Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[wide ledge]

i love reaper 😛

[opal totem]

Reaper's normal slash is up slash most of the time

[digital robin]

YOOOO! ||Groal|| defeated first try (2 nail upgrades). This strat is super good

[clever furnace]

What strat??

[wide ledge]

this is the best move ever

[mellow sigil]

is there any way to make the walkback to ||clover dancers|| a lil shorter

[digital robin]

||Get constantly eaten by Groal and try to out-heal him (you get 5 free hits for 2 mask damage if you don't fall into the worms, with a heal-based build with druid eye, +1 heal, 2nd sentinel free heal/ant mask is surprisingly easy). Also I just got a few nice combos with wanderer||

[digital haven]

its simple

did you beat it ywt

[wide ledge]

its still ass though

🙏

[opal totem]

Can you completely outheal it with ||druid's eyes?||

[digital haven]

nope

[mental shuttle]

Its easy its just not fun

[digital haven]

no benches in ||verd||

[digital haven]

i found it fun

[mental shuttle]

The move is cool yea

[mental shuttle]

What the fuck is wrong with you man

[wide ledge]

||why did they hide the second silk heart behind the unravelled||

[digital haven]

we have different tastes

[digital haven]

that would be the third one,/ i think

[mellow sigil]

||theres a tiny area under the arena that looks like the entrance to verd though cant you somehow spawn in it upon enter or something||

[mental shuttle]

This guy hates ||karmelita|| btw

[mellow sigil]

or is it just an exit

[digital haven]

most people do ||lace 2|| before it

[wide ledge]

yeah because nobody found it ever at all

[digital haven]

nop

every time you get into Vd you spawn at the very beginning

[digital haven]

ive tried sk ONCE

ill give her another chance once i get off forsaken

[mental shuttle]

OH MY GUF

OMG OMG OMG

[digital haven]

whar

[mental shuttle]

YOU CAN SVE THE PILGRIM FROM BONE BOTTOM

[digital haven]

which one? ||flick?||

[digital robin]

||Piby||

Yes, is super easy

[mental shuttle]

The one who gets smashed by ||skull tyrant||

[mellow sigil]

I like how Hornet passes out right behind ||Green Prince every time and he doesn't give a flying fuck||

[digital robin]

||just don't linger on act 1, he moves out if you enter act 2||

[mellow sigil]

he doesn't wants that spider here

[digital haven]

yo listen to this
ok bye peace

[digital robin]

||Are you going right or left side?||

[digital haven]

gp senile confirmed

[wide ledge]

gameplay senile

[mellow sigil]

uuuhhhhuuhu right???

[digital robin]

||The left has a breakable floor/roof to make 1 less parkour and if you do the arena you can go on a path with no hard enemies||

The right have a few enemy that throw projectiles and are a bit annoying

[digital haven]

||pale stag assest boss||

hollup teto joined me

[digital robin]

||Welcome back No Eyes||

[hardy jolt]

jjoininig too and gonna twotime all over the server 💥 💥 💥 💥 /silly

i had a stroke writing joining wtf

[digital haven]

hop on

[digital haven]

who was that i frorogor

[hardy jolt]

i cant

[digital haven]

oh nevermind i unforgor

[digital haven]

why?

you need to play at least two times per day

[hardy jolt]

busy tho

[mellow sigil]

wait Im stupid I meant left

oh my god

yeah I probably already unlocked the shortcut

[mental shuttle]

BW might be bad
But PD is worse

[opal totem]

No

[digital robin]

LOL ||Groal AND CHEF|| first try

[opal totem]

||Stilkins are much worse than mosquitoes||

[digital robin]

||Let's see if I also do Courier 1st try||

[opal totem]

Anyway ||coral tower and crust king destroyed by beast||

[mental shuttle]

||Duct suckers with the grabbing things||

[opal totem]

Wtf there was a bench there this whole time

[opal totem]

Still easier

[mental shuttle]

Nuh uh

[digital haven]

pd is worse because easier

[mellow sigil]

PD isnt easier

I struggled with it so much more than with BW

[opal totem]

Skill difference

[mellow sigil]

I'm pretty okay skill-wise though

PD is just overwhelming

[clever furnace]

What’s pd

[mellow sigil]

an awful place

[clever furnace]

Ooohhhh

[mellow sigil]

(||Putrified Ducts||)

[digital robin]

||PD enemies are hard, but you can ignore all of them (at most they annoy you the 1st time and when going to the lake) BW enemies love to spawn from out of nowhere to screw with you. Also Groal runback if you don't finish him quickly||

[mellow sigil]

you can just jump over BW enemies
I literally just ran on the runback, jumped like. Over a single green guy and didnt had any problems
in PD on the other hand I constantly run into those damn ||trap bugs|| and those fucking flies chase me all over the place

[opal totem]

You cannot jump over something that spawns under you

[mental shuttle]

PD enemies are NOT easy to ignore

[opal totem]

They're easier

[mental shuttle]

The mosquit

Do everything in their power
To stop you from platforming

[digital robin]

||Yes they are! By then you have Grapple and Wings. You can just ignore them (run away) and facetank/poggo over the big ones||

[mellow sigil]

what spawns under you in bw?????? they spawn in front of you, you hear them, and jump

[opal totem]

||Stilkins||

You try to go fast and they appear right from below you

My main issue with ||groal|| runback

Or area in general tbh

[mellow sigil]

they always make a warning noise and if you jump before they literally appear than you will avoid them

[opal totem]

Make those less annoying to deal with and I'll like the area

[atomic lintel]

i think its meant to be unlikable

[opal totem]

Well yeah

But I feel like it limits my options a bit too much

To effectively deal with them I basically have to equip skill or a tool that one shots them

[atomic lintel]

i always run past them

[opal totem]

It's only these guys, the rest of BW I'm fine with

[atomic lintel]

still annoying but much better

[quiet sentinel]

yeah the runback stinks

did you know some people never found the secret bench room to it either

imagine that

speaking of i practiced a bit in godhome today and figured out a nice strat for him

you grapple above to close distance and pogo a few times and grapple away, rinse and repeat

[opal totem]

My favorite silksong boss

John godhome

[quiet sentinel]

you dont really wanna stay above him too long cause his movement is so finicky

especially when he dives or when he just floats to the roof

[quiet sentinel]

it means what it means they are literally impossible to dodge because they just spawn on you when youre running

cause they try to preemptively be in front of you but don't account for running

so by the time they appear youre already where they would be so its an almost unavoidable hit

and noone wants to be walking their way on a runback

[mental shuttle]

