Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[clever furnace]

uhhhh, ||abyss||
lookin good for this stage

[distant holly]

no

[glad stratus]

Alright

Now where the fuck is shakra

[distant holly]

||bellhart probably||

[glad stratus]

||Nope||

[distant holly]

[clever furnace]

ok so fun fact the last judge can backstep but then immediately step forward and touch you for 2 damage
funny, more enemies should abuse contact damage

[glad stratus]

Where do I find shakra after doing her quest?

[mental shuttle]

100% silksong while cursed

[distant holly]

greymoor?

right next to bellhart

[glad stratus]

Where in greymoor

Not there

I don't see her

[mental shuttle]

The entrance to bellhart

[distant holly]

is there a ring?

[glad stratus]

Not that I saw lemme check again

[mental shuttle]

Did you actually do the quest in BW???

Oops misclick

[clever furnace]

there you go, now this one was clean, what do you folks think

[mental shuttle]

No magma bell is evil btw

[clever furnace]

watch entire thing
is no hit

[mental shuttle]

Oh damn

Love the part when she said BURGER

[glad stratus]

||I think so, I have every map, and her thing in bellhart looks abandoned||

[mental shuttle]

Did you collect her quest from the wishwall

[glad stratus]

Oh

[mental shuttle]

💔

[distant holly]

[mental shuttle]

You gotta do her quest before duelling her

Sob

[clever furnace]

man getting an extra spool is so satisfying to hear

[glad stratus]

This is gonna take 3 years to do (I hate BW)

[clever furnace]

(early act 2 spoiler) ||fun fact you can skip underworks and go straight to choral chambers by taking a hidden entrance ||

[mental shuttle]

BW ALMOST fulfils the peak thay is deepnest

Its just a TAD bit too big

[glad stratus]

This place is a sin to God

[lusty trout]

||wormways || is deepnest of silksong tho

[mental shuttle]

No

[glad stratus]

The entire game is the deepnest of silksong

[clever furnace]

man ||clawmaiders|| sure are joykillers
good that ||you can get rid of them permanently ||

[glad stratus]

Magnetite dice are one of my favorite items

[lusty trout]

Its just gambling

[glad stratus]

Nothing is more reliving that hearing that "POP" as you live another minute

[lusty trout]

Also spoiler?

[glad stratus]

You can unlock it in act 1

I think

[clever furnace]

yep

guy got limited rosary supply, exhausting it prompts em to give the dice to hornet
there's a lil sneaky trick to guarantee a win each roll

[glad stratus]

||I just let him die that's my secret trick||

[clever furnace]

lol

[lusty trout]

I need more bollets

[clever furnace]

after a few seconds of rolling the dice hornet does a lil hand move and the dice flash, releasing the dice at that moment makes hornet grunt and guarantees a win on that roll

the guy got 40 rosaries when meeting em

[quiet sentinel]

did you all see the secret cut ending from silksong

[opal totem]

I saw that it exists

[quiet sentinel]

it looks like it wouldve happened if you didnt ||bind after defeating gms||

its cool

i wonder why it was cut

[clever furnace]

man why did I ever say I hated barbed bracelet I absolutely adore its damage bonus

[quiet sentinel]

barbed bracelet steelsoul run when

[clever furnace]

maybe after I 100%

[quiet sentinel]

its a solid bosskiller if you can flawless them, i used it on ||savage beastfly 2||

[clever furnace]

imma try not to quit cheese, no guarantees though

[quiet sentinel]

yea lmao

its high risk high reward

[quiet sentinel]

im refusing to do that, so now ive lost 9 steel soul runs

its frustrating to say the least

[clever furnace]

try out ||max hunter crest hivesteel needle barbed bracelet against lace 2||
||it just straight up deletes her lol||

[distant holly]

it adds just 25% more damage

[mental shuttle]

Whuuuuu

[quiet sentinel]

tbf ||lace|| is kinda a pushover

once of the most predictable bosses (i no hit all 3 of her fights)

[mental shuttle]

Show me

[clever furnace]

oh you felt ||her low hp|| too? kind of a shame

[quiet sentinel]

her low hp is balanced by her lighted faster moveset

i think all the fights are great

[quiet sentinel]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0gWOVrdGEg||

[mental shuttle]

Thanks

[barren ingot]

||slab melee steel soul run when||

you just know the randomizers will start off with that

[quiet sentinel]

oh no ☹️

[mental shuttle]

The game if you just leave through that one place in blasted

[distant holly]

[quiet sentinel]

my theory is that after failing to bind ||(it doesnt show in this video but she grabs you like a really tight bear hug) and she takes control of hornets silk abiilities to expand her reach all over||

like so

[glad stratus]

This is so annoying

[clever furnace]

should've been kept lol
||ACHIEVEMENT GET! Didn't press the button on the world's easiest QTE lol||

[quiet sentinel]

yea, im upset it was cut, its a really cool cutscene and easter egg
i wouldnt tie an achievement behind it, but id still have enjoyed it in the game

maybe it clashes with the lore team cherry is trying to build

but it just seems like ||gms winning|| is what that ending is, she got what she wanted and hornet was brought directly to her for that purpose

sad to see it gone

and we already have a bad ending too ||(cursed)||

maybe one bad ending is enough in their eyes

hk also only had one bad one
well unless you count godhome endings as bad

[mental shuttle]

Evil today

[quiet sentinel]

oh yea speaking of, i think i now agree with godhome ending being the canonical one after checking out true silksong ending a bit more

the idea came back after watching another mossbag godhome video for the 5th time

[distant holly]

is it even bad

[quiet sentinel]

the fact that ||shade lord appears for a second is meant to insinuate the knight has ascended, which means it did godhome||

||that paired with the fact that hornet saves the knight multiple times that route as well makes me pretty sure||

[quiet sentinel]

yes?

||hornet dies and unleashes a parasite to take over and create its own cycle||

[distant holly]

it’s not very clear what happened to pharloom

[quiet sentinel]

that sounds pretty bad to me, lol

[hollow laurel]

||not necessarily there was a time gap between the games||

[quiet sentinel]

its just going to infect more things with hornets abilities now imbued in it

[clever furnace]

||can't really know the intentions of the parasite||

[quiet sentinel]

i mean judging by the fact that multiple people tell you of they feel a bad thing from you

it seems pretty bad to me, lol

idk how thats even up for debate

[clever furnace]

oh yea true

[glad stratus]

I WAS SO CLOSE

[clever furnace]

I'm convinced dw

[quiet sentinel]

youre welcome to your own theories

mutliple people agree godhome is canonical and i am just agreeing with that opinion

[hollow laurel]

im sorry i just hate the thought that godhome might be canon

[quiet sentinel]

i was against it for a while but i see it now

dream no more is possible but godhome just has more ties

[hollow laurel]

im not saying i dont agree i just dont like it

[quiet sentinel]

more proof = better

[distant holly]

obviously sealed siblings is canon

[hollow laurel]

maybe the dlc will clear things up

[opal totem]

You're all wrong

[hollow laurel]

i mean... mr mushroom is canon

[opal totem]

Team cherry clearly said all endings are canon

[hollow laurel]

this is true

[glad stratus]

I HATE THIS

[distant holly]

sealed siblings is incompatible with silksong 💔

maybe it’s canon but it isn’t canon that silksong could be in

[hollow laurel]

no matter what happened in the game the knight went around the world finding mr mushrooms hiding spots

