Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[distant holly]

a secret boss

[mellow sigil]

oughguh gonna spoiler it than

[distant holly]

why not just fight phantom

i don’t like when bosses summon minions

except ||crawfather, that was fine for some reason||

[wide ledge]

hes goated thats why

[mellow sigil]

only fight I dont really like is ||voided Garmond|| probs

[distant holly]

||watcher felt like just a normal enemy from the coral tower but with high hp||

[barren ingot]

||that one was more or less just Void Attacks Only, yea?||

[void prawn]

Where does one fight the second sentinel and that chungus

[mellow sigil]

every time you say ||"watcher"|| I get scared

[mellow sigil]

you need a quest for Senti but I forgor which one and how do you get it

and the fat chungus is in lower right of cogwork core

theres like. A room

[void prawn]

Ok uh holdup lemme mark the chungus location

Also ik the quest for sentinel but where

[clever furnace]

activate second sentinel
help them fight enemies in choral chambers twice
accept their wish in songclave wishwall

[gleaming badger]

LETSS GOO UNSPOILERED CONTENT

[distant holly]

songclave

[wide ledge]

everybody dies in act 4

[distant holly]

where else

[mellow sigil]

Sentis wish is in songclave

[distant holly]

[clever furnace]

yippe the 10 people talking silksong can do so for free

[mellow sigil]

theres silk in silksong

[void prawn]

Which act

[mellow sigil]

and song

[hardy jolt]

zote teams up with mr mushroom in act 5

[void prawn]

I didn't find it

[gleaming badger]

zote writes another 57 precepts for the sequel

[wide ledge]

i had to pay before 💔

[mellow sigil]

#1407386303796088832 message did you do thiss???

[sudden plover]

||is it normal to have only 7 masks by the final boss?||

[distant holly]

what if we got zote game instead of hornet

[void prawn]

Ohhhhhhhh so sentinel is an NPC

I thought he was a boss or sum

[distant holly]

[clever furnace]

ye fragments are pretty hidden

[gleaming badger]

if youre speedrunning yeah, but theres a few more you can get

[mellow sigil]

well they are a boss...... when you fight them

[mellow sigil]

its normal but probs better to gather more if you're fighting for the first time

[void prawn]

Any tips for father of flame

[mellow sigil]

||you can get up to 9 in act 2||

[sudden plover]

||also I think I completely missed bilewater||

[wide ledge]

pogo

[mellow sigil]

POGO🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[distant holly]

thread storm can destroy lanterns

[mellow sigil]

biwater coo l

find

YES

DONT ❌ ME

[clever furnace]

keep pogoing, and when about to be attacked by a wisp, consider whether a double jump or to drop off is more likely to dodge

[sudden plover]

Where

[clever furnace]

silk is impossible to get in the boss fight, either carry some from the burning bugs in the runback or plan your strat around silklessness

[mellow sigil]

I forgor

[distant holly]

volt vessels are probably the only useful tool here, it can reach lower left lantern and the main thing in the second phase

[mellow sigil]

above sinners road aandddd uhh

can you get into it anyhow else.....

oh no

[mellow sigil]

the entrance is in Sinner's Road

its actually technically act 1 conten

[clever furnace]

yea

only cling grip's needed to reach sinner's

[distant holly]

like three rooms or something

[mellow sigil]

its still something!!!

[void prawn]

Or cocoons

[distant holly]

or druid’s eye

[clever furnace]

man druid's eye is so irrelevant I forgot about it lol

[gleaming badger]

honestly my tip is just learn how the flame ai works, it curves around you as it runs towards you like the soul projectiles in hollow knight

[opaque shard]

Rate my art 🔥

[distant holly]

there is an upgrade

[void prawn]

How.

[wide ledge]

the hell is druids eye

[serene oxide]

wait

[clever furnace]

still irrelevant kek
but I am a barbed bracelet user so that's why

[serene oxide]

i can freely mention ANY part of silksong?

[distant holly]

bring more moss berries

[final sky]

cause i like last judge more it feels more rewarding

[opaque shard]

No you have to soil everything

[mellow sigil]

like, the first ever tool you get?? haha

from the druid

[wide ledge]

oh yeha

grubsong

[clever furnace]

I LOVE STRAIGHT SHIPS 🔥

[final sky]

idk why everyone tells me to go fight phantom like i get it

[gleaming badger]

hollow knight fan still serves tools the old fashioned way heartwarming

[final sky]

its faster

[clever furnace]

and how could you not love that guy

[mellow sigil]

real I love rhe Last Judge fight

[wide ledge]

stynx is my Goat

[mellow sigil]

never going to phantom🔥🔥🔥

[final sky]

but im not going for faster for best expereince with steel soul

i want to be challenged

[mellow sigil]

they're too easy anyway🙄

[clever furnace]

yes, remove start lag for every attack she does

now she's a real challenge

[wide ledge]

judge runback wasnt even that hard

[distant holly]

use barded bracelet then

[final sky]

i love this game too much to cheese it

[final sky]

no that sucks

[final sky]

magma bell and warding

[clever furnace]

cheese? you're literally shooting urself in the foot with barbed

[gleaming badger]

wtf is this

[final sky]

also can you guys stop telling me how to play the game smiles

[wide ledge]

peak entertainment

[gleaming badger]

true

this will be touhou in 2026

[final sky]

kindly thank you

[clever furnace]

no you'll play the game MY WAY ‼️

[serene oxide]

@mental shuttle act 3

[clever furnace]

(ok no more tips for u \🙂)

[distant holly]

the officially endorsed by rain world discord way

[opaque shard]

Pressing alt+f4 makes you win the game

[final sky]

thank you im sorry if i came off mean i just dont like being told how to play the game cause its just not fun for me

[distant holly]

putting cheese on your keyboard doesn’t in fact cheese the boss

[final sky]

sure i could take easier routes but thats not fun

ykwim

[opaque shard]

Wat

[opaque shard]

What does that even mean

[wide ledge]

you know what i mean

[final sky]

you know what i mean

[mellow sigil]

I think you should play the game THIS way:

1.close
2. open rain world

[wide ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395918127811788963/1420189179802816602/morgan-freeman-true-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[final sky]

nah rw is like not my favorite game

id rather play silksong

[mellow sigil]

heartbreaking

[wide ledge]

rain world is the only game ever

[final sky]

this game was ruined for me for lots of reasons

[mellow sigil]

YOU'RE ALSO A JOURNEY BTW

[final sky]

ngl i hate rain world because of downpour :)

[mellow sigil]

I dont like dp either but you can just disable and ignore it haha
or. Dont buy it in the first place

[final sky]

anyways i will be taking my leave from this chat cause i wanna focus on my steel soul run

[wide ledge]

im playing hollow knight it kinda sucks duuude

[opaque shard]

Skill issue

[serene oxide]

hk is fire

[wide ledge]

then why am i not burning?

smh.