HOW DP YOU FIGHT THE SUCK ATTACK

On one of the small platforms

[quiet sentinel]

the magical grapple tool

[mental shuttle]

The magical
Wator

[quiet sentinel]

just jump and grapple when you peak the jump

add a dash if necessary

i fought the dude flawlessly like 4 times today

its not as bad as you think

[mental shuttle]

Im not going near him
At all
Because
This game has some serious rubberbanding issues

[quiet sentinel]

you shouldnt ever be down on those platforms anyways

always try to stay on the upper ones

[mental shuttle]

ESPECIALLY WITH LACE OMG

[mental shuttle]

Me when hes on the platform and I have to use them to get actoss

Away from thw fatty

Idk how it did it 2 attempts the first time

[mellow sigil]

this rarely happened to me on the runback

[quiet sentinel]

me when the game has rng

!

rarely implies it did happen

so

[quiet sentinel]

GRAPPLE THE THWOMP

i cannot stress enough ppl need to start using grapple as a gap or distance maker in battles

its so peak

[mental shuttle]

I hate how BW has random spawns

[mental shuttle]

I do this but I forget at times

[quiet sentinel]

train

get it into your muscle memory

i promise itll be peak

its peam

[mellow sigil]

Did Hornet ||just randomly killed a man ||

[opal totem]

The problem is greed

[quiet sentinel]

hornet suffering from period cramps

[opal totem]

Grapple hit = one less potential silk

[quiet sentinel]

get outta that mindset

[mellow sigil]

I get that its best for ||him and he's finally with his lover but imagine you dreamt something about a guy who stood beside you and than killed him while sleepwalking||

[quiet sentinel]

youll always have silk for something

[mental shuttle]

Grapple gives your silk back if you hit an enemy

[opaque shard]

do bugs even have periods 🤔

[mental shuttle]

Im evil

[quiet sentinel]

dont bounce on the last thwomp you dumb bitch @lyn

[mental shuttle]

Evil Mold Witch

[mental shuttle]

What did she do 💔

[mellow sigil]

how could I complain about anything in this game when ||coral tower|| exists

[mental shuttle]

Its not that bad

Its just colosseum

[mellow sigil]

EVERY TIME I COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING HERE SOMEONE SAYS THAT

[mellow sigil]

explode

[mental shuttle]

Its literally just easier colosseum 😭

[opaque shard]

Its not as bad as BW

[mellow sigil]

bilewater isnt that bad

[opaque shard]

And pre nerf worms

[opaque shard]

Bw enemies rather

[opal totem]

I think people who don't like arenas should explode

I like them

[mellow sigil]

I struggled with colosseum a lot though when I went through hk

[mellow sigil]

I think you should explode

[opaque shard]

Skill issue

[mental shuttle]

The only ones I dislike are ||groal and the forum||
Even then ||the forum|| is fun with ||shakra||

[opal totem]

I like ||forum||

[mellow sigil]

you can fight on the|| forum with Shakra????||

[opal totem]

Just don't do it too early and it's fun

[mental shuttle]

Do her quest
Then duel her outside ||bellhart||

[mellow sigil]

too late

[mental shuttle]

Its really hard tho

[opal totem]

Getting ||Garmond|| is much easier

[mental shuttle]

This fucking hitbox

[mellow sigil]

maybe if Ill make another playthrough

[opaque shard]

Wait I think i had a shakra drawing-

[mental shuttle]

But he isnt as useful

[opal totem]

He tries his best

[opaque shard]

Rate my art 🔥

[mental shuttle]

WHY ARE HORNETS LEGS LIKE THAT

[opaque shard]

Yes

[mellow sigil]

nakey

[opaque shard]

Cuz shes a spooder

[mental shuttle]

Thats not how they work

[opaque shard]

Shhhhhh I just like the way they look shhhhhhh

[mental shuttle]

Shes also part wyrm are yiu gonna make her long and wriggly

[mellow sigil]

wait imagine ||hornet with additional arms gameplay||
it should affect gameplay

[mental shuttle]

Triple hit needle

[opaque shard]

Yes gonna make her look like a bobbit worm 🔥

[mellow sigil]

she can draw her however!!!! I love head canons and such

[mental shuttle]

Did we ever get closure on what the battle of the blackwyrm was

[mellow sigil]

Im gonna draw Hornet with ||4 arms||by default because I want to AND YOURE NOT GONNA STOP ME

[opaque shard]

Rate my hornet ✨

[mellow sigil]

wow shes beautiful

very lore accurate

[opaque shard]

Ikr

[mental shuttle]

I hate these fuckers in another crabs treasure

[opaque shard]

Don diss the bobbit wormys

[mental shuttle]

Not the real ones

[opaque shard]

Time to draw

[mellow sigil]

wait are they sea worms or regular worms:0

[opaque shard]

sea worms

[mellow sigil]

yaayyy!!!

[opaque shard]

They grow up to 3m long

[mellow sigil]

wyrm irl ?!???!??!!?

HOLLOW KNIGHT SILKSONG IS REAL

[mental shuttle]

Me when bugs are real

💔

[opaque shard]

Fr

[mellow sigil]

bugs arent real

liar

[mental shuttle]

FUCK

[opaque shard]

Biblically accurate hornet

[mellow sigil]

cheering

[hardy jolt]

[opaque shard]

this is the ideal female body

[mental shuttle]

As a female
Goals fr

[opaque shard]

Frfr

[mental shuttle]

Unrealistic body standards smh

[opaque shard]

Nuhuh you just gotta git gud

[mental shuttle]

Peak female form obv

[opaque shard]

Tall big woman awooooga

[opaque shard]

Hello mlady perhaps you would like some company?

[mental shuttle]

Vile

[opaque shard]

I aint called a menace for nuthing

[mellow sigil]

peak form (period)

[mental shuttle]

Peak nonbinary form

[opaque shard]

Frfr

[mental shuttle]

Peak male form is ||trobbio|| obviously

[opal totem]

Sherma in question

[mental shuttle]

Peak agender form
Pure vessel

[mellow sigil]

hes a kid its not his final form

[opaque shard]

What about grimm

[mental shuttle]

Either one

[opal totem]

Proof?