[distant holly]

so it’s not relevant

[opal totem]

||Don't do silk and soul and pretend it's a prequel||

[quiet sentinel]

that wouldnt work though considering hornet references hallownest and that kingdom and gods falling ect ect multiple times

[hollow laurel]

||except for the numerous times that hornet mentions stuff happening in hallownest||

[quiet sentinel]

even the infection

[opal totem]

Pretend harder

Must be a coincidence

[hollow laurel]

the games lore is wrong

[opal totem]

True

[hollow laurel]

silksong isnt canon

[distant holly]

||neither cursed or normal ending allow hornet to escape 💔||

[quiet sentinel]

maybe the game is still a collective dream of ours and nothing is real about it

silksong NEVER released

[glad stratus]

THIS IS SO UNNECESSARILY DIFFICULT

[opal totem]

Silksong is an official AU

[clever furnace]

yes, team cherry is bad at storytelling and only my canon is right clearly

[distant holly]

silksong is the dream hornet has in the black egg, sealed

[hollow laurel]

its a fanfiction from the devs

[quiet sentinel]

funnily enough team cherry doesnt know half their lore
or they pretend they dont

in an interview they explain that they just enjoy leaving things up to interpretation

[distant holly]

that’s all games

[hollow laurel]

they just make stuff up

[distant holly]

it’s not very smart to have no room for interpretation in lore

it would be boring

[quiet sentinel]

i like the idea of team cherry seeing a theory and going oh wow thats so cool lets add that

[oak swift]

Its creative liberty, almost all the creators I've known have made things then decided to give it more story later

[distant holly]

and will make any potentially sequels and spinoffs way harder

[quiet sentinel]

yea thats what im doing for my game

[hollow laurel]

hungry knight: silksong when?

[glad stratus]

I'm actually about to start sobbing

[oak swift]

All creators do this, the fun is to make it connect to each other in a fun way

[distant holly]

really, devs usually just have main lore points defined, not completely everything

[oak swift]

If a person is "big brained enough" to always think 3 stories ahead, they arent gonna even finish their first story

[oak swift]

Main simple points yeah

But not everything

[quiet sentinel]

though rn ive been really enjoying coming up with content over the lore writing :3

[oak swift]

||Greyroot is probably connected to white lady in some way|| is an example, how they are related we nor team cherry knows yet (probably on their part)

[hollow laurel]

either way hey silksong released almost 3 weeks ago

[distant holly]

it would be too much effort, and it will make all theories almost guaranteed to be wrong

no way to guess the correct way, or it’s so obvious it isn’t interesting

[quiet sentinel]

we love ability slot systems

[hollow laurel]

essence?????? like the thing from hollow knight??????

[quiet sentinel]

essences are basically gonna be the charm equivalent in my game

[clever furnace]

I do enjoy my share of linear stories though...

[quiet sentinel]

you change your own biostructure with them to enhance and augment yourself

either through magical or mechanical means :3

[clever furnace]

some may call me out for having child tastes but wtv

[oak swift]

No? Theories will still have good merits, and the fun of a theory is to basically connect dots, even if its harder for the future its easier in the present

Making rooms and proper structures is hard and creativity in making it all connect wains a lot, so often times their connection to things happens after you already have the room/concept design done since its just easier to do that

[quiet sentinel]

but thats just a theory...

a..

💥

actually i wonder if game theory will learn from their hollow knight theory mistake and make a new silksong theory video or if they wont touch the title at all lmao

since they got a lot of backlash for misinfo

[glad stratus]

||just gonna have to deal with garmonds useless ass I suppose||

[quiet sentinel]

||garmond is stupid and lost garmond makes no sense|| imo

[distant holly]

no, i meant if the lore were completely defined

[quiet sentinel]

the game doesnt even leave you enough time to get attached to the character

i think its a stupid character to have a ||lost version of||

[oak swift]

I misread what you said lol

[quiet sentinel]

something like ||lost shakra, maybe she surrenders to the void after learning her master is dead and we have a standoff against her, thatd be way more emotional||

idk

[oak swift]

And thus since I misread it, my version is right!

Uhh, stinky poopy face!

[quiet sentinel]

i think the choice to make a random character who shows up like twice have a scene like that was dumb

its meant to make you feel remorse but doesnt allow you to connect with them at all

like ||lost sherma|| even would pull heartstrings to have to kill them

who could bring themselves to do that??

[clever furnace]

||oh no garmond is dead, whatever is hornet gonna do now ||

[quiet sentinel]

there were so many better options than just making a ||stupid memento out of it||

literally

[oak swift]

||Garmond|| is a character that shows up a lot depending on where you go and at what time, its similar to ||Sherma||

I personally saw ||Garmond|| far more tham ||Sherma|| and was attached to him, so the fight had more impact, a lot of others also felt the same lol

[quiet sentinel]

the only time i saw them was when i freed them and thats it

[opal totem]

Yeah I liked the guy

[oak swift]

I wasnt as attached to ||Sherma|| as my friends, so I didnt really care much about them, but my friends we worshipping him lol

[quiet sentinel]

then just randomly throughout the ||citadel|| and i was like okay cool

[oak swift]

He shows up in various points and even has an ||act 2 fight|| if you progress his story arc, its more on the obscure side though

[quiet sentinel]

yes im aware

i missed almost every single one of their interactions in my 100%

[glad stratus]

bro......

[oak swift]

It hit hard for a good chunk of people

One of my friends could have cared less, but Tanny and I got really sad lol

[distant holly]

it’s so extremely missable 💔

[quiet sentinel]

clearly not an impactful death as this is the first time ive seen anyone mention it after i bring it up

lmao

[oak swift]

AND ||ZAZA JUST STAYS THERE|| :(

[distant holly]

the ||fight||

[quiet sentinel]

and you cant say its an emotion issue, i was bawling my eyes out for the entire ||red memory and half of the lace 3 fight||

[clever furnace]

certified bilewater moment

[oak swift]

Its talked about a good bit in the community

Hell just an hour ago I saw a meme on it, calling him the ||New Gyla||

[opal totem]

I missed ||the duel|| but I still saw him enough times throughout the game to get attached

[quiet sentinel]

the game just does a very terrible job of helping you make that connection with him

[quiet sentinel]

attached to what

[oak swift]

Ehh not really, I just dont think you saw him enough

[quiet sentinel]

like what aspect of their personality is attachable

[oak swift]

I love how he acts, hes such a goober

Imo third favorite lol

[quiet sentinel]

okay so its silly

no wonder i felt no attachment

i tend to attach myself to more serious topics

[oak swift]

Its a bit more then that, its a reason but not the main reason

[quiet sentinel]

game fault

[opal totem]

I think the fact that he's the last one of his village and is trying his best to do justice is serious enough

[quiet sentinel]

even if i did i probably wouldnt be

the fight annoyed me too much to make me care

its so cramped

[quiet sentinel]

if only the game had communicated that without hiding him on a random ledge out of bounds

[clever furnace]

didn't get attached either

[oak swift]

Hes someone who ||Goes around the citadel attempting to avenge his people in the best way he can, and even though his journey was technically in vein Hornet took his vengence and fulfilled it after his death||

[opal totem]

It's literally the first dialogue

[quiet sentinel]

(which is literally a place btw im not exagerating)

well thanks for the input

my feelings still stand the same

[clever furnace]

he's just there for me
sometimes you find em fighting foes and I help im out but that's as much as I really cared

