Silksong Discussion (soiler warning)

[river karma]

gonna have to refight the boss if i come back through though i think

womp

[wide quest]

[full vale]

ok tell me why i have to do thus whole arena again

HOW

PLEASE

TELL ,E HOW

[river karma]

except i wont ever 🥹 thank you shortcut lever

cosmic rays 😌

[full vale]

PLEASE

I BEG OF YOU

[trail pagoda]

Idk if my spool situation is good enough for my playtime

[river karma]

||i was in the goop going right when the boss transition hit 👻 something weird happened and i think i just clipped beneath the surface and ended up moving far enough left to pop up on the other side of the barrier||

[trail pagoda]

Most unbalanced situation I got myself 1 extra mask and 5 extra spool

[full vale]

adbsdj NOOOO

can't believe it relies on a bug

fuck

[trail pagoda]

Dont get too comfortable, after you beat it.
||If you happen to cross there again you have to do it again||

[wooden sun]

That's a pretty big "if"

[full vale]

yeah no idea why you'd ever go back to ||bile water||

fuck this are

a

i got the map

||place where white whisp women harass me|| time

btw

is that place the last map i need that isn't the ||cidatel ones||

[trail pagoda]

I need more masks i think

[full vale]

same

[trail pagoda]

I got only one

Extra

[full vale]

where do you find a map of ||the mist||

[trail pagoda]

There is no map iirc

[full vale]

oh

so

[wooden sun]

Oh there is it's just at the very end

[full vale]

do i not need it for the ||shakra quest||

[trail pagoda]

If it had it would be the most confusing map ever

[full vale]

is there anything of useful here

[mental shuttle]

Fun boss fight at the end

[trail pagoda]

Isnt the end ||of the mist the exhaust?||

[quiet sentinel]

act II
yay

[wooden sun]

||Yes, and technically when the mist clears you get to see what the actual area looks like, so thus you technically get a map of the mist||

[trail pagoda]

I will have to replay the whole game for that one achievement

[mental shuttle]

The ||bind effect|| unfortunately bogs this down alot

[full vale]

is it genuinely fun or is it ass tearing inducing

[trail pagoda]

Makes sense

[trail pagoda]

Its fun actually

[mental shuttle]

Its actually fun
Plus you get a ||silks skill|| out of it

[wooden sun]

Actually pretty fun

[trail pagoda]

Beware of ||the smoke||

[mental shuttle]

Dw theres a bench inside there

You dont have to do the whole thing as a runback 💔

[trail pagoda]

Thankfully

Idk if I do ||first sinner|| with 6 masks or go out to venture for some more

It was pretty doable

[full vale]

thank god

how can you tell if you're at the end

[mental shuttle]

I did it with 7

[mental shuttle]

Its obvious

[wooden sun]

[full vale]

no like

is there

an amoutn of rooms you need to suffer in first or

[mental shuttle]

Idk probably?

[trail pagoda]

Are you still ||in the mist?||

[wooden sun]

Maybe there's something in there that can help guide you

[hardy jolt]

when the credits roll

[wooden sun]

little goofy hints and such

[queen trench]

2 hits are easier for you than 2 damage

[trail pagoda]

||those light flies seems very tasty||

[quiet sentinel]

act II yay

[trail pagoda]

I just wanted this, but ||eva wont let me||

[mental shuttle]

Do you know how to properly traverse ||the mist||

[full vale]

no

[mental shuttle]

She's very particular for no reason

[full vale]

ohh

[trail pagoda]

hopefully after I slay ||the first sinner|| she will give me some extra shit

[mental shuttle]

FS only gives a silk skill 💔

[trail pagoda]

I got 6 crests already 🥀

[mental shuttle]

I think you also need memory lockets

[trail pagoda]

I had 3, used in ||wanderer crest|| so It was better to use

[mental shuttle]

Yea

Use as many as you can I think

I had 5 of my 7 maxed

[trail pagoda]

But assuming its abilities and crests im good I THINK after FS

[mental shuttle]

Its really weird sob

[trail pagoda]

Yeah

[full vale]

oh man

if only i knew what these ||flies|| do

[trail pagoda]

||that guitar that hornet learned how to play might be of use||

[queen trench]

||violin/harp imo||

[wooden sun]

||The world ebbs and flows in response to song, perhaps that too can help you here.||

[trail pagoda]

Lets just accept its literally none of them since its a needle 💔

[mental shuttle]

My thought process for anything
If you dont know what something does
Just use the ||needolin||

Or smack it

[trail pagoda]

Fun fact, hornet is 6cm tall

[queen trench]

well it's called ||needolin, so it was most likely supposed to mimick a violin||

[mental shuttle]

Mandolin

[full vale]

oh

[trail pagoda]

Supposed to be a violin, hornet plays like a cello, and sounds like a harp

[queen trench]

more rare of an instrument but I guess that works too

[queen trench]

uh huh

[full vale]

OHHHH

[hollow laurel]

shaw!

[wooden sun]

The strangest part is if you ||equip the harp tool, Using the needolin will cause it to ring out the sounds of an organ||

||So it might as well just be EVERY instrument||

[full vale]

how were you supposed to figure that out though

[trail pagoda]

After wandering endlessly you got it, now the ||exhaust organ awaits with its resident||

[queen trench]

even if you need them you don't need to use them because I got 2||vestacrest slots|| even with only the ||hunter crest|| unlocked (as in with ||memory lockets||)

[trail pagoda]

That tool is so useless 😔

[queen trench]

technically no

you can get some ||cool dialogue||

[wooden sun]

I mean, it's the tool that everything responds to on the deepest level, it would make sense that in the strangest place it would have a use.

[mental shuttle]

Damnnn

[trail pagoda]

The only time i see it making some sense is for acquiring ||the melodies||

[mental shuttle]

Should I go for ||phantom|| instead of ||last judge|| on my second save

[wooden sun]

I feel like (silksong) ||The Needolin|| should have a lot more interactions like (HK)||The Dreamnail|| had, since using it for anything other than lore is a net negative.

[mental shuttle]

It does

It works exactly like the first games dream nail

[trail pagoda]

Where is even ||phantom||

[wooden sun]

You get silk if you use it on enemies?

[full vale]

YESSS

that feels good

[mental shuttle]

No
But you get dialogue

[full vale]

also

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[trail pagoda]

I need your drill tool, hand it for me immediately

[wooden sun]

Well, yeah, but (hk)||the dreamnail|| at least gave you a free spell if you could squeeze in a fight.

