#Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

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clever furnace
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nah

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fuck bind gimmicks

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oh crap
I forgot I accepted the savage beastfly wish
so it's s.beastfly 2 time monksilly

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here I go}

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nvm I got hit before they summoned anything lol

full vale
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okkat...

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maybe i should use the beast crest later

clever furnace
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got em

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oh, I forgot about the hefty price tag on the vintage nectar monksilly

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ah, I got some silkeaters I can give to skynx

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nice, got enough now
gotta do the skarr gauntlet though so, wish me SKILL

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silly birb! -seth

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wawawa!

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k I got the nectar

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aight, disgraced chef lugoli time
the fan favorite monksilly

void prawn
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The last food I need is the rashers

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Yeah I'm never getting that oil

clever furnace
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here I got chat

clever furnace
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ok I actually lost the fractured to this idiot, but I came out on top monksilly

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nice!!!!

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I'm feeling wish thicket-y right now

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father of the flame time

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ez

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absolutely demolished it with the huge damage buff monksilly

misty isle
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damn just beat Lace before even hearing the part similar to Hornet theme fully

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btw for anyone trying to melt this fight: during the slash circle attack, spam needle throw and then do a run attack immediately as she lands + pogo

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yummy 5 hits worth of damage

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I guess using this bench for warp skips Fourth Chorus?

clever furnace
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so, I've heard good things about using the wish thicket route for the rasher

clever furnace
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you mean silkspear?

misty isle
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yeah

clever furnace
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mm, am feeling... unravelled

misty isle
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damn almost got this fight without song looping 💔 2 seconds too slow

clever furnace
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You almost died too slugfear -Seth

misty isle
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fell into an open hole in terrain after striking the second orb

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btw Hunter and Beast pogos give iframes apparently, pretty useful

clever furnace
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only if you hit them though

misty isle
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oh I am like 7 runs in and only now noticed the Moorwing shadow moving in background in room before their arena

clever furnace
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We noticed that on our first playthrough monklaugh -Seth

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wonder if skynx has any dialogue for giving em all silkeaters

misty isle
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YES YES YES FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

clever furnace
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damn why are you always so close to death

misty isle
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Moorwing 💔

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double contact damage was a mistake

clever furnace
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chat it's unravelled time

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i should melt them with my upgrades monksilly

misty isle
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ok Sister Splinter time

clever furnace
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🔥

misty isle
little ferry
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Sobbing

misty isle
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okay enough Silksong for today monksilly

little ferry
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Not even a minute passed monkwail

misty isle
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at least I have a route that gets me there in half an hour, just a bit bigger runback than Groal

little ferry
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I can't remember the names of like half of the bosses

clever furnace
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ok got em

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wonder what would sherma's reaction be if you died in her rescue attempt monksilly

misty isle
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getting back to the mission will give same dialogue

clever furnace
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nono, in a meta sense

misty isle
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oh, Sherma would be dead

clever furnace
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think he has no chance? you did open the exit for him at least

misty isle
dim harbor
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They did prove to be a bit sneaky, if they run the moment they can, they should be able to run away also they did not attack on sight sherma so

clever furnace
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damn, since when was grindle's shop so expensive

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imma
sands of karak
to get the needle upgrade asap

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rip lumble o7

sturdy heart
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that on crust khann glauntets is so awesome

clever furnace
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delete every enemy with just your needle monksilly
who needs tools

opaque shard
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truth

sturdy heart
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flintslate flea brew

sturdy heart
opaque shard
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Making a lace clay structure rn

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Am I cooking chat?

sturdy heart
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i think you should use silk for that, fire work!"!!

opaque shard
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Sadly idk how to knit 😦

clever furnace
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damn, wisp thicket route is really fast

sturdy heart
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wisp thicket after water shrine enters the chat

sturdy heart
clever furnace
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nothing better for now

sturdy heart
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🥹

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i see people using scuttlebrace but i never was found of it myself

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i just, turned around and dashed

opaque shard
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Its mostly for thr funnies

clever furnace
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found that video of scuttlebrace parries and it was super epic

sturdy heart
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parry scuttle parry scuttle parry scuttle

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challenge

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i wonder what is a cursed build in silksong

opaque shard
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Witches crest

sturdy heart
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:true:

clever furnace
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oh damn I'm too poor LMAO

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imma deliver supplies to bone bottom rq

sturdy heart
opaque shard
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Shamans crest + pollip pouch

sturdy heart
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shaman crest + wisp lantern

clever furnace
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chat I lost the swatch to pond skippers monksilly

opaque shard
sturdy heart
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swatch 🤔

clever furnace
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don't remember the name

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something like that
swag?

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got the hivesteel needle, NOW I strike really hard monksilly

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let's see how much a needle strike does now with all my buffs

sturdy heart
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handful of damage

clever furnace
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24 * 1.65 = 39.6
rounded to nearest it becomes 40
times 2 strikes equals 80 damage monksilly

sturdy heart
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needle strikes are so awesome

clever furnace
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for comparison, my silkspear does 51

sturdy heart
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oh my god shaman needle strike

opaque shard
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Ugghh I need to makes laces brain smaller for her body to carry it

sturdy heart
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i did not know needle strikes could break gurr's traps

clever furnace
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they can? I just avoided them

sturdy heart
gentle cedar
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i love gurr

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cool ass design

opaque shard
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Ok this clay structure is going awful

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shes broken in 8 differenct places

clever furnace
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enraged conchfly time