[quiet sentinel]

i jus thought id learn something from the conversation but i guess not

[oak swift]

Eh, I think it being dynamic like this helps out the game, our first playthroughs arent meant us to show everything like most metroidvanias

There will be things we miss and character arcs will progress without us knowing, I personally am fine with that for this genre of gameplay since it makes the world more dynamic

[quiet sentinel]

i stand by having someone else be voided wouldve been more impactful for me

[quiet sentinel]

ig

[opal totem]

Yeah like ||lace||, another character we meet whole 3 times and get attached to

[lusty trout]

Sherma getting voided /j

[quiet sentinel]

i like experiencing the raw emotional story on a first playthrough since subsequent ones are usually on an achievement grind mindset and i wont care much

so missing out on it then means i will never form that connection ever

which i think is just a flaw in game design and not character design since some people ARE attached to them

who knows, maybe if i did find them at the perfect moments then maybe i wouldve been too

[quiet sentinel]

itd be so cool if there was a ||voided lace fight|| im ngl

[opal totem]

Because one rematch wasn't enough

[quiet sentinel]

nm that was funnier in my head

wtf im back from my timeout

[oak swift]

We need ||voided lace 2.0, electric parasitoo||

[quiet sentinel]

tbh im really upset at the lack of GAY ENERGY between lace and hornet

[clever furnace]

with twice the amount of parry chains

[quiet sentinel]

instead we got tall sherma and short hornet (im not complaining)

/silly btw

[oak swift]

Nah nah

Make it so every attack only causes a parry, making the fight badass but you never actually fuckin hit anything
(This is my main gripe lol)

[oak swift]

Tall Sherma sounds so cursed lol

[quiet sentinel]

oh shakra*

sorry their names are similar

[oak swift]

Ok that makes a lot more sense

You still burned that image in my head

[quiet sentinel]

yea ive been seeing a bunch of cute shakra and hornet art on my insta feed

i affirm the ship its so cute

one of them was shakra laying between hornet horns reading a map together

its too cute

[oak swift]

The comminity memed it to death for 4 years, not suprised its on the backburner by a lot of people lol

[quiet sentinel]

||true ending|| is the closest we got

unfortunately lace is too childish to understand intentions anyways

so itd never work

||bridal carry...||

[oak swift]

This is literally just Iselda and Cornifer (and just as cute :D)

Speaking of, I dont think the Shakra and Iselda comparison is a coincidence, it would be cool if conceptually Iselda is of similar power to Shakra

[quiet sentinel]

i actually dont really know much about iselda other than she gets really bored sitting around in the shop

[oak swift]

Would make sense on how Cornifer managed to survive outside the kingdom

[oak swift]

Cornifer's wife who is a retired warrior and mostly just hangs out with Cornifer and fueling his passion

She also loves making maps I think, but is mostly a shop keep in game

[glad stratus]

Welp this is impossible

Yay :3

[oak swift]

Cornifers sleeping animation is so cute too, omly the ||fleas|| match such whimsy

[quiet sentinel]

awooo :3

[oak swift]

Gods they are so amazing, love their design

Literal fluffballs

[opal totem]

Did we ever figure out what happens if ||you reach the conductor before getting threefold song quest||

[oak swift]

Huh, dunno actually, you caaannn reach him, probably just some throwaway dialogue

[glad stratus]

I love how PERFECT you must be to be able to enjoy this game

[opal totem]

I'm at the point of the run where I could try it, idk if worth risking steel soul

[oak swift]

Let me guess, ||Bilewater||?

[glad stratus]

Yeah..

[oak swift]

Fair nough

[oak swift]

Friend was stuck on a certain part of it for literal days

Quick tip for it, if you have other places to explore or other things to do

PLEASSSEEEEEE do them first, trust me, that place is a thing you do last imo, when you are properly ready/mentally ready

[opal totem]

I know

[quiet sentinel]

yiou dont know

[oak swift]

None of my friends listened to the advice (cause we played day 1 and didnt know about it) and that advice would have saved so much therapy money

[glad stratus]

Nope, nothing else to do, all that's left to do is ||find shakra in bilewater||

[oak swift]

You sure? If you havent gotten the map then you def have other things left

There is a crap ton of other areas/places to explore, as tempting as it is the area is more tolerable later on

[glad stratus]

I've gotten all the maps

||And 2/3 melodies||

[oak swift]

||Then do the third melody, I do mean it when I say theres a lot more to do, Bilewater is supposed to be done later on||

[clever furnace]

ooo you'll keep throwing yourself at bilewater ooo

[oak swift]

[glad stratus]

||Conductor, It's conductor I'm getting help from shakra for conductor because garmond isn't really doing much||

[hollow laurel]

bilewater is awesome, totally do that

[serene oxide]

just realised that I'm a bit of a hypocrite for hating the idea of dlc canon endings

blasphemous did it and i liked it

though blasphemous didn't do it through their version of the boss rush

it was an actual plot

[queen trench]

||bilewater isn't really that hard imo||

[opal totem]

Do people really hate endings just because they're dlc

[serene oxide]

no I don't want to hear a thing about the godseekers

[oak swift]

I see, if you want to keep doing it go for it then, though for mental sake there are better options

[serene oxide]

yes hello

[opal totem]

Even though dlc is just a free content patch

[oak swift]

Nah, I think its fine, its added on content and in some ways its meant to clarify parts of the lore

[serene oxide]

even if pantheons were basegame I would hate it

the part i dislike more is that it's the fucking boss rush

[oak swift]

Yeah I was about to say, less dlc and more just not liking the genre lol

[opal totem]

There are some justified reasons to hate it but I don't feel like "it's dlc" is one of them

[hollow laurel]

no i dislike the way that ending was done, i think that the radience being trapped in the hollow knight was interesting and any other way of being able to kill the radience means nothing and is stupid

just my oppinion though

cool ending for abs rad though

[oak swift]

I see, though imo its still makes a good bit of sense

We know the higher being understand its a dream, so them having power in said dream and able to alter it is well within their power

But fair criticism

[glad stratus]

It's gotten to the point I can autopilot like the first 30%(?) of the path...

[queen trench]

I mean following that logic, why are the bosses in godhome anyway? that's basically what you're asking, and imo there is a pretty decent explanation

[hollow laurel]

just because it makes sense doesnt mean it doesnt take away from the normal true ending

[oak swift]

And dont forget that the higher beings all not only know they are in there, but actually can alter and change the godhome area as well (which we see with lifeblood)

[quiet sentinel]

i think you need to go watch a mossbag godhome video to understand how attuning works and why the ending makes sense

[glad stratus]

I think it's time a take a break

[quiet sentinel]

there is a logical reason and if your hating on it because you dont understand it then at least try inform yourself

[glad stratus]

I've tried long enough

My eyes hurt

[hollow laurel]

i never said it didnt make sense i just think i dont like it

[glad stratus]

I'm hungry

[quiet sentinel]

you just said it doesnt make sense

lol

[queen trench]

also the light of abs rad is seen flying away from the pure vessel at the end of pantheon of the knight

[hollow laurel]

i said its stupid not that it didnt make sense though

[quiet sentinel]

[queen trench]

have a nice meal then

[oak swift]

Oh yeah that detail was also very noice

The godseekers also saw nothing in the vessel as well I think? Its very cool :D

[glad stratus]

I want something like ultrakills cybergrind in SS

[glad stratus]

Like an endless wave of different enemies and after each wave the map changes a bit

[clever furnace]

chat
what's ur favorite boss to try to no-hit

[serene oxide]

HELL no you don't

[queen trench]

I think that's more a reference to the void in it but idk

[serene oxide]

been to ||high halls|| already?

