Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[tawdry osprey]

how much is a normal slash

max upgrade

[oak swift]

Its just a useful tool when Wanderer isnt/too dangerous to be close

[tawdry osprey]

yeah

[oak swift]

21 I think

Thats the highest

[tawdry osprey]

oh then its very nice

like i know its nice but thats more than i expected

[oak swift]

Its one and a half slashes, pretty good yeah

[clever furnace]

erm, hunter level 2 + barbed
35 damage 💰

[tawdry osprey]

isnt that fully charged

[oak swift]

Your THAT type huh?

Get away from me, freak
(/silly)

[oak swift]

Yes

[tawdry osprey]

the true no hit strat

[oak swift]

It ironically synergizes really well with each other lol

Though, sadly, still less damage compared to tool spam

[tawdry osprey]

tool spam too broken

[clever furnace]

yep, unexpected synergy
don't get hit for more damage + more damage but higher punishment for getting hit
the "just don't get hit" build

[oak swift]

I would like to talk about lore btw

What are yalls thoughts on the Cursed child ending? Imo it kinda fits with the new theory we have on the White Lady

[clever furnace]

really scary ending

[tawdry osprey]

what theory on white lady

im very unupdated on lore

[oak swift]

The theory is that the cursed child and white lady are similar/maybe the same species, but the White lady is the result of a root consuming a pale being

People suspect that the white lady ate the pale king's corpse for power, which is why they are so close to each other, the pale king gave the corpse as they were trying to become smaller for the kingdom, win win

Heavy speculation btw, prolly not true, but fun to think about

[oak swift]

There are tons

The main one is that the white lady is like the root

[tawdry osprey]

oh

hmmm that sounds interesting

[oak swift]

Im sad we dont see the child

I guess it makes sense since it lets us be creative with it, but I'd like go see it

[tawdry osprey]

silksong dlc: child update

[oak swift]

Act 4 with twisted child confirmed?!?!?

[tawdry osprey]

would be more of an alternate act 3 tho

[oak swift]

Nah, the update is that Hornet does the Lost lace fight with the twisted child

Chaos ensues

[tawdry osprey]

i find so funny the game straight up doesnt let you fight LL with the child

[clever furnace]

hm, how would a higher being greyroot look

[oak swift]

Yeah, lore wise though its interesting cause its averse to the void

[oak swift]

I suspect similar to the white lady, with its root's being a pale glow

[tawdry osprey]

silksong dlc will include fight with Found Lace

[oak swift]

Holy shit we find Lace?

News to me

[tawdry osprey]

oops sorry thats developer exclusive spoilers

[oak swift]

[tawdry osprey]

i am in fact. the Team CHerry

[oak swift]

They seem very similar in a lot of aspects

[tawdry osprey]

ig they do yes

putting it one next to the other

[oak swift]

One is obviously a pale being though

Full sillouhette of her is beautiful and shows how expansive her root system is while being binded

Please lets stop talking about it

(The person isnt a fan of the topic as well)

[mellow sigil]

those arent instincts those are reflexes😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 omfg

Im gonna burst

[sudden plover]

Oh

I just wanted to throw in my thoughts sorry

[tawdry osprey]

woah what where does this come from

[sudden plover]

Godhome I think

[oak swift]

I understand but I also dont want to cause a heated argument in here, the conversation happened and for now it has moved on

Nothing against yoy, just want to make sure it doesnt explode on our faces and we all just yell at each other

[oak swift]

Godhome, its a beautiful image, there are others for the other higher beings as well

[sudden plover]

Did it need to be deleted tho

[oak swift]

Ehh prolly not, hasty on my part

[clever furnace]

oh but I lvoe explosions

[sudden plover]

It didn't break rules or directly cause issues

[oak swift]

Late to this but

We do.

Breathing is done by instinct, as well as holding our breath underwater

Everything we know to do automatically is taught through instinct

You flinch right? That's instinct to avoid pain

You move out of the way of danger don't you? Also instinct to avoid dying

We may not live on instinct but a lot of our actions are done through instinct.

I had it saved as a just in case (As an fyi this message is from Troupe Master Grimm or as their discord id shows, ambanti)

Here, you can just post it again lol

(Or dont, prolly dont)

[sudden plover]

This is a message from me :3

[tawdry osprey]

i like it i never saw it

[oak swift]

Edited it with proper credits

[sudden plover]

I saw their response to my message is it alright if I give one last response on the topic

[oak swift]

I understand , but yeah for the reasons I've stated above, we move on

[sudden plover]

So no response?

Got it

I found I funny skong animation but idk who made it cuz it was sent to me

Does that mean I can't send it since I can't provide credit?

[oak swift]

Preferably dont send it? I am not fully caught up with how we deal with those

@unreal hedge How do we deal with those?

[clever furnace]

got swift step

[oak swift]

Wait you got wanderers before swift step?

[sudden plover]

Sad

[oak swift]

Neato

[oak swift]

I can ask the othe- oh wait Randi's here

[clever furnace]

Nice -Falena

[oak swift]

Oh wait Randi's gone

Oh wait its here!

And gone

[clever furnace]

What a rollercoaster of emotions -Falena

[oak swift]

And he-💥

[unreal hedge]

i think there's no actual rule regarding always crediting posted art, outside of art/meme channels?

[sudden plover]

Wait so what does that mean

[oak swift]

Post it then

Let us see this funny animation

[clever furnace]

yea, wanted a dps buff asap

[sudden plover]

(sorry for lack of credits it was sent to me by a friend so idk who made it)

[oak swift]

I knew the second I fought that damn boss it was gonna be memed

[sudden plover]

What did people call him?

Ass Jim?

[weary stag]

ass jim

[clever furnace]

Yessss -Falena

lace time
chat, guess how many crits do I land on lace

[oak swift]

6

[weary stag]

0

[sudden plover]

Lace

[clever furnace]

0 was the answer

[oak swift]

Damn, seems like the gamblers life aint for you

[weary stag]

squid game

[sudden plover]

Wait is the hole just a part of her mask or is it broken?

Cuz in the transformation cutscene she already has it

[clever furnace]

also got hit once, she dashed into me when I was pursuing her

[oak swift]

OH BTW, what challenge should I do for my third steel soul? I did a steel soul run with Hunters crest as practice and it went well :D

[oak swift]

ahh fair

[tawdry osprey]

beast crest

[clever furnace]

(didn't heal)

[sudden plover]

No tools

At all

And no non mandatory silk skill use

[oak swift]

Damaged yeah

Her mask got damaged either from wear and tear or from fighting against GMS

[unreal hedge]

beat the game without playing the game

[clever furnace]

no quitting unless sitting at a bench

[oak swift]

Beast crest and no tools, neato

[oak swift]

Gotcha

Beast crest as an fyi is uber broken for fights, we did damage calcs and its faster attack and more damage then wanderers base

[sudden plover]

And no Sherma

Leave him in the ward

[oak swift]

really good

[oak swift]

Didnt like em anyway

Should have died in act 3 smh smh
(JK DONT KILL ME!)

