Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[split sluice]

||Current Khann Revamp (by Ender):
The current fight still exists within the first half, with the attacks from current phase 2 being introduced at 3/4 half.
At 1/2 health, Khann will yell and jump to his throne, two coral spikes will come down and spawn the basic soldier enemies, Khann during this segment will jump into the arena and throw conchfly shells at the player (they are destroyed on impact with floor/walls), He will take minimal damage in this state
After the mid-battle gauntlet, Khann will jump back into the arena, yell, and begin phase 2, introducing new attacks (in the next message)|| post game spoilers

[clever furnace]

ok so active tool underuse is actually pretty common, it seems

does (crest upgrade) ||focus|| increase active tool damage?
istg if it doesn't then throwables may just be terrible as a whole
they don't synergize at all with other parts of hornet's toolset

[opaque shard]

Ughh I just vomited my enitre stomach out ughh

Why did it send twice wtf

[tawdry osprey]

Can’t be useless if ||tack dps is higher than wanderer crest attacks as fast as possible lol||

[clever furnace]

the fuck

[tawdry osprey]

You just need an enemy that will stand on them and it disappears

[clever furnace]

no way ||tacks|| of all things are op like what

[split sluice]

||In phase 2, Khann will introduce new attacks that are melee focused.
-Khann will attempt to slap hornet with a short wind up, if it impacts, Khann will jump above hornet and attempt to slam her into the floor, there is a brief window to dash out, but if not, two damage will be dealt. Three damage total is possible through this attack
-Khann will dash across the arena, then jumping above the middle of the arena, before slamming down and covering the entire floor in coral for a moment.
-Khann will summon two spikes at the edges of the arena, bringing hornet in so he can attempt to punch her
I’ll probably try to come up with more attacks soon||

[tawdry osprey]

Combine them with ||poison|| and you can deal half of the final boss hp with one stack (I tested it)

[split sluice]

@hardy jolt went ahead and compiled ||my khann revamp ideas|| currently

[clever furnace]

what do y'all think of (active tool) ||rosary cannon dealing a whopping 3 damage per rosary ||
fire up the entire thing to kill one (1) fodder enemy lol

[tawdry osprey]

Yeah that might as well be the worst tool of all lol

[opaque shard]

No way its that little

[split sluice]

@wise monolith think you might like this as well :3

[opaque shard]

isnt the max like 80? thats 240 dmg at most

[clever furnace]

it is that little
genuinely worthless, it can't even be reloaded on the fly

[tawdry osprey]

How is it possible that the tool that ||requires a simple key and is also the most expensive to use|| is that bad

[mellow sigil]

||rosarie gun???||

[split sluice]

I really want ||To share my Crust King Khann concept with others because I like how it’s turning out|| postgame spoilers

[mellow sigil]

||it requires a simple key?!??!||

[opaque shard]

You didnt find it?

[mellow sigil]

||when in the world do you get it I thought theres only four of them... ||

[mellow sigil]

||the gun or the key? ||

[opaque shard]

Its in HH

[clever furnace]

When I first got it I thought it would be a case of (function) ||"op tool requiring money to fire" like terraria's coin gun||
it had the cool (function) ||rapid fire|| and everything but it's just chip damage

[opaque shard]

probably already unlocked the door its well hidden

[tawdry osprey]

Yeah like what is even the purpose it’s so useless 😭

[mellow sigil]

scratches head

[opaque shard]

||room in high halls that requires a simple key and is full of rosaries||

[mellow sigil]

weird that I never found it I spend quite a lot of time in HH

either way Ill have to go look for the ||simple key|| as well

[clever furnace]

enemies that keep their distance like to stay at a specific distance which can be abused by faking a retreat then dashing in for some hits
any enemy parry is counter-able, not like it's easy to react to those anyway

[barren ingot]

||it would be cool if you could adjust what unit of currency it fires with, and based on what you choose it does higher damage but spends more per shot||

this is my video gaming idea

[serene oxide]

shooting with ||pearl rosaries|| would be so painful

[clever furnace]

finally, an use for repeating (task) ||supply runs||

[dapper summit]

i just reached ||Far Lands and now i can glide. why Hornet so skinny||.

[barren ingot]

bug

[serene oxide]

loading ||15×80|| rosaries for ||extra damage||

[barren ingot]

why dont bugs in hollow knight have abdomens very often

[clever furnace]

did you expect more?

[barren ingot]

wouldnt you expect a spiderish creature to have one

[serene oxide]

are weavers spiders

in hk universe

[barren ingot]

spider inspired at least

there arent many bugs with direct counterparts

[dapper summit]

4 legs instead of 8

[barren ingot]

I have personally never seen a Troupe Master Grimm in my backyard

[serene oxide]

also kinda weird that only ||weavers are said to weave silk||

[dapper summit]

how about we make it real

[serene oxide]

like it's their special talent

almost every spider weaves it

[barren ingot]

what's your level of completion in the game rn?

[serene oxide]

82-ish

[barren ingot]

but like, endings-wise

spoilered-ness

(Final boss spoilers) ||I think the reason it's like that is because silk stuff is the special ability of Grand Mother Silk, and the weavers were created by her.)||

[dapper summit]

btw that wishes tab thing is such a nice addition. no need for a notepad to write down stuff for something

[foggy grotto]

ok, so

I have completely run out of leads

I need help getting to ||act three||

[serene oxide]

oh yeah I know that

[barren ingot]

||Do All Of The Quests||

[foggy grotto]

I believe it has something to do with the ||diving bell|| in ||deep docks||

[barren ingot]

I think ||fleas|| are important?

[foggy grotto]

oh man

[barren ingot]

||that's a surprise tool for later. dw about it for now||

[serene oxide]

get to ||fleatopia, buy every Shakra's map, do all the wishwall quests||

[barren ingot]

||basically do all of the quests and eventually a quest with a very obviously plot relevant name will appear||

[dapper summit]

are the ||fleas located on every region each||?

[foggy grotto]

does ||food quest|| count for this?

[barren ingot]

I dont understand what you mean by this exactly

[barren ingot]

||Yeah, 'tis a quest||

[serene oxide]

iirc its not necessary

[barren ingot]

oh?

weird exception

[serene oxide]

someone told me that

[barren ingot]

all I see online says ||all quests||, more or less

but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some hidden exceptions

[dapper summit]

if there's only one in a region rather than two so i didnt miss anything

[barren ingot]

CONDITIONS:
1.||Finish flea quest.||
2.||Do every wishboard wish. Includes an obscure shakra one that you need to buy every map for.||

that's what I'm seeing online

[serene oxide]

there's multiple per region

[dapper summit]

ugh. time to back track

[serene oxide]

or it's only 2...

[foggy grotto]

follow up question: what parts of ||bellhart|| am I missing? I've explored everything around here pretty thoroughly I think, but am still missing ||4 bells.||

[serene oxide]

i dunno

there are like 30 fleas and a shit ton of regions

[barren ingot]

||There is an NPC that will give you a flea map in the PD region||

[serene oxide]

also oh the despot, can we say flea unspoiled

[barren ingot]

||Silver bells? Those just spawn randomly||

[serene oxide]

it's not like the name itself unlocks a plot point

[foggy grotto]

oh

well that's easier than I thought

[barren ingot]

oh I forgot to pin my poll

[serene oxide]

missed some disconnected rooms in other regions maybe?

