Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[distant holly]

[sturdy heart]

silksong but i remove all the song of the game

Hollow Knight: Silk

[distant holly]

hollow knight: silk

[opal totem]

I think we should remove hollow knight

[sturdy heart]

lets handle silksong to EA games actually

or, something

[distant holly]

wait. maybe collecting soul from creatures is the pale king’s ability. silk is made from the soul, and hornet can collect it. it could have been the fact that enemies are haunted but hornet gains silk from non haunted creatures too

[sturdy heart]

hornet needs to survive till act 3 just because skarrsinger carmelita ost needs to be real

[sturdy heart]

silk is made from the soul 🤔

[distant holly]

terrifying truth: shakra, pinstress, garmond, and other characters are actually haunted and manipulate hornet to continue the journey in pharloom/j

[distant holly]

according to materium

[sturdy heart]

cool

maybe being able to collect soul from striking enemies is related th pale king

[distant holly]

fine thread spun from the soul of its creator.

[sturdy heart]

(i never got too deep into HK lore)

[distant holly]

i mean, the knight can collect soul but it doesn’t really seem to be an ability every bug has

i guess hornet just makes silk from the soul collected

[sturdy heart]

but when you play the needolin the usual strings doesn't appear 🤔 and doesn't the haunting bind the bugs to their like, job or something

[sturdy heart]

makes silk from the soul collected and can produce from within too i think

[broken plover]

Silksongers should I beat up the sun on hollow knight first before I purchase silksong

[sturdy heart]

no hit radiance and maybe you can be able to win the first silksong boss

[distant holly]

that’s a joke , since these characters give silk upon being hit despite not being haunted (so it can’t be explained that hornet just collects the silk from haunted bugs)

[sturdy heart]

kek

[distant holly]

yeah, silk hearts do

[sturdy heart]

why doesn't hornet just get 9 silk hearts is she stupid

[distant holly]

[distant holly]

so like there isn’t really any other explanation. it can only be that it’s the soul from them, since they shouldn’t have silk . well, maybe garmond does due to being from pharloom, but shakra is from outside of it so there is no way lol

also trobbio isn’t haunted either . trobbio just fights for the performance 💔

[sturdy heart]

the vile "game mechanic" option

[opal totem]

Isn't Shakra from the edge of pharloom

[sturdy heart]

trobbio more like gay bug and TROBBIOOOO

mod that makes silksoar horizontal and clawline vertical

[distant holly]

kinda sad there is no infinite length clawline

like the crystal heart

[sturdy heart]

i hoped that silksoar would actually connect between room transitions

[distant holly]

💔

[sturdy heart]

imagine silksoar from bottom moss grotto to blasted steps

shit's crazy

[distant holly]

yeah

you can get to the top of maunt fay in few silk soars lol

[sturdy heart]

its very satisfying yes

[distant holly]

would be annoying to bring the lacquer otherwise

[sturdy heart]

imo i wouldn't mind, i love mount fay's parkour

[broken plover]

"Ahhhh"
"Ooohhh"
"Ehhhhhh"
💥 🎆 TROBBBIOOOOO! 🎆 💥
"Bleh"

[distant holly]

[void prawn]

Is first sinner just a faster widow

[distant holly]

the background music: "troobbio"

[distant holly]

the fight is kinda similar but not really

like hollow knight and broken vessel

sealed weaver

[sturdy heart]

first sinner is everything GMS wanted to be

[opal totem]

Widow's bells are harder to dodge than nails tbh

[sturdy heart]

you also get better movement in first sinner so like

[distant holly]

those gods loving to throw nails at you

[opal totem]

Double jump already trivializes mount fay

[distant holly]

radiance, grand mother silk

[sturdy heart]

act 1 faydown cloak no clawline ❤️‍🩹

act 1 seth bossfight 😭

[distant holly]

act two through wisp thicket

[sturdy heart]

oh yeah

act 1 or act 2

seth bossfight

[distant holly]

father of the flame act 1

[sturdy heart]

father of the flame sucks kinda 💔

[split sluice]

Find a way to sequence break and fight Karmelita as your first boss

[distant holly]

it’s impossible though

you need needolin

[sturdy heart]

and the upgrade

[distant holly]

this action actually requires needolin, it’s not scripted

[void prawn]

Ok that fight was fun

[opal totem]

You know what I think would be cool

If steel soul allowed one death but after it the steel gang starts hunting you down everywhere and kill you permanently

[void prawn]

I noticed first sinner has the same voice lines and music as widow

[split sluice]

Peak idea actually

Basically the reapers

[full vale]

love claw skip

FUCK ME I ACCIDENTALLY STARTED FIGHTING SISTER SPLINTER

[void prawn]

How I feel loosing all my money again from the same gear that you practically walk right into if you don't stop moving right as you enter the room

[full vale]

real

[sturdy heart]

that one mod that removes enviroments damage

[void prawn]

Console

[sturdy heart]

crazy

[void prawn]

Yo the gms silk skill is sick

[sturdy heart]

homing missles

[void prawn]

Hmmm

Do I use Phantoms silk skill first sinners skill or uh

Gms' silk skill

[clever furnace]

wonder if the little silk eaters ever grow up

[opal totem]

I don't think they do

They're kind of just there to give you more silk

[full vale]

just first tried widow after a while of not playing silksong

hell yeah

[sudden plover]

I just beats savage beast fly 2

[split sluice]

Silksong’s godhome equivalent will be all savage beastfly

[void prawn]

I just put a curse on the next person who's discord profile is "Troupe Master Grimm" with the pfp of Grimm sleeping if they beat savage beastfly 2 they die

[clever furnace]

hi

[gentle cedar]

shaw

[gentle cedar]

imagine we fight the ||massive beastfly corpse in the chapel|| idk if that counts as spoilers so im tagging it anyway

[clever furnace]

putrified ducts???

[clever furnace]

💀

[gentle cedar]

bless your soul

that looks like pale lake too

[clever furnace]

yes, pale lake

[gentle cedar]

i wonder if there's any other spot in ducts it appears in

or if its just lake

[clever furnace]

just lake looking at the wiki

[gentle cedar]

damn

so they just want you to suffer

mine was over there too after putting my other 2 in the easiest fuckass spots to reach and near eachother </3

[clever furnace]

What are those markers on your map for? -Lotus

[opal totem]

Steel soul quest

[clever furnace]

Ohhh

When do you get that -Lotus

[opal totem]

When you find an npc in blasted steps

Npc that doesn't get new dialogue in act 3

Unplayable

[wise monolith]

me when i cant fight shakra in act 3

[opal totem]

Ring the ring

[gentle cedar]

are we just forgetting the zote dialogue in act 9

[wise monolith]

there is no ring

its gone

[opal totem]

Then walk left or right

She's defending bellhart

[wise monolith]

you literally cant

you cant fight her

[gentle cedar]

sometimes you can find her sitting in bellhart for a breather

[opal totem]

Oh fight

Yeah you can't

[gentle cedar]

ohh yeah no that fight is inaccessible in act 3

[clever furnace]

yea shakra fight is missable

[gentle cedar]

same as garmond and zaza

[wise monolith]

what did you guys think i said

[opal totem]

Find

[gentle cedar]

idk i dont read

[wise monolith]

haha i did that one!!!11!!!1!!11!!

