#[Finished] 60 hours in and Hunting for my life
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yeah(?)
(just a silly little joke)
aw, such a cute emote

oh yeah, I meant in general, since getting in to shaded citadel is the first time i have some type of objective
Ahhh I see
It's one of my biggest misteries in my playthough, half of my time theroizing in my mid is about the blue rock-like balls
it was indeed pretty dungerous
š« š«
I took one out, because if the blue person talks, maybe they can tell me what do they do in the five pebbles
there are some later on, but I still do not know about the five pebbles area
I'm glad you enjoyed reading through it :)
trying to walljump, backfliped too hard and throwed a spear in to the ground
WAIT
There's no way
can I throw spears in to the celings (or up in general)
hehe, camoflage lizards are in shambles right now
Lol
so you camed back to five pebbles?
well, i guesse i will have to if the blue person tells me something, or maybe to explore it in its entirety
No I went in the opposite direction I went up from that room
thank you so much btw
I still do not know how much of what i say is bullshit (I asume like 90%)
there is so much different tech that are just not told to you (or not intended??)
well, getting spears in the ground seems like something you should code, so it has to be intended
especially because most of tech is not intended
but emergent with the procedural animation system of the game
oh right
and this confirms that it is not needed to finish the game
the limbs and everything looks like it is generated by the physics engine
the first time i crippled a leg from a lizard and saw him stumble was when i saw the potential
And now there's an entire subcommunity dedicated to movement
They are freaks
Okay, I'm going to eat some lunch and I will see if i can squeeze some playtime before heading of to work
modders/speedrunners/techbros, all freaks
Since you are NOT figuring out ||CTFs|| on your own, I think I should be good to give you an idea...
||So a CTF (crawl turn fly) is where you can fly on the spot vertically...
The issue here is that it's a frame perfect move. Get one frame of input wrong, and you fall right back to the ground. Some people have mastered this and have managed to fly hundreds (?) of blocks vertically iirc. All frame perfect||
Should spoiler maybe
Tbh, I'm actually on the lower end of hours for what I've completed
and i will be part of them soon enough
There is a rwsc that can be submitted to the leaderboards

It is about a movement tech that isnāt realistically possible unless you spend lots of time training to do it
It wonāt hinder you gameplay to know of it but I wouldnāt recommend learning it till you have completed everything
I got it submitted to the emotes for this server so it may cycle in one day š„¹
oooh, i hope it will be fine
Ooh nice
WHAT?
you can fly?
well, that sounds game breaking
i donāt even know how would i try that
In TAS? Yes. In RTA? Not really.
okay, so maybe i should give it a look?
No, not really.
they are a completely different experience from the base game, but they're fun in their own way
can't wait until you get to them
that was a lot to backread through including all the replies from tankium that were also broken on my end 
discord is terrible with multiple replies in a row
yeah, once i went and back read the original messages some of them loaded but discord makes it so annoying
that sounds nice
are they alike between them?
like is it a continuation?
since the watcher only looked like one slugcat
so is it significantly shorter or does it change the playable experience a lot?
The Watcher is... weird.
And no, they're not continuations, Vanilla, Downpour, and Watcher are all separate canons. (not to mention a few extra canons)
the second mainly
one slugcat with a lot more content
wait did we get watcher confirmed as a separate canon already 
I don't want to call it the same cannon as Vanilla, because not everyone has it.
its better to treat each dlc as a seperate canon i think
(although i havent beaten all of watcher yet so idk yet
)
yeah since watcher is unfinished it's still kind of up to interpretation 
I just want Watcher to be a seperate canon because I dont like it /silly 
what? it is not finished?
did i bought a early access dlc?
