Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[native turret]

I need 4 more ||memory lockets||

pre a3 I thought there were 5 ||crests|| so I spent every single one I had

[unreal hedge]

||thing is that I have no idea how to mark it as a spoiler without misleading the act 2 players who have beaten the game but haven't unlocked act 3||

[native turret]

yea true

[tawdry osprey]

post game content

[unreal hedge]

it's misleading to tag it as that too

[tawdry osprey]

it is misleading but thats better than telling the truth isnt it

[native turret]

people in act 2 wont be clicking on it at least

[unreal hedge]

||what about the previous group of people who have beaten it without unlocking act 3||

[native turret]

oh

[tawdry osprey]

||theyll click on late game stuff if they havent beaten the final boss anyways||

literally theres no good way to do it

[native turret]

tbf I did know one person like that

[unreal hedge]

||you can beat the final boss without unlocking act 3, that's the issue||

[quiet sentinel]

if peole are clicking spoilers its at their own discretion if they choose to get spoiled on content or not

we do our part and cater with a warning

[tawdry osprey]

yeah but people may ignore doing it until theyve done EVERYTHING so imo that appeals to a lesser nomber of people

[native turret]

oh I have only 2 more things left in my ||materium||

[unreal hedge]

||uhhh how was the wish unlocking act 3 called||

[quiet sentinel]

clicking a spoiler that says "ultra super lategame" and then getting upset its a lategame spoiler like
?

[tawdry osprey]

||silk and soul||

[unreal hedge]

anyway postgame seems like the most workable one even if it's flawed

[quiet sentinel]

all done with uw yay

[tawdry osprey]

with what

[quiet sentinel]

||underworks||

what else 😭

UNDERWEAR

[native turret]

so which side of SoK should I sniff

[quiet sentinel]

upper

sniff it good

[unreal hedge]

congratulations on graduating from the university of warsaw

[quiet sentinel]

and then after upper, sniff the lefter

[opal totem]

Optional

I think

[digital haven]

i love ||shaman|| crest

its so wonderhoy

[unreal hedge]

what's a nice method of rosaries farming

[native turret]

oh found it immediately yippie

[digital haven]

||theres an npc in underworks
and theres a threadmill
if you run onnit for 40 secs it gives you cash
so you can just leave it afk||

[unreal hedge]

(act 2 wish) ||Doing deliveries is what I typically used, but idk if there's something better that's not a Constantly Killing One Enemy monotonous||

[quiet sentinel]

postgame :(

[unreal hedge]

soil

[quiet sentinel]

im so proud of you

[digital haven]

i am totally forger mb

[quiet sentinel]

after you finish up with that, around the left of the region

[digital haven]

what exactly?

[unreal hedge]

||anyway huh I thought running on the treadmill did nothing ||

[digital haven]

it gives you 1

which is quite a lot

[native turret]

oh THE HEALING IS NOT HEALING

[digital haven]

i need context

[native turret]

||im discovering electricity||

[native turret]

||witch crest||

[digital haven]

OH THAT PLACE IS COOL

very silly. worth doing

[unreal hedge]

in the description it mentioned ||leeching from your enemies|| iirc, I didn't experiment with it much though

[native turret]

yea I have no idea what it means yet

[digital haven]

||yeah you need to hit an enemy with the bind are thing to heal||

fun fact post ending spoilers ||beastlings cant grab you from the surface. this is because theyre not doing border cave for their moms friend||

[unreal hedge]

it wasn't as cool as ||architect or wanderer|| so I didn't experiment much

[hardy jolt]

what

[digital haven]

whats so what about this

[hardy jolt]

im

[digital haven]

its simple, they dont care enough

[hardy jolt]

OH

okay i know what you mean now

[digital haven]

what did you think i meant,,

[hardy jolt]

||did not know beastling meant the bell beast babies and so i was just confused on what "not grabbing you from the surface cus they dont wanna do border cave for their moms friend" means||

[native turret]

well that's all the tools

[digital haven]

oh

theyre called that

[hardy jolt]

||was especially confused on "for their moms friend" ||

[queen trench]

it's stuck

[digital haven]

im.getting flashbacks

colloseum.. was so ass..

but also so fun..

[queen trench]

I farmed the second trial a lot for geo

back in the day

[digital haven]

omg same

it gave like 2k right?

[native turret]

what this

[digital haven]

i farmed that for unbrk strength

[native turret]

who didnt

[hardy jolt]

|||the one on the left should help figure it out ||

[native turret]

[digital haven]

lemme go check

[digital haven]

theyre that close together?

[native turret]

back to the ||blue ways|| then

[hardy jolt]

yes.

[digital haven]

i thought cuase it was different act material theyd be separate

[hardy jolt]

they're seperate in a different kind of way :3

[digital haven]

well. i need to go make my home

WHAT THE FUCK ||CRAWBELL|| IS OP

THATS SO MUCH WTF

[hardy jolt]

||crazy thing is the craw note only appeared for me after i bought everything so it was literally useless for me||

[native turret]

IT WAS HERE THE ENTIRE TIME???

[digital haven]

im thinking of doing a tool build for the finalest boss of the game

bur... nail build..

[native turret]

[hardy jolt]

||tacks ||

[digital haven]

but... cowardice..

[hardy jolt]

hmhm.. ||flintslate <3||

[digital haven]

do i urrrr use ||archicrest!||

[hardy jolt]

well if tool build then yes

[digital haven]

goes out too quickly

[digital haven]

it has a gross pogo

and ive been doing like 15 pogo combos on the bossess head

like. they jump? i jump above and start pogoing

[hardy jolt]

maybe tool build isnt great idea then

[mellow sigil]

wait a guide for mask shards I found says that theres 5 mask shards that are exclusive to ||act 3||
||you actually cant get 9 masks in act 2??||

[hardy jolt]

you can

guide is

dumb

[digital haven]

bur... im havent beat boss yet

HOW ARE THERE STILL GRAND HUNTS

AND ONE GIVES A MASK SHARD??

[gray horizon]

||is the huntress quest required for act iii?||

[digital haven]

nop

[gray horizon]

oh thank god

[digital haven]

its really easy though

like

really

easy

[quiet sentinel]

idk what guide youre reading but i found my 9 masks just fine lol, dont even need a guide for them they are all super easy

[tawdry osprey]

yeah honestly

[digital haven]

im missing 3 and idk which

[quiet sentinel]

and the ||act III|| ones are handed to you on a silver platter if you do quests so theyre unmissable

[tawdry osprey]

yeah lol

theres only one you have to search

[mellow sigil]

one shard until 9 masks

its the ||savage beastfly|| one

I dont have the ||quest for it in Bellhart for some reason||

[hardy jolt]

goodluck

[clever furnace]

(act 2)||Guys, the citadel is literally just vatican city, the final boss has got to be the pope||

[queen trench]

yeah

[unreal hedge]

(postgame) ||what do you think of calling act 3 "post-grandma" ||

[digital haven]

that name is an act 2 spoiler though

post ending is a much better name

[unreal hedge]

but it's also funny

[blissful obsidian]

lowkey I’ve got mixed feelings about ||architect’s crest, like 3 tool slots seems interesting, but the down attack seems kinda dogshit||
Also anyone know where I can get two more ||memory lockets fast? I need 2 more to max it out||

[native turret]

late game stuff, could I get some hints about these?