[upbeat merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgyZ2Xti2dg&list=RDPgyZ2Xti2dg&start_radio=1

aw

[opaque shard]

Lmao

[clever furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgyZ2Xti2dg

[serene oxide]

is this the silk song

[opaque shard]

No

[serene oxide]

arey ousure

[opaque shard]

Yeah

[dim harbor]

for the speedrun achivment around what time should i have at widow?

[opaque shard]

No idea maybe 30-40 min

[dim harbor]

dam

this achivment might be much harder then it seemed

[opaque shard]

Theres a sister splinter skip if you didnt know

[wide ledge]

i was at like 2 hours when i got to widow 💔

[dim harbor]

i did know of it, and i did use it, but shes also not hard

[dim harbor]

i am at 1.5 hours

post widow if i do good

[opaque shard]

I think I got 5 fleas and skipped like 4 bosses in my speedrun lol

[dim harbor]

i ah

i probably should have looked at the speedruning route

[wide ledge]

it was a completely me issue because i got the wanderers crest and decided to do both big big ant fights without a dash

[opaque shard]

Cling grip before drifters cloak 🔥

[dim harbor]

i would love to get reapers crest, cause i am very used to it, but would take a bit of time

i am also thinking of taking phantom route instead

[opaque shard]

Yeah I think thats the speedrun route

[dim harbor]

makes sense, it comes out close to songclave and such

[wide ledge]

and it took me 70 thousand years to get out of the mist

[dim harbor]

i quite quickly got what needed to be done

[serene oxide]

i just noticed that the caretaker in songclave makes noises when he wants to say something to you

this game is so well thought out

[wide ledge]

oi

[mellow sigil]

OOOIIII OOOOOIIII OOOOIIIIII OOOIIIIIII

I always ignore him on purpose

[wide ledge]

was it hallownest or hollownest

[clever furnace]

chat why is bilewater ost so peak

[drowsy ginkgo]

cuz bilewater is peak

[tawdry osprey]

so it makes it that people dont completely hate it

compensates awful gameplay with peak ost

[dim harbor]

hallownest apparently, i thought it was hollownest tbh

[slim fjord]

more autotune than actual tunes in this silk song 🔥

[serene oxide]

hollownest would be a very depressing name for a higher being's kingdom

[dim harbor]

tbf its pale king, but fair enough

and thats kinda hes thing, making hollow beings

[serene oxide]

that was a bit later in his career

[dim harbor]

true

[clever furnace]

chat opinions on automatic blocking by bosses like karmelita

[serene oxide]

annoying

[dim harbor]

a bit annoying, but i didn t find it that bad personally, just some of them dodge too much

[wide ledge]

soul sanctum or city of tears chat

[drowsy ginkgo]

city of tears all the way

[serene oxide]

before learning what Hallow meant i also thought it's hollownest

[wide ledge]

terrari

[void prawn]

Wait what does hallow mean

[serene oxide]

essentially similar to Holy

iirc

[slim fjord]

good

[clever furnace]

how could 4 letters be so wrong

[slim fjord]

it makes it a tiny bit harder but i think its good

cause otherwise you could Beast Crest + Flea Brew + Flintslate + Pollip Pouch and mash X to win

[hardy jolt]

what does that mean

[slim fjord]

~~you still can ~~

[dim harbor]

i assume when the boss does a block or parry so you slash but they take no damage

[hardy jolt]

oh

[dim harbor]

karmelita does that quite a bit, its not a parry but she blocks attacks

[hardy jolt]

i dont remember karmelita blocking

maybe i just didnt conciously think about it

i dont have any problems with it

[dim harbor]

yeah thats fair

i only realised when i thought about it now

i get more annoyed when they just teleport away like a certain sinner

[hardy jolt]

true

first sinner teleports almost as much as soul master

[dim harbor]

she teleports way more

[hardy jolt]

wait is first sinner a guy

[dim harbor]

soul master atleast stays mostly in place, first sinner just felt like a sans fight, i hit her as often as she hits me, which ain t that often (joking i did not get hit that much, but she dodges a lot)

i think its a she

[split sluice]

Karmelita is peak so peam

[split sluice]

First sinner is a weaver in full, who are all female.

Which kinda makes me wonder, could (theoretically) a partial weaver be male?

@hardy jolt I just realized something about the singsong release trailer

[hardy jolt]

ye?

[split sluice]

We were blind

[hardy jolt]

[split sluice]

The abyss ambient drone is present right at the end

Along with void particles

[hardy jolt]

oh wait can i have a pic

[split sluice]

They put it right in our faces and we never noticed

[hardy jolt]

oh that

true i guess

[clever furnace]

What about a transmasc weaver -Wren

[split sluice]

They had to come out in a different kingdom because pharloom is transphobic (/jilly)

[clever furnace]

Does Grand Mother Silk support trans rights???? -Wren

[split sluice]

Probably not
You know who would though?
The Pale King
Glory to the eternal kingdom Hallownest

[clever furnace]

Honestly,
Void
Void doesnt care what you are
It just makes you void -Wren

[split sluice]

True

This is proof that the Pale King supports trans rights

[clever furnace]

Is he a weaver though? -Wren

[split sluice]

He certainly looks similar to one

[wide ledge]

always bet on coral gorge dlc

[split sluice]

Ok new headcanon: The hunter is a Weaver in part that is separated enough from his weaver side that he lost the ability to produce silk

[wide ledge]

he lost his mask and began hunting

[clever furnace]

Thats what testosterone does to a weaver -Wren

[clever furnace]

[split sluice]

Hornet’s default crest is Hunter
HMMMMMMM

I do think if he is one, hunter would have to be a weaver in part, he only has four limbs compared to the Weaver’s standard six

[clever furnace]

Again, thats just what hrt does to a weaver /silly -Wren

[split sluice]

Pale king supports HRT, after all 99.9999999999999% of his children have a non-traditional gender identity

[broken plover]

I love how dramatic trobbio is in his "Death" cutscene

[digital robin]

TrobbioooOoooOo!