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ez enough

split sluice
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The duality of skarr bosses:
you have a fight that is easily forgotten, and feels too easy for the stage of the game it’s at
and then you have:
what is commonly considered one of the top two bosses in the game, amazing music, incredible lore, and is named gurr the outcast (/silly)

opaque shard
clever furnace
opaque shard
clever furnace
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Ture... -Seth

opaque shard
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Also hello seth dont think I seen you before

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or maybe im having Alzheimers

clever furnace
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No, i dont think ive talked to you either -Seth

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Im the only straight cis one in the whole system lol -Seth

opaque shard
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lmao must be lonely

clever furnace
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Nah, idc
I relate more with queer people anyways with being a femboy and all -Seth

opaque shard
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Lol than must be nice

wide ledge
clever furnace
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Reaper crest is dope rivboowomp
Haters are wrong slugsad -Seth

hardy jolt
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YAY A REAPER SUPPORTER slugpawshake

opaque shard
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Different hornets based on crests

ashen badger
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How did i never know the bonebottom people survives act 3 and settles in the area where the fleas were monkwail

hardy jolt
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mantis hornet with beast crest is my favorite

opaque shard
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It was suppose to look like herrah lol

hardy jolt
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even cooler monksilly

dim harbor
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Thats awesome

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It changing hornets nature in such way too

ashen badger
dim harbor
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Did not notice that tbh

ashen badger
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You can talk with the fixer there

dim harbor
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Oh

ashen badger
dim harbor
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Same here

ashen badger
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They don't do or tell you much but it's cool to see them

dim harbor
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True

ashen badger
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Also learned that you can encounter Pebb the merchant as an enemy when you buy all her things

dim harbor
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Yup i did not realise this at first

broken plover
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Is steel soul unlocked like hollow knights steel soul

dim harbor
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I think so but you can also unlock it with a code

broken plover
dim harbor
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Iirc in credits

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Up down up down left right left right

vocal canyon
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Huh, cool. Didn't know that

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Of course its Konami code

dim harbor
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Also its in extras my bad

dim harbor
dim harbor
digital robin
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"The surface climb is to easy. It becomes boring super fast". Less crazy challenge-runner:
https://youtu.be/AJSVHxwIHpA

This platforming section may be challenging to newer players, but personally, i found beating this with ease. So i indulged myself with not using the claw line ability, utilizing the beast crest's needle strike attack to make this more doable, although i only needed it once.

Additionally, i used the leap move where you jump off a wall by pressi...

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hardy jolt
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that actually doesnt seem too bad monksilly

split sluice
hardy jolt
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thats okay ill use the better crest (shaman)

split sluice
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All crests have been replaced with wanderer, hope this helps!

hardy jolt
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deletes bilewater

wide ledge
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all crests have been replaced with BEAST

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with no FLEA BREW

hardy jolt
split sluice
hardy jolt
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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thats not what i said CyanLizBITE

split sluice
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Choral chambers is to be replaced with bilest-water

hardy jolt
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dies

split sluice
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They should add act 4 where every area is bilewater

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@hardy jolt :3

hardy jolt
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silksong but the citadel polluted every region

split sluice
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Ok but genuinely an act 4 where you mainly focus on repairing and rebuilding pharloom would be cool

hardy jolt
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its honestly probably gonna come in the future monksilly

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verdania grass stuff yknow yknow

split sluice
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Purewater

hardy jolt
dim harbor
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I wonder how much more stuff will silksong get

tawdry osprey
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Wr are getting silksong 2 tomorrow

broken plover
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The knight gets grimmchild, and hornet gets whatever the fuck the twisted bud is

hardy jolt
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dumb baby

dim harbor
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I think knight has a better child

sturdy heart
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witch crest though,,,,

clever furnace
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ok why wasn't I spamming needle strike before monksilly

sturdy heart
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i saw like two videos of crest tierlist and one of them the creator of the video said that needle strikes suck(not entirely, feels sluggish or something)

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and didn't come up to be like HK or something

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not hating on them but all needle strikes are so awesome....

clever furnace
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specially when they do 80 damage

sturdy heart
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hunter's needle strike is so useful too

sturdy heart
clever furnace
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finally someone who appreciates just how hard the combo hits monksilly

sturdy heart
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barbed wire gaming feels so good but holy i get hit all the time

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one day i'll be sweating silksong no hit all bosses

clever furnace
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no shards or silk holding it back, you can do insane damage by shrimply gitting gud

sturdy heart
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and truly appreciate hunter focus

sturdy heart
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(afaik)

clever furnace
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65% total monksilly

sturdy heart
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awesome

clever furnace
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needle strike does more damage than silkspear

sturdy heart
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and still, silkspear is useful

clever furnace
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though I did equip volt filament to bring it up a tier

wide ledge
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godhome dlc next month

sturdy heart
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shaman crest build WITHOUT volt filament

sturdy heart
wide ledge
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goated mod

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10 thousand first sinner replays

sturdy heart
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500 first sinners

clever furnace
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let's see, 17 * 3 * 1.25 = 63.75, rounded to nearest 64
64 + 5 = 69 damage for a hivesteel volt silkspear, nice

wide ledge
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not nice.