so close

[tawdry osprey]

one is ||seth related||

[blissful obsidian]

y’all

[tawdry osprey]

good luck with that one btw

[native turret]

guh

how many encounters does he have

[tawdry osprey]

well the clue is ||find seth||

[unreal hedge]

as someone who mains it, imo it works fine
||the main explicit downside or sidegrade is that the ability is sacrificed for one more tool slot||

[tawdry osprey]

final encounter will be at ||fleatopia|| if you did all others

[native turret]

I got 2

[tawdry osprey]

which ones

[digital haven]

this was NOT a grand hunt

[native turret]

||greymoor and woods||

[tawdry osprey]

||grand gate next||

[native turret]

aighty

[unreal hedge]

||you should have gotten used to diagonal pogoing from the initial Hunter crest gameplay smh ||

[native turret]

also I got 3 more ||spool fragments|| to find

[unreal hedge]

also ||architect's charge attack is amazing, probably the best of all the crests (besides maybe the one I didn't get yet)||

[tawdry osprey]

prob best one tbh

insane damage

[native turret]

also am I ever gonna get another merchant
I have a little bit of money

like yea I know there is the ||money shooting gun||

[tawdry osprey]

you probably dont have anytgung eft

[native turret]

but shopping

dam

[digital haven]

fun fact btw
i broke my statuette

[native turret]

so sad

[hardy jolt]

[native turret]

I felt bad after breaking the bridge

[hardy jolt]

why would you do something so evil

[tawdry osprey]

ill always protect mine

[digital robin]

I finished my Speedrun in 4:30h (I needed to use reload backup since GMS with low HP was a bit too much XD)

[digital haven]

wasnt intentional

it was right after i got it

[hardy jolt]

oh

[digital haven]

i left my controller upside down

on my desk

and a pen was right under the X button

[unreal hedge]

how the fuck do you get so much money!!! I explored Pharloom so much in act 2 and I still lacked rosaries for so many purchases

[native turret]

so after I bought everything I got 2k more just in case one of the merchants was gonna whip out new stock

[digital robin]

Do you lose rosaries on death?

[native turret]

and then idk, progressed to a3 and it started growing

I lost 1k once

I think the game felt bad and now it just keeps giving me more

[unreal hedge]

no

[digital robin]

||A few boss runbacks have arround 100 rosaries enemies if you take your time to kill most of them, so is +100/attempt ||

[unreal hedge]

I think I only lost the money once, and it was only like 50

[digital robin]

||If you need rosaries in act 2 I like killing the 5 big boys between HH and Songclave (5 x 30 / run)||

it's somewhat challenging so its not a Zzz fest and give a nice ammount, so in 3-5 runs back and forth you get enought for whatever you need

[digital haven]

if im feelin lazy im doing the enemies in ||lost garmond|| area

30 per run and are. useless

[tawdry osprey]

yeah... ||architech crest charge attack + barber bracelet oneshotes||

[hardy jolt]

WAT

I NEEDA TEST THIS

[unreal hedge]

I usually just one-tried the bosses whose routes fit this criterion tbh

[queen trench]

alright new plan I've failed way to many times trying to complete trial of the fool with a nail build so insted I'll try this

[hardy jolt]

[native turret]

oh also I spent like 2 hours farming money before I went to the finale of act2

to buy anything there was

[native turret]

dont see him there

[tawdry osprey]

i forgot a step in the middle then

@hardy jolt might remember

[native turret]

is there an encounter in BS?

[digital haven]

||barber bracelet?||

[native turret]

hehe a step perhaps in ||blasted steps||

[tawdry osprey]

thornring deltarune

[tawdry osprey]

cpuld be

[hardy jolt]

i dont

[digital haven]

||greymoor, shellwood, fleatopia||

[hardy jolt]

theres a chance they go straight to ||fleatopia|| after ||shell and grey||

[native turret]

oh

[tawdry osprey]

oh wow

[native turret]

then thats prob it

[tawdry osprey]

i got one at ||grand gates then fleatopia i think?||

anyways go there and... ||CHECK MINIGAME RECORDS||

[unreal hedge]

I think the sole two bosses that I struggled with instrad of taking 1–3 attempts are (post-game) ||Karmelita and Lost Lace||

[hardy jolt]

||chance as in its not like a % chance but ii dont know and i dont remember seth being at grade gate ||

[digital robin]

4:29 any% speedrun, where sometimes I reloaded the start of the split if I got stuck in a boss (3+ deaths: ||Phantom, Trobio, Lace and GMS||). I leave the splits if anyone is curious to compare pacing ||(I also grab wings, nail 2 and a few tools/craftmetal to make it easier, most of the time it takes 10-15min max)||

[native turret]

Im guessing its like with Quirrel where if you progress too much you will miss an encounter

[tawdry osprey]

is this a challenge submission or what so many images

[hardy jolt]

silksong server challenges when

[tawdry osprey]

Prob no on this server

[hardy jolt]

i know not on this server silly

[tawdry osprey]

No they should actually make it here

[digital robin]

<@&821033115911716865>: Beat the game without killing anyone

[unreal hedge]

They should make a pilgrimage for Silksong

[digital robin]

Funny enought is almost possible

[native turret]

based

[tawdry osprey]

Yeah true

[hardy jolt]

wait true it fits so well with the game

[unreal hedge]

Cyan Lizard in skong

[blissful obsidian]

anyone knows where I can find ||memory lockets fast? I need two more to max out architect’s crest||

[tawdry osprey]

@knotty stirrup in silksong

[tawdry osprey]

buy

[digital haven]

do quests

ok so
to finish the game i have uhm. finalest boss and
||savage beastly||

[blissful obsidian]

done all the ||bone bottom, bell hart and citadel quests, I’ve also bought them from the vendors there||

[native turret]

now what

where is my reward for socialising

[digital haven]

go check scores

[native turret]

ah fuck

[tawdry osprey]

look record

and have fun

[native turret]

this bitch

[tawdry osprey]

:3

[digital haven]

now.. reclaim your throne

[tawdry osprey]

now you are at the TRUE lategame

[native turret]

bro destroyed me

[digital haven]

funily enough im so good at skong that i had the all beat before he came in

[tawdry osprey]

i wonder, would they let me be a flea too

[digital robin]

Fun fact in an any% you only need to "kill" ||3|| bosses: ||Tutorial Mossfly boss (kill 1) -> Bellbeast (you pet it, doesn't die) -> [Lace 1 + Judge + Morwing] can be skiped with caravan (Lace 1 also doesn't die) -> Sister splinter (kill 2) -> Widow (gets absorved so it's kinda alive) -> Phantom (kill 3) -> Trobio 1 (Doesn't die) -> Lace 2 (Doesn't die) -> GMS (also absorved / save gets reloaded anyways)||

[hollow laurel]

No way

[native turret]

I think they would

[unreal hedge]

||how can you pet the bell beast ||

[digital robin]

Spoilers

Also is a joke about Massive mosscharger not being a boss that you kill, instead you just gently pet its head until it goes away

[unreal hedge]

||Trobbio pretends to be dead, i think it counts ||

[digital haven]

confirmed by team cherry, its shell is so thick hitting it is like petting and it likes it

[digital haven]

||pretending isnt being dead though||

[mellow sigil]

||I first tried first beastfly encounter I thought it will be harder||

the second one will probably destroy me

[unreal hedge]

||i spent a few minutes just running back and forth into the arena after beating them because ir was funny||

[digital haven]

do i have to do both || beastfly|| for the crest?

