Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[quiet sentinel]

void

hornet is void

[woven basin]

Former

[opaque shard]

Hornet is voice

[digital robin]

voic

[quiet sentinel]

she is voyage

[opal totem]

Song even

[serene oxide]

hornet is a bee

obviously

besides, THK is described as weak by the White Lady @woven basin

[opaque shard]

I still think thk is stronger that hornet cuz yknow void

[serene oxide]

depends on the location where the battle would take place

[opaque shard]

Ig

[woven basin]

But yeah I don't think the shade lord means embrace the void is true just because there is more evidence that the shade lord was something before the pantheons then something made for them

[opaque shard]

Also thk is the weakened version pure vessel is far more stronger

[serene oxide]

TC should probably make a little demo with a remade Hornet fight

[digital robin]

Hornet after killing 100 siblings just to aurafarm on top of the Abyss for a while

[serene oxide]

making her use Silksong moves in Kingdom's Edge

[digital robin]

Keep in mind that is a super weakened HK, which has the Radiance power being syphon out of it

[serene oxide]

i need a fight where she literally just spams clawline against you

[opaque shard]

In their defense: they baby

[quiet sentinel]

play the pure vessel mod that turns it into an absolute beast

[opaque shard]

Nah what about cogflies w poison

[quiet sentinel]

its so silly

[woven basin]

Is anyone going to discuss with me):

[serene oxide]

lame

[serene oxide]

you're correct, there's nothing to discuss

[digital robin]

And Sinners heals

[woven basin]

Oh ok

[quiet sentinel]

the ending is anything you want it to be

[serene oxide]

on that note

[serene oxide]

what about chainsaws

buzzsaws*

[opaque shard]

*buzzshaws

[digital robin]

The true ending: You fall into the void lake because you forgot to turn on the Lighthouse and Radiance wins. Hornet just get captured and nobody saves Hallownest

THE END

[opaque shard]

Gonna share this with the mossbag server

[serene oxide]

is the Void communist

under the leadership of chairman Ghost

oh no wait it's literally a Lord

[digital robin]

It's like when you want to do something but you need to go to a family gattering. And you are just there like "Can I leave alread?"

[opaque shard]

Real

[serene oxide]

maybe it's just their surname

first name Shade

they're called shades in the Hunter's journal after all

what if you never open the door for sherma

[digital robin]

Shade is the species of black creatures made of pure void

and the Lord is obviously someone capable of commanding them with the voidheart

that is what the trinket lore is all about

"power without unity" says the shadecloack ¿creature? if dreamnailed

Voidheart is the unity

[serene oxide]

so they have to form a union to fight against the radiance?

[opaque shard]

Did you just join the mossbag server to discuss abou that

[woven basin]

Erm

Erm

Erm

Well you reminded me it existed and I felt like it because I like hk lore

[opal totem]

I thought devs confirmed hk has no lore

[woven basin]

They said they have a lore book also I don't care what the devs say they smell

[opal totem]

Devs said I shouldn't trust anyone who says they smell

[woven basin]

Well I say that they are wrong and they exploded

[quiet sentinel]

It has like small tidbits of confirmed stuff like through the wanderer journal and some reddit ama answers, and I think backers got a lore document, but it's very base stuff, everything else is up to a lot of interpretation and is usually backed by evidence

team cherry said that they dont like confirming stuff cause then it makes people who enjoy other theories enjoy them less

and they really like everyone having their own versions of the story for their games

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[quiet sentinel]

which i think is cool as fuck. and it also allows for cool video essays like mossbags videos

[opal totem]

I prefer puzzles

[quiet sentinel]

where he rambles on about a theory for 10 minutes

:3

[deft ether]

even by pure animal instincs ?

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[storm garnet]

endgame spoilers
||WHERE IN THE HEAVENS IS THIS LAST MASK SHARD||

[opaque shard]

||Blasted steps?||

[storm garnet]

already got that one 😭

[serene oxide]

deep docks arena maybe?

near marrow

[storm garnet]

for now I'm just gonna find unexplored areas on the map, I'll try to double check stuff too

[distant holly]

||sprintmaster?||

[storm garnet]

eureka, ||its in whispering vaults i think||

[distant holly]

||team cherry adding 10th mask into their 2 mask damage game||

[storm garnet]

ok that should be enough to compensate for my skill issue

[serene oxide]

there was enough even with nine masks

no difference anyway

[storm garnet]

nuh uh

trust

[distant holly]

the fact that the hero has masks while enemies have usual hp makes things quite funny.

hornet as a boss in hollow knight can take way more than 10 hits meaning knight’s attacks deal less than 1 mask damage .

on other hand, thread storm deal more than 200 damage, yet the knight takes 1 mask damage from it

silksong dlc where you fight the knight in greenpath and kingdom’s edge ||as memories in godhome equivalent||

[serene oxide]

why are you trying to conceal hornet's name

"the hero"

[distant holly]

because it’s both the knight and hornet

[serene oxide]

oh that's what you meant

[distant holly]

also team cherry refer to hornet as "the hero" for some reason

in the future there will be a big reveal that in silksong we play as hornet’s twin, and sealed siblings is canon

[serene oxide]

that would confirm my theory

[distant holly]

silksong isn’t real it’s just ||grand mother silk imagining the capture of hornet||

||act 3 is it turning into a nightmare||

[slim fjord]

||can higher beings even dream? ||

[serene oxide]

ask radiance

[slim fjord]

📲 🌞

can she dream

[serene oxide]

are people in your dreams experiencing their own reality in your dream or are they dreaming too

[storm garnet]

oh for fucks sake
very late endgame oilers

[slim fjord]

how many tries it is taking you-

[storm garnet]

[slim fjord]

what crest are you using

[storm garnet]

god forbid someone has a bit of a skill issue

reaper

im more used to the moveset

[slim fjord]

for the love of GOD dont use reaper

[opaque shard]

Use wanderers smh

[storm garnet]

[slim fjord]

reaper's extra silk is handy but its so SLOW

[storm garnet]

'

[slim fjord]

slow attacks = slow to get silk & less dps
less dps = longer fight
longer fight = higher chance of getting got

[storm garnet]

i am even more ass with wanderer

[slim fjord]

and you cant parry with it consistently

[slim fjord]

huh well uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh goooood luck with the fight

[storm garnet]

also i dont have all memory lockets

[serene oxide]

how many crests have you got

[storm garnet]

all

[slim fjord]

imoitsoneoftheeasiestbossesinthegame

[serene oxide]

is witch fully upgraded?