[clever furnace]

hello

hi hello

[digital robin]

Hi Danny

[clever furnace]

i retrieved my old account

i am eat soup @serene oxide

i thought i deleted this one

anyway

[clever furnace]

hi mCool

@barren ingot not the topic of the server but can I get the survivor role since my other account already has it

topic of the thread

not server

^-^

[barren ingot]

make a modmail about it and someone can get it sorted out 👻
(asking mostly because only admins can transfer EXP and I'd ideally like to get that done as well if it's a permanent move)

[gray horizon]

hoblin the hastily named goblin

[digital robin]

Any reason you ask in this thread in particular? XD

[clever furnace]

less active than offtopic genderal

and i have been active on this thread specifically for so long that asking somewhere else didn't cross my mind

[clever furnace]

how do i make a modmail

[barren ingot]

just send a message to @unkempt elbow

[clever furnace]

oh oke

I'll do that

someday

[mental shuttle]

Kills you

[wise monolith]

skong

[broken plover]

Dont kill people that kills people how could you

[mental shuttle]

Ime evli

[broken plover]

Yoyr a big meanie that's what yoy are

[wide ledge]

I really enjoy

the fights that feel like it's unfair to use tools

when you gotta show your True Skill with your nail

like seth

or shakra

idk

lace

also comes from the fact that they're hard as hell and my shards run out and I don't want to get any more

[mental shuttle]

I dont use tools because I forget ❤️

[sudden plover]

[act 2 final boss spoilers] ||WHY DOES SHE DO THREE MASKS WITH THAT ATTACK WHAT THE FUCK||

[wide ledge]

bored

[lilac temple]

how did you get hit by that

also what thats not that bad

its like a teaser for the next act tbh

[wide ledge]

yeah every enemy deals 4 masks next act

[drowsy ginkgo]

whats a good rosary farm spot in act 3?

[quiet sentinel]

oh hell no

so long as it doesnt summon those shit bilewater enemies it might be fight

[sudden plover]

Act 2 ending

||PLEASE TELL ME I GET TO KEEP THE GMS CREST PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE||

Act 2 ending

||Y'all lied where's the act three I was just given credits||

[wooden sun]

||You're going to have to give up on wanting that GMS crest and get some aid from some of the people around Pharloom||

[sudden plover]

||do I have to like, refight GMS for act 3 or smth||

[clever furnace]

hornet's wings upon getting the faydown cloak are so majestic...

like, look at this shit it's so awesome https://x.com/pointless511/status/1965171909840265439

一般路过 (@pointless511)

Faydown cloak
#Silksong #Silksongfanart

X · Sep 8, 2025, 9:54 PM

[quiet sentinel]

awoo :3

[cobalt ivy]

Idk if this is a hot take or not, but using red tools to defeat the bosses is kinda lame and mickey
I used wanderers crest for almost all of the bosses (I cheesed the two big red guys in the arena okay they were annoying) and it was way more rewarding and fun. People who use the architect crest confuse me because like what is the fun in spamming cogflies and tacks, other than for the temporary “haha I’m shredding this boss” feeling 💔

[quiet sentinel]

Me when I use game mechanics to my advantage

I see no issues in playing however people please

You should be less concerned

[wide ledge]

if only 💔 team cherry wasn't malicious and evil

god I really wanted it

[void prawn]

I beat phantom with a stick

[split sluice]

You have to fight Groal the Pale for it

[wide ledge]

now with every hk spell

[hollow laurel]

groal deviously using his terrible movement just so he can use desolate dive and doing 3 masks of damage:

[split sluice]

And also pale nails since he’s now a pale being

[clever furnace]

havent opened up silksong in quite a while but got the speedrun first try

[split sluice]

Yeah it’s actually not bad at all if you route properly

[clever furnace]

i was worried about the high halls arena but it wasnt as bad as i remembered

[split sluice]

It was one of my two biggest roadblocks, the other one being the mist

The mist was kinda a shitshow for me since I did it lategame on my first playthrough

[quiet sentinel]

congrats snowy

[split sluice]

Ough talking about the mist makes me remember I want an extremely buffed version of Phantom

[broken plover]

The fact theres like one enemy thst just shouts out "gay" upon death took me off guard

This is said fella who says it in low quality form

[split sluice]

He knew about the doomed yaoi…

@wise monolith groal time

[wise monolith]

NO

NOT GROAL

[split sluice]

Putrified ducts is open still (pale lake is not available)

[wise monolith]

why is pale lake closed

[split sluice]

Because putrified ducts

[wise monolith]

:(

[split sluice]

Fun fact: bilewater is a good area

[wide ledge]

facts Are supposed to be true

[opal totem]

It's true I fact checked

[split sluice]

I do find it interesting how the thoughts about bilewater have changed

[wide ledge]

ill still hate it but

i lied there's no but

[split sluice]

Covers you in maggots

[wide ledge]

i didnt find the entire ducts until after bilewater

the arena before groal did became easy

but hitting his ass is painful

I had 💔💔💔 no tools

[opal totem]

I started having fun with groal when I stopped greeding

[hardy jolt]

TROBBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOo

[wide ledge]

trobbio unfortunately ain't allat

he needs more aura 💔💔💔

comparing tormented trobbio to nkg is EVIL he don't got that much hype moments and aura on him

[hardy jolt]

okay i agree that trobbio got less aura than nkg but dont disrespect my boy

trobbio still peak

[opal totem]

Peak overlapping attacks in second fight

[quiet sentinel]

[hardy jolt]

wruuf :3

[quiet sentinel]

wruffffff :3

[broken plover]

Is there a lore reason for the Singular Cowardly Husk in luriens Chamber in hollow knight

[wooden sun]

That was Lurien's Assistant

You could Dream Nail them for unique dialogue saying they would look over their master

[broken plover]

Well now I feel Bad killing that poor Husk

[wooden sun]

He had it coming, I needed those soul points

[quiet sentinel]