[mental shuttle]

Its not needed in skong tbh

[full vale]

never

[mental shuttle]

Silk is easier to build up because you have more attack options

[trail pagoda]

Have you been ||to the cogwork core?||

[mental shuttle]

If im gonna do a comparison

Hollow knight is similar to dark souls 1 since its slower
While silksong is more on the level of something like bloodborne

[full vale]

mhm

[trail pagoda]

Better question, have you been to ||the middle/upper parts of the cidadel||

||grand bellway and above||

[full vale]

probably

dpeends on whayt you mean by that

[full vale]

oh yeah

[glad stratus]

I hate the ||cogwork dancers|| so much

[wooden sun]

[trail pagoda]

Wdym its so cool

[mental shuttle]

Homophobia /j

[full vale]

same

[glad stratus]

The boss is fucking awesome as shit I just hate fighting them

[full vale]

uhh whjre do i even go...

[mental shuttle]

Dw
You'll wish you didnt have to by the end

[trail pagoda]

Mods, incinerate this guy

[full vale]

i may or may not be stuck

[queen trench]

||enemies get stunned and reveal some dialogue when you use the harp needolin||

[full vale]

sigh

[trail pagoda]

How did you get stuck in ||the organ||

[full vale]

because idk where to go

[trail pagoda]

Did you find the bench

[mental shuttle]

The big fucking door in question:

[full vale]

yeah

i did find the bench

i did go inside

||made the elevator fall||

[trail pagoda]

The only way is up, literally

[full vale]

yeah

aware

i went up at least thrice and i'm still confused

[trail pagoda]

May I see where are you

[trail pagoda]

Well just try both sides

[full vale]

did

[trail pagoda]

Smoke is a good sign id say

[mental shuttle]

I dont think I can go back to playing HK anymore 😭

[full vale]

it is, both lead to dead ends tho

[mental shuttle]

I love silksongs movement and combat so much

[full vale]

nevermind

where the FUCK did htis come from

[mental shuttle]

Yeah

Thats so real

I explore smth and like
I find the most obvious thing I missed and I feel stupid

[hardy jolt]

REAL

[trail pagoda]

I explore but end up in fucking bosses somehow

Never into useful items

[glad stratus]

This boss is beautiful as shit but I hate it so much

[mental shuttle]

Phase 3 is a bit of a pain but the rest of the fight is peak

[trail pagoda]

I just want masks

[wooden sun]

I though phase 3 was easier because you could just ||whale into whichever robot wasn't moving||.

[trail pagoda]

If you find them hard just wait until later

[full vale]

why is my game so laggy

????

[wooden sun]

||Bilewater||'s final attack! Secret Cryptominer!

[mental shuttle]

Its only bad because of the runback

[trail pagoda]

Just pogo off those fellas and you take no dmg

Also ||first shrine bench||

[glad stratus]

Do I have to fight them... Can I just skip it...

[trail pagoda]

Nope, you have to

[full vale]

LOL

[glad stratus]

Damn it..

[trail pagoda]

You can cheese the fight in some ways

But its easy ngl

[mental shuttle]

Im talking about another fight i though you were talking about that

[trail pagoda]

[mental shuttle]

:3

[trail pagoda]

Best run back ever is FS fight lol

Idk if its that or smth else but does FS heal when she does that silk thingy that she stops?

[wooden sun]

yes, they are in-fact ||using the same heal binding you use when they stand still like that||

[trail pagoda]

Ah

[wooden sun]

Luckily, this means you know how to stop it

[trail pagoda]

I let it heal like 5 times while I was fighting it

surely its not that meaningful

[full vale]

HUH?

ohhhhh

that's so cool

this is just mtgr

[trail pagoda]

Bro really thought he would get stabbed

[full vale]

i did

soo

where do i get the map of ||the organ thi ng||

[trail pagoda]

Not even I have it

[wooden sun]

You already have it

[mental shuttle]

It gets added automatically

[trail pagoda]

Not really

[full vale]

oh

what else do i need?

||also are there any other weavernests,,, just curious||

[trail pagoda]

I guess Ill need to go to ||bile water|| for the map

[full vale]

yesss

||shakra quest||

[trail pagoda]

||void|| its gonna be a fun way to there id say

[full vale]

NOOO

FUCK

I NEED TO GO BACK TO ||BILEWATER||

[wooden sun]

It always returns

[full vale]

yeah for some fucking reason

[hollow laurel]

you can never escape

[wooden sun]

It was ALWAYS ||Bilewater||, there never was anything BUT ||Bilewater||.

[full vale]

oh man

this is just sad

anyway

OUT OF ||BILEWATER||

PLEASE

if this little twink doesn't give me his quest

imma

KILL

SOMEONE

YES

YES

YES

YES

YESSSSSSSSS

none of these involve ||bilewater||, right?

[wooden sun]

I have unfortunate news

[full vale]

ok tell me it isn't the arena bvoss

[lilac temple]

90 || beastflies ||

[wooden sun]

It's the arena boss

[full vale]

fuck me

might as well complete the ||food quest||

[mental shuttle]

One

[trail pagoda]

Isnt that the ||act 3 starting quest||

[full vale]

yes

[foggy grotto]

||I beat lace with 1 hp because I spammed 5 cogflys on her after her last stagger||
||I don't think I managed to get more than like 3 nail swings in it was just bugs||
||poor lace I feel bad||

||well this seems pretty final boss to me||

holy fuck

||why hello radicance 2||

[opal totem]

||More like radiance 0.5||

[foggy grotto]

||Can't wait to beat this boss and it just says "Act Three" or something||

It is somewhat surprising

Because like

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[foggy grotto]

||there's no way this isn't the final boss||

||but I was completely convinced I had another act ahead of me||

[barren ingot]

nah nah for that you gotta get 200% (beat the game as hornet and then as luigi)

[foggy grotto]

||three act story just makes too much sense||

[foggy grotto]

🥹

Anyways

I will be beating this boss tommorow

[vagrant crane]

I have begun the steel soul file

[foggy grotto]

I'm somewhat underwhelmed with ||lace 2 being kinda easy|| but I think that might be the point?

