Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[lusty trout]

Hollow knight the sun

[hardy jolt]

THIS THING IS SO COOL

[opaque shard]

Hollow knight quirrelsquirrel

[quiet sentinel]

yay you got it

[hardy jolt]

YES

gonna test how much dmg it does

[opaque shard]

Why is the video just 10 seconds of black

[hardy jolt]

lemme grab my last crafting kit first

[opaque shard]

Did my discord got embraced my the void 😭

[hardy jolt]

yes

[quiet sentinel]

hehe wruff

[digital robin]

||You need a simple key + hook, is an act 2 door||

[digital robin]

Hornet after discovering you can throw rosaries before shooting:

[hardy jolt]

holy shit ultrakill reference

that'd be so cool tho

[digital robin]

rework the ||rosarie cannon|| to be the Ultrakill coin for projectiles that way it will not suck anymore XD

[quiet sentinel]

alright hornets

im gonna attempt steel souls achievements

because my brain power is too sleepy to route for speedrun

[hardy jolt]

glll

[quiet sentinel]

tyyy x3 i will probably die somewhere stupid and feel realllyyy dumb

[digital robin]

Any% has a guide in the forums

[opaque shard]

You can always quit before dying

[quiet sentinel]

also, 1717 on the main save hehe

[digital robin]

and a few 1:0Xh (old) WR

[quiet sentinel]

sorry but i am a true gamer

if youre gonna bench warp just play normal mode

[digital robin]

Dies to the ||Bell Beast||

[quiet sentinel]

whats the point of playing a challenge mode if youre gonna cheat the challenge lol

[opaque shard]

Dies to ||lil skull guys||

[digital robin]

Dies to the surprise on the right

[quiet sentinel]

theres a few places where i know i may die

[opaque shard]

Dies to ||moss mother||

[quiet sentinel]

and thats okay

[opaque shard]

Just git gud

[quiet sentinel]

i will do my best

[mental shuttle]

||styx|| is highkey a freak

Wait who replaces him in steel soul

[hardy jolt]

another freak

[unreal hedge]

quick question, where can I use a simple key?
||I have used it in Docks, Sinner's Road, and Wormway, and I cannot remember the fourth location where I saw a simple keyhole, even though I do remember I saw it before||

[opaque shard]

nah hes a chad

Works hard to make one of the best items in the game

[mental shuttle]

||high halls||

[mental shuttle]

Still a freak

[quiet sentinel]

im unstoppable, steel soul is easy, game is already won

[mental shuttle]

You die to fucking
Uhhhhhh
One of them floaty plants

[opaque shard]

||the craws||

[mental shuttle]

Augh

[tawdry osprey]

GG!

[quiet sentinel]

:3

im so dying to bell beast lmao

[opaque shard]

Just gid gud

[digital robin]

Does he know?

[quiet sentinel]

i was doing so well then i mistook the jump and got hit twice trying to get out of it being pinned there

[opaque shard]

Rip

[opaque shard]

No he does not know 😭

[digital robin]

THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILED

#1407386303796088832 message

[opaque shard]

Alright guys big question

which silksong character should I draw lol

[opal totem]

Goku

[digital robin]

Krilin

[opaque shard]

Eeeeww humans i dont draw these disgusting critters

[digital robin]

Goku is not human, he is a Sayajin

[hardy jolt]

||that one pilgrim who died and got thrown down the moss pit||

[opal totem]

No one remembers poor guy's name

[quiet sentinel]

from memory

[hardy jolt]

🔥

[digital robin]

It doesn't need to die (until ||act 3|| at least, no clue where it ends up there). It dies only if you do bad stuff

[opaque shard]

This guy?

[quiet sentinel]

i was pretty close

oh i forgot the wings

[opaque shard]

Lol

[quiet sentinel]

i think theyre a flying pilgrim

[opal totem]

What is bad stuff

[opaque shard]

Yeah i think those enemies that charge at you

[digital robin]

||Messing with the local enviorment (killing Skull Tyran) before messing with the city (reaching Act 2)||

||Also activating act 3 may kill him (last place that I found him in was the travelers rest that gets destroyed if you do that||

[opal totem]

It's not bad stuff if I'm paid to do it

[mental shuttle]

I did ||meat quest|| to avoid doing ||savage beastfly 2|| 💔

[native turret]

||flea dodge|| is kicking my ahh

[tawdry osprey]

juggle worse

[native turret]

nah

not for me

[opal totem]

Juggle worse

Dodge is just rng

[digital robin]

Dog is dead

[native turret]

how is rng better

[digital robin]

Juggle with ||Shaman + Fast sprint|| is super easy

[opal totem]

I'm better at getting lucky than at getting better

[native turret]

juggle took me less than 10 attempts, I am almost an hour in to dodge and I cant get over 55

[tawdry osprey]

it took me 10 mins to do both dodge and the other

[native turret]

when this bitch set it to 95

[tawdry osprey]

juggle took me 1 hour and a half

[digital robin]

The secret of dodge is that is better to just ||do Poggo 2 when it becomes super intense||

[native turret]

what ||crest|| is better for pogo?

[quiet sentinel]

progress

[digital robin]

Dog is NOT dead

[native turret]

||reaper, witch or shaman||

dog

[tawdry osprey]

||shaman, reaper and witch are the best ones, use whatever you are more comfortable with of the 3||

[native turret]

oh aight

[quiet sentinel]

||shaman|| is amazing

thats what i used for my 100% end :3

[mental shuttle]

||shaman|| is so goated

[blissful obsidian]

which one is the best?