[sudden plover]

:(

[clever furnace]

k imma
hunter's march now

[oak swift]

I like Sherma, but I rarely got a chance to meet them in my first playthrough, so I wasnt that attached

[weary stag]

Randomized boss order

[sudden plover]

also no benches unless you need to save so you can close the game

[oak swift]

My friends fuckin loved them

[oak swift]

Yeah no, I like to have fun

WAIT

THERES A FUNNY THING YOU CAN DO WITH BEAST

[knotty stirrup]

You should do Pilgrimage.

[oak swift]

Your crest already only gives one mask of health back, you can overdose and healing will be the same

[sudden plover]

This is silksong not rw

Shoo

You're in the wrong area, pal

[oak swift]

Already did it sprinkles, isnt Fenton your friend or something

[oak swift]

This means you cant bench...ever though

[clever furnace]

what is steel soul's challenge if you can retreat to bench when you would've died otherwise

[oak swift]

Oh true true

[sudden plover]

So you WILL do my challenge after all!

[oak swift]

I should also only play with one hand

[oak swift]

Im not gonna cheese with the overdose mechanic

[clever furnace]

You can take a pilgramige to the citadel -Falean

[oak swift]

I didnt for my first completed steel soul, wont for my third

[sudden plover]

Is sprinkles trans since she has a trans flag in her pfp?

Or is it just support

[oak swift]

Sprinkles is trans, an ally, whatever you believe they are

[clever furnace]

yes sprinkles is canonically a transfem

[tawdry osprey]

the game is about that

[oak swift]

Wait when was this cannon? I am not caught up

Must've been the third season

I havent watched it fully

[sudden plover]

They should make wiki pages for the server bots

[oak swift]

Holy shit real? I see

[sudden plover]

So I can learn about them

[oak swift]

They should make it so half the Wiki talks about Inv

and only Inv

And then the server only talks about Inv

and then the devs only make Inv content

I think I like Inv

[unreal hedge]

(the story is that Animoso's original submission used "he" for Sprinkles
and when turned into a bot, the democratically elected pronouns were she/they/it, hence transgender)

[clever furnace]

Inv is fart :P -Falena

[oak swift]

[oak swift]

[weary stag]

horse Wikipedia page

[clever furnace]

g

[oak swift]

Horses are not allowed in the server nor in the wikis, any and all horse content is illegal, as instated now

🐴

[clever furnace]

/pos

[unreal hedge]

horses aren't real

[oak swift]

Oh shit I accidently posted horse conte-💥

[weary stag]

what about mules

[sudden plover]

Life goals

[oak swift]

They are half illegal

[clever furnace]

oh, so you can flying enemy pogo skip to this mask shard nice

[oak swift]

I love seeing Sheo and Nailmaster making dolls action figures and just loving each others presence

[sudden plover]

He seems so much happier with sheo

[oak swift]

You can skip a lot of things

Did you know you can skip bell beast? You can literally soft lock yourself if you dont get wall climb, skip bell beast, then get forced into the slab

[sudden plover]

Imprisoned%

[clever furnace]

Gays! -Falena

[oak swift]

He really does

He made the nail as an extension of itself, when it could not be perfected, he believed his life was fulfilled, but when he found Sheo he found new meaning :D

The pinmaster is amazing cause hes the opposite, he sees it as an art, so he sees it as a fun project to maintain such a great weapon!

[weary stag]

I might do a randomized boss order run and just hope I get something possible

[oak swift]

The nailmaster's entierly existence is the art, they took a shallow piece of nothing and created perfection

The pinmaster loves the art and maintained a great tool and made it better, love the symbolism!

[sudden plover]

What if they make this into an ending and the cutscene shows hornet walking around the slab before sitting at a bench and fade to black

[clever furnace]

my favorite skip is to get to the hunter's march treasury by enemy pogo
the 360-380 rosary reward is very fat for early game

[sudden plover]

I almost asked "isn't pin master a woman?"

I was thinking of pinstress

I am dumb

[clever furnace]

yea I was thinking of pinstress too

[oak swift]

Ending, Hornet is the new fly boss, becoming the boss you fight in the alternate game TC makes in 12 years, Pablo

[clever furnace]

chat, how many crits do I land on the skarrgard

[sudden plover]

1

[oak swift]

1

[sudden plover]

Nah

Hornet just sits there

It fades to black

Fades back to just hornets cloak and mask

Roll credits

[clever furnace]

I landed four (4) ‼️

[split sluice]

Crits are probably the part of wanderer crest I care about the least

[oak swift]

Since she is a pale being she doesnt need to eat at all

She literally just stays there for eternity

[oak swift]

Its only 2% too, its very weird

[sudden plover]

That's much worse lol

[split sluice]

Yeah that’s the reason I don’t really care about them

[clever furnace]

can anyone calculate how much does crits affect your dps

[oak swift]

It would have been better if it was earned imo

[sudden plover]

Iirc it's x3 per crit

[oak swift]

By 2% or something close to that

[tawdry osprey]

what 🥹

[split sluice]

Maybe after a successful silk skill?

[oak swift]

Oh wait it increases it by 4%

[sudden plover]

But it's rare so prolly not much

[clever furnace]

best crest 🔥

[split sluice]

That way wanderer crest is even more op

[oak swift]

Nonsense, Wanderes just need a liiiiitttle bit more dps

Come on, just give me more!

MORE!

[split sluice]

The solution is m1

[oak swift]

You heard me! My goal has been clear from the start

Infect the whole server with Inv! To make everyone talk about Inv!

[tawdry osprey]

[oak swift]

Slowly I have been in the sidelines, but thanks to my efforts, at least a quarter of the staff are Inv sympathizers! We are growing stronger!
(/silly ofc)

[split sluice]

In all honesty i think wanderer crest is essentially the needle focused equivalent to architect

[oak swift]

Pyro personified

[split sluice]

Both are extremely effective when played properly

[clever furnace]

chat it's hunter's march arena time, surely I don't lose steel soul to this

[tawdry osprey]

surely

[oak swift]

3 minutes later:

[tawdry osprey]

nah i trust

[sudden plover]

Inv is now banned

[clever furnace]

done

[sudden plover]

Did Shakra help I heard Shakra can help that one

[split sluice]

On my first playthrough I didn’t start heavily using wanderer until I got longclaw

What a fool I was

[clever furnace]

What is longclaw again -Falena

[tawdry osprey]

on my first playthough i used wanderer for 1 minute and never used it again

[sudden plover]

Longnail but skong i think

[oak swift]

[oak swift]

Random chance Im fairly certain

Thats how High halls work

[clever furnace]

Wait what?!?!?!?
HOW DO YOU GET IT -Falena

[oak swift]

Its usefulness and values varies between crests, strongest on wanderer with a 30% increase in range

[oak swift]

Wish in Putrified ducts, talk with the huntress

[clever furnace]

Ohhhhhh

Nice -Falena

[oak swift]

If you are in act 3, talk to one of her kids in the same place

[clever furnace]

Oky

skarrgard + spear skarr time

k got em

[tawdry osprey]

i never dpubted you

[oak swift]

That gay couple literally had no chance against the homophobic hornet

I still find it so funny how one of the few genuine wrong things Hornet has done was to kill the Green Prince, its so tragic

[tawdry osprey]

we literally free him to access extra content and then murder him

like wtf

[oak swift]

He was just a grieving man who lost his husband and is taking time to think about it

He literally tells you THREE TIMES he wants his own personal space in the time being

Its like going to a Widows home and them stabbing them 28 times, like qhar?!?!