[storm garnet]

meanie smh

hunter, reaper, and witch for some reason

i do not use witch

[serene oxide]

use it

[storm garnet]

healing gonna be fun

[slim fjord]

what? whats with the reactions

[opaque shard]

Witch heal with multibinder+mirrorclaw deals stupid damage

[storm garnet]

dang!!

[slim fjord]

gl trying to heal with it

[storm garnet]

||she pauses midair very often its gonna be 🦐le||

[opaque shard]

Krill her

[distant holly]

why can’t they

[slim fjord]

my ass is not well educated in hk lore cause I thought the Radiance makes people dream

[distant holly]

radiance plague the dreams

dream realm is a thing independent from radiance

abyss memory of the knight is kinda a dream, the closest thing i can think of that’s in game directly

[slim fjord]

||when they save hornet & lace at the end of act 3, or||

[distant holly]

in hollow knight

[slim fjord]

or are you talking about the Hollow Knight during the void ascent

[distant holly]

i guess it’s the knight dreamnailing their own reflection

[hardy jolt]

?ban MelonHead87

[distant holly]

?banana

[storm garnet]

farthest ive gotten lmfao
very very late oilers

[opaque shard]

Well I used the ||cross sticht|| for her

You can also lifeblood spam with architects

[storm garnet]

im not confident enough with my dodging to use silk skills frequently

need it more for healing

[opaque shard]

Do you know the lifeblood secret intreaction?

[storm garnet]

overdose?

[opaque shard]

Yeah

[storm garnet]

i dont have enough tool pouches for it lmfao

[opaque shard]

I cheesed her like that in my steel soul

[opaque shard]

You can craft with architect

Mid battle

[storm garnet]

i dont have any memory lockets on architect 😭
i think im just gonna brute force this for a bit

[opaque shard]

😭

[storm garnet]

god i feel like i keep dying really late into the fight

anddd i ran out of shell shards and for that i must perish

chat im starting to think this fight mighttt be a bit harder than ||savage beastfly 2||

[opal totem]

||Voided beastfly > lost lace||

[barren ingot]

||my personal strat was to get a lifeblood vial, and only use it at the beginning of the last phase during that safe period to give me a buffer of 5 free hp for the final bit||

[storm garnet]

||so how do i know when the beginning of the last phase is ||

[barren ingot]

||well ermm what all have you seen?||

[storm garnet]

||the wave, up to lace's aoe attack , i assume grand mother silk is gonna get involved,,||

[barren ingot]

||wave is your indicator and your safe moment, stuff after that is all 'last phase'-ish. cant tell you what comes after that, tho. 🤫||

[storm garnet]

||gonna try and save my death cocoon for longer||

[quiet sentinel]

the username is a downgrade from the mc one

[barren ingot]

I dont know which one that is

[storm garnet]

ouhhh a perfect run thwarted by ||my dumbass repeatedly using silk skills accidentally instead of binding.....||

I think ||since witch crest heal looks similar to thread storm i mixed it up||

[quiet sentinel]

[quiet sentinel]

What are you running?

Why am I being question marked 😭

[storm garnet]

idk what it means 😭

[quiet sentinel]

What does perfect run mean, what are you running/doing

[storm garnet]

oh

||lost lace fight||

[quiet sentinel]

first time?

[storm garnet]

yuh

[quiet sentinel]

Gl, she's really fun

I loved her so much I no-hit her 4 times

Team Cherry will cook with dlcs 🙏

[storm garnet]

i hate her so much that i probably will never fight her again if i can

[low cipher]

ha

[storm garnet]

first thing that got me to keyboard slam in a while lmfao

[low cipher]

I accidentally died to her explosion the first time

[quiet sentinel]

nooo keep your morale up

[storm garnet]

its that one attack ||where she twirls up into the air|| that always gets me

at this point i do feel like im forcing myself to do this so i dont get the ending spoiled

oughhh

im out of fhsfukcvmign SHEL LSGHARDZSXS

and ic ant fuckling type because i swapped the cable from my keyboard to my conteroller

]\

the bluetooth on this is horrid

5 second input delay ass

i will come back to this later

[split sluice]

Wait I wonder ||so moorwing can be skipped, but can you skip it long enough that instead you fight it in act 3, can moorwing be voided?||

[storm garnet]

I think i heard ||that it can||

unable to verify though

[serene oxide]

yes if you just don't go through greymoor

[storm garnet]

you dont ||have to avoid the arena in the first place, it doesnt lock the room||

[distant holly]

[distant holly]

misinput

[mental shuttle]

Why does the hunters journal fucking suck

[distant holly]

lol

hornet has to kill ||innocent bugs on the surface|| to complete it

postgame spoilers

||skrills aren’t haunted or influenced by void, nor attack hornet on their own||

[split sluice]

||I fucking hate endgame rosary grinding||

||I wish there was a colosseum of fools equivalent||

[distant holly]

well what do you need them for though

[split sluice]

Buying tools

for 100%

[barren ingot]

||make sure to drop off your relics if you haven't yet||

[split sluice]

||I’m getting the last weaver thingies rn||

||Should be what I need to get enough||

[distant holly]

||should’ve bought them in act 2 ||

new speedrun category idea

low 100%, do minimum to get ingame 100%

[barren ingot]

sounds difficult to quantify

[split sluice]

||act 2 grand reed grinding ensues||

[distant holly]

so like somehow skip drifter’s cloak

[barren ingot]

I think the easiest way to handle it would just be boss count

[distant holly]

least bosses, least enemies in the journal, least abilities

[opaque shard]

I dont think you can get ||harpoon|| without it

[split sluice]

no relics as well

[distant holly]

minimum of ||materium too||

[barren ingot]

||I think I'd just do it by bosses and maybe abilities, although I'm doubtful that you can avoid getting them all for certain stuff in say, The Abyss which assumes you have everything||

counting enemies seems really unfun

[sudden plover]

||ngl trobbio felt like he lacked smth. Idk what but I'd guess the quest you do before|| grimm

[distant holly]

being an npc

[barren ingot]

||I think being able to chat before or after the fight would be nice, but the current thing is fine enough||

[opaque shard]

Beign tall

[opaque shard]

That would be pog

[opaque shard]

Also kalum where exactly are supposed to soil?