[foggy grotto]

Dear lord

[vagrant crane]

WYM "EASY"

[full vale]

tried making a map for the ||food quest||

[vagrant crane]

||LACE 2|| KICKED MY ASS

[foggy grotto]

I beat it in like

Under an hour

I think it was around 30 minutes

[vagrant crane]

ok, fair

[full vale]

is it good

is it possible

[vagrant crane]

that boss gave me some trouble but I kept going at it because it was so genuinely fun

that was most bosses in the game, actually

[foggy grotto]

Funnily enough

I feel like the easier a boss is

The less I like it

[vagrant crane]

Thats such a real opinion

[foggy grotto]

Because I just get pissed off that I'm dying to it instead of locking in

[vagrant crane]

||savage beastfly||

[foggy grotto]

YOU READ MY MIND

I WAS TYPING OUT A PARAGRAPH ABOUT THAT FUCKER

Unironically struggled against that more than anything else in the game

[vagrant crane]

||I would've been absolutely pissed at moorwing too, but I was more pissed that the forced swap to the reaper crest removed my tools and other shit||

||I can never like reaper crest because of moorwing, despite it probably being a good crest||

[foggy grotto]

And all it gave me was a useless fucking ||crest|| that I never used

[foggy grotto]

||wander|| is just better than all the other ones

||crazy dps||

||and crazy dps means crazy silk||

[vagrant crane]

Nah bro, I feel that way about the ||witch crest||

[foggy grotto]

||so more healing and spells||

[opal totem]

It's almost boring how good it is

[foggy grotto]

Don't have that one actually

[vagrant crane]

well obtaining it is an experience, let me tell you

[opal totem]

||Idk who thought that the crest with best dps and silk generation needs a crit mechanic on top of that||

[foggy grotto]

Is it in the ||arena in far fields?||

[opal totem]

||I kinda hope crit gets moved from wanderer to magnetic dice||

[vagrant crane]

uhhh no

[foggy grotto]

Ok I have no idea where it is then, lol

[opal totem]

||Healing|| is ass though

[foggy grotto]

I thought I had explored most of the map too

Rip me I guess

[foggy grotto]

They probably thought ||no range|| would be a big enough downside

||wanderer is genuinely terrible against flying enemies||

[vagrant crane]

you want a hint?

[foggy grotto]

I'm fine for now

[queen trench]

that's such a complicated route, I just went ||west, up a bit, west up then further like you, and the through the spa instead up, like why up in citadel?||

[foggy grotto]

It's not like I'm gonna be seeking out the ||crest|| anyways

Wanderer is already how I want to play the game

And I've gotten used to it

[opal totem]

I want to play with all of them

[barren ingot]

||is wanderer designed to feel like hollow knight? the pogo felt nearly identical but I didnt play with it much|| (not really spoilery)

[opal totem]

Too bad the game doesn't give me a reason to use || beast||

Pretty sure that was the idea yeah

[foggy grotto]

||it's just hollowknight but no range||

It's kind of disappointing

[vagrant crane]

||want me tell you witch's gimmick, then?||

[barren ingot]

I do wish the crests generally leaned harder into being unique- actually changing stats significantly and whatnot

[queen trench]

||hunter crest|| is really good if you can dodge well

[foggy grotto]

||I wish they had a crest like wanderer that was still unique||

[opal totem]

I'm fine with what crests currently do for the most part, I just wish certain ones were a little better

[foggy grotto]

I just see no reason to use it ||over wanderer||

[barren ingot]

they dont have unique enough identities or attributes to really justify the learning curve IMO

[queen trench]

||focus||

[foggy grotto]

Unless you don't have the opportunity to ||spam slash||

[barren ingot]

there's no immediate hook

[queen trench]

and range

[foggy grotto]

?

||Does it heal faster or something||

[queen trench]

haven't you ||upgraded it|| or something?

[foggy grotto]

[queen trench]

that's why i said it's really good if you don't get hit

[foggy grotto]

||upgrade as in memory locket?||

I am confused

[queen trench]

it probably, maybe, idk, have better dps than ||wanderer|| if you no hit

[foggy grotto]

I clearly have not found the game mechanic you are referring to

[queen trench]

yeah clearly

[opal totem]

Moveset changes are good enough for me
||Hunter, reaper, architect and beast|| all feel very different because of that alone

[vagrant crane]

||So, you know how there's a needolin door in the VERY starting area of the game||
Go there, you'll see

[opal totem]

Only one that doesn't really stand out is ||wanderer||

[full vale]

oh yeah i did mess up a bit

almost benched

scariest fucking shit of my life

[foggy grotto]

you're telling me I have to ALL the way over there?

you must be new around here

I WILL be killing this boss underpowered

it WILL take at least 3 hours

[opal totem]

Backtracking? In my metroidvania?

[foggy grotto]

and I would have it no other way

anyways

I've yapped for long enough

I eep now byeee

[vagrant crane]

No that's just for the optional upgrade to ||hunter crest||

[wooden sun]

I mean, ||Wanderer||'s lack of any movement change kind of makes it special in its own right, since it's the only ||crest|| that doesn't massively change your movement, and instead gives you the best control.

[vagrant crane]

If you have ||alot of crests you can also get a vesticrest but you'll have to see what that is for yourself :)||

[opal totem]

What do you mean exactly by changing movement? I feel like at least half of them don't

[wooden sun]

Mostly the downards attack

Since it completely removes the angled slash

[merry marsh]

My favorite crest is definitely Hunter, between the ||upgrades|| and the diagonal pogo (which takes a bit to get used to, but I find very helpful against all of the enemies)

[wooden sun]

And also the sprint attack doesn't lock you into an animation like most ||crests|| do.

[opal totem]

||Yeah there are at least 3 crests with a generic hollow knight like moveset, it's not unique||

[full vale]

YES

I DID IT

THE QUEST

[wooden sun]

You got the ||bilewater|| thing?

[full vale]

no

i mean ||food quest||

[wooden sun]

oh

Well that's still really good

[full vale]

yeah

yessss

sigh

||bilewater time||

[wooden sun]

Should be easier now hopefully

[full vale]

immediately died

and

lost all my money

[vagrant crane]

Fire

legit the most unexpected origin of the needle but it's cool new lore so i'll take it

[queen trench]

it looks absolutely beautiful too

[opal totem]

||Didn't hk mention that hornet trained with queen vespa||

[vagrant crane]

||I rember seeing a screenshot of someone getting a pale oil I don't have and I'm on the hivesteel needle so I cannot wait to see what it looks like next||

[queen trench]

yeah I can't wait either,

and yet

[wooden sun]

||That's confirmed in silksong it's implied in HK||

[full vale]

and died again

[queen trench]

my controller is awaiting repairs so I HAVE to wait

[vagrant crane]

In the meantime, while that thought just kinda sits there, time to play a steel soul save to pad out my ||act 3 ||attempts

[queen trench]

maybe I should just play hollow knight with keyboard while waiting, it'll be a challenge but at least that gives me something to do

[opal totem]

Another crest moveset fact the game never tells you about
||If you spam attack after releasing charge slash on witch it does an extra swing||

[wooden sun]

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[queen trench]

holy shit, was monksilly based on this?