Finally starting my like 11th steel soul 100% attempt

[hardy jolt]

gl

[clever furnace]

fml why do I play this mode

3 quits on low health, what am I doing
I don't even have barbed yet

I am restarting, the burden of the quits is too much for me
Literally nobody cares, but I do, I think it's avoiding the point of steel soul so I'll consider myself defeated and move on

o7 to steel soul attempt number idfk

steel soul is no place to be fumbling around
one try or nothing, I keep forgetting that

[quiet sentinel]

Yea, if I just used quit scumming I'd have beaten the mode a while ago now :3 But I wanna prove to myself I can do it

[wooden sun]

I'm waiting for them to release a boss rush so I can get better at the bosses before dealing with steel soul

[quiet sentinel]

Use the godhome mod

That's what I did before starting my attempts

[wooden sun]

You can't make me! (I refuse to mod most of the games I play)

[quiet sentinel]

no worries :3

Apparently there's a way to hit the explosives above prematurely by pogoing but I can't figure out how so instead we just hide above the boss x3

[clever furnace]

perfectly cut before the 3 damage to the face lmao

[quiet sentinel]

yep

1 mask gaming scary

surely this will be fine clueless

its weird that you can only double pogo in phase 2 but i swear the momentum is exactly the same when he dives

okay playing aggressive is scary LMAO i need to chill

actually no the correct answer is i need more masks to be more aggressive

[void prawn]

Ya know how you're supposed to blow fourth chorus up?

[quiet sentinel]

i mean youre not "supposed" to its just heavily implied

you can just kill them normally if you want

There is no correct way of doing things!

[void prawn]

Yeah I didn't know you could

I just fought on in a smaller arena

[dim harbor]

Its so hard to not play aggressivly the second time

[wide ledge]

It's so hard to not play aggressively the First time

[opal totem]

True

It gets easier when you realize that's why you've been stuck on some bosses on first playthrough

[midnight minnow]

Can agree

Sometimes aggression can pay off
Learned it the hard way
Especially against that one ant boss

[sudden plover]

Silksong players when falling in lava hurts more than a guy with a dagger (that's a bad thing):

[dim harbor]

True, taking it slower is good for many bosses they can outlast you sadly, also not being fancy with some things helps

[sudden plover]

This... Isn't how people normally play?

I guess I'm naturally aggressive with it

[quiet sentinel]

can we please not downplay my gameplay i felt cool

[wide ledge]

it's kinda funny playing hollow knight and looking at enemies that may have done 2 mask damage in silksong that do 1

[wooden sun]

The Knight is simply built different

[opal totem]

I kinda miss double damage from sand worms

[quiet sentinel]

why :(

[opal totem]

It had the right vibe

[dim harbor]

Double damage from hazards was brutal, but made me more careful

[opal totem]

I feel like most of the double damage in the game is vibe based

Tons of worms doing more damage than just some spike makes sense

[quiet sentinel]

It was at the cost of player experience

So it makes sense

Majority of people felt it was too rough same reason why moorwing got slapped with nerfs ect

I don't mind either

[dim harbor]

Moorwing was a bit annoying.
I don t think it was necessarily but i don t mind it

[sudden plover]

Act 2 ending (first/"normal" ending) major spoilers

||So like, what happens to hornet after the weaver queen ending? Is she just trapped in a cocoon for God knows how long?||

[quiet sentinel]

She becomes what the weavers wanted - a weaver queen

Did you miss the whole story

Weavers rebel against gms cause they can't accept she made them and instead wanted to be the ones in control

And hornet does what every other weaver that ran off to hide couldnt

The entire citadel and her trapped in silk is their doing

When we play the game gms is waking up from the weaversong-cursed sleep and tries to stop you from getting to her

[sudden plover]

Yes but like

What happens?

I know she becomes a queen but

Like

What happens to her after? Is she stuck there for God knows however long?

[quiet sentinel]

thats up to your own interpretation

its implied in red memory that hornet remembers her mom telling hornet not ro care about what the weavers want

so she probably fucks off after binding gms or becomes the new rulee

imo she just leaves

cause if you try to leave at the exit below blasted steps she only refuses to because she wants to slay gms first

so yea, she probably just fucks off

[opal totem]

Probably not

[quiet sentinel]

like i said its up to interpretation

[wide ledge]

silksong dies forever in the ending yeah

[sudden plover]

Imo it seems like she's stuck in the cocoon like GMS was

So I imagine she just takes a few hundred year nap and wakes up feeling like when you pass the fuck out at 2pm (aka she has no idea what the fuck is happening, what planet she's on, what decade it is, you get it.)

[wide ledge]

in all endings

yeah

[quiet sentinel]

gms was only stuck because she was put to sleep

she literally breaks free once hornet challenges her

[sudden plover]

Yeah but hornet is going through some kind of metamorphosis or smth in the cutscene

She probably needs a ton of time to do that (considering how much power she absorbed from GMS)

So she prolly gonna be eepy for a few decades

[quiet sentinel]

Yes, gms silk elevates creatures

It just elevated her weaver part

That's not how the sleep works either

[sudden plover]

Hornet wakes up looking exactly like her mother

[sudden plover]

I just imagine hornets in that cocoon for a decent amount of time

Could be anywhere from a few months to 400 years idk

[quiet sentinel]

I think you should go read some lore tablets

[sudden plover]

Which ones tho

How helpful

[quiet sentinel]

Specifically weaverden and weaverharp ones

(weaverharp are rhe ones underneath the ancestral binding spots, idk what else to call them, you can play your needolin at them to show their true nature)

[sudden plover]

You mean the statues right? The ones that give you skills?

Idk that's all I can think of from "binding spot"

[unreal hedge]

solution: do not use fandom

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/First_Sinner

[clever furnace]

evil laughter

[sudden plover]

Fandom is straight ass

Aren't like half of their wikis unofficial and unauthorized?

[distant holly]

hornet can’t leave

that’s why it’s a bad ending

and why hornet tries to avoid it

[sudden plover]

Does she like

Not have arms?

Where they at?

Lmao I googled "first sinner" and the Google summary thing talked about Adam from the Bible but the info video was a first sinner boss video

[unreal hedge]

i think they're just short

they're very much used as arms in the fight

except with way longer range somehow

[quiet sentinel]

Yes, underneath each one is a harp

[sudden plover]

You mean those little stumps are her arms?