[glad stratus]

Yeah

[oak swift]

||In Steel soul I loved doing Bell Beast because your canonically petting the zoomies out of it||

[quiet sentinel]

||lost lace|| just cause of the consistency (ive done it 3 times niow :3)

[serene oxide]

weren't you the one struggling there for days, or am i mistaking you for someone

[oak swift]

It is yeah, which is why I like it, its consistent with the knight :D

Ok, I gotta go to bed, gn yall!

[queen trench]

gn

[glad stratus]

No that was me, I'm just saying an endless wave side thing where it gets harder the more you play it (of course there will be checkpoints every around 5-10ish waves) and having the arena itself change every wave (similar to cg) would be good for training and be fun to experiment in

[glad stratus]

Would it be annoying? Yes, but mainly in the later waves

[clever furnace]

sign me up for that
I am pretty fond of crowd control situations

[queen trench]

uuuh... eternal ordeal exists in hk

[glad stratus]

I was talking about silksong

[queen trench]

they might do something like eternal ordeal again in silksong in some dlc

[hollow laurel]

Would be funny but who would it be for

[glad stratus]

Hopefully, would be nice for a while until it stops being nice and then I hate it

[hollow laurel]

||the eternal ordeal of Groal||

[serene oxide]

could be an area somewhere in ||Cogwork Core|| yeah i see it

[clever furnace]

skong waves mode should totally have annoying af music playing the entire time so you absolutely hate every second of the experience

[glad stratus]

Yes

[serene oxide]

HK Collector theme

[opal totem]

I love barely surviving

I'm such a barely survivor

[glad stratus]

Hi chat hello look at my cat hello yes thank you yes hello Peter hello petey hey...

[queen trench]

I'm pretty sure you're a hunter

[opal totem]

Wanderer even

[hardy jolt]

[hollow laurel]

Yo that’s awesome

[mellow sigil]

I DID THAT TOO

||and than got locked out under the elevator ||

[queen trench]

I did it!

(hk radiance)

I swear the last achievement I'm gonna be left with is like... defeat grey prince zote

[mental shuttle]

GPZ more like poopy butt

[queen trench]

alright time for the speedrun achievements

[lusty trout]

What about 100% steel soul

Or is it 112% i dont remember

[quiet sentinel]

its 100%

[sudden plover]

Grimm is 100% the cool ass gay uncle that everyone loves and ||trobbio|| is his boyfriend

[mellow sigil]

finally someone gets it right

[sudden plover]

They are lovers not cousins you cannot change my mind

I mean who,do you think taught Grimm his stage acting?

He 100% learned that shit from ||trobbio||

[mental shuttle]

Shloog

[sudden plover]

Shloog

[lusty trout]

Silksong dlc:
We gonna fight the sun /j

[sudden plover]

The sun is dead

We fight the moon

Wait wouldn't pale king be the moon?

Hornet has to fight her father

[lusty trout]

First of all why would hornet fight her father

[sudden plover]

That's the fun part

She doesn't

The entire dlc is just a hidden cutscene of her having an argument with the pale king due to the kingdoms funding being put into saw blades instead of important things

[sudden plover]

It's unskippable and lasts for 14 hours

[quiet sentinel]

okay, 10th attempt at steel soul sniffles

my plan is still the same, rush all upgrades then run around everywhere with ease

[tawdry osprey]

What happened with the last….

[quiet sentinel]

||widow death||

[tawdry osprey]

:c

[quiet sentinel]

yay i learnt how to skip it damageless

[sudden plover]

Why would you skip this peak tho

[digital robin]

||12th Architect would be sad (that we destroy its toy)||

[sudden plover]

...

Womp womp

Shouldn't have made it entertaining to fight

[hardy jolt]

awoooooo

[quiet sentinel]

awooooo :3

cute pfp

[hardy jolt]

ty :3

[quiet sentinel]

"former wr "

[mellow sigil]

oh my god will they ever stop

||ALMOST TWO THOUSAND????????||

[little ferry]

Crazy

[little ferry]

Tbh would be cool if the godhome of skong was like ||white palace|| training grounds (some HK lategame soilers)

[hardy jolt]

[opal totem]

I can't believe they put bilewater in my act 1

[lilac temple]

that’s your fault for finding it

you knew what you were getting into

|| putrified ducts has got to be one of the worst areas ||

|| it’s so damn small ||

|| and has those fuckass cancer bugs and the hl2 barnacles ||

|| oh yeah did they just fucking steal barnacles ||

THEY DUD

|| https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Barnak ||

I KNEW IT

[opal totem]

Half life didn't invent them

[lilac temple]

They are literally called || Barnak ||

They def invented the enemy right

[sudden plover]

TC thieves confirmed?

[opal totem]

What else would you call a ||barnacle|| enemy

Should've called it Bob

[tawdry osprey]

WAHRTSDASD

[digital robin]

[banned term]

is another name for that type of enemy

[tawdry osprey]

I know what you are refering to but that thing is so rare i dont even remember that name

[atomic lintel]

the fog demon.

[atomic lintel]

those who know

[mental shuttle]

Replaying nine sols
Ask silksong difficulty haters to play this and ask them to come back

[clever furnace]

7 minutes I am not watching ts

[mental shuttle]

Welcome back blighttown

[hardy jolt]

is this spoil tagged

[digital robin]

Spoilers...

[clever furnace]

SHIT

Ignore that

[hardy jolt]

a

[mental shuttle]

Act 1 content 💔

[clever furnace]

I’m too tired today chat

[hardy jolt]

you need ||wings|| to get up there dont you

[mental shuttle]

Do you???

[hardy jolt]

yknow that ledge near shakra

[clever furnace]

Yeah

[mental shuttle]

Damn....

[clever furnace]

At the very least nine sols has accessibility features

[hardy jolt]

fighting ||groal|| in act 1

pain

[clever furnace]

Someone has probably done it

[mental shuttle]

Yeah but like
Its just damage sliders 💔

Hey guys we put accessibility settings in our game!!!
Damage sliders:

Fuck you die

[clever furnace]

I haven’t played it in a while

[digital robin]

Most SS difficulty haters want the 1 damage mod

so damage sliders work

[mental shuttle]

I like accessibility settings that keep game balance intact

[digital robin]

(also wanderer is just "increase you DPS so you can facetank / kill easily a boss before it kills you")

Then they are not accessibility settings

[mental shuttle]

Other games have done it well

Literally
Tunic has an easy mode

And thats super well done

It changes things just slightly to make it enjoyable for casual players

[quiet sentinel]

[mental shuttle]

So real i think

[quiet sentinel]

isnt ||grapple|| required to get up to the arena

pretty sure the earliest you can do it is act 2

[digital robin]

You can fight ||Groal|| in Act 1

[quiet sentinel]

without progression skipping?

if you start talking about sharp dart i dont wanna hear it

[digital robin]

There is a ||Hook-less strat for Mount Fay||, which is an obvious progression skip to get the ||wings||

and you can get there after the claws if you ||get jailed||

[quiet sentinel]

but fay is act 2?