[dapper summit]

i should explore more in ||Hunter's March||. i keep forgetting to completely explore it more if i missed anything important

[clever furnace]

||hunter's march doesn't have much branches tbf||

[barren ingot]

pretty tiny place

honestly I dunno why it isnt just considered part of ||far field||

[mellow sigil]

I feel like a lot of it was scrapped

maybe itll be extended in a dlc??

[dapper summit]

Silkband DLC

[serene oxide]

LinenBeat DLC

[mellow sigil]

||I hope in the next dlc theyll add another 50 bilewaters and replace every boss with groal||

that is my wish

||hunters march extended into bilewater when||

[clever furnace]

@mellow sigil what did you do for ||groal||

[mellow sigil]

what did I do to deserve it????

you're right. I am not worthy of such amazing boss

/silly

[serene oxide]

i hope the dlc for silksong will add more Weavernests

i want MORE dead advanced civilization lore

[clever furnace]

most annoying part is how they ||just float into the middle platforms to do the suction move and touch hornet for 2 damage ||
enemies should just walk into hornet more often smh it's so effective of a move

[serene oxide]

genuinely why are their old homes so cool

no such cool stuff in the white palace I'll tell you that

[hollow laurel]

||Groal soul mode when?||

[foggy grotto]

do I need to find ||every flea for flea quest?||

[hollow laurel]

||I think so||

[hollow laurel]

More unpredictable moments are needed in this game not enough ||trapped benches||

[digital robin]

Steel Soul:
||- Starts Courier quest

• Forgets Judge is still alive (not for long)
• Starts Courier quest||

GG EZ

[hardy jolt]

||khann would be peak if this was added,, 🔥||

[split sluice]

||did yoy check the first part||

[hardy jolt]

yees

[wise monolith]

ooo
very cool :3

holy peak

[opal totem]

Why do people want to buff ||khann|| so much, I think he's fine

[digital robin]

||Khann|| feels like a half-baked boss since once you dodge (or bait) the 1 attack that it uses he is left wide open for A LONG TIME to be bombarded with any crest. ||Wanderer spam, Beast berserk, Witch nuke, getting as much Hunter damage up. No matter what he will just be there standing, and then maybe jump||

[opal totem]

It gets fixed later into the fight when he speeds up

[wide ledge]

||groal eating you should inflict the maggotwater effect because bored||

[opal totem]

||Hits on groal when eaten shouldn't generate silk||

[digital robin]

||Our hate is forever||

[queen trench]

I did it! and with keyboard no less!

(hk)

[digital robin]

Phanteon 4?

[void prawn]

Oh please don't say I have to do the ||gourman food quest type quest||

[opal totem]

You don't have to but you'll regret it if you don't

[hollow laurel]

||Oh my god one of my friends accidentally got to act 2 from the mist lmao||

[clever furnace]

how are you supposed to find the answer to navigating that area
never saw any hint about ||silkflies knowing the way to go if you play the needolin on them||

[hollow laurel]

Guess

I almost got it myself without hints

Just didn’t put the dots together

||I mean once you know what a lost woods puzzle is it’s not really that hard to figure it out||

[clever furnace]

well personally I was tryna make sense of it like it was a maze

[glad stratus]

the loadout I use for farming (I use the farming spot in songclave)

[clever furnace]

you felt the need to farm? what for though?

[glad stratus]

||typically that spot gives you 31 rosaries per kill, whereas with this you get 55 and can go from 26 to 1250 rosaries in about 20 or so minutes||

[glad stratus]

||Mask shard and donation||

I can easily get it back

Shits busted

26-1250 in TWENTY MINUTES

[mental shuttle]

Silsonk

[hollow laurel]

shaw

[queen trench]

hegale

[opal totem]

Poshanka

[hollow laurel]

Poshanka!

[quiet sentinel]

poshanka

[trail pagoda]

welp this was fun

another one for the book

[quiet sentinel]

nice

[trail pagoda]

slay!

[mental shuttle]

Am I tweaking or was this enemy's damage reduced

I swear they did 2 masks

[mental shuttle]

Slain 💔

[clever furnace]

elder pilgrim did do 2 mask damage

[mental shuttle]

Great so im NOT tweaking

[clever furnace]

did that change? last I got hit by one it was 2 (4)

[mental shuttle]

The damage was reduced in an update but wasnt listed or smth
Because they do 1 damage

[clever furnace]

||man I hate barbed bracelet sm but the increased damage is genuinely addicting ||
||started a new run and hornet hits like a pool noodle istg||

[mental shuttle]

I remember getting hit and being confused why I only took 1 damage

[void prawn]

I got hit didn't think smacked the day lights outta it

[barren ingot]

I have decided I will do steel soul in small sessions

[trail pagoda]

Im wondering, cant I just kill the ||shellwood heart boss (forgor her name) by just pogoing off her head?||

Cuz I kinda tried it and it seemed to work

[mental shuttle]

This is optimal yes

[trail pagoda]

Cant wait to chain 3 crits

[mental shuttle]

Also ||grapple|| so you dont lose height

[trail pagoda]

Also that ||blade attack she does, I managed to fully parry it somehow||

[trail pagoda]

I have the ||cling grip||

[mental shuttle]

Parries in this game are way easier

[trail pagoda]

The thing is, im bad

[mental shuttle]

Well yeaj but instead of dashing towards it
||grapple||

[mental shuttle]

Trust me
Parries in the first game
Were hardly usable

[trail pagoda]

Ik

But still doesn't make me better

[mental shuttle]

They didnt even give iframes 💔

[trail pagoda]

I feel good for a moment

When I manage to parry a full multi attack

[trail pagoda]

Most optimal boss for hunter crest

[mental shuttle]

People are constantly shitting on the pogo

I think its good

And way more fun to pull off

[void prawn]

It's because nobody really adapts instantly from the straight down pogo to the like

30-45 degree pogo

So they don't take the time to adapt

And dump it after they get the next crest

[mental shuttle]

Mfs after the new game has new mechanics

[void prawn]

And it's always seems as "bad" due to being the starting crest

But it overall has a good fast moveset basic tool layouts and overall a faster fighting style

[stuck finch]

void.

[trail pagoda]

||upgraded makes it consistent, just dont get hit||

[trail pagoda]

I find it fun, I just dont play it much

[mental shuttle]

Its my main one because all the others have a strange quirk I dont like

[trail pagoda]

Im trying to do ||coral tower with shaman||

Cuz haha ||needolin fights now drain your tools normally||

Honestly that you be good as not a bug

Since its basically a dream

[clever furnace]

yiep, no bind gimmick or anything just ||don't get hit and be rewarded||

[trail pagoda]

Hardest part for me lol

[opal totem]

Huh

They shouldn't

[quiet sentinel]

we love spoilers in thumbnails ❤️

[hollow laurel]

yayyyyy

[quiet sentinel]

the most spoiler spoilers

[hollow laurel]

in 4k of course

[hardy jolt]

||showing the most spoilery part of the true ending cutscene directly in the middle for no reason is crazy||

||not even a boss ||

[hollow laurel]

i actually got spoiled on that, not even 3 days after release

||i thought they were going to be the final boss||

[hardy jolt]

rip :<

[hollow laurel]

still mad that i got spoiled because of a youtube thumbnail

the worst part is... i predicted thats how i would be spoiled lol

[quiet sentinel]

LITERALLY

[hollow laurel]

hasnt even been a month.... so evil

[mental shuttle]

Hey look
Not required boss
Not required boss
Not required boss
Not required boss
MOST SPOILER THING IN THE WHOLE GAME FOR NO FUCKING REASON (its not even a boss)

I fucking despise people who do this

You just hate people

[hollow laurel]

actually ||two of them are required||

[mental shuttle]

Id you do this

[hollow laurel]

but yeah it sucks

[mental shuttle]

Technically yes but not

[mental shuttle]

1?