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im explodimg. you

clever furnace
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accepts my fate

sturdy heart
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can you explain what the numbers mean

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i mean what they are

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what is 17

clever furnace
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17 is hivesteel needle damage

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multiplied by 3 for a silkspear

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multiplied by 1.25 for volt filament buff

dim harbor
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I wonder how godhome would look like in silksong

clever furnace
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plus 5 for a simgle tick of electric damage

sturdy heart
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simgle

sturdy heart
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what is the shaman multiplier again

sturdy heart
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its their whole thing!!

dim harbor
sturdy heart
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bilehaven glauntet with arena modifications

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then groal the greater with diff attacks

sturdy heart
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is it soemthing something 42

wide ledge
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groal the greatest

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30 minute runback

sturdy heart
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the runback was fun

wide ledge
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12 wave arena

clever furnace
dim harbor
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Beastfly 2 but with only 2 platform so you have to pogoslugevil

sturdy heart
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beastfly but they summon putrified ducts primal aspid wannabe

wide ledge
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already exists

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thankfully the flies dont shoot

sturdy heart
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is that uhh that modded beastfly in bilehaven

wide ledge
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yeah

clever furnace
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good news, spit squits are deleted by hunter needle strike with focus 1 + barbed monksilly

sturdy heart
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damn

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i gotta fight that yet

wide ledge
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idk

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imagine coding

sturdy heart
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vibe coding 😱

clever furnace
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spit squit is funny name

wide ledge
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they make me Quit when they Spit (s)

sturdy heart
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from all the tools in the game i think rosary gun should've done better

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i wish you could reload the rosaries without a bench

wide ledge
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shouldve dealt 50 damage

sturdy heart
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should have an option to when using architect up bind use one rosary string (80) to reload that outside benches

sturdy heart
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also buff architect and make it so tools cost 50% less to repair

wide ledge
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buff architect

sturdy heart
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buff architect AGAIN and make it even more awesome

wide ledge
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make the pogo not ass

sturdy heart
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the pogo is fine 😌

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make the pogo a wannabe delver's drill

wide ledge
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buff architect, 5 red slots

sturdy heart
wide ledge
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neutral, up, down, left and right

sturdy heart
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down and diagonal for the fifth tool

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or, that

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yeah

wide ledge
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8 red slots

sturdy heart
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left of absolute silkshot

wide ledge
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nine , red

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18 red slots, use another button for the second one

sturdy heart
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give architect a silkskill slot and it would suck

wide ledge
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this is what the gms crest wouldve been if team cherry wasnt evil

void prawn
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Hey gang

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Any tips for lost lace gang

sturdy heart
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grandmother silk crest, attacks are now telegraphed nails

sturdy heart
wide ledge
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it doesnt inflict sadness thankfully

sturdy heart
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use silksoar in phase transition and leave void 💯

sturdy heart
void prawn
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Any tools I should change

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I'm using weighted belt dice the skitter thing for my yellows

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Cogflys and saws for my reds

sturdy heart
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tools is preference, i use my melee on lace 3 more than silk skills and tools

void prawn
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Counter for my silk skill

sturdy heart
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red tools i mean

wide ledge
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i use my needle on any lace fight more than anything

void prawn
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And injecter band warding bell and multibinder

wide ledge
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warding bell stinks

sturdy heart
wide ledge
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doing what i Said never gets you hit

sturdy heart
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🙏

void prawn
sturdy heart
wide ledge
wide ledge
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uum

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mmm

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memory crystal

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yeah

sturdy heart
void prawn
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Is there anyway to predict which of laces two counter variations is gonna happen

sturdy heart
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i'm not sure

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but depending on the way shes facing

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i neutral jump after triggering her parry and dash forward

clever furnace
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I don't think so, but jumping over her avoids both

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and set you up for a punish on the grounded version

sturdy heart
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or you could be swag and parry her counterattack

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parry the parry

sturdy heart
void prawn
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For me normally I dash forward due to her using her air counter most of the time

wide ledge
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would also work when gorunded

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yeah

void prawn
sturdy heart
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you can outrun the melee parry if you're react fast enough and silkspeed

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i think

wide ledge
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always use reaper

sturdy heart
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always use [Crest of your preference]

void prawn
sturdy heart
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i don't use scuttlebrace,,,,

void prawn
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Oh scuttlebrace could help actual

wide ledge
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i wonder how does one use scuttlebrace i genuinelky

void prawn
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I just don't have it memorised to use in case

woven basin
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I use wanderers crest because I realized I only used cogflys when I used architects crest also I HATE the architects crest melee

wide ledge
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to do it

sturdy heart
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its like doing the downward dash but you go back instead

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i think

void prawn
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Exactly how it works

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Goes in the opposite direction you're facing

sturdy heart
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idk i use downward dash like, one time

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in FotF

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or when i'm going through a very high vertical transition and hornet falling face in looks sick

wide ledge
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farter over the fence

woven basin
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Guys why are the snail shamans so evil and mean):

sturdy heart
void prawn
wide ledge
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no more oooii ❤️

woven basin
void prawn
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Blaming us for the apocalypse they made

woven basin
sturdy heart
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caretaker: "hornet we beat GMS and saved the citadel!! hooray!!!"
hornet: "THERES AN ACT 3??????"

void prawn
void prawn
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Blaming us for something they made when all hornet did was get the items

woven basin
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Uhhhh

wide ledge
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chill they havent experienced peak yet

sturdy heart
void prawn
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Shaman being evil architects crest is weird to me

sturdy heart
wide ledge
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i could never with shaman i think my on-air bind is too good

wide ledge
void prawn
woven basin
wide ledge
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it shits you down for some evil reason

woven basin
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Also heal

sturdy heart
void prawn
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Man I wanna do witch crest but it's act 3 so it's gonna be 8x harder

sturdy heart
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the bind is very evil, i didn't like it at first

woven basin
wide ledge
woven basin
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But I'm also skill issue

sturdy heart
void prawn
split sluice
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Wanderer my beloved

sturdy heart
wide ledge
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can NAKED crest survive act 3

woven basin
sturdy heart
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i just use injector band with it and call it a day

woven basin
sturdy heart
void prawn
wide ledge
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10 years to beat up a single voided enemy

void prawn
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But hey you can bind

sturdy heart
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it doesn't survive because hornet needs faydown cloak