[mental shuttle]

Spell spam crest

[blissful obsidian]

||i've unlocked architect's crest if that matters too||

[mental shuttle]

SPIDER

[native turret]

||wheel is crazy||

[mental shuttle]

Or wheel

Either one

[native turret]

it can carry you through a buncha bosses

[mental shuttle]

Spider is faster than turning around

[blissful obsidian]

what does spiderdo

[mental shuttle]

Its like a backdash

[blissful obsidian]

also any tips for ||forebrothers? they're hella annoying||

[blissful obsidian]

ehhhhh

ill go for the wheel then

[mental shuttle]

But you can climb up walls and shi

And its controllable

[blissful obsidian]

i got the ||ascendant's grip|| for that

[opal totem]

I wish its controls were more natural

[mental shuttle]

Real

[blissful obsidian]

also

any tips for ||forebrothers||

they're kinda annoying ngl

[opaque shard]

Hes dead 😦

[mental shuttle]

||magma bell||

[hardy jolt]

🔥

[blissful obsidian]

aight

[mental shuttle]

Actually mine didnt die

He was out when ||skull tyrant|| showed up

(Second playthrough)

I think if you fully upgrade ||bonebottom||

[quiet sentinel]

unstoppable force meets immovable object or something

[opaque shard]

dont die

[mental shuttle]

Crazy

How'd you do that 😭

[blissful obsidian]

basically uh

when it finishes vomiting jump up and hit it once

hide back under

rinse and repeat

[opal totem]

||I think Shakra doesn't want to sell me new pins because I still haven't bought the quill||

[quiet sentinel]

you sit there for like 3 minutes hitting it once and hiding, thats what i did on my main playthrough too lol, i didnt know people did it differently

[mental shuttle]

When I did HK steel soul run I got up to broken vessel and got smoked immediately

[mental shuttle]

WHY HAVENT YOU????

[opaque shard]

In my HK steel soul i died to the crystal hunters in ddark room 😭

[opal totem]

I want a red one

[mental shuttle]

A wgat

Red quill?

[opaque shard]

Well im gonna draw nighmare fuel now gl with the gayme yall ❤️

[opal totem]

Yes

[mental shuttle]

Show me surely

[opal totem]

There are 3 colors

[mental shuttle]

Why are there multiple quills????

😭

[native turret]

oh yea can I not buy the ||markers|| anymore now that ||shakra|| is a bit occupied

[native turret]

what's the third?

[opal totem]

Purple

[mental shuttle]

?????

[native turret]

Ooo

[mental shuttle]

Im so confused

Whats the criteria

[opal totem]

||Reach Trobbio's desk without a quill||

[mental shuttle]

LMAO

AWESOME

[native turret]

oh and the purple is ||the act 3 trobbio||?

[opal totem]

Yeah

[mental shuttle]

Guess I gotta do the whole game without buying it

[native turret]

man if I needed more reasons to replay the whole game

[mental shuttle]

Sob

(I really like purple)

Would it be okay to make my pfp ||tormented trobbio|| or is that too spoilery you think?

[native turret]

I think people can assume that it's an oc tbh

[quiet sentinel]

what thats such a cool detail i had no idea about the quill lol

[native turret]

cuz I would never have guessed that I will fight ||emo trobbio||

[mental shuttle]

LMFAO

[native turret]

both dodge and bounce are kicking my ahh

at least I get close with bounce

but man

sobbing

[mental shuttle]

Skill issue

Tbh

[native turret]

[mental shuttle]

Bounce
Just use reaper

[native turret]

switched to ||shaman||

[mental shuttle]

Its best for bounce imo

NOT ||WANDERER||

[native turret]

yea nah

[mental shuttle]

||reaper|| has a giant hitbox

[opal totem]

||Shaman and witch|| are better imo

More responsive

[quiet sentinel]

a pilgrim WHAT

[native turret]

sloggers

[mental shuttle]

Slogg

[native turret]

||shaman|| gives a massive boost methinks

bigger than the rest

[mental shuttle]

Its such a weird pogo tho

[opal totem]

It's pretty standard

[atomic lintel]

not really a fan of the moveset

[mental shuttle]

It pushes you back a little instead of forwards

[opal totem]

Not a fan of that sprint attack, the rest is great

[native turret]

she wants to be a mantis so bad ahh attack

[quiet sentinel]

i think its great and i wont acept any hate

[mental shuttle]

I like the concept of hornet taking fighting styles from other groups

Makes sense considering her fucking
Background

[mental shuttle]

It plays a little strange but I love it

[opal totem]

I hope they'll add more crests in dlcs

[quiet sentinel]

godtuner crest goes hard

[native turret]

I think ||shaman|| is good

[quiet sentinel]

see you get it

[native turret]

no funny number but oh well

[blissful obsidian]

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE COME ON

[native turret]

sobbing

[blissful obsidian]

this game hates me

[native turret]

where do ||elder pilgrims|| spawn?

[opal totem]

If that's the one I think it is then near ||ruined chapel||

It's also like 50/50 rng

[mental shuttle]

Mossbag video when

[atomic lintel]

||blasted steps||

[opal totem]

In 7 years

[atomic lintel]

||also in bonegrave yeah||

[mental shuttle]

Since when???

[opaque shard]

My silly little worm guy ❤️

[mental shuttle]

Fuck yea

[blissful obsidian]

these ||fleas|| pmo man

how do i know how many ive saved

[opaque shard]

count em

[blissful obsidian]

oh

also uh

how many of them do i need

||to shift the caravan from the grand gate||

[opaque shard]

Uhh idk i think the max is like ||35|| maybe like ||25||?

[mental shuttle]

25

[hardy jolt]

i like them :3

[opaque shard]

They a cutie :3

[blissful obsidian]

augh

[blissful obsidian]

implodes it

[opaque shard]

Nuh uh theyre 20 m tall

[blissful obsidian]

sounds like a job for the slightly larger orb of agony and despair

[native turret]

which part?

[opaque shard]

Nuh uh theyll eat it 😈

[blissful obsidian]

explodes it with the power of a 🍊

[opaque shard]

This will mastly effect the ecosystem

[atomic lintel]

i love the taunt feature cause it lets you get wallclimb without beating sister splinteer

[opaque shard]

Wai what how

[atomic lintel]

you can lure that flower here and pogo off of it

[digital robin]

Btw did anyone got this dialogue from the ||soon-to-be cursed|| NPC?

[hardy jolt]

[native turret]

horsie

[quiet sentinel]

goid even this enemy is scary in steelsoul

speedrunning to the dash rn i cnanot live without it

[digital robin]

For context: This happens if you go up here before ||dealing with the float cloak and 4th Corus (there is a hidden path to get up here earlier)||

It's a cool hidden dialogue

[native turret]

I never saw the ||possession of this guy|| that everyone keeps talking about

and Im pretty sure it's the same guy sitting in ||songclave|| no?