To be fair, there are a lot of things up for interpretation in Downpour and Vanilla too.
oh, i forgot to tell yāall
I went down the left path here. I have seen that it connects to chimney canopy
and another path below that one that goes to the dark place with the green fireflies
i guess it loops back to the exterior since iām going down
i also saw a path to the left in some island that had yellow lizards so maybe is a path for sky islands(?)
but i couldnāt play more (rn at work)
I guess i will have to grind a bit of karma (lost a ton getting used to gravity again lol) and i can directly go to the communication tower if it connects to sky island
if not, thereās no problem since i have already explored the part that connects to the chimney canopy(earlier in the playthrough) so i wonāt get lost
do people like more downpour or watcher?
i would imagine downpour if the watcher is unfinished
but idk, maybe itās pure gold as a dlc
seeing how good rain world is, being an unknown game
From what I've seen is that people like more downpour since it's more finished
And watcher is a little Unfinished and people don't really like that
Though there's other reasons as well that I can't exactly say for spoiler reasons but yeahh
Watcher... feels weird.
I see
I guess it will make sense the more i play, but i feel all my playthrough felt weird
i just noticed i have a yellow slugcat in my name
can i change the color or something?
Well, as you level up, it'll change.
oh shit
Itās that the level up that a bot DMās me about from time to time?
or does some mod (from the server) level me up when i finish slugcatās stories?
By talking here, you level up. You get specific icons at specific levels.
thatās cool
Yes
I just saw the 1100 message mark in this thread
I didnāt thought it was going to get that long
(well i didnāt even thought someone was going to reply at first soā¦)
Lol
Oh btw, to the new people here, sometimes i try and theorize while im at work as currently it is very chill (end of summer so less sales)
So i was thinking about a specific line that the pink guy told me
(im assuming he is a guy but i could find a better fitting word, maybe android as he has a mechanical limb like the blue person)
i donāt really remember the exact line
it was something like āIām a god like creature compared to you. You the unknowing recipient, I the reluctant gift, the noble benefactors?ā
okay so
a lot of things now
first, the pink guy calls himself go-like compared to me and he is at the same time just a gift
So i guess some people (the benefactors) long disappeared in this land (maybe) at this point build this creatures (pink and blue person) to help other creatures. Maybe not someone as stupid as a slugcat but another type
that would be nice, i recorded it but half my screen was blocked and i didnāt noticed
||`. . .
...is this reaching you?
A little animal, on the floor of my chamber. I think I know what you are looking for.
You're stuck in a cycle, a repeating pattern. You want a way out.
Know that this does not make you special - every living thing shares that same frustration. From the microbes in the processing strata to me, who am, if you excuse me, godlike in comparison.
The good news first. In a way, I am what you are searching for. Me and my kind have as our purpose to solve that very oscillating claustrophobia in the chests of you and countless others. A strange charity - you the unknowing recipient, I the reluctant gift. The noble benefactors? Gone.
The bad news is that no definitive solution has been found. And every moment the equipment erodes to a new state of decay. I can't help you collectively, or individually. I can't even help myself.
For you though, there is another way. The old path. Go to the west past the Farm Arrays, and then down into the earth where the land fissures, as deep as you can reach, where the ancients built their temples and danced their silly rituals. The mark I gave you will let you through.