[hardy jolt]

nuh

[digital robin]

||The problem that most people have is that they do that area at the start of the game, maybe without any upgrade and then is super hard. But if you do late game is just a silk managment of dealing with spawns and dodgin the obvious attacks (the 2nd is far worse since it likes to go offscreen so no telegraph for you)||

[mellow sigil]

hehehehehhehhh the ||beast crest|| is so silly

||Hornet has that WOLF in her🔥🔥🔥🐺 🐺 ⛓️ ||

[queen trench]

alright time to try that again

[mellow sigil]

||the downwards attack is insane though how do you even use that||

[queen trench]

this time I'm just going to sit here forever and let my weavers do the work||/j||

[blissful obsidian]

which colo is it

assuming it’s 3 cause of the soul vessels

and masks

[clever furnace]

Would you look at that, silksong! /silly -Wren

[opal totem]

||You stop treating it like a downwards attack and use it as horizontal||

[queen trench]

perfect

[queen trench]

3

shit

this always happens

I died again, you know what, I'm going to take glowing womb and grimmkin with me

maybe that'll work

[tawdry osprey]

you are going to take... glowing... womb...

[queen trench]

mmyes

maybe not the smartest idea I know

[digital robin]

GW is a bad idea

you can't get soul if you stall

[queen trench]

but that just means I have to dodge stuff instead of relying on healing

[digital robin]

spiders and Grimm is better

[queen trench]

grubsong plus weaversong

[unreal hedge]

main menu storage in HK is fucked, you could transport crystal peak environmental hazards into the final boss room to quickly kill it that way
i hope silksong has similarly insane glitches

[digital robin]

||I find interesting how a OOB trick to pushing 1 lever is all that is need to skip 95% of act 2||

[queen trench]

what one notch charm could be good in this build?

[hardy jolt]

COMPASSS

[queen trench]

no

[digital robin]

Thorns is always good

[hardy jolt]

how many notches is nailmasters glory again

[digital robin]

1

[unreal hedge]

||using the terminus lift location?||

[hardy jolt]

i'd say use that then

[digital robin]

||Yea, the run uses Phantom so you enter trough the bellway station that has a lift in the middle of the way, so 0 time lost outside grabing a bit of money for it||

[queen trench]

alright let's go my minions

[digital haven]

finally i got all crests

[queen trench]

alright I'll try it without glowing womb this time

this'll be my setup this time

that way I can heal during the i-frames

and I can use spells if necessary

[digital haven]

i need more mem lockets

[queen trench]

i died again

new plan defeat nkg before attempting col 3

[blissful obsidian]

||ascendant’s grip|| is basically just

c-heart wall stalling

but much better

[lusty trout]

hornet remembers them

[unreal hedge]

i wonder how ||seems to survive despite ...|| is intended to be read

||my immediate reading is that they're not actually alive proper and hence only seem to survive, but alternative interpretation is that they only seem to not consuke anything||

[opal totem]

I think it's latter

There's another journal entry talking about the similar thing, ||an abyss bug growing large despite there being nothing to consume||

[digital robin]

||I mean... They grow up in her backyard back in the day when she visited the White Palace||

[opal totem]

First crest let's go

[digital robin]

Btw in case someone wants a Silksong 100% Guide, this is what give +1% (main things to grab):

||- 51 Red/Blue/Yellow tools (and by extension the 8 craftmetal) - 51%

• 6 Silk Spells (Tool + Spells = 57 inventory slots) - 6%
• 5 (x4 shards) extra masks - 5%
• 9 (x2 halfs) extra silk slots - 9%
• 4 pouch upgrades (Tool damage) + 4 craft kits (Amount of tools) - 8%
• 4 nail upgrades (Free one + 3 pail oil) - 4%
• 3 silk hearts (Bell Beast in Act 1 + Lace 2 in Act 2 + White Ward secret boss in Act 2/3) - 3%
• 6 abilities (Charged Attack + Needoline + Claw + Dash + Hook + Vertical Super Jump) - 6%
• 6 crests (Hunter, Hunter 2.0 and Hunter 3.0 don't increase the %) - 6%
• Sylphsong (EVA needs 32 tool slots to be unlocked so you need almost all Crests and Memory Lockets) - 1%
• Everbloom (part of the main quests) - 1%||

Additionaly, to activate the post-game ||(act 3)||, where some items are found, you need to finish ||Silk and Soul|| and to activate that quest you need:
||- Obtain the Double Jump

• Be in Act 2 (you need to reach and defeat the Last Judge or Phantom)
• Defeat Lace 2 (and by extension obtain all 3 melodies)
• Move the Flea Caravan to the Lake (Fleatopia). To do that you need to grab most fleas and visit the lake previously
• Get a Home in Bellhart (finish most of their act 2 quests)
• Do all "Donate Shards/Rosaries" wishes to improve one of the 3 towns
• Complete the following wishes: "Flexible Spines" (farm resources to upgrade Hornet's cloak so it can hover) + "Crawbug Clearing" (farm resources to create the bird Scarecraw in the Tavern) + "Balm for the Wounded" (save Sherma from the White Ward ambush)
• Obtain all Shakra maps (in my experience some maps like Sands of Karak may not be needed) to activate "Trail's End" and finish that Wish.
• Obtain 17 "Quest Points" by doing other wishes (Courier tasks gives 0.5 points). Ignoring Courier task, you need to do 17 out of 21 potential tasks.||

[glad stratus]

Okay so I'm assuming ||double jump|| is unobtainable until I have every mask shard in the game because this ||mount fay|| shit is annoying, I can't go fast enough ||to avoid freezing to death||

[lusty trout]

trying to use ||witch crest||

|| i swear i got used to normal healing||

[tawdry osprey]

you can easily do it with 5

[glad stratus]

I'm not fast enough

[tawdry osprey]

every mask will give you 1 second more, i dont think it will help that much

[dim harbor]

when i stop trying to be fancy she dies in one try, but tbf i did get to phase 3 with mostly parrying but its kinda inconsistant

[glad stratus]

This shit is literally impossible

Doubt there's a tool for ||resistance against freezing damage|| that isn't unlocked before ||mount fay||

[digital robin]

You have enought time to not be hurt

||if you fail 1 jump go back to the last heat source, if not you will take damage usually (some segments are more forgiving)||

||also Hook is faster than dash/pogo most of the time, if you have low silk you can try to farm 1 enemy near a heat source||

[glad stratus]

I can't reach a heat source before freezing to death, I suck at the parkour of this game

[digital robin]

Which crest are you using?