[hollow laurel]

||savage beastfly quest ||

[mental shuttle]

Only ||groal|| is required on this list if youre going for an ending

[hollow laurel]

||is it not a prerequisite for the silk and song quest||

[mental shuttle]

Thats ||chapel beastfly||

Plus
You dont need ALL quests

[hollow laurel]

||you have to do that before though?||

maybe im completely wrong though

[mental shuttle]

Sub hasn't done ||savage beastfly|| and is in ||act 3||

[hollow laurel]

oh interesting

[lusty trout]

Tried steel soul i died to || ant guarding Hunters march||

[mental shuttle]

Early game HM my number 1 opp

Grrrr this game is so hard
leaves HM

[hardy jolt]

it be like that

[little ferry]

Sobbing what the duck

[hardy jolt]

i wanna try a playthrough but i use beast from the moment im able to get it till the end

[lusty trout]

I feel like || phantom is fastest way to citadel||

[hollow laurel]

it is (for now)

[hardy jolt]

its the speedrun strat

[lusty trout]

Might try for achievment

[mental shuttle]

Did you know
Cheating is the fastest way

[opal totem]

You will suffer a little

[hollow laurel]

yo cant believe world record is already 1 second long

[hardy jolt]

idk it seems pretty good

[opal totem]

Some bosses are really not made for it

But for the most part it's good enough

[lusty trout]

Do i || get beast crest on steel soul heard its good in HH room||

[opal totem]

Don't think it's much better than others

[mental shuttle]

Holy gambling

[hardy jolt]

learning speedrun strats

[mental shuttle]

||fifth chorus|| when???

(Floorless)

[glad stratus]

||the fact the chorus's were mass produced is a horrifying thought||

[mental shuttle]

Probably for mining purposes

[glad stratus]

What do you need to mine if you need that???😭

||why can't these fucks stop going missing||

[hardy jolt]

wait whaa
||is this taunt from beast crest??||

[queen trench]

oh wow I made it, on keyboard, I might be getting pretty good on keyboard with all this waiting

nvm stupid joke (deleted message)

[hardy jolt]

||so like multibinder is probably an insane synergy with beast crest since you can heal more and extend your fury for longer for more damage||

[glad stratus]

Do I gotta do ||putrid ducts|| :(

Also where is this ||wailing mother||

[broken plover]

(Hollow knight soilers smth idk)
||wandered into deepnest and ended up Killing Herrah, I wanted to kill the watcher guy first ||

[mild sand]

||the watcher like rain world||

👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

Im sorry

[glad stratus]

Dles a!yoneb know where she is

[mild sand]

Continue

[mental shuttle]

It also changes if you have ||rings|| equipped

[mental shuttle]

You track her

[hardy jolt]

||poshanka! ||

[glad stratus]

Not ||jubilina|| the ||wailing mother||

[mental shuttle]

You
Track her

[quiet sentinel]

awoooo

[mental shuttle]

???

[hardy jolt]

awwooo :3

[mild sand]

Lions roar

[broken plover]

Me when when me when the me when the uh me when the uh wehm uhm uhh when the uh

[mild sand]

I have 2 rosaries to my name

What can i buy

[glad stratus]

HEY SO DO I!!!

[broken plover]

2 buttons and some pocket lint

[hardy jolt]

you might be able to afford a grain of sand

[mild sand]

Omg!!! What if we come together to have 4 rosaries

[mild sand]

Ugghhh whaattthe fucckkk

[broken plover]

Double it and give it to the next person

[mild sand]

Everyones so GREEDY

how about 4 rosaries

What can i get with that

[broken plover]

Spare change for the poor?

Please I only have 1/2 of a rosary

[mild sand]

I have a really funny gif in response to this but i cant send it

[broken plover]

Tenor blasted 🫵

[mild sand]

Im going to pregnant blast you now

[broken plover]

[mild sand]

And some bricks

[broken plover]

What the FUCK
/silly

Your too evil

[mild sand]

RAAAGGHHH

[mild sand]

Oh my god i cant why is every gif tenor

[broken plover]

This was a social experiment youve could've gotten 10 rosaries if you were mr nice guy but not anymore

[mild sand]

Im walking on landmines here man

[mild sand]

How about i rob you

[hardy jolt]

omg the silly

[broken plover]

No please theyre all I have

[mild sand]

Too late

[quiet sentinel]

watcha up to error :3

[mild sand]

So broke every time you open your wallet a little fly comes out

[hardy jolt]

||tryna use beast crest :3 its actually quite fun||

[mild sand]

||i like the idea but the downwards attack is very||

Not good

[hardy jolt]

you get used to it
the dps with the fury is insane

[broken plover]

||I like putting quick nail and mark of pride to pogo stick off enemies in hollow knight :3 ||

[mild sand]

||quick nail and mark of pride are always on my build ||

[mild sand]

I heard ||witch crest|| is pretty good

[quiet sentinel]

:3 niceee

[hardy jolt]

|||the 3 blue slots are very nice||

[mild sand]

Guhh ||THREE? How will i use my precious other colours||

[opal totem]

Misinformation

[opal totem]

||It's not as nice when you have to spend them to make bind more useable||

[hardy jolt]

correct information

[mild sand]

Well tell my eyes they have a malfunction because they sent a signal to my brain that told me this is not good /silly

[opal totem]

True

[broken plover]

Should i buy silksong, or should I continue hollow knight until me beat it

[mild sand]

Maybe finish up on hollow knight so youre not stuck between games

[opal totem]

Buy silksong and keep playing hollow knight

Gotta fund those dlcs

[lusty trout]

Collect my SHAWS

[glad stratus]

||STOP BIRTHING YIU FUCK||

[glad stratus]

Yay I have ||the lazer||

[glad stratus]

Yeah this is the best tool ever

Hella fun

[mental shuttle]

Hey did you guys hear about hungry knight

Just came out

Its by this little known group called team cherry

[opal totem]

I want more silksong

Time to start 5th playthrough

[mental shuttle]

The main character looks silly

[mental shuttle]

Whats a siksong

[opal totem]

Some sort of cake I think

[quiet sentinel]

are you gonna blindly route or follow any% routing

[mental shuttle]

1 second any% true ending

[opal totem]

I'm gonna chill in steel soul without save quits

Not feeling like 5h yet

[quiet sentinel]

oh i misread

oops

i still havent started another steel soul

i should tomorrow is my last day off

[opal totem]

Every day is silksong day

[quiet sentinel]

unfortunately my job doesnt agree

[mental shuttle]