[tawdry osprey]

lol literally

poor green prince didnt deserve any of this

[oak swift]

AND THEN HORNET JUST HAS HIS HEART AS A COLLECTION!

[tawdry osprey]

LOL TRUE

[opaque shard]

Hornet is homophobic

[tawdry osprey]

DIDNT EVEN NEED IT

JUST DISPLAYS THE HEART

[oak swift]

I will say, for my Steel Soul run I made sure the heart in my collection was Skarrsinger's heart, because her fight is my complete fav

Still, I literally didnt need to kill karmelita OR Green Prince

[clever furnace]

now that you put it that way, the heart on display is seriously messed up

[tawdry osprey]

yes wow

[oak swift]

It just beats as she sleeps

Its her white noise smh smh

[tawdry osprey]

still the ones you are intended to get are the other ones so the green prince was never necesarry and could be the "canon" display heart

[opaque shard]

You can also play the whiteward cylinder as she sleep 😉

[oak swift]

That is fair

Karmelita wanted to die, so its slightly less screwed up

But even then, Green Prince dying is just screwed up no matter what

The canon in game is whatever happens in your save until a sequel is made imo

[tawdry osprey]

yeah but still its so messed up

what is hornet doing

[oak swift]

Yeah, it really is

I guess she goes by the philosophy of killing the few to save the many

[oak swift]

OH MY GOD, I JUST REMEMBERED

If you kill Karmelita after getting the everbloom, you still have the dialogue with GIllie saying "This was necessary to save the world, I had to do this terrible act"

NO YOU DIDNT HORNET, YOU ARE PUTTING IT ON YOUR SHELF

[tawdry osprey]

MKLSDDSJKLDS

THATS SO TRUE

hprnet straight up LYING

[oak swift]

IT HAPPENED WITH MY STEEL SOUL SAVE LOL

I WAS FUCKING FLABBERGASTED

I had to do it for Steel Heart, but Hornet literally did NOT need to do it lore wise LOL

[oak swift]

She forgets to mention that "This was necessary to save the world" just meant she needed the heart for her vibe collection, which is her world

[clever furnace]

oh well, karmelita was already on death row when we find her

[opaque shard]

I mean shes like 1000000 years old

[tawdry osprey]

needs the entire collection or she dies, good one hornet🥹

[oak swift]

Yeah but its still really funny

Wasnt necessary, but still happened and was willing to kill

[opaque shard]

Also you could say that green prince was a mercy kill in a way ig

[oak swift]

Karmelita would have probably preferred to die in her prime, Hornet gave her just that, doesnt change that she could have just let her live

[opaque shard]

he lost his kingdom and lover so there was nothing left for him

Maybe theyre lesbianing in the bug heaven lol

[oak swift]

I understand, but still, he had his own life, that is still enough to rebuild something or make anew

He was grieving, but he didnt want to die, we dont get to determine that for him, but we did it anyway

[clever furnace]

there's always more road to travel
we just kill prince with all of his grief taken to the grave

[oak swift]

A person can lose everything and they can still rebuild and become anew, which is why his death is considered wrong by my and many other peoples standards

[clever furnace]

did someone say disposable thumbs

[opaque shard]

Nailsmith also asks for death after making the pure nail maybe the philosophy of hallownest is just fucked up lol

[clever furnace]

two hours ago

[digital robin]

I found a really interesting account in steam. It has 9 positive reviews (1 phrase long saying something along the lines of "good game") and then 1 negative review (Silksong). That one being a giant wall of text that can't even be screenshot due to how long it is

[oak swift]

DONT DISPOSE YOUR THUMBS

[oak swift]

Yeah, thats expected from negative reviews, they usually have a lot more to say lol

[clever furnace]

this reminds me of the absolute no-lifer that is Obey The Fist

fuck that guy

[opaque shard]

The hornet took me 2 hours guy

[digital robin]

In case someone is curious

[clever furnace]

no that's the different one

[opaque shard]

Thats what society wants you to think

[unreal hedge]

you can get everbloom without Karmelita?

[clever furnace]

Oh thats not too bad
Realizes i can scroll right 😨 -Falena

[tawdry osprey]

HOW MUCH TEXT IS THIS

[oak swift]

Yes, skip Karmelit and use Green prince's heart instead, it still counts

[oak swift]

Once you get the Everbloom, you can fight Karmelita and her heart will be on the shelf instead of Green Princes

Its what i did for my Steel Soul save

gimme a sec lemme send a screenshot of it on the shelf, it actually really fits with the vibe :D

[digital robin]

Green Prince is probably easier and can be used to skip 1 heart

[oak swift]

I would have done it to replace The Coral King because of how long the arena fight is

Verdania is technically longer, but its less of a damn headache

[clever furnace]

Coral Castle Gauntlet is so fun though -Falena

[digital robin]

Their first review on contrast is "MMMHMMM (Upvoted TF2 review)"

[oak swift]

People skip The Pollen heart with it because Seth can actually kill you in Steel Soul, but I practiced his fight a shit ton so I was able to do it

[digital robin]

So seeing the contrast was wild

[clever furnace]

[opaque shard]

Do they a review on hk?

[digital robin]

Naaa

[oak swift]

Its long and dying makes you do it all over again if you dont beat the third arena, its good for lore and setting but I found it too frustrating and long

[digital robin]

TF2, Civ 5, Isaac Rebirth, Terraria, Undertale, Factorio, Library of Ruina, Limbus Company, Picayne Dreans, Silksong

[oak swift]

@unreal hedge Karmelita's heart in the bell hart is such a vibe

[clever furnace]

I find the length great
And also it does sound a little silly that you are complaning about having to restart it when you are playing steel soul
Its like nothing compared to a permadeath -Falena

[vocal canyon]

Read it, pretty fair review. I like the point that this game only had 8 playtester, they should have had way way more

[void prawn]

You can store the hearts in your house?

I'm assuming only one since you can get four and have to use 3

[oak swift]

Only the fourth one

[void prawn]

I can't choose which one to keep

[oak swift]

You have to do it after you turn the first three you dont want to have in your house turned into the everbloom

Once you do that, any heart can be kept

[digital robin]

And it autoselect Green if you have the 4 when meeting the snails

[oak swift]

I did the heart of the boss I liked the most, Karmelita

[void prawn]

Hmmmm

Im thinking khann or clover dancers

[vocal canyon]

Yeah, need to give 3 hearts then go for the 4th one, which will act as memento. Otherwise it will default to conjoined heart as memento

[clever furnace]

hm the flea caravan is honestly pretty useless as skip method
I got the fifth flea on the middle of far fields, and at that point I can just keep going for drifter's

after drifter's, I can just go up greymoor

[oak swift]

Its meant to be a funny skip method, its not really meant to be a good one

[digital robin]

The real skip method is Wormways after Dash

[tawdry osprey]

isnt it just a "i dont want to see moorwing" method

[void prawn]

I beat all flea minigames sensiboooo

[opaque shard]

In my speedrun I grinded for the simple key got the one in wormways and skipped lace and moorwing

[digital robin]

Which is easy if you farm a bit in deep docks

and Skips Lace (gets you the secret dialogue), Corus and Morwing

Why 🐌 ?