Not that it solves anyone's problem but yours.`||
omg
this is so useful, okay letās analyze
okay, iāll write in a few minutes
some clients got in
so ready for the theories 
first (i havenāt read the transcript yet) i want to tell you something that has bugging me a lot since my first 4/5 hours of the playthrough
and itās that in the intro of the game we see that slugcats live in some type of packs or communities (around a tree, at least ours)
but I am yet encountered another slugcat
i know there are more for the DLCs but i havenāt seen another one in game
AND in the cutscene we look very tiny, but in gameplay we look like average size, i donāt have another slugcat to compare sizes but if i were double my size like adult slugcats are in the original cutscene i would be more or less a lizard
and that does not seem like a natural prey for this creatures
sooo, something fishy is happening, or iām just trying to pull strings
But that got me a lot more strangled out when my yellow guide initially lured me to a direction using the symbol and holograms of more slugcats, but now itās only about the pink, blue android and their colored flies
So iām not entirely sure if we are just another creature that got pulled over really far away from our house in a flood
or the yellow guide maybe implanted the memories to give us a porpouse that he could use so we complete some mission
but why not give me the mission he wanted from the start then? maybe the slugcat is to stupid and family=good is a safer bet
okay, now that i have all of that out of my system, letās see the transcript
really good thinking you have there
okay
so still not read the whole thing
but the middle part gets my interest a lot
āMe and my kind have as our purpose to solve that very oscillating claustrophobia(cycle) in the chest of you countless othersā¦. I the reluctant gift. The noble benefactors? Gone.ā
interesting use of oscillating but anyways
this creatures are ābuiltā (or tasked) to give some creatures the ability to scape the cycles
Earlier in this thread i commented how i think the cycles may be a glimpse of times you died, but only advance when you find shelter since you survived
So getting out of the cycles could be not having to jump from one ātimelineā to another when you die. Ending a weird type of immortality
So the gift that these guys give other creatures is something like death
that would explain why the benefactors (i would guess the creators of this creatures or the ones that designed the plan to end the cycles) are gone
they have scaped the cycles long ago, whatever if that means dying or not
So i would be compelled to imagine that the benefactors are not the computer wizards in the depths (my initial guess when i first read the line), they are āmereā keepers of whatever lies ahead
This obviously does not explain (yet) why we are the only known slugcat, and who are the echoes

maybe they are just glimpses of people that have gone out of the cicles, just entering to contact another one, or just the remaining a of what something once was
letās continue reading the transcript
Cool theories!!!
okay āno definitive solution has been foundā is really interesting
maybe the benefactors havenāt exited the cycles, they transformed in to another thing
maybe the echoesĀæ?
āI canāt help you collectively, or individually. I canāt even help myselfā makes sense
he is not able to let go of this place and find the depths even though he knows where it is
he is attached to the huge machine
maybe the blue person tried to scape her own machine and was left in the look to the moon pond with 5 flies around her, making it loose a lot of memories and maybe lost her objective
Also, it is pretty interesting that regions even have names in game
This is so cool!!!!!
like, i get it being a video game but having actual names for the characters is interesting.
Idk many games that don't have names for characters
āThe ancientsā could be a potential contenders for the benefactors even if the pink guy seems condescending
I would also be a little annoyed about my creators if they let me rooting away in a world iām trying to scape
oh yeah, I meant for the region (my bad, didnāt clarify)
itās interesting that there is a really strong sense of different regions (as supported by the existence of karma gates)
Very weird topic as well
Donāt really get the point yet, but something build them having the rain in mind, as it looks like (very random thought that maybe doesnāt make sense) the gates use water from the rain to cool down the resistance activated when used
At least thatās what makes the only one use per cycle have sense in game
So i would not imagine that whatever caused the rains to begun comes after the disappearance of an advance society(the ancients), as they had to build the gates (unknown use) having the rain in mind
And i think thatās all
40 hours deep and picking up some clues
thatās all the spam, iāll guess now i will wait for everyone to read the very big wall of text and see what you think about it
true, i specifically meant being canon to each other though
it was a rushed release 
by the time you're finished with downpour though, watcher will likely have everything devs planned it to
challenge roles are what can give you fancy colors 
this is a really good theory 
oh yeah, taking in to acount my speed by the time i finish downpour i will be in retirement home, seesh
i would love to have one
i definitely recommend you get one when you have the chance 
(totally not someone who has 6 of them)
is there oficial merch?
I am about little worried (no really) about the very sparse comments tankiun and you have made about the theories surrounding the pink-android theory
maybe i was just rambling about random nonsense
lol
well, it feels like this game is about rambling until something will click
tbf iām trying to understand things that iām not sure have a real answer as the game itself very vague (for now)
wait which part 
i read everything maybe i just forgot to say something
yeah there is, by sanshee
i would recommend completing more of rain world though before looking, there's some spoilers on the site and with some of the plushies
I love the theorizing, looking forward to more.
oh daam, i will look in to it after playing more then
im glad
I'm 470h deep and I hope mine will be delivered soon!!!!