[distant holly]

yeah

[opaque shard]

Im guessing most people beat act 1

[sudden plover]

||you get no personality. He never talks. He just shows up, gets his ass kicked, and then leaves to go|| cry about it ||like a coward||

[barren ingot]

currently, anything post-act 1 needs to be spoilered

act 1 is fair game

[opaque shard]

Alr thx

[barren ingot]

that's a strangely venemous comment about a random boss in a video game

[distant holly]

||trobbio isn’t haunted by silk lol. why can’t we meet em behind the stage near the writing table or something after the fight||

[distant holly]

||trobbio does in fact talk||

[sudden plover]

||"TRRRRROOOOOOBBBBIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOO" doesn't count||

[distant holly]

there is a dialogue before the fight

and after

[barren ingot]

||is trobbio required for archivist melody||

or is there an alternate path

[distant holly]

with glitches there is always an alternative path

[sudden plover]

||any character not haunted talks. Why can't we find a secret passage to his area and talk to him under the stage||

[distant holly]

strangely you don’t need ||to defeat trobbio in act 2 for hunter’s journal, beating tormented trobbio unlocks the entry too||

why did they do it?

[distant holly]

yeah

[sudden plover]

||also it would have been cool if he like, popped up from under the stage or showed up in the background and started singing when you played needolin||

[distant holly]

considering team cherry kinda teased ||trobbio|| as an npc before the release

[storm garnet]

||i love when i time my witch crest bind 0.002 zeptoseconds too late and instead get 30 octillion masks of damage instead||

[lilac temple]

Man they add some hard run backs to this game but Jesus Christ || bell eater run back is atrociously hard, genuinely some of the least fun I’ve had playing a game ||

[distant holly]

there could be an argument ||that it would kinda go against trobbio’s attempt at acting to be dead after the fight, though||

[distant holly]

why?

[lilac temple]

how new and unique can you get with a boss rush

[lilac temple]

have you seen the run back?

it’s brutal man

[distant holly]

for ||bell eater||?

[lilac temple]

Yes

[sudden plover]

Godhome 2 might actually work since the godseekers actually look for more powerful gods and silksong has some powerful creatures

[distant holly]

isn’t it’s just going into ||bell ways||

[lilac temple]

well yeah and there’s always a bench next to it but

I don’t wanna move

0/10

[distant holly]

how would hornet enter their mind though

[distant holly]

then ||first sinner is for you||

[lilac temple]

buh

[sudden plover]

Weavenail

Weaver dreamnail

[distant holly]

new dlc where you go through wasteland for 10 hours back to hallownest to get dreamnail

[lilac temple]

what if they just put a structure that acts like a boss rush area in || bellheart || lmao

[distant holly]

and there is no benches though

why hornet just don’t ||collect 3 more hearts, and get the dream nail from the memory||

alternative path where you ignore ||everbloom and get dreamnail instead||

why ||everbloom|| doesn’t break on hits, it’s the ||delicate flower||

[sudden plover]

||people say delicate flower godhome ending is canon but like, why is there no cured hollow knight fight? What happened to that cliffhanger?||

[storm garnet]

boss spoiler
||IWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEADIWANTHERDEAD||

[split sluice]

||Maybe since it’s pulled from a memory, hornet never really thought of it as fragile, so it’s a lot more powerful in her memories?||

[sudden plover]

||imagine if the game started with a hollow knight boss fight but like halfway through the guys that captured hornet showed up, tied up THK with silk, and then it became an endless wave thing until you lose and the beginning cutscene begins||

[distant holly]

[sudden plover]

||and then in the boss rush dlc we're absolutely getting, there's a secrer area where you get to restart this endless wave thing||

[distant holly]

i thought something like this too, that ||it’s something with that it’s from the memory||. otherwise, i don’t really know how it could be explained, aside of a plothole lol

[slim fjord]

LL is easy

[storm garnet]

can you genuinely stop
I don't really care how easy for you, its giving me a lot of trouble and I wanna punch a hole in my monitor

[hardy jolt]

||i like to think the knight is just clumsy compared to hornet ||

[distant holly]

oh wait, ||since it’s the one used by white lady, maybe it has a seal on it, protecting it?|| well either that or ||it’s not actually physical||

there ||are protective seals, so maybe||

[storm garnet]

anyway im gonna take a break for now because my mind is too feeble to keep throwing myself at this fight

[sudden plover]

I once saw something saying that the knight is weak but really durable since hornet isnt very durable in silksong but is very strong while she is a tank of a boss in the first game

[distant holly]

i guess that’s really just a game limitation

bosses have high hp since they don’t dodge your attacks, while you can

also hornet isn’t really strong either tbf .

[sudden plover]

||the bug after a drill a hole in its brain:||

[slim fjord]

👍

uhh whenever you attempt it again try just
jumping over everything and pogoing

[void prawn]

Endless ordeal less annoying version

[void prawn]

I personally think that hornet may be a bit more fragile and that's why near everything deals 2 damage in skong but also in skong hornet notes that she doesn't have any of her skills or any of that so the ||10 masks|| that we get is probably just all that was available to her in pharloom and the masks for her boss is from the fact that she didn't lose any sort of power while in hallownest

[dim harbor]

completed hunters journal
that did not take that long, and was more fun then in hk for me

[void prawn]

That's technically soilers

[dim harbor]

isn t act 1 allowed in here?

[hardy jolt]

thats not spoilers

[void prawn]

There's not that many creatures in act 1 and like

Not everyone knows how many creatures are in total

[dim harbor]

i think if you see theres act 1 everyone would guess theres more of them, and you get hunters journal halfway through act 1

[void prawn]

For instance act 1 has like around 100ish(???)

[dim harbor]

and doesn t it shown from the start how many overall creatures there are?

