Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[hardy jolt]

just unused

[mellow sigil]

it will probably be very repurposed than I imagine

Im sure the additional content they're making will be great either way

[hardy jolt]

yes!!

[unreal hedge]

free update implies the existence of a paid update

and thinking about it

victoria 2 DLCs do kind of partially fit being paid updates

they do add a lot of new content
but there are also a bunch of bugfixes and qol features that are specific to the DLCs for some reason

[hardy jolt]

arent all dlcs just paid updates

[unreal hedge]

the most notorious example being Yellow Prussia

[unreal hedge]

Updates are sequential, DLCs aren't

You can play Watcher without Downpour

[hardy jolt]

ture

[mellow sigil]

what makes them dlcs methinks if that they're completely additional and optional

ouh Randi already said it

[unreal hedge]

Victoria 2 makes defining DLCs rigidly a bit more difficult in this regard too though

There are two major DLCs, and the second DLC requires the first DLC

the Victoria 2 major DLCs are basically paid updates

[quiet sentinel]

gn silksongers

[hardy jolt]

gn mae :3

[digital robin]

Isaac does the same thing

If you want the Online Co-op mode (Repentance +, a free update) you need Repentance (pay DLC 3) which require Afterbirth + (pay DLC 2) which require Afterbirth (pay DLC 1) and the base game

[opal totem]

They're just paid updates basically

[digital robin]

most of the time the final boss being locked behind needing to beat the previous update final boss to reach him in each run (or unlock a new pathway)

[tawdry osprey]

i dont know about anyone who plays isaac without dlcs just because of that

[digital robin]

You either try the base game and maybe buy all DLCs later or buy all DLCs

[tawdry osprey]

i bought all directly

[mellow sigil]

oh wait true

and those dlcs arent even actually additional isaac is like a completely different game without them

I bought them all at once as well once I had the money to buy tboi in general....

[digital robin]

Isaac is a bit of a weird case since Roguelikes like them tend to have hard areas always hidden behind "easier" ones, and as such if you want a new one you usually add it after a previous one that may had been the harder one of the previous DLC

either that or an entirely new "quest / path"

which it also does XD

since Repentance was a true DLC (a mod that added a bunch of new unrelated stuff)

[digital robin]

94% Completed Act 1 before Watcher 1.5?

[split sluice]

You know what? ||sends you to bilewater boss||

[digital robin]

I can first try it now with a decent build. I did it in both my speedrun and steel soul run

[split sluice]

(Phantom)

||She’s technically a bilewater boss ||

[mental shuttle]

How shakra feels after filling out one room and giving you the map

[mental shuttle]

TECHNICALLY shes an ||exhaust organ|| boss :3

[tawdry osprey]

is that a silksong mod

[digital robin]

Naaa

it's a ||Boss||

[mellow sigil]

how can I defeat ||lost lace|| when im on the verge of tears because of the boss theme

/silly

[delicate nexus]

quick question
||which crest should I use for act 3 + how should I build it?||

[mellow sigil]

||I think any crest is good depends on your preferred playstyle||

||I completed almost the entirety of act 3 with architects but I just really like it ||

[velvet trench]

Ive used ||hunter the whole game and am still using it||, so yeah completely depends on ur playstyle

||shaman|| is my 2nd fav, great for damage

[tawdry osprey]

cool one

[barren ingot]

what boss would we consider the most difficult in the game currently

honestly I might put my money on ||skaarsinger carmelita||, although ||lost lace|| is pretty tough

[tawdry osprey]

Imo ||lost lace||

[hardy jolt]

||lost lace took me longer than skaarsinger but second place is skaarsinger for me||

[barren ingot]

I found the difference between ||skaarsinger|| taking me a whole day vs ||nyleth and khann|| being first-tries pretty comical

at least ||nyleth has seth and khann has the arenas, I suppose||

[tawdry osprey]

i would agree the hardest ones are those two by a margin

its so noticeable the diference between thos and the others

[barren ingot]

the ||shakra|| duel is up there for me, actually

[tawdry osprey]

i didnt find it because the game never tells you about it 🥹

[barren ingot]

not quite on that same tier but it's a tough one

[tawdry osprey]

i never got to experience it

[barren ingot]

||the little circle thingy on a pole is sitting right in front of bellhart, so if you pass by the area you'll probably notice it||

[tawdry osprey]

i dont usually go to that area anyways tho

next time i went theres ||was in act 3 after the map change, before that i didnt have any reason to go back there||

[slim fjord]

a few

silkchat how does one acquire enough tools for ||architect's crest||

[barren ingot]

Explore

[slim fjord]

ive explored every area aside from like 2
i think the last 4 are either in ||Bilewater...|| or sold by merchants

[barren ingot]

why not explore those 2

[slim fjord]

im ✨broke✨

and im stuck on the|| bilewater|| boss

[barren ingot]

||Did you find the Secret Bench to respawn closer?||

||also, second tip- when it does the glob spit attack you can get under it and land a bunch of upswings relatively risk-free||

[slim fjord]

||the boss itself is easy its the enemies before that get me||

[slim fjord]

no, where is it?-

[barren ingot]

||Top left is the boss arena||

[slim fjord]

cool thanks

[mellow sigil]

its funny everyones mentioning ||lost lace as the answer to the hardest boss question cus Im currently still struggling with her||

Im gonna do it though!!! eventually

probably

[trail pagoda]

its that time again

[mellow sigil]

||I didnt attempt Karmelita much yet wonder how much she will take me||

[trail pagoda]

you used the ||conjointed heart to go to lost lace?||

yk you lost a ||memento||

[mellow sigil]

whatevs

[slim fjord]

||robot yaoi|| is peak

[mellow sigil]

maybe on another playthrough

[tawdry osprey]

No

That one becomes it

It’s just the extra one

[opal totem]

||Which heart do you think makes the best memento||

[trail pagoda]

||Conjointed||

and it begins

[trail pagoda]

da big 3

[slim fjord]

||birb, spooder, and unholy abomination foreign from any god||

[trail pagoda]

now its time to ||ascend to the surface||

[barren ingot]

alright chat speculation time

what do you think will be the focus of the Silksong Content Expansions™

I think... ||Maybe more stuff like lost verdania? Exploring a dream realm seems like it has a lot of potential.||

my pipe dream is still a ||playable Act 3 postgame. Act 4, even||

[serene oxide]

obviously ||the coral tower|| isn't the last we've seen of the ||Crusty Kingdom||

[serene oxide]

i love playable postgames

it's why i love downpour campaigns

[barren ingot]

||It's considered 'cut content' for now, but yea that's one of the main things I expect to see from my first idea of more playable dream realms||

[velvet trench]

Something similar to pantheons, and I’d also like smth like dream bosses? Yk, harder versions of regular bosses. Idk what the reward for doing them would be tho, since it’s essence in HK

[barren ingot]

remember, this is a <@&981421790339403807> channel

cant go into detail

[serene oxide]

and I'm so glad I didn't!

