#Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)
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fuck bind gimmicks
oh crap
I forgot I accepted the savage beastfly wish
so it's s.beastfly 2 time 
here I go}
nvm I got hit before they summoned anything lol
got em
oh, I forgot about the hefty price tag on the vintage nectar 
ah, I got some silkeaters I can give to skynx
nice, got enough now
gotta do the skarr gauntlet though so, wish me SKILL
silly birb! -seth
wawawa!
k I got the nectar
aight, disgraced chef lugoli time
the fan favorite 
here I got chat
gl! -seth
ok I actually lost the fractured to this idiot, but I came out on top 
nice!!!!
I'm feeling wish thicket-y right now
father of the flame time
ez
absolutely demolished it with the huge damage buff 
damn just beat Lace before even hearing the part similar to Hornet theme fully
btw for anyone trying to melt this fight: during the slash circle attack, spam needle throw and then do a run attack immediately as she lands + pogo
yummy 5 hits worth of damage
damn
I guess using this bench for warp skips Fourth Chorus?
ure hard saved when getting drifter's
so, I've heard good things about using the wish thicket route for the rasher
oh
needle throw?
you mean silkspear?
yeah
mm, am feeling... unravelled
damn almost got this fight without song looping 💔 2 seconds too slow
You almost died too
-Seth
dw about that 
fell into an open hole in terrain after striking the second orb
btw Hunter and Beast pogos give iframes apparently, pretty useful
only if you hit them though
oh I am like 7 runs in and only now noticed the Moorwing shadow moving in background in room before their arena
We noticed that on our first playthrough
-Seth
wonder if skynx has any dialogue for giving em all silkeaters
YES YES YES FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
damn why are you always so close to death
ok Sister Splinter time
🔥
im
Sobbing
okay enough Silksong for today 
Not even a minute passed 
at least I have a route that gets me there in half an hour, just a bit bigger runback than Groal
I can't remember the names of like half of the bosses
ok got em
wonder what would sherma's reaction be if you died in her rescue attempt 
She just doesnt react to that I think
getting back to the mission will give same dialogue
nono, in a meta sense
oh, Sherma would be dead
think he has no chance? you did open the exit for him at least
Fair point ig, but they are also cornered
They did prove to be a bit sneaky, if they run the moment they can, they should be able to run away also they did not attack on sight sherma so
damn, since when was grindle's shop so expensive
imma
sands of karak
to get the needle upgrade asap
rip lumble o7
that on crust khann glauntets is so awesome
delete every enemy with just your needle 
who needs tools
truth
flintslate flea brew
barbed bracelet but its a red tool where you can switch on and off to when its active
i think you should use silk for that, fire work!"!!
Sadly idk how to knit 😦
damn, wisp thicket route is really fast
wisp thicket after water shrine enters the chat
hey can you tell me why you use spool extender
nothing better for now
🥹
i see people using scuttlebrace but i never was found of it myself
i just, turned around and dashed
Its mostly for thr funnies
found that video of scuttlebrace parries and it was super epic
parry scuttle parry scuttle parry scuttle
challenge
i wonder what is a cursed build in silksong
Witches crest
:true:
red tool buffs without equipping any tools
oh damn I'm too poor LMAO
imma deliver supplies to bone bottom rq
architect crest slingshot + pollip pouch no tools
Shamans crest + pollip pouch
shaman crest + wisp lantern
chat I lost the swatch to pond skippers 

swatch 🤔
don't remember the name
something like that
swag?