[glad stratus]

||Reaper||

I'm sure the "silk-gaining crest" is useful for the park where you have to use silk alot

[digital robin]

||This mountain climb is mainly using hook on enemies / walls, and jumping + hooking in spike tunnels, unless you say what thing gatekeeps you I can't give a better advice||

[digital robin]

You can try to grab a ||2nd silk core to have 2 hooks at all times||

[glad stratus]

Not being fast enough to reach a heatsource

[digital robin]

||Like I said if you just hook / pogo each wall/enemy 1st try you are usually able to reach on time (at most you get 1 mask damage)||

if you miss it and have to try again is when you start having problems, nerves kick in and you are screwed

so going back to safety is best

[mellow sigil]

isnt there a special interaction with ||lifeblood injections that give you hiveblood is you overuse them||

[digital robin]

||Yes, if you get ¿10? masks something happens||

[mellow sigil]

||this could help I think but I dunno how to uh
get enough to overdose??||

[digital robin]

There is only 2 methods (bench reset masks)

one is super situational and not really useful, the other is a particular crest

[mellow sigil]

ah

tbh I didnt struggle with ||mount fay|| at all, you just need to be more precise with your movement

to not slow yourself down obv

and maybe??? use ||the wanderer's crest||??? but it wouldn't help too much would it

[glad stratus]

Take any damage in ||mount fay|| and ur fucked

[mellow sigil]

thats just what I am a FILTHY ||wanderer's crest|| user

[glad stratus]

You gotta no-hit the Entire thing

You must be Perfect.

[glad stratus]

Is this even possible?

[mellow sigil]

not at all lol you just need to be faster

[glad stratus]

That'd be cool if someone did that

[digital robin]

I did it first time on a speedrun in 15 min

with base mask and silkmeter btw

[mellow sigil]

its shrimple as that

[glad stratus]

Someone do that, someone beat ||mount fay|| without taking damage that'd be fun to watch if it hasn't been done already

[digital robin]

you need to be moving at all time, understanding WHERE you are ment to go and spamming ||hook|| when you can

If you take a fall/linger too much time on the air after a failed grab is when you may consider going back down to safety, but if you are capable of parkouring arround is not too bad

Can you post a map of what part are you dying to?

to see what the problem is, or are you just dying everywhere (not enought consistency) and simply can't reach benches in time

[mellow sigil]

the only thing that was a lil troublesome are ||cold lakes|| they basically instakill you but after you die a few times to them you already know where to throw ||hook|| and such and they're not troublesome

also in the latest stage theres a place where you can farm ||silk a lil and heal:P||

though theres a bench near it anyway

[digital robin]

||any spot with flying creatures near warm is a nice spot to heal, also tunnels tend to have silk to heal you to full before drone fights||

[dim harbor]

how long is ||grand mother silk, cause i am thinking whether i should get more upgrades||

[digital robin]

||Today I did GMS while speedruning. It's a bit tought but as long as you feel confortable with your nail damage and mask count it's arround Lace 2 difficulty (maybe easier)||

[dim harbor]

i am absolutely not comfortable with my ||mask amount, and nail damage maybe? extremly hard to tell, but fair, lace 2 seemed easy enough for me when i stopped being fancy with parrying||

[digital robin]

||GMS most dangerous attack is horizontal spear since you need to deal with it all the time and sometimes is offscreen. I did it with 5 mask and there you basically need to heal after each hit. I think with 7 or so you should be fine. How many nail upgrades did you got already?||

[dim harbor]

sent my whole build on my first playthrough so far

[glad stratus]

Jesus fucking Christ

I feel all the way back to the start

That happens a lot in this game

[digital robin]

||How many masks? I see you can get a pretty useful thing or 2, so explore a bit and maybe you will find it. It will definetly help quite a bit||

[dim harbor]

max ? 5

[void prawn]

||any crests in act 1 I missed so far I have hunter|| ||upgraded|| ||reaper beast wanderer all base form||

[glad stratus]

I give up

Im never gonna achive ||double jump|| and I'm sure that's required to beat the game so

[glad stratus]

No I don't think so

[void prawn]

[glad stratus]

[digital robin]

Yea, get more. There is no rush to finish this. Just do sidequests and explore the map to find useful stuff, also where did you get the only ||silkheart|| by now you should have 2 ||(Lace give you the 2nd one usually)||

[void prawn]

I completely missed ||wanderer and beast|| until act 2 ||i got beast when I left the slab|| and ||i got wanderer after cogwork dancers||

[digital robin]

Nope, ||act 2 has 2|| new ones, but you have all the act 1 ones

[void prawn]

||without directly telling me could you point me in the right direction rn idk where to go at cogwork core||

[dim harbor]

||idk somewhere at the start? maybe it is from lace? and i kinda just kept going as there was no real trouble i explored a bit but for anything too useful did nto have enough money so i kept going then i was questioning how far i can go, and well here i am||

[glad stratus]

Oh my god you do need ||double jump|| to finish the game because you need the use it to get to ||the melody at the top of cogwork core||.... Damn it :(

[digital robin]

||Did you explored the left side of Cogwork or the right side (there are 2 entrances to the dancers)?||

[dim harbor]

||if this boss has similiar amount of hp, i believe i can make it further tho, i am only worried a bit due to the 3 mask attack as thats bloody brutal||

[void prawn]

||there isn't two as one is blocked off|| also ||cogwork core after the dancers so far I opened the door to the right of the main entrance and that's all||

[queen trench]

hell yeah!

I finally won

[dim harbor]

good job

[void prawn]

Oh you aren't gonna like what's next

[digital robin]

Speedruners skip it

[glad stratus]

Im not a speedrunner

[digital robin]

but you need to be good at parkour ||(and hook)|| which is the reason you don't have it so...

[glad stratus]

I'm never beating the game :D

[dim harbor]

you need ||double jump to get that melody???
i got it without||

[glad stratus]

To make it easier yeah

Howd you get it?

[dim harbor]

i just poggod and used the ||hook||

[void prawn]

I don't even have ||hook or double jump|| yet

[glad stratus]

Pogoed off what?

[queen trench]

what? but I did that without ||double jump||

[dim harbor]

||the cogs? the spikes, literally anything tbh||

[queen trench]

path of pain enjoyer here

if you did it without the ||hook||

[dim harbor]

||i did do it with the hook, just no double jump||

and i am meh about pop it hurt me so much

[queen trench]

ah alright

with ||hook|| it's pretty damn doable

[void prawn]

||where does one get the hook/double jump (either or)||

[dim harbor]

i thought it was required tbh

[queen trench]

act 2

[void prawn]

Wowza that's so specific thank you/nm

[dim harbor]

isn t ||hook even needed to enter that area? for that melody?||

[queen trench]

I'm pretty sure ||hook|| is required yeah, but there might be some skip or something

[dim harbor]

i mean probably, but the door

[queen trench]

explore! answer: ||hook in underworks, double jump on mount fay||

[queen trench]

oob?

[void prawn]

Thank you

[dim harbor]

maybe? idk how easy that would be in that area, i mean i did that once on accident but still

[lusty trout]

i hope they will be alright

[queen trench]

idrk either but it's just an idea as to how that could be done

[dim harbor]

fair

well that prob will be found in low% if anywhere

[lusty trout]

is it me or || kratt changed a bit after hornet slapped him||

[digital robin]

||Hook is in Underworks||

[tawdry osprey]

Silk song challenge: beat the game in 10 mins

[opaque shard]

They did manage to beat hk in like 3 mins wouldnt suprise me

[dim harbor]

well i just beat gms ass, that was easy as heck

will be honest i am a bit disappoitned with that boss with how easy it was, ||and i even first tried phase 2||

[tawdry osprey]

Yeah it’s just very easy

You might want to go for other endings now

[opaque shard]

theres more

[dim harbor]

oh i will, but comoon that easy with basiclly base kit?