[gentle cedar]

apparently there are some triggers that make garmond and zaza missable in act 2

[wise monolith]

weitd

weird

[gentle cedar]

i heard it was doing either second sentinel or threefold melody

that like disables it

[wise monolith]

garmond and zaza is so weird

their triggers are strang

[opal totem]

At this point I have no idea what the trigger for Garmond moving in is

I thought it's finishing forum arena, some people assumed it's fixing second sentinel, then I was told it's getting all three melodies

All of these happened and I still was able to fight him in my recent save

[gentle cedar]

odd

maybe its board quests??

[opal totem]

Could be

It was a speedrun save so I didn't do any of those

[gentle cedar]

since on my first save i only saw him once in the citadel before he moved into songclave

but by then i had already done most the board quests

[opal totem]

I saw him around the citadel twice before he appeared at the dueling spot

[gentle cedar]

on my steel soul i didnt see him at all, i just went to the duel spot and he was there

garmond and zaza are the biggest mystery because idfk what triggers anything for them

[distant holly]

pantheon of beastfly

immortal beastfly that summons every enemy in the game in order

and only after all can be killed

[opal totem]

Pantheons if they were made by hakita

[gentle cedar]

cant wait to fight gms in the savage beastfly pantheon rematch

[opal totem]

Immortal tarmite mod when

[gentle cedar]

minigun tarmite mod when

[distant holly]

it’s worse, this one is missable if you complete quests in songclave

[opal totem]

So is it quests based

[distant holly]

probably

which means you have to fight second sentinel

[opal totem]

What you mean have to

[distant holly]

it’s a quest in songclave

if you complete it and others you will miss the duel

[gentle cedar]

ah yeah so it is quests then

[opal totem]

Well then you have to not complete it

[distant holly]

true

is second sentinel even hard

i accidentally beat the fight first try

💔

[opal totem]

I think it's the boss everyone just facetanked

Would really benefit from double damage

[distant holly]

i remember you’re cogflies

[opal totem]

You're druid's eyes multibinder wanderers

It upsets me that wanderer is doing a better job at being beast than beast

[slim fjord]

pollip pouch multibinder druids eye flea brew flint slate beast

[distant holly]

wait

do druid’s eyes generate silk twice if you hit with rapid double 1 mask attacks

or once

[opal totem]

Not sure, would make sense if it's double

[opal totem]

Flea brew doesn't stack with beast's bind

Fun fact: I thought longclaw doesn't work on shaman because I was using injector band to test it

[distant holly]

yeah i’m also unsure

it seems like dice can activate on either hit

[opal totem]

I remember dice doing that yeah

[distant holly]

which means it can’t negate 2 damage but the chance should be higher though

[clever furnace]

How do you get shaman? -Lotus

[gentle cedar]

what act are you on

[clever furnace]

3

[distant holly]

near shamans

[clever furnace]

[gentle cedar]

in the ruined chapel

you gotta go all the way to the rightmost room and use silk soar

[clever furnace]

Okay then ig -Lotus

Thanks -Lotus

[distant holly]

injector band + multibinder + druid’s eyes

wait how good is it compared to grubsong

it’s better actually

[opal totem]

Is it

[distant holly]

no i’m wrong

it’s a bit worse

[opal totem]

Grubsong gives 15 soul per hit, eyes' equivalent would be ~11

[clever furnace]

Transmascs will love silksong
You bind all the time -Lotus

[distant holly]

you need to get hit 9 times with druid’s eyes but only 7 with grubsong

for full silk/soul meter

it might be better with multibinder though (which is actually a viable option unlike deep focus)

[opal totem]

I think it's more crest dependant

I'd consider it on wanderer and beast, otherwise seems like a pretty bad pick

[distant holly]

there’s a lot more healing windows in silksong

even without injector band it’s often enough for multibinder

[opal totem]

I'd rather try to not take damage

[distant holly]

yeah but you would need to only get 7 hits to heal (if you take 2 mask damage twice, get 2 silk)

[opal totem]

Why 7

[clever furnace]

damn, cross stitch is actually pretty epic

[opal totem]

Oh yeah it was buffed

[clever furnace]

oh

wonder what the cross stitch symbol's supposed to be

[broken plover]

My favorite part in the Silksong Movie is when Trobbio burst in and went "Ahhhh"
"Ooohhh"
"Ehhhhhh"
💥 🎆 TROBBBIOOOOO! 🎆 💥
"Bleh"
And Silksonged all over the place

[sudden plover]

I guess I have a slave now. I tried to decline

[broken plover]

Any hollow knight experts know if leg eater still dissappears if you go to him with the unbreakable charms after the grimm troupe leaves/gets banished

[void prawn]

The curse is in motion

[sudden plover]

Skong dlc idea:

The Pale King is overcome by silk, causing his kingdom to succumb to a new plague. With the help of the hollow knight, hornet battles through hordes of silk possessed husks.

Boss ideas:

Silk defender

Silken vessel

Lace

Silken prince zote (it's just the colosseum zote fight once again)

Silkseeker

The Silken King of Hallownest

[opal totem]

Apparently this exists

[sudden plover]

ASS

[opal totem]

Jim

[sudden plover]

What do y'all think

[quiet sentinel]

Huh interesting, have you guys seen the new green prince thing on the beta branch

[clever furnace]

y'all should I destroy the light

[opal totem]

I don't think it does anything

[sudden plover]

Mentioned the idea in another server

Someone said "but PK is dead"

So? The silk cann possess corpses

"His corpse is in the dream realm"

Silk can be used to access memories, it could probably find a way into the dream realm

[quiet sentinel]

eat them

[sudden plover]

No I have not enlighten me

[clever furnace]

it just makes the bench area even more shit

[opal totem]

But I want more silksong, not more hk

I want more original stories

[sudden plover]

Has anyone drawn what hornet might look like after the weaver queen ending?