[pearl oracle]

i loove chainsaw man

[serene oxide]

anyway, as you were saying about content expansions you wanted to see, @barren ingot

[serene oxide]

what do you imagine that being like

[barren ingot]

||No More Annoying Void Enemies™, some new quests about rebuilding the presumably struggling-to-rebuild population, etc. I understand that lore-wise it wouldn't make sense for certain enemy types to still be aggressive, but that's on team cherry to figure out.||

||also hornet and lace can hold hands||

[woven basin]

Guys what if

John silksong went SHAW then got hit in the head with a brick

[serene oxide]

i dunno if hornet's the type to ||help rebuild a population||

maybe ||no more haunting|| is good enough for her

[trail pagoda]

FUCKING FINALLY

[serene oxide]

good kob!

jon!

job!

[trail pagoda]

now its just ||lost lace||

honestly isnt as hard as this shit

[trail pagoda]

[trail pagoda]

dont tell me the ||journal completion (thus hunter memento) counts for 100% of the game||

[opaque shard]

Nah

none of the ||memontos|| count for a ℅

[trail pagoda]

thank god

[opaque shard]

Hunters one only gives an achievement

[trail pagoda]

then im assuming Im only missing tools

[opaque shard]

Probably do you have ||far sight?||

[trail pagoda]

yeah

im missing 9

3 red, 5 blue and 1 yellow

[opaque shard]

Mmm do you have the ones from the ants?

[trail pagoda]

||the spinny thingy?||

yep, upgraded also

[opaque shard]

Theres also some breakable walls in GM

[trail pagoda]

idk what reds I might be missing, I know 2 blues

[opaque shard]

You can send a screenshot ig

[trail pagoda]

two blues ik are from ||father of flames and pinmaster||

[opaque shard]

Lemme boot up the game rq lol

[opaque shard]

The reds one is hidden behind a wall in ||greymoore||

[trail pagoda]

isnt it near the ||bellhouse||

[opaque shard]

Yeah i thinknso

[trail pagoda]

I knew there was smth else there

[opaque shard]

yellow ones in ||sinners road||

For the blues;

Ones in ||mount fay||

Brought from ||grindle||

[trail pagoda]

totally forgor about this one

[opaque shard]

||pintresst|| boss

Also another blue accessible through a breakble wall in ||greymoore||

And I think ones in BW? ||bilewater||

[trail pagoda]

[slim fjord]

whats a good spot to farm rosaries?
the best one i've found so far is ||those giant bugs near the entrance to Cogwork Core, with grindle's tool it gives like 50 each||

[opaque shard]

i also used the same place made like 2k under a hour

[mellow sigil]

I FINALLY DID IT

||LOST LACE DOWN RAAAAHHHHHH||

I BEAT THIS FUCKING GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mellow sigil]

||76 hours🥹 🥹 🥹 ||

anyways time to go for 100%

[broken plover]

||each time Traitor lord kills me i do 1 pushup, Just did my 57th ||

[slim fjord]

10 pushups per hit

[hollow laurel]

This is the method to becoming half as strong as zote

[storm garnet]

||I SHOUDLVE DEALT WITH IT WHILE I HAD THE CHANCE||
postgame oilers

postgame oil
L

[trail pagoda]

im only missing this now

[mellow sigil]

end game soiler ||AWW THE ENDING GIVES ALL MENU STYLES LACE'S PIN||

||I thought its exclusive to one menu style ||

[hollow laurel]

Fun fact this also happens to ||moorwing||

[storm garnet]

glad i got rid of it lmao

[hollow laurel]

So close

[trail pagoda]

idk what tool it is

[hollow laurel]

I can’t remember which one it was

Oh I think I know which one? Maybe?

[trail pagoda]

welp

say the name and I can see it here

[hollow laurel]

||Do you have the floor trap one?||

[trail pagoda]

||tacks?||

[hollow laurel]

I seem to remember it being far down on the list

[hollow laurel]

Yeah ok so I’m wrong

[trail pagoda]

ohhh the one from ||the silk and soul quest?||

[clever furnace]

erm chat
I don't think that is supposed to happen

[hollow laurel]

Oh I know

[trail pagoda]

jumping food

[clever furnace]

I'll leave them alone

[hollow laurel]

It’s ||voltvessels||

[trail pagoda]

ohhhhhh the hollow purple one

[hollow laurel]

No unfortunately you can’t get that one again

[hollow laurel]

Yeah that’s the one

[trail pagoda]

time to search it

[hollow laurel]

Took me an annoying ammount of time to find it

[trail pagoda]

time for another ||lost lace fight||

[storm garnet]

postgame oilers
excuse me what

[hollow laurel]

||plasmium moment||

[trail pagoda]

its not the guy atleast

[clever furnace]

chat what's the trigger for savage beastfly 2

[trail pagoda]

idk

ohh no

its a wish

[hollow laurel]

||One of them is forth chorus||

[trail pagoda]

nice swim

[glad stratus]

||Oh my God you must be perfect at the game to get shakra to help you in the forum||

[trail pagoda]

id say dont even bother for ||forum help||

just bang your head against the wall enough times

[glad stratus]

||The forum isn't meant to be done solo||

Well this game is impossible

Like straight up

[mellow sigil]

I still think that ||Shakra|| is harder or at least as hard as ||forum|| itself if you beat her you can beat ||forum|| already lol

[glad stratus]

Incomplete-able without superhuman reaction

[hollow laurel]

Wall cheese :)

[storm garnet]

aimbot
postgame oierls

[mellow sigil]

I did not saw this

[storm garnet]

FUICK I JUST LOST SO MUCH MONEY

[glad stratus]

Yeah that does nothing

[trail pagoda]

have you tried the thingy I told you about yesterday?

[mellow sigil]

I didnt know cheese grows on walls

should probably check my walls.....