[tawdry osprey]

Yeah… I know it sucks but ||I think the final boss being easy was necessary for… something, yeah||

Don’t worry if you wanted a challenge you’ll get one later

Just keep playing for now and ig you want any clues on what to do ask

[dim harbor]

probably, but still, thk did more of an impression on me

[tawdry osprey]

I guess but you can’t say that one was much harder anyways lol

Just team cherry things

[queen trench]

omg hive knight was shredded so fast I feel bad for them

[dim harbor]

yeah

[queen trench]

30 ish minutes actually

30 minutes and 49 seconds is the wr

[opaque shard]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mutqozaRtEI&pp=ygUTaG9sbG93IGtuaWdodCA1IG1pbg%3D%3D

And thats the former wr 💀

[queen trench]

ohhh I see all glitches

[foggy grotto]

why does it lie to me

taunting

[queen trench]

all grubs yay!

[opaque shard]

You need to enter from somewhere else and exit there ;}

It does look stupid on the map tho tbh lol

[carmine crypt]

||seth|| is such a hard boss

[foggy grotto]

||I assume I enter with apostate key? If so, is that something I should care about obtaining right now? I think I've filled in most of the map, aside from some bilewater stuff||

❌ to the first or second part?

[carmine crypt]

finally

i guess the strat was ignore the audio queues

cause that was messing me u

[queen trench]

how are you meant to learn about dream bosses in hollow knight? the ones that you can enter via a boss's corpse

[foggy grotto]

the game tells you to find and kill them after getting the dream nail

[carmine crypt]

guess i found the worst boss in the game to fight

[native turret]

you enter ||not with a key, look around the region more||
||the key is not super significant, for completion it is but you dont have to worry too much about it||

[carmine crypt]

were they smoking crack when developing ||nyleth||???

[foggy grotto]

[carmine crypt]

||NO FLOORS????||

"subtle glare effect"

[native turret]

you bump into at least one of their corpses and see that it has dream glowy particle thingies so you use the dream nail and yea

it's very easy to bump into at least one by accident

especially broken vessel

tho I personally learned about it from false knight

[queen trench]

my setup for emptying out spirit's glade

[opaque shard]

I mean bv has dream particels around it and seer literally tells you to dream nail random shit around

[queen trench]

I think I'll try this instead

[carmine crypt]

i seriously doubt theres a boss harder than ||nyleph||

this is hell

i would rather no hit ||any radiance|| than fight this

fucking finally dude

[queen trench]

[digital haven]

||its the other heart||

[carmine crypt]

the one with the ||4 gauntlets or karmelita?||

[digital haven]

latter

[carmine crypt]

||idk man ive only tried her twice and got her to her second phase i think i got it if i keep trying but first imma get my nail upgraded cause apparentally im missing 2 upgrades||

[digital haven]

the one youre fighting is just

poh

pogo

pogo

pogo

[carmine crypt]

yeah but like

its still hard

with all those fuckass projectile

s

[opaque shard]

Which state ur needle is in?

[carmine crypt]

||shining i need the pickled muckmaggot (i forgot about the quest after entering act 3 icl) and now im getting all fleas to get the quest for the other oil||

[opaque shard]

Kk and how may masks do you have?

[carmine crypt]

i just got my ||last flea||

[carmine crypt]

9

[opaque shard]

The max amount is ||10||

[carmine crypt]

hmmm

i'll explore ig

first though imma go check in with the ||fleas||

[digital haven]

i did her with 6 masks ||reaper crest|| ||hivesteel needle|| and a 2l bottle of coke

you just gotta, yknow

get good

[queen trench]

gut gid

as they say

[icy basin]

guys do yall think ima make it to the end in an hour

(||conductor is the last melody needed||)

[icy basin]

that's evil

[digital robin]

||I got my last melody in 3:41, and 1st tried HH arena in arround 5 min||

[icy basin]

oh damn

how many mask shard/spool

[digital robin]

None

[icy basin]

o ok

what tools

and silk skill

if you say "no tool and silkspear" you're officially a god at this game 😭

[digital robin]

||Powers: Nail 2 and Wings also the threadstorm spell (I like it more for Arena).
Tools: The bell (is easy to get before last judge), the tools poison (useful for arena), the sprint ankles, (only for Mother since Terminus has a free TP back to bellway anyways) and the Cogfly, Spikes and Ground Saw (I got 3 easy to acces craftmetal)||

||There is also a way to destroy the annoying silk spiderbots, it may not save time but makes it easier||

[icy basin]

you have ||wings||?????

[digital robin]

||It takes 15 min to go from HH arena to the top of the mountain and teleport back (if you buy a few fast travel spots)||

[icy basin]

damn

[digital robin]

||Keep in mind I savescummed a bit with the backup function that gets you checkpoints (you can reset if you die a lot to some bosses, specially after grabing a melody or powerup)||

[icy basin]

lol

[digital robin]

||That way you can practice a boss and THEN fight it for real in a quicker way (no deaths)||

Amazing, someone that didn't even played ||Act 2 discovered a "bug" to get a jump similarly to a doublejump before even knowing if doublejump exists (with beast crest charged attack + claw)||

[queen trench]

creepy eyes in the background

[digital haven]

@oak swift ||GREYMOOR??? MOORWING?? MOORBUGS???||

[oak swift]

Sorry, but there are indeed ||Moor bugs||

[digital haven]

exactly

moo is in silksong

[oak swift]

Oh fuck your right

💥

[digital haven]

smh

[oak swift]

Tbh it has been awhile since I did that lol

[digital haven]

||greymooy||

[oak swift]

[digital haven]

i hit my throat earlier if i was that mouse id become a glowstick

[lyric geode]

how many masks can you get in ||act 2||

[oak swift]

All I think? (Also Soiler ||Act 2||)

[opaque shard]

I think theres some locked behind ||act 3||

[oak swift]

Ohhh gotcha

I dunno I got all of mine in that one lol

[lusty trout]

There are indeed locked behind || act 3||

Just 2 more || fragments of mask and spools and i have maxed out both of them ||

[opaque shard]

Well the max is ||10|| 🧐

[oak swift]

I know that, I just got all of my masks ||act 3||

[oak swift]

Gotcha

[barren ingot]

||I went all the way over there with maggots at first and they just brushed me off smh||

||although it has custom dialogue to account for that!||

[opaque shard]

||Apperantly they have dialogue for lifeblood too||

[barren ingot]

anyone else found this cool room? (postgame CC area )

[icy basin]

I CANT

oh wait i can reload save

[hollow laurel]

Yeah

[tawdry osprey]

No, where is that=

[barren ingot]

||use the super jump in the bottom right room of CC||

[tawdry osprey]

every single time i think ive seen everything in this game i find something new wow

[tawdry osprey]

yeah makes sense ||i didnt check that room even once after getting the jump||

[barren ingot]

ooooo I just found an exploit!

||If you use the super jump right on the very edge of a block, you launch way past it to the top of the room||

[icy basin]

oh i did it immediately after

||apparently the best way to do this part is to focus solely on one of them lol||

[full vale]

hey chat, can you get ||witch's crest in chapter 3|| and if yes, how?

[opaque shard]

Just do it normally

[full vale]

NOOO ||OVERDOSE|| ISN'T PERMANENT

[full vale]

yeah idk how to do it normally

[digital robin]

Bruh I already told you XD

[opaque shard]

Remember the ||locked bellhouse in greymoore?||

[full vale]

no...?