I wanna know what people think

[slim fjord]

spider

[quiet sentinel]

when you defeat green prince and come back to the place where they died next to the automaton, there'll be clover sprouts sprouting around them

idk if its just a little detail but people are speculating it to be a dlc hint

[drowsy ginkgo]

i really hope we get a dlc for the coral area

its too pretty to just scrap it how they did

[quiet sentinel]

that's what the speculating is, cut content return

[wide ledge]

always bet on restore pharloom dlc

[distant holly]

you have 2 silk from 2 damage, need 9 to bind

[distant holly]

what is this

[quiet sentinel]

you reacted to it

[opal totem]

It was repurposed, not cut, so I doubt it'll return

Unlike snail village place

[drowsy ginkgo]

still, id like to see a full region as long as they could fit it into the story somehow

[quiet sentinel]

no the entire platforming section and exploring the area was definitely cut out

even the steel soul looking dudes

[opal totem]

I don't think steel soul dudes were specific to this area

[quiet sentinel]

no way to know because its cut

[opal totem]

And it seems many things from the coral area ended up being blasted steps and SoK

[drowsy ginkgo]

while i think getting a full coral area probably isnt happening, id be willing to bet steel assassin sharpe is still gonna be a thing

or something very similar

[opal totem]

Yeah that still seems possible

[drowsy ginkgo]

has anyone had issues with the liquid lacquer quest not showing up in act 3?

[opal totem]

Not specifically in act 3 but I didn't get this quest in steel soul

But this was already fixed

[drowsy ginkgo]

hmm im in steel soul, has it only been fixed in a beta

[opal totem]

Possibly

There were two fixes to courier quests in patches that are already live

[quiet sentinel]

What was wrong with them, I literally didn't do a single one other than the pale oil one

[opal totem]

The one for mask maker just didn't appear

[drowsy ginkgo]

well the quest showed up after i did a songclave supply run

i really thought i was gonna be locked out of doing one tiny little thing lol

[void prawn]

Hey slugchat

I know there's two fleas in the ducts (one being vog)

But every guide only guides you to get vog

[drowsy ginkgo]

i thought vog was the only one

[clever furnace]

i don't remember another flea in ducts

[opal totem]

How do you know there are two fleas

[hardy jolt]

why dont you buy a map from vog and check

[void prawn]

Vogs mal

Map

[hardy jolt]

ooh wait

[void prawn]

There's a flea marker right under the first room of putrified ducts

[hardy jolt]

yeah thats at the citadel

[opal totem]

Which is not in putrified ducts

[void prawn]

Ah

Every guide also happens to not cover it as well

[hardy jolt]

real

[wide ledge]

team cherry is EVIL and made the fleas too close to unrelated regions

[quiet sentinel]

[hardy jolt]

paws at u :3

[wide ledge]

under underworks? WRONG!! it's at the zone you've never gone to at the top of greymoor

[quiet sentinel]

wruffffff

[hardy jolt]

arf wruff :3

[opal totem]

Might be a good idea to buy flea maps one at a time

[clever furnace]

hallo
I almost lost steel soul to standard underworks enemies multiple times

[clever furnace]

This paw emoji is so cute -Lotus

[opal totem]

So you don't buy citadel map and wonder why there are a new flea in putrified ducts

[hardy jolt]

underworks is scary

[opal totem]

Real

[clever furnace]

may have been too tired to properly plan my movements

[opal totem]

I almost lost my first steel soul to 2 damage steam

[clever furnace]

I love underworks -Lotus

[hardy jolt]

sameee

its such a cool area

[opal totem]

It's one of areas ever

[wide ledge]

it's got the capitalism benches

and therefore I hate it

alloyed collective tomorrow

[drowsy ginkgo]

same 😭

[clever furnace]

Its cool worldbuilding though -Lotus

[hardy jolt]

when i was playin silksong for the first time i thought it was good but then i got to underworks and i started actually loving the game

[clever furnace]

I lost my first steel soul run because i tried fighting that hidden big rolly guy in the first room of the game -Lotus

[opal totem]

Is it actually out tomorrow or just another dev diary

[wide ledge]

dev diary

[clever furnace]

Therefore dying at the first enemy in the game -Lotus

[wide ledge]

I started loving silksong when peak appeared on my screen

(blasted steps)

[opal totem]

Bilewater

[clever furnace]

haha that guy has my most amount of lost steel souls

[hardy jolt]

blasted steps is so awesome...

[quiet sentinel]

time for 13th steel soul attempt surely this time i dont be stupid

[hardy jolt]

gl

[opal totem]

Maybe I should do another steel soul attempt

I want more silksong

[wide ledge]

why even bench on steel soul if you can't even die honestly #removebenches

[clever furnace]

we should get blasted steps 2 with worms that deal 4 mask damage

[opal totem]

Tools

While citadel with no benching felt unusually peaceful I kinda missed my pins and sting shards

[clever furnace]

I started loving silksong when peak appeared on my screen
(act 1 : Pharloom) -Lotus

[wide ledge]

true

I perfectly predicted when and how the second act popup text was going to play out heh

heh

according to my friend it was obvious but I don't caaare

[quiet sentinel]

mucked beastfly oh hell no

[clever furnace]

Mucked beastfly? -Lotus

[wide ledge]

mod

[opal totem]

Do we need any more proof that modding was a mistake

[wide ledge]

savage beastfly in bilewater

noope

it was a miracle

I think I could beat double lost sinner if they didn't kill me instantly

[quiet sentinel]

it summons the bile spitter things and also the platforms crumble underneath you yea no

LMAO thats awful

[clever furnace]

surely I don't lose my steel soul to far fields savage beastfly

[clever furnace]

Oh no 😨 -Lotus

[quiet sentinel]

We need a mod that adds a variation like this to every area

cant wait to replace moss mother with beastfly

[gleaming badger]

(act 3 soilers) crazy save

[quiet sentinel]

mossy beastfly

ppl need to stop using the new encoder

[wide ledge]

cogwork beastfly at the dancers arena

[quiet sentinel]

i cant play videos encoded in that format

im not upgrading to windows 11

[opal totem]

Which one do I use then

[wide ledge]

silksong steel soul with only beast crest and barbed wire like if you agree

[opal totem]

Make barbed +1 dmg instead of 2x and I might agree

[gleaming badger]

thats just what my steam exports as

[clever furnace]

1.25x

[opal totem]

Damage taken

[wide ledge]

a fourth of a mask

[clever furnace]

yea yea yea I realized just after sending

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[drowsy ginkgo]

would 1.5x dmg on your attacks make it worth it?