[glad stratus]

||let's just stand on the wall and oh??? What's that I can't hit the fucker trying to kill me? Let's go down a bit and uh oh I fucking died||

[glad stratus]

And what is that exactly? I forgot

[trail pagoda]

||longclaw wanderer crest||

[glad stratus]

||Idk where long claw is and I hate putrid ducts too much to look for it||

[trail pagoda]

||to the left, inside a house, help a spider and she gives it to you||

[hollow laurel]

You can hit them with hunter crest

[glad stratus]

||and what is the spiders quest exactly?||

[mellow sigil]

||a spider?!??!??????!!!?||

[glad stratus]

||Hunter crest is only good if you're able to no hit forum||

[trail pagoda]

||feed her children||

fucking keyboard

[trail pagoda]

yes

[glad stratus]

Oh my good lord the fucking ||maggot effect|| is the worst thing

||WHY DO FLYING ENEMIES HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH???||

[trail pagoda]

oh yeah forgot to mention ||putrified ducts has a tool for this also||

[glad stratus]

Oh yeah I got that

[trail pagoda]

for the ||maggot infection||

helps

[glad stratus]

||Yeah but then it breaks then what's the point not like there's many benches nearby||

[trail pagoda]

||constantly jump so it doesnt wear out as much||

lemme get a pic of where she lives

[glad stratus]

||I CANT ATTACK FUCKING DIAGNOLLY||

[glad stratus]

||STOP FUCKING MOVING YOU FUCKER||

||I HATE SPIT SQUITS||

AAAAAAA

WORST ENEMY

WORST FUCKING ENEMYKIIKEJWIE

[trail pagoda]

[glad stratus]

||now I'm at 2 hp which is just 1 hp because why the actual hell not?? And I can't heal because I'm infested||

[trail pagoda]

||she lives there where I putted a pin||

[glad stratus]

Every zone in this game is worse than the last

[barren ingot]

why are you still playing, I have solely seen you express negative emotions towards the game

[trail pagoda]

masochism

[glad stratus]

The game is fun, it's addicting as shit

[hollow laurel]

Yeah it’s really fun but wow some of the areas in this game were evil

[hollow laurel]

Yooo now do steel soul

[glad stratus]

My entire driving point is "What happens next?"

[glad stratus]

That's the only thing keeping me going

[trail pagoda]

ill need to do ||twisted child|| first

or I can just copy my save and load back to when I had ||the baby with me||

[glad stratus]

||Just gonna do the forum||

[glad stratus]

I'll get it done eventually

[trail pagoda]

thats what I said

[glad stratus]

No matter how long it takes.

Just gonna skip all this bullshit with assistance and do it.

[trail pagoda]

bang your head on the wall enough times, eventually it will fall

[glad stratus]

||no long claw no hunter crust just me and garmond.||

[trail pagoda]

if I managed to do all of that and more you can do it also

[trail pagoda]

with the power of friendship!

do you plan on doing ||act 3?||

[glad stratus]

Yeah but you probably steel souled the first game

[glad stratus]

Yeah

[trail pagoda]

actually, I played to false knight only

[trail pagoda]

||the final boss awaits you with a lot of slop||

[glad stratus]

||garmond is just the zote of silksong||

[trail pagoda]

this is the difference between the times in hk games

[glad stratus]

I have over 100 hours

In silksong

And I haven't done ||the forum|| yet

[trail pagoda]

I believe in you

[glad stratus]

||GARMOND HASNT HIT A SINGLE FUCKING THING||

HE IS A USELESS CHARACTER

You could remove him from silksong and not a DAMN thing would change

[trail pagoda]

||act 3 will make you sad||

[glad stratus]

||does he die???||

||As long as Zaza is alright then we good||

[trail pagoda]

||you kill him||

[glad stratus]

Good.

[trail pagoda]

[glad stratus]

||11 waves is too long||

I want this suffering to end

[trail pagoda]

Have you done ||groal the great?||

[glad stratus]

Not yet

[trail pagoda]

Well good luck ||you need to defeat him to get to act3||

Im sure you wont struggle against ||grand mother silk||

Its not as hard as it seems

[glad stratus]

I'm never beating this :(

[trail pagoda]

You are

Do you consistently get to the ||double big fella part?||

[glad stratus]

Yee

]ed

Yes

Yesyes

Yes

Yes

[trail pagoda]

Try to get them to the same side

People say it makes it easier to handle

I didn't do it but it might help

Oh yeah ||tacks might be helpful for initial dmg||

[glad stratus]

I fucking did it

||I couldve sworn there was more after the 2 big guys no???||

Oh my fucking God let's fucking go...

I actually

Fucking

Did it

HAHAHAHAAA

YESSS

HAHAAA

Oh my God

Omholy shit

We are IN chat

Let's fucking GOOO

[trail pagoda]

I told you would eventually get it

Now prepare yourself ||lace 2 is harder than grand mother silk itself||

[glad stratus]

And we RISE

HAH

[trail pagoda]

I dont really like ||reaper crest lategame cuz of this||

Most bosses are fast to say the least

[glad stratus]

||She is so fucking fast i can't react||

[trail pagoda]

Welp

Almost telegraphed huh

[glad stratus]

She reacts to everything I do

I cant

I cant

What

Is happening

[trail pagoda]

Thats the downside of ||reaper crest||

[glad stratus]

I'll use hunter for this fight I suppose

[trail pagoda]

Its not unusable but its harder for fast paced bosses

Have you been soiled about the ||act 3 final boss?||

If not ill let you discover by yourself

[glad stratus]

Not yet I don't[think

[trail pagoda]

Ill let you discover it by yourself then

Ah and if you dont like 2 mask dmg attack

||there are 3 mask dmg attacks||

[void prawn]

No need to soil act 1

[trail pagoda]

Ill basics always forget

Like how to fucking type

[void prawn]

Reaper crest

And beast crest too but that sucks

[trail pagoda]

Wanderer?

[void prawn]

Lowkey sucks too

Removes the entire new moveset Hornets supposed to have and the new fighting styles

Feels too basic compared to the entire other faster/heavier crests

[glad stratus]

It's for muscle memory for people who played the first hollow Knight

Thought that was common sense

But I suppose not

[void prawn]

I beat pure vessel and yet I still prefer hunter 💔

[glad stratus]

Cool, great

[void prawn]

It feels like it's for people who don't wanna adapt to Hornets play style

[trail pagoda]

I just play it cuz I want fast

[glad stratus]

Yeah THATS THE POINT it's for people who are USED TO THE OLD COMBAT MECHANICS

[trail pagoda]

Im a ||witch crest enjoyer||

[void prawn]

I'm not saying people shouldn't use it I'm just saying I don't use it because it feels like it removes the purpose of hornet having a different playstyle

[trail pagoda]

||shaman time||

I just need speedrun now

And steel soul etc etc

But thats just a minor issue

hows the fight going @glad stratus

[glad stratus]

Not good

[trail pagoda]

too fast?

[glad stratus]

Too fast

Impossible

Unbeatable

[trail pagoda]

its very doable

how many masks you got

[glad stratus]

Yeah if your perfect

[trail pagoda]

trust me, im not perfect and did it

[glad stratus]

||counter... CounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounterCounter||

[trail pagoda]

jump it

[glad stratus]

This is annoying

[trail pagoda]

wanna a lil soil of the ||act 3 boss? (only the name)||

[broken plover]

Make that 86 pushups

[trail pagoda]

[broken plover]

I fucking hate ||Traitor lord||

[glad stratus]

I won????