[opaque shard]

Did you get the ||curse?||

[digital robin]

||He is talking about GETTING the thing||

[icy basin]

lol

[full vale]

no???

[opaque shard]

I mean yeah you need to still get ||cursed|| first

[digital robin]

Go to ||Wormland (Bile Water)||, there is an exclusive area with a weird item that you can acces trough the ||Church area||

[full vale]

NOOOO

FUCK

i am NOT getting it rn i am NOT going back to that place no way NO WAY

[icy basin]

lmao second try

[digital robin]

GG

getting up here is a checkpoint but ||Lace|| defeat is not

[icy basin]

damn lol

[digital robin]

Getting ||wings|| is a checkpoint still, how many time do you have left? XD

[icy basin]

an hour...

[full vale]

okayyy.... uhm, where's the ||church||

[digital robin]

||It's 15 min and will help a lot to dodge the double coweb attack||

[icy basin]

damn

[sudden plover]

Ahem...

ACT TWO!?!?

[digital robin]

||The fact that the game starts with "Act 1: Farloom" implies the existence of Act 2||, indeed

[full vale]

where's the ||CHURCH|| 😭

[sudden plover]

I missed that

[digital robin]

It's called ||wisper vault|| or something like that in ||the citadel||

[full vale]

i mean the place where you get the ||curse||

isn't that the ||church||

[digital robin]

||"The church" is the whispering vaults area, you can find a hidden exit on the right side||

[full vale]

oh

what about the ||curse||

is it it

the same thing

[digital robin]

||you find that exit and you fall into bilewater worm lakes, eventually finding a lever that opens a gate that gets you near the bellstation. Before that door there is a few breakable walls that get the item you need to get the curse||

[icy basin]

btw i just beat her

[digital robin]

Congrats

Now do ||Cursed ending ||

[icy basin]

yayyyy

[full vale]

ohhh (i d0on't get what you mean but i'll pretend i do)

[digital robin]

Fun fact, I have to do that next

[sudden plover]

...

||DID THAT BENCH JUST FUCKING LEAVE||

[digital robin]

maybe I share map tomorrow or something

[digital robin]

Enjoy becoming an AMAZON WORKER™

[icy basin]

lol gg

ah yes, 4h20m 😭

[mellow sigil]

its kinda funny that the achievement is simply called speedrunner

[sudden plover]

||i talked to the confession thing. Do they really tell their workers "yeah you sinned now starve yourself bro lmao"||

[mellow sigil]

no fancy names that suit the lore and vibes .....

[icy basin]

yea lol

[full vale]

is there any advice for the stupid, dumb ||coral tower|| arenas

[digital robin]

"Yea you talked a bit too much with Worker 2304-B (it's next to you for 10h straight)... We believe you are breaking your contract by trying to form an union, a new WHY UNIONS ARE BAD course will be assigned to you, to prevent futher blunders"

I love that area "social comentary", such a cool lore and so easy to find (unlike some other parts)

[sudden plover]

Im hoping this isn't actual dialogue in game I already feel bad for these employees

[digital robin]

Naaa, that is a real Amazon email (more or less)

[mellow sigil]

ofc it is did you know that the word amazon is directly said in silksong

trust

[digital robin]

they are famous for being super weird with their workers

[sudden plover]

:(

[digital robin]

But I agree, poor workers

[mellow sigil]

I just saw an amazon union busting vid today its absolutely insane

they literally say that they're not against unions but "arent neutral either"😭what

[digital robin]

Man, I remember when industry education videos where fun things like the Forklift certified safety "horror-comedy short-movie". Those where the days 👴🏻

[broken plover]

If you press alt + f4 you'll get 1000 rosaries trust

[sudden plover]

||is the wanderers crest just the knights play style with the short swings and downswing?||

[digital robin]

||Yea, is HK moveset + Quickslah but bad range||

[mellow sigil]

thats not how you do it

[digital robin]

If you have 1000 rosaries and are about to die you can do it XD

[broken plover]

That IS how you do it /j

Trust my cousin filbert did it and hes practically swimming in rosaries

[mellow sigil]

if you ||find a twisted bud in bilewater you should bring it to the vine lady in shellwood
she will give you 1000 rosaries!|| [true] [free] [100% legit]

[broken plover]

Wow I got so many from this method thank you dearly

[hardy jolt]

shaw

[mellow sigil]

I cant get ||Bilewater|| soundtrack out of my head its so good

[icy basin]

that ost fits ||bilewater|| so well ngl

[icy basin]

wow what a steal

[potent skiff]

honestly kept reminding me of the ori soundtrack a little

[icy basin]

||i have a really ominous feeling about it but surely she wont bite right????||

[split sluice]

(Heavy act 3 spoilers) ||I BEAT LOST LACE!!!!!||

[hardy jolt]

[split sluice]

Such a hard fight omg…

[hardy jolt]

||now time for lost gms /silly|||

[split sluice]

||also that ending motif… I really want a third game now with both the knight and hornet playable||

[split sluice]

SHHHHH…. Don’t give the godmaster DLC ideas (/silly)

[hardy jolt]

that would be kinda awesome tbh

||a pantheon where all the bosses are voided/lost||

[split sluice]

||Wait what if the entire idea of the godmaster equivalent is that it’s tied to the void in some way||

[hardy jolt]

yesss

[split sluice]

||Like it’s the void trying to find a primary ‘host’ through memories, eventually settling on GMS||

[split sluice]

BTW ||I never fought tormented trobbio ||

[hardy jolt]

you shoulddd

[split sluice]

Nuh

Next playthrough

[hardy jolt]

aww

[split sluice]

Which I shall now proceed to start

[hardy jolt]

ender whats ur favorite ||crest|| out of curiosity

[split sluice]

||wanderer||

[hardy jolt]

based

[split sluice]

||it’s very similar to HK but with vroom||

||I need the needle range tool first though before it really gets good||

||I wonder if Hornet’s weakness in the moss grotto is partially due to the presence of the void in pharloom||

[hardy jolt]

||i think its just cus she fell from very far :<||

||she would be dying in the abyss if it was cus of the void ||

[hollow laurel]

||wasnt it because her powers were sealed for too long ||

[icy basin]

nah its cuz of period cramps

[hollow laurel]

true

[mental shuttle]

Feel free to shoot me for my idea
Is ||phantom|| an old/failed iteration of ||lace||

[hollow laurel]

i think?

[mental shuttle]

The design similarities are there
And reading the journal entries

[hardy jolt]

||i dont think shes an iteration of lace i think they're just different people made of silk||

||if you go to a certain room in the exhaust organ too with the web and use needolin you can hear dialog of lace and she calls phantom "sister"||

[mental shuttle]

The similarities!!!!!
The fighting style!!!!

[hardy jolt]

||so while they are very similar i doubt they were meant to be the same person/one is a failed version OF lace||

[gray horizon]

||i'm in early act III, is there a way to unlock that locked door in deep docks?||

[hollow laurel]

||the simple one?||

[gray horizon]

this thing

[opal totem]

From the other side

[hollow laurel]

oh that, yeah you can in act 1 i believe

[gray horizon]

k but the other side looks locked as well

[hollow laurel]

shouldnt be

[hardy jolt]

yall think theres a stallball here /silly

[gray horizon]

oh no wait im dumb

nvm

[sudden plover]

Are act 1 areas locked away once you reach act 2?