[void prawn]

I'm pretty sure not I didn't see it

[hardy jolt]

||im prtty sure its a farsight thing but like it literally does not matter||

i would not consider it a spoiler

[dim harbor]

ah

i did not actually rememebr that my bad then

i am not looking forward to getting the|| flea mementum||

[clever furnace]

Just got to ||act 3, this shit is fire|| -Wren

||Bell Eater is a cool boss|| -Wren

[hardy jolt]

[slim fjord]

||every enemy does 2 dmg now||

[clever furnace]

Im aware -Wren

[serene oxide]

huh?

||bell eater|| has a 20 second run back

[serene oxide]

you don't have to spoiler lace

[hardy jolt]

LMAO???

[lilac temple]

hey so I was joking

[hardy jolt]

||not even 20 seconds the bench in choral chambers is like 5 second away||

[serene oxide]

didn't read that when replying

[lilac temple]

smh

Still makes the game AWFUL

[storm garnet]

this chat still has to spoil all silksong afaik, even though it isnt as enforced now

[serene oxide]

1 act is fair game

[hardy jolt]

read pins

[storm garnet]

ah its changed

[serene oxide]

and without ||specifying the Lace fight||, you can leave it clear

[dim harbor]

only|| 2 carrier deliveries, and forsaken flea memento||, and i got true 100%

also one memory locket, which idk where it could be

[serene oxide]

did you get the Halfway Home one?

[spring terrace]

Erm the final boss of act 2 is undescribably gas

Unspeakably peak

A gift unto our silky song

It is HARD but good good good

I got to its,,,, 2nd phase? 1 and 1/2 phase

Where ||she starts throwing rocks||

[serene oxide]

oh you're on that

[dim harbor]

idk?

[serene oxide]

@mental shuttle i wanna apologise

you were right

[mental shuttle]

Wuh

[serene oxide]

about ||spoiling act three||

i thought about it

and you're right

[mental shuttle]

Yeah no shit 😭

[serene oxide]

it's in a secret corner under Nuu

[mental shuttle]

Is all good cro

[dim harbor]

then i most likely did.

[mental shuttle]

Me when I lie

[spring terrace]

I GOT A FICKIJG INSANE ENDING

WHAT IS THIS GAME

[serene oxide]

Hollow Knight: Silksong

[spring terrace]

||‘WEAVER QUEEN’ HELLO?!,!’ EJSJSJSIJS||

THE creditss

AUGHHH

WHAT OS YHIS GAME

WHY IS IT PERFECT.

[serene oxide]

would it be a spoiler to say that ||there's more content left to discover||

[spring terrace]

What. What. What. What. What. I am still in shock.

[spring terrace]

I am tempted to click! Is it a big soiler or just a fun fact

I am so Confuzzled

I am utterly, Bamboozled

Ima try to get another ending

I’mmgonna explore the whole map and see what I missed

‘Kay

How do I get weaver hearts

Cus I only have 2

[serene oxide]

the third one is in ||whiteward||

[spring terrace]

I see

I should utilize my needolin more

Anywho,,, I have no idea where to start on all the shit I missed

[serene oxide]

you need ||clawline|| to get it

[spring terrace]

So I’ll just check out blank map areas

[spring terrace]

Got that

[serene oxide]

what stuff have you completed thus far

[spring terrace]

That’s kinda hard to answer
I’ve done every quest, I thnk? All the quest boards are empty

Explored a lot of the map

Gotten ||beast, wanderer and reaper|| crests

A lot of accesorries

[serene oxide]

okay, good, ||in the hallway where you get the injector band there's a hidden entrance in the ceiling||

I'm pretty sure it's a really conspicuous light beam

[spring terrace]

Man

There is a blasted steps room near the bellway station

That I need double jump for!

[serene oxide]

you sill haven't got that?!

[spring terrace]

WHERE DO I GET IT

SERIOUSLY,,,, I HAVE CHECKED EVERYWHERE

[serene oxide]

did you perhaps check that little giant zone to the left from the citadel

[spring terrace]

The slab? Yes i scoured it

.oh

[serene oxide]

then you must surely know of the giant area even more to the left

[spring terrace]

I. Needed. Claw harpoon. And I have it now.

And I forgot!

To check!

I forgot ||mount fay|| existed!

🥹

[serene oxide]

excuse my curiosity, but how the fuck did you get through ||Cogwork Core|| without a double jump

though I've never tried it without the double jump, so maybe it's actually possible

[spring terrace]

Claw Harpoon spam

And some pogoing

Not spam really

I was quite stragetic

That is funny

I kinda just skipped an ability 🥹

But I got a fire batshit ending

Thanks for the infos

[serene oxide]

||mount Fay|| is tricky though

[spring terrace]

Man I wanna use the accesory ||Trobbio|| gives so bad but,,,, its range is so small

[spring terrace]

I’d like a challenge

[serene oxide]

you would hate ||the witch crest||

[spring terrace]

Meh, I hated the wanderers crest then grew to love it
I could love that too

[serene oxide]

it gets so cold you start dying

[spring terrace]

Oh yeah! That!

Uhhh. I’ll tuff it out 🐺

If silksong is anything like PEAK I’ll find a lantern!

If only

[serene oxide]

there will be lanterns alright

[spring terrace]

explosion sound

Thats my prediction eveerything will explode

[serene oxide]

how's your climbing going @spring terrace

[sudden plover]

||me when I accidentally break the lantern (I'm cold and losing masks rapidly)||

[serene oxide]

it was so thoughtful of TC to make sure a precise harpoon strike destroys lanterns

what is everyone's favourite silksong song

[spring terrace]

I had to take a shower :P

I am gonna climb now

Aughhgsgahssi

I’ve been thinking about how my character’s lore will fit into silksong

(I’m making a skin of them)

And I plan to change like,,,, Everything,,,

I can’t NOT replace all the crests and abilities and dialogue and cutscnes and other stuff

[storm garnet]

ok so ||i decided to use wanderers crest for LL, yeaahhh its so much easier||

oh myhg od

yeah

yeah

i needed to do that sooner

postgamm literal final boss shit dont click

[tawdry osprey]

i clicked

[storm garnet]

i regret not changing crests sooner

[spring terrace]

WHY DID TYOU CLICK

did you already do it

[storm garnet]

that was peak cinema

[hardy jolt]

i also clicked 💔

[spring terrace]

🥹

FOR ONCE I WAS THE ONE WITH RESTRAINT

[tawdry osprey]

i 100% the game 🥹

[clever furnace]

turns out doing more damage is pretty effective, it may be more so than tryna heal more