[clever furnace]

I do think it sucks that silksong was released without a well thought out easy mode because it’s such a massive series

[digital robin]

||Entering Fay is act 1. If jailed, which can happen after the claws, you need to go to the bellway next to Fay entrance and you can see the title card. But then you need to use hook (or weird strats) to traverse the map||

[quiet sentinel]

thats still act 2

it still puts you in act 2

[digital robin]

No

Only reaching the ||Coral chambers or Grand Gate entrance|| triggers the act 2 cinematic

[quiet sentinel]

hook is also act 2

[digital robin]

BRUH

I already said that you can ignore the hook with weird strats

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC9LS9KuCJo||

[quiet sentinel]

thats sharp dart

whatever way you put it it requires you going to act 2 areas

[opal totem]

Silksong is harder

[digital robin]

||Sharp dart|| I think can be obtained with beast-skips

Anyways, I'm at ||Lost Lace, with 100%|| in my Steel Soul

I need to lock in

[delicate nexus]

cutiest thing in entire game

[mental shuttle]

I mean
That would take
Another 2 years

Having to change everything just for an easy mode

[quiet sentinel]

easy mode is wanderer crest

[clever furnace]

Okay? It’s worth it

[mental shuttle]

I think the game is fine for casual players
Especially since wanderer just
Exists

[quiet sentinel]

it doesnt not need an easy mode

[mental shuttle]

You can change your build around to make the game piss easy anyway 😭

[quiet sentinel]

thats like asking for dark souls games to have an easy mode

just play the game as intended and get good and feel good about getting good

wheres the challenge if stuff is easy

[clever furnace]

Hollow knight is way different than dark souls

Much broader appeal

[quiet sentinel]

?

team cherry has directly stated the games they take inspiration from and dark souls are a big one

theyres a reason its called a soulslike

you dont get any more accurate than hollow knight for a 2d game

[clever furnace]

Yeah but hollow knight is like. Much more forgiving on the player

[quiet sentinel]

so why do you want an easy mode for a more forgiving game

[clever furnace]

Mainly so disabled and people who don’t have the time/aren’t enjoying the game can play it to

Silksong and hollow knight are lore heavy

[digital robin]

Silksong needs a few QoL thing

[clever furnace]

I think everyone should be able to experience it

[quiet sentinel]

if game developers catered to every single group on earth games would never come out

[digital robin]

the main one in my opinion is free tool repair on death. Farming shards is not fun, and it only makes noobs not use tools (which make them even more likely to die)

[quiet sentinel]

there will always be people who will be upset

you cannot please everyone

im sorry but that is the truth

its a selfish thing to believe that is possible

if i was to propose a change it would be a colorblind mode (i am cb)

[clever furnace]

Farming shards is like. A big flaw in silksong imo

[velvet trench]

Personally, the difficulty isnt extreme? Im very much a casual gamer, but i can beat bosses with enough practice and persistence. Sometimes you do just take longer, its unreasonable to expect the devs to cater for an easy mode imo? Sure id rather not spend like 11 hours doing a boss fight, but its possible with enough patience

[quiet sentinel]

i never had an issue with the shards, but i understand the frustrations

i just dont use tools enough for it to be an issue

[clever furnace]

Color blind and color adjustments exist in games I think that’s great

[quiet sentinel]

chiki being able to actually complete this bit by bit proves its accessible to all gamers /lht

[velvet trench]

[clever furnace]

I’ve seen some people drop the game over difficulty, it’s just different skill levels

[quiet sentinel]

14 hours on savage beastfly go!

[digital robin]

There is already a difficulty slider in what crest you use. Wanderer has a lot of good things that trivialize part of the difficulty for example. ||Architect tool spam (when possible)|| is another one

[velvet trench]

I didnt find them too hard tbf, but i did only come back and do them very late ||act 2||

Currently been stuck on ||clover dancers|| for 6 hours

[quiet sentinel]

:3

im proud of you youre doing it

[clever furnace]

Damn. Alright then I’ll stop arguing for accessibility features so disabled people can play games because it’s selfish

[velvet trench]

And thats fine, I just dont think team cherry should be expected to add an easy mode or whatever bc of that. The exact same people would quit hollow knight for the same reason

[quiet sentinel]

please dont try to twist my words

[clever furnace]

Simply releasing a game with an easy mode, no matter how well it’s done is appreciated

[digital robin]

People stuck there (and in hunter march in general) is because they want to do it with Hunter Crest. Return with Reaper or Wanderer and is super easy, even more if you get the Widow nail upgrade

[quiet sentinel]

i never struggled with it

im just accepting the meme

[clever furnace]

?? I don’t get what did I misunderstand

[quiet sentinel]

then its best for you to drop the conversation or not reply about it to me anymore

[digital robin]

Which attack / problem is making you die so much?

[velvet trench]

Skill issue

[digital robin]

A lot of people belive them easier than ||Cogwork Dancers||

[quiet sentinel]

my favorite attack, the skill issue attack

[velvet trench]

Mainly just keep running into them and dying to contact damage

[velvet trench]

Nah its harder imo

Only by a bit tho

[clever furnace]

Really? Aren’t they faster?

I thought they were faster

[quiet sentinel]

theyre harder due to being faster and shorter telegraphs

i found them more difficult to nohit than ||cogwork||

[mellow sigil]

I definitely struggled with them a lil more than with ||cogwork dancers||

[digital robin]

The thing is that ||Cog Dancers, locks you of the easy nail 2 upgrade (nobody is gonna do cook quest before them), while Clover are fought after you can get all nail upgrades||

[velvet trench]

Eh that doesnt change the difficulty imo, theyre scaled to be tankier anyway

[quiet sentinel]

yea

[mellow sigil]

||do needle upgrades actually help all that much with bosses btw?? I heard in HK boss health adjusts to the upgrade (naturally) I suspect same goes for SS||

[velvet trench]

Mainly i get tripped up bc of the telegraphs, by the time i processed where theyre going theyre already on me

[digital robin]

If you want a tip for both fights: ||Outside of the huricane, being on the wall a bit high makes you inmune to damage. Their hitbox are mainly in the ground, and even the vertical wall attack can't touch you||

[quiet sentinel]

welllll actuallyyyy

||cogwork has more health ||

[velvet trench]

Really?

[clever furnace]

Would the ||wall cling tool help||

[velvet trench]

Ig it is a pretty long fight

[quiet sentinel]

and also ||clover dancers give you a damage multiplier to your nail when you fight them up to 1.75x depending on level||

the ||prince|| has 300 hp

[mental shuttle]

ACTUALLY they weren't iirc

I cant remember what they said but ds wasnt a direct inspiration

[digital robin]

Yes

[clever furnace]

So they could just feel tank-ier due to that?

Idk math

[quiet sentinel]

noits designed to make them feel less tanky

at base needle you get 1.75, after an upgrade its 1.50 ect

specifically that boss

[mental shuttle]

CloD has hardly any health they need more tank

[clever furnace]

Tbf boss fights in silksong generally take more than a minute

They all feel sort of tanky

[quiet sentinel]

it is, i forgot what ama but they directly stated they took inspirations for the "stains in the world" from the series

id say thats pretty direct

[mental shuttle]

Oh i see

[quiet sentinel]

cant wait for the silksong dlc to allow invasions

gonna walk in, spam ||tacks|| everywhere, walk out

have fun loser!