[gray horizon]

nope

jesus i should have done ||forgebrothers in act 2||

[hollow laurel]

ok new least favorite fight

[slim fjord]

nnope

[barren ingot]

today I progressed from 86 to 94%

I bet I can finish tomorrow if everything goes well 🤔

[void prawn]

No

Return to 0

[quiet sentinel]

most likely, what's left?

hello ||shaman|| enjoyers

[hardy jolt]

we love ||shaman crest||

[barren ingot]

hard to know what I havent found yet, but there's ||one mask shard and a few creatures for the journal at least||

[quiet sentinel]

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

ill help you out by stating that ||journal is not required, only the original wish for it||

[hollow laurel]

||im struggling with that green area so i gave up||

[quiet sentinel]

we need paws in silksong

[hardy jolt]

[quiet sentinel]

petting bell beast

[hardy jolt]

i agree

||wheres the crest where hornets needle turns into paws||

[hollow laurel]

dlc

[quiet sentinel]

closest she can have is claws :3

[hardy jolt]

[mental shuttle]

CRAZY FUCKING ENDING HOLY SHITTTT

[quiet sentinel]

3 more...

[mental shuttle]

Holy shit

||meat quest|| was piss easy

That was it???

I still had 2 ½ pips left

[quiet sentinel]

DONE WITH THE JOURNAL

[mental shuttle]

LMAO

Fuck i still need to do the journal

[wide ledge]

i really love the vibe of (post-game stuff)|| the surface|| in silksong

[weary stag]

||so what happens if I leave one of the main hearts untaken||

||the coral guy is the only one I haven’t killed, and I progressed by killing clover dancers instead||

[quiet sentinel]

||clover dancer heart is just a memento||

[mental shuttle]

No
Its whatever you do last (after giving them for the main quest)

If you give all 4
It defaults to ||clover dancer||

[weary stag]

||so what happens||

||is the coral guy’s heart locked off now to nah||

[quiet sentinel]

?

[hardy jolt]

||nah you can still do it :3|||

[quiet sentinel]

is that actually how it works

[hardy jolt]

ya

[glad stratus]

Current progress on ||mount fay:|| I reached the 2nd checkpoint (cost 60 rosaries but we power through that) and got the ||memory crystal|| which looks pretty sweet

[hardy jolt]

[mental shuttle]

||Say you beat
karmelita, nyleth, and dancers, and give them to the snails, when you get khanns heart, that becomes the memento||

[glad stratus]

I not gonna be able to go back until I beat ||mount fay||

[quiet sentinel]

huh

[glad stratus]

Overall, I do not like this part of the game :(

I don't see why people say "Play HK before SS" while yes at their cores they are very similar. These 2 games are much different from one another, with SS being more punishing and faster and with a focus on chaining attacks
Whereas HK is slower, but still punishing, (especially if you want to heal during a boss) really the only thing I can see helping you by beating HK first is help with some parkour mechanics and some combat mechanics

(This is all just my view from personal playthroughs I have beat neither game just yet)

[mental shuttle]

Story

[glad stratus]

Ah

That's true

[barren ingot]

I dont think you necessarily need to play hk before ss, but it certainly helps in a lot of small ways

[glad stratus]

Do you think peanut could beat hornet in a fight?

[void prawn]

Hmmmmmmmm

[barren ingot]

yes, peanut would be the size of the entire screen

[void prawn]

Would peanut do double damage

[glad stratus]

He would do negative triple damage

[void prawn]

So he heals

[glad stratus]

Heal too much the game freaks out and you die

So yes he wins

[hardy jolt]

yes :3

peanut solos

[void prawn]

Is there any traps in the arena

[glad stratus]

The looming fear of eventually reaching the integer limit..

[void prawn]

So that would deal like 4 dmg

[opal totem]

Do we still not know ||how exactly getting upgrades from Eva|| works

[glad stratus]

Every attack it goes down by -3..

(Like -3 -6 -12 etc etc)

[glad stratus]

Wouldn't it be like 2 billion?

[quiet sentinel]

good or bad mood

[void prawn]

Well hornets mind is built diffrent

[weary stag]

||eva spins the magical weaver roulette table that’s 2 pixels offscreen||

[glad stratus]

Thoughts on bosses I've beat (that I remember and in no particular order)
||Moss mother: it's the first boss. It's kinda boring
Fourth chorus: the best boss in the ENTIRE game no boss has come close
last judge: . . .
Lace: Fuck this was so cool..
Savage beastfly: not as hard as everyone made it out to be.
Skarrgard: Hell no.
Cogwork dancers: Absolutely BEAUTIFUL||

[weary stag]

||ok so, I’ve gotten 3 hearts and don’t know how to reenter the abyss, is there any content I can do before hand that I should check out? Give me vague locations of said content.||

||I’ve already done the surface||

[mellow sigil]

||first savage beastfly is easy but have you beat second savage beastfly yet||

[hardy jolt]

nooooooooo dont tell them

[quiet sentinel]

dont tell them about the ||3rd savage beastfly||

[opal totem]

Big ||flea|| lmfao

[mental shuttle]

Boss tierlist (so far)
No particular order inside tiers

Feel free to shoot me or whatever

Wtf ||lugoli|| is supped to be in E

Some of these i lowkey just put them in a random tier because I forgot

[hardy jolt]

pretty good tier list :3

[mental shuttle]

Also while we're at it
Area tier list

Oh wait wtf ||the abyss|| isnt listed

Ill put that in good tier

[quiet sentinel]

||lost lace is || SUCH A GOOD FIGHT

holy shit

and the phase 2 where ||gms lets go off the cocoon to keep her alive||

[mental shuttle]

The ending of the fight is so good 😭

The final phase was a little chaotic but its cool

[quiet sentinel]

i still havent beaten it but im making good progress into the 2nd phase

[mental shuttle]

I beat the game at 56 or so hours

And only 85% or so completion

💔

I thought I only had a few things left wtf

[quiet sentinel]

the ending???? holy fucking shit

:)

just the last 4 left

[hardy jolt]

[glad stratus]

No

[mental shuttle]

Im never doing these

[hardy jolt]

Das silksong vid lets goo

OH THIS IS THE VIDEO CHIKI COMMENTED ON

#1407386303796088832 message

LMAO

[gray horizon]

silk it up

[mental shuttle]

Cant wait for the mossbag lore video

[quiet sentinel]

hollow knight playthrough gonna go hard with this skin

[quiet sentinel]

4 hours of talking about ||lugoli ass|| and why it matters to the lore

[mental shuttle]

LMAOOO 😭😭😭

That attack threw me off icl

[quiet sentinel]

my bossfight rankings based of my enjoyment, accounting for patterns and arena - a lot of stuff on here i don't even consider a boss so it was a bit awkard to place anywhere but near the bottom

[mental shuttle]

||signis and grom|| in S is INSANE btw

[quiet sentinel]

did you not like them

[mental shuttle]

No

Ill find my tierlist hold on

[quiet sentinel]

one of the most memorable fights in the s tiers for me

its like mantis lords but fire

and i love mantis lords

[mental shuttle]

^

[opal totem]

Nowhere as fast as mantis lords

They kind of feel like they're supposed to be an early game fight

[mental shuttle]

||Dancers|| are more mantis lords

[opal totem]

Eh

[quiet sentinel]

i havent played hk in years but they feel faster than lords

[mental shuttle]

How's my ranking :3

[quiet sentinel]

lords i can do with my eyes closed

(ive literally done it blindfolded thats the joke)

i will look at your rankings now

what is it based on'

difficulty?