[spring terrace]

Oh good

[storm garnet]

nah i was using ||witch crest before now, i really needed that healing||

[spring terrace]

I love how ||lace 2|| makes you attack sparingly its so fun i cant describe how fun it is if you dont spam attack

[clever furnace]

I am consistent with LL, but with reaper I genuinely was losing because of low dps

[broken plover]

Has anyone managed to mod 50 unkillable primal aspids into silksong

I would like to suffer

[sudden plover]

||disgraced shed lugoli absolutely deserves two masks||

[hardy jolt]

||50 unkillable triple straight pin craws||

[opaque shard]

||50 unkillable savage beastflies that also summon 50 unkillable minions every 2 seconds||

[hardy jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291185557789343744/1316362063030911017/1219798523218890782.gif

[opaque shard]

Literally 1 message above you 😭

[spring terrace]

Well I didn't check the soiler 🥹

I wish ppl would mark soilers,
like [soiler] 'act 1' [soiler] 'minor boss'

I don't wanna accidentally click on an ||act 3|| souler

[opaque shard]

Spoiler soilers ||act 3 is counted as a soiler here||

[lilac temple]

|| is garmond better than bell beast ||

|| he def is smh ||

[hardy jolt]

hellllllllll no

[opaque shard]

Duh hes hotter

[slim fjord]

What satanic force compelled you to spout such an awful opinion?

[spring terrace]

I wanna meet ass jim

[slim fjord]

who is that-

[serene oxide]

the cook

[hardy jolt]

no way the official hk server called them ass jim this is peak...

[serene oxide]

the one who killed Gus Fring

[hardy jolt]

also i think ass jim ingame is only accessable in act 2 so um

||iirc you need wings||

[slim fjord]

Oh yeah ass Jim

[spring terrace]

||Is he the one who requests all the stuff,, like stew and courier meat? Fuck the courier meat idk HOW ill deliver that|| act 2

[serene oxide]

yeap

[slim fjord]

Ass Jim ||cooks people.||

[hardy jolt]

||no but you get one of the things you need for that quest from ass jim so its related||

[opaque shard]

||They can cook me 🤤 ||

[lilac temple]

|| bell beast is annoying ||

[spring terrace]

I heart ass jim

[opaque shard]

ur annoying smh

[slim fjord]

Art thou so unfathomably awful that thee decided the best little thing ever to be produced out of Team Cherry is annoying because you died to its boss?

Or do you just not enjoy gargantuan doggies?

[opaque shard]

They a hater ignore em

[opaque shard]

Wait wtf why did I sent that gif

Huh

[gray horizon]

||grimm:||
||flashy and dramatic ✅ ||
||talks about flame ✅||
||red and gay ✅ ||
||trobbio:||
||flashy and dramatic ✅ ||
||talks about flame ✅||
||red and gay ✅ ||

[opaque shard]

Duh

[slim fjord]

erm actually ||TROBBIOOOOOOOO|| is purple and emo

[opaque shard]

Only in ||act 3||

[gray horizon]

purple and red are like the same thing basically
and ||grimm|| is emo too

[opaque shard]

You triggered my artist side

tf u mean purple and red are same

[oak swift]

That is not really true much at all

[slim fjord]

purple and red are not the same

[gray horizon]

thats what the illuminati want you to think

[slim fjord]

red is PART of purple but they aren’t the same

[gray horizon]

shleep

[opaque shard]

I was gonna share an ||grimmxtrobbio|| yaoi art I made but now I wont 😡

[oak swift]

Uh huh

[slim fjord]

nonono please do

[gray horizon]

[opaque shard]

Hmmmmm....

[gray horizon]

reconsider pal

[oak swift]

[oak swift]

[gray horizon]

[slim fjord]

why are ||trobbios|| eyes WIDE open

[opaque shard]

They aint

[oak swift]

Heres 20 💸, purple and red aint the same

[gray horizon]

i shoot your 💸 with

[slim fjord]

ik they’re closed but it looks identical to when his eyes are open

[oak swift]

THATS 20 BUCKS YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME!!!

[oak swift]

Either wide open or his eyelashes are super long

[oak swift]

(Prob dont send this btw )

[opaque shard]

He has the "matewial gawl" eyelashes

[opaque shard]

Whynot

[slim fjord]

His eyes are actually tiny dots but the ✨LASHES✨

[slim fjord]

Spoilers

[opaque shard]

I soiled it 😭

[slim fjord]

Ya didn’t-

[storm garnet]

probably because its ship art

[oak swift]

This ones innocent but still its a gamble with these pictures

Just for the future, and also soilers

[storm garnet]

it is, its bugged on your end

[slim fjord]

Nvm I’m dumb

[oak swift]

Yes this is why mostly

[storm garnet]

anyway im gonna get my last 8% now

[slim fjord]

I KNOW BRO IT WAS BUGGED FOR ME

[opaque shard]

Aww man I have like 200 crackship arts where the characters are just kissing

[slim fjord]

send me ALL of them

[opaque shard]

(Dont question my hobbie-wtf

[slim fjord]

Huh?

[opaque shard]

They contain soilers

[slim fjord]

I already beat the game

[opaque shard]

[hardy jolt]

WHAT

I NEED

GIVE

[lilac temple]

he makes too much sound

whoopsie

nobody saw that

|| Guys I just got the secret diving bell ending where it fucking exploded and you die and the game uninstalls itself ||

[dim harbor]

how did i miss this-
till i got literally everything else

the last memory locket in || halfway home||

[slim fjord]

execute this person

[opaque shard]

Good for you

[dim harbor]

i hate this, this is also the last thing i need for true 100%

[opaque shard]

Want hints?