[opaque shard]

he sounds like a 8yo girl

[mellow sigil]

the million times ||Hornet calls him little?||

[quiet sentinel]

dlc will include sherma puberty voice cracks

[opal totem]

Hornet is just drawfphobic

[quiet sentinel]

dwarf*

[opal totem]

Drawf*

[mental shuttle]

Yes but the only person she calls child is ||lace||

[opaque shard]

||Sherma|| is actually a higher beign and when he enters his final form in the dlc he will took over the world

[mental shuttle]

God of music and prayer

[opal totem]

||Lace|| is that 100 years old child from anime

[mellow sigil]

well and ||Lace isnt an actual child
like shes not literally a child so||

[mental shuttle]

Literally stated
||child in mind and body||

[mellow sigil]

Hornet calls ||people she disrespects children||

because children are awful!

[mental shuttle]

By John lore

[opal totem]

What does John lore say about ass jim's cellar

[mellow sigil]

Im ps that just means that shes very emotionally immature
because ||Caretaker|| also says that she was around longer than anyone else in citadel

[opaque shard]

We need mossbag to make an 6 hour long video to clarify that issue

[mental shuttle]

Who is ass Jim 💔

[opal totem]

I think she's just a bitch

[opal totem]

||Disgraced chef Lugoli||

[mental shuttle]

Jim

[opal totem]

Ass Jim

[opaque shard]

I call em fatass chef

[quiet sentinel]

||garmond|| is my favorite femboy

[mental shuttle]

???? 😭

[mellow sigil]

true

[opal totem]

Then mine is Dumbledore

[mental shuttle]

Dumpeldorf

[mellow sigil]

||the gourmand thing that we do food quest for|| is my favourite femboy

[opal totem]

Unrealistic body standards smh

[opaque shard]

They have a master x femboy relationship

[mental shuttle]

AINT NO WAY THIS IS WHAT I COME BACK TO

[opal totem]

Literally ||Hornet and Styx||

[opaque shard]

But gay frfr

[mellow sigil]

this thread scares me

[opal totem]

No she's homophobic

[opal totem]

Ture

[mellow sigil]

real she killed a gay guy

[opaque shard]

Multiple gay guys

[opal totem]

Good tbh

[hardy jolt]

wtf,,

[mental shuttle]

||Styx and huntress|| would be perfect ❤️

[opal totem]

Finally getting some proper man failure representation in media

So tired of happy endings, I want to see someone successfully self destruct for once

[mellow sigil]

Im pretty sure most mlm media is extremely depressing already

or problematic

[opal totem]

Who's mlm

[opaque shard]

Me when HB:

[opal totem]

You mean yumama

[mental shuttle]

Man loving man

[mellow sigil]

YOMAMA

[mental shuttle]

these people

[hardy jolt]

truee...

kissing boys..

[mental shuttle]

Kissing boys as a girl

Muehehehehe

[mellow sigil]

why are so many gay couples in HollowKnight&Skong are either partially dead or dead

[mental shuttle]

You literally kill one

[hardy jolt]

atleast you wont be dead in a hollow knight game

[mental shuttle]

Ill be part of some plan to save the kingdom 💔

[mellow sigil]

what an amazing game

[opaque shard]

A game where you kill gays truley revolutionary 🔥

[mental shuttle]

Homophobia
In my woke game????

[opaque shard]

Thats why the hallownest fell cuz it was homophobic

[hardy jolt]

true

[misty isle]

To be fair quite a lot of NPCs die in general

[mental shuttle]

Im the traitor mantises and im homophobic

[misty isle]

A true way to see how much Dark Souls inspired a game is, is by checking how many NPCs die later on in the story after you get attached to them

[quiet sentinel]

grimm is a boykisser

[mental shuttle]

They really leaned into the convoluted souls type quests in this one

[misty isle]

In Hollow Knight you have Myla, Seer, Quirrel, Grimm, and Cloth die, in Silksong ||Almost entire Bone Bottom, all snail shamans, the few pilgrims that are with you before Last Judge, Green Prince, Twelfth Architect, Seth (kinda), and almost Second Sentiel too||

[hardy jolt]

[misty isle]

Oh and also ||Garmond||

[opal totem]

Where do I find more ||second sentinel|| story

I found one obscure encounter in act 3 and I feel like there's more

[misty isle]

||looking back at it, all of these deaths happened in act 3 lmao (except the "almost second sentiel" and Last Judge ones)||

[opal totem]

||Little pilgrim|| death is act 1 I think

No one knows his name still

[quiet sentinel]

isnt it act 2

actually i have no idea

i dont remember what is required for them

might be just claws

[hardy jolt]

ya i think its act 1

[quiet sentinel]

:3

[hardy jolt]

:3

[quiet sentinel]

i sat down to eat on my break and burnt my paw making food

i cannot go a day at work without doing something dumb

[hardy jolt]

aw

[quiet sentinel]

[glad stratus]

I beat ||trobbio|| it wasn't all that hard really

||Claw mirror|| is ass tho

[hardy jolt]

the true reward was the experience

||TROBBIOOO||

[glad stratus]

||TROBBIOOOO||

[mental shuttle]

You can save ||the bone bottom pilgrim|| :3

Anyone got any advice on GMS hitless

[glad stratus]

Don't get hit

[mental shuttle]

Genius

[mellow sigil]

what else can you do though other than perfectly learn the attacks

to no hit it

[misty isle]

How

[mental shuttle]

Not sure
I managed to get him to move away when ST came around

[mental shuttle]

Technically not hitless but like

I basically have to

[mellow sigil]

you're doing ||cursed||??:0

[mental shuttle]

Yea

[opal totem]

I think you need to delay completing ||skull tyrant|| quest until act 2

Or whenever the guy moves

[mental shuttle]

I didnt

[opal totem]

Cheater

[mental shuttle]

????

He moved and like

Idk????