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cursed crest isn't all that bad imo

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its just no tools and no bind

woven basin
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Ok dude what are you yapping about

split sluice
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ok but no bind is like such a big deal

void prawn
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Yeah it isn't bad you just don't have any tools and can't heal while benches are spaced 8 miles away

woven basin
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It's bad I think your just too good at the game

sturdy heart
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no i definitely suck

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but yeah

woven basin
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No

sturdy heart
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bind is a big deal tbh i'm not gonna say git gud

wide ledge
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no bind would explode me but it wasnt that bad when i was doing the quest on act 3

sturdy heart
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but toolless is fine

void prawn
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But isnt the witch crest quest just go to shellwood to greymoor

sturdy heart
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witch crest is literally nuke with bind

woven basin
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If you are doing fine with stuff like that you are good

split sluice
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Also why would I use [INSERT NON-WANDERER CREST] when I could use wanderer crest

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:3

void prawn
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Also I have beast shaman wanderer hunter architect reaper isn't witch the last crest I need or sum

sturdy heart
split sluice
wide ledge
sturdy heart
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now everyone has to actually play the game and LEARN the downward pogo

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(which is awesome btw i love it)

void prawn
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Hk vets having to play with a different moveset

wide ledge
split sluice
void prawn
woven basin
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To be honest I found first sinner harder then gms idk if that's a popular opinion or if I'm stupid

wide ledge
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wanderers crest mains try not to ram into every boss ever and actually learn them

void prawn
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ONLY WITCH HUNTER BEAST AND ARCHITECT

sturdy heart
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beast downward pogo is a minor nuisance

split sluice
sturdy heart
void prawn
sturdy heart
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and then i did GMS first try

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😭

void prawn
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The only bosses I've first tried is craw father and phantom

wide ledge
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i struggled badly with gms for some reason

sturdy heart
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hey is HK spoilers fine here, it says silksong but i'm unsure

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kay

wide ledge
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the only bosses ive first tried is moss mother (1) and voltguy

sturdy heart
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and the attacks are similar

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in some way

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the nails mostly

split sluice
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GMS was too weak imo

sturdy heart
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also hornet movement is so awesome

wide ledge
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gms and the ending screamed that it wasnt the end

sturdy heart
wide ledge
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good game design

split sluice
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I get it’s meant to drive you to act 3, but even then GMS should not be that weak in lore

wide ledge
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chill she just took a century long nap

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i would be ass if i did that too

sturdy heart
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GMS should also have silk pillars coming from the side and summon temporary silk nails that home into hornet

wide ledge
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gms should bind

sturdy heart
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cough cough

sturdy heart
split sluice
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(Intense yet distant weaver screaming)

wide ledge
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i enjoy how all the weavers in the game had a fakeout death

sturdy heart
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i think its their thing™

split sluice
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Every one of them

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GMS, Widow, First sinner, even lace (kinda) got in on the action!

sturdy heart
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however lace isn't a weaver

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as far as i know

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more like learning from her mother

split sluice
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I would say she and phantom are half siblings to the weavers

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Same mother, but with a different outside factor

sturdy heart
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phantom is so awesome

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imagine being spun from THREAD rofl:

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imagine being grey with age

split sluice
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Phantom is cool

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I really want like a ‘threadspun phantom’ type fight where we see her at her full strength

wide ledge
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phantom was easy (not for me) because the mist was the beating

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my goodness i took like 10 attempts going through it

sturdy heart
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mist more like

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🌫️

wide ledge
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did you know? you dont need mantis claw in order to go to phantom

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helps time in speedruns.

sturdy heart
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Did you know? you actually do need cling grip to get to needolin to get to phantom

wide ledge
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this is because it is cling grip and not mantis claw

sturdy heart
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lost seth 💔

void prawn
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You think that weavers chase down more powerful beings to reproduce since

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I heard there's only female weavers

sturdy heart
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imagine if herrah had a child with the pale king

void prawn
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But make sense on why Hornert loves saws

sturdy heart
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oh oh

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imagine if that child was trained by vespa

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and was nicknamed hornet because of that

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imagine imagine

void prawn
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That migggght explain why the third nail upgrade has hexagons

void prawn
clever furnace
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chat how does one complete broodfeast asap

sturdy heart
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you just don't and wait for act 3

void prawn
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Wait till act 3 trust

sturdy heart
opal totem
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Are skewered organs dropping only from 2 tools

void prawn
sturdy heart
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you can use delver's for skewred which i found very okay

void prawn
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Wait that may be shredded

clever furnace
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uhh
you could get them if you got to keep the needle phial monksilly

sturdy heart
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wait skwered is the pierced one right

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ohh yeah uhhh

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i think longpin

clever furnace
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skewered only has 2 tools otherwise

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And I meant if y'all have any area recommendations

sturdy heart
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i did it on materium tbh

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memorium

opal totem
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Yeah memorium sounds good

sturdy heart
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memorium

opal totem
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A lot of low hp enemies and a bench nearby

void prawn
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I haven't done it yet but do the first first first area

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Trust

opal totem
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Or just swap tools and play normally

clever furnace
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hm, I was thinking of shellwood too, pond skipper spawn indefinitely