got the hivesteel needle, NOW I strike really hard 
let's see how much a needle strike does now with all my buffs
handful of damage
24 * 1.65 = 39.6
rounded to nearest it becomes 40
times 2 strikes equals 80 damage 
needle strikes are so awesome
for comparison, my silkspear does 51
oh my god shaman needle strike
Ugghh I need to makes laces brain smaller for her body to carry it
i did not know needle strikes could break gurr's traps
they can? I just avoided them
they can and shaman absolutely owns that fight
The duality of skarr bosses:
you have a fight that is easily forgotten, and feels too easy for the stage of the game it’s at
and then you have:
what is commonly considered one of the top two bosses in the game, amazing music, incredible lore, and is named gurr the outcast (/silly)
In turkish we have a saying that goes like this:
"They kick the one who tells the trueth out of 9 villages"
Why would they outcast him 😢 -Seth
He was too cool
Ture... -Seth
No, i dont think ive talked to you either -Seth
Im the only straight cis one in the whole system lol -Seth
lmao must be lonely
Nah, idc
I relate more with queer people anyways with being a femboy and all -Seth
Lol than must be nice
Reaper crest is dope 
Haters are wrong
-Seth
YAY A REAPER SUPPORTER 
Different hornets based on crests
How did i never know the bonebottom people survives act 3 and settles in the area where the fleas were 
this is so cool
mantis hornet with beast crest is my favorite
It was suppose to look like herrah lol
even cooler 
Thats a thing?
Yuh
You can talk with the fixer there
Oh
Me neither lol and i've 100% the game
Same here
Also theres like two other bugs resting
They don't do or tell you much but it's cool to see them
True
Also learned that you can encounter Pebb the merchant as an enemy when you buy all her things
Yup i did not realise this at first
Is steel soul unlocked like hollow knights steel soul
I think so but you can also unlock it with a code
How do you execute said code
Also its in extras my bad
Not credits
Yup
"The surface climb is to easy. It becomes boring super fast". Less crazy challenge-runner:
https://youtu.be/AJSVHxwIHpA
This platforming section may be challenging to newer players, but personally, i found beating this with ease. So i indulged myself with not using the claw line ability, utilizing the beast crest's needle strike attack to make this more doable, although i only needed it once.
Additionally, i used the leap move where you jump off a wall by pressi...
that actually doesnt seem too bad 
Curse of no reaper crest
thats okay ill use the better crest (shaman)
All crests have been replaced with wanderer, hope this helps!

Thank you for deleting putrified ducts, it has been replaced with biler-water
Choral chambers is to be replaced with bilest-water
dies
silksong but the citadel polluted every region
Ok but genuinely an act 4 where you mainly focus on repairing and rebuilding pharloom would be cool
Purewater

I wonder how much more stuff will silksong get
Wr are getting silksong 2 tomorrow
The knight gets grimmchild, and hornet gets whatever the fuck the twisted bud is
dumb baby
I think knight has a better child
witch crest though,,,,
ok why wasn't I spamming needle strike before 
i saw like two videos of crest tierlist and one of them the creator of the video said that needle strikes suck(not entirely, feels sluggish or something)
and didn't come up to be like HK or something
not hating on them but all needle strikes are so awesome....
specially when they do 80 damage
hunter's needle strike is so useful too
weakest hunter v2 barbed wire enjoyer
finally someone who appreciates just how hard the combo hits 
barbed wire gaming feels so good but holy i get hit all the time
one day i'll be sweating silksong no hit all bosses
no shards or silk holding it back, you can do insane damage by shrimply gitting gud
and truly appreciate hunter focus
50% needle damage buff 🤤
(afaik)
65% total 
awesome
needle strike does more damage than silkspear
and still, silkspear is useful
though I did equip volt filament to bring it up a tier
godhome dlc next month
shaman crest build WITHOUT volt filament
godhome NOW
500 first sinners
let's see, 17 * 3 * 1.25 = 63.75, rounded to nearest 64
64 + 5 = 69 damage for a hivesteel volt silkspear, nice
accepts my fate
17 is hivesteel needle damage
multiplied by 3 for a silkspear
multiplied by 1.25 for volt filament buff
I wonder how godhome would look like in silksong
plus 5 for a simgle tick of electric damage
simgle
makes sense
what is the shaman multiplier again
they will make you go through a mini glauntet in coral tower before the crust king boss
its their whole thing!!