[storm garnet]

||wtf is seth doing there ||

[dim harbor]

i should be able to manage, maybe-

||i am scared of flea juggle||

thats scary

dodge will also be quite hard

[opaque shard]

I used the ||shamans crest for bounce and juggle||

[hardy jolt]

how do you give hints for that is the hint just like git gud or something

[opaque shard]

Yes

[hardy jolt]

[dim harbor]

||bounce is easy as heck, juggle is unholy||

[opaque shard]

Real

[dim harbor]

this is also the true last thing i need, i done literally everything else

[storm garnet]

I reccomend ||not jumping at all for juggle, it became much easier when i stopped||

[dim harbor]

he is cracked at this

[serene oxide]

I TOLD YA

TOLD YAAA

I TOLD YOU

[dim harbor]

you did, i was sure i checked that little ledge, my apologies

[serene oxide]

it's oke

I'm just curious how do you know how many lockets you've left

oh

of course

nvm

[dim harbor]

i just have all the crests, so i knew how many more i need

[hardy jolt]

||i remember hearing there were eyes down here and its true!! they even blink||

||what a silly goober||

[dim harbor]

i don t recognize that place

[tawdry osprey]

is that silksong

[hardy jolt]

yes (no)

[tawdry osprey]

im getting conflictive answers

[hardy jolt]

its the uhh

||godhome lifeblood room||

[dim harbor]

oh

i think i never found this room

[hardy jolt]

||fair you needa do a few bindings to get it||

[dim harbor]

ah then not suprised i never got there

||is 59 hours on first playthrough good to get literally everything but guardians memento?||

[hardy jolt]

ya

[sudden plover]

||is the mist like, different every time?||

[hardy jolt]

its random yes

[sudden plover]

So... I'm not getting a map?

[hardy jolt]

no

but like it doesnt exist anymore after you do it once on a playthrough

so you dont really need it

[sudden plover]

Any tips for this place?

[dim harbor]

theres a consistant way to get through it

[hardy jolt]

theres a guarenteed way to find the path out

if that helps

[sudden plover]

I assume y'all aren't gonna tell me cuz that ruins the area?

[hardy jolt]

do you want us to....

[dim harbor]

only if you wish

[sudden plover]

Okay this place pisses me off

Inform me

[broken plover]

[hardy jolt]

||play the needolin to those fairys that are chilling around||

[dim harbor]

||use your needolin next to the moths||

[sudden plover]

I figured that out right as I asked lmfao

[oak swift]

Hey friends are we colluding to soil someone here?

Smh smh

(Jk)

[sudden plover]

Question

||Are these ghost fuckers immortal?||

[oak swift]

No

All bleed

[dim harbor]

yes./j

[broken plover]

The second I discovered sharp shadow could kill the crystal laser bugs in crystal peak, I felt powerful

[sudden plover]

Ahem, FREEDOM

||i hate this lady already||

[queen trench]

...try spells...

[broken plover]

Excuse my peabrainess for forgetting those existed

[clever furnace]

||Bell eater|| is fire
Skrew you -Wren

[clever furnace]

Wait, it can?!?!?!?! -Wren

[sudden plover]

||so like, what causes the mist to be so different from what the area is after phantom is beaten? I just interpreted it as hornet being blind, lost, and confused so it seemed different and bigger.||

[hardy jolt]

||phantom like made the mist with her silk or something idk||

[slim fjord]

all the exhaust fogged up the area
||and also i think phantom spawned in the wraiths from silk or somethin||

[upbeat merlin]

😭🙏
Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring, banana phone.
Ping pong ping pong ping, donnana phooone!

[void prawn]

I am NEVER going to use silkskills

They were good for a bit but then they got

Bad

[opal totem]

Silkskill issue

[sudden plover]

||this goddamn high halls gauntlet is going to kill me||

[lilac temple]

|| I wish some of the platforming sections were a bit more challenging such as bilewater, that lava escape sequence ||

[barren ingot]

Epic Gaming Tip: ||If you can find and complete a duel with either of two characters, you can get aid in the arena||

[sudden plover]

||is one Shakra?||

[barren ingot]

mhm

[sudden plover]

||who's the other?||

[barren ingot]

||Garmond, if you've met em||

[sudden plover]

||is that the guy with the friend that has the funny name (zaza)||

[barren ingot]

||yup||

[sudden plover]

||also what does second sentinel do? I gave them a heart, they attacked two of the big guys in the hall, and dipped||

[barren ingot]

that tracks

[full vale]

apparently ||the mist|| is impossible without ||needolin||

yoi can get as far as the hall though, which is nice

[opal totem]

I need more ||second sentinel|| lore

I know there are more optional encounters after the wish but I only got one

[void prawn]

I know how to use them I just prefer needle only

[quiet sentinel]

yea the ||wraiths are her own unravelling silk||

[slim fjord]

get OUT of here you FRAUD

[broken plover]

B-but

[slim fjord]

you dare impersonate such a glorious being?!

blasphemy!

[broken plover]

[slim fjord]

ill have you beheaded.

[slim fjord]

i feel contaminated

[broken plover]

You have the infection now you fool

[slim fjord]

[broken plover]

Haha

That's why you never mess with the FAKE Zote the mighty

[broken plover]

How'd you get a picture of my ark character

[slim fjord]

wouldnt you like to know

[broken plover]

I wanna thank team cherry for giving that one enemy in silksong the unmatched power of the sun

[slim fjord]

they throw nuclear bombs

[quiet sentinel]

and theyre immune to it!! its awful 😭

[glad stratus]

||where the fuck is this fucking weaver in the slab||

[opal totem]

I think they're cool

As long as you don't fight them in act 1

[glad stratus]

O can't rovflamberghast react the image 💔

[glad stratus]

Genuinely someone show the map 💔

[clever furnace]

pretty well hidden

[glad stratus]

Where exactly

[clever furnace]

fine, ||chest room, hidden on the ceiling||

[glad stratus]

Show the fucking map 💔

Fym "chest room"

Alright nvm then

Where is this fucking boss

Whys the hollow Knight community full of gatekeepers

Every single one of em is a gatekeeper

[glad stratus]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

This is pissing me off 💔

Feels like I've check every fucking pixel

||Mf do I need a secret fourth key to access this boss or some shit???||

[spring terrace]

Ok

[clever furnace]

bloody hell

[spring terrace]

Advice on the ||Courier's Rasher|| quest? [act,,,,, 2]

[opal totem]

Clear the path first

[spring terrace]

Don''t enemies just respawn

Like when you leave the room

[clever furnace]

wrong link

[opal totem]

No

Don't bench

[spring terrace]

Oh.