What?

What happened

She just

Died???

[trail pagoda]

its random

happens when you dont have boss healthbars

[glad stratus]

oh okay cool ||memory crystal|| is BUSTED

[barren ingot]

I wonder how much damage it does

[glad stratus]

Same

[trail pagoda]

interesting loadout id say

[glad stratus]

It worked

Somehow???

It's gotten me this far

[trail pagoda]

lemme soil you the name for the last boss of the game

[glad stratus]

John hornetkiller

[trail pagoda]

its fun

[glad stratus]

That's the name???

[trail pagoda]

no

maybe it will give you ptsd

[glad stratus]

||YO WE FOUND HER!!!!||

[trail pagoda]

dont let the name fool you

if you found her fight "fun" now, just wait

[glad stratus]

It wasn't fun, but I won from pure LUCK

[trail pagoda]

just wait for this fight

its really fun

surely not hard

[glad stratus]

I have a feeling you're lying

||also gms attacks are so confusing to dodge||

[trail pagoda]

how

[trail pagoda]

yes I am

[glad stratus]

||thr needles||

[trail pagoda]

just keep an eye on them

literally

[hollow laurel]

lost to ||lace 1||

[trail pagoda]

I will now get myself speedruning

time to watch the videos

[glad stratus]

||The game faked me outtt cmonn.... :(||

[trail pagoda]

welp

they are getting fast

[hollow laurel]

someone got under an hour today

58 minutes i think

[glad stratus]

Oh yay I can mod silksong to be at least slightly easier now

Hooray

[full vale]

real

:(

[trail pagoda]

you dont reallt need rosaries in ||act 3||

[trail pagoda]

its getting real fast

[glad stratus]

I have a mod that lets me switch to WHATEVER crests whenever so I'm gonna try ||Gms cloakless||

[mental shuttle]

I just realised grindle and sly have extremely similar voices

[vagrant crane]

Hey

I'm missing stuff and I have no idea where lese to look

I'm at 96% completion. Any hints for where to look?

[glad stratus]

||This mod is kinda a double edge sword, on one hand I have access to every crest and can swap without benches, but on the other hand I can't use silk skills or tools on crests I haven't "unlocked"||

[glad stratus]

Which imo is a very good drawback

||the mod also lets me see which crests I want to unlock next||

[quiet sentinel]

Here's a neat little list that's pretty helpful, try crossing stuff out on this

[trail pagoda]

And what about gms

[glad stratus]

Not worth it

Don't do ||Gms cloakless||

You cant

[trail pagoda]

Prob could

Did you beat her?

[vagrant crane]

||I'm missing a single mask shard (I think) and a single spool fragment. I also need a blue tool (I'm missing 2 but I know where 1 is). And I want to get the stuff im missing in the materium, and all mementos||

||What tools can be upgraded? I have the upgraded curveclaw and upgraded druid's eye but there might be other tools that can be upgraded||

||oh, add upgraded mirror. I've fought trobio 2||

[quiet sentinel]

Upgrading doesn't count for a percentage if that's what you're asking - if you just wanna know what can be upgraded, a wiki would be more useful than me

[vagrant crane]

I got that. I was just curious, lol

[quiet sentinel]

I didn't even know you could upgrade those 2

I always assumed the first was just for some extra rosaries so I never bothered going back

SICK

i love how much hidden stuff there is

[vagrant crane]

Here's how to upgrade them
||For the druid's eye, you take every mossberry in the game to the druid. It still gives silk after 2 hits but it gives 2 instead of 1.||
You found the other upgrade as I was typing how to get it 😭

[quiet sentinel]

Yea I just looked them all up

i guess ||claw mirrors count as an upgrade, so i did get those on accident at least, theyre quite unmissable||

[vagrant crane]

Lol yeah

Just curious, does it consider getting the ||plasmium gland and having free plasmium phial refills ||as an upgrade on the wiki?

[quiet sentinel]

I wouldn't count is an upgrade, it's more similar to a held item like the ||everbloom|| which just grants you a passive effect, cause it's not really upgrading anything

[barren ingot]

does that award a completion point? I never checked

[quiet sentinel]

It does not

[vagrant crane]

Same here. I was just curious if the wiki called it an upgrade

[quiet sentinel]

No tool upgrades award completion

Just having the initial one does

[glad stratus]

||YOO I HAVE A MOD THAT LET'S ME REFIGHT BOSSES YOOOO||

[shadow lagoon]

I don't like Silksong

[glad stratus]

Type shit

[hollow laurel]

i like silksong

[glad stratus]

||which ending is required for act 3 exactly||

[hollow laurel]

||act 3 is a spoiler||

[glad stratus]

Yeah that's hy I spoiled it

[hollow laurel]

||have you done all your quests by the way? or any fleas?||

[hollow laurel]

oh shit oops i guess i clicked it without realizeing...

[glad stratus]

I have to do ALL of them?

[hollow laurel]

||not all the fleas||

i think you only need 25

[glad stratus]

Quests

[hollow laurel]

oh i dont think you need to do all, but i think most are a requirement

[glad stratus]

Ngl I feel like shit because I had to beat ||GMS|| modded because it was too much going on :/

[glad stratus]

Also the health bar mod is very broken

[hollow laurel]

i think its funny not knowing how far you have gotten in a fight

[hollow laurel]

"surly the fights almost over... right?"

[glad stratus]

Eh all that matters is I had fun, I could always fight her again whenever I want

[hollow laurel]

this is true

[mental shuttle]

Lowkey
You beat the whoe rest of act 1 and 2
Shes fairly easy i bet you could do it

Like
Easier than anything else in act 2

[hollow laurel]

hope they add some difficulty to that fight at some point

[hardy jolt]

i think ive died more to this thing than ||gms|| /gen

[mental shuttle]

Real

[broken plover]

The way I was so fucking terrified seeing || Nosk disguised as me in deepnest for the first time, Thanks for the nightmare fuel team cherry!||

[quiet sentinel]

[hardy jolt]

wruff :3

[quiet sentinel]

wruffff

[broken plover]

||i need your honest opinion, will Weaversong help me wear down traitor lord||

[quiet sentinel]

[hardy jolt]

i mean

it does dmg

so yea

[void prawn]

There's freaking ||traitor lord|| IN SKONG?