Gauntlet between each boss
bilehaven glauntet with arena modifications
then groal the greater with diff attacks
how many bosses does silksong have again
is it soemthing something 42
the runback was fun
12 wave arena
50%, adds with volt filament for 75% extra damage total
Beastfly 2 but with only 2 platform so you have to pogo
beastfly but they summon putrified ducts primal aspid wannabe
is that uhh that modded beastfly in bilehaven
yeah
good news, spit squits are deleted by hunter needle strike with focus 1 + barbed 
they shoot but no projectiles because
idk
imagine coding
vibe coding 😱
spit squit is funny name
they make me Quit when they Spit (s)
from all the tools in the game i think rosary gun should've done better
i wish you could reload the rosaries without a bench
shouldve dealt 50 damage
should have an option to when using architect up bind use one rosary string (80) to reload that outside benches
buff architect make it so tools deal more damage when using architect crest
also buff architect and make it so tools cost 50% less to repair
buff architect
buff architect AGAIN and make it even more awesome
make the pogo not ass
buff architect, 5 red slots
up and any diagonal for the foruth tool
neutral, up, down, left and right
8 red slots
left of absolute silkshot
give architect a silkskill slot and it would suck
this is what the gms crest wouldve been if team cherry wasnt evil
grandmother silk crest, attacks are now telegraphed nails
lace 2 but with troll void attacks
wall jump and double jump to heal
it doesnt inflict sadness thankfully
use silksoar in phase transition and leave void 💯
your only move is [MultiBinder Injector band]
Any tools I should change
I'm using weighted belt dice the skitter thing for my yellows
Cogflys and saws for my reds
tools is preference, i use my melee on lace 3 more than silk skills and tools
Counter for my silk skill
red tools i mean
i use my needle on any lace fight more than anything
And injecter band warding bell and multibinder
warding bell stinks
using needle only in lost sinner, phantom, lace 1 2 and 3
doing what i Said never gets you hit
🙏
It's good with multibinder since if you get hit multibinder heals 2 then 2 so you'll heal 2 if you don't get insta hit
not completely, its more of a safety net but yeah, if you know what and when to heal, you will be fine
except for that evil ass shooting attack but just dont heal then
okay but its one less blue slot which you could use for
uum
mmm
memory crystal
yeah
injector bind already removes said problem
Is there anyway to predict which of laces two counter variations is gonna happen
i'm not sure
but depending on the way shes facing
i neutral jump after triggering her parry and dash forward
I don't think so, but jumping over her avoids both
and set you up for a punish on the grounded version
i think you can still hit her in the air variant
For me normally I dash forward due to her using her air counter most of the time
Yeah while she's doing that attack if she misses you can get 2-3 hits in
always use reaper
always use [Crest of your preference]
That would be dashing backwards
i don't use scuttlebrace,,,,
Oh scuttlebrace could help actual
i wonder how does one use scuttlebrace i genuinelky
I just don't have it memorised to use in case
I use wanderers crest because I realized I only used cogflys when I used architects crest also I HATE the architects crest melee
i genuienly cant press the buttons
to do it
idk i use downward dash like, one time
in FotF
or when i'm going through a very high vertical transition and hornet falling face in looks sick
farter over the fence
Guys why are the snail shamans so evil and mean):
not so evil, shaman crest is real
Idk. Funny that they die tho
no more oooii ❤️
First of all they get mad at you when you take it second of all shaman crest sucks
Blaming us for the apocalypse they made
Spoiler):
caretaker: "hornet we beat GMS and saved the citadel!! hooray!!!"
hornet: "THERES AN ACT 3??????"
Well then again this IS the silksong discussion (soiler warning)
Well
Well
Well
Blaming us for something they made when all hornet did was get the items
Uhhhh
chill they havent experienced peak yet
imo all crests have their ups and down, and shaman is up in the high ranking for me
Literally how):
Shaman being evil architects crest is weird to me
what is your problem with shaman /lh
i could never with shaman i think my on-air bind is too good
its slash is too evil
SHAMAN REMOVES MID AIR BIND?
The nail attacks are weirdand I don't use silkskills red tools are better in every way
it shits you down for some evil reason
Also heal
ah yes, okay thats entirely fair
i NEVER used silk skills in my first playthrough and i LOVE red tools
Man I wanna do witch crest but it's act 3 so it's gonna be 8x harder
ah yes, i agree
the bind is very evil, i didn't like it at first
Same I probably should do that
i didnt even know this i never tried shaman crest actually
But I'm also skill issue
all crests can surviver in all acts imo
Good luck [REDACTED] while you're [REDACTED]
Wanderer my beloved
even when you do bind in the ground it still has delay
can NAKED crest survive act 3
Yeah it's good
i just use injector band with it and call it a day
Probably not
No.