[opal totem]

Most enemies don't respawn

[spring terrace]

I coulda sworn it worked that way-

Well yeah that'll be helpful

[opal totem]

Embed failure

[clever furnace]

no embed anyway

@glad stratus ||first sinner|| location

[glad stratus]

There we go

[opal totem]

Someone said you can play needolin during the flea travel cutscene

Is this real

[quiet sentinel]

Never seen any mention of this

[glad stratus]

||did I just see the fucking sinner bind??||

[clever furnace]

yes

[glad stratus]

||this boss was fun but I don't wanna see that shit again||

[gray horizon]

||gaymoor||

if i had a nickel for every indie-adjacent goty contender that has an amazing story, amazing visuals, amazing combat, and an ||act iii that comes after you beat what is supposed to be the "final" boss||, i'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but its weird that its happened twice

[opal totem]

True

The final act of balatro was epic

[serene oxide]

||witch crest can't counter barrages||

utter trash

can't believe i ever used it

hunter crest here i come

[serene oxide]

Sealed Vessel makes me sob a little when i listen to it

[distant holly]

that was really hard

[opaque shard]

||73 on bounce? Thats weak do a 100||

[distant holly]

yeah, that's definetly possible. ||bounce|| is pretty doable

[opaque shard]

I think mine is 167-

[unreal hedge]

||kratt being the worst at everything, including the one game they're offering, is so in-character ||

[opaque shard]

Eukra! Thats just gave me the best art idea ever!!!

[unreal hedge]

||i wish we could do more than just one slap on Kratt||

[opaque shard]

Thats what im gonna draw

😼

[mellow sigil]

cant you beat him up in ||fleatopia||....

[unreal hedge]

||games don't count because of the helmet||

[mellow sigil]

noo I didnt do it myself but saw a clip of|| someone hitting him while he peeks at you in his cart and than going out and beating him up outside hahahah||

was it modded maybe???? if so thats pretty. Crazy

|| https://youtu.be/CL0Sx8M93GA || oh yeah I didnt made that up!!!!!

[distant holly]

||but bounce is probably the best game||

oh wait

i see what you meant

[opaque shard]

Late act 2 soilers ||Everyone uniting to give kr*tt what he deserves||

[opal totem]

I hope they add a fishing minigame in dlc

[serene oxide]

https://youtu.be/CtqbHimldIc?si=4niqLvXznusXN5MG

found the Silk Song

[spring terrace]

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I just lost 1000 rosariiiiiiiiiiesss

I feel like doodoo

[opaque shard]

This is why you make rosaries strings

[spring terrace]

Sigh

But,,,,,,,,,,,,

Not satisfying big number

[mellow sigil]

so real

didnt make a single string OR necklace on my second playthrough

[opaque shard]

Or just git gut

[spring terrace]

git gut

[clever furnace]

||We screamed joyful sounds when we realized mort died in act 3|| (postgame soiler) -Wren

[unreal hedge]

||which one is Mort||

[opaque shard]

||Guy in pilgrims rest||

[clever furnace]

this guy from act one -Wren

I hate him, he is a scumbag

[slim fjord]

you can just like

break the door

[clever furnace]

You can? -Wren

[slim fjord]

but true

yeah when you go in you can break the gears above the door so you dont have to pay every time

[clever furnace]

Omg, fire -Wren

[slim fjord]

oh mah gaw mahn kaylum es teypeing

[barren ingot]

||I saw a video shared here where someone spent like 2 hours and got something like 4000||

[clever furnace]

don't you know? you can keep attacking him after you caught him peeking
you can juggle him around and throw him on the water in greymoor

[mellow sigil]

I love Hornets lines when she catches him shes so fucking pissed

BE GRATEFUL YOU'RE STILL ALIVE

reasonable though

look whos talking

[unreal hedge]

||some would argue oh fuck off 🥹||

||such explicit weasel wording||

[gleaming badger]

hornet: ||i dont car about this kingdom 😠 i dont car||
also hornet: ||act 3||

[opal totem]

||She kinda caused all that so that's understandable||

[true raptor]

The ||guardian memento|| is so dogshit to get🫩

[opaque shard]

Just wait till ||hunters memonto||

[true raptor]

I already got that

[opaque shard]

||I have like 163 completed outta 253||

[unreal hedge]

(post-game) ||fuck I want to create a poll on whether Act 2 content should be unspoiled, but this has the problem of implying the existence of a lot of post-Act 2 content || @barren ingot help

[barren ingot]

imo if we do one we should just do all

and thatd mean allowing silksong spoilered outside of this channel, unspoilered in this channel

[unreal hedge]

imo the silkmania has calmed down enough for that

[barren ingot]

one-monthiversary as of today, I think

[quiet sentinel]

So long as theres a spoiler warning indicating that this thread contains unspoiled content I'm fine with it

[barren ingot]

we'll do a little pingless announcement probably

[opaque shard]

theres like 10 people in this chat anyways lol

[quiet sentinel]

Would hate for anyone to click here and be blasted with something they shouldn't see

[barren ingot]

same thing was done with deltarune

[quiet sentinel]

Yea sweet

Fine by me!

[serene oxide]

finally

[barren ingot]

you specifically will still have to spoiler everything

[unreal hedge]

beetlemania, you could say

how many beetles are in silksong

[barren ingot]

27

[serene oxide]

curse you, tyrant

/j

[clever furnace]

kills you with hammers

[unreal hedge]

you will have to spoiler everything, in every channel

[true raptor]

FUCK YOU ||SETH|| I BEAT YOUR SHI

[clever furnace]

YEA FUCK YOU ||SETH|| IDC ABOUT YOUR ORIGIN

[wide ledge]

yall think its doable

if both of them summon needles at the same time its like impossible nvm

[barren ingot]

||some modded buffed version of the fight, or an act 3 thing? (Ignoring the doubling, of course.)||

[wide ledge]

modded buffed version yeah

[barren ingot]

||the dash ability gives enough invincibility frames that you could use it when that comes up and probably do fine||

[barren ingot]

alright this seems pretty damning, putting announcement out now

[tawdry osprey]

so can i now say silksong dies in the end

[serene oxide]

where did a thousand server members go

[wide ledge]

disappeared

[wide ledge]

the parry could make this possible

and a lot of luck

[barren ingot]

wdym

discord.gg/rainworld

oh yeah that's probably from the purge of inactive users tagged with suspicious DM activity

since we've been getting so many scambots lately

[opaque shard]

Theres also a lotta scammers in another server in im 😭

[unreal hedge]

Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[broken plover]

I love how Hornet takes 2 masks of damage from almost everything, and then the knight would probably tank a Guillotine for like 1 mask of damage

[opaque shard]

hehe spoilers!!!!!!