[wooden sun]

yes

[queen trench]

that's so cool

also here's another gif I know of that a rainworld thing (gif) was based on

[vagrant crane]

I guessed that and figured it out myself

[queen trench]

oh wait nvm no tenor

[vagrant crane]

Because im a turbo nerd and knew that hk cyclone slash did that

[opal totem]

At least it isn't as crucial as ||charging down and sprint slash on architect ||

[vagrant crane]

what

[full vale]

i hate this

i hate this so much

i'mmjust doing it tomorrow

why isn't there a bench near this guy

[vagrant crane]

what's up?

[wooden sun]

||Bilewater||

[full vale]

||bilewater||

[vagrant crane]

||There is a bench after the station bench, you just gotta find it||

Most people consider it to not be much better but I think it's a gamechanger

[full vale]

i ain't gonna find shit

[wooden sun]

I wish I knew about that earlier

[full vale]

please just pointing it out in the map

i am

tired

i will

fry and throw up like a bahy

[queen trench]

not my picture

[vagrant crane]

Thank you

[queen trench]

it is indeed a gamechanger

[vagrant crane]

I was gonna but i didn't wanna have to use editing to cut out other parts of the map

[full vale]

thank you

[queen trench]

np

[full vale]

someone should make a mod with a bench directly next to it

[wooden sun]

I wonder if any of the future patches will nerf ||Bilewater||, and I especially wonder how badly it would be nerfed if so.

[vagrant crane]

call me insane for saying this, but I hope they DON'T nerf it

[opal totem]

||I'd expect an extra bench near the boss||

Not much else to nerf

[queen trench]

honestly I don't expect that

[vagrant crane]

I cannot believe they showed an|| act 3|| exclusive area in the trailer, as im now realizing

[full vale]

i demand that tbh

[opal totem]

They could also nerf ||arena before the boss|| but I don't know what else

[full vale]

put a bench near the boss or I'll kill you

[queen trench]

honestly ||groal|| wasn't that difficult imo, I know I'm crazy for saying that but still

[opal totem]

They even showed some dlc exclusive content back in 2019 trailer

[vagrant crane]

yes, i agree

[opal totem]

I disagree

[vagrant crane]

Hate. ||Act 3 spoilers, kinda||

[hollow laurel]

easily the worst one...

[vagrant crane]

ngl pretty sure i just need to get gud since the enemies aren't that hard, but there's so many

and they're annoying

[hardy jolt]

shaw

[vagrant crane]

I'm doing it first 😭

[mental shuttle]

I fucking hate bosses that make you fight an arena first

||Karmelita|| is so good but she has a shit arena before her fight 😭

[hollow laurel]

true

[hardy jolt]

||i dont remembeer kamelita having an arena before her fight wtf||

[mental shuttle]

Forgor

[vagrant crane]

This one is the worst
||major spoilers||

[hardy jolt]

||spoiler tagging act 3 spoilers does not do anything ||

[vagrant crane]

im sorry i'll stop

[hardy jolt]

just say likeee

major spoilers or smth

[vagrant crane]

😭 I hate being part of the problem

[queen trench]

just say ||post-end ||spoilers

[vagrant crane]

THAT'S ARGUABLY JUST AS BAD

[hardy jolt]

that doesnt really make sense

[queen trench]

hmmm

[vagrant crane]

THAT ||FAKEOUT IS LEGIT MY FAVORITE PART OF ACT 3|| major spoilers for the ending

[queen trench]

major spoilers for the ending isn't clear enough though

[vagrant crane]

It gets people to look away.

[wide ledge]

silk song

[queen trench]

cuz then people ||who've finished act 2 think it's safe for them to unspoil||

[queen trench]

not everyone

maybe 100%spoilers works

[vagrant crane]

ok fair but what do you WANT me to say. Ok im just not gonna talk about the game anymore i guess

don't take that the wrong way, im just seriously mad at myself for contributing to the problem of bad spoiler warnings

[queen trench]

I'd rather have you say|| post-end spoilers than major spoilers for the ending||

though like I said just a minute ago 100% spoilers might work better

[vagrant crane]

fair

sigh trying to keep things properly spoilered is hard now that im in the late game

[queen trench]

||I personally have been spoiled on act 3 (I'm still not there) but honestly that's partially my own fault for going into this thread, at least the rain world server is better than other servers though||

[vagrant crane]

it's better than the actual hk server

[queen trench]

yeah I expected that

I'm going to try playing hollow knight but with keyboard now

[vagrant crane]

Oh im in the silksong lategame on keyboard

I had to rebind every ability as i found it, it was very fun

"fun"

[gray horizon]

god i hate ||first sinner||

[hardy jolt]

||tbf if people have only gotten 1 ending and click it, its KINDA the persons fault for clicking it considering multiple endings exist||

[gray horizon]

feels like each attempt takes so long

[queen trench]

they might not know

[hardy jolt]

ehh

that could happen but i feel like especially if youve played hk

you would know

or atleast assume

||but yea theres not really a good way to spoil act 3 content and warn for it ||

[vagrant crane]

I'll just come back while im talking about my steel soul runs, since I doubt they're getting that far any time soon

anyways, on an unrelated note, is it just me or is the ||conchcutter|| tool actually like really good for some reason? (Act 2 spoilers)

[queen trench]

wow hollow knight looks so much different compared to silksong

[vagrant crane]

XD ya think?
actually, seriously, I'm kinda curious, but what are the biggest differences you would say?

[queen trench]

it can ||hit multiple times per use|| I bet it'll be really useful for minmaxing

[vagrant crane]

it's like the sawblade on crack
I can say that without spoiling because it's in the trailer :)

[queen trench]

idk the quality is just... different

also idk, I feel silksong is more zoomed in or somethin

[glad stratus]

OOH I GOT ||Clawline|| OOHHH HELL YEAAAAHH

[vagrant crane]

Your flying enemy woes are done far. Until they aren't. but for now you've no longer gotta worry bout' them

[queen trench]

omg I'm at 0 health already

[vagrant crane]

XD

[queen trench]

also I'm so used to healing 3 hp that I forget to heal

[vagrant crane]

||rq how does obtaining vesticrests work? Is it tied to obtaining more crests, like I thought, or is it tied to increasing your other stats, like masks and silk spool?||
Spoilers for... lets say act 2

I guess.