[broken plover]

||no, Weaversong is the name of a charm in the first game||

[void prawn]

OHHH

you don't have to spoil hk

[hardy jolt]

yes but its still nice to :3

theres a few people here that are playing hk

[broken plover]

I just wanna tbh, don't wanna spoil any other new hk players

[void prawn]

It just makes my brain auto to act 2-3 of skong

[broken plover]

||Heard it has a synergy with grubsong, is this true||

Nvm

Nvm

Just figured it out ||the little spiders give you soul when they attack someone while you also have grubsong equipped||

[ruby cedar]

anyone else ||utterly disappointed by this sequel|| or is it just me

[hardy jolt]

just you

[ruby cedar]

why did i put that in spoilers

[quiet sentinel]

just you

[broken plover]

||this would be a Awesome cameo though, just imagine the reanimated corpse of Traitor lord just appearing in front of you||

[mellow sigil]

I definitely wasnt disappointed:D

[barren ingot]

I could see people being dissapointed, although mostly just because of the buildup of unrealistic expectations that can happen in the years of development

I personally think it's good, and my only big issues are in relatively easily fixable things like damage tweaks

[mellow sigil]

I think it lives up to high expectations though
Unless they were like.. completely ridiculous or expected it to be an entirely different game
SS is literally much more bigger and more evolved HK what else is there to expect

I wasnt waiting for it for 6 years though and wasnt a huge HK fan so maybe I just dont know yea

[mental shuttle]

What if silksong was evil

And

The whole game was just bilewater

[lusty trout]

No path of pain

+bilewater

[mellow sigil]

silksong if it was any fucking good

[hollow laurel]

Just wait for a mod to make every area just as bad

[queen trench]

where's the ||4th one anyway, according to google there are only 3 silk hearts... though of course the game is quite new so not all info will be known. If it's act 3 then please say it's act 3 and not exactly where it is||

[mental shuttle]

Wrong hearts 🥹

[queen trench]

ohhhhh, so it IS ||act 3||

alright that clarifies it thanks

[glad stratus]

||i want a mod that lets me go to act 3 (and let's me replay acts 1 and 2) without having to do random bullshit||

[mental shuttle]

You gotta get the quests so that it makes sense for the game to be the way it is

||in act 3||

Otherwise the continuity is all wack

[glad stratus]

I still wanna replay old acts without having to start a new save

[mental shuttle]

Yoy can technically?

If you make a backup

And then roll back ur save

But like
Why would you do that?

[mellow sigil]

what I want is a mod or some ||kind of extension that lets you roam Pharloom after you save it from the void🥹|| (post-game soiler)

[glad stratus]

Idk, just kinda wanting to experience the old stuff again I suppose

[mellow sigil]

Itll probably be very hard or long to make but imagine.....

[mental shuttle]

Post-post-game

[mental shuttle]

Its a bit hard to do something like that in a metroidvania

[mellow sigil]

do you all think that ||the parkour challenge above the cradle|| is as hard as path of pain???

bruh discord just crashed after I send that

[mellow sigil]

I didnt go far in it yet but Ive seen it getting compared?? I suspect its something similar right

[hardy jolt]

nahh

[opaque shard]

Not really tbh

hornets skills make it not that hard (fun tho)

[digital robin]

We are talking about a different type of hearts. But still there are effectively 4 silk hearts ||one is a blue Tool, which act as an extra silk hearts||. It can be found in ||ATLA|| during the end of act 1 (is better to grab it at the tail-end of act 2)

[mental shuttle]

Its hardly similar

||cog core|| was harder 💔

[mellow sigil]

I mean Im struggling on it a lil
but I first-tried ||cog core||

its alright Im gonna do it though

[mental shuttle]

||surface ascent|| is just tedious

Its just the same 3 platforms copy pasted 💔

[mellow sigil]

yeah kinda tru.......

unfortunately

[opaque shard]

||surface ascent||

[quiet sentinel]

[mellow sigil]

ough it was shorter than I thought

yeah its definitely not "silksong's path of pain"

damn you youtube clickbait!!!!!!!!!!

[hardy jolt]

paws at u :3

[mellow sigil]

how do you ||do the secret??? old mushroom???? quest??? (I know nothing about it) btw
what do you even start with||

[hardy jolt]

it starts at ||pale lake||

[mellow sigil]

oohh:0 alright thanks

I wanted to visit it already I forgor

[quiet sentinel]

squishes your paw beans with my paws

im currently stuck at work BUT

its surprisingly cozy tonight

i guess noone wants to fly on fridays

[hardy jolt]

mriiauu

[hardy jolt]

thats awesome :3

[quiet sentinel]

:3

wruff

[distant holly]

silksong’s path of pain is called ||"bilewater"||

[hardy jolt]

arf arf wroof bark woof :3

[mental shuttle]

Guys they just announced this

[hardy jolt]

pablo

[ashen badger]

PABLO
OFF Crossover

[mellow sigil]

I actually like the art a lot

and the character looks great

[ashen badger]

Move it football head

[tawdry osprey]

pablo

[queen trench]

is this real.... it doesn't really look real...

yeah it's not real

alright

[mental shuttle]

Its not 💔

[opal totem]

Why is Pablo in bilewater

[opaque shard]

Its is real smh

[tawdry osprey]

It’s real wdym

[dim harbor]

this boy is so bloody tanky, i should get nail upgrades first, i think

[opal totem]

It's a girl

[mental shuttle]

Omg genius idea

Definitely not stolen from another game

||when you go for act 3 GMS should have an extra phase, just to spice it up since its your second time fighting her||

[opal totem]

I think she should be buffed just in general

[mental shuttle]

That too

But like

[opal totem]

||"But she's like hollow knight fight" except she's a godlike being so it doesn't really work||

[mental shuttle]

She was sealed away for like
Forever

[opal totem]

She's sleepy

[mental shuttle]

You expect someone to fight at full capacity when they just woke up???