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but memorium sounds good

wide ledge
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I love memorium

void prawn
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Items sink in water

clever furnace
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don't they float for a bit before sinking

void prawn
opal totem
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Those bugs also respawn slowly

clever furnace
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man can wispfire lantern hit the broad side of a barn, jesus hunterkek

void prawn
#

OHHH

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wispfire might actually get scorched organs

clever furnace
#

and it does 10 damage! piece of shit tool

#

yes it does get seared

void prawn
#

Yippe

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Ok now I just need a tool to easily get skewered organs

clever furnace
#

architect neelde strike gets shredded monksilly

clever furnace
#

ok got all organs

#

yep, just tried it out
Found out about it on the wiki

void prawn
#

Since I used architects for a while after getting it because of her death

opal totem
broken plover
#

Possibly soilers

opal totem
#

Reply failure

clever furnace
#

chat opinions on longclaw

sturdy heart
#

awesome tool, not entirely necessary on some crests but def mandatory (for me) in wanderer

opal totem
#

Most of silksong's crests feel like they have longnail by default

clever furnace
#

hm, there isn't really anything better to buff my needle though

opal totem
#

Buff other things then

clever furnace
#

ehhh...
egg of flealia is like, too much even for me
not even I can keep a flawless run up for long

dense wasp
#

that or pin badge

clever furnace
#

it has bad sinergy with barbed since you may not heal completely with it more often}

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act 2 still

opal totem
#

Try other things

sturdy heart
#

what other things gng

opal totem
#

On my last non steel soul I used a lot of snitch pick

dense wasp
#

snitch pick is not that good

#

its only 5 extra damage and only on harpoon

void prawn
#

But hey

#

It removes the need to kill things to get money

opal totem
#

Now that I don't kill most things anyway

clever furnace
#

killing is my name with hunter barbed monksilly
delete enemies by holding attack

void prawn
#

Holding attack does the charge attack

clever furnace
#

yes, needle strike

#

pocket 80 damage on demand

void prawn
#

How much hp does lost lace have

void prawn
clever furnace
#

gotta git gud for it though, it is very VERY facetank-unfriendly

void prawn
#

Well?

#

How much hp does IT have

opal totem
#

No you gotta cry for barbed buff so it does +1 dmg instead of x2

void prawn
#

HOW MUCH HP DOES LOST LACE HAVE

sturdy heart
#

a handful

sturdy heart
#

funny

opal totem
#

But I'm not gonna tell you

void prawn
void prawn
opal totem
#

Do you think if silksong has equivalent of radiant bosses they'll all have 25% extra hp because there's no reason to not run barbed against them

clever furnace
#

Would make sense

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Btw, there are unused godhome files in silksong -Seth

void prawn
#

WOWZA

clever furnace
glad stratus
#

How many appearances does Seth have?

clever furnace
#

though, you are still giving up 1 yellow slot

void prawn
#

Yes this does it for grounded bosses

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They just fall

clever furnace
glad stratus
opal totem
#

Could be relevant for some crests I guess

void prawn
glad stratus
opal totem
#

Like running weighted belt on witch instead of barbed

void prawn
clever furnace
#

does witch have no recoil to begin with

opal totem
#

Witch has the potential needle strike

void prawn
#

Is this a sign to get witch after lost lace

opal totem
#

No

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Get it before lace so you can experience the joy of pogo making you take damage

void prawn
#

But it's too much work to leave the abyss rn

opal totem
#

I wish there was a shortcut

void prawn
#

I ain't going all the way up to the diving bell rn

opal totem
#

There should be like a breakable wall in the right side of the abyss gated behind a large pool of void so you can only reach it on the second visit

void prawn
#

I'm at the bench right before lost lace

wide ledge
#

right you can't get to the abyss while cursed

#

smh..

opal totem
#

You can I think

#

Just can't fight lace

wide ledge
#

damn

void prawn
#

How come

opal totem
#

Hornet refuses

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I saw there's unique dialogue for it

void prawn
#

YET SHE DOESN'T REFUSE TO FIGHT GMS?

wide ledge
#

she knows the parasite will kill them in the void I guess

clever furnace
#

something about the parasite having heavy adversion for the void
when you can take a skinny dip on it just fine with the everbloom monksilly

wide ledge
#

idk I didn't see the dialogue

broken plover
#

I love how 50/50 of people i know that play silksong are like "twisted bud my beloved" or "twisted bud my beloathed"

wide ledge
#

fuckass baby

#

I hate it

opal totem
#

Twisted bud my thing I have no particular feelings for

clever furnace
#

"some would argue" oh fuck off hornet, just admit that your job in hallownest was stupid

glad stratus
sturdy heart
#

what is that minimap 💔

wide ledge
#

damn it shows the room name

#

interesting

opal totem
#

Wanderer if it was balanced

glad stratus
clever furnace
#

wanderer if it stink even more

wide ledge
#

I was going to say why does wanderer have 3 yellow slots but like
it's called wanderer
what am I saying

glad stratus
#

Fuck these flea mini games are so funscavpearl

clever furnace
#

would save and quitting at the start of act 3 in steel soul be cheesy?

sturdy heart
#

honestly after going so far i wouldn't even care if i was cheesing it

clever furnace
#

eh... it really sucks you're put against black-threaded enemies with just 4 masks

sturdy heart
#

voidtouched enemies

#

coughs in risk of rain 2

void prawn
opal totem
#

They should've put some silk spools on the way to that arena

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Or make you start with max silk so you can get 2 binds

void prawn
#

I need a mod to remove all damage

#

Also the act 3 witch crest quest doesn't sound TOO bad

#

It's just make it to a spot in greymoor then a spot in sinners road then go back to the spot in greymoor

opal totem
#

Act 3 witch good because tanky enemies = more heal

sturdy heart
#

act 3 sucks where is my act 4

glad stratus
glad stratus
opal totem
glad stratus
void prawn
#

Act 4: the fleas take over

opal totem
#

What did they do to the flea spirit

void prawn
#

That's why the fleas aren't taken over by any infection

#

They're too strong

broken plover
broken plover
#

Act 6, flea wars

glad stratus
#

Act 7: Fuck it we remade hollow Knight with the fleas

broken plover
#

Act 8: Hungry knight but with fleas

clever furnace
#

chat, what are silk hearts
they don't look much of a heart to me

opal totem
#

Silk hearts that don't look like hearts for Hornet that doesn't look like hornet

#

Makes sense to me

clever furnace
#

ok I get it, I was just curious about yours or somebody else's thought about silk hearts

