwork dancers on my steel soul run
so far i've just been following the speedrun path with some detours for safety stuff but i think i'll try to get more upgrades before stuff like high halls arena
hh arena was my furthest steel soul death so im praying for you
is garmond viable i heard he can help too
He can help too but you have to fight him first
at least his fight isn't lethal so its still an option
Would be cool if second sentinel was also an option
truth
Died at widow yesterday for steel soul
-Seth
That was alot further than i thought i would get
So i say it was a good thing
Spell of bilewater

Accept the bilewater
Bilewater wouldnโt be nearly as enjoyable for me tbh
bark
Ok I just reached first sinner again
Something I noticed: as soon as you start the fight, if you look at the floor and background they look like the start of memories
hornet fight when
crawfather is pretty cool
Nosk 3
how do you even get it
nosk will probably have the appearance of the knight for hornet
Garmond nosk may or may not go hard
Shakra nosk
Also works
Omg that just made me lvl 30
at that point itโs almost guaranteed to be the only possible lol
survivors letssgoo
imagine dying at gms ๐
Skill issue
Nah easist boss is lost lace
not sure but itโs not too much additional effort, any help should be fine
. though, shakra is probably better for the fight, i didnโt check, however
She is better
Theres a reason one of em dies in act 3
despite double damage itโs actually pretty skill based fight
. unlike savage beastfly 2
C-c-c-CENSOR THAT BOSS!!!!
tbh i kinda underestimated hunterโs focus
i tried to practice trobbio fight for speedrun achievement later, and it was difficult
. and i did it first try after getting the hunter crest upgraded 
apparently, getting 6+ attacks without getting hit is way more common than i thought
You also get two hits worth of combo for a single clawline use
cross stitch is also pretty great for the tornado 
i didnโt have clawline ๐
Also you can combo trobbio with silk storm
itโs faster to get clawline after trobbio
It keeps pushing him back during his tornado attack
i skipped silk storm 
Its my go to silk skill lol
can you skip somehow craw lake arena to get it
Maybe with silksoar lol
it might be useful for high halls arena though
It is
idk how iโm gonna beat it ๐
I have figured out how to make the bell beast โpurrโ and I feel like it might become a vocal stim
all bosses so far werenโt too bad with just 5 masks
Gms 3 mask damage attack might be bad tho
then i can just get multibinder, injector band, and dice
itโs pretty easy to dodge
Its is unless you choke lol
its scary, but nothing that serious gms is very easy
Happy bday -Seth
yoooooo happi birday 
Is there any reason to replay the slab sequence? I've just been killing the wandenflies with cages
ig you can get the keys of indolent and heretic, but like, almost everything of importance in the slab is behind apostate locks
and when you do get apostate you can enter the slab with it, I see no point then
Looking at a map, the only important thing is a single flea
you can get it later
hello bugs of Hallownest
Hello
hi dizzy
Can you exit the slab without hornet's stuff?
I am thinking you could open the memory locket tunnel with the key of apostate before getting captured
and cage wardenflies stop spawning once you get to the top room of the slab according to the wiki
you share a birthday with somebody... u... toby foc
oh dam, i had no idea


rip
but ig if you put it another way she's finally free from eternally constructing machines for the citadel long gone
beast crest momentum storage
it sounds harder than it is but memorium itself only has one hard spot and thats a damage boost
Wait the bells you ring in act one are required?
I kinda just
Hit every lever I saw
if youre doing grand gate route yeah
So I ended up ringing them
Silksong bosses based on how much I enjoyed em
wouldn't have expected khann to be that high
i honestly liked him
Not counting the gaunlet ofcs
Urhh I meant to put pinstress on bottom of annoying ๐ญ
I actually enjoyed the second beastfly fight a good bit

me too
Oh i didn't know this was a thing
First sinner is my fav boss hell yeah ๐งก
They only show up if you dont do the huntresses quest before act 3
Yuh
My friend got that
He didn't do the quest in act 2 by mistake
I also heard that Phantom apparently changes if you fight her in act 2???