[opal totem]

I expected more than what we got

[opal totem]

||Also doesn't the same apply to radiance||

[mental shuttle]

Idea definitely not stolen from like
Nine sols or anything

[opal totem]

Or was she just chilling there

[dim harbor]

ah, and yeah her attack patterns are really easy, but shes so bloody tanky and with her ||teleporting away from half the hits it takes ages||

[mental shuttle]

She is NOT tanky

[opal totem]

Which one

||First sinner?||

She has ok health I think

[mental shuttle]

Oh wait

[opal totem]

GMS does not have a lot of health yeah

[mental shuttle]

Use ur ||grapple|| if you have it
Idk if you need it for PD

[dim harbor]

maybe?
i know i defeated most bosses faster then her first phase

[opal totem]

How many needle upgrades do you have

[dim harbor]

only the first one

[opal totem]

Ok then yeah

I'd get at least a second one

[dim harbor]

i was trying to get the thingys but i could not find it in ||blasted steps||

[opal totem]

You need ||double jump|| to access the fight so yeah

But it's doable with just sprint combos

[hardy jolt]

awwoooooo

[tawdry osprey]

||cursed ending:||

you cant buff her

[opal totem]

Why not

[storm garnet]

postgame spoilers
||TROOOOOOOOOOBBBIIOOOOO||

[hardy jolt]

||TROBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOO||

[barren ingot]

||imagine: DLC where you get the Act 3 equivalent for hallownest, playable as hornet. Like, you get to play in hallownest and see what was going on there after the ending in hollow knight. It'd be easy to make since they already have the whole map, and you wouldn't need to add that much||

[opaque shard]

||TROBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO||

[storm garnet]

question, postgame
||so the vendor is gone, and im pretty sure i had unpurchased items,,, is it gone or was it moved to another vendor?||

||I assume it was moved to the blasted steps vendor, just checking though||

[opaque shard]

Ya mean the "steady body" like tool?

[storm garnet]

ohgh nvm then

that wasnt there

[opaque shard]

||you can find his corpse||

[storm garnet]

oH

just found it lmao

[tawdry osprey]

yes

[split sluice]

Postgame spoilers ||I think taking the green prince’s heart is the best ending for him, finally reunited with his partner, and getting to enjoy a dance with him one last time||

||Also I just learned you can bounce the beastlings, peam||

[quiet sentinel]

Its very bittersweet

team cherry loves their doomed yaoi

[split sluice]

There’s non-doomed yaoi in HK

[opaque shard]

Imagine in hk 3 sheo and nailsmith die

[split sluice]

no

[split sluice]

||eternal damnnation in bilewater for your sin||

[opaque shard]

what if i like the popowater?

[split sluice]

One of us

[opaque shard]

Ngl i really like the designs of the ||big flying enemies that puke lol||

[split sluice]

I have grown to unironically like ||bilewater||

[opaque shard]

Also the platforming and music reminds me of white palace

[opaque shard]

The BW consumes

[split sluice]

The church of BW

[quiet sentinel]

not if you kill him

[split sluice]

||also (very technicality) Phantom is a bilewater boss||

[opaque shard]

BW gotta be my fav gender

[quiet sentinel]

true

[split sluice]

Gender of causing pain and agony to those who don’t accept the suffering

I love the suffering now so

[opaque shard]

Embrace the pain

[split sluice]

Also Can’t wait for most enemies in HK 3 to deal 3 damage

[storm garnet]

cant wait for pablo to release

[opaque shard]

In HK 3 youll play as pablo, exploring the long forgotten empire of shitsen the 3rd filled with dangerous foes, challenges, and fights but also with the allies to help you on your journey

[storm garnet]

it will take 12 YEARS to develop

[opal totem]

That's 3 evil benches

[opaque shard]

In the empire long ruined where the popowater is taking over it theres rot everywhere and pablo has to get the help of perry the playtpus from the hit animation phineas and ferb

[storm garnet]

postgame oilers
||im stacked now i cant lose anymore||

nvm im ass at the game

[distant holly]

the hollow knight was born of two gods and void (also godlike)

[opal totem]

So was broken vessel and he's nowhere close to being as strong as rad

||Even grand mother's children are stronger than her||

[distant holly]

still godlike though

[opal totem]

Hollow knight gods suck at being godlike then

Some of them at least

[distant holly]

it’s not exactly hard though

[distant holly]

i mean i guess

[tawdry osprey]

You buff her and it becomes a nightmare getting that one 🥹

[distant holly]

just make a phase that’s skipped on it

what even happens in this ending? it’s very vague 💔

[opal totem]

||Wood|| happens

||Grey wood|| even

[distant holly]

||i guess hornet and grand mother silk die, turn to the greyroot. but it didn’t show consequences for pharloom at all||

[barren ingot]

secret good ending

[distant holly]

it really can be though

||no more silk control from gms. but it’s unclear what greyroot wants||

[barren ingot]

||is the wood of shellwood just the body of that character? (and the other wood area where you get the baby) 🤔||

||maybe it just wants to grow||

[woven gulch]

Can an expert on act 3 tell me what are the things I should do before entering the act 3, in case I miss something and that

[distant holly]

||shakra duel||

[woven gulch]

Aight

[distant holly]

||all other endings will be inaccessible too||

[opal totem]

Anything you can miss is optional

[woven gulch]

Oh damn

[distant holly]

also ||silk stealing things can be eliminated in high halls||

they can’t be in ||act 3||? i think

[opal totem]

I don't see why not

Does that area get blocked off

[split sluice]

I have a random lore thought: ||We know that Hornet is part pale being, and her half siblings (the vessels) were born of two pale beings and the void. In the standard SS ending Hornet essentially allows the Weaver part to take over. In the DNM and EtV ending the knight casts away its pale shell, becoming a being purely void essentially. That leads me to my idea: Is the knight we see by the era of silksong a new kind of higher being? One that’s the opposite, but not always the enemy of the pale beings|| postgame spoilers

[clever furnace]

chat did u know sherma has special needolin dialogue in (act 2 area) ||whiteward||?

[opal totem]

Yeah

[quiet sentinel]

The fact that we see ||shade lord flash in true ending cutscenes confirms the fact that Ghost is ascended and attuned with the void through Godhome ascension||

So yes, they are now essentially on the same level if not higher than what absrad was

||Tamed the void||

[split sluice]

||Name Idea for the being type: Shadow being, being one of the lingering remainders of a Pale Being’s plight, a shadow of that, and being composed of void||

[quiet sentinel]

I mean what I just said is up to interpretation, but it's what I like to believe :)

[split sluice]

I think ||Based on the ending, the Shade Lord does exist, but it’s only a small portion of the void that is under it’s control at any time||

[quiet sentinel]

Yea - which makes sense

[split sluice]

||Given how the void tendrils attacked hornet when she was diving, and we can see the Knight was not pleased with that||

[quiet sentinel]

Void is described as 2 reoccurring things; regrets and lack of thereof ("nothingness") through lore tablets + dialogues and journal entires

[clever furnace]

chat how do I get up there (act 2 area)

[quiet sentinel]

Void carries those regrets in it which is why it acts so hostile is why I imagine

[opal totem]

You get there with the next movement ability I think

[storm garnet]

a3 oilers
I hate this

[split sluice]

||I think the knight is essentially the ‘mind’ of the Shade lord as well, the one in control while all the other siblings form the “shell”||

[clever furnace]

nvm I got it

It allowed me to cling grip after I used (act 2 ability) ||claw line||

[split sluice]

||loads coral launcher with malicious intent||

[opal totem]

I remember there being two ceiling holes, I couldn't get to one until late game

[quiet sentinel]

uhmmm

[clever furnace]

(act 2 area) DAYUM...