[void prawn]

Lace 2 skip when

[digital robin]

I mentioned the REAL method outside caravan XD

[oak swift]

Lost lace skip when?

[void prawn]

Game skip when

[digital robin]

Act2%

[oak swift]

Clearly they know an even faster method

[void prawn]

What if I randomly say a boss using symbols instead of letters then like

Act like you know what I said

[digital robin]

Me after doing ACE to teleport into Mother Silk 🗿 🚬

[tawdry osprey]

silksong speedruns in 2026 will include doing arbitrary code execution in the moss mother fight and rolling credits

[oak swift]

Pay me

[void prawn]

No I'M gonna act like you know what I said

[oak swift]

So dev tools in rw?

[tawdry osprey]

ok theres actually no way you thought about ACE too

[oak swift]

Oh wait this isnt a rw server people wont know that

[vocal canyon]

I mean, they kinda do already? As in glitched speedruns

[void prawn]

I HATE 0-"3 _5-( like

[digital robin]

Correct. YOU COPIED ME! You are a copy CAT

[void prawn]

That boss was do annoying

So

[oak swift]

Ok, gonna go drive my bike to get home, fun talkin with yall! Cya!!

[tawdry osprey]

BUT BUT my idea was writen at the same time as yours im not a <@&1249103251920392254> !!!

[void prawn]

0-"3 _5-( felt like a filler boss before #"9,34 dancers

[mellow sigil]

I want to make a male weaver oc but they're gonna be male because they're TRANS RAAAHHHHH

[vocal canyon]

That's just hunter from Hollow knight

[mellow sigil]

ouh weavers being all-female technically usnt a skong spoiler right ......

[mellow sigil]

really?!??! what?!??

[hardy jolt]

nah

also you ndont needa spoil stuff here anymore

[vocal canyon]

Oh I'm just joking. He just has similar eyes

[mellow sigil]

why would you do this to me

[mellow sigil]

nah I just accidentally send that same message to spoiler genderal and was confused why didnt anyone deleted it haha

[hardy jolt]

oh

[vocal canyon]

We are free

Spoilers forever

[clever furnace]

love those covetous pilgrims
rosary piñatas

chat how many crits on sister splinter

0 lol

[vocal canyon]

Another steel soul attempt?

[clever furnace]

yea

lost to sister splinter last time
her minions are really annoying

hm, turns out you can simply bait their attack for a easy opening

[barren ingot]

The Strat™ imo is to save up your silk skills for them to appear, and then quickly kill em in one go using one

the silk storm ability is probably the best to use there

[clever furnace]

chat it's widow time

how many crits
and hit taken

[tawdry osprey]

3 crits 2 hits

Because you are the best and will kill her easily

[clever furnace]

2 crits
3 hits, one for double damage

[tawdry osprey]

Oh come on

I just had to change the numbers

[clever furnace]

[tawdry osprey]

That counts

You have to count that one

[clever furnace]

ye you win this one

[tawdry osprey]

[oak swift]

Hunter prolly wasnt a weaver, prolly a wolf spider cause no silk and focus on hunting

[oak swift]

Its prolly not a weaver, but its a male spider

[clever furnace]

double moss mother time

one hit

deleted the first mother before she could summon the second

skull tyrant time

if first hollow knight was about the harm of child neglect, and silksong is anti religion, which other problem will TC make a game about

ez no hit

[void prawn]

Why does google give you the reaper crest down slash

[clever furnace]

fourth chorus time

[mellow sigil]

how many steel soul attempts did you had already:000

[clever furnace]

not that many

anyway done

[mellow sigil]

awh

[clever furnace]

i love the way Sherma says raventa near the bone gate

[void prawn]

First sinner shakra garmond(act 2) and all dream bosses don't kill so that's why they're goated for skong

And steel soul

[clever furnace]

to be fair, it's impossible to lose to Garmond

beast time

not a bad s.beastfly ig

[oak swift]

Got my stuff done on the sixth try

[hardy jolt]

say that again..

[oak swift]

[clever furnace]

thanks automod

anyway the question still stands, what you y'all think

[clever furnace]

What is skynx? -falena

[wide ledge]

styx's KILLER

💔

[clever furnace]

styx's replacement npc on steel soul
silk eaters' fuction is useless, so you can give them to skynx for rosaries

[clever furnace]

I think the buzzword was husk lol

[hardy jolt]

probably different

[mellow sigil]

what in the world is a spoiler in this

[wide ledge]

El servidor ha bloqueado este contenido

[hardy jolt]

ive heard that the dead body is just shedded skin but like i doubt that and if you go above to their masks none are replaced or gone which like it makes sense if they just didnt include that detail but its still worth considering

[tawdry osprey]

spanish jumpscare

[clever furnace]

Ooh cool! -Falena

[clever furnace]

yea I'm not american, crazy right?
greetings from Chile

[mellow sigil]

whaattttt?!?????! non-american things exist??!??!!??

/silly

[split sluice]

Yes, finland is real, I learned this from ultrakill

[mellow sigil]

rain world teached me about new york

im glad rw invented new york subway

[clever furnace]

Silksong taught me life in australia is hard

a shame that focus doesn't increase skill damage

it makes it so the skill does less damage overall than to keep slashing

for example, with focus I can kill some dudes in just 3 hits
but a silk spear doesn't kill them outright

as an example right now, my sharpened needle does 11 damage when focused
but silkspear still does 27
silkspear does 27 / 11 = 2.4545x needle damage when focused

[mellow sigil]

what is focus again I completely forgor

[clever furnace]

if I were to equip barbed, the problem becomes larger
I'd do 14 damage but silkspear does 27
27 / 14 = ~1.9286x needle damage

@mellow sigil when upgraded, hunter gets a new mechanic called focus
land 6 hits without getting hit yourself and get your needle damage increased by 25%

[mellow sigil]

ooooohh:0 didnt know about it

so its kinda forced on you (since you get it from not getting hit simply) but it also decreases skill dmg???

[clever furnace]

it doesn't decrease it, rather, it doesn't increase it together with needle damage
so, when focused, silk skills lose value over slashes

[mellow sigil]

awh

[clever furnace]

but that's just a nitpick at the end of the day
the extra silk from not binding has to go somewhere so might as well use skills

[broken plover]

[clever furnace]

oh my god

sands of karak + putrified ducts

great conchflies time

done

Wawawa -Falena

Good job!

last judge time

OOH!!!!!!!
Good luck! -Falena

beat her, but imma retry because it was not that good

Retry? -Falena

yea, quit without saving

Okay then?

Why? -Falena

too many hits
want to show myself I can kill her without having to heal so much

Okay then

Gl!