[quiet sentinel]

If you watch the cutscene yes they are

[distant holly]

i thought everybody noticed it

it’s like the first thing i noticed after the trailer itself

[distant holly]

it’s pretty traditional in hallownest

[distant holly]

does ||first sinner|| count

[wide ledge]

yeah

[distant holly]

you are kinda at disadvantage from using tools

since the checkpoint

[distant holly]

wait does it mean technically hornet’s dream is real now . i was reading hunter’s journal and there was a note where hornet mentioned wanting wings as a child

[distant holly]

did they fix the fact that this fight doesn’t lock you in the room

[opal totem]

Do you think they'll fix voltvessel skips

[distant holly]

worse: half of the wikis were official but left, and their husks remain unmoderated

[distant holly]

there are?

[opal totem]

You can skip the entirety of bilewater with it

[distant holly]

[opal totem]

And surface climb but that's less relevant

[mental shuttle]

YOU CAN SKIP GROAL

[distant holly]

why did they put an enemy arena before groal

[mental shuttle]

I love this information

[distant holly]

💔

[mental shuttle]

Bilewater is evil deepnest

[wide ledge]

that'd mean it'd be good

[distant holly]

||beating seth in flea minigames is the hardest thing in game||

[opal totem]

It is good

[mental shuttle]

Theyre both peak game design wdym

[distant holly]

except steel soul

[opal totem]

I said before first trying juggle high score

Two others are easy

[wide ledge]

I'm NOT getting that memento ✌️🥀

[distant holly]

dodge is evil

[opal totem]

There's no dodge

[mental shuttle]

I somehow got 100 (without seth)

[opal totem]

There's bounce and bounce 2

[mental shuttle]

For dodge

[opal totem]

I got 120 on dodge on my steel soul save

[mental shuttle]

Imagine the fleas kill you on steel soul ❤️

[opal totem]

True

[distant holly]

despite silksong being harder than hollow knight, somehow there wasn’t anything stopping me from getting 100% and all optional stuff (i still didn’t beat the final boss though )

[wide ledge]

metal helmets with SPIKES

it's golden

is it gold helmets

copper helmets

[mental shuttle]

Copper wire

[distant holly]

there were like, path of pain, nightmare king grimm, pantheon 4, trial of fool

[opal totem]

All of those are dlcs

[mental shuttle]

PoP isnt needed for 112%...

[opal totem]

Silksong doesn't have dlcs

Yet

[wide ledge]

the fleas know metallurgy maybe they can build a good citadel

[distant holly]

trial of fool isn’t

[distant holly]

for 100% hunter journal though

[mental shuttle]

No

Its an extra

[opal totem]

The whole colosseum thing always felt like a dlc for me

[wide ledge]

there's a lot of not needed stuff

[distant holly]

true 100%

[mental shuttle]

Similar to mementos

[wide ledge]

I love that bosses don't give percentages in silksong

for no reason its kinda funny

[mental shuttle]

Groal...

[distant holly]

the only thing i missed is garmond and zaza duel, i ain’t replaying the game for it 💔

[opal totem]

Why not

Game fun

[distant holly]

i got all mementos, it would be hard to do it again

[wide ledge]

game can only be fun if you install my cool mod that makes every hit deal 100 masks of damage

[opal totem]

Only hard one is guardian's imo

[mental shuttle]

Yeagh

[opal totem]

Also on replay you can get a cooler memento heart

[wide ledge]

I kinda want to complete the

hunter journal but I'm lazy as hell

time to grind that instakill double lost sinner

[distant holly]

hornet just keep a random heart on the shelf

[opal totem]

Some of hunter's journal kill counts feel poorly balanced

[distant holly]

why did hornet put wingmould into pharloom creatures journal

[mental shuttle]

Its completely possible to miss that entry

And lock you out of hunter completion

[wide ledge]

It hurts my soul when people say that hornet got through the path of pain with that red memory part as if white palace didn't exist

[distant holly]

most of ||judges aren’t here in act 3, so i had to go back to bench after each 1||

[wide ledge]

white palace is my goat and I'll forever love it

[distant holly]

[mental shuttle]

White palace one of my favourite areas in both games

[distant holly]

well you usually would pogo on them to complete

[opal totem]

At least more than one of them exist in the world at a time

[distant holly]

the parkour

yeah

two of them

and it would be longer

[opal totem]

Meanwhile one bug in the slab you have to kill like 8 of

[distant holly]

[distant holly]

at least it’s a bit closer

[mental shuttle]

Which one

[distant holly]

there is also that shell shard mimic

[opal totem]

Puny penitent

[mental shuttle]

Wuh

Show me

[opal totem]

No

[distant holly]

hornet literally lived in the white palace

[opal totem]

There's also elder pilgrim that exists only in one spot and only with about 50% chance

[distant holly]

[mental shuttle]

Wait I swear I killed one of these

Why isnt it in my journal

[opal totem]

Yeah why

Pretty sure they were in an arena fight

[wide ledge]

mount fay is my favorite area in silksong because I suck insane ass at combat but not in parkour

and I love clawline

[distant holly]

that’s weird though

since all other missable entries are unlocked automatically if missed

[opal totem]

Not all

[wide ledge]

and it gives me double jump which makes everything so much better

[mental shuttle]

Mount fart

[wide ledge]

mount fart

[opal totem]

Palestag is missable

[mental shuttle]

Ones needed for 100%

[distant holly]

i meant required ones

[opal totem]

Is wingmould required?

Or what are we talking about

[distant holly]

yes

[mental shuttle]

Wingmoulds are required

[wide ledge]

crazy

[opal totem]

Is it possible to do that area without pogoing on them

[distant holly]

potentially

[mental shuttle]

Very easy to do so

[distant holly]

other missable entries are like enemies from ||elegy of the deep bosses|| and the mist

[mental shuttle]

They auto unlock

[distant holly]

yes

that’s what i mean

[opal totem]

Making them not missable

[distant holly]

those unlock after beating the boss

[mental shuttle]

But for some reason wingmoulds are

[wide ledge]

the hell is elegy of the deep I forgot

[opal totem]

Memories

[distant holly]

dreamnail

[quiet sentinel]

memory stuff auto unlocks

you can never miss memory entries

[opal totem]

Except palestag

[distant holly]

except wingmould apparently

[quiet sentinel]

arent you required to do it

or can you just entirely ignore it

[opal totem]

No

[distant holly]

no

[quiet sentinel]

why are both those messages crossed which one is it

[mental shuttle]

Wingmould doesnt

[weary stag]

you can skip palestag?