[quiet sentinel]

?

it should allow you to cling

[opal totem]

It doesn't

[clever furnace]

as you saw by the clip it did NOT allow to cling

[quiet sentinel]

you didnt even try

you just kept trying to go up to the 2nd indent

[clever furnace]

what the fuck

Can you find ||the other pinstress sister?||

[opal totem]

Bugs

[quiet sentinel]

im pretty positive you shouldve been able to, grappling doesnt make a difference on flat surfaces

it will cling you regardless of if you grapple or not

[opal totem]

It's a slope though

[split sluice]

Post game spoilers ||I truly believe that the shade lord is a non-malicious entity, it does what it thinks is ‘good’ for those that it’s components liked (just hornet)||

[quiet sentinel]

not that one

[clever furnace]

Where

[quiet sentinel]

that one is specifically elongated enough

[opal totem]

PD

You probably found her already

[quiet sentinel]

if it requires ||silk soar|| then im just brain loss

[clever furnace]

Secret room?

@quiet sentinel

[opal totem]

||Wreath of purity|| room

[hollow laurel]

||I think it’s just somewhat thankful for how Hornet helped||

[quiet sentinel]

okay thanks

i thought i was going crazy lol

[hollow laurel]

Actually || I think it helping Hornet is points away from it the canon ending being godhome||

[quiet sentinel]

basically soul twister v2

its so messed up lol

||injecting silk into bugs and them not surviving the process||

[clever furnace]

oh nvm you can just make it, it's unusually tight though

[quiet sentinel]

Also after seeing that cut secret ending, I understand what happened to gms' previous captors

No wonder we never see any of them in the ||cradle||

she absorbed them

Which explains why she had to deal with ||clawmaidens and all the other outdated silk twister machines and junk for her silken curses||

Then again idk if I should regard cut content as canon

But it makes so much sense though :(

[clever furnace]

aight time for (act 2 boss) ||unravelled||

surely I first try em

[quiet sentinel]

gl

actually you will shred so hard with barbed LOL

pops up once, phase change

[hollow laurel]

I really disliked that fight

[quiet sentinel]

trust

it was fine

[hollow laurel]

Though nothing can be as bad as ||groal||

[quiet sentinel]

i just tanked everything the entire fight

projectiles do 1, so just sit and slash away

heal when he dives

repeat

i did end up no hitting him to redeem myself for that hk gameplay

[clever furnace]

lmfao I phase changed so hard with (act 2 needle upgrade) ||hivesteel||

[hollow laurel]

Idk it was just a bit boring

[quiet sentinel]

peak

[distant holly]

what’s that

i forgot

[quiet sentinel]

man silksong hate is so forced

[opal totem]

Difficulty hate is understandable

[clever furnace]

got hit twice like a noob but still made it

[distant holly]

soul sanctum you mean

[quiet sentinel]

?

soul twister is the name of the charm that you get from the injection machine

its the soul twister machine v2

[distant holly]

not even them themself but terrible waves of enemies before

[distant holly]

oh

||injector band||?

[quiet sentinel]

but yea|| whiteward|| is basically soul sanctum 2 lol

[distant holly]

yeah

[quiet sentinel]

no no

[quiet sentinel]

this one

thats the one i was referring

[distant holly]

||silk is just soul (according to materium)|| and the goals are the same

[quiet sentinel]

||the silk injector ||

[quiet sentinel]

and song is from the soul...

you could almost say it's a silksong..

[distant holly]

i mean that’s what the name means

hornet uses silk, and pharloom is song themed

[clever furnace]

who could've guessed

[distant holly]

just like if hollow knight was literally a hollow knight

[quiet sentinel]

random silksong fact that i learnt just earlier, the ||slab sequence that gives you the different capeless combat is actually applied via an invisible crest called capeless crest ||

pretty cool that thats the way it works

[clever furnace]

did any of you repeat ||the slab sequence|| after the first time
I personally avoided ||cage wardenfly ground pound|| like the plague on second playthrough

[quiet sentinel]

oh yea another cool interaction with ||slab stuff is getting captured while cursed ||

though that one is more common knowledge i think

whats the video about i cant really tell

i think it might be a new update but im not too sure

[opal totem]

I wanted to but didn't want to risk it

[icy basin]

yup 30h is def doable

||currently at nylith for first heart cuz i need to go get delver's drill||

also ||seth|| is still hard

[barren ingot]

probably top 5 in difficulty tbh

number 1 hardest boss is ||seth flea game scores||

[split sluice]

Chat, thoughts on Styx?

[serene oxide]

relatable

[split sluice]

NGL ||Seth is unironically like the second hardest boss for me, behind lost lace||

[barren ingot]

||carmelita was def harder for me (and I think most)||

[serene oxide]

making me regret going to ||lost verdania|| for what

[barren ingot]

the river?

[serene oxide]

the ||silkeater maker||

how does an all female population of weavers reproduce

oh right

bugs

[clever furnace]

chat which one do I put on for my last blue slot (some act 2 tools)

[serene oxide]

||warding bell||

oh wait the emperor said we don't need to spoiler act 1 stuff

[serene oxide]

warding bell

[clever furnace]

nah, I rather not use anything that buffs binding

[split sluice]

warding bell doesn’t really do that much IMO

[serene oxide]

it can damage the enemies if they hit near the end of binding

at least i think so

[split sluice]

It’s good for avoiding damage, but you still get punished hard

[clever furnace]

don't need to bind if you kill the foes first

[serene oxide]

also, last of three blue slots?

[split sluice]

||at that point why not use mirror?||

[serene oxide]

because I don't see it

[split sluice]

Pollip pouch if you like red tool use

[clever furnace]

hm, imma use ||spool extender|| for now, maybe there's something else later that more directly buffs either needle or silk skill damage output

[serene oxide]

that's probably the best choice

[clever furnace]

and no I literally don't have active tools equipped

[icy basin]

yes

[icy basin]

||injector band my beloved||

[icy basin]

fair enoigh

[icy basin]

oh

[clever furnace]

why bind when you can kill before getting hit

[distant holly]

btw does ||the last battle in the slab theme has the hornet leitmotif?||

maybe i’m crazy

[quiet sentinel]

whats the name of the soundtrack, i can give it a listen rn

[distant holly]

honestly, i don’t know

it is the one playing ||when hornet regains items and fight them||, if anybody knows

[distant holly]

maybe they’re all made by ||grand mother silk||

the original weavers i mean, not half weavers like hornet obviously

[serene oxide]

i guess so

[distant holly]

you can but it doesn’t protect from damage. you can even use both for more damage