[opal totem]

Probably not

I like not dying

[drowsy ginkgo]

what about 2 times?

i think thats when i would start using it

[opal totem]

Then I'll probably try it out, still die and never use it again

[quiet sentinel]

i cant believe silksong copied hollow knight, like the style and gameplay is so similar its a blatant copy

[drowsy ginkgo]

fr lol

[opal totem]

It's the kind of extreme where you either kill everything so quick it's not even fun or you die too quick which isn't fun either

[drowsy ginkgo]

if it did do 2x it would definitely be broken in the right hands

[clever furnace]

I think barbed is fine as is
I take it as a handicap, because without it I genuinely need to try to crack my fractured mask

and the damage bonus is to get something out of the handicap, namely, taking about a hit less to kill fodder enemies
and progressing tougher ones faster

it would also make no sense for a bit of barbed wire to double your damage

[opal totem]

I'd rather it be more than mainly a handicap

Taking 3 damage for 25% boost sounds fair to me

4 is too much

[quiet sentinel]

maybe she wraps it around the needle

but its probably an adrenaline thing since the double damage

[clever furnace]

i feel like it's just the equivalent of overcharming where you gain a small benefit that's normally not worth the massive handicap but it's still really useful in certain situations

[opal totem]

Simply add radiant bosses to make it viable

[clever furnace]

barbed, unexpectedly, synergizes pretty good with hunter crest
gotta not get hit to keep focus
and barbed's disadvantage comes when getting hit

[quiet sentinel]

i wonder if anyones died to the bell that drops while youre frozen in the kill animation

[clever furnace]

long as focus is kept, you can hit really hard with standard attacks
a shame that neither barbed or focus buffs tools or silk skills

[quiet sentinel]

also is there a reason for why silk heart is with bellbeast lore-wise cause theres just a ton of lingering silk in the room but that doesnt explain much

[quiet sentinel]

its really good with wanderer too cause it affects the crits as well which is funny

[opal totem]

Good question

[wide ledge]

is there a lore reason for any silk heart

[quiet sentinel]

i mean the other 2 form in places of high silk density

this one is just kinda there

[wide ledge]

widow shouldve gotten the silk heart

I'm lying kinda itd be kinda odd

[quiet sentinel]

id probably just have chosen lace 1 to have it idk

if there is a lore reason for bell beast then sure

[opal totem]

Lace also works

[quiet sentinel]

but i dont see it

yea

[opal totem]

Widow makes the most sense but I guess they didn't want to give her 2 unlocks

You don't need silk hearts until needolin anyway

[wide ledge]

bearing the silk out of lace it sent me to the silk realm

beating

[quiet sentinel]

speaking of them, did you do mount fay with 1 or more silk hearts

[wide ledge]

why the hell did it get autocorrected

[quiet sentinel]

i tried attempting on 1 and got annoyed at running out midair so went and got a 2nd one before i got my wings

[wide ledge]

1

[opal totem]

1

[wide ledge]

who the hell knows about the unravelled

imagine

[opal totem]

Third silk heart was one of the last things I did to 100%

[clever furnace]

damage modifiers are additive right? (except wanderer crit)

[quiet sentinel]

no

theres literally damage reduction modifiers that work on a percent

[wide ledge]

whaattt

what reduces your damage

can't think of anything

[opal totem]

Some enemies have resists I think

[quiet sentinel]

some enemies + bosses get damage reduction based on your nail upgrades

my wife is so cool

[opal totem]

I have a cool theory that there's some jank with how wisp lanterns take damage

[clever furnace]

some enemies have a reduction against higher tier weapons to reduce the impact of the higher level

[wide ledge]

evil

[clever furnace]

it's for good reason, you'd otherwise delete enemies that look tough

[wide ledge]

how dare I not be able to one hit everyrhing

smh..

no needle upgrades and no tools LL fight

[clever furnace]

I'm looking at this modifiers table, and the biggest reduction goes to fourth chorus with a 0.45 multiplier when hit with level 4 weapons

[wide ledge]

crazy

[quiet sentinel]

does reaper crest actually deal more damage? or is it just slow to balance out the bind

would be cool if it did like an extra 5 damage

[opal totem]

No reaper smells

[opal totem]

Would also be cool if wanderer did less

[wide ledge]

true...

[quiet sentinel]

literally unplayable

[wooden sun]

Hover Hornet

[opal totem]

Not the first time hornet gets an ability to float

[clever furnace]

reaper should get some damage buff so it stinks less

it hits soooo slow

[wide ledge]

this happens so much times it makes me die a lot

[opal totem]

I watched a crest tier list video today and reaper was put above hunter

[quiet sentinel]

yea it feels like it should hit harder

[opal totem]

Criminal

[wide ledge]

it should have a hit stop everytime you hit with reaper

no damage buff just placebo

[opal totem]

It has a hit stop on some attacks, it just only affects hornet

[wide ledge]

reaper is only good because of the uppercut

[opal totem]

Eh

[quiet sentinel]

wruff

i think its quite ruff

[opal totem]

There have been very few times I used uppercut to hit something airborne

[hardy jolt]

i just learned that the track name that plays in the arena when you get ur stuff back from the slab after getting kidnapped is called red maiden hornets theme instead of the enemies theme

arf :3

[quiet sentinel]

yes :3

[wooden sun]

Hornet's not stuck in there with them,
They're stuck in there with HER

[opal totem]

Yeah true

Totally didn't almost lose steel soul to two wardenflies

[wide ledge]

I died so many times in that arena for some reason

[clever furnace]

on the other end, you do get a damage bonus if your weapons are low level for the stage you're on
though still less than simply upgrading your weapons

[wooden sun]

The funniest part about that section to me is if you look at your cloak in the inventory afterward, it'll say it smells like flies, and it takes about a few hours to wear off.

[opal totem]

Don't you clean it by showering

[wooden sun]

That's how it wears off?

[opal totem]

I believe so

[broken plover]

I beat up Grey prince for the first time and now bretta's depressed what do I do

[opal totem]

I wonder if showers in citadel can wash off maggots

[opal totem]

Do it 8 more times

[wooden sun]

Considering how much attention to detail they put in everywhere, I'd assume yes

[clever furnace]

biggest damage bonus goes to shadow charger with a whopping 2.5x damage taken when struck by level 0 weapons

[glad stratus]

OOH OOOH I KNOW THAT GIY

[quiet sentinel]

the biggest damage bonus taken is me when i am skill issue

[glad stratus]

||chat wtf is a craw summons||

[quiet sentinel]

nice bug stupid game

hp bar stays if you kill it with the environment

[glad stratus]

||do I go back to greymoor now???||

[opal totem]

Blame mods

[clever furnace]

head to craw lake to find out

[opal totem]

Always blame mods

[clever furnace]

I meant if damage bonuses add (25% + 25% = 50%) or multiply (1.25 * 1.25 = 1.5625)

[glad stratus]

||oh hey Seth, again, are you gonna quirrel on me :(||

[clever furnace]

looking at the wiki, it seems that they simply add, with the exception of wanderer crit that multiplies damage done by 3 after other damage bonuses apply