#

I know stuff doesn't have to make sense

broken plover
#

Is there a possible way to upgrade my needle before moorwing

opal totem
#

Yeah, by skipping moorwing

broken plover
#

And how is said skip executed

opal totem
#

Get flea caravan to move to greymoor

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Or enter shellwood through wormways

broken plover
#

Okie dokie

clever furnace
#

ok why does barbed hunter do so much damage

dense wasp
#

can someone who uses witch crest tell me how you use it

#

it feels like im using it right but the output feels really low

split sluice
opal totem
#

You're poking things to death, skewered makes the most sense to me

clever furnace
#

witch's gimmick is that the bind does damage
it has more blue slots than usual too ig, but that's about everything witch has

dense wasp
#

i know how the mechanics of it work im asking how you actually use it effectively

clever furnace
#

oh yea, needle strike is pretty decent if you can connect all of its hits

opal totem
#

"If" and "when" but never "is"

#

One of the potential needle strikes ever

clever furnace
#

witch exists, that's as much I can give it
pretty much tailor made for an offensive bind build with claw mirrors n'stuff

split sluice
#

Worst crest probably still beast

dense wasp
#

thats just not true

#

beast is better than witch and reaper

opal totem
#

That's true

dense wasp
#

beast has a higher skill floor compared to most the crests but its around the same power level as hunter

#

also it has the best or second best pogo in the game i havent decided yet

opal totem
#

I don't feel comfortable trading a proper bind and convenient moveset for the potential dps boost

clever furnace
#

same? I wanna see beast making gms go into her second stage while on her first stagger monksilly

opal totem
#

Its pogo has decent uses but it's just not a pogo

dense wasp
#

it works fine as a pogo ive gone out of my way to use it for all the parkour segments

#

i had like one issue in shellwood and that was it

opal totem
#

I'm talking about combat

#

It's fine for most of platforming

#

Good even

clever furnace
#

oh yea, that one part on shellwood kek

clever furnace
opal totem
#

So basically don't have pogo

clever furnace
#

like a fake retreat ig

opal totem
#

No sprint pogo or clawline pogo combos

clever furnace
dense wasp
opal totem
#

Maybe against some fatties

#

And even then it doesn't feel as responsive as hunter or wanderer due to pogo windup

dense wasp
#

you can do it against smalls too you just have to do the uh

#

you can like control the angle of it by holding movement keys idk how else to describe it

opal totem
#

Put extra effort to make it as good as hunter

#

Sums up beast

#

I feel like I made it work as best as I could but overall it didn't feel that much better than other crests

#

Like it's great against 1/3 of things and bad against 1/3 of things

dense wasp
opal totem
#

I feel more comfortable using witch tbh

#

At least I'm more used to its moveset

#

Though witch's tradeoffs are also questionable

clever furnace
#

witch's only true build seems to be injector band + multibinder + claw mirrors monksilly
any other blue tool build is better used with another crest

#

oh, vesticrest slot can be wtv

dense wasp
#

you can probably slot sawtooth circlet in there replacing multibinder if you wanted

#

it does 28 damage now after the patch and you can combo it out of the pogo or sprint attack decently

#

(multibinder is +21dmg for reference)

opal totem
#

Oh yeah fuck witch's pogo

#

Sometimes the game just decides you deserve to take damage from horizontal attacks because you dared to use it

broken plover
#

Til I learned hornet has a taunt for if you have no silk (hits the taunt pose and swings needle)

clever furnace
#

much less epic without the cost though 💔

#

About taunts, I forgot beast has a unique taunt
I take back anything I've said about beast

broken plover
#

Poshanka is my favorite taunt

#

I decided to do the stupid and fight moorwing, garmond and zaza joined but they ain't doin shit monkwail

clever furnace
#

lmao

#

why did they get the clown character treatment monkwail

#

and then you're supposed to get all sentimental n'shit when fighting lost garmond like cmon I didn't feel a thing for that bozo

broken plover
#

Zaza is absolutely adorable though

#

Just a Lil guy

glad stratus
broken plover
#

Discord please

#

I would like to watch the video

#

Discord please cooperate with me

#

White pinwheel of death my beloathed.....

glad stratus
#

sadge....

opal totem
#

Garmond tried his best

#

He's just not built for this

glad stratus
#

He could've tried a little harder at the conductors melody at least

split sluice
#

Last judge is a great final boss for act 1

#

Until you fight phantom

opal totem
#

Phantom feels more like mid act 1 boss

split sluice
#

I can never go back to last judge now

clever furnace
#

why not both

broken plover
#

Is there a mod that makes hornet as vocal as she was In the first game, im suffering from "Shaw!" And "eidno!" Withdrawal

broken plover
#

Oh thank god

glad stratus
#

You can also make it randomly chose from old and new voice lines

glad stratus
broken plover
#

I know its unlikely considering that one ending, but I kinda hope godseeker returns in some way