[velvet trench]

Where do u find ||tacks|| btw? Keep hearing abt them

[quiet sentinel]

ermmmmmm

[mellow sigil]

what in the world is ||tacks||

[quiet sentinel]

i think the ||sinner road npcs?||

theyre the caltrops tool

yea i am 99% sure its the ||sinners road npcs hiding in the little place, they ask you for roach guts||

[mellow sigil]

||oh wait its at the npcs that I visited a single time for the cursed quest||

[velvet trench]

They have a quest??

Huh

Are they still ||alive in act 3?||

[quiet sentinel]

they have 2, actually

[velvet trench]

Yea i visited them for another one

I forget which

[quiet sentinel]

no

id assume you can just walk in there and the tool would be there

[velvet trench]

Hopefully

[quiet sentinel]

otherwise itd be a funny hardlock

[mellow sigil]

Im currently actually kinda stuck at ||lost lace|| (post-game spoiler)
anyone has.,.,.., tips

Ill probably ||beat her if I focus a lil more but I dunno||

[clever furnace]

One word ||tacks||

[quiet sentinel]

learn her attacks and moves, shes one of the most no-hittable bosses

[mellow sigil]

I found out theres some ||secret PARKOUR?!??! above the cradle Im too excited to try it out to focus on lace||

[quiet sentinel]

e.g. ||her lunge will always be a 3 chain, lunge lunge lunge, or lunge lunge upswing if you're in the air while its happening, ect||

[clever furnace]

Grind ||shards and buy max bundles + max out shards before fighting ||

[quiet sentinel]

read her attacks, learn how to manipulate them, and you should get the fight down in no time

[mellow sigil]

well yeah ofc thats what I have to do /silly

thanks anyway:D

[quiet sentinel]

:3

[mellow sigil]

I already kinda do that because Im an ||Architect main lol||

[clever furnace]

||you can decide whether to use polip pouch, but if you do you can’t use lifeblood||

[mellow sigil]

oh yeah I should probably use ||lifeblood........||

[clever furnace]

||Tacks carried me to her second phase, you can decide whether to use lifeblood or focus on damage ||

[mellow sigil]

alright Ill grab and try ||tacks|| thx a lot!!!!

[clever furnace]

If you’re focusing on damage with ||architect I’d use polip pouch||

[mellow sigil]

haha yeah I never took it off

ever

ouh I wonder how many hours does Chiki have now:0

[clever furnace]

||lifeblood is useless with polip pouch though the masks explode into a mist of poison after some time ||

[digital robin]

Steel Soul 100% completed (with a bit of 🧀 )

[clever furnace]

Steel and cheese is my favourite combination 🥹

[digital robin]

I had to quit twice in ||LL|| (not locking in). But a lot of bosses where 1st tried

[velvet trench]

102h

And I haven’t gotten a single ||heart in act 3|| yet

[digital robin]

||do you want tips for LL? Be super agresive in certain attacks where you can get 1 or 2 hits (in general always that it does a jump and is in the air you can get 1 or 2 hits (tentacle, summon stuff, diagonal pin, etc.) and if you don't use Architect you can parry the parry||

As always Wanderer makes it a breeze if you don't bump into their body while trying to attack due to low range

[quiet sentinel]

parrying the riposte is horrible advice

just jump

[digital robin]

Na

[quiet sentinel]

why risk a 2 mask hit

wdym no i have the experience

i can tell you now that is bad advice

[digital robin]

||when being parried is better to dash into lace, usually the iframes get you to the other side or you are far away from diagonal counteratack||

Parry the parry is to save 2 masks if you have silk (in aggresive styles sometimes it happen)

[quiet sentinel]

i am like baffled because i cant tell if youre joking or if youre serious

im telling you ive nohit the woman 3 times i can confirm that trying to parry the riposte is never worth the risk

[digital robin]

I'm telling that if they get parried accidently (some attack have surprisingly low counterattack windows), parring it can save you a bit of health

[quiet sentinel]

you can hit it on accident, just jum

its 1 button

[digital robin]

obviously you want to try to not get parried, but sometimes the first hit is already a parry

[clever furnace]

Wth is a riposte

[quiet sentinel]

no risk involved

[digital robin]

Jumping doesn't work always, diagonal counterattack sometimes gets you

[quiet sentinel]

thats what the dash is there for

[digital robin]

Diagonal still gets you sometimes since sometimes she jumps in your dash direction

[quiet sentinel]

sigh

[mental shuttle]

Parry counter attack

[quiet sentinel]

if it works for you then it works

[clever furnace]

Parry her parry then

[velvet trench]

Is okay Mae you always give good advice

[quiet sentinel]

but please dont try to give out advice to people like that because it just makes the fight harder

[digital robin]

Wasting 4 silk is the easy solution if you can (they probably can't due to ||Architect||). I just remind them that that is always an option if they get hit from time to time when using other dodge strats

[queen trench]

uhhh what are those pillars doing there?

[mental shuttle]

My favourite silksong boss 🥹

[velvet trench]

Hollow knight jumpscare

The font looks so weird I’m used to silksong font now

[quiet sentinel]

hk font my beloved

[velvet trench]

Anyone else still feel like…surreal that silksong is real

It’s weird

[queen trench]

you people have noticed the starting flame pillars in the bottom left corner of the picture right...

[mellow sigil]

yes I sometimes think about it while playing and feel like Im imagining it all

[quiet sentinel]

yeaaa everry time isee it in my libary :3

its like waowww

[velvet trench]

Yess

[broken plover]

||the big sun moth is Scarrry.... ||

[mental shuttle]

You dont need
To
Spoil rhis

Or do you?

Idk?

[queen trench]

you can and it is considered corteous but you don't have to

[broken plover]

||I mean radiance is the true final boss of Hallow knight||

[mental shuttle]

I was only asking because I realised wait there's a hk player in chat

Wait thays you

Explodes and dies

[quiet sentinel]

everyone knows the true final boss of hollow knight is breta

[tawdry osprey]

who

[quiet sentinel]

dont make me cry

[tawdry osprey]

sorry 🥹

[mental shuttle]

Hey comotur

[velvet trench]

Myla 🔥

I was so worried the whole game that sherma would be another Myla 🥹

[broken plover]

||I'd love if Zote made like a minicameo, Like a secret miniboss, Where he pulls out life ender on you and then something 1000x more threatening lands on him||

[velvet trench]

||life ender was made of shellwood, implying that zote had been to pharloom before ||

[tawdry osprey]

Could you imagine 💔

[mental shuttle]

Geeked out on that silk

What if you smoke silk like weed

What are the lore implications of this

[broken plover]

||i thought Traitor lord was considered easy I've been killed by him 25 times now I dont want cloth to die ||

[mental shuttle]

People way over play him i think

[velvet trench]

I found it pretty easy, the shade cloak can avoid like every attack. Sharp shadow is handy if u have it

[mental shuttle]

Hes super easy if you stay close and just dash through him

[broken plover]

Ill need to look for sharp shadow, what does it do

[velvet trench]

Makes shade cloak deal damage

[broken plover]

That sounds so useful, will definitely be searching

[queen trench]

you can also jump and pogo off of his slash attack

I found that easier whenever I had enough time

[tawdry osprey]

Oh you playing actual hollow knight

[broken plover]

I've got shamon stone on and Fluknest on currently, that seems to wear him down to the point he begins doing the wave attack

And thats where I usually die

[queen trench]

another two achievements gotten

hold on this is a better picture of the achievements

[tawdry osprey]