[digital robin]

||If you go back here after Sherma leaves (after entering Greymoor probably) he becomes a normal enemy||

[mental shuttle]

What the fuck

[quiet sentinel]

is this where it ends

what do you think chat

[atomic lintel]

also taunt lets you skip widow's intro dialogue

[quiet sentinel]

i did that on accident

i just initiate bosses with taunt

[digital robin]

Why are you going to ||Hunter's March||?

[native turret]

what is taunting?

[digital robin]

The "Challenge button"

[native turret]

[digital robin]

that makes the animation of Hornet starting their boss battles in HK

[native turret]

ohh

I forgot that's a thing

[digital robin]

There is 1 button that consumes 1 silk (unless you have a certain tool) to make enemies aggro you from afar

[native turret]

garama ✨

[digital robin]

it's useful for a few things like calling DA DOG a bit faster in stations

and aggroing enemies in the middle of a parkour section

[atomic lintel]

or luring enemies into a better position to pogo

[quiet sentinel]

how is this a revolutionary thing

i thought everyone knew about taunts

[native turret]

I forgor

[atomic lintel]

most people just dont know how to actually make them useful lo

[digital robin]

it's a sub-par button compared to the others XD

it's like the ||needle-violine|| outside of using it as a "key" of some sorts

[quiet sentinel]

who wants to chuck me cards so i dont have to spoend 5 bucks for the badge

[quiet sentinel]

fair

i guess everyone plays different

[blissful obsidian]

||garmond and weed|| have too many death flags man

[quiet sentinel]

my exploring is very inquisitive and i break every wall i can

[blissful obsidian]

im worried

[quiet sentinel]

or needle every corpse ect

[blissful obsidian]

[atomic lintel]

another thing people dont realise is that parrying removes your attack cooldown

[quiet sentinel]

wdym

chain parries are done automatically

[atomic lintel]

no they're not?

[quiet sentinel]

you just need to parry the first one and then itll do it for you if you keep pressing

they are lol

[atomic lintel]

thats not automatic

[quiet sentinel]

it is

it does the timing for you

okay

its auto adjusting

is that better

[native turret]

what dis (some late game enemy soilers)

[quiet sentinel]

||mitemother?|| idk

a mite

[atomic lintel]

okay i maybe didnt know that

if its true

[atomic lintel]

big mite

[quiet sentinel]

its same thing that sekiro does

[native turret]

what dat

[quiet sentinel]

theyre big and fat

check under bellway

[native turret]

ogie

[quiet sentinel]

theyres like 3 there

[native turret]

huh

[quiet sentinel]

they need to add paws to silksong

why are there claws but no paws

[native turret]

oh Ive never explored this part

just broke the breakable wall

[quiet sentinel]

funny

123

[quiet sentinel]

idk but i died again

i thought the dash was there

[digital robin]

BRUH

[quiet sentinel]

tbh im probably not ready for 100% steel soul like

having to do ||act II|| deathless sounds impossible for me rn

[digital robin]

||the dash is in forge. Hunter's is a fully optional area famous for being a noob-trap||

[quiet sentinel]

rip

i am noob

[native turret]

why is every single thing here ||void possessed||

[digital robin]

🚨 123h noob alert 🚨

[quiet sentinel]

why would the snails make me do this man

[native turret]

true

[digital robin]

||When a void mass is still alive in a room most enemies become void possessed until you kill it||

[native turret]

I rebinded the challenge button to alt and now I garama whenever I alt-tab

[native turret]

ohhh

[atomic lintel]

i love how team cherry realised how stupid weavers looked in HK and gave them a huge visual overhaul in silksong

[quiet sentinel]

||i cant believe the shamans made me do this||

[digital robin]

It's the easiest way to know that one is nearby

[digital robin]

||normally the corrupt in front of your eyes, if not chances are there is one and should be dealt with for future travels||

[quiet sentinel]

haha butt head

[native turret]

oh I reached 5k

[atomic lintel]

||they're actually corrupted from the beginning, sorta. when they spawn in they are predetermined to be corrupted or not and have increased health even before getting 'corrupted' in front of you||

[digital robin]

Btw, who do you think did this to the ||4th Corus||, I imagine it ||was send to capture the Seamstress (used to be a needle-master) and use it's weapon to finish him off after becoming a "cloths maker"||

[native turret]

omg ||shaman|| let me heal in the air please

[atomic lintel]

1h 20 minutes and ifinally got to bellhart, dang.

[hardy jolt]

||im going to cry why is savage beastfly 2 actually harder than lost lace||

[velvet trench]

Any tips for ||2nd lace fight? The parries are brutal, they always get me||

[hardy jolt]

||if you get parried you can jump straight upwards and no matter the type of counter she does it wont hit||

[opaque shard]

Cuz its the true final boss

[velvet trench]

Oh nice

[hardy jolt]

🥹 it would def be a scarier final boss thats for sure

[quiet sentinel]

You need to move out of the way for the diagonal riposte

Otherwise you fall back into it and it "catches" you

[velvet trench]

Just learnt that

[quiet sentinel]

yay

yea its a learning experience, but one of the bosses which is the most possible to master imo

[hardy jolt]

you can just float after the jump

[quiet sentinel]

lace moveset is very predictable

[velvet trench]

Literally as you sent that i died bc of that exact reason lmao

[opaque shard]

Ngl ||savage beastfly2|| took me like 2hour swhile ||lost lace|| took me 9 attempts lol

[velvet trench]

I cant predict it very well

[quiet sentinel]

youll learn!