Friend also encounter mort in act 3
Didn't know about that
i tried reading the wiki about it but no one has documented it?
Yeah if you hadnt brought the belt tool from him before that how you get it
Oooooh
Hell yuh
I love these fuckers
Wonder if the Pharloom quartet are also part of the hallownest family
oh cool, seamstress has stuff to say when wearing the pin badge
his items are taken by snitchflies and can be bought from grindle instead
i likedeted the pinstress
I thought it's required
prolly, they're all each others uncles and cousins. Could be just a running joke though
wonder how hard would hornet as a boss be after getting all those upgrades in pharloom 
or how she'd play out with all those crests
i really liked pinstress although i died a lot
Well I wouldn't want to fight her if she has cogflies
Pollip pouch+ cogfly spam
fighting against gms crest hornet
Oughh, lost another steel soul attempt. I even hitlessed widow, it was going so well. Also met Zi for the first time, no clue what their deal is
architect crest hornet boss ๐ฅน
I beat the true ending๐ฅน
uhhh chat?
Excuse me what
oh, it's just resting 
Oh ok
conversation basically went
"so you still doing your job?"
"yea"
leaves
Guys I didn't find the high halls fight hard I did it in one try
wait what
I killed a Maestro just as they summoned the cogflies and they bugged 
oh cool, I got ambushed by 2 black-threaded Ministers, came out unscratched because this build is just too good
oh, hello you
dunno what they are scavenging, I took them all 
The Cheeto dust equivalent for rosaries
is it possible to disable claw maidens without faydown cloak? 
Maybe with silk soar 

Haven't tried the forum out with clawmaidens, guessing it's significantly more painful if you are hoarding silk to heal
Favorite boss from the first game?
Mine is nosk
Nkg or absrad
Nkg
GPZ
finally....
Watcher Knights
GG
Markoth cuz godhome stockholm syndrome
but it feels so good to finally radiance him
Special thanks to @Tiny11990 the massive discovery that lead to all of this! Check out their video and channel:
On the Pogo Storage triggering Bench Storage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH-03OFg-oU
Channel with cool HK stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/@Tiny11990
Glitched World Record (at the time of upload) by @meemee_hk
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like i think i celebrated it almost as much as when i beat p5
yup yop of course people find ways to skip mandatory bosses now
first is needolin now this???
this is something that definitely wont be in any NMG routes
now i wonder if this is gonna be allowed in low%
low% runs typically arent the type of thing that go on speedrun websites, although i guess it depends on the game whether or not it would
(and thus I don't think they'd be confined to any sort of "NMG" thing)
usually low% runs allow everything
because it's a test of how badly you can break the game in the first place :^)
i wonder if skurry will use that to cut percentage in the form of ||clawline trobbio mirror and lace silkheart for bellbeast silkheart||
chat how's my score in juggle
very nice
does it get any harder after the seth score range, or does it cap out at the sets of 4?
it caps at 4, but their fall rate gets faster
so the hit rhythm gets faster
I lost 2 out of my 3 fails to invigorated fleas 
i watched the any% speedrun and i almost cried from laughing it was so funny how broken the game is
they fall fast enough that I think that reaper would not be able to keep up
wanderer is the goat for all of these but flea bounce
speedrun.com has low% for hk and ss
low%'s rating is also based on how fast can you complete the run
but obv a run with less percent is always more valuable
it's basically the same as hollow knight, i think? Although spawning an enemy is kinda new and wacky
no more 40 hour long low% speedruns, tragic
wtf i gota watch this
https://youtu.be/k8J3-wk4GOo oh this is pretty cool btw (someone prob shared this already)
This glitch is soooo much more than this one application, but hey this is the application I found first. And who could be upset about actually being able to use Hornet's Silk God mode in game? Expect to see major skips and testing to try and find the utilization of a literal out of bounds glitch that can seemingly be brought to every area of Pha...
its so sad that the weaver queen crest isnt real
although it does like. ACTUALLY affects the way your silk meter works??? which is pretty surprising
I just really like the way those silver masks look....