[wide ledge]

I thought it made the green prince house phase into existence

[distant holly]

it isn’t required

[quiet sentinel]

i thought it was required for that too lol

you collect the little orb things

[opal totem]

You just need enough memory thingies to unlock the boss, palestag isn't required for that

[distant holly]

you need to collect memory orbs

[mental shuttle]

You either do palesstag or find all the statues

[distant holly]

well it’s kinda along the usual path

[clever furnace]

journal entry though

[quiet sentinel]

did anyone test intentionally not doing it

[distant holly]

making it easy to think it’s required

[opal totem]

I didn't get palestag on my first playthrough

There was no entry

[mental shuttle]

Its a speedrun strat basically

[quiet sentinel]

so you couldnt get memento?

[distant holly]

no

[opal totem]

It's not required

[quiet sentinel]

????

[opal totem]

It's optional like duels

[quiet sentinel]

then who cares

[distant holly]

it is one of optionals

[quiet sentinel]

you had me thinking it was required

[dim harbor]

Leave my lovely lightning in a bottle be /silly

[clever furnace]

unlucky :<

[opaque shard]

Hello goob morming everybug

[distant holly]

i guess we’re getting lore info though

[clever furnace]

wait do i still have emoticons turn emojis on this account

🙂

GODDAMNIT

[mental shuttle]

Wingmould is missable which sucks

[clever furnace]

not really

[quiet sentinel]

are they required

[mental shuttle]

They are

[opal totem]

Kissable wingmoulds

[mental shuttle]

Sob

[quiet sentinel]

arent you forced to hit them with grapple

[opal totem]

That's why they're in the journal

Nuu totally would do that

[little ferry]

It's pretty easy to not miss them

[mental shuttle]

You can skip them quite easily

[quiet sentinel]

ill need to replay it and see if they actually are skippable

[distant holly]

pale king kissing wingmoulds good night

[quiet sentinel]

where do you get the silk to skip them lol

[mental shuttle]

Silk hearts

???

[opaque shard]

While he dumps another 100 children down the abyss

[clever furnace]

don't you have infinite silk in ||red dream||

[quiet sentinel]

is that enough to make it

[quiet sentinel]

oh

[mental shuttle]

Faty

[little ferry]

There is one jump where a first playthrough player will totally hit at least one

[quiet sentinel]

man one of you is lying

someone record skipping it then ill believe it

i swear the area is long enough to where its required

[clever furnace]

it just didn't show me any interface in there (iirc) so i assumed the silk isn't a problem

[mental shuttle]

I saw a post that someone missed the full entry

[opaque shard]

You sure its em?

[mental shuttle]

Like yeah you can hit some but if you dont get all 10

[opal totem]

Are you sure it wasn't a silkpost

[little ferry]

How

[clever furnace]

i clawlined through half the platforming

[quiet sentinel]

thats not enough proof and yes are you sure it was molds

[distant holly]

maybe it still has a cooldown

[mental shuttle]

Theres exactly 10 wingmoulds

[opaque shard]

Also dosent normally dream enemies give you the full journel when you exit it

[clever furnace]

they respawn anyway don't they

[distant holly]

you need multiple of them to unlock?

[mental shuttle]

Wingmoulds dont

[clever furnace]

or rather, don't die

[distant holly]

well they don’t die

[mental shuttle]

The full journal

[distant holly]

well i suppose it’s possible to miss one

[quiet sentinel]

what

i didnt go back and grind any and i got my memento

[opaque shard]

Silksong has a rewind feature yes?

someone copy their save and rewind there

I cant rn

[quiet sentinel]

LMAO i hate this thread

[opaque shard]

Lol

[mental shuttle]

Youd have to rewind so far 😭

[quiet sentinel]

everyone here is a liar until proven otherwise

[opaque shard]

Real

[distant holly]

silksong dies in the end

[opaque shard]

[opal totem]

True

[distant holly]

how could godhome dlc be possible if hornet doesn’t have a dreamnail?

[little ferry]

She's built different

[opaque shard]

Better than playing through that whole game just for a scene 😭

[little ferry]

She yells her way in

[wide ledge]

she goes to sleep for 10 years in order to beat every boss but again because why not

[clever furnace]

doesn't she basically have a dreamneedle

[distant holly]

funnily, hornet was in godhome, as a boss

[clever furnace]

and a talent to compose a song so bad it makes you fall asleep

[distant holly]

it’s unclear if dreams are the same realm as memories

[opaque shard]

Girl should keep that talent hidden 💔

[distant holly]

like there isn’t any particles in memories

[mental shuttle]

Glorthome

[opaque shard]

I mean theres spooder webs

[mental shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1095887232688197632/1320751414921662494/slugflyaway.gif

[clever furnace]

maybe it's just something weaver related

they don't have particles cuz

i dunno

[opal totem]

Why does it have to be exactly godhome

[mental shuttle]

Silksong attack!!!

[wide ledge]

DEVILhome

[opal totem]

I'm nearly sure it'll be something different

[clever furnace]

i also don't get how it would be exactly godhome

[opaque shard]

Silkhome

[mental shuttle]

Gorthone

[wide ledge]

another god seeker goes to pharloom right idk that's what they do right

the seek gods

[clever furnace]

if DNM is canon, why would godseeker go to Pharloom after

and if (god forbid) EtV is canon, HOW would they

[mental shuttle]

Godseeker is fucking dead 😭

[distant holly]

wait

[wide ledge]

is there only a single godseeker

[opal totem]

Like you have a thing that lets you enter memories and you have a hornet that has memories of all bosses she's fought, you really don't need godhome for that

[distant holly]

the knight enters void heart memory using dreamnail

[mental shuttle]

Backtracking 💔

[clever furnace]

can't Hornet just sit on a bench and go "man i remember the time i fought ___"

[wide ledge]

the bellhart shop owner gives you a console to replay the bosses you've beaten

[opaque shard]

Maybe you can visit hornets(like red memory) memories to fight em idk

[opal totem]