[glad stratus]

||oh okay you just wanted to talk about birds||

[quiet sentinel]

what

[opal totem]

Damage numbers wiki lists for void filament and shaman are higher than I thought

[quiet sentinel]

that is literally multiplying

[clever furnace]

nvm

[quiet sentinel]

lol

[glad stratus]

||damn rune rage is fun||

[clever furnace]

i've heard that the wanderer's crest has great dps but the range felt pathetic so i never really used it much

[quiet sentinel]

the additive upgrades is just nail upgrades

pretty sure everything else is a multiplier even stuff like flint

[opal totem]

Iirc wanderer's range is about the same as hunter's, its arc is just much thinner

[clever furnace]

needle 2 + hunter focus 1 + barbed does 14 damage, nice

[quiet sentinel]

you could try it with longclaw it makes it a bit better

i used it up until i found shaman then i fell in love with a new crest

this run im doing hunter only

since i practised all bosses with the hunter pogo so thats what ill be used to

[clever furnace]

i'll never not use hunter, with focus it hits so hard

[opal totem]

Used it for the most of my dead steel soul run, only had range issues with flying enemies

Hunter beloved

Did you know hunter is bad because its pogo is ass

[clever furnace]

I think its downslash is pretty sweet

[quiet sentinel]

i wonder how broken a shade dash would be with how fast the sprint dash is

wait it has a cooldown in the original nvm

moorwing time

[opal totem]

You can tell team cherry thought shade dash was very strong by the fact they gave sharp dart a windup

[clever furnace]

35 damage in a single swing with palesteel + hunter lvl 2 + barbed 🤑

[quiet sentinel]

i dont feel safe

everything was going super smooth and i was pogoing the whole time and then i get stuck in his body for 2 hits cause he shooses to do the upside down double claw thing

[opal totem]

Where tools

Why pogo

Doesn't sound safe

[quiet sentinel]

its silly

[clever furnace]

i think i'm used to the hunter's pogo now
then theres..whatever the fuck beast pogo is

[quiet sentinel]

ill get tools after i get needolin cause rn im just speerunning to phial

[opal totem]

Best platforming pogo

[quiet sentinel]

oh thats interesting, sister splinter cannot die while staggered

even if you deplete the healthbar, shell become immune and only until she pops up at the top again will the next hit be fatal

i guess they didnt wanna code 2 different death animations

widow time, where the past 3 runs have ended somehow

[hardy jolt]

made a boss tier list :3

[quiet sentinel]

oh i cant unhear it now LMAO

when she does the dive attack into the claw swipes

she says "SEH" just like grimm does when he dives

i cant believe i noticed it only now

[quiet sentinel]

where is mucked savage beastfly?

is this based on your enjoyment btw

[hardy jolt]

mucked?

[quiet sentinel]

:3

[hardy jolt]

what does mucked mean

[opal totem]

Am I the only one who hears "zota" in one of trobbio's voicelines

[quiet sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-sj9-mh-ts

[hardy jolt]

[clever furnace]

i feel like savage beastfly is overhated

[opal totem]

First one is

Second one is annoying but not because of the boss itself

[quiet sentinel]

YAY we have a steel soul run going

first good attempt since the last 3 attempts

[hardy jolt]

yooo :3

[quiet sentinel]

i did much better that time :3 and just played less aggresive

[quiet sentinel]

what moor said

the minions in 2 are genuinely painful

i think i was underprepared on my 1st playthrough so ill come back a bit better ready for it to hopefully lessen the pain

in general i really dislike tanky flying enemies cause theyre designed to weave and move away from you as well

so youre stuck chasing them tanking some damage to try get rid of them

[opal totem]

My second beastfly attempts are either breeze through or everything goes wrong, no inbetween

[quiet sentinel]

yea im scared lol

gonna equip magma bell for it to be extra safe

[hardy jolt]

best strat for beastfly 2 is prolly like

a passive playstyle with architect

[quiet sentinel]

will it follow you outside of the arena

[hardy jolt]

and focus on killing the minions and let cogflies kill beastfly

[quiet sentinel]

i wonder if you can get it stuck somewhere

[hardy jolt]

hmm good question

savage beastfly cheese

[quiet sentinel]

cause if you can im so down to cheese it cause fuck that boss

fight cheese with cheese

[opal totem]

My most successful attempts where I was aggressive enough to not let it survive for long and summon more ads

[quiet sentinel]

okay, now that i have needolin, time to finally go back and do quests and get masks and stuff

[hardy jolt]

that works too

[quiet sentinel]

my successful attempt funnily enough was putting on bracelet

[opal totem]

Just gotta use skills properly to get rid of small bugs in time

Last time I tried to use tools for that, turns out curveclaw is pretty bad at dealing with them

[quiet sentinel]

yea lol

[wide ledge]

second beastfly was kicking my ass because I'm the best ever and I kept running into it

[quiet sentinel]

pretty sure i had no grapple or anything either

[quiet sentinel]

thread storming worked well but gotta be careful to not use it while it dashes

does eva give you upgrade straight away?

[clever furnace]

hunter lvl 1 yes

[quiet sentinel]

cause since i just got needolin i can go yoink that

sweeet

[wide ledge]

didn't even have a problem with the minions I just kept being way too aggressive on it

with REAPER crest 💔💔💔

[opal totem]

Can't die to tarmites if you die to beastfly first

[hardy jolt]

no

[opal totem]

Was cogflies targeting hookpoint enemies ever fixed

[clever furnace]

does anyone else struggle with implementing needle strikes onto regular play?
when I don't have a chance for more melees, I rather silkspear instead

Also my keyboard doesn't like having X, Z and C pressed at the same time

[opal totem]

I remember there was such fix for wispfire lantern but not flies

[hardy jolt]

yea i never use them

[opal totem]

I mainly only use it against flying enemies that don't give you many attack windows

[hardy jolt]

everytime i try i get punished 💔

[opal totem]

Until I get clawline

[clever furnace]

I use it to delete citadel enemies ig

[quiet sentinel]

What does this mean

[opal totem]

Mount fay bugs

Abyss escape bugs

[quiet sentinel]

oh thats funny

[opal totem]

Surface climb bugs

[barren ingot]

doesnt grimmchild still attack wingmoulds

[opal totem]

You have one cogfly out and you're fucked

[quiet sentinel]

Yea I always forget needle strike exists, it was like that with hk as well

[opal totem]

Maybe it does but it's not an issue because unlike coglfies no one uses it

[quiet sentinel]

My keyboard also has ghosting cause its a poop laptop so i cant really do much holding 1 button

[clever furnace]

Skullwings, Driftlins and Mnemonids

[barren ingot]

what that

[quiet sentinel]

so some motherboard are built in a cheap way to where they can only process a certain amount of inputs at a time

[clever furnace]

oh yea the ghosting sucks
I can either jump or dash with a needle strike ready, but not both

[barren ingot]

oh yeah that

[quiet sentinel]

so for example having certain keys held in an area of the keyboard will make other keys in that same area unresponsive

[barren ingot]

weird name for that

doesnt feel very descriptive

[quiet sentinel]

the term is derivative of rhythm games i believe

its why when i played celeste i used both a controller and keyboard at the same time

the consequences of speedrun

time to catch up on some things

[opal totem]

Can't you fix that by just buying a separate keyboard

Every laptop user I know does that

[clever furnace]

oh, of course, just be richer!