[full vale]

now that i got the beast crest

im gonna use it from now on until i get witch's

[clever furnace]

bilewater time

bilewater done

damn, needle strikes are quite effective against wraiths

anyway mist done

ez

didn't remember phantom being so slow 😪

[split sluice]

They are pretty slow all things considered

But it’s still an incredible fight

[clever furnace]

ye, it's fun to revisit

[broken plover]

Stuck in Deep docks, Any idea where to go?

[clever furnace]

I just noticed, the second skull tyrant has a cracked skull
that makes me wonder, maybe this skull tyrant picked up the skull from the first tyrant

[clever furnace]

do you have swift step

also be warned that this chat is full spoilers

[icy basin]

||you should go to the citadel||

[broken plover]

I think I missed that, Also im fine with spoilers

[icy basin]

ok ||lace is actually ness||

[opal totem]

True

Did you know that Nuu is Unn

[clever furnace]

cogwork dancers time

that actually got pretty close, lost the fractured mask

[clever furnace]

imma get some sharpening asap

[icy basin]

true

wait no i see the resemblance

[icy basin]

damn gl, the last phase is tough

[clever furnace]

psa, don't try to hit lampbearer projectiles

[split sluice]

I just had a random thought of the four memory bosses:
each one of them tests an ‘aspect’ of silksong

[icy basin]

huh

[icy basin]

true, gauntlet exploration boss fight and uhh flowers?

[opal totem]

The lack of floor

[icy basin]

the markoth treatment

[split sluice]

Karmelita tests the boss fight aspect, Khann/Coral tower tests normal enemy combat, Nyleth tests platforming, and Clover dancers/Lost verdania test exploration

[icy basin]

cant really tes platforming when there's no platforms

its more like just ing

[opal totem]

Walling

[icy basin]

also spoilers lol

[split sluice]

Path of pain in question:

[opal totem]

There are no spoilers

[clever furnace]

yes, spoilers

[split sluice]

It’s permitted to yap full spoilers here

[clever furnace]

yea

[icy basin]

o ok ig the spoiler tag everything era's over now

[split sluice]

Just for here

[icy basin]

ok

[opal totem]

I think that's why they removed coral area, just so we don't have two hearts be about exploring

[icy basin]

lace dies in endgame

[clever furnace]

level 2 needle yey

[icy basin]

nop cuz they need dlc ideas

[icy basin]

yayyy

[opal totem]

There's no coral area dlc

[split sluice]

I still really want coral gorge to be a full area

[icy basin]

yet

[opal totem]

Never

[icy basin]

or will it? (vsauce music plays)

[opal totem]

I wouldn't mind it if it was a part of the main map but as a memory it doesn't seem that fun

Verdania already feels a bit meh because how isolated from the rest of the game it is

[split sluice]

I think the way I would want it executed would be that, while still a memory, there would be benches (obviously), an obtainable map, and specific points in the memory that correlate to actual points in sands of karak/blasted steps that you can use the needolin to exit the memory from (also granting memory re-entry points when you go to one of those places in the ‘current’ world)

[opal totem]

I want snail village

Or at least I want to know the reason why it was scrapped

[clever furnace]

trobbio time
surely I don't fumble this boss

ok... I didn't die ig

didn't lose the fractured either so, I guess it was good enough

lmao

damn, he ignores the needolin

ok enough fooling with this guy

clawline aquired

adquired

[void prawn]

SHRINE GUARDIAN SETH MADE ME FEEL THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW I COULD

[clever furnace]

fuck that guy

[void prawn]

Who Seth?

[broken plover]

Do you get any rewards for saving the fleas like in hollow knight with the grubs

[wise monolith]

yes

though at a way slower pace

[broken plover]

Im assuming mostly rosaries? Or different stuff

[wise monolith]

different stuff

[split sluice]

The reward is saving the fleas

[wide ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395918127811788963/1420189179802816602/morgan-freeman-true-ezgif.com-resize.gif

we all love fleas

[opal totem]

Steelsouling time

Doing all the prep to die to the beastfly

[clever furnace]

oh, garmond wants to duel

[broken plover]

I am so glad (assuming its the first) ||lace only does 1 mask of damage (except that flurry rush attack, screw that attack)||

[opal totem]

Wait until she learns to do 3 masks of damage in a single attack

[clever furnace]

wonder if it's intended for garmond and zaza to be a pathetic boss

[broken plover]

Oh fuck

[opal totem]

Tbh he feels more like a regular enemy

[wide ledge]

not like they're the most serious characters

[clever furnace]

damn, I never though needle strike was this strong

with hunter and barbed, needle strikes become a pocket instakill on demand

[opal totem]

Steel soul barbed, what could go wrong

[clever furnace]

almost lost a few times, but it's been going well

only one color is correct, obviously

k time to get cursed for the fun

[wide ledge]

purple of course

[clever furnace]

omg curse swings soooo slow

[opal totem]

Is memorium soundtrack not in the ost

[clever furnace]

witch obtained

[void prawn]

How does one choose which heart to display

[opal totem]

You save it for last

For after you spend 3 other hearts

[void prawn]

Do I choose which three hearts to use

[opal totem]

No

[void prawn]

Sad

Nyleth I guess

[opal totem]

If you have 4 conjoined is left out, otherwise whichever 3 you have

[void prawn]

I have four

[clever furnace]

left hornet sleeping at her shiny steel painted bellhome deserved after a long barbed steel souling session

[void prawn]

If I had known I wouldve done khann last after I turned in the other 3

[opal totem]

True

Crusted heart best heart

[void prawn]

Coral tower so good I made a language and a culture for an underwater species after beating it

Hearts turned in

[broken plover]

Why do hollow knight+ silksong bosses have a trend of naming a boss "Lost larry" and making it 10x more threatening
(Lost kin was kind of a joke though)

[void prawn]

Any secrets in red memory I should know

[opal totem]

They're secrets, you shouldn't know them

[void prawn]

Gr

THE

THE ELEV

AHH

I couldn't get a screen recording of the hive queen and hornet

Sad

[clever furnace]

may be worth a look around

[void prawn]

Cuz idk if I can go there again and miss a memory locket or sum

[clever furnace]

I'd say no, but I remember I didn't try to silk soar after reliving a memory

[opal totem]

I don't think there are any secrets

It's just a linear story sequence

[void prawn]

Well there's prob not a ceiling

[clever furnace]

nah, I don't think there's any object of value in there, it's a story sequence
there may be some lore or smth?