The only speedruns I have are speedrun 1 and speed completion from the first game

Sob

[opal totem]

Fortunately 80% of my job is sitting on my ass doing whatever I want

[mental shuttle]

The only game ive gone for a proper speedrun on purpose
Uhhhhh
Crow country i think

Cut down 9 hours into 1

Lmaooo

[quiet sentinel]

lucky

[mental shuttle]

I could still do better tho

[opal totem]

Did you not do hk speedrun achievements

Or are we not counting achievements as proper speedruns

[quiet sentinel]

meanwhile i have to get up at 4am, go through a 15m screening in and out, and work early or really late and barely have energy for other things

its awesome

[opal totem]

I can relate to no energy part

[mental shuttle]

@opal totem

I literally

[opal totem]

I literally an undertale fan

Even though I'm not

[mental shuttle]

The only reason I managed these is because I just so happened to be at that time frame

I wasnt doing it on purpose

Intentionally

Whatever

[opal totem]

God gamer

[quiet sentinel]

yea i got the hk ones accidentally without even knowing they existed on my blind playthrough

i like the silksong ones

[mental shuttle]

I did them on repeat playthroughs

[quiet sentinel]

since youre very unlikely to get either on a first playthrough

[mental shuttle]

Skong seems HARD to get those

Especially 5h

[quiet sentinel]

5h one is a walk in the park

[opal totem]

30h one is very lenient

Could've cut it down to 25h

[quiet sentinel]

ive said it before ill say it again it took me only 2 hours to do it

and i know nothing about speedrunning or time saves

[mental shuttle]

5h on hk is too much for me

Sob

[quiet sentinel]

i didnt even do half the skips

[mental shuttle]

My autistic ass NEEDS that completion number to go up

Or I die

[quiet sentinel]

yea that wouldve been closer

[dapper summit]

hi guys. i got trolled by a mere fake floor in ||Chapel of the Beast||

[mental shuttle]

A what

[dapper summit]

steps on floor
thinking im safe
floor breaks into a spike floor
troll.jpg

[mental shuttle]

I dont
Remember that

[opal totem]

Yeah

Not in that place

[mental shuttle]

Actually

I dont remember

Any fake floors in this game

[opal totem]

I do

[mental shuttle]

That was more a deepnest thing

[dapper summit]

well it did happen while i was on one mask left

[opal totem]

There were few in ||lower bellveins||

[mental shuttle]

Oh yeah

True

||Silver bells|| quest sucks btw

[dapper summit]

also how tf do i ||disarm the bench trap in Hunter's March||

[mental shuttle]

Fake wall ❤️

[opal totem]

You walk left

[dapper summit]

TYSM 🥹

[opal totem]

Why does ||bell beast have the first silk heart|| anyway

[mellow sigil]

because ||shes the BEST she deserves it!!!!!||

[quiet sentinel]

wruff

[ashen badger]

Why is that anyway
||aren't silk hearts usually in weaver related bosses||

[ashen badger]

||With weaver related i mean related to silk and gms in case that wasn't clear||

[opal totem]

Yeah, in what way ||bell beast is weaver related||

||Other than being stuck in the web for a bit||

[mellow sigil]

||maybe the silk heart comes from the web (source of the web??) they were stuck in ||

||or it is the source of that web||

[opal totem]

||Might as well get silk heart from any bellhart resident then||

[mellow sigil]

||not enough web for a whole silk heart!!!||

[opaque shard]

i dont think this is soilers but just incase
(Hornet girlboss monokrome exercise)

[mellow sigil]

||we should be able to pile them all together and collect another 50 silk hearts||

[opal totem]

||The dialogue of this silk heart also seems to come from weavers||

Idk how to make sense of it

[ashen badger]

||web was comfy ig||

[ashen badger]

That's the most likely explanation ig

[opal totem]

Anyway check out this cool steel soul gameplay

[quiet sentinel]

now why would you do that

[opaque shard]

Fire

[opal totem]

Major skill issue

[opaque shard]

literally

[mellow sigil]

oh my god

[opal totem]

First I thougt there's ground, then I panicked, I have no excuse for the last one

[opaque shard]

Why didnt you buy the magma bell 😭

[opal totem]

Because I'm not supposed to need it that early

[quiet sentinel]

magma bell more like poo bell

[opaque shard]

Better than dying

[opal totem]

I'd still take 4 dmg with it here and then probably die to a fly

[opaque shard]

Are you a game journalist?

[opal totem]

I don't think so

My first steel soul went a lot better

[lilac temple]

I love moorwing

Jk…….

[quiet sentinel]

8th steel soul run, surely this one persists

i also learnt that dying in ||elegy battles|| doesnt count as an actual death so i can rest easy about ||karmelita ||being a road block

i mean i still have the 30h limit but that seems lenient from everyones experiences so it really shouldnt be bad

[opal totem]

I wonder if losing to ||first sinner|| ends steel soul

[quiet sentinel]

nope

||the 2 duals and sinner dont perma-kill you||

i think

i know i heard it somewhere

[opal totem]

Dual

[ashen badger]

Hell yeah

||fucking love first sinner||

[opal totem]

Yeah

[ashen badger]

||Free boss for steel soul||

[ashen badger]

This is pure blasphemy

[tawdry osprey]

i love moss mother

[quiet sentinel]

i wonder what happens if you ||4th chorus skip|| and then return once you ||have the savage beastfly 2 quest active||

[opal totem]

It probably won't activate until you beat the boss

[quiet sentinel]

imagine both of them at the same time

actually i would rather not

[tawdry osprey]

nah you would love it

go for it

[quiet sentinel]

no :(

id probably die attempting the skip

im off to ||moorwing|| with 5 masks

[ashen badger]

Moss is yum

[quiet sentinel]

nvm ig lol

okay yea it probably just comes back and then only after its defeated the quest probably appears, im pretty sure the wish wont even be posted if it still hasnt been defeated if i had to guess lol

[ashen badger]

How do u even skip it

[quiet sentinel]

the damageless way ||is dash-jump at the latest moment, stall with bind, buffer your cloak, dash, buffer again and ledge grab||

but whatever i just did also works so its lenient

[ashen badger]

||Could you, in theory reach the citadel through blasted steps without getting the cloak?||

[quiet sentinel]

not on current patch no

[ashen badger]

Thus also skipping it

Ah damn

[quiet sentinel]

cloakless was patched out because the one singular ledge where it was forced you could actually grab onto a bit of wall sticking out

but it was fixed next patch so now its essentially required

[ashen badger]

What upgrade from among the assentials can you actually skip

[hardy jolt]

i actually really wanna test this if nobody else does LMAO

it sounds funny as hell

[quiet sentinel]

go for it :3

[hardy jolt]

bet :3

[quiet sentinel]

for any% currently the route is ||dash, cloak, claw, needolin (for mist), and grapple|| so you really cant skip anything, silksong was designed really well, and ||wings|| arent necessary

much like hk theyre for the optional extra content and adittional endings

youre basically forced to go get the essentials since the ||threefold song|| requires them indirectly to get them

theres no other way to get up to ||lace 2||

[mental shuttle]

Um
You can just noclip 🙄

[quiet sentinel]

no

[velvet trench]