[opal totem]

Keyboards aren't that expensive

[quiet sentinel]

sounds awkard to use on my desk

[opal totem]

Kind of is

[quiet sentinel]

im just saving up money for a proper desktop setup

i have the funds, just waiting until i find a new place

cause i dont wanna haul around a fat pc and get it broken somehow

[clever furnace]

i've never used anything other than a laptop but it stays on my desk all the time

[quiet sentinel]

yea mine just stays there no reason to bring it anywhere

wow my map sucks

[opal totem]

That's what my map looked like when I continued speedrun save

Map description still says it's from Shakra

[quiet sentinel]

thats actually a bit scary without thread storm

isnt the silkshot tool here i swear it was up one of these

[opal totem]

That's snare setter

[quiet sentinel]

oh

can i not get that yet

[opal totem]

Not until faydown cloak

[quiet sentinel]

aah yea

okay i got light spool and upgrade i think im done here for a while

i guess its sorta been tested that memory lockets + crests are like a point system for the side crests so ill come back for those later

oh and rune harp

theyre just throwing a big tantrum

[glad stratus]

you motherfucker

[quiet sentinel]

huh that actually worked lol

[hardy jolt]

waow nice

[quiet sentinel]

at first i was thinking well ofc i cant make a cocoon its steel soul then i got the idea to heal stall and i guess it paid off :3 early sharp dart :3

i have shaman crest brainrot

i instinctively press down + silk skill cause thats the slot it was before

oh yea speaking of this apparently the intended way to kill the plasmified assistant is by using the extractor, not raw dps

but my stupid ass just spammed wanderer until they died

[dim harbor]

That explains so much, he was so bloody tanky

I just flea brew and flintslate and prayed he died before me

[quiet sentinel]

gonna let these pile up as high as they go itll be funny

huh i guess steel soul changes it which is pretty cool

[glad stratus]

||holy shit this crest lets me use 3 different silk skills???||

[opal totem]

Wish that wasn't steel soul exclusive

[quiet sentinel]

wonder what other stuff is exclusive

this game is so peak

[opal totem]

There's that quest reward item that's kinda mid

[quiet sentinel]

steel soul exclusive quest??

[opal totem]

Don't get your hopes up, it's not very exciting

[mental shuttle]

Its for one of the most boring bosses in the game 🥹

What if ||void mass|| could move

[quiet sentinel]

well i died again as soon as i got a new mask so thats great

why am i attempting this again

maybe i should just save and quit cause im getting discouraged at it

whatever i am gonna eat and suck it up and try again tonight i need to stop taking stupid risks and just take it slow

[glad stratus]

||i want a mod for the first hollow Knight that gives hornet all of her silk skills||

[rich vale]

||any tips on widows third phase? (the one were she throws two bells at a time)||

[glad stratus]

||I think I usually did that phase with a safe approach, only dealing damage when absolutely possible, and I used reaper||

[glad stratus]

||also use silk for binding ONLY||

[rich vale]

||i dont have reaper||

[rich vale]

||i never really use slik spear anyway||

[glad stratus]

||Get reaper, it lets you get silk when hitting enemies after binding, can be found in greymoor in the chapel of the reaper||

[rich vale]

ty

[glad stratus]

||I don't remember WHERE it is all ik is it's in the leftmost??? Side of greymoor you'll know when you find it||

[rich vale]

||wouldnt matter anyway since i was too poor to buy the maps for greymoor and shellwood||

[glad stratus]

Lmao 💔

[rich vale]

||what i do with the locked bell home?||

[glad stratus]

||The one with yarnaby?||

[rich vale]

||who is yarnaby||

so no

[glad stratus]

||which one??||

[rich vale]

||the onw asking for a worthy specimin||

[glad stratus]

(alright spoilers for late(ish)-game quest) ||yeah that's yarnaby uhh come back to it when you get a curse in your shell and I don't mean getting infected with muckmaggot||

[dim harbor]

You guys do know, you don t have to spoiler things here right?

[opal totem]

Can't believe silksong dies in the end

[rich vale]

youre meant to

[dim harbor]

not here anymore

[glad stratus]

It's better to be safe than sorry

[dim harbor]

#server-announcements message

[glad stratus]

I will continue to soil

For the sake of others

[dim harbor]

Fair enough

[glad stratus]

Unless I want to exclaim my hatred

Such boundaries

Will not work

[distant holly]

yeah, it has hornet’s leitmotif

[distant holly]

taunt and wanderer’s crit multiply

flintslate and hunter’s focus adds

[distant holly]

use longclaw

[quiet sentinel]

no flint is a multiply

im pretty sure focus is also a multiply

unless they coded a flat number for each upgrade which is dumb

yes they are both multiples

idk why people keep thinking bonuses are additive

thats now how you optimize code

or gameplay

flint is a 50% on top and focus is 25/40% respectively at both crest upgrades

flint also applies after focus

[opal totem]

I don't see how % bonuses being additive is an unreasonable assumption

[quiet sentinel]

so its a true mult

[opal totem]

Doesn't sound much harder to code than all mults either

[quiet sentinel]

cause that doesnt make sense mathematically

you dont add percentage you multiply

they work using decimals

1+1.5 does not equal 1*1.5

[quiet sentinel]

its just extra effort tbh

youd have to code a flat value for each seperate thing

instead you can just apply a multiple and have it affect everything retroactively

its preference

both work

but its more reasonable to assume that anyone that knows what theyre doing will just multiply

[opal totem]

It's not a preference, it's a different result

Slightly different but still

1.25*1.25 doesn't equal 150%

[quiet sentinel]

i never said it did

i dont even know what that is

[distant holly]

yeah? just 4 hits

[quiet sentinel]

im just correcting someone thinking it was additive

[opal totem]

Then how are you even answering this question

[quiet sentinel]

this is going heavily off topic

what question

i wasnt answering any question

[opal totem]

Are % bonuses additive or multiplicative

[quiet sentinel]

yea apparentl

there is no such thing s % bonus

how do you think you get a percentage lol

[opal totem]

How do you think two percentage bonuses stack

[quiet sentinel]

yes multiples apply to each other additively

but thats not what was being asked

of course they apply additively

i wasnt ever denying that

you cant get results by multiplying multiples thats just not how it works

the only caveeat here is true multipliers

[opal totem]

What

[quiet sentinel]

which apply to the final number

okay

so

[distant holly]

no it’s like base needle damage * (multiplier + multiplier + ...)