[mental shuttle]

I took everything into account

[carmine crypt]

not them again..

WHY

i don wanna do this again

[dim harbor]

Thats why i love them

[quiet sentinel]

see someone gets me

[mental shuttle]

My ranking is kinda wack but

Yea

[quiet sentinel]

its funny seeing peoples different reactions to seeing ||hallownest content in red memory||

i was bawling my eyes out the entire sequence with the music soaring and everything

others are like not the fuckers again

[mental shuttle]

Also my ranking for areas is just below

[carmine crypt]

||path of pain|| took 2 hours of my life

and probably more than that

i dont wanna

see these fucks again

[mental shuttle]

Its taken more than that (ive done it multiple times for funsies)

[quiet sentinel]

yea this is a tasteful list

shame you didnt enjoy the brothers

i love dual bosses in my games

if theyre done right

[quiet sentinel]

fair

[mental shuttle]

Freide and ariandel ❤️

[dim harbor]

I love me a fast boss fight that feels like a duel rather then a hunt

[quiet sentinel]

i burst into tears the moment ||herrah appeared and hornet trying to remember her face||

[carmine crypt]

OH SHIT THEYRE DEAD??

[mental shuttle]

Time for peak

[carmine crypt]

so im guessing i gotta go back to ||the abyss||

[mental shuttle]

Honestly
||bilewater|| ain't that bad

My eyes have been opened

[carmine crypt]

hmmm so like should i do anything else before going ||into the abyss||?

or can i just do that after

and 100% the game

[mental shuttle]

Feels like a deepnest situation

[mental shuttle]

Get upgrades maybe?

[carmine crypt]

not really because deepnest WAS that bad

[carmine crypt]

ive gotten pretty much everything

[opal totem]

When area designed to be hostile is hostile

[carmine crypt]

||bilewater|| wasnt that bad as an area apart from the runback for that one boss

[mental shuttle]

How it feels to realise deepnest is perfect because it does what its supposed to do 😌

[carmine crypt]

how it feels to realise deepnest is perfect because it does what its supposed to do but im still gonna hate it

[mental shuttle]

Also ||bilewater|| has a fucking GOATED soundtrack

Like

[carmine crypt]

its like dross from tboi

its peam

[mental shuttle]

No

Tge

The soundtrack isnt like that

At all

[carmine crypt]

it is though kinda

it felt similar

[opal totem]

Idk dross soundtrack is barely memorable

Downpour is better

[mental shuttle]

BW soundtrack is awesomr

[opal totem]

It doesn't really fit the area

[mental shuttle]

The vocals

[quiet sentinel]

ori vocals

[carmine crypt]

i liked dross maybe im remembering them wrong

[mental shuttle]

Feels like a song from ori

[carmine crypt]

cause i haven't played tboi in a while

[mental shuttle]

DUEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE

Sorry im evil

[carmine crypt]

oh yeah i was being a dumbass

its downpour

that kinda sounds

similar

[mental shuttle]

It sounds like neither 😭

[clever furnace]

Any guide you used?

[mental shuttle]

"Our hate is forever"
Metal fucking line btw

[carmine crypt]

the final boss is just ||lace but black||

and ||void or whatever||

this is

dissapointing a bit

[clever furnace]

Yeah I was gutted esp with hollow knights “true boss”

||Thought we were going to fight the actual void ||

[hardy jolt]

love how this game has ||soul totems that you need to buy|| its so peak

[wide ledge]

notice how every lace is in f tier? thats because she sucks ass exactly

[carmine crypt]

||why does lost lace deal 2 contact damage this is stupid||

[wide ledge]

||shes VOID thats why EVERYTHING does 2 mask damage||

[quiet sentinel]

but i didnt put them in f tier though

[wide ledge]

notice how every boss is in f tier

[carmine crypt]

most of the damage im taking is the contact damage

for ever move i get hit by ive gotten contact damage 5 times

[quiet sentinel]

once you learn the patterns, ||lost lace|| is probably one of the most predictable / possible to master bosses in the game

on my winning attempt i got hit twice over the entire fight, and only because ||i failed to see certain windups behind the tentacle columns||

contact damage is your punishment for not learning where she will land

theres no rng involved with her move kit, you can manipulate her very easily

||dash windup? 2 dashes, in the air? shell spin at you then slam, otherwise an extra dash, hit the parry? always jump and time the move away, ect ect||

her attacks always happen exactly the same

tldr skill issue

[opal totem]

I still have no idea how to read jump slash

Everything else is predictable

[quiet sentinel]

you dont

it has the same windup as triple slashes

so you just jump in place, not at her, or shell catch you

if you jump in place and mistook it for a jump slash, shell go over you and you can dash away from her

[opal totem]

Well fuck this attack then

[quiet sentinel]

its the same concept as her riposte

both her parry animations* are exactly the same, but you can use 1 answer to make sure you avoid both possible ripostes

which for me was just to jump, if its a horizontal, just downslash and carry , if its a diagonal, dash away then dash back in for a hit or 2 if you're lucky

ngl ||shaman|| is crazy for her

the range of the slash is actually game changing

i was just spamming ||homing needles|| and smacking her from across the room

its great

didnt touch my 2 other skills at all 😭

which feels like a waste but oh well

people sleeping on ||longclaw shaman||

thats all imma say

[carmine crypt]

so parrying is just fucking useless for this

i parry just to get into a 4 mask combo

nice

i love getting read like a book

[quiet sentinel]

the opposite

parrying her jump slashes is a really wide timing

you can do it 100% of the time no issues

you shouldnt try to parry any other attack though

[native turret]

but when parry hits 🥹 (not my gameplay) (also very late act 2 spoilers)

[quiet sentinel]

there are safer methods of avoiding them

[opal totem]

Why

It doesn't increase projectile range

[quiet sentinel]

the nail and projectile are 2 different hitboxes

the projectile actually gives you knockback

[hardy jolt]

this looks like a yomi hustle match

[quiet sentinel]

being able to land the nail as well almost doubles the dmg output (idk how much the actual numbers are)

otherwise without it your pogos are just gonna be the projectile

[opal totem]

I'm almost never in the needle range

[quiet sentinel]

it also just makes parrying what i mentioned easier

since its the actual needle that does the parry

i mean like its either that or fast bind

and when you get good you dont need to heal

idk what else youd use on that crest

flea sucks butt

[opal totem]

It's always fast bind

[quiet sentinel]

fair

im not stopping you, just saying that the latter is also a valid tool

it was my winning setup

my steelsoul run will probably consist of hunter and then ill get ||shaman|| as soon as i can

i fell in love with it, clearing rooms with ||thread storm|| just feels so powerful

idk what to play now

im not ready for steel soul and dont have the energy to do the speedruns yet

this is terrible

time to wait for the 3rd installment of the hollow knight series

hollow knight mushroom

[opal totem]

Hollow knight shroomdoom

[mental shuttle]

Hollow knight zoteboat