[velvet trench]

[atomic lintel]

time to go to TM with 5 masks

[velvet trench]

I will say getting a ||counter parry on her w cross stitch|| is incredibly satisfying

[quiet sentinel]

like, the learning curve for some bosses is so nice, you go from getting read like a book to almost flawlessing the fights

some bosses just have bs rng that sucks

[digital robin]

||Usually jumping + dashing INTO Lace makes you dodge it (specially the ground ones)||

[quiet sentinel]

its so silly i love it

riposte the riposte

[velvet trench]

Mm thats what ive been doing but its inconsistent

Jumping is better i think

[quiet sentinel]

wow

i wonder how op hornet gets with every single one LMAO

[digital robin]

If you use range-crests and are far away sometimes you can run away in the ground and not be punished. But in general is better to just not trigger them

[velvet trench]

Im tryingg but its hard to predict when she does it

[hardy jolt]

mrow

[digital robin]

usually you get 1 free hit, maybe 2 and then is parry unless she moves the needle to start a new attack. In ||Lace 2|| seeing what position the needle is at any point is quite important

[quiet sentinel]

honestly im so excited to try radianting every boss

patiently waiting for dlc ->

[opal totem]

An interesting detail in dialogue I noticed
||Throughout act 2 caretaker refers to hornet as bellringer, except one time when he's called out about pretending to be someone he isn't, then he calls her old one - same nickname snail shamans use in act 3||

[velvet trench]

Radiant ||savage beastfly||

[quiet sentinel]

probably gonna be the new radiant markoth if you get bad rng

actually no

radiant ||groal||

by a mile

[atomic lintel]

hes not that bad

[quiet sentinel]

weird flex

[atomic lintel]

||did you know you can make him eat a 💣||

[velvet trench]

Hmm the main difficulty of ||groal|| for me was the runback, radiant wouldnt have that

[opal totem]

Neither are markoth level of bs

[atomic lintel]

||but yeah groal isnt that bad the runback is, and the arena encounter before him||

[queen trench]

defender's crest is so good for the lost kin fight

[quiet sentinel]

okay guess im just dogshit

i struggled with him for an hour

[opal totem]

Similar case with ||beastfly||, main difficulty is summons

[velvet trench]

Dw it took me 3 hours to beat ||sister splinter|| and everyone says that one is incredibly easy 🥹

[quiet sentinel]

they are 100% going to summon in the fight

i dont see why thats not gonna be included

[hardy jolt]

||why wouldnt there be summon still||

[quiet sentinel]

its just the pre-fight waves that are gonna be excluded

[velvet trench]

Or will they

[atomic lintel]

||first beastfly fight isnt even that bad honestly||

[hardy jolt]

||thats like removing collectors summons in hall of gods ||

[atomic lintel]

||second one though...||

[quiet sentinel]

wtf chiki

🥹

[velvet trench]

...theres a ||second beastfly||?

Oh god

[quiet sentinel]

its bad

on my steel soul runs thats definitely gonna be a bump with bad rng

[opal totem]

Summons nerfs next patch

[quiet sentinel]

like you either win or dont in that one

[atomic lintel]

||second beastfly isnt bad if you delay it||

[hardy jolt]

oh omg this is a peak update

[atomic lintel]

||get an extra nail upgrade and such||

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[atomic lintel]

||okay well its still bad but much better||

[quiet sentinel]

the real issue is the summons

[velvet trench]

It took me 9 hours to beat stupid ||chef lugoli||

[quiet sentinel]

flying summons that keep distance and deal 2 damage ranged is not okay

[velvet trench]

I am not...great at this game

[quiet sentinel]

if you start talking about magma bell im leaving this server

[digital robin]

||4th Corus done, time to get fleas to skip Morwing||

[velvet trench]

Most bosses take me at least an hour or two

[atomic lintel]

MAGMA BE

[velvet trench]

Even the easy ones..

[hardy jolt]

||not to mention the fucking lava spot they leave behind ||

[quiet sentinel]

honestly we have it all wrong

[digital robin]

||Lugoli is super simple yet annoying, I still feel stall mechanics with the flame or shaman 4 silk regen is the best strat||

[quiet sentinel]

the true radiant final boss is the ||squatcraw||

[digital robin]

You need to threadstorm when they spawn

[quiet sentinel]

yes thats how i did it

[opal totem]

Radiant ||flea festival||

[quiet sentinel]

im not saying there arent solutions

[velvet trench]

I didnt have either of those since i wanted to do it ||act 2||

[quiet sentinel]

im just saying by design its dookie

[digital robin]

Still annoying since it like to start dashing offscreen so you need to predict him.

[velvet trench]

I needed the ||needle upgrade|| bad

[digital robin]

||Flame is hidden in post-wings Graymoor||

[atomic lintel]

im gonna lose it

[clever furnace]

Steel soul?

[digital robin]

A trap really?

[velvet trench]

You mean the ||bomb|| thing?

[atomic lintel]

no but im trying to speedrun the game

[clever furnace]

For the achievement?

[atomic lintel]

for fun

[digital robin]

No, there is a blue tool that ||burns 1 silk to spawn projectiles (like glowing womb in HK)||

[velvet trench]

Ooh just beat ||lace 2||

[digital robin]

[icy basin]

bluesr world record video

[digital robin]

Did you change something or you just GIT GUD at learning their attacks?

[quiet sentinel]

im so proud of you chiki

[velvet trench]

Got gud

[icy basin]

damn gg

[quiet sentinel]

im still stuck at ||moss mother|| this game is hard

[hardy jolt]

i cant get past the first ledge hornet doesnt jump high enough

[icy basin]

its ok thats hte hardest boss in the game

[velvet trench]

Oh right, you just reminded me that the ||2nd moss mother|| fight took me 5 hours

[digital robin]

||4th C done, time to farm Fleas to ignore Morwing||

[hardy jolt]

||C?||

[quiet sentinel]

how many hours do you have rn LMAO

i feel so bad but also i cant stop laughing

[velvet trench]

Lmao

Uhh

75 hours

Ive not found ||act 3|| yet

[quiet sentinel]

keep us updated

[velvet trench]

Ive tried to do everything but decided to just go for the ||act 2 endings|| now, i got stuck on ||raging conchfly and groal|| and got annoyed

Other rhan those 2 i think ive done everything in ||act 2||

Apart from like 2 quests

[quiet sentinel]

did you manage to do the ||cursed ending||?

[hardy jolt]

erm

[quiet sentinel]

4 purple bags

[icy basin]

._.

[velvet trench]

No cause i got ||witchs crest|| super early, when i only had ||one melody||, ill prob replay or rewind my save to get those

[icy basin]

do yall play this small indie game called... minecraf?

[quiet sentinel]

maybe a few years ago sure

[hardy jolt]

no

[quiet sentinel]

not my type of game

[mental shuttle]

Hey have yall heard of this small indie game called fortni

[quiet sentinel]

aw okay

[velvet trench]

I used to own a mc server...dark times

[quiet sentinel]

gl when you attempt it!