[quiet sentinel]

yes

well also no

flintslate would be at the end of all of those outside of the bracket

[distant holly]

it doesn’t

[quiet sentinel]

so it would be damage + (mult + mult) * true mult

it would because it applies after everything else

[distant holly]

according to wiki it adds 50% of needle damage

[opal totem]

According to wiki flint is additive

[distant holly]

needle

[quiet sentinel]

then the wiki should look at the code

[opal totem]

Only true mult is wanderer's crit

[quiet sentinel]

i think you need to learn what additive means /srs

[opal totem]

No

[quiet sentinel]

yes

[distant holly]

taunt too

[opal totem]

I think everyone here understands what's meant by additive % bonus except you

[opal totem]

It says taunt is additive too

[quiet sentinel]

okay, how do you get 50% of nail damage additively

please show

write the equation

[opal totem]

You add 50% on top of all other damage bonuses

[quiet sentinel]

okay write it

[distant holly]

i’m pretty sure it actually isn’t, well at least according to a video about max damage in one hit

[opal totem]

If it's the only damage boost it's 1.5x, if it's with barbed it's 1.75x

[distant holly]

unless they changed it in an update

[quiet sentinel]

oh my god

what do you think 1.5x means

is it a flat additive or a multiplier?

[opal totem]

Tbh wiki info is so different from what I've seen in those vids I don't know what to trust anymore

[distant holly]

it adds a flat value that is 0.5*needle damage

[opal totem]

No one questions how a single bonus works

[quiet sentinel]

it does NOT

[opal totem]

The question is how they stack

[quiet sentinel]

ITS literally a MULTIPLIER

[quiet sentinel]

YES

THATS HOW YOU TRANSTALTE MULTUIPLES

oh my god

no

i refuse

im out

[opal totem]

Then explain what the remark about wanderer means

Why is every other bonus +% and only wanderer x3

[quiet sentinel]

cause it applies after everything

[opal totem]

What difference does it make if you claim all damage bonuses are multiplicative

Order wouldn't matter

[quiet sentinel]

there is no difference its just what is simpler to understand

nail damage + (naildamage * 0.5)
nail damage * 1.5

like why make it more complicated than it has to be

[opal totem]

If there's no difference then why is it not +200%

Why apply specifically everything else

[quiet sentinel]

apply what

oh the crit?

[opal totem]

Show me how this works with multiple bonuses

[quiet sentinel]

because with the crit you just slap everything into parentheses and its easier

[quiet sentinel]

give me an example

[opal totem]

Maxed out hunter and barbed

[little ferry]

I love leitmotifs in these games

The Wormways soundtrack makes me want to do backflips

[opal totem]

It's either 1.65x or almost 1.8x depending on how you stack them

[quiet sentinel]

• nail damage + (nail damage*0.35 + nail damage*0.25)
  huh nevermind it IS easier to apply it additively

i take back everything i said i had to sit down and type it out and then realize how much extra effort multiple bonuses are

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[quiet sentinel]

confidence is a crazy thing

i was wrong

[quiet sentinel]

i sat there for like 5 minutes and was like yeaaaaa no

but just for fun it would probably be something like nail damage + (nail damage * 1.35 - nail damage) + (nail damage *1.25 - nail damage) LMAO

[opal totem]

Why not just do like
Nail damage * (1 + 0.25 + 0.15 + 0.25)

[quiet sentinel]

i forgor

turns out flintslate isnt true mult either my rot is eating my brain away

[distant holly]

• enemy damage reduction

[quiet sentinel]

i wonder if that applies to just nail damage or after everything

[opal totem]

This is funny I think

[vocal canyon]

the hell is raging conch doing that high up? Unravelled and Craws are kinda low. Good list though

[wide ledge]

unravelled is too high

[clever furnace]

IT'S CALLED RHINED CHAPEL BECAUSE IT'S THE RUINED SHAMAN CHAPEL

[bronze garden]

lost my steel soul run in the bellvein of all places

[clever furnace]

We have :3 -Lotus

[quiet sentinel]

:3

[quiet sentinel]

I lost my 14th attempt today I'm coping so hard

[clever furnace]

widow always backpedals before doing that grounded slashing attack, unless she's cornered
she always does this move after throwing 3 sets of bells, or earlier at random
the attack can't be dodged if you are in her face when she performs it; her start lag is too small to jump away in time

[quiet sentinel]

I have 2 more days off from work to try beat it... then I'll have to wait a whole week before more attempts :3

[opaque shard]

Pain

[clever furnace]

multipliers can be added
base_damage * (1 + multiplier_1 + multiplier_2 ... + multiplier_n)

[clever furnace]

uhhh, yes that's exactly what I was asking

[quiet sentinel]

lets not start this conversation again

please

it was already resolved

[clever furnace]

no equipment first sinner 🔥

[clever furnace]

yea I saw, I was going down chat history
that sure was one of the convos of raincord
I don't blame you though, confirmation bias can be very strong

[digital robin]

Weaver

[clever furnace]

garama

Vren! -Lotus

[opaque shard]

"This is where I watched my mom die sherma"
Farielo farime kaliosileme davifunciono (definitly wrong)

[opaque shard]

Lol

[sudden plover]

Is that fucking spiderman

[opaque shard]

no

[digital robin]

No, it's weaverman

[little ferry]

Shawabummer

[sudden plover]

I still say first sinner is friend shaped you can't prove me wrong

Something doesn't have to be cute to be friend shaped

Cool looking things are friend shaped too

[clever furnace]

looks like a mentor

like a uhh

like the type of character that teaches you moves in the beginning of the game just to be an endgame boss

[sudden plover]

She gets a single fight, a 10 seconds cutscene, and like a single line of dialogue

[ashen badger]

Favorite boss

[void prawn]

Gang

Y'know that flea that looks like its under putrified ducts

How does one find that flea

[vocal canyon]

yes

it's gotten through secret area in whispering vaults

[void prawn]

So like

Far right breakable wall/ceiling?