It was possible to skip ||cloak|| but they patched it out

[quiet sentinel]

[velvet trench]

Who scrolls up smh

[quiet sentinel]

:monksia

fuck

how are you chiki

hows ||act 3|| :3

[velvet trench]

Haven’t been able to play it for a few days cause my carpal tunnel is acting up again

[quiet sentinel]

ah

stretch out your wrist

[tawdry osprey]

Hi chiki

[velvet trench]

Mm I finished ||fleatopia|| and was tryna do ||coral tower|| last I played

[quiet sentinel]

hitless :3

feels good to be improving

[tawdry osprey]

So bright I don’t even know who that is

[quiet sentinel]

honestly 45m pretty good pace for the 30h

[quiet sentinel]

||moorwing||

[velvet trench]

Nice

[tawdry osprey]

||should have skipped it for the act 3 fight||

[velvet trench]

Only 66h on ur main save….im 90h in and barely started ||act 3||

[tawdry osprey]

We all explore the game at our own pace

[quiet sentinel]

whats that

[tawdry osprey]

||if you skip act 1 moorwing with the flea caravan you get an act 3 fight were moorwing is voided 🥹 ||

[quiet sentinel]

what the fuck

i just got ||snared by the silk||

[velvet trench]

Ye that happens if u quit there

[quiet sentinel]

?>?? thats so cool lol

[velvet trench]

Frr

[quiet sentinel]

im good thanks

[tawdry osprey]

Are you sure

[velvet trench]

||moorwing took me 6h, tho that was pre-nerf….voided moorwing sounds like hell||

[tawdry osprey]

|| not as bad as voided lugoli (the chef in sinners road)||

[digital robin]

Hey chat, do you want to play a game? Try to find Hornet in the following image (draw a circle arround her or something) :

[velvet trench]

I’m so glad I did that before ||act 3||, that one took me 12h 🥹

[quiet sentinel]

yea, i needed to go through ||greymoor to unlock stagway and halfway home anyways for later so itd be a timeloss to skip the area like that||

[tawdry osprey]

Yeah it’s very awful if you leave it for later

[digital robin]

||The alt-Moorwing arena|| has a lot of cheese spot sude to roofs covering a lot of projectiles, is so silly

[velvet trench]

||alt moorwing?||

[digital robin]

||Morwing appears in 2 spots. If you skip the act 1 fight you also get a reward (beast shard)||

[mental shuttle]

Im evil

[lilac temple]

erm so I got a question

|| is collecting the 3 songs endgame ||

lmao

|| I know about act 3!! ||

|| but like end of act 2 ||

[quiet sentinel]

oh yeah im also doing quilless for the ||secret quill||

[velvet trench]

Kinda

[quiet sentinel]

i think thatd be a fun way to top off the 100% steam achievs

[lilac temple]

why the hell would you do that

just do steel soul atp

[quiet sentinel]

look at my spool

[lilac temple]

You got a texture pack!!

[velvet trench]

Quilless steel soul…

Why do you hate yourself

🥹

[quiet sentinel]

i personally think its fun to test myself

[lilac temple]

There’s prolly like a no hit achievement

[velvet trench]

Fair enough

[lilac temple]

For the entire game

[digital robin]

||Songs are quite similar to the dreamers||

[lilac temple]

idk what that is

[velvet trench]

Base HK

[digital robin]

Hollow Knight dreamers

open the door to the final boss arena

[lilac temple]

Ah

I’m still gonna try and 100%

[quiet sentinel]

the funny

[lilac temple]

so wait you can’t die in steel soul

how is that even possible to beat

how many times have you failed

Also can you save and quit mid fight

To save a run

[hardy jolt]

yes

and like if ur experienced enough with the game its not too bad

especially with some tools

cough ||lifeblood vial||

[quiet sentinel]

im still not sure why she was nerfed or what the nerf was

[quiet sentinel]

yea that is gonna be my strat

im not risking ||hh arena death|| again

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

so im just gonna make a detour for vial x3

that should carry me well

i keep instinctively pressing the ||grapple|| key

silksong movement brainrot

im so nervous uhmmm

[velvet trench]

You got thiss

[hardy jolt]

gl

[quiet sentinel]

:(

i made it to phase 2 then misread an attack while trying to heal

[broken plover]

||what the fuck why is Grey prince Zote so hard ||

[opal totem]

Can't believe zote is in silksong

[broken plover]

||maybe I shouldn't immediately go From failed champion to Zote||

[knotty stirrup]

Silksong would be better if Hornet didn't deny being on a Pilgrimage

[blissful obsidian]

who gave sprinkles sentience

[broken plover]

I did

[tawdry osprey]

Sprinkles always had sentience

[dapper summit]

i just arrived at ||Haunted Bellhart|| and... wtf

[opal totem]

Pro steel soul tip: ||rush hunter's march so you get help from Shakra in that arena||

[digital robin]

||DDLC moment||

Congrats on (probably) beating the previous boss

[digital robin]

When does Shakra disapears?

[opal totem]

||I think after getting the cloak? Not sure||

[dapper summit]

so real

[hardy jolt]

@quiet sentinel ||so the savage beastly quest wont appear until fourth chorus is killed ||

[digital robin]

||RIP, how I'm meant to have a somewhat hard fight. I wanted to fight BOTH at the same time (they are too easy)||

[quiet sentinel]

yea i assumed as much x333 thanks for testing

[digital robin]

Can you test what happen if you reach the ||conductor melody before dealing with cogdancers to get the quest? The easy way is Phantom -> Songclave (get the WW key from the ground) -> White Ward to reach the Architect area -> Hook -> Mount Fay for wings (if you want to have an easier time) -> HH -> HH arena||. I wanted to try but steel soul (I don't feel like rushing that with no extra help)

[quiet sentinel]

nothing interesting happens

[hardy jolt]

sounds like fun ill try that :3

[hardy jolt]

oh

rip

[quiet sentinel]

you just get the quest after and once you play the tune it unlocks it

[digital robin]

||Is the NPC dialogue the same + you learn it instantly there or do you need to go to the other place before being able to go back there?|| 🧐

[quiet sentinel]

nothing changes in the dialogue, you still get the quest dialogue explaining it

[digital robin]

Btw new update 1.0.28714

[opal totem]

What there

[digital robin]

no patchnotes yet

[opal totem]

Did they nerf ||wanderer|| yet

[digital robin]

||They swapped the wanderer and reaper hit-speed||

[quiet sentinel]

wait what

[opal totem]

Finally a reason for me to tolerate that up slash

[quiet sentinel]

how do you know if theres no patch notes
also what that doesnt sound true

[hardy jolt]

it isnt true :3 silly

[quiet sentinel]

it doesnt need a nerf

[opal totem]

It does

[quiet sentinel]

oh

[digital robin]

1. You can play the game (it's a steam update, probably with a few bugfixes)

[quiet sentinel]

it wasnt funny the first time

[digital robin]

2. Sarcasm: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain

[quiet sentinel]

why

[digital robin]

Wanderer is one of the best crests

[opal totem]

Highest dps + best silk gen + practically no downside

[digital robin]

and they nerfed ||Architect|| which is one of the best for slow-play

[quiet sentinel]

i dont see the issue

silksong is a single player game

[opal totem]