[void prawn]

Yeah but then what's mossbag for

How I feel potentially spoiling everything to a guy who didn't know act 3 exists

[opal totem]

Bruh barnak ate my pimpillo

Can't have shit in putrified ducts

[clever furnace]

they also eat voltvessels

[opal totem]

And cogflies

[clever furnace]

and cogflies
I think they die if the cogfly's poisoned though

[opal totem]

The take poison damage, don't think it kills them

Pimpillo does

Oh huh, if you win the gamble against Lumble he survives

[clever furnace]

he does? I thought the died on the way in blasted steps

[opal totem]

Well maybe he did

[clever furnace]

on that wall climb tunnel towards last judge

[opal totem]

But he didn't die at his gambling spot, that's an improvement

[clever furnace]

I could swear that corpse looked like lumble

[opal totem]

Eh most pilgrims look the same

[clever furnace]

thing is, it isn't there usually

[opal totem]

When he gives you the dice he says something about being lucky with the pilgrimage, I'd like to think it means he'll succeed

But maybe not, haven't seen that corpse

Might check it after I'm done with SoK

Also I was told Lumble has 40 rosaries and you have to win it all before he gives you dice, he gave up after losing just 12

[clever furnace]

yea I read that on the wiki

seems to be false

[opal totem]

Maybe he loses some in act 2

[clever furnace]

nah it was less than 40 on act 1

[broken plover]

I think went to far I dont want to fight this 4 armed metal bug wtf oh god holy shit fuck fuck fuck no please im so young I have so much to live for oh my god

Forth chorus my beloathed.....

Nvm this dumb robots moves predictable as fuck 🤣

[dense wasp]

seekers soul + first sinner with no faydown

[opal totem]

Savage beastfly is approaching

Maybe I should just die to it now to not waste time

[clever furnace]

i'm probably weeks behind everyone from not playing but i just have steel soul left now

any% steel soul seems fun but 100% seems so tedious so idk when i'll start

[opal totem]

It's not much different from the regular 100%

[clever furnace]

i just find a lot of the 100% progression to be annoying compared to the original and repeatedly needing to do it on every attempt would suck, for example the like 10 quests that are basically just "kill x amount of this enemy"

[opal totem]

Iirc most if not all of those are skippable

And even if not you complete them by just playing the game normally

Except the broodfeast one

[dense wasp]

important tech

by doing all of memorium without faydown cloak (requires 3 beast momentum skips and a damage boost) you can make mount fay slightly shorter

[opal totem]

I survived beastfly

The run lives

[clever furnace]

for beastfly 2 i just try to immediately kill the summons with silkspear

[hardy jolt]

WOAH

THATS SO AWESOME

oh yeah its actually accessible pretty early too since you can skip wings by pogoing on the guy to get up to memorium

[dense wasp]

you just do beast momentum skips

[hardy jolt]

that works too

[little ferry]

Its like spell pogo 🥹

[dense wasp]

also this application of voltvessels + drill isnt relevant its just something neat

[mental shuttle]

The hive irl

Bees

[dense wasp]

the really notable thing is you can get to putrified without faydown

[opal totem]

I hate bees they broke my mask

[mental shuttle]

Wuh

[hardy jolt]

wait can you also get the snare setter

act 3 wingless?

[dense wasp]

act 3 without faydown would be possible if it wasnt for the fact its hard coded to require it

[hardy jolt]

oh :<

[dense wasp]

but you can meet all the requirements to do so

[mental shuttle]

Fartdown cloak...

[dense wasp]

but i believe that you can do everything that requires faydown pre act 3 without it

well

[mental shuttle]

Mount fay is like
Evil celeste...

[dense wasp]

theres some stuff in mount fay that isnt possible and bilewater might have some stuff that isnt

[little ferry]

The hk down spell

[dense wasp]

but excluding those two everything is possible to obtain to my knowledge

[little ferry]

Nah celeste is more evil

[dense wasp]

the voltvessel drill skip might also let you reach the act 3 part of far fields early though id have to try it

[hardy jolt]

i think its way too high up

[dense wasp]

its possible with faydown and scuttlebrace so its almost certainly possible

randomizers are going to be absurd i am not excited for the seed where you have to do fay without clawline

[hardy jolt]

im actually so excited for silksong randomizers tbh

[dense wasp]

oh and wisp thicket ofc since theres an invisible wall if you dont have faydown

[dense wasp]

the current skips seem pretty accessible outside of some scuttlebrace stuff which im happy about

[hardy jolt]

whats the scuttlebrace movement tech?

[dense wasp]

ofc we havent had much time yet but theres probably not anything like shriek pogos

[dense wasp]

idk how it works but it lets you get up walls that you otherwise couldnt (like the way to shaman crest and the way to act 3 far fields)

[hardy jolt]

oooh

[opal totem]

It's getting fixed I think

[dense wasp]

it is

i should probably start playing on the beta i want to test how good wispfire is now

it went from 10 to 17 damage which is big

[opal totem]

Oh

[dense wasp]

these let you get to grindles shop and jim in act 1 btw

beast crest is just the goat i fear

[opal totem]

If only it was as good for normal gameplay

[dense wasp]

it is

it shreds bosses especially if they have a dash towards you

savage beastfly 2 with it was pretty easy because you can just pogo through their dash and take no damage

and also the pogo is just good in general

[hardy jolt]

i thought you were a beast crest supporter

[opal totem]

It's one of the useable crests ever

[hardy jolt]

😭

[dense wasp]

i think its 5th in the ranking above witch and reaper

[opal totem]

I don't know what kind of skill it requires to shred bosses but it doesn't seem to be worth it

[dense wasp]

i dont think its that hard you just have to learn to control the pogo and thats the main learning curve

[opal totem]

Anything with small hitbox and/or short damage windows I struggled with as beast

[opal totem]

Pogo is least of my issues with it

Though I do miss sprint+pogo combo

[dense wasp]

sprint + neutral (+neutral sometimes) combo exists

[opal totem]

Also not a big fan of those leaps on sprint and strike attacks but that's something you can get used to I guess

[dense wasp]

i can tolerate the charge attack being bad because it lets me do skips

i barely use it in combat though

[opal totem]

Skips aren't real so I can barely tolerate it

[clever furnace]

when i get to practicing the bosses for steel soul i might just stick with hunter's crest for all of them

[dense wasp]

what did you have in your vesticrest

[opal totem]

Injector band always

[dense wasp]

if you want an easier steel soul id recommend architect

[opal totem]

I wanted to try druid eyes but

[dense wasp]

tacks + curveclaw + cogfly kills most things very fast

theres also plasmium overdose but i dont like that so i havent used it personally

[opal totem]

I still need to try druid's eyes on wanderer

[dense wasp]

i dont get the druids eyes hype

[opal totem]

What hype

[dense wasp]

i find it really bad but people seem to think its really good

[opal totem]

I don't think there are many people who really think that

[dense wasp]

most people ive talked to have said that

[opal totem]

It's just something to help making facetanking builds work

[clever furnace]

also have to stop myself from instinctively wanting to check every corner even if i know there's nothing good

[dense wasp]

idk i just find most of the healing/defense tools pretty underwhelming outside of mask and when used on witch

[opal totem]

I don't think they're underwhelming but I don't feel like I need them either

Except injector band

Which I also don't really need but faster heal just feels nice

Meanwhile in steel soul not a single offensive blue tool ever gets equipped

[hardy jolt]

1 extra silk per getting hit is quite alot and builds up fast

its really nice to have

druid eyes my beloved

[opal totem]

What if I don't get hit

[hardy jolt]

then um... dont use it i guess

[opal totem]

Also 0.5 silk per hit until mid game

[hardy jolt]

you can get it like the moment you get into the citadel

[opal totem]