Gms with her fucking slash across the floor is so inconsistent

[hardy jolt]

[mental shuttle]

The sweep she does

[hardy jolt]

i recommend jumping and moving away the direction she does it once you see the winduo

[mental shuttle]

Nike logo curve:

[hardy jolt]

ya it can hit you a bit if ur very close to her

[quiet sentinel]

wryff

[hardy jolt]

thats why you jump

[quiet sentinel]

the way i do it is just sit in a corner like a little baby

[hardy jolt]

wruff

[quiet sentinel]

i cower and hide

where she starts

and it hasn't failed me :3

[quiet sentinel]

[hardy jolt]

[mental shuttle]

The curse

[hardy jolt]

wroooff

[mental shuttle]

Fucking

[quiet sentinel]

awwww

[mental shuttle]

Poopy ass wnding

[quiet sentinel]

[mental shuttle]

Erm erm erm

Kills you

[mellow sigil]

you can completely avoid it by standing in a corner on the opposite side of where the slash ends

[glad stratus]

I will get ||conductors melody|| done.

[mental shuttle]

Puppy gang

[mellow sigil]

though its a pretty,,,, specific circumstance

[hardy jolt]

gl

[mental shuttle]

Why team cherry

Whyyyy

Why must you do this

This awful fucking achievement

[hardy jolt]

you could also try getting some more masks before doing it

[mental shuttle]

Im on 8

[hardy jolt]

oh

🥹

[quiet sentinel]

even masks are such a troll in the game tbh x3

[mental shuttle]

3-4 hits till death

[opal totem]

I just want 7 masks in act 1

[quiet sentinel]

i went from 5 masks to 6 masks, now the boss will kill me from 3 hits to 3 hits

[opal totem]

One extra makes almost no difference

[mental shuttle]

Fucks sake

Ive never gotten hit by th 3 mask attack until now 💔

[hardy jolt]

at the very least it helps with the enemies that deal 1 dmg and you can take 1 extra hit after a heal

[quiet sentinel]

yah :3

[opal totem]

How many 3 mask attacks are there anyway

I can think of 3

[hardy jolt]

whats the third

[mental shuttle]

Theres 3

[misty isle]

I know like, two

[mental shuttle]

I only know gms and ll

[glad stratus]

I go the the part with the 2 ||choir clappers|| and died.. we're making progress

[misty isle]

And the grab attacks can technically deal as many as you want

[mental shuttle]

Hey want some help

[glad stratus]

Sure why not

[opal totem]

||Last judge final explosion||

[mental shuttle]

You can get an assist

[glad stratus]

Where?

[misty isle]

Thats evil

[mental shuttle]

NO FUCKING WAY LMFAOOOOO

[hardy jolt]

[opal totem]

I died to it twice

[mental shuttle]

||have you done shakras quest||

[misty isle]

I died to it once. Then switched to Hunter crest and melted it in 30 secs

[glad stratus]

I saw those partical effects and booked it to the other side of the arena

[glad stratus]

No

[hardy jolt]

Same

[mental shuttle]

Having to upslash with the worst upslash in the game 💔

[opal totem]

That's reaper

[mental shuttle]

Get all the maps and buy everything from her

Dont worry about ones you cant get from her it doesnt count

[native turret]

you just need all maps

[mental shuttle]

Oh okay

[opal totem]

False I think

[native turret]

I didnt get to buy most of the pins in my playthrough

[mental shuttle]

I buy pins

[opal totem]

In my current playthrough the quest didn't trigger until I explored further into BW

[hardy jolt]

i buy pins but dont use them

[mental shuttle]

Well yeah you also need acess to the room

[opal totem]

But why

Other quests just guide you into it

[native turret]

idk there;s a good amount of quests that require you to have explored the area already

I can remember only one that didnt

[mental shuttle]

Its the same with ||second sentinel||

[opal totem]

I can think of at least 3 that lead you into the area whether it's explored or not

[native turret]

yea I dotn remember most of the quests

[mental shuttle]

Anyone got advice for ||curse gms||

Sob

Its so hard 💔

[native turret]

I think the quests that specifically say find x in [insert region] require you to have explored said region

[hardy jolt]

what tools are you using

[quiet sentinel]

focus on pins, you can knock away the spikes that come up, take the fight slowly, gms is very predictable and dodgeable

you dont have to rush anything

[mental shuttle]

||Im cursed||

[quiet sentinel]

treat it like a hitless

[hardy jolt]

oh right-

[quiet sentinel]

stay in 1 spot and try not to chase her to overwhelm yourself

the whole fight is so much easier if you just dial yourself back and take it chill

her attacks are super slow when you realize this

[opal totem]

I wish she was harder

[quiet sentinel]

eh

it feels fair that its on par with hk difficulty

[native turret]

its the same thing with Hollow Knight

[quiet sentinel]

yea

you could argue for silksong it could've been different but thematically its nice

[hardy jolt]

i think it'd be cool if it was harder than the hk cus you dont have to fight it every time you wanna do radiance

[opal totem]

It works for hk because it's just a vessel, here you fight ||an equivalent of radiance||

Poor power scaling

[mental shuttle]

Dude the penultimate boss is harder than the final boss
This is so blasphemous core

[native turret]

neither Radiance or ||Lost Lace|| (endgame spoilers) are really super difficult either, so feels fair

[opal totem]

LL is difficult imo

[quiet sentinel]

gms is old and tired

[mental shuttle]

Im talking about the first ending oal

[native turret]

literally a grandma

[mental shuttle]

Pal

[quiet sentinel]

theyve been capturing ||weavers for god knows how long||

she grandma

[mental shuttle]

Old far

[quiet sentinel]

so yea shes gonna be slow

[mental shuttle]

Fart

[native turret]

literally beating up old people

[opal totem]

Are we even sure it was her ordering capturing weavers

And not ||conductors||

[quiet sentinel]

wdym

[mental shuttle]

SHE ALWAYS PULLS THE SWEEP IN A PLACE WHERE I CANT FMDODGE

IEVEKESEIVW

[native turret]

||the civilisation living in the Citadel has used silk for ages but we learn about weaver capturing only when reaching the Cradle||

I think, right?