It's EXTRA evil cursed
10 years to beat up a single voided enemy
But hey you can bind
it doesn't survive because hornet needs faydown cloak
cursed crest isn't all that bad imo
its just no tools and no bind
Ok dude what are you yapping about
ok but no bind is like such a big deal
Yeah it isn't bad you just don't have any tools and can't heal while benches are spaced 8 miles away
It's bad I think your just too good at the game
No
bind is a big deal tbh i'm not gonna say git gud
no bind would explode me but it wasnt that bad when i was doing the quest on act 3
but toolless is fine
But isnt the witch crest quest just go to shellwood to greymoor
witch crest is literally nuke with bind
If you are doing fine with stuff like that you are good
Also why would I use [INSERT NON-WANDERER CREST] when I could use wanderer crest
:3
Hunter is goated wdym
Also I have beast shaman wanderer hunter architect reaper isn't witch the last crest I need or sum
i'm REMOVING wanderer crest from the game
Nuh
now everyone has to actually play the game and LEARN the downward pogo
(which is awesome btw i love it)
Hk vets having to play with a different moveset
now everyone has to actually play the game*
Ok brb let me get reaper
NO REAPER
To be honest I found first sinner harder then gms idk if that's a popular opinion or if I'm stupid
wanderers crest mains try not to ram into every boss ever and actually learn them
ONLY WITCH HUNTER BEAST AND ARCHITECT
It's not stupid
beast downward pogo is a minor nuisance
Can confirm, I just out-DPS the boss
i took a lot of tries when i first fought first sinner
The humble skarrsinger
The only bosses I've first tried is craw father and phantom
i struggled badly with gms for some reason
the only bosses ive first tried is moss mother (1) and voltguy
i found GMS very okay since i've fought the radiance before
and the attacks are similar
in some way
the nails mostly
GMS was too weak imo
also hornet movement is so awesome
gms and the ending screamed that it wasnt the end
its just so cursed child ending didn't suck
good game design
I get it’s meant to drive you to act 3, but even then GMS should not be that weak in lore
GMS should also have silk pillars coming from the side and summon temporary silk nails that home into hornet
gms should bind
cough cough
first sinner binding was pog
(Intense yet distant weaver screaming)
i enjoy how all the weavers in the game had a fakeout death
i think its their thing™
Every one of them
GMS, Widow, First sinner, even lace (kinda) got in on the action!
I would say she and phantom are half siblings to the weavers
Same mother, but with a different outside factor
phantom is so awesome
imagine being spun from THREAD rofl:
imagine being grey with age
Phantom is cool
I really want like a ‘threadspun phantom’ type fight where we see her at her full strength
phantom was easy (not for me) because the mist was the beating
my goodness i took like 10 attempts going through it
did you know? you dont need mantis claw in order to go to phantom
helps time in speedruns.
Did you know? you actually do need cling grip to get to needolin to get to phantom
this is because it is cling grip and not mantis claw
lost seth 💔
My friend did this skip (not phantom just the cling grip skip) accidentally and fought widow
You think that weavers chase down more powerful beings to reproduce since
I heard there's only female weavers
imagine if herrah had a child with the pale king
That would be crazy
But make sense on why Hornert loves saws
oh oh
imagine if that child was trained by vespa
and was nicknamed hornet because of that
imagine imagine
That migggght explain why the third nail upgrade has hexagons
And what if hornertasr weaved her own cloak
chat how does one complete broodfeast asap
you just don't and wait for act 3
Wait till act 3 trust
we could even call it hivesteel!!
Flint architect and uhh
Are skewered organs dropping only from 2 tools
You can get them from architects I think
you can use delver's for skewred which i found very okay
Wait that may be shredded
uhh
you could get them if you got to keep the needle phial 
skewered only has 2 tools otherwise
And I meant if y'all have any area recommendations
Yeah memorium sounds good
memorium
A lot of low hp enemies and a bench nearby
Or just swap tools and play normally
hm, I was thinking of shellwood too, pond skipper spawn indefinitely
but memorium sounds good
I love memorium
DON'T
Items sink in water
don't they float for a bit before sinking
Very short time but yes
Those bugs also respawn slowly
man can wispfire lantern hit the broad side of a barn, jesus 
architect neelde strike gets shredded 
it does???