I can't get it until post mount fay

[hardy jolt]

you can pogo off the guy to get into memorium

[opal totem]

Skips aren't real

[hardy jolt]

🥹

either way its still good even if you get late

[opal totem]

Oh and it gets even worse in act 3

[hardy jolt]

not really

[dense wasp]

maybe im just biased but it feels bad when it has a higher cost than grubsong and a smaller effect (1/3 of a mask and 1/4 of a spell compared to just under 1/2 of a mask and spell)

[hardy jolt]

thats truee

for some reason even tho i like druid eyes in this game i never used grubsong in hk

it feels more valuable in this game

[dense wasp]

its just hard to justify for me here when its competing with stuff like volt and longclaw

[hardy jolt]

i use those two alongside druid eyes

[dense wasp]

well where do i put my purple paint then

i need my 3dps

[hardy jolt]

🔥

thats fair i dont use red tools often

i prefer getting close and personal

[dense wasp]

ive been using them more and more

ive been trying to get my curveclaw rebounds with hunter

[hardy jolt]

does this mean what i think it means

can you hit curveclaw back outwards after it comes back

[dense wasp]

yeah

[opal totem]

I almost never felt the need for longclaw in this game

While I played most of hk with long nail/mark of pride

[dense wasp]

hunters down pogo doesnt work with it currently though unless youre on beta

[hardy jolt]

thats so cool

[dense wasp]

it takes the 3rd/4th slot because there isnt something better usually

[hardy jolt]

same tbh kinda but i cant find any better alternatives

as i play the game more i find injector bands and multibinder less and less neccasary

[dense wasp]

might be different with the sawtooth circlet and wispfire buff though

[hardy jolt]

so i dont use them anymore

[opal totem]

I feel like multibinder has better value than druid's eves

[hardy jolt]

i just like the fact that i can use druid eyes for spells too so i can spam spells even more

its very versatile

[opal totem]

Just wait until egg of flealia gets buffed

Surely it will happen

[hardy jolt]

[opal totem]

Who nerfed my drill

They used to oneshot bloatroaches

[dim harbor]

I don t think you can get anywhere but to bench unless something new was found

[hardy jolt]

oh

rip

[dim harbor]

Free bench tho

Also theres skips a person got wings in act 1 so yeah still you techniclly can

[opal totem]

Dead to groal

Sharpdarted right into double damage twice instead of pimpillo

[dim harbor]

I wonder how lower %runs will look like for true ending

[opal totem]

I want to see a run where you hold as many unique items in the inventory at once as possible

[dim harbor]

Could be interesting

So many side quests

[clever furnace]

higher beings, these words are for you alone

Hello

[wide ledge]

hollow knight city building game from the point of view of pale king

[clever furnace]

next civilization game

[digital robin]

You start with only buzzsaws

[clever furnace]

nono, you ONLY have buzzsaws, and you have to carve buildings out of them!

[broken plover]

And you sacrifice millions of children until the 'right' one appears

Then you let it eat the sun

[misty isle]

somehow expected the first death to be to Morrowing

[opaque shard]

[clever furnace]

So far we have died multiple times stupidly in far fields -Atropos

[misty isle]

Anyways the death was jumping off the ground while far from Morrowing to heal, and got hit by the sawblade that was in curved motion during the flash

[barren ingot]

isnt it Moor-wing

[oak swift]

Fair nough

My first steel death was uber embarassing

Died while trying to do sister splinter skip

[clever furnace]

ironically it is safer to be closer to moorwing and heal in the air

lots of bosses have moves that are trickier to avoid when further out

[misty isle]

shoutout to huge bosses that have a weapon of their past assasination attempts lodged in their head, one of my favourite tropes

[oak swift]

It has no consistent way to attack you in the air if you are far, so if you are really scared do that

None of the bosses are good at swatting you compared to hitting you on the ground

[misty isle]

anyways I think I am getting decent at fights rn

I can beat all early game bosses before music even starts looping

[opaque shard]

Heres a tip:

Git gud

[misty isle]

thanks man, you just enlightened me, havent considered that before

[opaque shard]

I give the best tips

[clever furnace]

wonder how much damage am I doing with needle strike

[opaque shard]

Hope tis helps

[little ferry]

If you don't yell git gud before a fight are you really playing skong

[misty isle]

second Moorwing death on Steel Soul wohoo

[clever furnace]

The damage of Needle Strikes multiplies with other Needle damage increases
hm, does it add with other multipliers, or is it after other multipliers, like wanderer crit

[misty isle]

I cant believe I can do Lace 2 more consistently than Moorwing

[clever furnace]

ah, looking at https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Damage_Values_and_Enemy_Health_(Silksong)#Needle, it seems that the damage is multiplied before any modifiers, directly to the needle damage value

[opaque shard]

Real

[misty isle]

ok chat guess: will I die at Moorwing next attempt

[little ferry]

Nah you got this
Just make sure to yell garama

[clever furnace]

13 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.25) = 19.5
rounded to even, that makes it 20
20 times 2 strikes grands a total of 40 damage, not too bad hm

[misty isle]

ok Moss Mother music didnt even reach the second part 💔

I think I might be gitting gud

[clever furnace]

nvm I'm wrong, I took the non-needle strike value kek

18 * 1.5 = 27
27 * 2 is 54, pretty good

4 off of doing a needle strike with palesteel

from 36 without buffs to 54 with barbed focus

[misty isle]

ok arena music didnt loop too

holy shit just landed a beautiful pogo chain across a room 🥹

[clever furnace]

damn it's SO satifying to needle strike those pesky underlofts

actually it's satisfying to delete all of the underworkers

[opaque shard]

Mercy kill

[misty isle]

apparently the melody Lace is humming before first battle is the title screen theme lol

got too cocky and then the magnetising parry attack got me 💔

at least it wasnt Moorwing

[clever furnace]

gotta git better

[misty isle]

yeah

cant wait to die at Trobbio 50 times

[clever furnace]

not much else that can help you against lace 1, at most you can get a spool extension and druid's eye in that stage

[opaque shard]

lace 1 aint even that hard lol

[clever furnace]

you can get wanderer too if the issue is not running into lace

[misty isle]

Yeah the fight is easy af, I was just trying to do it as fast as possible

[tawdry osprey]

lace 1 harder than 2 and 3

[misty isle]

Parried the attack, mini jump + pogo, got hit by magnetising hitbox before the parry landed

[clever furnace]

The most annoying part of steel soul is losing the dash/sprint everytime you die -Atropos

[misty isle]

REAL

[clever furnace]

you purposefully clash with attacks? nice

[misty isle]

Yeah, its more fun that way

[dim harbor]

Parrying in silksong is fun, and useful against lace

[clever furnace]

Oh wow, that sounds fun -Atropos

[misty isle]

Playing defensively for a second run would be boring, so dealing as much damage as possible is just my playstyle now

[clever furnace]

i can relate, I would never part with hunter barbed for more health options

[unreal hedge]

i think the boss' name is Elder Scrolls IV

[opaque shard]

Nah it more wink

[little ferry]

Isn't Morrowind TES III

[barren ingot]

that's Oblivion

I think.