Single player games shouldn't be immune to balance

[quiet sentinel]

whats wrong with people choosing a crest they enjoy playing with, strong or not

[quiet sentinel]

yeah this is horrible logic

idk if youve ever developed a game before

but its okay to have fun things

[opal totem]

They ignore everything else because one thing is superior

Doesn't sound as fun as everything being balanced

[quiet sentinel]

why are you so concerned with what others are doing

[digital robin]

I honestly prefer buffs to nerfs. But wanderer tends to be one of the best and make all others sub-optimal to choose

[quiet sentinel]

every day this conversation changes

[digital robin]

||Only Beast and Witch, both quite a bit harder to use can match their DPS||

[quiet sentinel]

first it was ||architect, then it was shaman, then it was beast, now its wanderer again||

ppl need to make up their mind

[opal totem]

Overall yeah but if you always stick to that logic that's just powercreep

[opal totem]

I didn't say to make it not fun

[quiet sentinel]

have you played any other metroidvanias or soulslikes

having powercreep utility is nothing new

[opal totem]

It being nothing new doesn't make it good

[quiet sentinel]

i guarantee you if wanderer got nerfed people are gonna start complaining about architect lol

[digital robin]

||Architec was overdone. Charged attack builds + Tool spam where both really good, and even if you don't use it it has some of the biggest ranges + overdose. They nerfed a bit the meele aspect (which is secondary), while making charged attacks give silk if you want a slow but easy to hit crest. Still the only with passive healing + super big range + true tool spam, but atleast not the best in other secondar stuff||

[quiet sentinel]

i think wanderer is fine, high swing speed and crits allows for aggressive close up playstyle, and countering the range with longclaw is the point, youre giving up a slot to balance something out already

i think its in a good spot and i dont even use it anymore

once you learn how to use other crests

wanderer is actually overshadoweed a lot

it doesnt need a nerf, people just need to learn how to use other crests

[opal totem]

It's stupid that wanderer is about as good at aggressive attack spam as beast

[digital robin]

||The problem is that some other crests require 2 or 3 slots to counter it and is still problematic (Witch being the main one). Once you learn bosses, unless they are air enemies the range is not a problem and you get one of the best DPS whit the only condition of reacting when you feel it's about to attack again. Hitless Hunter shouldn't be bellow Facetanking wanderer where you can heal since you get a giant ammount of silk||

[quiet sentinel]

man idk you can go send an email to team cherry or whatever

its a bit draining to bear the conversation here so often

you can dislike aspects of a game but please dont lie about patch notes and be confusing about it

even as a joke

[quiet sentinel]

how would you nerf it, i dont think i ever asked

[digital robin]

We were CLEARLY joking with Hmoorking about the fast crest now being the slowest one

after they ask

[opal totem]

||I'd remove crit, I don't know how else to nerf it||

[quiet sentinel]

i wouldnt remove it but id just nerf the damage

||1.5x instead of 3x on crit||

like thats one of the most satisfying things abt it

removing it would kinda suck a lot

[opal totem]

||Move crit to dice||

Without nerfing

[digital robin]

||Either you make it a bit slower or do a bit less damage (so you give a reason to play with the others if you can only hit once anyways) ||

[quiet sentinel]

so would crit work on other crests like that'

dice would be incredibly op

[opal totem]

Yeah

Kind of

So maybe not

[quiet sentinel]

its not an easy solution as you can see

[opal totem]

||I think nerfed dmg wanderer would still be decent due to silk gen||

[quiet sentinel]

its easy to want a nerf

my proposal would be just change silk gain to 0.5 each hit

since the silk gen seems to be a reoccuring thing

[digital robin]

Honestly the crit should be a reaper thing. You know the "death" crest having a chance of instakilling weak enemies or doing big damage. And since it's the training weels crest most of the time you don't have silk to keep the effect active

[quiet sentinel]

i think reaper is fine where it sits, but it is kinda a noob trap

[opal totem]

You're making such a deal out of me wanting it nerfed and yet you're ruining the fun of it with nerf ideas

[quiet sentinel]

im proving the point that its not easy to nerf

im not making a deal out of you wanting this

[digital robin]

You recognize it. ||Reaper is easy to use but really bad when you can use others, while wanderer is a bit harder to start using but the best (or one of the top 3 atleast), where it gives the best damage without extra things needed, and then gets random crits sometimes||

[quiet sentinel]

im simply tired of this being a conversation here almost daily

[opal totem]

||I wish reaper's extra silk gain was a passive rather than a bind active||

||Like 1/3-1/2 extra per hit, could make up for dps loss||

[quiet sentinel]

this wouldnt even be as impactful as you think

[digital robin]

Btw, I was curious to check

[quiet sentinel]

when i played with it for the entirety of act 2 i basically always had full spool

just dont remove the crit man

[digital robin]

||Shakra, and probably G and Zaza, don't "kill you" when you duel them. And as such Steel Soul doesn't get deleated||

[quiet sentinel]

thats the dopamine

yes, thats correct

[opal totem]

Cutting something in half is very much impactful

[quiet sentinel]

neither does ||sinner||

[digital robin]

||I imagine all 3 hearts (+ Verdania) also doesn't||

[quiet sentinel]

i still think the idea of decreasing crit damage is the correct play

thats where a lot of the extra dps comes from

[opal totem]

Not really

Whole 2%

[quiet sentinel]

and flat damage shouldnt be base

[digital robin]

2.2% ||everyone uses dices||

[opal totem]

That's still nowhere as impactful as extra attack speed

[digital robin]

||With 0% crits I think it out-DPS everything else (even hitless hunter)||

[quiet sentinel]

like i said personally its not even an issue and people will grow out of the noob trap

im really loving hunter moveset

[opal totem]

||Doesn't it still lose to max focus hunter and beasat||

[quiet sentinel]

practising flawless stuff and hunter is actually super solid

[opal totem]

It's not a noob trap if it's effective

Reaper is a noob trap, wanderer is just that good

[quiet sentinel]

its only effective if you know how to use it

[clever furnace]

hunter indeed hits like a truck upgraded

[digital robin]

||Max focus is slightly bellow wanderer for what I heard (arround the same level with a completly different skill needed, in one you can facetank to get extra hits while the other needs to be super safe)||

[quiet sentinel]

yea its huge

im doing my steel soul 100% with it

[digital robin]

||Beast berserk and Witch nukes are the only things that can compete with that, other than tools||

[opal totem]

Stand near an enemy and spam attack button? Insane skill cap

And outheal most of incoming damage because your silk gen is also boosted

[quiet sentinel]

i think youre underestimating the difficulty of silksong because you have experience

most casual players arent as good as you or i

its an unfair bias

[opal totem]

Am I really misjudging it when I see every other streamer do exactly that on their first playthrough

[quiet sentinel]

i still dont see the issue

are you getting upset because people are playing the game wrong or having an easier time

im still incredibly confused about where this is coming from

you mentioned game balance but thats not your decision

if team cherry did something and keeps it that way then they dont care enough to see it as an issue or its as intended

theyre already doing changes to crests

so you cant even say theyre not paying attention

this just seems to be deeply rooted as a distaste for other people not feeling the "true challenge" of the game

[clever furnace]

mae what are ur favorite active tools

[quiet sentinel]

so long as players are having fun, they can do whatever

use whanderer, remove double damage with a mod, ect

game is beautiful and having it accessible to more people and using certain tools and items and crests as a crutch is totally okay

[quiet sentinel]

like the offensive ones?