I thought that was your first playthrough and you got 29%🥹

[queen trench]

nah my like... 3rd playthrough

time to delete this speedrun save now, don't want it there

[mental shuttle]

Comotur i sear your name colou gets darker whenever I look at it

[queen trench]

I find it funny how the other saves are nearly identical

[tawdry osprey]

Just getting a few challenge roles

I’m trying every single color

[mental shuttle]

The only one I want usurper but usurper sucks

[velvet trench]

Usurper is fine tbh, just prep a ton of e spears

[tawdry osprey]

Theres a Strat to make that one easy

I think I can’t say it here tho

Still off topic genderal

[velvet trench]

Oh right

Sorry I see a chal mentioned and I must give tips

Chalver mindset

[tawdry osprey]

Chiki I’m only missing perseverance and commitment help me 🥹

[quiet sentinel]

:3

[velvet trench]

Damnn I’m only 55/70 🥹

[mental shuttle]

Gay people attack

[quiet sentinel]

im missing like 40 different challenges who wants to use my skin and do them for me

[tawdry osprey]

You send it and I do perseverance with it

[quiet sentinel]

[tawdry osprey]

Also wtf I remember you having a lot more than me 🥹

[velvet trench]

You’ve been busy challenging, I’ve been playing silksong

[tawdry osprey]

I’ll be busy watching soon tho

[velvet trench]

Samee

Think I’m gonna finish silksong first tho

[tawdry osprey]

Yeah you don’t have that much game left

Probably good idea

[velvet trench]

Ye

Btw

Ik there’s ||4 hearts you can get but you only need 3, what happens if you get 4?||

[tawdry osprey]

|| you can exhibit the extra one at your home on a shelf ||

No this is not a joke

[quiet sentinel]

i was supoosed to return to challenges after i was done with deltarune

sniffles

[velvet trench]

Same except Elden ring (still haven’t finished), then silksong, then its gonna be watcher…

[tawdry osprey]

Maybe watcher will reignite your need to play rainworld

[velvet trench]

Probably

I’ve been helping my friend through their first playthroughs and that’s been great fun

Tho I haven’t played rainworld in like 2 months so ima be super rusty

[quiet sentinel]

watcher update :333

sameeee im gonna be so rusty

[tawdry osprey]

You’ll get the hang of it in no time again

[velvet trench]

How long till I can do a ctv again I wonder

[quiet sentinel]

pause buffer

[digital robin]

||If you get the 4 before finishing the quest you can keep one as a thropy (is kinda gross)||

[tawdry osprey]

If you have 300+ hours in one game you’ll never forget the mechanics I know it from experience just takes like 1 day or 2

[velvet trench]

I can’t

[quiet sentinel]

i still dont know how to do extended slide jumps

[velvet trench]

Literally makes it harder for me

Doing them normally is just easier

[quiet sentinel]

i am a rookie movementer

[velvet trench]

Those r fun

[quiet sentinel]

i have fast roll installed and i forget to use it 99% of the time

[tawdry osprey]

Me too and I did uturn

Literally just avoided them

[digital robin]

Bunny hopps are simple but a bit hard to pull off all the time, no matter the game

[velvet trench]

Oh I forgot to do u turn before watcher…,

Rip that extra second

New timer

[tawdry osprey]

Ok one extra second on uturn would make a pretty big difference lol

[digital robin]

[velvet trench]

When does watcher release?

Like time

[tawdry osprey]

6 hours… was like 2 hours ago

So 4 I think?

[digital robin]

Today if you are not a Nintendo European fan

[quiet sentinel]

at least i can slide and jumpo and roll and chain that thats like, my most advanced moves i know x3

[digital robin]

that is all info we have

[velvet trench]

Hmmm

[tawdry osprey]

Most complex thing rwsc requires is Eslides or the denboost/ctv for specific challenges so you are fine

[velvet trench]

Yeah I got like 45/70 only knowing e slides

[quiet sentinel]

ive already done stuff like vegan

[digital robin]

About that...

[tawdry osprey]

What…

What is watcher including wtf does that mean

[digital robin]

I will not leak info

[tawdry osprey]

Oh you have to be joking

[velvet trench]

Well some need eijump

[split sluice]

Is this a RWSC thread now

[velvet trench]

Like acrobat iirc

[velvet trench]

Always has been

[quiet sentinel]

theyre so difficult though..

[tawdry osprey]

Nuh uh I did it without them

[digital robin]

U-Turn doesn't really need eijump but it makes it a lot easier to complete on time

[quiet sentinel]

700 hours and i still cant do one

[tawdry osprey]

You can get around them

[quiet sentinel]

no matte how may times blu has tried to walk me through them

[velvet trench]

I can do eijumps but not max distance, which is what u need for u turn

[quiet sentinel]

it just either turns into a slide boost

or just a slide pounce

or rocket jump or whatever its called x3 idk movement names

[split sluice]

||I am about to say a speech crime:
I now like bilewater||

[tawdry osprey]

I swear if watcher challenges require eijumps I’m fucked 💔

[digital robin]

There is one idea that required doing wall pounce climb at the end

[tawdry osprey]

Also what

[tawny moon]

mid-act 1 soil
||i doodled the bellhart......||

[hardy jolt]

awesome :3

[digital robin]

#1407386303796088832 message

[hardy jolt]

also you dont need to spoil tag act 1 sstuff anymore

[split sluice]

Error did yoy see

[tawny moon]

while listening to man on the internet's cover of Hollow Knight (the boss)

[split sluice]

OMG I LOVE THAT COVER

[hardy jolt]

this?

[quiet sentinel]

[tawny moon]

OH joyous no need to spoil act 1

[hardy jolt]

arf

[split sluice]

also speedrun achievement

[quiet sentinel]

wrufff :3

[tawny moon]

i still failledddd in the EEEEENDDDDDD

[hardy jolt]

oh i think i saw that on steam :3

[tawny moon]

THANK.....

[split sluice]

THROUGH THE LAND INFECTION SPREADS THE LIGHT THEY’RE SEEING (/lyr)

[digital robin]

I love finishing everything (Steel soul 100%) hours before we get Watcher 1.5

Post game spoilers and all of that

[tawny moon]

the cover went so hard my network adapter died right after it ended

[split sluice]

I love the chorus part right after the “in the end”

[tawny moon]

so like. i think silksong is a 1/10. because. there's not enough FARFUNDAAAAAAAAA

[hardy jolt]

not enough SHAW either

[split sluice]

BTW did you ever listen to the grimm cover

[quiet sentinel]

can you add me to that somewhere

[quiet sentinel]

i thionk there was not a single one

[tawny moon]

you're not a bellhart npc 💔

[hardy jolt]

yes

[tawny moon]

i DID grimm's cover goes so hard

[wild zodiac]

what did you guys think of silksong as a whole?