[icy basin]

that makes sense

[quiet sentinel]

its not too bad if you treat it like a hitless

where you can make some mistakes

[velvet trench]

[icy basin]

...

[mental shuttle]

Steeling my soul rn

[quiet sentinel]

i love terraria a lot though and i know comparrisons are made a bunch but like

calamity mods, infernum ect

its heat

[mental shuttle]

Should've called it steel silk or smth

[quiet sentinel]

its peak

it could be a standalone game

its that peak

[mental shuttle]

RAHHHHH I LOVE CALAMITY

[quiet sentinel]

REAL

im thinking of starting a new cal playthrough once the update drops

[icy basin]

||4 chorus fruit -> fourth chorus||

[quiet sentinel]

gonna try out the new updated wrath of the gods and wrath of the machines :3

made by talented modder lucille karma

[icy basin]

damn the joke really isn't funny now that i explained it

[quiet sentinel]

it helps to have both ||pale oils||

[mental shuttle]

Pail oles

Im so unbelievably intelligent

[mental shuttle]

LMAO

If i could send a voice message id voice act this

[quiet sentinel]

and if you ever need like a tip for the fight
||keep your eyes on pins, her body is so fat you dont need to focus on it, and also you can knock out the spikes out of the way when they pop up, you can also beat the fight by standing completely still in one spot and just jumping or moving slghtly when you need to, the fight itself is actually really easy to focus if you take it slow, the attacks rarely overlap and everything is really well telegraphed, and theres basically 2 attacks total if you think about it, the claw swipe and the pins falling down or doing a 2 pattern (3 if in phase 2)||

[icy basin]

lmao fr

[quiet sentinel]

and the dodging is also very spacious and forgiving like you could dodge super late and still be fine

[mental shuttle]

GMS is so piss easy the ||curse|| ending actually makes the fight hard

[icy basin]

damn

[quiet sentinel]

wruff

[tawdry osprey]

Garama

[mental shuttle]

Real

[quiet sentinel]

n||o shaw when i grapple? unacceptable||

[mental shuttle]

Doing ANYTHING ELSE to avoid FF SB

[tawdry osprey]

@velvet trench cool pfp

[quiet sentinel]

awruff arf wruff

[mental shuttle]

Youre so real

Arf arf and shi

[velvet trench]

Thank you silksong server challenge

[quiet sentinel]

Hoy! Did you see it, red maiden? The great gate heard my song and, in its infinite and ancient kindness, has opened the way forward for us!
Gate, gate, gate! Nicest gate I've met! Gate, gate, gate! Greatest miracle yet! Ha ha ha!

[hardy jolt]

wroof wruff bark bark woof

[velvet trench]

Im gonna go back to riv soon but all my friends had silksong pfps so had to join in

[quiet sentinel]

[velvet trench]

And sherma is best character ofc 🔥

[mental shuttle]

Fa ri du la si ma net

[quiet sentinel]

sherma best boy

bestest

[hardy jolt]

this is what i look like if you even care

[quiet sentinel]

i care so much

[mental shuttle]

Ive seen this fucking dog everywhere

[hardy jolt]

[icy basin]

i ould totally open the door

[quiet sentinel]

this is what i look like if u even care

[mental shuttle]

Peak

[native turret]

what dis (creature spoilers)

[hardy jolt]

silly creature :3

[opal totem]

Babies

[mental shuttle]

Its so specific gimme ur BS map

[quiet sentinel]

bullshit map

[icy basin]

i read it llike that as well

[velvet trench]

Same

[icy basin]

above the bellway

[quiet sentinel]

||breakable wall ||

[native turret]

dam

[tawdry osprey]

True

[mental shuttle]

Fuck discord

[hardy jolt]

the wawawawawers

[native turret]

oooh thoseeee

[mental shuttle]

You gotta play music

[quiet sentinel]

WAWAWAWAWAWA

[atomic lintel]

WAWAWAWAWAWAWA

[native turret]

I miss ddark

[mental shuttle]

Awawawa

[atomic lintel]

i love them

[mental shuttle]

Real

I need a downward silk skill

[quiet sentinel]

i miss cdash wdym i have to wear some stupid grip tool now

[atomic lintel]

too bad they grow up into judges and then bash your head with a mace

[quiet sentinel]

ooh thats what they grown into

i was wondering what their adult form was

[native turret]

WAWAWAWAWA

[hardy jolt]

thats why you kill them all before then

[atomic lintel]

||theres a table with judge shields and maces in the same room||

[quiet sentinel]

you know i never paid attention

[barren ingot]

||for both of them you can just slash, and jump over and dash past her and she cant do anything about it. 100% safe, and then you can run back to smack her once or twice after the counter is finished.|| (the most spoilery spoiler there is)

[atomic lintel]

its a cool detail

[native turret]

sorry babies

[atomic lintel]

not even children are safe from pharloom indoctrination 💔

[barren ingot]

||I did the hunter crest sprint attack but it should work with any in theory as long as you dash||

[mental shuttle]

Im lowkey goated at this gmr

[atomic lintel]

finally. citadel.

[mental shuttle]

Lowkey wish this game had a invincible dash

[atomic lintel]

only took me like almost 2 hours

gotta speedrun now

[hardy jolt]

||Tipp and Pill probably have my favorite voice acting in the game||

[quiet sentinel]

that doesnt sound safe, cant she just switch her direction with a diagonal riposte

[mental shuttle]

Would probably destroy the game balance but whatevwr

[quiet sentinel]

jumping up gives you time to react to the direction and dash away accordingly

[atomic lintel]

i mean theres that one silk skill

[barren ingot]

direction never swapped once for me? perhaps the timing just worked out

[quiet sentinel]

unless im misunderstanding

[barren ingot]

I never got punished by it

[quiet sentinel]

you mustve gotten really lucky then lmao

[mental shuttle]

But it uses silkkkkk

[atomic lintel]

i hate how lace has a few pixelsd outside the outline on this frame

what the fuck team cherry

[quiet sentinel]

yea she can just switch up from which side she does it

[atomic lintel]

unplayable

[barren ingot]

not luck, just an accidentally consistent setup

[quiet sentinel]

i still dont get it

[barren ingot]

the animation for the sprint attack on hunter crest where you bounce over takes a pretty consistent amount of time

so that stall must wait out the turning around period

[quiet sentinel]

isnt that riposte specifically used to counter what youre explaining

[barren ingot]

I have no idea what you mean by riposte

[quiet sentinel]

the message you replied to is talking about her 2 ripostes after you hit her guard

[barren ingot]

I just say "counter attack", is it not the same thing?