[opal totem]

I think it's tied to ||crests|| yeah

[vagrant crane]

yipee

so getting the ||beast crest|| will have a purpose in my steel soul run 😭

[queen trench]

I think ||crests||

[hardy jolt]

||its tied to crests yet but ive also heard that its tied to memory lockets and that might also be true because on multiple playthroughs where ive went to eva with different amount of memory lockets she gave me less stuff on some and more on others||

[opal totem]

It's like
||3 crests - hunter upgrade
4 crests - yellow verticrest
5 crests - blue verticrest
6 crests - hunter upgrade
7 crests - Eva||

I think

[vagrant crane]

well ok then, that's good to know
Let me ask another question then: ||How many slots can the vesticrest get? I have 2 rn||

[opal totem]

Haven't checked what happens if ||you visit Eva with only two crests||

[vagrant crane]

||Oh hunter has another upgrade? That's cool||

[hardy jolt]

||idk what you mean i think but she gives one yellow and one blue||

[vagrant crane]

||oh, ok, it just has the 2 slots then||

wait, what are the ||other 2 crests||? Don't actually tell me, just answer if they're obtainable in act 2

[opal totem]

They are

[vagrant crane]

WHAT AM I MISSING 😭

[opal totem]

||Only one crest is act 3 exclusive||

[vagrant crane]

I had what I though was everything in act 2, besides shop items, before beating the game

[glad stratus]

Welp I'm never getting past ||the gauntlet after getting Clawline||

[vagrant crane]

and i need to get some flease BUT THATS BESIDES THE POINT

[vagrant crane]

what
it's not that hard

[glad stratus]

It's the runback that's annoying

[vagrant crane]

... You should be able to do that whole thing after getting ||clawline|| first try

[glad stratus]

My fault I didn't no-hit ||absolute radiance|| for the 7 years I had before silksong

[vagrant crane]

Dude, I can't even get halfway through p5

[glad stratus]

I managed to no-hit my way back to the gauntlet and it was kinda cool ngl

[vagrant crane]

Maybe it's because I explored alot and had upgrades, and because I had the ||magma bell||?

[hardy jolt]

then stop telling people how long an arena should take

[vagrant crane]

bruhg why am i saying things like that lol
We all have varying skill levels 😭

[hardy jolt]

[vagrant crane]

I personally really like the section after getting ||clawline|| it very effectively teaches you all the little things about the ability imo

[hardy jolt]

favorite part of the game fr

[vagrant crane]

yes

I just lost my steel soul save

as one does

im waaaaaaay too used to fighting while having the dash

(it was ||hunter's march||)

[opal totem]

Shade cloak dlc when

[quiet sentinel]

yes

idk where the rumour that you need lockets for it came from but its just tied to crests

[hardy jolt]

||i talked to eva earlier with 5 crests and i didnt get blue vesticrest ||

[quiet sentinel]

because ||blue is 6||

||I got mine at 6|| and im ||6/7 on my achievement for crests||

[opal totem]

||Isn't 6 hunter upgrade||

[quiet sentinel]

No that's the first one you get

[opal totem]

There are two

[quiet sentinel]

Yeah and you get the last with the last one

[hardy jolt]

❌

[opal totem]

Are you sure

[quiet sentinel]

I'm pretty positive that I got my blue at 6? lol

[queen trench]

cheesing da boss

[opal totem]

||I just got second hunter with 6th crest and I don't get to bind Eva yet||

[hardy jolt]

||this is why the "rumor" that lockets are also tied to upgrades exist ||

[quiet sentinel]

then its wrong to tie rewards to ||crests||

[opal totem]

Why

[quiet sentinel]

because you just told me you got ||hunter II at 6 lol||

i got my blue at 6

[native turret]

I got mine at 4 or 5

[quiet sentinel]

so yes its wrong to tie them to crests

[opal totem]

Idk maybe I'm just better at the game

[native turret]

I heard it might be ||silk hearts||

[opal totem]

Def not

[native turret]

then idk

[hardy jolt]

could be tied to both butttt we dont know for sure

[native turret]

the worst explained thing in the entire game

[opal totem]

Yeah

[quiet sentinel]

i rest my case

[opal totem]

||Maybe it's like the amount of available tool slots on all crests combined, would make sense why getting new crests makes such a difference||

[quiet sentinel]

so its confirmed that getting all ||7 completes the list||

otherwise that wouldnt make much sense

actually idk why im worried abt it i still haven't figured out how to access ||act 3||

i did an accidental ||cursed ending|| trying to figure it out loo

lol*

[opal totem]

||It just survives in act 3 if you have anything left to buy||

Secret good ending?

||Or is its death tied to you buying all items rather than act 3||

[native turret]

yea

I think only ||conductor's death|| is tied to ||act 3||

[opal totem]

||Leam||

Or whatever his name was

[atomic lintel]

it really is fine

[native turret]

||architect perishes p much the moment you buy the last item||

[native turret]

the fact that you can get pretty strong help for it makes it pretty manageable

[opaque shard]

Hello everyone i just got to ||act 3 and wtf is happening why is the world evil 😭||

[native turret]

:)

[opal totem]

Most people seem to not know that you can

[native turret]

yea but still

[opal totem]

||I heard you can also get Shakra to help you with high halls if you finish her wish before it but I didn't get it much later||

[native turret]

you really just gotta walk around bit more

[native turret]

yea that's the one I had

[hardy jolt]

good luck

[native turret]

I could not find ||Garmond|| for the life of me

[opal totem]

I couldn't find that area until post game

[atomic lintel]

||high halls|| arena is like, peak aura and kino imo

[serene oxide]

hi hornets

[atomic lintel]

its my favourite challenge out of the 3 songs

[native turret]

I just dont like the HH enemies

[quiet sentinel]

summed up to i hate tanky flying enemies that keep their distance over spike pits

[native turret]

I just dont like their attacks

[opaque shard]

Real these flying enemies in ||choral chambers that throw bells are the true final boss||

[opal totem]

||Rune skill|| is very good for arenas like this

[native turret]

their stupid dodges

[quiet sentinel]

||yes spear skarr i am looking at you||

||coughs skarr guard and spear skarr room in hunters march coughs||

[hardy jolt]

goodbye all of the rosaries i just grinded for

[hollow laurel]

Was it worth it?

[digital haven]

how do i get the crest with ||3 silk skills?||

[digital robin]

I like ||2 of the 3 trinkets that Err got, no idea what music does in combat XD||

[opal totem]

||It's in ruined chapel||

[digital robin]

||It's hidden in the tutorial area||

[digital haven]

is it good

[opal totem]

Idk

[digital robin]

||It doesn't have yellow slots I think. But the nail-style is interesting I guess||?