[tawny moon]

absolute peak

[hardy jolt]

very awesome game

[tawny moon]

once i adjusted to the difficulty

[split sluice]

||They should add a shaw to right as you blast out of the void during the end of lost lace|| postgame

[wild zodiac]

yeah i really liked it too

[split sluice]

Very enjoyable suffering

[hardy jolt]

after ||act 3 wormways|| i now hope for a ||lifeblood focused|| dlc

[opal totem]

Steel dlc when

[tawny moon]

possibly act 2 soil? ||is the slab considered act 1 or 2||

[hardy jolt]

also more on the nightmare heart would be awesome

[split sluice]

||points to hollow knight||

[wild zodiac]

i just wish there was some kind of new game plus or boss refight modes so i could experiment with late game builds longer

[opal totem]

Mostly act 2

[hardy jolt]

that like

[tawny moon]

Joni be like

[hardy jolt]

barely qualifies

i wanna see a lifeblood higher being

[wild zodiac]

i want to know how lifeblood tastes

[hardy jolt]

silksong recipe book irl with lifeblood when

[tawny moon]

and it's just crystal meth radiance

[hardy jolt]

[wild zodiac]

there would be stuff like flea brew in it too

[tawny moon]

even the colour fits......

[hardy jolt]

peakkk

[split sluice]

||The defeat of Tormented Trobbio leads him to call his Nephew (Grimm Silksong, Child of Grimm Hollow knight)||

[hardy jolt]

[tawny moon]

grimm's distant cousin Jimm

[wild zodiac]

dont forget this uncle timm

[hardy jolt]

i tried playing hollow knight the other day and it looks so bad compared to silksong

lemme get an img

[split sluice]

I do think that if the Grimm troupe does appear in some way, the grimm of the era should be the grimmchild from hollow knight

[wild zodiac]

i still like how the original hk looks

[quiet sentinel]

it does feel a bit outdated hmmm x3

[hardy jolt]

that would be so cool

[tawny moon]

if anything has a chance to have a cameo from hollow knight to silksong, it would most likely be the grimm troupe

[hardy jolt]

it looks so much less detailed

[split sluice]

||especially during act 3|| postgame spoilers

[hardy jolt]

yea the whole thing of them travelling across dying kingdoms

it would make perfect sense

[wild zodiac]

i still like it

[quiet sentinel]

wrufff

[hardy jolt]

woof wruff :3

[tawny moon]

we're not getting a third game we're getting a hollow knight remasted in 2040

[split sluice]

Hmmm

What if the Godmaster type DLC is Grimm troupe focused?

[hardy jolt]

nightmare king version of every boss

[quiet sentinel]

what if the mrow and mrrp is mraow

[hardy jolt]

miauu meow mrrp mew

[quiet sentinel]

oops, all grimm!

[quiet sentinel]

squoshing the beans

[hardy jolt]

biscuits :3

[quiet sentinel]

.<

[split sluice]

Hear me out,
The Nightmare’s heart wants to increase it’s power to take over the dreams of all bugs (similar to the radiance), so a new ritual is performed where the memories of all the bosses are formed to grow it’s power

[tawdry osprey]

I find funny how every time you open this thread something different is going on

[lyric geode]

||lost lace is hard||

[tawdry osprey]

Imo it’s the hardest one

[quiet sentinel]

you dont understand the sheer importance of paw pads and kneading yet...

the true power it holds

[tawdry osprey]

Trust me I do

[quiet sentinel]

:3

[hardy jolt]

maaybe but idk how much that idea liness up with the nightmare hearts canon intent

[hardy jolt]

kitty and uppy activities :3

[velvet trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1364906140588310548.gif?quality=lossless&name=pawwave6&size=48

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

[split sluice]

We don’t really know what it’s intent is outside of just continuing the cycle it has created

[tawdry osprey]

I literally don’t have anything to send

[hardy jolt]

become
cat

[quiet sentinel]

here ill let you borrow this

[split sluice]

Ok but also consider the following: Nightmare Heart final boss

[tawdry osprey]

Is this an obligation

[hardy jolt]

peak,,,

[hardy jolt]

yes

[tawdry osprey]

Thanks

[quiet sentinel]

[velvet trench]

I do love how every time i open this thread its not about silksong

[split sluice]

Ok NGL a Grimm Troupe focused game would probably be better

[hardy jolt]

would be a pretty small game,,,

[quiet sentinel]

maybe silksong should add a paw-themed crest then... jeez..

[hardy jolt]

idk how much content could be purely grimm troupe

[hardy jolt]

truetruetruetrue

miauu

[quiet sentinel]

yea it would be pretty tinyy

[tawdry osprey]

My classes start an hour later today and I didn’t notice so I’m already here 🥹

[split sluice]

Hmmm

[tawny moon]

beast /silly

[velvet trench]

Prequel about the travels of the moth tribe 🔥

[quiet sentinel]

grimm dating simulator on the other hand

[split sluice]

I think it would more just be like the primary threat

[hardy jolt]

YES

[hardy jolt]

oooh

[hardy jolt]

that would also be so cool

[split sluice]

Kinda like ||GMS or the radiance||

[quiet sentinel]

the currency is lightbulbs

[tawny moon]

god i love beast crest

[tawdry osprey]

How many lightbulbs are needed for a simple key

[hardy jolt]

its funn

[quiet sentinel]

800 lumafly lanters

[tawny moon]

i keep finding different techs with it as well

pogo dash phasing

jump momentum storage

just like rain world.....

[hardy jolt]

silksong movement tech

[tawny moon]

i think beast crest is based on slugcats

[tawdry osprey]

When beast crest ctv

[tawdry osprey]

Thanks for the new name

[quiet sentinel]

cant wait for silksong server challenges

[hardy jolt]

silksong u turn: go from the marrow gate from the bottom around and back from the top entrance in under x time

[velvet trench]

Fr doing backflips feels exactly like rw 🥹

Same inputs and everything

[tawny moon]

true.....

[hollow laurel]

Is it? I don’t seem to remember rainworld having a run button

[barren ingot]

it isn't like they're really DLCs

they're free updates

[lilac temple]

|| guys the JAIL BUG thing isn’t in its normal location, it’s just the ants now and I NEED to go to jail, how do I do that ||

[velvet trench]

||have you visited the slab/benched there already? I did and then none spawned in any of the spots. If not, check the other spots, one outside the bellway in greymoor and one in bilewater||

[unreal hedge]

DLC is terminology invented by the fanbase, and I have no idea why It is very much misleading, I've seen several people get confused by it

and it doesn't have the actual defining trait of DLCs: being able to download it separately from the main game

team cherry calls them free content packs

[mellow sigil]

ohh they were free??:00

wait I have HK bought how do I not know

nvm

[unreal hedge]

I've seen several plus one people get confused by it*

[mellow sigil]

I definitely thought they're actual dlcs until now ....

though didnt TC themselves talked about well. ACTUAL dlcs for Silksong?? or was it also "additional content"

Im ps they said something about additional stuff right Im not making it up.....

[hardy jolt]

ya

it will probably be free

cus team cherry is awesome

[mellow sigil]

7 years in the development and they still have content updates to make

[opal totem]

I hope it's just more hollow knight kind of dlcs but at a bigger scale

[hardy jolt]

im hoping some of the stuff they left out of the basegame from the trailers will get repurposed

[unreal hedge]

what I'm saying is that no one calls Rain World Remix a DLC even though it's much closer to being such than HK's free content packs

[hardy jolt]

remix isnt really content tho

[unreal hedge]

but you can actually turn it off

[mellow sigil]

thing is that if they already cut it out and couldn't find where to place it (or didnt input it for whatever other reason) how will they input it now

Im also hoping ofc but I dunno how it would work
like HK was their first project and they might have just. Didn't thought of the additional content while developing it
or it wasnt necessarily for the base game and full experience

but cut content.........

[hardy jolt]

its not to uncommon for ideas to be cancelled and for the content be used in other places

they still probably have the stuff in the files