[unreal hedge]

tbh I just remembered it was one of the Elder Scrolls games and assumed it was 4th I have never played any TES game

[little ferry]

Dam

I have all three but barely touched III and IV

[clever furnace]

wonder why sherma has a girl va
sound cuter ig?

[little ferry]

Female va voice a good amount of male characters in general

Some people have crazy range

[clever furnace]

interesting

[sudden plover]

I forgot who made this abomination but you need to see it

[clever furnace]

is this like, a lore room or smth, it's just 8 silk behind a hefty paywall

like, yea, i get it, silk was and still is a big deal for the citadel

[sudden plover]

Oh God no

[clever furnace]

imma empty the machine for fun

at least on this room you get to talk with a recurring npc

[misty isle]

Thinking of doing a coin flip with every future Steel Soul death

Heads is next run, tails is modding hell

[sudden plover]

Everyone talks about weavers looking different in hollow knight but

What if they have regional variants like pokemon

[clever furnace]

mount fay time

[opaque shard]

I mean first sinner also looks different compared to other weavers

[full vale]

hi chat :)

[opaque shard]

hi

[clever furnace]

barbed mount fay, what could go wrong

[opaque shard]

Wait do the freezing do double damage?

[clever furnace]

surprisingly, nope

general cold and freezing water do 1 mask per tick

[full vale]

fuck sinners road

[sudden plover]

I liked sinners road

And bilewater

Neat platforming challenges

[opaque shard]

I only hate sinnersroad cuz mukroaches

[clever furnace]

I hate the muckmaggots -Atropos

[sudden plover]

Atla is the biggest nest, right?

[opaque shard]

I think so ye

[clever furnace]

nohit climb

[sudden plover]

Imagine we get a dlc that adds a massive weavenest called like "The Grand Weavenest" and there's a bunch of dead weavers but like 3 who are still alive and you can talk to them

[opaque shard]

Second sinner third sinner and fourth sinner

[clever furnace]

got my wings

[full vale]

sigh... hi styx...

[gleaming badger]

finally...

[sudden plover]

Styx is weird

[gleaming badger]

i only have one achievement to get

[sudden plover]

I like him, he's neat

[tawdry osprey]

lets gooo

[sudden plover]

But like

Why are you so determined do be my slave

[gleaming badger]

bro got nothing to devote his life to

[opaque shard]

He is a redditor

[full vale]

oh i could fight phantom rn

[full vale]

TRUE

not complainign though cough

anywho

well hello there exhaust organ

[clever furnace]

Thoughts on going to Last Judge for steel soul -Atropos

go for it

Okay -Atropos

Thats the route we always want to go on

While it is longer

The last judge is a funner boss than phantom imo

fuck, I'm missing one (1) tool slot to upgrade hunter to level 2

so I need one (1) memory locket

What exactly are the numbers for the upgrades? -Atropos

first visit hunter 1
12 yellow vesticrest
20 blue vesticrest
27 hunter 2
32 sylphsong

all slots from crests except hunter count, red, blue, yellow, and silk skill slot

Sylphsong? -Atropos

no slot from hunter counts, not even from memory locket unlocks

[clever furnace]

silk on bench

[clever furnace]

Ohh, havent gottent that yet -Atropos

chat, opinions on sharpdart
imo, it's not very convenient with its start lag and very long distance

Its fart, lol -Atropos

Its like the only one we will never use

[opaque shard]

When the sinner is first

[clever furnace]

You are good at art -Atropos

[opaque shard]

ty!

[clever furnace]

chat almost lost to a flintflame flyer

really evil enemy, tanky and throws double damage projectiles

good that ignis doesn't summon these guys lol

[opaque shard]

Godhome update:

[clever furnace]

lesson learned ig, do not the deep docks without magma bell

even with a "don't get hit" build, it is devastating to get my masks evaporated by constant double damage

[opaque shard]

Thats why I didnt do the deep docks key rooms till I was max gear on steel soul lol

[wraith night]

hopping in here to show a photo i took after Suffering

[opaque shard]

Birb

[wraith night]

i think it’s a moth but yeah lol

[clever furnace]

wait, does magma bell do anything against flintflame explosions

[opaque shard]

Test it out >=}

[clever furnace]

i could swear I got double damaged by it

[void prawn]

I HATE. Lost lace

One of her attacks can do FOUR DMG

[opaque shard]

What which one

[void prawn]

For me the double slash counted as two seperate hits

[opaque shard]

Yeah dosent it deal 1 mask twice ?

wait are you using barbs

[void prawn]

No

There's also a combo you can get stuck in that deals like

[opaque shard]

im confusion i dont think that ever happened to me

[void prawn]

8dmg

Dash+upper slash +spin+down slash

"But hey it's balanced because you don't lose two silk per hit taken anymore"

[opaque shard]

She took me like 10 attempts

And I dont think I ever lost 8 mask in any of thoso attempts

[clever furnace]

yea the flyswatter is really harsh, low lag and massive hitbox
she pretty much gets you guaranteed if ure off the ground, or too close when she does it

[void prawn]

Didn't get in the combo of doom death and agony ig

[opaque shard]

Im just built diffrent

[void prawn]

I lost two masks at the phase transition then died shortly after on my latest attempt

[opaque shard]

| me fr
v

[clever furnace]

forebrothers time...

[opaque shard]

Dont forget the fractured mask and magma bell

[clever furnace]

locking in hard
this time I got the shining needle, magma bell and an extra mask

[void prawn]

VERY IMPORTANT USE MAGMA BELL

[clever furnace]

and also learned to abuse needle strikes

[void prawn]

I got chills when I heard the white palace motif before I even started that section of red memory

Am I a nerd for that

[clever furnace]

got em

[void prawn]

Matterafact

If I didn't barely cry at media I would be bawling my eyes out at the white palace section of red memory

The motif is beautiful

Seth too

[clever furnace]

hunter 2 time

[void prawn]

How many memory lockets are needed for each Eva upgrade

[clever furnace]

it has the bug shell under those feathers but tbh it really seemed like Ari got really into birds while designing the enemies

the craws themselves are basically ravens

[void prawn]

Is it possible craws aren't seduced by the haunting because like

They're shown to have some conscious (wearing black cloaks in act 3 in mourning)

[full vale]

phantom lace two is horrid

like it's genuinely so laggy

[clever furnace]

do they show strands when using the needolin on them

[opaque shard]

I dont think crawfather does?

Not on pc rn tho

[clever furnace]

hunter 2 obtained
i can now have a staggering 65% extra damage when full focus

[void prawn]

Uhhh idk I'm fighting lace 3 rn

[clever furnace]

the bug believes itself capable of avoiding damage

[void prawn]

I feel so basic using only hunter

[clever furnace]

i would much prefer Hunter Crest if it just removed some percentage of focus upon getting hit

yea, it's not that hard when you nuke enemies in a few hits

not all of it

6 hits without getting hit aint that hard

[full vale]

shut the FUCK up lace

[clever furnace]

beauty

[full vale]

should i do beast crest only

(the answer is yes)