I already have all of those
Since I used architects for a while after getting it because of her death
Isn't it buffed on beta
Possibly soilers
I wish wanderer's strike got skewered
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chat opinions on longclaw
awesome tool, not entirely necessary on some crests but def mandatory (for me) in wanderer
Unnecessary
Most of silksong's crests feel like they have longnail by default
hm, there isn't really anything better to buff my needle though
Buff other things then
ehhh...
egg of flealia is like, too much even for me
not even I can keep a flawless run up for long
good i think its the best vesticrest
that or pin badge
it has bad sinergy with barbed since you may not heal completely with it more often}
act 2 still
Try other things
what other things gng
On my last non steel soul I used a lot of snitch pick
Now that I don't kill most things anyway
killing is my name with hunter barbed 
delete enemies by holding attack
You mean by repeatedly pressing attack
Holding attack does the charge attack
How much hp does lost lace have
I wanna try this method
gotta git gud for it though, it is very VERY facetank-unfriendly
No you gotta cry for barbed buff so it does +1 dmg instead of x2
HOW MUCH HP DOES LOST LACE HAVE
a handful
1 mask now deals 2
2 deals 4
3 deals 6
funny
I looked up the hp on wiki
But I'm not gonna tell you
Gr

Do you think if silksong has equivalent of radiant bosses they'll all have 25% extra hp because there's no reason to not run barbed against them
WOWZA
I mean, makes complete sense
How many appearances does Seth have?
though, you are still giving up 1 yellow slot
Radiant bosses from skong remove the floor
Yes this does it for grounded bosses
They just fall
you liked my joke? 
Pls tell me he appears more than twice
Could be relevant for some crests I guess
I think he settles in fleatopia
I don't see em there
Like running weighted belt on witch instead of barbed
Keep finding him then idk
does witch have no recoil to begin with
Witch has the potential needle strike
Is this a sign to get witch after lost lace
But it's too much work to leave the abyss rn
I wish there was a shortcut
I ain't going all the way up to the diving bell rn
There should be like a breakable wall in the right side of the abyss gated behind a large pool of void so you can only reach it on the second visit
I'm at the bench right before lost lace
damn
How come
YET SHE DOESN'T REFUSE TO FIGHT GMS?
she knows the parasite will kill them in the void I guess
something about the parasite having heavy adversion for the void
when you can take a skinny dip on it just fine with the everbloom 
idk I didn't see the dialogue
I love how 50/50 of people i know that play silksong are like "twisted bud my beloved" or "twisted bud my beloathed"
Twisted bud my thing I have no particular feelings for
"some would argue" oh fuck off hornet, just admit that your job in hallownest was stupid
Hornet does cool backflip
what is that minimap 💔
Wanderer if it was balanced
SilksongMinimapWithCocoonCompass mod
wanderer if it stink even more
I was going to say why does wanderer have 3 yellow slots but like
it's called wanderer
what am I saying
Fuck these flea mini games are so fun
would save and quitting at the start of act 3 in steel soul be cheesy?