[quiet sentinel]

no you learn it from the very start of the game

[native turret]

or well it's more in detail there

I mean like oh man Idk how to word this

[quiet sentinel]

if you also pay attention to lore tablets in nests as well

its been happening for a long time

[native turret]

the records of it straight up are in the part that's overtaken by GMS

oh true

well I dont really know what are the origins of GMS

[mental shuttle]

OFFSCREEN ATTACKS HDKEWWWHRGRKSPAHE

[quiet sentinel]

noone does i think

[native turret]

like did bro wander here and was like oh man so much silk is here already

[quiet sentinel]

theres barely any mention of her apart from subtle references by her children

[native turret]

true

[quiet sentinel]

like the kingdom isnt even aware of what "the haunting" is

they think its punishment for sin ect ect

[opal totem]

There are still a bunch of things I don't know the clear answers for, like
||How much control gms has over haunting||
||Who exactly ordered bringing weavers back and for what reason||
||To what extent the citadel is responsible for downfall of the kingdom ||

[native turret]

so bro might have been there since liek forever just growing stronger I guess

[glad stratus]

I hate this so much when will this end

[quiet sentinel]

its safe to say gms has full control

but the order idk

there is no proof

so its up to interpretation

maybe the conductors needed more silk for their experiments and lifelines

[native turret]

yea ||the silk lets go the moment she's gone||

[quiet sentinel]

so they placed an order to capture them

[opal totem]

I only recently found out from someone else's lore analysis that ||gms was put to sleep by weavers' song and then they passed that responsibility to regular bugs||

I sort of just blamed everything on gms before that

[quiet sentinel]

widow confirms that it uses weaver magic

[native turret]

I wonder if we'll get more info in the possibly upcoming DLC updates

[opal totem]

Oh yeah, ||isn't what widow is doing basically a smaller scale equivalent of gms being put to sleep||

[quiet sentinel]

yep

[digital robin]

Time to try THAT BOSSFIGHT

[native turret]

I never really understood what she's doing

[opal totem]

I guess I underestimated the importance of song in silksong

[native turret]

it does ||stop enemies from attacking|| for a bit

[opal totem]

Moosbag where are you when you're needed

[native turret]

I wonder if it forces bugs to sing or if they join in cuz they want to

[mental shuttle]

Im losing it

[mental shuttle]

Im doing this rn

[opal totem]

Time to finish beast only run

[hardy jolt]

is the crest fun?

[mental shuttle]

I thought it was implied ||everypne was using silk to extend their lives then gms showed up and took control of that||

[opal totem]

After that I want to do a tierlist what bosses it's good/bad against

It will not be good against final boss

Good thing I have 5 hours left

[hardy jolt]

is it good overall

[opal totem]

It's balanced I'd say

It has a niche

Also it might be my favorite crest for platforming

Few specific sections aside

[native turret]

we dont know when gms showed up is the thing

could have been that she didnt show up but grew strong enough

[opal totem]

There was no silk before her I think

[mental shuttle]

I swear there was something

I forgot where it was

Fuck

There was silk 100% before her

[native turret]

||the silk was there before everyone started being mind controlled in some way||

but we do not know how long she's been here

at least I have not heard a single thing about the gms timeline

[opal totem]

||First she made weavers, then some more children, then weavers put her to sleep, left pharloom and passed the responsibility of keeping gms asleep to the regular bugs who built citadel around it, then they used gms's silk for their nasty experiments to the point that most bugs in pharloom had some silk in them, that's why it's so easy for haunting to take control over them||

I think

Still don't know why ||haunting|| happened exactly

[mental shuttle]

I thought ||gms was the cause of the haunting||

[opal totem]

||Lace might be responsible for it? It's very convenient that citadel goes live only after she confronts hornet||

[opal totem]

Yeah but how much control does she have

||She's kinda half asleep still I think||

[digital robin]

||BlueSR is doing a True ending Speedrun "learning" stream (aparently nobody finished one yet?)||

[native turret]

could be ||her children in general helped her "break free"||

[digital robin]

I can't wait for the game to be beatable in like 6h LOL

[mental shuttle]

The game is beatable in 1 💔

[digital robin]

That is the ending. Where you do the instead of fixing everything

Totally different thing

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[mental shuttle]

Ok i give up curse

[opal totem]

No

[mental shuttle]

This shit so ass

[hardy jolt]

i think its possible tbh

[opal totem]

It's easy just do it

[mental shuttle]

Its not fun

I CANT GET TO PHASE 2 GANG

ALL MY SKILL LEAVES MY BODY WHEN I TOUCH MY XBOX

Its actually insane

[opal totem]

Should've been pc gamer

[mental shuttle]

Ill do another attempt on my pc

Another time

Ill get it first try 💔

[digital robin]

I unlocked ||ending 2 (silk and soul quest done)|| in like 15h (after collecting almost all items that give % in act 1 and 2)

[mental shuttle]

Im just playing on my xbox for free gamerscore lmaooo

Wish I could copy my save into a different file

[hardy jolt]

where does one get silksong mods from

[mental shuttle]

I think ppl are using nexus

[hardy jolt]

ty

insane

yall do not need this many support mods 🥀

[digital robin]

Double rosaries MAYBE (not really, if you don't buy trash items you have more than enougt)

[mental shuttle]

Me when I dont wanna play the game

[hardy jolt]

terraria qol ass gameplay

[digital robin]

I just finished my act 2 farming marathon (250 rosaries/cycle or 500 is not a big difference)

[glad stratus]

Oh my god bro PLEASE

MAKE THIS END

[mental shuttle]

Dude its not even that hard to grind for rosaries either

[digital robin]

Where are you stuck today?

[digital robin]

Exactly, it's not hard. Is just time consuming

[digital robin]

the other are just "I want easy mode, pls"

[hardy jolt]

[digital robin]

and affect the actual game

[mental shuttle]

Greymoor music makes my brain instantly think of this song
Dont ask why https://youtu.be/skKP6QwOXYA?si=OJk6EDpG2EyszVx3

[mental shuttle]

All enemies drop beads is fair enough icl

[digital robin]

Bonfire (Bench) Teleport was a staple of HK. I love to use it for Randomizers to not lose time

||the bellbeast song should have been an act 2 mission||

[hardy jolt]

ya fair bench warp is pretty good

[mental shuttle]

Some areas dont have rosary droppers

[mental shuttle]

TRUE

[carmine crypt]

i hate how overly punishing ||lost lace is||

[hardy jolt]

its just the amount of qol mods that is insane to me

[carmine crypt]

she uses that stupid parry every time i try hitting her

[mental shuttle]

How many masks do you have

[carmine crypt]

9

[opal totem]

Beast is ass at final boss confirmed

[mental shuttle]

Literally piss easy to avoid

[digital robin]

||It's Lace 3, you should know by now all their melee attacks and where to squeeze a bit of damage||

[opal totem]

Took me like 6 tries

[mental shuttle]