[serene oxide]

the ||weaver cages|| in ||the cradle have only mixed weavers||

[clever furnace]

ooooh that's what "||in eighth part or in quarter part||" means

[distant holly]

even add ||the witch crest||. basically like the thread storm anytime you heal

[quiet sentinel]

actually it is lace leitmotif

[serene oxide]

yeup

[quiet sentinel]

but yea it does use a leitmotif as the lead viola

actually even the cello sounds like it does in lace theme

it has a lot of close similarities

[distant holly]

main menu also seem to use hornet leitmotif, well it’s obvious thinking about it

[quiet sentinel]

i wonder if that means anything

[distant holly]

well

[quiet sentinel]

i actually know very little to no slab lore

[distant holly]

||they definitely had an order from lace or grand mother silk to catch hornet||

[quiet sentinel]

other than its just disguised to be a place where you can attone for your "sins"

another propaganda thing

[distant holly]

yeah

[quiet sentinel]

is there a comandment of that or somethinbg

[distant holly]

it’s a really cool sequence i think

[quiet sentinel]

it is

[velvet trench]

Too bad i couldnt play it

[quiet sentinel]

i audibly gasped when ||hornet crashes out||

blu was laughing his ass off

[quiet sentinel]

chiki youre so good you never got caught

[distant holly]

i don’t think so? i mean, aside of the fact that’s basically the main reason hornet is in pharloom after all. ||i think it’s reasonable to assume they tried to catch hornet again||

[quiet sentinel]

mmmmm true

im not denying that

[velvet trench]

Ill be real ive got zero clue on the lore

Cant wait for a 3hr lore video though

[quiet sentinel]

so excited for mossbag content again

i love his videos a lot

[distant holly]

||i don’t know how much damage hornet does without the needle. but it’s pretty unique to use saws placed on the arena to attack.

also, nice they didn’t forget to make it impossible to pogo on spikes lol. and the pogo is like on the hunter crest, makes sense since it’s hornet’s style.||

[quiet sentinel]

RAHHH LORE ESSAY VIDEOS ON MY HYPERFIXATIONS RAH

[distant holly]

team cherry are afraid of adding real snow

||that’s the second time they do it, after kingdom’s edge||

||this time the place is actually cold, making it even weirder||

[velvet trench]

Yeah what actually is it? Some sort of plant?

I couldnt tell

[quiet sentinel]

cant wait for the dlc

[opal totem]

I think it's snow

At least some of it

[distant holly]

it looks kinda like dandelions

[velvet trench]

Yeah

[quiet sentinel]

its dandelion fluff

but there are snowflakes and ice

[opal totem]

||Pinstress|| seems to be covered in snow

[icy basin]

why bind when you can no hit everything

[quiet sentinel]

i think the higher you get it transitions into snow

[distant holly]

or maybe it’s ||fayforn fluff|| actually

[quiet sentinel]

is there a hq map

[quiet sentinel]

why is this fatass shedding all over me

dumb pigeon

[distant holly]

maybe it’s both snow and evil dandelions, it’s unclear what it is

[velvet trench]

Evil dandelions

[quiet sentinel]

what if hornet has allergies :(

[distant holly]

it’s not cold, hornet just crystallizes from dandelion allergy

[quiet sentinel]

oh (postgame spoilers)

[opal totem]

I think Hornet is allergic to Nates

[quiet sentinel]

here i was happy about my nohit and now people are doing 2 at once??

that sounds unreal and difficult

very difficult

especially if they desync

[distant holly]

||new boss, grandmother silk. like grand mother but old||

[trail pagoda]

[quiet sentinel]

okay yea they desync

thats messed up

[distant holly]

9.8%???

silksong fans are insane

[trail pagoda]

gms isnt that hard

[quiet sentinel]

LMAO

[opal totem]

I bet most of them just didn't know how to get rid of ||curse||

[velvet trench]

Im probably gonna replay the game to get the ||cursed endings cause I found it and cured it super early, like before I got any of the melodies, and doing all that cursed sounds annoying||

[quiet sentinel]

Yea I'm surprised so many are doing it, it probably won't be a rare achiev soon anymore 🥹

[opal totem]

You can roll back to pre ending save backup

[trail pagoda]

make a copy of your save so you can revert to when you got the ||twisted bud/child||

[opal totem]

Or pre ||curse||

[velvet trench]

Does it save that? That was soo long ago

[quiet sentinel]

man you cant say that

[trail pagoda]

it saves important points

[opal totem]

It saves any major event

[velvet trench]

Is ||twisted bud|| major is what i meant

[opal totem]

It is

[velvet trench]

Hm

[distant holly]

yeah but ||no healing and no tools makes it a challenge. not the hardest in game, but still||

[quiet sentinel]

huh is that what restore points are?

[trail pagoda]

i think getting ||cursed is, but twisted bud no, so any major event before curse and just get the bud||

[barren ingot]

I wonder... ||do you think Groal took some inspiration from dodongo and allows you to feed it a pompillo for massive damage?||

[quiet sentinel]

i saw them when i was copying a save for godhome and didnt know what they were

[distant holly]

random but the hell you can even use ||4 yellow tools on wanderer||

[trail pagoda]

I did gms first try no tools, only heals basically, then I did nohit

[velvet trench]

I got it like, after ||cling grip||...ill just do another save

[opal totem]

Pretty sure I saw ||getting cursed and rid of it|| in my backups list

[quiet sentinel]

would you just rename the files

and how do you know which is which

[velvet trench]

I saw ||cursed|| yea but again my thing was it was soo long ago, its not worth it

[opal totem]

It's in the game

The arrow thing beside your save

[trail pagoda]

thats what I said, getting the ||twisted bud item itself i think is not a major event||

[quiet sentinel]

wtf cool

[velvet trench]

Like 70h ago 🥹

[quiet sentinel]

i had no idea lol

[opal totem]

Press the button and it lists many events it made backups for

[distant holly]

heals make it way easier lol . it’s not exactly hard but it’s really easy to mess up too

[trail pagoda]

nah

[velvet trench]

Yeah its nice, and for once a backup system is on console 🙏

[trail pagoda]

||one eye for each set of needles||

[quiet sentinel]

i never knew :3

[velvet trench]

looking at you rain world

[quiet sentinel]

console still doesnt have the backup feature?

[velvet trench]

Nope

[opal totem]

RW backups aren't on console?

[quiet sentinel]

damn that sucks lol

good thing i dont have a console

[opal totem]

Good thing my only console is a portable pc

[distant holly]

why i didn’t saw the taunt button in settings lol

[quiet sentinel]

i have a laptop thats dying out on me though

one day it will breathe its final breath

and i will be so sad