More so, it uncaps the silk limit
easier to code a quick uncap since the game already has a way to render your silk count
itโs kinda funny seeing things that used to do two damage do one now
like they usually keep the slashing animation (which indicates 2 one mask damage in a row)
and the patches happened during my playthrough, so idk all things changed 
apparently, cogs dealt double damage? 
did spinning things in the citadel vents too?? or iโm imagining it 
idk why the steam still does double damage
lava doing 2 masks is understandable especially with there being a tool to reduce it but why steam
steam can be extremely damaging!!! Its painful for me to even like. Put my hand above boiling water
Im not sure though. If its more damaging that literal moving crushing cogs and blades

yeah thatโs what i mean
the extra damage taken sound from barbed also plays despite receiving no damage from the first hit
you donโt need the mirror??
just donโt pick it up
low% stuff seems fun but i just know iโll accidentally pick something up
team cherry forgot that there is usually no silk access in platforming sections 
i guess they didnโt completely remove the whole thing, just damage 
also kinda funny inconsistency now, bells used by bell beast and bell eater do double damage, but by widow and in bellhart just one
yea widow was significantly less forgiving
lore reason: they used cheaper extra light weight bells in bellhart
meanwhile the bells go down so hard they bounce high off the floor
lore: they bounce because they have the bouncing liquid from Portal splashed on them
lore: phantom does 2 masks damage with parry because hornet does too (2.2 needle damage with cross stitch) 
I trust this theory
so loreful
huh, where's 100%
I believe this is the truth
I am very loreful
true ending spoilers ||team cherry should fix lost laceโs damage. all void attacks do double damage so lace should do two masks damage twice each hit
||
the barbed experience
wait does that mean i have 100% wr
did you folks know? void damage is NOT doubled with barbed 
what
(not including multihits)
yea i found that out when trying it out with the final boss
yes, you take 2 masks when touching voided enemies or getting hit by a void drop
lost garmond new strategy
8 mask damage with bracelet
fr
maybe silksong can be good
12 mask damage for one of the attacks
seems fair
aka instakill lmao
it isnโt
lifeblood
or totem of undying i mean fractured mask
oh lol
or magnetic dice luck 
ah i love the "dream luck" with like 12 mag dice proc at once
unless it works like carefree where the first hit is 0%
then in that case 6 procs
how does the dice protect multihits
does it have a chance to trigger every hit?
yes
you just need to trigger it once to negate 4 damage
wait its 6 masks
with barbed
aka less than a bomb guy in deep docks blowing you up into lava with barbed
(2 + 2) * 2 = 8 masks
why do dice not work against environmental damage
we talking about a hypothetical reality where lace attacks did 2 masks each hit for 4 total
in her 3 masks move, she'd do 6 if that was the case, or 12 with barbed
negating 1 of the 3 hits would reduce the damage to 8
bored
cuz you cant parry environmental damage
dice doesnโt parry though
but you can parry nylith's pollen and the mount fay's death lasers for some reason
carefree melody does i think
Mount fay has lasers?
work
i like to think of it as the enemy's attack missing cuz of dice
likely talking about servitor borans
the weaver thingy enemy that fire da lazor
Oh those
they should at least pretend itโs for exploring to justify it being a yellow tool 
fr
I love exploring with barbed bracelet
can you use cross stitch on projectiles though
Yeah but not all
yup
You can't parry void
cross stitch is so funny
Hornet should learn to do that after getting everbloom
ok you cant parry a void projectile but you can parry air(nyleth pollen)
Explosion?
is it a tool tier list
No
idk how to use cross stitch as an actual defensive thing ๐. like in what situations you wonโt have time to dash but will to parry? 