Maybe snail village is still real and it'll open the boss rush part of the game

[mental shuttle]

All the bosses are voided

[distant holly]

then there is no lore 💔

[opaque shard]

Maybe theres a secret 4th shaman lol

[distant holly]

those bosses are all fake

[clever furnace]

that won't happen

[distant holly]

in godhome all bosses are actually here

[opaque shard]

Ik

[distant holly]

well their mind

[mental shuttle]

5th*

[clever furnace]

TC loves the number three as much as Valve hates it

three dreamers

three shamans

three hearts

three silkhearts

three spells

[opaque shard]

Three fold song

[distant holly]

fifth*

[mental shuttle]

3 damage

[clever furnace]

three acts

[wide ledge]

three tools ever in the game

[opal totem]

Add some npc that gives you a reason why you should do that, problem solved

[opaque shard]

Three masks 💔

[mental shuttle]

3 farts

[distant holly]

real

[wide ledge]

cogfly, the whiteward bands, and multibinder

[mental shuttle]

Multi binder is ass 🥹

[opal totem]

If boss rush dlc doesn't include enemy arenas I'm uninstalling and refunding

[opaque shard]

Real

[clever furnace]

depends on the crest

[opaque shard]

Im still hoping for that coral forest

[mental shuttle]

I will actually die if they add arenas

[distant holly]

three mask bind

[opal totem]

You will die

[distant holly]

three silkposts

[wide ledge]

the pantheon of pharloom that contains all the bosses and enemies

[clever furnace]

three games (hopefully)

[mental shuttle]

Its supposed to be bossrush not Colosseum

[opaque shard]

Witch heal + multibinder + clawmirrors deal crazy damage

[opaque shard]

Zoteboat

[clever furnace]

i want HallownestTD

[quiet sentinel]

I checked and the wingmold autocompletes

Actual liars lol

this thread sucks

[opaque shard]

THATS WHAT I SAID

[mental shuttle]

Wait Darcy is that youy

[opaque shard]

[clever furnace]

yesp

[mental shuttle]

What happened

[clever furnace]

i found my old account

[mental shuttle]

Peam

[wide ledge]

Bloons TD if it was good I guess

[opal totem]

Could you check faster

[clever furnace]

and decided I'm not darcy anymore

[opal totem]

I just finished replaying red memory

[clever furnace]

after a bit of thinking

but that's unrelated to silksong

[wide ledge]

why did they name it silk and soul

[quiet sentinel]

😭 sorry

[mental shuttle]

Siking the song

[wide ledge]

team cherry is evil

[distant holly]

you couldn’t have an alt ending with this idea though, embrace the void is based on the fact radiance is actually in godhome, ||gms, lace, void or whatever won’t actually die if it’s a memory||

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[opal totem]

Don't have an alt ending then

Simple

[distant holly]

[opal totem]

It doesn't need to have that

[wide ledge]

embrace the void is for nerdssss

imagine beating pantheon 5??? smh

I haven't even beaten pantheon 3 and my save file is gone now forever!

[opaque shard]

Hornet ||dives deeper into the void and idk knight|| lets her refight bosses lol

[clever furnace]

etv is lame

and noncanon

[mental shuttle]

||Godhome ending|| is implied to be canon by silksong 💔

[distant holly]

because the game’s called hollow knight: silksoul

[opal totem]

Eh barely

[opaque shard]

There was the time I started playing p5 for the funsies

[clever furnace]

that was just fan service for people who wasted days of their life on p5

[wide ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395918127811788963/1420189179802816602/morgan-freeman-true-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[mental shuttle]

Are you stupid

[clever furnace]

I'm pretty clever

[mental shuttle]

No

We have previous evidence of this

[opaque shard]

Well team cherry said any endings for hk could be cannon.......

[clever furnace]

and NO "Sister of the Void" ending name is NOT a callback to "Embrace the Void" ending name

[opaque shard]

So sealed siblings the cannon one and silksongs a dream

[opal totem]

They silkposted

[wide ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395918127811788963/1420189179802816602/morgan-freeman-true-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[mental shuttle]

It seems like this was retconned

[wide ledge]

they made the three queens thing truly canon and I love that

[distant holly]

sealed siblings is canon but only for greyroot ending

[mental shuttle]

Care to explain

[opal totem]

More like when they said it they meant "don't make the sequel take away the canonicity of hk endings"

[opaque shard]

I think its still up to interpretation if DNM and EtV are the cannon ones

[distant holly]

i made it up

[clever furnace]

they should've made an ending where hornet stays in the black egg and the knight and THK run away to prank her

with the last semblance of THKs mind and will

[distant holly]

[wide ledge]

hollow knight zotesoul will uncanonize all previous endings

[distant holly]

the seal radiance in hornet as a prank

[mental shuttle]

It was all zotes dream

[opaque shard]

Hear me out everyone.........

[opal totem]

The next hollow knight game should continue off twisted child ending

[clever furnace]

all Zotes story to impress the dirtmouth bug

[opal totem]

That would be funny I think

[opaque shard]

GREY root
GREY prince zote

[distant holly]

[mental shuttle]

Pablo

[clever furnace]

GREYmoor

[wide ledge]

GREY

[mental shuttle]

Grey seems important

[opal totem]

Gandalf the Grey

[mental shuttle]

Fucked up and evil version of pale

[distant holly]

the next game continues after normal ending because team cherry decided bad ending should be canon

[opaque shard]

The knight is a pale savior child of the white lady
Zote is the grey prince child of the grey lady

[wide ledge]

they shouldve made evil hornet with a slightly grey head

[opal totem]

No evil hornet should have greyer cape color

[clever furnace]

they should've added a Nosk species boss to Petrified Ducts

[opal totem]

Just like in hk

[mental shuttle]

This shit laced

[clever furnace]

i think the towns in silksong were a little underwhelming

[wide ledge]

songclave could've been cooler I think

[opaque shard]

Fr they didnt add the poop snail village 💔

[clever furnace]

there's only one proper town and like four camps

and the town is one room

not a particularly large room either

[opal totem]

Why does she have different pin shape in game

Literally unplayable

[wide ledge]

she got a cane

[opal totem]

Real

[wide ledge]

little CHILD got back problems

[opaque shard]

They rushed the game smh

*pale child

[little ferry]

Old ahh child

[clever furnace]

why did she choose to wear a dumpling on her head

[mental shuttle]

Its the same??