[broken plover]

Spoil this please

[void prawn]

I first tried phantom

And beat skarrsinger

[clever furnace]

nice

[void prawn]

The "spam tools since they aren't used in memory's" tactic helped a lot

[dim harbor]

no need to spoil things here anymore

[barren ingot]

All Silksong Stuff Is Allowed Unspoilered Here Now

• it'd be cool if you still spoilered super duper lategame stuff out of courtesy but it's up to you ultimately
• other channels need silksong to be spoilered, still.

[tawdry osprey]

thank you xXx_KALUM_YT_2015_xXx

[broken plover]

Ohh okay then

[opaque shard]

In the end silksong dies

[broken plover]

[pale vessel]

the silksong dies and hornet says "Heh, maybe the real silk song were the friends we made along the way..." before she fades offscreen

[opaque shard]

I...Am....SilkSong
-Hornet

[pale vessel]

roll credits

[clever furnace]

||When do you see the steel guys that were shown in the trailers?|| -Wren

[wide ledge]

they dont exist anymore pretty sure

although theres one steel guy only in steel soul

[clever furnace]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -Wren

OSDFJOISDJFOISDJFOISDJOFJDSOFJDSIOFDJSO

WHYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe in dlc

[final sky]

So chat im doing a steelsoul and my furthest run has been ive beat trobbio im happy with myself

I figured out that magma bell is amazing for last judge

And cogwork dancers is a pray fight for me

Lol

[clever furnace]

A shame they seemed to have scrapped the coral area for just a set of enemy waves

Ik

I really hope we see more in dlc

[final sky]

Yeah

[clever furnace]

Because they did not do that places design justice

The gauntlet was fun though

[final sky]

I love being ignored

But yeah steel soul is really fun for me

[clever furnace]

I cant wait to try steel soul (lying) -Wren

[void prawn]

"Skarrsinger and lace 2/LL are cool and fun fights"

I HATED

Those two fights

[lilac temple]

🫩

lace2 is not that bad

dude just spam tools 😭

[void prawn]

For me she spammed counteres whenever I went for a hit and sometimes frame perfect countered

[void prawn]

I ran out of shells

[lilac temple]

[void prawn]

Skarrsinger was annoying tho

[clever furnace]

Skarrsinger was great, you cannot convince me otherwise -Wren

[wide ledge]

i did the lace fights toolless it was fun

to lazy to get shells

[void prawn]

She was kinda fun but super annoying to learn IMO

The gauntlet was amazing tho

[hardy jolt]

karmelita is like the best fight in the game fr

[wide ledge]

truuue

[void prawn]

I memorized the hp of them with hunters focus and 2 nail upgrades

[wide ledge]

dream fights take ass long to get back where you were

[clever furnace]

Also, beat Khan and Nyleth first try
Kinda wish at least Nyleth was harder
Because Khan did have that gauntlet -Wren

[void prawn]

The only first try I've done is phantom

[wide ledge]

nyleth had seth

goated fight lowkey

[clever furnace]

Seth was good
But i wish there was more to Nyleth
It was a really cool concept -Wren

[void prawn]

Seth is GOATED

[final sky]

Ngl i love all fights in silksong

Except groal

He can die

I love this game so much

Best game ever made

[clever furnace]

I like Groal, just not the runback -Wren

[final sky]

I just realized i have to do groal

Also seth is lowkey one of my favorite bosses

Hes very fair and fun

[full vale]

can you do ||mount fay|| with only ||drifter's|| and ||dash||m

[final sky]

No

You need clawline

[full vale]

right

do you need claw to get claw line?

[final sky]

Idk

[hardy jolt]

possible with sharpdart too

[final sky]

I never tried

[full vale]

oh I think it's possible

people do that in low% I think

[final sky]

Sharpdart my beloved

[full vale]

or used to

[barren ingot]

I

oops

I've seen it without that as well

[hardy jolt]

woah

[full vale]

claw line is in deep docks right?

[barren ingot]

you have to use flea brew and plasmium midair to stall and get more horizontal

[barren ingot]

uw

[wide ledge]

kalum STOLE what i was about to say

silksong steel soul but you die in one hit

[full vale]

i see uhh

[wide ledge]

almost

[full vale]

close enough

i want to skip claw for later because I'm not in the mood to skip sis wood or whatever her name was

[wide ledge]

how the hell does one skip clawline

[clever furnace]

wonder if you can get to act 3 without faydown

nvm you can't, groal is only accessible with double jump

[full vale]

just don't fight sister wood or something

[clever furnace]

sister splinter

[full vale]

when i say claw i mean the wallcling

yes

i'm too hk pilled

hi moorwig

ok i hate moorwig

[clever furnace]

valid take

[slim fjord]

skarrsinger was perfect
LL was too easy

[clever furnace]

https://youtu.be/v40T9Nkl3c0?si=Y47982IEf8wC8bQb

[opaque shard]

LL?

[void prawn]

Lost lave

Lace

[void prawn]

Timmy tough knuckles

[opaque shard]

Oh-

[slim fjord]

😎

it took me like 4 tries

[mellow sigil]

THSI THREAD NOW ALLOWS SPOIELRS UNSOILERED????

[tawdry osprey]

Yes

you can finally say that silksong dies at the end

[mellow sigil]

cogworklings blast

I can finally say that silksong ends when you get the ending

[wide ledge]

i really enjoy how the twelfth architect talks

i beat hornet

woo

[mellow sigil]

I really love their constant muttering

what is bro yapping about

[distant holly]

you know what’s funnier is that the spikes and stuff deal hundreds of damage to creatures other than hornet

if you could put bosses in spikes or saws, most of them would die in seconds

[mellow sigil]

what I really like about this thread is that only ten people max are constantly active in here and noone else

I never see a new face

[distant holly]

i think the only intentional "throwing bosses into environmental hazards" is lace and ||watcher at the edge||

i accidentally did the later, and thought it was a bug lol

i’m not sure how much damage it deals

[mellow sigil]

wait whos ||watcher .....||

||WATCHER?||

[distant holly]

but at that point i damaged them enough for sand to kill them