If you activate her parry just jump 💔

[carmine crypt]

the point is i hardly get damage not that the counter part does damage

[digital robin]

Parry it back XD

[mental shuttle]

You can get easy damage from it

[hardy jolt]

LIKE WDYM "ACHIEVEABLE LEVELS" IT CANT BE THAT HARD

[mental shuttle]

Its predictable where she will be

[mental shuttle]

Game journalist core

[hardy jolt]

REAL

[digital robin]

||also the parry is made to punish slow players or people that spam nail with wanderer, you can jump and dash away to hit her in return if you predict it or just parry it back (2/4 silk for a double mask attack + damage it back is good)||

[digital robin]

||Did you do the Memento?||

[hardy jolt]

yes

[digital robin]

You agree, ||Pail oil is easy with reaper and shaman?||

[hardy jolt]

theres a customknight mod :D

[opal totem]

Pail ole

[hardy jolt]

ya ofc

[digital robin]

Nice

[mental shuttle]

You copied that off me wtf

[opal totem]

I still prefer ||longclaw hunter|| for juggle

[opal totem]

Where copyright

[mental shuttle]

Man

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

Anyway

[hardy jolt]

is that any different from ||shaman?||

[hardy jolt]

AWW

[opal totem]

How do we feel about silksong having ||racing|| minigame but no ||fishing|| minigame

[opal totem]

Yeah, a bit more responsive due to slash being instant

[mental shuttle]

Team cherry will explod

[hardy jolt]

oh ya its a bit faster true..

[hardy jolt]

||pale lake fishing in dlc when||

[opal totem]

Real

Actually

[mental shuttle]

OH THATS AWESOME

||THE SILKEATER ANIMATION CHANGES WHEN YOURE CURSED||

[opal totem]

||There's that other flea guy who becomes inaccessible once you start the festival||

||I think he deserves fishing minigame||

[mental shuttle]

The guy from bellhart

[opal totem]

I did the thing

[hardy jolt]

woah

[opal totem]

What do now

[hardy jolt]

did you record it? iw annna seee

[hardy jolt]

steel soul!!!!!

[carmine crypt]

holy shit dude finally

this took hours

[opal totem]

Tbh I feel like attempting steel soul rather than 5h speedrun

[carmine crypt]

hunter crest is the way to go

[opal totem]

Would be sad if I died to the second boss

[carmine crypt]

beat the game while being ||cursed|| on steel soul in under an hour

[hardy jolt]

Omg true

[digital robin]

|| https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/8136/images/210/210-1757905170-910192807.png ||

Finally, 3D Silksong

[hardy jolt]

hornet but silksong drank too much ||flea brew||

[carmine crypt]

OH MY GOD THRID PHASE WHYYYY

WHYYYYYY

[hardy jolt]

wait

thats

[digital robin]

You were having problems in ||Phase 2||?

[mental shuttle]

Skill issue

[digital robin]

Be nice, don't say that

[mental shuttle]

LL Is super fun imo

[tawdry osprey]

i actually used all of them for my 100%

[opal totem]

Yeah I'm starting to have fun

[carmine crypt]

i fucking hate this boss

[hardy jolt]

[opal totem]

If only I was allowed to use a better crest

[carmine crypt]

no other boss ive ever had to fight in any game

has been this hard

[tawdry osprey]

WAIT RELAX

[hardy jolt]

[digital robin]

What are you using?

[opal totem]

Beast

[mental shuttle]

Id say PV is harder than LL

[digital robin]

Are you starting to understand Beast like some say?

[carmine crypt]

i would rather have to fight that one super buffed version of ||pure vessel|| than this

[digital robin]

Poggo to get iframes and just tank damage like there is not tomorrow?

[hardy jolt]

bruh lemme make a bad password nobody is trying to get into my nexus account

[opal totem]

I think I understand that it's good for some situations and not good for others

Final boss is not a good situation

I almost like pogo, the only annoying thing about it is iframed kicking in a bit too late

[digital robin]

I don't know, Poggo to get closer if you know the distance it may be decent

[hardy jolt]

wonder what the pv of silksong is gonna look like

[tawdry osprey]

just add you phone password with numbers at the end, works every time

[digital robin]

||also she likes to stay still in a few Phase 2+ attacks so you should be able to go berserker there||

[mental shuttle]

Awful

Either best boss in the game or abysmal dogshit no in between

[carmine crypt]

pv is so easy once you learn it, and its also easy to learn

took me like 5 attempts

the first time i fought it

[digital robin]

PV is easy, the only dangerous attack is the spear throw since it's a bit annoying to dodge without shadecloack

Is just one of those "don't hit him too much or you will get parried"

[mental shuttle]

The only attack I cant consistently dodge is the void tendrils

[carmine crypt]

LL is stupid

[mental shuttle]

Do not diss lucas lore

[carmine crypt]

stupid as an idea and as a boss

[digital robin]

||LL it's kinda of that. A Duel with a knight at full power. They even share the tendrill, spears from bellow and AoE circles attacks||

[opal totem]

Time for ||seth and nyleth|| as beast

I have a bad feeling about both

[hardy jolt]

i mean like
pv is dlc stuff and much harder than any basegame stuff

[digital robin]

Yea, sure

[carmine crypt]

i dodge and i get punished

[digital robin]

||but you can't deny that they are quite similar in a few ways. PV would probably just be an even stronger LL||

[hardy jolt]

ya

||both void after all ||

[opal totem]

I just realized I can use ||gramophone at my bellhome||

[digital robin]

I love how void gets censored from time to time due to RW stuff

amazing filter

[hardy jolt]

[opal totem]

I forgot this server is about rw

[mental shuttle]

Voidam

Dl

Jeve

Void fart

[hardy jolt]

cool silksong mods im going to check out

[mental shuttle]

Im literally the most intelligent person here

[carmine crypt]

lowk i think zote would onetap ||lost lace|| and shouldve been the one we got a spinoff game of

cause like hornet sucks

zote is peam

and doesnt take 2 damage from grazing a cog

[mental shuttle]

I remember mentions of a zonte charm that makes you die in one hit

[mental shuttle]

She doesnt

[carmine crypt]

they changed the dmg on that?