#

I like bossrush modes

distant holly
#

randi weird routerivflabbergasted

little ferry
#

If you could meet them more outside of battle it would hit better

opal totem
#

Exploration issue I think

#

He gets about as many encounters as Sherma

distant holly
#

beat cogwork dancers at 4 hours mark 💔, i think i can do better, the sub 5 hours seems pretty doable monksilly

broken plover
#

These bozos in the wormways think they Garpedes 😂

little ferry
opal totem
#

I disagree

little ferry
#

He just kinda exists with a bit of storytelling in his dialogue

distant holly
little ferry
#

I did miss one encounter at the roof thing where you duel for funsies

distant holly
#

do you think wanderer really worth it here though

opal totem
#

Reply failure

#

I didn't do moorwing skip either

#

Were you stuck at any boss?

distant holly
#

it also skips all greymoor

opal totem
#

There's not a lot of greymoor before moorwing tbh

distant holly
opal totem
#

Not sure what took you 4 hours then

distant holly
#

sinner’s road actually slugtroll

opal totem
#

I finished act 1 in less than 2h and cogwork dancers are 5 mins into act 2 with phantom route

opal totem
distant holly
#

the sinner’s road itself, there is a room with so many enemies monksilly

#

the mist was actually easier than i thought lol

opal totem
#

Mist was the harder part for me

#

A lot of sinner's road enemies you can just run past

distant holly
#

third room will always have all horizontal connections be valid

#

and the last will have the right (if the room has only one right connection)

#

you can also return to the previous room and it will generate a new solution for it monksilly

opal totem
#

Finding the right exit is not a problem, it's wraiths

distant holly
#

yeah, they’re kinda bad monksilly

#

i try to jump and pogo them right after they scream

opal totem
#

They just take a lot of time to deal with them carefully

#

And the terrain isn't always the best for combat

distant holly
#

that’s also why it can be useful to use the previous room again instead, if it’s a small one

#

ideally, the strategy is:

  1. solve the first room
  2. solve the second room (or return to first and solve it again)
  3. enter any left entrance and the transition room
  4. solve the room
  5. return and exit through the right (unless the room has 2 right entrances)
#

you can enter the transition room through right too but then there’s a chance there won’t be a right entrance in the next room, meaning there will be an additional room

#

funny, but it doesn’t really feel like you’re underpowered despite ignoring most of optional stuff monksilly .

there is only one mask upgrade in act 1, after all inveyes

broken plover
#

Did not know wormways was a neat shortcut to wanderers crest, I missed playing like the knight

opal totem
#

You don't feel underpowered until the forum

distant holly
opal totem
#

I think cogwork dancers took me more attempts than the forum

#

I just greeded too much

distant holly
#

wanderer crest worked really great at cogwork dancers lol

dense wasp
distant holly
#

also you get access to flea brew if you move the caravan so it’s also good

dense wasp
#

and also it gets easier if you use clawline a lot

distant holly
dense wasp
#

honestly i dont know how it works

#

theres a steam guide for the route that gets them if you check on there

distant holly
#

cogflies should be along the way

dense wasp
#

all i can say is do moorwing instead of fleas

opal totem
#

I think on my speedrun save the first time I met Garmond was when I went back to 100% it and he was at his duel spot

distant holly
opal totem
#

Does flea brew even stack with wanderer

distant holly
#

also all but 1 flea is along the way

distant holly
#

and it increases it by more than hunter crest too

#

for some reason

dense wasp
#

yeah flea brew is weird

#

15% for hunter and witch, 25% for beast (though it gives a smaller boost while fury is active) and architect, 35% for reaper and wanderer

opal totem
#

I didn't feel like it has any effect on beast

dense wasp
#

i only really like it on reaper to counteract the swing speed and beast to help build silk if you end up with downtime

distant holly
#

i don’t think moorwing would be faster

opal totem
#

I think I only got one flea and that's because I forgot where to go

dense wasp
#

off the top of my head its probably faster to do moorwing and if youre using wanderer then itd be better to just use cogflies

distant holly
hardy jolt
#

awooooo :3

quiet sentinel
#

awooooooo :3

little ferry
#

Awoooooo :3

opaque shard
#

Awoooooooooooooo

distant holly
#

that’s what fleas say

#

actually

#

at approximately what time i should be fighting widow and phantom respectively?

#

for the sub 5 hours achievement

opaque shard
#

Finishing hour was like 3h and 20 smthing mins

distant holly
#

did you skip sister splinter though

opaque shard
#

Ye

distant holly
#

why this skip is so easy

#

fourth chorus can also be skipped but i’m gonna fight it anyway slugtroll

opaque shard
#

I also skipped lace 1 and moorwing in my speedrun lol

distant holly
#

how do you skip lace 1 easily though

#

i thought fighting would be faster

opaque shard
#

Get money for the simple key get all 5 grubs and immediately at greymoore

#

Not grubs fleas wtf

distant holly
#

but it cost like 500 rosaries monksilly

opaque shard
#

You gotta know where the monehs are

#

i didnt spend em on the benches

distant holly
#

i think i’m gonna fight lace, but i will skip moorwing though

opaque shard
#

Theres a moneh chest in moss groto

#

two hidden more rosaries places in marrow

distant holly
opaque shard
#

True lol

distant holly
#

wait where is the chest in moss grotto

opaque shard
#

Under the moss mother entrance

distant holly
#

pretty funny how first two needle upgrades are free, but third one requires like one of the most complex quests

distant holly
hardy jolt
#

1st upgrade: yay free nail upgrade :D
2nd upgrade: woah pale oil just sitting here!!!
3rd upgrade: go across all corners of pharloom searching for 5 different scarce ingredients to satiate the appetite of the great gourmand
4th upgrade: flea.... juggle..........