honestly after going so far i wouldn't even care if i was cheesing it
eh... it really sucks you're put against black-threaded enemies with just 4 masks
Peak mentioned
They should've put some silk spools on the way to that arena
Or make you start with max silk so you can get 2 binds
I need a mod to remove all damage
Also the act 3 witch crest quest doesn't sound TOO bad
It's just make it to a spot in greymoor then a spot in sinners road then go back to the spot in greymoor
Act 3 witch good because tanky enemies = more heal
act 3 sucks where is my act 4
There's a mod that does that
Invinciblilty mod
Act 4 sucked so it got removed
Heals you for every frame of the game
Act 4: the fleas take over
What did they do to the flea spirit
Hornet flip
Act 5, The fleas strike back
Act 6, flea wars
Act 7: Fuck it we remade hollow Knight with the fleas
Act 8: Hungry knight but with fleas
chat, what are silk hearts
they don't look much of a heart to me
Silk hearts that don't look like hearts for Hornet that doesn't look like hornet
Makes sense to me
ok I get it, I was just curious about yours or somebody else's thought about silk hearts
I know stuff doesn't have to make sense
Is there a possible way to upgrade my needle before moorwing
Yeah, by skipping moorwing
And how is said skip executed
Okie dokie
ok why does barbed hunter do so much damage
can someone who uses witch crest tell me how you use it
it feels like im using it right but the output feels really low
NGL I think shredded would be more accurate for what it does
You're poking things to death, skewered makes the most sense to me
witch's gimmick is that the bind does damage
it has more blue slots than usual too ig, but that's about everything witch has
i know how the mechanics of it work im asking how you actually use it effectively
oh yea, needle strike is pretty decent if you can connect all of its hits
witch exists, that's as much I can give it
pretty much tailor made for an offensive bind build with claw mirrors n'stuff
Worst crest probably still beast
That's true
beast has a higher skill floor compared to most the crests but its around the same power level as hunter
also it has the best or second best pogo in the game i havent decided yet
I don't feel comfortable trading a proper bind and convenient moveset for the potential dps boost
same? I wanna see beast making gms go into her second stage while on her first stagger 
Its pogo has decent uses but it's just not a pogo
it works fine as a pogo ive gone out of my way to use it for all the parkour segments
i had like one issue in shellwood and that was it
oh yea, that one part on shellwood kek
basically, retreat from the enemy a bit before jumping back in with the pogo
So basically don't have pogo
like a fake retreat ig
No sprint pogo or clawline pogo combos
hm, I see your point
beast sucks
you can sprint pogo?
Maybe against some fatties
And even then it doesn't feel as responsive as hunter or wanderer due to pogo windup
you can do it against smalls too you just have to do the uh
you can like control the angle of it by holding movement keys idk how else to describe it
Put extra effort to make it as good as hunter
Sums up beast
I feel like I made it work as best as I could but overall it didn't feel that much better than other crests
Like it's great against 1/3 of things and bad against 1/3 of things
its like 5th above witch and reaper but below architect shaman wanderer hunter
I feel more comfortable using witch tbh
At least I'm more used to its moveset
Though witch's tradeoffs are also questionable
witch's only true build seems to be injector band + multibinder + claw mirrors 
any other blue tool build is better used with another crest
oh, vesticrest slot can be wtv
you can probably slot sawtooth circlet in there replacing multibinder if you wanted
it does 28 damage now after the patch and you can combo it out of the pogo or sprint attack decently
(multibinder is +21dmg for reference)
Oh yeah fuck witch's pogo
Sometimes the game just decides you deserve to take damage from horizontal attacks because you dared to use it
Til I learned hornet has a taunt for if you have no silk (hits the taunt pose and swings needle)
much less epic without the cost though 💔
About taunts, I forgot beast has a unique taunt
I take back anything I've said about beast
Poshanka is my favorite taunt
I decided to do the stupid and fight moorwing, garmond and zaza joined but they ain't doin shit 
lmao
why did they get the clown character treatment 
and then you're supposed to get all sentimental n'shit when fighting lost garmond like cmon I didn't feel a thing for that bozo
the song of the holy....
Discord please
I would like to watch the video
Discord please cooperate with me
White pinwheel of death my beloathed.....
sadge....
He could've tried a little harder at the conductors melody at least
Phantom feels more like mid act 1 boss
I can never go back to last judge now
why not both
Is there a mod that makes hornet as vocal as she was In the first game, im suffering from "Shaw!" And "eidno!" Withdrawal
Yes
Old hornet voice lines
Oh thank god
You can also make it randomly chose from old and new voice lines
I set the old voice line chance to I think 0.5(???)%
I know its unlikely considering that one ending, but I kinda hope godseeker returns in some way
I like bossrush modes
randi weird route
Yes same
I feel like TC didn't give them enough screen time
If you could meet them more outside of battle it would hit better
beat cogwork dancers at 4 hours mark 💔, i think i can do better, the sub 5 hours seems pretty doable 
These bozos in the wormways think they Garpedes 😂
None of them are as impactful as Sherma's tho
I disagree
He just kinda exists with a bit of storytelling in his dialogue
the route was like:
• moss mother
• silk spear and bell beast
• swift step and lace
• drifter’s cloak and fourth chorus
• flea caravan (moorwing and greymoor skip)
• needle upgrade
• cling grip
• wanderer crest
• sinner’s road
• the mist + phantom
• cogwork dancers

I did miss one encounter at the roof thing where you duel for funsies
do you think wanderer really worth it here though
I don't think it's a big time loss but I didn't bother with it
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I didn't do moorwing skip either
Were you stuck at any boss?