i tried to use it to parry trobbioโs tornadoes, but those are not unexpected quick attacks 
when the dash in question will cause you to go into a wall of spike deling two masks of damage cuz why not
its pogos
Dodging tornadoes is easy, dodging tornadoes and punishing them with pogo without taking damage is less easy
Cross stitch makes it a lot more consistent
usually spikes do 1 damage 
dang
correction: radiance spikes for some reason
yeah, like i do cross stitch damage and it puts me in a position to pogo
It's how realistic their needle attacks are
Why does hornet suddenly decide to swing her needle slower with reaper, we've seen you can handle it
aura
the knight do the same with a grub charm
Magic isn't real
Me, Shakra, and 8 max powered cogflies vs the high halls arena
Except when it is
chat what would hypothetical eva upgrades to other crests be
ah how often you use it
Beast upgrade that makes it not suck
Who
Wanderer would probably just be increased crit chances
also how hornet would do witch crest attacks
you canโt do this with a needle lol
in your first playthrough
I tried a bit of everything on my first playthroughs
I think for shaman crest it would be decreased silk skill cost
same
yea duh! needles are never that big irl 
but emphasis on "a bit" for beast
Did one whole playthrough with beast, for the rest I'm mostly using hunter
Funny how the only part of the game that makes me switch to beast in every playthrough is a platforming one
how
Give wanderer crest users 10% crit chance, nothing could possibly go wrong with that
it actually seems like hornet uses it like a vine thing, like there is a different sound
fr
I only switch off hunter to wanderer before focus upgrade
wanderer crest users try to use anything else but wanderer and hunter challenge(impossible
It's a sound of cutting air, needle could make this sound
if it aint broke don't fix it
eva wonโt upgrade them, you need to find bugs related to the original crestsโ owners 
fr
I do something else (use exclusively wanderer from the moment I unlock it)
no way dlc maybe
lmao
said eva to get on the same page but I'd be open to have crest upgrades from other sources
I'd love a beast upgrade that removes fury duration reduction with taking damage
if the upgrade's related to the crest i'd love to see what tc do for witch
Karmelita gives you the opportunity to upgrade beast crest post fight
nah cuz she's DEAD (rip)
Go back to red memory and beg white lady to buff witch
nah she should upgrade beast before the fight
Bind it from her corpse
damn
"you using beast? here, let me upgrade that pos" 
Karmelita is 100% the kind of bug to want to face you at your best
yup
โ
it seems to bend, a metal needle canโt do it
. witch crest attacks seem like from something flexible like a whip (hence the sound) 
Twisted bud
I think it's just fancy needle swings
but itโs not something the needle could do realistically 
Meanwhile beast splitting your needle into 3 somehow
I love my fucked up and evil wanderer build
plot twist: hornet doesnโt even use the needle but claws instead
I mean given what weโve seen in game from weavers
not out of the question
yeah
Needle swing animation in question
Lace 2/my favorite cutscene time 
thatโs just for aura
clawline is just pogo from the distance 
you can use it on anything that can pogo be used
like cogs
Like vertical spike walls
Evil time
Iโm about to fight sister splinter with gear that is set for early act 3
Except itโs not act 3 yet so not even a chance of the void giving her a chance
Less than 30 seconds to kill
yippe i started silksong now,, since im done with the first game 
simply reshape your needle to be a claw instead
Is there any needle upgrade guy before widow, or is needle upgrade guy locked behind widow
posts you
what 
defeated bell beast 
:3
I have the opinion that getting help for the fight makes it harder because of the extra stimulus distracting me from the actual attack cues
and also robbing me of more silk
hornet right as she's about to steal his heart to display it on her shelf 
you know it's kinda fucked up when you think about it like she knows damn well she doesnt need it if its her 4th
๐ญ just doing it for the love of the game
at least the new update makes it seem like its beneficial
(verdania regrowing)
they need to redo the dialouge lol
homophobic hornet
like the dialogue when he was locked up i was like DAMN okay
gilly goes visit karmelita a bit when she dies and asks hornet why she did it
before the everbloom, hornet properly says it's for saving the kingdom
but after getting it, she puts up a "I killed her for training" excuse 
๐ญ
thank god prince isnt gay only his husband is
only complaint
thank GOD
๐๐๐๐
welp first 3 hours went super nice i'll continue tomorrow 
so sleepy