glad stratus
hardy jolt
#

🥹

#

we found em

glad stratus
#

Especially after Seth fucking WIPED the floor with me holy shit fuck you 💔

hardy jolt
#

the one the flea minigame mod was made for

distant holly
#

wait do you think extra dps from poison would worth time loss, to help with forum arena later

opaque shard
#

The hornet took me 2 hours person

opaque shard
#

but you can get garmounds help if you want

distant holly
#

you really did evil gourmand quest instead??

opaque shard
#

I also got the silk storm

#

which helped a lot

distant holly
#

i feel like gourmand quest would take me like 2 hours on its own lol

#

probably just gonna use wanderer crest

#

with cogflies

#

or evolved hunter with cogflies and flintslate

#

seems like the best options

opaque shard
distant holly
#

well, since i’m skipping moorwing it is along the way

opaque shard
#

Yeah

#

I think I used wanderers + fleabrew and attacked like a rabid dog

distant holly
#

though in this case getting poison might worth it

#

it adds poison effect around you

opaque shard
#

I also got 1 extra max I think

distant holly
#

the what hunterbaffled

opaque shard
#

Mask

#

how am I this bad at spelling wtf

unreal hedge
hardy jolt
#

dies

tawdry osprey
#

sorry you arent allowed to die

sudden plover
#

Headcanon: hornet would be a cat person

hardy jolt
fossil sorrel
#

is revolklim like a boss

opaque shard
#

Whomst

clever furnace
#

hello hunters wanderers beasts reapers architects witches and shamans

opaque shard
#

Hello soup

fossil sorrel
#

a what about the. slabbed

tawdry osprey
#

what about revolklim

fossil sorrel
#

^

opaque shard
#

Whos revolklim monkwail

fossil sorrel
#

Idk

#

Is my name really that hard to read white_broken_heart

opaque shard
#

wait thats ur name? monkwail

tawdry osprey
#

yes 🥹

fossil sorrel
#

yuurp

opaque shard
#

It looked like symbols so I didnt bother monkdesperation

fossil sorrel
#

lmao

tawdry osprey
#

very bad

#

next time try harder

opaque shard
mental shuttle
hardy jolt
#

juggles the hardest for most people

#

me included

digital robin
#

Dodge is probably worse due to RNG

tawdry osprey
#

juggle is the hardest idc

#

all the others were so easy to get

clever furnace
tawdry osprey
#

i still have nightmares with getting seth score on flea juggle

#

🥹

digital robin
#

For me, difficulty-wise is: Dodge > Juggle >>> Poggo

broken plover
#

Holy shit i was reattempting moorwing and Wanderers crest carried me

opaque shard
#

Different Hornets based on crests

tawdry osprey
broken plover
tawdry osprey
#

then i realised

#

but very nice, its awesome

distant holly
distant holly
distant holly
mental shuttle
mental shuttle
distant holly
#

that’s banned in speedruns btw

mental shuttle
#

What about people who cant afford one???

void prawn
#

Flea juggle lowkey goated

broken plover
void prawn
#

I could never give up my child

opaque shard
#

Grimm child is technically a vessel for the nightmare heart

#

whos like 1000000000000 years old atleast 🤓

clever furnace
#

chat do you use needle strikes

#

I can't believe I haven't been spamming them before monksilly

fossil sorrel
#

is that the charge attack ?

#

i started using them q lot more when they patched that it actually gave u silk LOL

broken plover
#

These guys sound so cute it pisses me off to know they are just simple fly in your face and explode enemies

clever furnace
#

amazing wings too

fossil sorrel
#

true

opaque shard
#

They sound cute too

fossil sorrel
#

ive been told mean things about this opinion but bilewater is such a good area

void prawn
fossil sorrel
#

definitely one of my favourites

opaque shard
#

Same

clever furnace
#

bilewater sure exists

opaque shard
#

The ost goes hard 🔥

clever furnace
#

one of the consequences of the industrial revolution of all time

quiet sentinel
#

wruff

fossil sorrel
#

^^^

clever furnace
#

hello you

void prawn
#

Cogwork core and choral chambers over bilewater anyday

quiet sentinel
#

ive been stuck in my little cozy watcher thread for a whole 2 days im finally getting a breath of fresh air for a bit (silksong thread) monksilly

fossil sorrel
#

i love how the water like travels through the map

clever furnace
#

LMAO I fell off the flea juggle stage hunterkek

fossil sorrel
#

pale lake being destroyed by putrid ducts, leaking through to bilewater, then raining down on greymoor

void prawn
# fossil sorrel

Flea dodge felt like I was getting lobotomized after a minute because of how many fleas there were

#

Also I found out you can recover by accident

broken plover
#

This is the 8th layer of hell

broken plover
fossil sorrel
#

felt like i had the least amount of control

quiet sentinel
#

i want a beastfly plush

misty isle
#

Hunter crest pogo iframes my beloved ❤️

tawdry osprey
#

That thing is not cute

clever furnace
quiet sentinel
clever furnace
#

Guhhhh, you have such awesome emojis! -Seth

tawdry osprey
split sluice
#

Meter long bell beast plush saintblep

quiet sentinel
split sluice
#

Anyways I just noticed an interesting detail in bilewater

clever furnace
#

What scavclose -Seth

split sluice
#

The cages from sinner’s road are present, but usually will fall or have already fallen into the water, showing just how much worse in lore bilewater is than even sinner’s road

clever furnace
#

Oh, true!!

#

Thats a great detail -Seth

split sluice
#

I 💚 bilewater

clever furnace
#

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