[native turret]

dis? (more creature soilers)

[quiet sentinel]

so you hit it, jump and dash over her?

or am i not understanding

that shouldnt work, her diagonal one is specifically designed to catch that

cause she goes behind you for it

[native turret]

I dash away

[quiet sentinel]

that leaves you at risk to the horizontal one

you never know which one she does

best play it safe and keep yourself airborne

[mental shuttle]

Thats it

[native turret]

idk I would back away and both would miss me

unless my timing was off

[quiet sentinel]

??

[mental shuttle]

Im snaking it
Snake eater
The main theme for metal gear solid 3: snake eater

[quiet sentinel]

your silksong copies are broken LMAO what 😭

[atomic lintel]

for lace 2 cant you just run away from her counter

[quiet sentinel]

maybe ||lace 2 is more forgiving??||

[atomic lintel]

i always had enough time lol

[opal totem]

Why does lace have different pins in game and in journal

[quiet sentinel]

okay then thats probably it

[opal totem]

Unplayable

[hardy jolt]

do you want blunt direction

[quiet sentinel]

i thought the riposte was the same length

but yeah okay if its different then yea that makes sense now

[atomic lintel]

what what do you mean

[native turret]

sure

[hardy jolt]

[opal totem]

The hook shape is slightly different

[atomic lintel]

🥹

[quiet sentinel]

best area sfx in the game btw

crunchy crunch

[opal totem]

Wrong crunch

[mental shuttle]

Im dark and emo now

[quiet sentinel]

@velvet trench hop on ||https://youtu.be/_rWFwXyN39U||

[atomic lintel]

i actually beat the first phase of this

[quiet sentinel]

how does it feel to fight it looks fun

im gonna figure out modding so i can try it

[hardy jolt]

what in the infernum DoG

[quiet sentinel]

infernum mentioned PEAK

[atomic lintel]

sometimes the flying sword patterns (diagonal over horizontal/vertical) overlap in a nasty way and pretty much become undodgeable

[mental shuttle]

I still gotta play pale court 💔

[atomic lintel]

other than that its good

[barren ingot]

||perhaps it's a matter of having the trinket that lets you run faster||

[quiet sentinel]

hot take but pale court looks mid as fuck

[native turret]

I picked a bad ||crest|| for this place

[atomic lintel]

not sure how much more often it happens in the 2nd phase

[hardy jolt]

pale court is fun :<

[quiet sentinel]

like the animations look pretty clunky

and the attacks seem really weird

i watched a showcase

[mental shuttle]

What the gold shit on your thing

[opal totem]

||Egg of flealia||

[native turret]

I meant to put on ||shaman|| idk how I mistook it with this

[quiet sentinel]

true i didnt think about that

i took mine off and put on ||dice for shaman||

[mental shuttle]

||all flea reward?||

[opal totem]

Yes

[quiet sentinel]

i feel like being far away puts you in a bad position especially in the last phase ||if were talking about lost lace||

[native turret]

now what

[quiet sentinel]

since you dont really have a flat area to run away

[hardy jolt]

ermm

[native turret]

nvm

it's awake

I have one health

ono

[hardy jolt]

goodluck!!

[mental shuttle]

||L.Lace|| is peak

[quiet sentinel]

easy first try you got this

[quiet sentinel]

thats what im sayin

[native turret]

yea

[mental shuttle]

Whats awake 😭

[quiet sentinel]

i went back and fought it after i beat my 100% until i flawlessed it just because its that satisfying to learn

[mental shuttle]

Real

[native turret]

a silly little guy

[opal totem]

Rain world the watcher

[lusty trout]

uhh how im supposted to fully add them ||to bestiary now||

[quiet sentinel]

watcher update tomorrow

[hardy jolt]

theres prolly one somewhere else

[opal totem]

Find second one in ||memorium||

[mental shuttle]

I cant find this one again where is it

[opal totem]

I think there's one more in ||act 3 far fields|| too

[mental shuttle]

Silksong 1 hour speedru

[opal totem]

5 hour act 1 speedrun

[quiet sentinel]

"Can I beat SILKSONG in time for a refund?"
Insert thumbnail with a fake discord chat of steam saying "lol you cant" and them replying with "watch me"

this is why they pay me the big bucks

[mental shuttle]

Peak

No theres a 1 hour 3 min 41 sec speedrun i found

Fucking
Bluesr

[quiet sentinel]

im backing up my save

||https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/261||

gonna do my training montage for steel soul

i made a funny

[gray horizon]

if the joker made an omelette, would it be called a yolker?

[quiet sentinel]

ngl they had such a glowup

[native turret]

where can I find this guy

[quiet sentinel]

they have a chance to spawn in the open area of the ||memorium||

when all the little ones fly up and away

just keep re-entering the room until you get it

[hardy jolt]

||the real difficulty of great taste of pharloom aint the rasher its the money ||

[native turret]

this right?

[quiet sentinel]

yep

[native turret]

yippe

dammit

[quiet sentinel]

wow lol

i didnt know there was a maximum

[native turret]

is there a place that makes necklaces

[mental shuttle]

????

[opal totem]

There are two places that make 60 ones

[quiet sentinel]

well that was a simple installation process

time to flawless some bosses and git gud!

[native turret]

yea Im full on 60 ones

[quiet sentinel]

using the save file the mod gave me cause i dont wanna mess up my main save

this user was using the backup bind

wtf

[digital robin]

Yea 10/20 is the max for all items you can buy infinitely

[opal totem]

You can only make 60 and 120

[opal totem]

20

[native turret]

where are the 120 ones

[opal totem]

10 is max for ||silkeater|| iirc

[atomic lintel]

backup your save btw

[native turret]

suffering from success

[digital robin]

Bellhard

[native turret]

oh aighty

[atomic lintel]

backup bind is good!!!!!!