[clever furnace]

red

[quiet sentinel]

i really like ||cogwork flies because theyre cute and lots of damage and they also sing :3||

otherwise uhh i spent pretty much my entire playthrough using ||the floating traps that hornet has in the original game||

theyre really good to setup with

clearing arenas, bosses

solid all around

[split sluice]

||going for speedrun achievement, just got needolin, I think I'm on a good pace||

[digital robin]

||Wander + Cogwork ||

[quiet sentinel]

i get so jumpscared when i hear the third sanctuary from deltarune ost now

cause i set that as my ringtone a month ago so now whenever i hear it i think someone is calling me

[digital robin]

||Act 1 is half the speedrun, Widow + Phantom/Judge in 1 hour would be a decent pacing||

[quiet sentinel]

yea! really good pace

i was 1h too and around there and i got the achiev in 2 hours

[split sluice]

||I run wanderer, Cogwork is my favorite tool since it supports my needle well||

[quiet sentinel]

ive recently been seeing lots of people talk about ||flint||

i wanna implement into hunter i think

[split sluice]

||My next step is going after Phantom, I want parry and I just think it’s more convenient (apart from the mist)||

[quiet sentinel]

it is

any% uses ||mist route||

[clever furnace]

Do y'all main ||cross stitch?|| I thought of it as too situational

[split sluice]

||cross stitch is peak IMO||

[quiet sentinel]

its situational

it would be better if it had tracking

[split sluice]

||It’s situational but I love it so||

[quiet sentinel]

half the time it just misses your opponent

[digital robin]

||Phantom leaves you next to Songclave and Dancers (also belway to get nail 2), while Judge forces you to go trough a few extra areas to reach the upper corridor of the citadel||

[quiet sentinel]

its good on stationary targets for sure

[split sluice]

||The other options don’t work for me as well||

[quiet sentinel]

you should try implementing ||pale nails|| into your builds

really good option for flying enemies that get too far

that way you dont spend half a minute trying to lure it x3

[split sluice]

||small issue: Act 3||

[digital robin]

||If you see minions being spawned, instantly doing the thread storm tends to delete them, useful in arenas / bosses like Splitter with lots of minions. But parry is a nice alternative for 1v1 and ground enemies||

[quiet sentinel]

yea it sucks you get it so late into the game

thankfully you can still rush it at the start of the act and have fun with it :3

[digital robin]

||Cogflies and Fay Silkshot are nice alternatives to that||

[split sluice]

||can you? I thought you needed silk soar||

[quiet sentinel]

ngl is it just me or did i find the ||silkshot|| dmg really underwhelming

all versions are kinda dissapointing for how cool they sound

[opal totem]

It feels like it's more than it actually is

[quiet sentinel]

yea

[clever furnace]

ig it's got ||piercing|| which can be good

[quiet sentinel]

i used it like once in the entire playthrough ||fay version||

[opal totem]

I prefer ||curveclaw||

[digital robin]

||Fay sniper is nice due to the range and piercing, being super good in grounded groups||

[quiet sentinel]

ill try out one of the other versions on the steelsoul

but they seemed even worse

screw it ||rosary cannon build||

[digital robin]

||The 4th gun (the worst)||

[opal totem]

||Forge daughter's silkshot feels like a straight pin that also costs silk||

[quiet sentinel]

you know what a decent change for the cannon could be

[opal totem]

||Haven't played much with architect's one but it feels pretty low on damage too||

[quiet sentinel]

||you get rosaries back only if they hit an enemy, incentivising accuracy and maybe then itd be more useful||

and you have to pick them up off the floor

[opal totem]

Eh just give it more damage

[quiet sentinel]

cause i dont think anyones ever used it unironically

platinum gun terraria

[clever furnace]

doesn't fix the low ammo capacity for low dps issue though

[opal totem]

At least platinum gun did damage

[quiet sentinel]

give it the different rosary size treatment

[quiet sentinel]

oh yea i forget it has an ammo cap

[quiet sentinel]

once you watch the dmg tests (idk if youve seen them) you really start to understand how much the other 2 suck in comparison even more 😭

watcher update watcher update

whats another tool that noone ever uses

[digital robin]

||Still useless, the problem is the damge is so HILERIOSLY low that a full round (80 rosaries) can kill 1 or 2 enemies. While any tool alone can kill an enemy if you use it 1 or 2 times well||

[quiet sentinel]

oh wow

i guess its just a joke item then

joke

[opal totem]

Maybe tc just forgot to add damage scaling with upgrades

[digital robin]

If you want it to be decent maybe make it give ||a status effect (like poison) that kills it over time. Like some person said that one time 8 seconds of bleed, BUFFED!||

[quiet sentinel]

oh does ||pollip|| work on it

[opal totem]

Doesn't make a lot of sense

[quiet sentinel]

if so is it a decent way of reapplying it for cheap and multiple times

[opal totem]

Idk, might as well use ||straight pin|| for that

[quiet sentinel]

yeahh

[digital robin]

||80 rounds, if they could kill anyone with 1 round even if it's slow, it will give the niche of "the stall weapon"||

[opal totem]

"Waiting for my enemies to die of old age" build

[digital robin]

She trully destroys any semblance of difficulty in this arena

||2 gals not looking at explosions while destroying an entire ¿parliament?||

[quiet sentinel]

yall ever play tunic

really good puzzle oriented metroidvania you should play i think silksongers would enjoy it

[digital robin]

LOL

||I absolutly obliterated Lace 2||

[tawdry osprey]

yes

[opal totem]

I sucked at tunic

[digital robin]

It's usually compared to Rain World, Animal Well and other "metroid-brainias" more than metroidvanias

[quiet sentinel]

youre so cool

WHAT ONLY 13 HOURS how

[quiet sentinel]

true, animal well is also goated

did you know i actually held world record for animal well true ending for a few months

its a really good game

[opal totem]

I was fine with rain world and animal well but tunic was too much of no handholding

And I didn't like its combat

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

i think thats the beauty of it, getting to decipher the language and everything is so cool

[hardy jolt]

i havent played tunic but i like animal well :3

[quiet sentinel]

thats fair though, the isometric combat is a bit too much for some

[quiet sentinel]

hehe

[digital robin]

Titan Souls

[quiet sentinel]

its really good!

[dim harbor]

i have arrived somewhere i really wish i didn t ||mossy my friend what happened to you?||

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

[hardy jolt]

awesome :33

[quiet sentinel]

everyone should also play this somewhat obscure game called deltarune

[hardy jolt]

wruff

[hardy jolt]

||massive moss chargers but evil||

[quiet sentinel]

damn... not even top 3 anumore

[hardy jolt]

true!!

[dim harbor]

||massive moss chargers but too many tentacles and horror||

[quiet sentinel]

me when i eat all the glowing snow

[hardy jolt]

||we love putrified ducts||

[quiet sentinel]

(one of the best osts ever)

actually tbh every single ch3 soundtrack is on its own level

[hardy jolt]

its green cus its tasty :3

[quiet sentinel]

aaaa im so excited for future chapters

squeaks

ahem anyways :3

[hardy jolt]

chapter 5 is gonna be awesome

[opal totem]

Does silksong get more relatable than this?