[opal totem]

It's generally ok but then there's one downside that I don't think is needed

[digital robin]

Also silk is harder to come by than HK soul

so less spells

[hardy jolt]

its peak

[digital haven]

better than ||witch?||

[hardy jolt]

imo yes

[digital haven]

oof for me ||no anklets|| is gonna be hard

[opal totem]

That's kind of a low bar

[digital haven]

at least i have ||venticrest||

[digital robin]

You still have ||EVA||

[digital haven]

a, ||venticrest||; idk what to do for the blue one

[hardy jolt]

i think it has both yellow and blue ones just no red ones

[opal totem]

||Injector band||, easy

[digital robin]

I already told, I think, ||you need to link with stuff arround you (to get new spells mainly)||

[opal totem]

Or do you mean you don't know how to get blue

[digital robin]

||Double heal is better, most bosses have openings where speed doesn't matter||

[opal totem]

I don't run one without the other

[hardy jolt]

yea i use both

[digital robin]

Unless you run ||Beast or Witch, I feel like fast is kinda mid||

||I prefer double, claw or extra silk (for 2nd heal / up to 4 spells)||

[opal totem]

Better than||warding bell|| imo

[digital robin]

Yea

that is a noob trap, only ||Witch|| benefit from it

[digital haven]

that

[hardy jolt]

||having it faster is like always good unless ur fighting moorwing who you can run to the other side of the room for and heal||

[queen trench]

||lace 2 you can jump onto the wall and get high enough in he air that lace can't get you||

[hardy jolt]

||sure and lace 2,, but most enclosed enviorments its still very nice to have||

[digital robin]

||Almost alway you can just find a wall to double jump up and be safe from 80% of the attacks. Just wait for the boss to do a long ground attack and you are fine||

[blissful obsidian]

THIS WAS SO FUCKING PAINFUL

GOD

||garmond|| the goat though

[digital robin]

||How do you get garmond up there?|| XD

[opal totem]

||You find him somewhere else before it and have a duel||

[blissful obsidian]

||found him in a part of whispering vaults||

||duelled with him||

||went to high halls and he was there||

[hardy jolt]

i will try that more often

[digital robin]

Less Surprising development in the entire game (end-game sidequest spoilers)

[queen trench]

sure but it's nice to just have the freedom to ||heal whenever you like and be fine because it's fast||

[opal totem]

||Is it act 2?||

[queen trench]

||no||

I think

[digital robin]

I'm doing 100% after the true ending. It probably requires ||act 3||

[opal totem]

||Is it after you do his second quest then?||

||This one looks like the corpse of his assistant which you find in act 1, idk if he himself can die||

[queen trench]

you might say it's unfortunate

[digital robin]

(un)fortunate ||ending||

[digital haven]

i cant find it

where exactly is it?

nvm

thats kinda cleverly hidden

[hardy jolt]

[digital haven]

silly crest

OH THIS IS THE ONE WITH THE SHIT BIND

NOOOO

[opal totem]

One of

And it's the least bad one tbh

[digital haven]

is it just me or is this crazy range

[opal totem]

That's the point

[hardy jolt]

check out the pogo

[digital robin]

It's like ||grubsong eulogy, I wonder if it has less damage like in HK||

[digital haven]

i SAW

its huge

[hardy jolt]

also nail art :3333

i love that crest sm

[digital haven]

ooh

pretty silly

longclaw is gonna go wild on this

i need more ||silk skills wheres that one weaver guy||

[queen trench]

hello there! I sure do wonder who you are

[hardy jolt]

no way

Hornet "Garama!" Silksong!!!!!

[queen trench]

because I have to wait for controller repairs I'm playing hollow knight with keyboard instead

[native turret]

||Karmelita|| is beating my ass

[opal totem]

Oh ||the fixer bug is alive||

[native turret]

I keep getting to the second shout and then getting comboed

[clever furnace]

Yeah she has an insane amount of health

[digital haven]

||phantom|| is such a fun boss omg

[blissful obsidian]

||FUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIOFUCKTROBBIO||

[native turret]

it's not too bad, she just keeps deflecting all of my attacks

[digital haven]

same :(

[blissful obsidian]

||WHY DOES HE DO THE TORNADO THING AFTER COVERING THE AIR WITH BOMBS I CANT EVEN JUMP OVER HIM||

[native turret]

exactly why :)

[clever furnace]

My best advice is to pogo ||she usually sticks to swing attacks when you do and you can dodge her throw||

[native turret]

yea he's mean

[clever furnace]

Go back and do him later

[clever furnace]

The reward isn’t worth it

[blissful obsidian]

dont i need to do him for

||vaultkeeper||

[clever furnace]

No

[blissful obsidian]

oh phew thank god

[clever furnace]

I don’t think so

[blissful obsidian]

how many of those cylinders do i have to give the guy

to get it

[clever furnace]

Just one special one

Others are for rosaries

[blissful obsidian]

where can i find it im losing my mind

[native turret]

oh I am in the air like 90% of the time
the ||spin into ground slam with spikes going out in front of her|| is what gets me most of the time

[clever furnace]

Yeah that move sucksss

[native turret]

I struggle with predicting the trajectory of her jump and often just jump into it

[clever furnace]

Her ||hitbox becomes ridiculously big ||

[native turret]

and then I try to hit her more to get more silk and then she combos me into death

[clever furnace]

Go down

[native turret]

I should use the ||harpoon|| more often tbh

[clever furnace]

It’s at the bottom somewhere

[native turret]

I keep forgetting about it

[digital haven]

what does he evn give

[clever furnace]

Tbh I didn’t use any ||spells in the fight just occasional tools||

[blissful obsidian]

||i just checked a guide and yeah i HAVE to beat trobbio||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1100233446359572581/1294756212742684743/caption.gif

[clever furnace]

I swore you didnt but then again my memory is terrible sorry

[blissful obsidian]

||GARMOND WHERE ARE YOU WHEN I NEED YOU||

[clever furnace]

My best advice is to be patient

If you get impatient and try to get extra hits in you will be punished

[clever furnace]

||Also you can bat the balls away||

[clever furnace]

||thing that damages enemies when you heal ||

[blissful obsidian]

ah

[clever furnace]

And completely destroy them when ||they fire the smoke ||

[blissful obsidian]

||but what about that one pure vessel focus type attack, when he does it alongside the tornado its borderline impossible to dodge||

[digital haven]

oh that shitty tool

i forgot he even gives it

[clever furnace]