[opal totem]

I just misspelled it the same way

[unreal hedge]

well, I mentioned before that I constantly lacked rosaries

[quiet sentinel]

this is a different save that the mod owner suggested to use

i just made it go in save 4

[native turret]

sobbing

[quiet sentinel]

im not touching my main dw

[opal totem]

It taking too long

I don't like it

[native turret]

I would donate mine

[quiet sentinel]

they have the lame ||silkshot|| on this save

boooo

[hardy jolt]

holy rich

[digital robin]

Bruh, this is one of the best yellow tools

[native turret]

I still have 1.5k

but this will do

oh I can spend it on shards

[atomic lintel]

which one

[digital robin]

Time to BIRD UP

[lusty trout]

what is this

[digital robin]

let's see if my run ends in this arena or something

[quiet sentinel]

triple shot

wait how do they have all tools but 2 craftmetal leftover

[native turret]

is there a merchant that gives a different shard bundle

or is the regular one the only one

[quiet sentinel]

vendors just sell the regular yea

[native turret]

you just got a letter

I wonder who its from

oh also where can I find the last cylinder

[quiet sentinel]

i think this will be a comfy crest setup for practising flawless

i wanna keep it as basic as possible

i wish my needle wasnt maxed on the save but its okay'

[queen trench]

oh gosh white defender is so fun

I'm now on his 5th "phase"

[queen trench]

flawless?

[digital robin]

||Bird Up arena - 1st try (ignoring a quit when practicing the tall bird at the entrance since I forgot their moveset and wanted to practice)||

Now I should have an easy time until ||Widow/Mist|| if I don't do something dumb

[quiet sentinel]

flawless, radiant, hitless, ect

basically doing the fight with perfect dodging

thats my goal rn

making a list of every boss and im gonna work my way down

only then will i feel comfy enough to steel soul

okay im getting a debug mod to give myself base needle

i just 5 shot ||bell beast|| lol

not really a fair hitless at all, im gonna keep base on at all times

[atomic lintel]

its funny how you can beat the game without getting double jump

like its not required at all

[digital robin]

It's needed for ||act 3||

Also it was only needed for 1 spot in HK (that can be skiped somewhat easily anyways)

[unreal hedge]

optional content

[atomic lintel]

practically everything is needed for true ending to be fair

there are very few things you can skip in that

[digital robin]

You don't need the Challenge button

[unreal hedge]

you can skip practically every tool/crest I suppose

is there any mandatory tool?

ah

||the silk crest one for the Silk and Soul I suppose||

[atomic lintel]

i dont think there is?

oh right

[unreal hedge]

optional content

[digital robin]

I wonder if at some point speedruners will found how to skip ||needing the needoline in the Mist (activate lanternflies)|| to see what happens when you try to learn the songs

||Right now I know you can skip it twice (they are semi-fixed) so it would be only 3 gambles in a row||

[unreal hedge]

anyway that's finished (definitely some content missing still)

[atomic lintel]

||the mist doesnt have any valid paths if you dont have the needolin im pretty sure||

[unreal hedge]

i have a desire to decompile

[quiet sentinel]

did you route it yourself? if so how restricting would you say it felt

or i guess better term would be how rushed did you feel

[unreal hedge]

uhhh I pretty much just got 95% from my own exploration and looked up the last 5% lol

[quiet sentinel]

is 30 hours enough to be comfortable, im not very good and would probably forget about things and have to go back to them

oh wait is that your first playthrough

[unreal hedge]

yes

[quiet sentinel]

jesus

mine hit 66 hours for my 100% </3

[digital robin]

If you wait until you have your powers and have a map (not forget stuff) the only problem are the required bosses

that can take hours if you struggle on them

[atomic lintel]

my 100% is like 60 hours i think

[unreal hedge]

ah yeah and I, only struggled on like 2 bosses

[quiet sentinel]

i dont think i struggled too hard anywhere, i think a lot of the time was just spent exploring and discovering

[unreal hedge]

i suppose a lot of practice from Hollow Knight normal carried over

[digital robin]

Mine was like 80h, but I was going in circles and got stuck in most hard bosses for a bit due to NOT LOCKING IN

[quiet sentinel]

what is base needle damage?

[atomic lintel]

okay my 100% was just under 60 hours

[digital robin]

also I did most extra stuff that is not needed for 100% like Journal

[quiet sentinel]

this debug mod wont let me change the tier so im just gonna apply a 0.x multiplier to reduce it lol

[unreal hedge]

welcome back ilSpy

[atomic lintel]

HH arena with 5 masks time

sob

[quiet sentinel]

is it 7 damage

and how much damage is ||pale steel||

[native turret]

what are these two

[quiet sentinel]

WW boss i think?

||under ww elevator||

wait no

[atomic lintel]

i think ||every nail hits equal to your nail damage||

[quiet sentinel]

thats a ||spool||

uhhhh

oh right

||you find a surgeon key in ww hidden ceiling||

[native turret]

yea I have the key

[quiet sentinel]

||activating the device causes the floor to open and the boss down there spawns those minions||

[native turret]

ah

[quiet sentinel]

go use it then!!

asking here without even having used up content smh

/lh

[quiet sentinel]

well yes but i want the actual numbers 😭

this looks correct i think

[native turret]

oh a ||spool fragment||

[quiet sentinel]

yea sorry

for spoiling that

[native turret]

I forgot about it

[quiet sentinel]

i misremembered lmao

i guess this should be fine then

thats basically 5 damage

now ill feel better about my radiant attempts without 3 shotting the early game bosses

this should be fine as well to truly master boss movesets

[unreal hedge]

found it

||```cs
public int nailDamage => nailUpgrades switch
{
0 => 5,
1 => 9,
2 => 13,
3 => 17,
_ => 21,
};

[quiet sentinel]

LAME

i just want base damage

[unreal hedge]

can you set the nail upgrades to a different number

[hardy jolt]

gn silksongers

[tawdry osprey]

Good evening

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

no such setting

im assuming theres no safe way to edit the save

[unreal hedge]

Took a while mainly because I am not familiar with the Silksong codebase like I am with RW's

[tawdry osprey]

[quiet sentinel]

sleep welll

[hardy jolt]

aaaaahajajw

[hardy jolt]

thankies

[native turret]

goo niiii

well I got 2% left

[unreal hedge]

and also I was searching unoptimally in retrospect

[native turret]

||2 more spool fragments and 2 more memory lockets||

and I have to encounter one more creature and I know exactly which one

I just really did not want to fight it

[unreal hedge]

lol

[tawdry osprey]

Do the second ones count?