[tawdry osprey]

theres actually a reason

[quiet sentinel]

whats wrong with him why is he doing that

[quiet sentinel]

LITERALLY im gonna sink all my fangs into the lore and story so hard

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

funny thing i never played ch2 when it was out, i only new it existed when ch3 and 4 came out LOL

last i played deltarune was survery program

suirvey*

whatever keyboard

[tawdry osprey]

i didnt play the game on steam at first

yeah, so steam was my replay

thats why i have few hours

[quiet sentinel]

ooh fair :3

i was like goddamn you must be REALLY good at puzzles huh

x3

it took me 10 hours alone to decipher ||trunic||

i think i still have my document that makes me look absolutely insane LMAO

[tawdry osprey]

the endgame puzzles are so harddaskjladskds

and finding the last few secrets

my steam savefile is kinda just me going everywhere after knowing the entire game to get the achievements

[quiet sentinel]

yea very, i never actually did the ||glyph tower|| cause i got to the ||website|| and realized it required spectogram stuff so i just never did it and looked it up after i found it

[tawdry osprey]

i havent found a persona that did that without searching yet lol

[quiet sentinel]

yea LMAO

[delicate nexus]

???

[quiet sentinel]

bunch of translating and scribbles to remind myself of stuff

[tawdry osprey]

search from ||whispering vaults|| (direct hint)

[quiet sentinel]

but yea its a gorgeous game and honestly perfect, which hurts because nothing else could ever be like tunic, but i wanna like wipe my memory just to experience playing games like tunic or animal well for the first time again

[digital robin]

BRO, this is DISGUSTING ||Wanderer + Longnail is big enough to reach Silk and combo her into oblivion if it doesn't want to go slightly up)||

[quiet sentinel]

thats what sucks about knowledge based games

[tawdry osprey]

oh animal well was cool too i also played that one

[quiet sentinel]

mhm :3

have you played FEZ or ESA?

[tawdry osprey]

whats esa

[quiet sentinel]

Environmental Station Alpha

[tawdry osprey]

no idea

[quiet sentinel]

metroidbrania with a puzzle focused postgame like animal well has

[tawdry osprey]

and if fez is fez i now the game but havent played it

[quiet sentinel]

really good

[opal totem]

Oh is that another game from baba is you dev

Or noita dev

[quiet sentinel]

i think if you enjoyed tunic and animal well youll enjoy them

[quiet sentinel]

yeah, he worked on both those games

its genuinely a hidden gem its kinda sad

[tawdry osprey]

hmmmm i enjoyed a lot

ill... check it out

[quiet sentinel]

sweet :3

fez puzzles are pretty straight forward with only a bit of note taking required

[digital robin]

GMS beaten with: ||Hunter, Reaper/Architect (don't remeber)?, Witch and Wanderer. As per usual wanderer makes it a lot easier||

[quiet sentinel]

esa makes you feel like you are losing your sanity with some of the post-game secrets

[tawdry osprey]

lol fair

[quiet sentinel]

youll scream WHAT every 2 seconds once you get to that point

(personal experience)

GRAH i could ramble on abt puzzle games forever

foams at the mouth

indie games are awesome waiter waiter more indie titles please

[opal totem]

They're ok I think

[quiet sentinel]

its peak..

if you enjoyed deciphering trunic btw you would also enjoy chants of senaar

[quiet sentinel]

its a game all about learning a new language through object cues and filling out your journal to build upon conversations

but i feel like it handholds you a bit too much and is easily brute forced so if you set yourself some limitations it can still be enjoyable

[opal totem]

Maybe I might enjoy it

[quiet sentinel]

i recommend it

i havent finished it yet due to it kinda getting a bit overwhelming

throwing too much information at you to keep track of

[tawdry osprey]

looks... cool

[hardy jolt]

that sounds like alot of fun

[quiet sentinel]

it is, i think the story is also very sweet

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1931770/Chants_of_Sennaar/

Steam

Chants of Sennaar

Winner of Best Indie Game at the 2024 New York Game Awards and nominated multiple times at other ceremonies including The Game Awards and the BAFTA, Chants of Sennaar is a critically-acclaimed puzzle and adventure game developed by Rundisc.

Divided since the dawn of time, the Peoples of the Tower no longer speak to each other, isolated by fear…

Price

$19.99

Recommendations

22823

Metacritic

86

▶ Play video

[digital robin]

Steel Soul ||Bell Eater done, time to do most of Act 3||

[quiet sentinel]

gl

[delicate nexus]

sigh

[digital robin]

This one is not that bad

[delicate nexus]

found it

[dapper summit]

ight im at ||The Widow bossfight||

[quiet sentinel]

anyways, 1am, nini

[delicate nexus]

gotta find ||Yarnaby|| now..

[hardy jolt]

gn :33 eep well

[dapper summit]

ostcpsugaucpwuvpus2&);9

[digital robin]

Isn't weird that you can't access a decent map tool until the post-game?

[digital robin]

What is your PB people? (Post game)

[hardy jolt]

i think mines likeeee

101

[opal totem]

80 something

[sudden plover]

Who would win? Hornet or a guy with a machine gun?

[opaque shard]

How about hornet with a machine gun ?

[digital robin]

Trick question: Does Hornet ||equiped the Wanderer crest||?

[barren ingot]

||I just did the bare minimums for the memento||

[digital robin]

||This was my Pail oil attempt nº2 (I usually play for the High score in case I get over the memento)||

[opaque shard]

Hornet with ||beats crest (heal boost) + flintgem + flea beverage ||

[sudden plover]

Why are there 80 hornets (I have no clue what this UI means)

[opaque shard]

Its postgame

[digital robin]

Ice is about to be scolded

[barren ingot]

||we consider the existence of act 3 a spoiler currently, and calling it 'postgame' or smth is preferred||

[opaque shard]

Ahh alr i see ty

[mental shuttle]

I like how its done as well

Theres only ONE other game (that i know of) that has done somethinf similar

Its such a cool fucking concept tho

[mellow sigil]

||if you don't get spoilered with it but noone gives a damn about spoilering it🥹 🥹 🥹||

[mental shuttle]

Dude

Like

Whe it was done in the game im talking about

Holy shit

I was gonna watch a video essay until they started talking about some shit and im like

WAIT WHAT

[hardy jolt]

awoooo :3

[tawdry osprey]

what game

[mental shuttle]

I wanna say but I dont yk?

Do you enjoy survival horror games such as resident evil and silent hill

[tawdry osprey]

i played silent hill 2 and thats it

[mental shuttle]

Sob

Oughh

Its ||signalis||
Genuinely one of my favourite games of all time

There now youre spoiled on peak

[tawdry osprey]

never heard about it...

[mental shuttle]

ITS SO GOOD RAHHHH

Yuri and eldtritch horror ❤️

Its genuinely
A spiritual successor to the silent hill games

[ashen badger]

||What's with Phantom and her ability to create banshees
at least i imagine that's her since they sport her general visage||

[ashen badger]

The remake?