[vocal canyon]

yeah, on the right side of whispering vaults, this tall room, there should be a secret there, and also another secret as you fall

which then leads to the flee

[void prawn]

Got it

Ty

That's actually gonna be the last flea I need

[vocal canyon]

nice

[icy basin]

you're wrong

||daddy fire|| clearly belongs in top tier

cuz ||he's literally hot||

[native turret]

I would like to add

[sudden plover]

Savage beast fly so hard I beat the final boss for practice

Like that's not even a joke I was stuck on savage beast fly 2

Gave up

Beat the game

Beat savage beast fly immediately

[icy basin]

||bell eater|| is NOT a dog

[native turret]

its a bad dog

[icy basin]

its more like a wolf that tries to eat your dog

wait wolves are untamed dogs

nvm

[native turret]

its a bad doggy that fights with other dogs and steals their stuff

[sudden plover]

Coyote

[clever furnace]

more steel souling yippee

[icy basin]

gl

[clever furnace]

anyone else get a huge dopamine hit when getting a spool extension
the way the fragments hit and then reverb when combining is sooo good

anyway, clawline time

[clever furnace]

Are you really using barbs on steel soul?!!?! -Lotus

[tawdry osprey]

trust its op

[clever furnace]

No -Lotus

yes I'm deadass using barbed on steel soul

[hardy jolt]

peak

[clever furnace]

it synergizes with hunter which is all about not getting hit

damage + damage, the math solves itself

[tawdry osprey]

math is mathing

[clever furnace]

the faster the bad guy dies, the less opportunities they have to damage you

aight, going directly for faydown cloak now

[clever furnace]

Good luck bud -Lotus

am doing just fine, long as I don't facetank twice and lose the fractured mask

Thats true -Lotus

Fractured mask is goated -Lotus

[void prawn]

Crust king khann was lowkey a good boss fight

[clever furnace]

It was -Lotus

Somehow beat it first try -Lotus

[void prawn]

Took me two trys

Coral tower was the only hard part about it

[clever furnace]

It was -Lotus

Coral tower was really fun -Lotus

Really wish we had an actuall coral region though -Lotus

[clever furnace]

I use fractured as a bell ring that am getting too hot with damage and as a way to not instantly lose to a double hit when at 4 masks
with multibinder, I can also heal to 5 masks and then make my way to a bench

[void prawn]

Doesn't multibinder do four

[queen trench]

The repair parts for my controller just arrived! meaning I'll be able to silksong soon again! Not today though, I've got a whole lot more to do before actually reparing the controller so I'll do that tomorrow morning when I've got more time

[clever furnace]

when losing the fractured and being at 1

fuck I forgot

[queen trench]

oh I just realised that all silksong spoilers are allowed in here now, I should probably leave until I actually finished it in full

[clever furnace]

chat is this how weavers used to walk around

[tawdry osprey]

this is the correct way to walk

[mellow sigil]

it really is though
doesn't the weaver from hk scatters the exact same way

spi de y

[clever furnace]

omg no way, you can turn around and jump while scuttling

AND YOU CAN CLIMB WALLS LMFAO

[tawdry osprey]

Oh you didn’t know?

[clever furnace]

now I never used scuttlebrace before

hm, It kinda sucks that it removes the ability to dash downward

hm I'm quite puzzled with scuttebrace
I saw this video of parrying attacks that are only possible with scuttlebrace and found it very epic
now am not gonna be tryna be fancy in steel soul, but it could genuinely be good at very quickly reposition and keep the pressure on

On the other hand, I gotta trade the silkspeed anklets and down dash for a movement that I'm unfamiliar with
which is suboptimal to say the least

Skuttlebrace seems more just fun than usefull -Lotus

Has skuttlebrace ever even helped anyone? -Lotus

[oak swift]

They are very high yeah

OH YEAH, IM SO HAPPY CROSS STITCH IS GETTING BUFFED

Sad that to get buffed it needed the blood of thread storm but hey you reap what you sow idk

Parry for life!

[full vale]

sigh

chat

so I really like silksong right?

so I decided to get some clay and honor it right

Is this how hornet looks like? Is this how she looks like? Spare me of my suffering and haunt me already.

(idk if this is the place to post this)

[hardy jolt]

PEAK

[clever furnace]

I love it lol -Lotus

[full vale]

TRUE

why isn't this her sprite team cherry?

I'm very dissapointed in you

[hardy jolt]

they should replace the hornet statuette with your masterpiece

[clever furnace]

Honestly, that looks so good the statuette is just shameful in comparosin -Lotus

I might as well break it for shards -Lotus

[hardy jolt]

[full vale]

ik right?

i mean what is there of bad about her?

her legs are uh.... perfect, probably

her eyes? completely straight trust me

[clever furnace]

absolute perfection, it's exactly how I imagine hornet would look irl
it's like she's standing right in front of me when I look at this

[split sluice]

Un torments the error

[hardy jolt]

❌ ❌ ❌

[split sluice]

Also kills trobbio

[hardy jolt]

NO

[clever furnace]

WHY ISNT THE GIFF WORKING@OIJR@)#IORFJW

Whaterver -Lotus

[hardy jolt]

TRRROOBIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo

bleh

[void prawn]

Are you ok

[tawdry osprey]

trotro

[native turret]

trrrrroooobbiiioooooooooooo

thank you TC for bringing this little guy into our lives

[void prawn]

Trio big

Ttoobio

[void prawn]

Trobbio with silk spear is wild

Oh yay I spelled tro IBO right

.

[clever furnace]

I did trobbio with silkspear -Lotus

[void prawn]

I just like

Don't even use silkskills half the time

[tawdry osprey]

i love trobbio

[clever furnace]

Same -Lotus

[void prawn]

Gr

[tawdry osprey]

whats wrong...

[void prawn]

I smacked trobbio

[clever furnace]

steelsoul lost
by the forebrothers

10 hours

[native turret]

sobbing

[clever furnace]

Fun 💀 -Lotus

[clever furnace]

rip

[glad stratus]

how the hell i get this bitch

[tawdry osprey]

bell beast

[glad stratus]

what

[tawdry osprey]

bell... station?

go under the right platform

[clever furnace]

parkour zone behind the bell station

[glad stratus]

i think this is my last flea, how do I get it

[tawdry osprey]

greymoor top left

you would never believe it

but its greymoor top left

[clever furnace]

WHY??!?!!??! -Lotus

[tawdry osprey]

huh why what

[clever furnace]

Why is it greymoor, thats so stupid lol -lotus

[tawdry osprey]

this one flea literally gets harder by having the map

somehow

[vocal canyon]

Well they had to make people go there somehow

[tawdry osprey]

it just baits you into thinking its underworks

[dim harbor]

Ah that area

Last place i found

[clever furnace]

There is just something so cool about steel soul

The stakes feel so high -Lotus