I got all for my 100% but I don’t think they count

[native turret]

[quiet sentinel]

they do not

[native turret]

then what else am I missing

[quiet sentinel]

their last percents are the ||spools||

[unreal hedge]

I am missing exactly one

[quiet sentinel]

since you mentioned you were missing 2

[native turret]

oh is that all

[quiet sentinel]

yep

journal doesnt count

[native turret]

thought 2 counted as 1

oh well then

yea I figured

doesnt for HK either

[quiet sentinel]

oh maybe 2 does count as 1 let me check

here

you can deduct what you have left, if its just spools then yeah each one is 1

[native turret]

does ||Eva|| do anything after ||2nd Hunter upgrade||?

[quiet sentinel]

yes

do you mind the spoiler or just a yes is fine

[native turret]

yes is fine

[quiet sentinel]

oki

[native turret]

I do wanna go to her after getting the remaining ||memory lockets||

[quiet sentinel]

yea there is one more thing, so there you go

1 more spool, and 1 final ||eva gift||

[native turret]

but I do gotta wonder now where are the two remaining

||spools|| at least make a louder noise

[quiet sentinel]

idk why i doubted myself masks also act the same way (mask shards dont count only completed ones)

i learnt this from a skurry vlow% hk ideo

scurry skurry idk

[native turret]

skurry yea

[quiet sentinel]

furry ori hk speedrunner

[quiet sentinel]

theyre not too bad like... i feel like you just got the worst one

||the one under the elevator||

the rest are kinda, if you're opening up shortcuts youll find them type of deal

cause the elevator one was the last one for me lol

[unreal hedge]

The one I missed I missed is ||Cogwork Core|| because I just entered the room and immediately left to explore later, and I assumed I already explored it later

[quiet sentinel]

laces voice actor is so good they did such a good job choosing her

[unreal hedge]

To the point where after searching for a few hours, I looked up spool locations, and then searched 10 spots before actually finding it

[quiet sentinel]

that slight vocal crack when she laughs is so adorable and really puts the cute but deadly into the character i feel like

[unreal hedge]

I found the ||elevator one instantly because I was curious if there was anything under it (most elevators have something under them)||

[quiet sentinel]

LMAO yea that happens

i thought to myself about the elevator one as well but instantly forgot

and just never thought about it ever again

was too distracted by everything else

flawless going well

gotta keep track of when i get certain abilities or it just isnt fair

[unreal hedge]

basically I missed an incredibly blatant spool because of Skill Issue lol

I should have actually utilised map pins tbh, I always forge tto

[hollow laurel]

You still need ||needolin for the song to get to the cradle||

[cobalt ivy]

bruh wth i accidentally beat the game ||before i even saw act 3|| NOOoOOoo

[unreal hedge]

it just reverts you to pre-ending state if you select the save

[opal totem]

That was the only one I missed, I couldn't figure out how to get there

[cobalt ivy]

oh. HOORAY!!

[digital robin]

Yea, ||what I'm curious is what would happen if you try learning a song without it||

[tawdry osprey]

Imagine it just spawns

[unreal hedge]

okay I checked the code , ||yeah there is just no valid door at all without Needolin||

[quiet sentinel]

thats funny

[unreal hedge]

||more properly, the needed door's ID is set to -1 without Needolin, and is random with it, and no doors have ID of -1||

||,,, door being the internal name||

||MazeController.LinkDoors()||

[quiet sentinel]

||4th chorus radiant, pretty easy bosses so far, time for the true challenge; savage beastfly||

[digital robin]

try to clip OOB the ||Judge|| Door

[split sluice]

||Savage beastfly 2 radiant||

[atomic lintel]

alright ||lace 2|| beaten

[unreal hedge]

soil

[atomic lintel]

[quiet sentinel]

first try

[atomic lintel]

barely a soil honestly but

whateve

[quiet sentinel]

yeah that will probably be hell

[unreal hedge]

i suppose

||it's obvious you will refight Lace, with explicit confirmation in the form of the Journal||

||Lace is basically the Hornet of Silksong||

[atomic lintel]

the fact ||the cradle has a map you have to PAY FOR is so funny||

[unreal hedge]

fuck I forgot, ||is that the grandma fight location||

[atomic lintel]

yea

[unreal hedge]

tbh true of everything in ||Citadel||

90% chance I forgot one of the regions works differently and it will be pointed out

[quiet sentinel]

next team cherry game announced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9JIEIYmTQ

[atomic lintel]

why didnt they make it so you can skip the credits past your first playthrough

🥹

[unreal hedge]

untagged post-ending content spotted /j

[quiet sentinel]

youre going to WATCH the credits and LISTEN to the ending music and youre gonna LIKE it

[atomic lintel]

not gonna lie

im a bit dissapointed theres no zote-esque characters in silksong

i need a stupid idiot character that keeps getting almost killed everywhere or else the game will be a 0/10 💔

wooo

[unreal hedge]

(postgame) ||Garmond comes close, but they fall to the void, Zote is a great warrior who would never fall to an infection||

[atomic lintel]

||garmond isnt an idiot he's cool,,,,,||

||and he's actually like, skilled.||

[unreal hedge]

||And Zote is the strongest character in HK||

[atomic lintel]

||garmond doesnt force the main character to save himself all the time||

[unreal hedge]

Anyway I suppose the actual closest equivalent to Zote in Silksong is ||Grindle ||

But ||they're not quite an idiot, they just get themself stuck in a few places||

[atomic lintel]

||i wish grindle actually like, robbed bone bottom or bellhart.||

||it'd be funny ||

[unreal hedge]

||Neither does Zote, in fact the player only interrupts Zote's great and successful hunts||

[native turret]

time to do this again

[unreal hedge]

Tbh I wouldn't call Zote idiotic either, just way too proud to admit any defeat

[opal totem]

Ok yeah ||eva upgrades are totally tied to memory lockets used||

||Just stood in front of her with 5 crests unlocked and she didn't give me second vesticrest until I used 6 lockets||

[atomic lintel]

||didnt you unlock a shortcut up there lol||