it also skips all greymoor
There's not a lot of greymoor before moorwing tbh
phantom only 💔. but i think i can do the fight better next time 
Not sure what took you 4 hours then
sinner’s road actually 
I finished act 1 in less than 2h and cogwork dancers are 5 mins into act 2 with phantom route
Sinner's road itself or the mist?
the sinner’s road itself, there is a room with so many enemies 
the mist was actually easier than i thought lol
third room will always have all horizontal connections be valid
and the last will have the right (if the room has only one right connection)
you can also return to the previous room and it will generate a new solution for it 
Finding the right exit is not a problem, it's wraiths
They just take a lot of time to deal with them carefully
And the terrain isn't always the best for combat
that’s also why it can be useful to use the previous room again instead, if it’s a small one
ideally, the strategy is:
- solve the first room
- solve the second room (or return to first and solve it again)
- enter any left entrance and the transition room
- solve the room
- return and exit through the right (unless the room has 2 right entrances)
you can enter the transition room through right too but then there’s a chance there won’t be a right entrance in the next room, meaning there will be an additional room
funny, but it doesn’t really feel like you’re underpowered despite ignoring most of optional stuff
.
there is only one mask upgrade in act 1, after all 
Did not know wormways was a neat shortcut to wanderers crest, I missed playing like the knight
You don't feel underpowered until the forum
trobbio, lace 2, and gms shouldn’t really be difficult.
but the forum arena 
wanderer crest worked really great at cogwork dancers lol
you can get garmond for it + cogflies
also you get access to flea brew if you move the caravan so it’s also good
and also it gets easier if you use clawline a lot
honestly i dont know how it works
theres a steam guide for the route that gets them if you check on there
cogflies should be along the way
all i can say is do moorwing instead of fleas
I think on my speedrun save the first time I met Garmond was when I went back to 100% it and he was at his duel spot
but then no flea brew 
Does flea brew even stack with wanderer
also all but 1 flea is along the way
yeah
and it increases it by more than hunter crest too
for some reason
yeah flea brew is weird
15% for hunter and witch, 25% for beast (though it gives a smaller boost while fury is active) and architect, 35% for reaper and wanderer
I didn't feel like it has any effect on beast
i only really like it on reaper to counteract the swing speed and beast to help build silk if you end up with downtime
like, why not get the caravan, if the fleas are along the path anyway 
i don’t think moorwing would be faster
I think I only got one flea and that's because I forgot where to go
off the top of my head its probably faster to do moorwing and if youre using wanderer then itd be better to just use cogflies
- near bell beast
- near bell station in deep docks
- near swift step
- far field near the vertical room
- at the entrance to hunter’s march (which is close to the location of the caravan in the marrow)
awooooo :3
awooooooo :3
Awoooooo :3
Awoooooooooooooo
that’s what fleas say
actually
at approximately what time i should be fighting widow and phantom respectively?
for the sub 5 hours achievement
I think I got to widow around 40 mins and phantom around 1 hour in my speedrun
Finishing hour was like 3h and 20 smthing mins
Ye
why this skip is so easy
fourth chorus can also be skipped but i’m gonna fight it anyway 
I also skipped lace 1 and moorwing in my speedrun lol
Get money for the simple key get all 5 grubs and immediately at greymoore
Not grubs fleas wtf
but it cost like 500 rosaries 
i think i’m gonna fight lace, but i will skip moorwing though
since i need drifter’s cloak which is faster from deep docks i think
True lol
wait where is the chest in moss grotto
Under the moss mother entrance
pretty funny how first two needle upgrades are free, but third one requires like one of the most complex quests

and i almost did it before realizing there is one oil just existing on a floor in citadel

1st upgrade: yay free nail upgrade :D
2nd upgrade: woah pale oil just sitting here!!!