Pogo

Keep above him

[blissful obsidian]

no like

when he does the attack that summons explosions around the arena

and he does it alongside the tornado

its hard to dodge that

[digital robin]

||It's a decent tool for Witch/Beast. Since it does decent damage (mini string storm when healing), but yea is a bit risky||

[digital haven]

||shaman|| is literally unusable for me because im used to ||reaper|| pogo
this is what happends when you have 55+h with one crest and then switch

[clever furnace]

I’d watch a video of someone fighting him and see how they do it

[little ferry]

For me it was just a matter of luck

Sometimes his attacks would just overlap horribly and there was almost no way for me to dodge

But he's not too hard to hit so it was way for me to get enough silk to heal

[untold spindle]

probably my favourite crest if you have the right setup

it's useless against like 1 boss but otherwise it's great

nuclear damage

[digital robin]

Final Mask :3

[digital haven]

wheres that one ||weaver|| boss

[serene oxide]

||slab||

[digital haven]

WTF

[digital haven]

oh cool
what about ||final sinner||

i mean i know its also there

but

[serene oxide]

||is that not the weaver boss you were talking about||

[digital haven]

are they the same,, huh

dont i need the keys for it

[serene oxide]

||final sinner|| is a ||weaver||

[serene oxide]

yes

[digital haven]

a

[digital haven]

i only have the one that starts with a

[serene oxide]

||key of apostate|| is in ||putrified ducts||

[serene oxide]

i think that's the one you need for the boss

[digital haven]

are they above or below the ||bellway||

[digital robin]

||Also, this spot contained my final Hunter's Journal creature||

Now I just need to find 2 rare ones for the extra kills note

[serene oxide]

to the right of it

below I think?

[digital haven]

you need all keys i just checked

[serene oxide]

but not way under

[digital haven]

where are the other two

[serene oxide]

you need ||to get captured|| to get them

[mental shuttle]

Glope

[digital haven]

ugh i really dont want to do that

alright how do i do it

internet isnt helping me

[hardy jolt]

||you dont have to theres a path to the rest of the slab||

i dont remember exactly where it was but i can go check

[digital haven]

where

[hardy jolt]

||oh yea you have apostate key right||

[digital haven]

i dont really care i just wanna get to do the boss already

[digital haven]

yes

[hardy jolt]

okk yea jusst use that on the door next to the bellway and then you have access to the rest

theres some maze like stuff you gotta go through in there tho

[digital haven]

ok so

key of thing that starts with i is far above me

AHA NVM

[hardy jolt]

||i think its around one of the indolent doors||

[misty isle]

(post-Bellhart spoilers) ||Just found out you can see the Hunters crest combo meter as the half-circle near the crest icon. It fills when you hit stuff, doesnt fade over time, and fully resets when taking a hit.||

[quiet sentinel]

A shocking amount of people miss that detail so when I was explaining it to a few friends they thought it was referring to the spool 😭

[misty isle]

(post-Bilewater spoilers) oh damn.

||wait how do you heal now||

[quiet sentinel]

||Now beat the game like that||

[misty isle]

yeah no.

I havent even reached act 3 final boss, I aint doing that

[quiet sentinel]

I will just say a heads up

||I only found out about the cursed ending while experimenting with the curse is that once you extract it there is no way to get that specific ending, (at least to my knowledge)||

[misty isle]

fuck

[quiet sentinel]

Think of it like voidheart in HK

Except the voidheart can go away

[misty isle]

||oh so theres an ending hidden behind that. idk how you are meant to figure that out||

[quiet sentinel]

I stumbled on that by complete accident thinking that that's how I get to ||act iii||

[misty isle]

just please avoid telling me any more spoilers

[quiet sentinel]

Yeah sorry, I just wanna warn you about potential softlocks 😭

[mental shuttle]

Im evil

[quiet sentinel]

I was going around talking to every NPC and I was in voice call with Blu and he pushed my curiosity by telling me "now beat the game like this" 😭

Otherwise most people probably miss it or aren't curious or patient enough to experiment

[hardy jolt]

the most messed up thing about ||act 3|| is that they took my elevator away major soilers

[tawdry osprey]

but you can... use it

[hardy jolt]

but i wanna get down to the bellway fast ||first shrine elevator is like the only important one,,||

[tawdry osprey]

||i mean its only locked the first time you use it you can go down by yourself one time come on||

[hardy jolt]

/silly

[misty isle]

||I wonder how many NPCs died in act 3, so far Ive found 2 (plus Bone Bottom)||

the only quest I am happy to google out

[atomic lintel]

no one told me ||architect great slash|| is this good??? mid-lategame crest spoil

this doesnt show it full justice actually

the range is way longer than that

[serene oxide]

it's also the strongest charge in the game

[misty isle]

oh damn best crest keeps on getting better (act 3 spoilers I think?)

THERES MORE???????'''

[hardy jolt]

|| will def be trying a nailmaster glory architect build|||

i found a glitch after getting ||plasmium gland ||

||infinite lifeblood? nah. negative lifeblood||

[atomic lintel]

glup

sorry i drank it all

[mental shuttle]

Eating all the shards

She is NOT crafting with those shards

She's just munching on them

[hardy jolt]

real

[mental shuttle]

Fa ri du la si ma net

[icy basin]

cuz skill issue

[blissful obsidian]

ngl that fight was kinda fun

top 10 actors in human history

[digital haven]

anyone got a proper list of all spool and mask fragments?

also where tf is the third ||silk heart||

[hardy jolt]

||https://www.ign.com/maps/hollow-knight-silksong/pharloom||

this map is awesome

[atomic lintel]

ward

[digital haven]

god bless

[atomic lintel]

is it me or is this completely useless

[hardy jolt]

it is

[atomic lintel]

unless we get some kind of item that expands our natural silk amount

idk

[little ferry]

I always use it for boss fights especially if the boss is hard to hit

Makes it easier to heal

[digital haven]

the qhar and the hurh

[opal totem]

||The only non platforming use I can think of is this with flea egg||

[hardy jolt]

||those are quests ones||

[digital haven]

ah

[hardy jolt]

||the spool is the one from the shop|||

[digital haven]

all 3?

[hardy jolt]

yes

[digital haven]

also how get blue ||venticrest||

[atomic lintel]

fun fact ! huntress quest spoil ||needle strikes (great slash) can give you different kinds of organs, architect gives you shredded, dunno about the other ones!||

[clever furnace]

Can you still find ||gromlings after the lifeblood infection || major spoilers

[atomic lintel]

yea

[clever furnace]

Where

[atomic lintel]

not sure

[digital haven]

i used tools for all of those

[atomic lintel]

some distant part of wormways mayhaps

[opal totem]

||No but their journal entry should autocomplete||

I think

[clever furnace]

It hasn’t

[opal totem]

Or they might still be in the ||weavenest||

[clever furnace]

Where’s that again?