[mental shuttle]

Yea

[carmine crypt]

hmmm

[digital robin]

There is a HK mod that makes you and enemies die in 1 hit

[carmine crypt]

still takes 2 damage from touching a big fly even when its not ramming into her so

skill issue on hornets part

[digital robin]

that would be funny

[carmine crypt]

lowk

like zote could never

[mental shuttle]

I still think double contact damage is the stupidest thing in this game

[carmine crypt]

word

[mental shuttle]

Fuck
Now im being forced to do BW

[carmine crypt]

i wonder how team cherry was feeling designing this boss

[quiet sentinel]

get godhome mod :3

[hardy jolt]

oo ill check that out

[quiet sentinel]

[hardy jolt]

also i jusst learned that the echoes of pharloom mod uses ai for the audio enhancements thought it was made normally

[quiet sentinel]

smellyy

[carmine crypt]

okay so like the sprite for the void tendrils was gone and i still took the damage

from the attack

that i got hit by apparentally????

air lowk kinda toxic ig

[digital robin]

It depend what type of AI it uses

if it's just to do on the spot "there is an enemy aproaching, increase decibels on the left side" that is normal

[hardy jolt]

[digital robin]

another thing is just remixing sounds or creating music out of thin air

(current Gen AI)

[hardy jolt]

it says this,,

[mental shuttle]

Dude peiple go crazy over ai
Its like when transphpbes hear the word pronouns

[carmine crypt]

ykw pharloom can solve its own problems im going back to hollownest😭

[hardy jolt]

that should be an ending tbh

[opaque shard]

Steel soul question: ||does eating the silk eaters do anything?||

[carmine crypt]

like fuck yall beat ||lost lace|| yoself

[mental shuttle]

You just fucking leave through BS or ||the surface||

[hardy jolt]

yea

[tawdry osprey]

that would be so funny

we need that

[mental shuttle]

Just because it uses the same word doesnt mean that its the thing you hate

[tawdry osprey]

its like "fuck this, im out"

[digital robin]

I love that right-wing weirdo that had a meltdown over PRONOUNS. Because one of the first phrases that it says is "Gender ambiguity (not knowing gender)". BRO THAT IS WHAT PRONOUNS ARE FOR

[opaque shard]

||hornet goes back to hallownest, she get captured again and the game restarts||

[serene oxide]

i didn't know ||Sinner's Road connects to The Mist||

hi moldy witchy

[mental shuttle]

Anti pronouns mfs when I use the word "I"

Or me

[carmine crypt]

THERES 4

[digital robin]

or you

[mental shuttle]

Hi darc

[carmine crypt]

THERES FOUR FUCKING PHASES FOR THIS

[serene oxide]

four of who

[mental shuttle]

Anti ai mfs
When they play a video game

[carmine crypt]

WHY IS THIS IN THE GAME

[serene oxide]

where are you

[opaque shard]

Anti ai mfs when AM

[carmine crypt]

||lost lace||

[serene oxide]

well they love games

duh

you get to kill the AIs

[opaque shard]

Just ||life blood overdose duh||

[serene oxide]

oh oke

[mental shuttle]

Like cro

[serene oxide]

just don't get hit

[mental shuttle]

Ai ≠ generative ai 💔

[digital robin]

just spam tools with Architect, while on the verge of overdosing

[carmine crypt]

pretty much the only advice ive been getting for this

[opaque shard]

I just ate some kallamari and this shit is banging frfr 🔥

[carmine crypt]

also im not ||life blood overdosing|| cause i dont think ||architect|| is that good

[mental shuttle]

Commando
Buddy
You have a skill issue

[opaque shard]

Git gut

[mental shuttle]

As hornet herself says

[quiet sentinel]

im an ai

[mental shuttle]

WHAT

[serene oxide]

listening to Zote's precepts usually gets me through every fight

[digital robin]

||You can learn LL until you can get 8 hits between getting hurt twice (and heal with the +1 trinket). Also Archi is super good for Ground attacks due to range (getting 1 hit no matter what)||

[carmine crypt]

hornet should listen to that advice and stop taking 2 damage from literally everything

not about the boss

[opaque shard]

Chad knight vs virgin hornet fr

[mental shuttle]

Hunter crest is goated for
Everything

[digital robin]

Hunter is decent, if you poggo correctly (one of the worst poggos hitboxes)

[mental shuttle]

The pogo is so fun when you get it down right

[opaque shard]

I always use ||reapers||

[mental shuttle]

It can be used as both a dodging tool and a damage tool

[gleaming badger]

i do have a genuine questio nof something i probably missed but ||can eva evolve other crests, or is it just locked to the hunter crest? i assumed its just hunter because it's hornets own skill set but i saw smth that made me question that|| (sort of late game spoilers)

[digital robin]

||and to parry certain attack to refresh wings||

[mental shuttle]

No

[opaque shard]

Nah just hunters

[gleaming badger]

gotcha...

[mental shuttle]

What made you think

[carmine crypt]

someone should mod it

and make more ||evo crests||

[hardy jolt]

true i need my ||reaper crest to give a full notch of silk per orb reaper too weak fr||

/silly

[gleaming badger]

i started thinking when i was 4 /silly

[mental shuttle]

At least make it 2 orbs per silk like ||druids eye||

[digital robin]

||Only Hunter and Cursed evolve||

[hardy jolt]

whu

[mental shuttle]

Are we even counting ||cursed|| 💔

[digital robin]

Yes

[carmine crypt]

||lost lace|| having 4 phases

is so stupid

[digital robin]

[mental shuttle]

Dude
Buddy
Pal
Bucko
Ur just bad

[carmine crypt]

the literal only boss ive had this much trouble on

[mental shuttle]

Idk how you havent learnt her moveset already

You fought her twice already

[mental shuttle]

ITS THE FINAL BOSS GANG
WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING

[carmine crypt]

ABS RAD WASNT THIS HARD

[mental shuttle]

Moss mother????

[opal totem]

Yumama

[gleaming badger]

only two bosses took me more than 3 hours

[carmine crypt]

like genuinely just give me any radiance instead of this

[gleaming badger]

||beastfly rematch|| and ||lost lace||

[mental shuttle]

LL took me an hour and a half

[digital robin]

It's far worse since you have an entire Pantheon

[mental shuttle]

L·L

[mental shuttle]

Thats just not even fun

At least LL is fun

💔

[carmine crypt]

you might not like what i have to say abt this

this is

stupid

and im not having fun in the slightest

when does this end

[opal totem]

First tried ||tormented trobbio||, can't tell if it's because I got gud or the beast carry

[opaque shard]

Spoiler for the true ending
(Virgin hornet vs chad knight)

[opal totem]

Is it just me or ||beast bind and flea brew don't stack attack speed||

[quiet sentinel]

wruff

idk beast could give you infinite damage and id never know

cause ive never used beast 😭

[opal totem]

At least it still stacks with ||flint|| I think

I think

[carmine crypt]

IS SHE DEAD?