3rd upgrade: go across all corners of pharloom searching for 5 different scarce ingredients to satiate the appetite of the great gourmand
4th upgrade: flea.... juggle..........
I hated flea juggle sm I just ended up using mods to help
Especially after Seth fucking WIPED the floor with me holy shit fuck you 💔
the one the flea minigame mod was made for
wait do you think extra dps from poison would worth time loss, to help with forum arena later
The hornet took me 2 hours person
I didnt get it for my speedrun (I went it with the 3rd nail upgrade)
but you can get garmounds help if you want
i feel like gourmand quest would take me like 2 hours on its own lol
probably just gonna use wanderer crest
with cogflies
or evolved hunter with cogflies and flintslate
seems like the best options
I used fleabrew (faster to get)
well, since i’m skipping moorwing it is along the way
though in this case getting poison might worth it
it adds poison effect around you
I also got 1 extra max I think
the what 
you will get exactly 30 fleas twice in a row 🫵
dies
sorry you arent allowed to die
Headcanon: hornet would be a cat person

is revolklim like a boss
Whomst
hello hunters wanderers beasts reapers architects witches and shamans
Hello soup
a what about the. slabbed
what about revolklim
^
Whos revolklim 
wait thats ur name? 
yes 🥹
yuurp
It looked like symbols so I didnt bother 
lmao

juggle of all games? 
Bruh, Flea Juggle isn't even that bad, you unlock it when you get Shaman XD
Dodge is probably worse due to RNG

For me, difficulty-wise is: Dodge > Juggle >>> Poggo
Holy shit i was reattempting moorwing and Wanderers crest carried me
Different Hornets based on crests
poggo is so easy i agree
Also garmond and Zaza still did absolutely nothing
i love it but i was about to ask where was hunter
then i realised
but very nice, its awesome
what about cursed and crestless
yeah but in steel soul it also electrocutes you too
would look similar to the character hornet from the game hollow knight
Fire...
I dont have my shock adapter plugged in
that’s banned in speedruns btw
What about people who cant afford one???
Flea juggle lowkey goated
Grimm child a lowkey better charm anyway
I could never give up my child
Grimm child is technically a vessel for the nightmare heart
whos like 1000000000000 years old atleast 🤓
chat do you use needle strikes
I can't believe I haven't been spamming them before 
is that the charge attack ?
i started using them q lot more when they patched that it actually gave u silk LOL
These guys sound so cute it pisses me off to know they are just simple fly in your face and explode enemies
amazing wings too
true
They sound cute too
ive been told mean things about this opinion but bilewater is such a good area
They're still my child
definitely one of my favourites
Same
bilewater sure exists
The ost goes hard 🔥
one of the consequences of the industrial revolution of all time
wruff
^^^
hello you
Cogwork core and choral chambers over bilewater anyday

ive been stuck in my little cozy watcher thread for a whole 2 days im finally getting a breath of fresh air for a bit (silksong thread) 
i love how the water like travels through the map
LMAO I fell off the flea juggle stage 
pale lake being destroyed by putrid ducts, leaking through to bilewater, then raining down on greymoor
ive done this
also REAL as hell
Flea dodge felt like I was getting lobotomized after a minute because of how many fleas there were
Also I found out you can recover by accident
This is the 8th layer of hell
Beat these guys and get 50 rosaries as a reward
flea dodge was definitely my least favourite of the minigames
felt like i had the least amount of control
so long as there are no minions :3

i want a beastfly plush
Funny how even this situation is savable
Hunter crest pogo iframes my beloved ❤️
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG SAME!!!!!!! -Seth
Guhhhh, you have such awesome emojis! -Seth
ugly beastfly...
Meter long bell beast plush 
thats it, banning you from my super cool thread
Anyways I just noticed an interesting detail in bilewater
What
-Seth
what 
The cages from sinner’s road are present, but usually will fall or have already fallen into the water, showing just how much worse in lore bilewater is than even sinner’s road
I 💚 bilewater
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