[opal totem]

No

[opaque shard]

But officer shes 1000 years old!

[opal totem]

Hook shape is different

[distant holly]

well because they are

[mental shuttle]

Omg youre so pedantic 😭

[clever furnace]

matter of fact

[distant holly]

there is nowhere safe in pharloom

[clever furnace]

oh goddamnit I don't have image perms on this account

[opaque shard]

I think the one in the game screen looks diffrent

[clever furnace]

just look up "kokoshnik" guys

[wide ledge]

too lazy can they add the search function thing from TikTok in here

[opaque shard]

Ewwwww tiktok

[wide ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395918127811788963/1420189179802816602/morgan-freeman-true-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[clever furnace]

it's not that hard to spend 20 seconds on a search

[wide ledge]

anyways

[distant holly]

wait isn’t ||lace technically hornet’s aunt||

[clever furnace]

no

[little ferry]

How so

[wide ledge]

the waivers aren't really gms children you know

[opaque shard]

I dont think grand mother silk is actually hornets granma

[quiet sentinel]

they literally are

[little ferry]

She was made out of silk and Hornet is part weaver that's the only connection

[opal totem]

Adopted children are real children too

[clever furnace]

literally what lace wears

[little ferry]

If anything Hornet would be the aunt

[quiet sentinel]

did NOONE do first sinner

[clever furnace]

didn't expect PHARLOOM to be slavic

[distant holly]

they’re made from pharlids and silk

[quiet sentinel]

thank you

[opaque shard]

"She called us daughters SHE LIED"

[wide ledge]

I did with my eyes close my bad

[distant holly]

they kinda partially children of gms

[opal totem]

I mean that might as well be used as an argument why they're not her children

[quiet sentinel]

wdym

[opal totem]

It's like taking a dog and turning it into a human and calling it your child

[quiet sentinel]

oh

[wide ledge]

I can do that right now maybe

[clever furnace]

some people call dogs their children already anyway

[distant holly]

i mean maybe pharlids were like vessels for silk or something

[quiet sentinel]

me when the bug that uses silk uses silk:

[opaque shard]

Lemme look up their journl entry ig

[wide ledge]

I didn't get the rivalry between weavers and gms i can't read lore tablets I'm illiterate sorry

[clever furnace]

shouldn't every spider use silk

[distant holly]

i mean, maybe gms used pharlids as a base for silk creatures

[opaque shard]

nothing about em beign vessels

[wide ledge]

like gms, wanted to get the weavers to pharloom... right..

and they

[clever furnace]

did TC know about lacebugs when designing Lace

[wide ledge]

idk

[quiet sentinel]

after they rebelled and escaped

[opaque shard]

I think her names literal

[quiet sentinel]

bruh i cannot repeat this shit for the 10th time im sorry

go read the wiki

[wide ledge]

smh

the only tablet I remember is the one at bilewater secret bench

[clever furnace]

can every weaver bind a weaver ability?

[opal totem]

Groal is so real for that one

[opaque shard]

Ughhh "our hates eternal"?

[wide ledge]

their shells are ours 🗣️🗣️

[opaque shard]

Thats why we are married ❤️

[clever furnace]

no i think that's groal gang

kh

I can't read

[clever furnace]

nor write

[distant holly]

no i meant that what gms could use them for. using some existing creatures as a "vessel" for silk rather than creating a full silk child (like later lace)

[opaque shard]

Ohh I see

[opal totem]

I think she just chose random bug

Maybe she chose the species she thought will make better use of silk but I don't think it gets much deeper than that

[wide ledge]

okay google

[opaque shard]

Weavers captured her!?!!!

[clever furnace]

maybe she liked the look

[opal totem]

Peak game journalism

[opaque shard]

girl they are dead

[quiet sentinel]

so close to snailing it 🐌

[clever furnace]

WHAT is this ↑o↑

[opal totem]

It's what happens when people turn playing games into a job

[wide ledge]

hoooooly shit

[clever furnace]

ehehehehh

[distant holly]

lowkey a similar thing to vessels actually . they are pale beings with void added into them, while weavers are pharlids with gms’s silk

[wide ledge]

is pharlid what the original bug was called or is it a special thing

I was watching the first sinner cinematic with my brain turned off idk man

[distant holly]

but anyway, i think because of silk, it can be argued weavers are children of gms, partially

[opal totem]

Why were they so mad at her though

[wide ledge]

bored

[opal totem]

Is it really just like a kid finding out they're adopted

[opaque shard]

I think its cuz they werent her real kids lol

[quiet sentinel]

yes pretty much

[distant holly]

that’s first sinner

[clever furnace]

imagine realising you don't descend from a god

[opaque shard]

Gms: "Girls you all are adpoted"
Weaver:" omg how can you do that to us wtf we hate you"

[clever furnace]

after believing that for a long while

I'd be mad and my confidence would plummet

[opaque shard]

I think shes the first one to figure it out and rebelled thats why she got caged

[quiet sentinel]

i still dont understand why herrah looked like herrar when all the weavers clearly look about the same

herrah*

[tawdry osprey]

Is this silksong lore discussion

[wide ledge]

unfortunately

[opal totem]

I think Herrah had her weaver mask removed

She looks somewhat similar to widow

[clever furnace]

the queen can look however she wants

[opaque shard]

She also looks like a camel spider

Which arent really spiders

[clever furnace]

her design probably came before weaver designs

[quiet sentinel]

Oh yeah what's the deal with her btw, is widow like the golden child sucking up to her mom

[digital robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vUMmLlS-24

[opal totem]

Sounds about right

[clever furnace]

i wish there was a simple "switch accounts" button for discord

[opaque shard]

I think all the weaver rebelled while she didnt lol

[quiet sentinel]

the journal entry talks about pins in the back

which look like laces

so maybe she was just beat to submission

[opal totem]

Yeah

[quiet sentinel]

who wouldve thought there would be domestic abuse in silksong

(we'll ignore the vessel genocide)

[clever furnace]

Lace upscale

[opaque shard]

Pale king:

[digital robin]

[clever furnace]

huh

i have no idea where it is then

[digital robin]

bottom left

[opaque shard]

Widow got her ass whooped for arguing with her step mama