THERES NOT A FIFTH PHASE RIGHT

[opal totem]

There isn't even fourth phase

[hardy jolt]

[carmine crypt]

kind of is though

when she screams and starts doing that circle attack

[opal totem]

Oh right

[carmine crypt]

||take?||

can i leave her here instead?

[hardy jolt]

so evil

[quiet sentinel]

what its just 1 phase and 2nd phase

[quiet sentinel]

is flint good or dookie

i never tried making it work

[opal totem]

Me neither

[hardy jolt]

i love flint

[opal totem]

I don't like boost type consumables

[hardy jolt]

i use nail alot more than tools so it just helps with it

[opal totem]

I want to throw and forget

I mean yeah, I just don't like that prep time

And it's easier to "waste" it

[carmine crypt]

HES BACK?

[hardy jolt]

i think its worth it tho :3

[opal totem]

It might be

[carmine crypt]

HOLY SHIT ||GHOST|| SAVED ME

wait

no

thats not ||ghosts|| horns

wait

[opal totem]

Doesn't it give flat damage boost?

If it does then it's very strong early game

[hardy jolt]

not sure

[carmine crypt]

WAIT HOLY SHIT THATS ||PURE VESSEL||

THAT HAS TO BE HIM

[quiet sentinel]

it is flat

[carmine crypt]

||PURE VESSEL|| SAVED ME

[quiet sentinel]

bruh

its just ||ghost|| relax

[opal totem]

Epic early game double damage

[opaque shard]

||Pvs shade dosent look like that tho||

[carmine crypt]

true but ||neither does the knights||

||it had pvs horns||

[opal totem]

||Why would it be PV if dream no more is the most likely canon ending||

[hardy jolt]

does it tho??

[opal totem]

||Knight having an opinion on hornet makes much more sense||

[carmine crypt]

not the best image of it but look

[hardy jolt]

thats

thats the knight

[carmine crypt]

that doenst look like ||ghosts horns||

[opal totem]

He grew up

[hardy jolt]

not the hollow knight

[carmine crypt]

he had the little thing at the end

of them

[carmine crypt]

this guy doesnt theyre flat

[carmine crypt]

oh shit

[opaque shard]

Lmao

[carmine crypt]

they looked like that?? in that ending

[hardy jolt]

the knight has 2 spikes out of their head
THK has 3

[quiet sentinel]

i have 4

[carmine crypt]

i did not even realize cause i was too busy seeing ||radiance|| get fucking bodied

[hardy jolt]

🔥

[quiet sentinel]

which isnt a lie my vessel oc had 4 spikes

[hardy jolt]

show :3

[carmine crypt]

time to 100% this

[opaque shard]

I also had a vessel oc in middle school (it also had like 4 spikes lol)

[carmine crypt]

where hav i seen that pin before?

that feels familiar

[quiet sentinel]

i have tons more at home but this is on my phone

[hardy jolt]

AWW

[quiet sentinel]

ill show rest when im hom

[hardy jolt]

[carmine crypt]

oh right thats lace

i hope ||that bitch dies in that ending||

i hate you lace

and i allways will for that fuckass fight

[hardy jolt]

[opaque shard]

Whos gonna tell him?

[barren ingot]

||the hk relics give an insane amount of cash, probably enough to buy all but the unbreakables

so really no grind at all unless you want a really early lumafly lantern||

[carmine crypt]

silk blick mag dump into her head

[opaque shard]

Idk whats that suppose to mean

[carmine crypt]

theres a ||silk gun in the game||

[opaque shard]

Ik

[opal totem]

There's also a ||bad gun||

[carmine crypt]

does it shoot apples?

[opal totem]

Almost

[carmine crypt]

if it did shoot apples

would they be bad apples?

[velvet trench]

Okay finally beat stupid ||father of flame|| and found all ||fleas (i think, the ones that i can get rn anyway)||. Time for ||groal|| again ig....any tips?

[carmine crypt]

hop off silksong and hop on zote song

[opaque shard]

I mean i found a video on yt about cheesing him the other day want me to send it?

[velvet trench]

Sure

Hate him

[opaque shard]

||https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F46VZOS7tcU||

[hardy jolt]

||earlier M-Cool was talking about a strat to use druids eyes and multibinder outhealing them after getting eaten wreath of purity is also really helpful||

[opal totem]

Ok beast boss tier list

[velvet trench]

Wild title lmao

[opaque shard]

Mine is better

[opal totem]

No

[opaque shard]

Yes

[mental shuttle]

You can remove maggots with clean water

Cool detail

[opal totem]

I tried and it didn't work

Guess I haven't showered for long enough

[velvet trench]

Just swim in it for a bit

[hardy jolt]

shaw :3

[mental shuttle]

New torture method just dropped

Groal

At least with other unfun bosses
They're easy

[opal totem]

Just give me godhome and all bosses will become easy

[hardy jolt]

A vessel the pale king made for trapping the literal sun in its purest form < groal

[digital robin]

50%

[opaque shard]

Groal is the true god of gods

[opal totem]

Gms < groal then

[hardy jolt]

also true

[opaque shard]

Groal cult when

[hardy jolt]

and then savage beastfly > groal

[atomic lintel]

look at the HK ending again

[digital robin]

AND DONE (3 masks left)

[atomic lintel]

||ghost's horns are just longer in shade form lol||

[digital robin]

Horns could also grow up a bit with old age

HK grows A LOT

[hardy jolt]

how long ago were the vessels made?

[opaque shard]

Cuz hk ate its veggies

[hardy jolt]

hornets like pretty old

[opaque shard]

Vessels are definitely older than elderbug unironically

[atomic lintel]

||they dont grow as shades||

[digital robin]

The king was alive so a long time ago XD

[hardy jolt]

his ass is NOT an elder!

[opaque shard]

Elderbug is the youngestbug frfr