[digital haven]

leftmost part of ww

[atomic lintel]

can anyone tell if one of these is longer late game spoil

i dont think it is

[opal totem]

No it doesn't work

[atomic lintel]

oh

[digital haven]

first one longer

[atomic lintel]

i didnt

[opal totem]

I tried

[atomic lintel]

equip

the thing

[clever furnace]

Hard to tell

[atomic lintel]

LMAO

okay yea it doesnt work

[digital haven]

hmoor help

how blue venti..

[opal totem]

Same as yellow

Just do more of that

[digital haven]

more of what

i just went to the person once

[opal totem]

Of ||expanding your nature||

[digital haven]

and they gave me it

[opal totem]

Whatever it means

[digital haven]

||how many crests do i have to get..||

[opal totem]

||Either get more crests or use more memory lockets||

Or both

[opal totem]

5 I think

Still not sure what exactly triggers those

[digital haven]

fine ill do operation

[blissful obsidian]

||garmond and zaza have TOO many death flags im scared||

[opal totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[clever furnace]

Best tools for ||lost lace?|| true end boss spoilers

[opal totem]

||Tacks and idk||

[clever furnace]

Yeah ||tacks are great they carry me to the second phase ||

[hardy jolt]

|||tacks and lifeblood vial trust|||

[atomic lintel]

i beat it just with plasmium

[clever furnace]

I was considering ||lifeblood|| and especially now I have ||it autogenerating || major spoilers

[opal totem]

Can you ||overdose without architect or running through half of the map||

[clever furnace]

No

You need one or the other

[opal totem]

Valid tbh

Shit's strong

[clever furnace]

I wouldn’t use it in the final fight tbh

[atomic lintel]

i honestly expect one of the DLCs to make it easier

[opal totem]

I wouldn't use ||architect|| on it

[atomic lintel]

lifeblood DLC....

[opal totem]

Lifeblood situation is crazy

[clever furnace]

I mean it’s basically ||like the charms from hk soo||

[opal totem]

At least dlcs will make 100% steel soul easier

Unless tc decides to fix that

[clever furnace]

Can you imagine a ||full lifeblood dlc because of the whole infestation thing ||

[atomic lintel]

it will be Painful

[clever furnace]

Did hollow knight originally have only 100%

[opal totem]

Yes

That's how it ended up being 112%

[blissful obsidian]

yeah

[atomic lintel]

especially because of the whole ||lifeblood enemies regenerating health passively|| hyper late game spoil gimmick

[clever furnace]

And then they changed it and added a 112% achievement

[mental shuttle]

This sucks

[clever furnace]

Oh yeah tc would be super sadistic with it

[clever furnace]

I literally thought the ||infected assistant was unkillable at first lmao|| major spoilers

[mental shuttle]

Hardest boss in the game

[clever furnace]

Turns out I just wasn’t ||hitting him fast enough ||

[blissful obsidian]

HEY TRIGGER WARNING FOR J*B APPLICATIONS /j /silly

[opal totem]

||Suspiciously infected assistant shaped gap in the journal:||

[hardy jolt]

i still havent beat them they're too hard

[icy basin]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[atomic lintel]

i just two shot this guy with ||architect great slash + poison flintslate||

so busted

[icy basin]

this is hy i love ||architect crest||

[mental shuttle]

Runs in the family?

[icy basin]

fr

[atomic lintel]

dude imissed

so many memory lockets

in this run

sob

[blissful obsidian]

ghost has that 24/7 fent stare

[icy basin]

lifeblood moment

[mental shuttle]

Lifeblood is fent

[clever furnace]

Do you expect me to memorise and correctly spell out ||zygoloktop or whatever the fuck his name was ||

[clever furnace]

Drug addiction runs in the family ig

[blissful obsidian]

||why is lace moving like prime von in her second fight||

[misty isle]

Act 3 spoilers ||After The Incident Pharloom literally became a Higher Being free-for-all lmao. If Radiance was still there they would join the fun too||

[mental shuttle]

Its literally just ||zylotol|| 😭

I remember it because it sounds like a fucking
Antidepressant

[clever furnace]

I am not memorising one side characters name I forget my own name most days 💯💯💯🔥🔥

[clever furnace]

||Would’ve saved him||

[mental shuttle]

Sobb

[misty isle]

Act 3 spoilers ||Cant wait for Silksong DLC where White Lady and Unn decide to make some kind of infection and fuck around Pharloom too||

[clever furnace]

I can’t wait for ||lifeblood higher being. Higher being of drug addiction ||

[misty isle]

There already is tho

[clever furnace]

|| “higher being these words are for you alone. Try my new epic blue baha ocean blast mix it’ll have you zonked out it’s fire”||

[blissful obsidian]

||lace 2 reminds me of pure vessel ngl||

if we think about it ||savage beastfly is just grey prince zote||

[mental shuttle]

Real

[untold spindle]

act 3 spoiler ||kind of insane how strong the Radiance was that it managed to infect the little guys in the abyss in hindsight||

[misty isle]

Considering Godhome and Act 3, ||lifeblood is DEFINITELY controlled by a higher being.||

[mental shuttle]

Reminds me of

[blissful obsidian]

man ||lace is just parrying ALL of my attacks||

[clever furnace]

Her parries suck

[icy basin]

||magnetic dice saved me TWICE in this fight lol|| endgame spoiler

[misty isle]

Play more agressively, use run attacks and attack more often

[mental shuttle]

Used to think the same
It was just a skill issue

[untold spindle]

if you bait it it's one of the best attack windows

[clever furnace]

||I hate the really badly telegraphed one that doesn’t let you pogo||

[blissful obsidian]

alr

[untold spindle]

if you're ||using cogflies or similar tools they can proc the parry at random so maybe try a different setup||

[misty isle]

||Lace 2|| seems like if Team Cherry copied homework from Pale Shadow and Pale Prince fights

Which is awesome ngl

[clever furnace]

Are those mods

[blissful obsidian]

yep

||how exactly do i dodge lace's ground counter if i hit her when she parries or do i just tank the damage||

[misty isle]

Yeah

Pale Shadow is one of the most fun HK modded fights, give it a try when you can

[untold spindle]

||if you beat the mist|| ||use your own parry|| else ||jump after triggering it||
if you're doing it accidentally it's much harder than if you know you're going to do it