My first
Imo they are my favourite parts of the lore which is also imo one of the best parts of the game
when iām able to play at home i have to try something
i donāt think it will work but i donāt lose anything trying
if throwing spears in a direction makes you go in that direction in zero gravity, why not in normal gravity, but i havenāt noticed it yet
maybe i can boost myself a little bit throwing things in the direction i want to go
thatās cool, i will wait for the game to get a little more explicit in those topics, since it is very loose
though i can send links if you wanted one soon 
i donāt think i know how to get to the right of this room
who would you even get 
maybe iām not āsupposedā to go across
definitely not easy 
i little survivor or maybe the glowy puppies once i discover a bit what to do with them
a bat fly would be hella cute
who????? 
there's no official batfly or glowing puppies unfortunately, but there are fanmade plushies of them that are good quality
sanshee has things like lizards and slugcats and the monkeys you got the names spoiled of 
uuuuh
scavengers could be a good plushie
i think some pink lizard or the survivor would be nice
i have tried again and again and i think this isnāt achievable for my skill level yet
but one day i will comeback and do it
you might need something else to help you with it
generally it's intended to come from the other side though
the yellow lizards on the top left, maybe there is something from sky islands up there
oh okay
better if i donāt lose a lot of time in the same thing
but i will check the top left nonetheless
letās see what it has to offer
doesn't mean you can't try though
it's just difficult, yeah
wait
did this little fucker prepared a bomb just at the bottom so i would try to pick it up and attack me?
ups
i didnāt wanted to resent it
this is so beautiful
okay, i have explored everything i wanted, so now i guess i will have to go to chimney canopy
i got surprised by the bomb so i started looking at my surroundings since i have only see them been used by scavengers
and found the worst guy imaginable
it feels so long ago when i was in this region, in kinda nostalgic lol
i think i want more theories 
do you have a list of every available merch by chance ? its for a friend 
i think for now i have tried almost everything i have seen
well
i havenāt revisited the dialogue from the six grains of gravel something echo
but i didnāt recorded that one :(
nothing alike lol
they have so strange name
just the official ones? 
for a friend huh...
they also have vinyl records and youtooz figures, don't know if they have the figures anymore though
if you ever want dialogue we can send it for you 
you have survival skills that i don't 
everything you want 
ill go impose in your thread then 
and even when we get them we forget 
Who needs survival skills? 
can you get me the six grains of gravel one?
i donāt remember there was anything interesting but just to make sure
iām going to be so sad if i have lost the nineteen spades dialogue just because i went before knowing how to talk
`We can feel your presence, little creature.
Your attunement has become... much closer to ours.
The mark you received is an unimaginable gift.
The struggle, the cycles...
It can all fade, like a morning mist beneath the glory of the sun.
We found a way.`
oh
si there is a way then
and have been founded by the echoes of whatever the echoes were before
this doesnāt look like it contradicts my previous thoughts
but we will see
ābeneath the glory of the sunā is maybe something i would not expect
as iām going to go in to the depths, that doesnāt sound like a lot of sun, maybe the temples have some sun or maybe there are two different ways
the old path and the echoes path
i guess the X in a circle could resemble a sun, and itās just a hint that i need to get to the depths with the highest karma available
Monk, <explodes from spoilers> and <explodes from spoilers>
I'm gonna tell you in my thread I suppose
Yeah there's pink lizor and survivor ones
Good spotting!!!
Head above the clouds!!
There's link to the merch page in #server-info (light don't look, spoiler)

thx ! Rat already gave me everything on my thread so its ok 
I see
now i wait one month and buy the rest and thats it
Five. Hundred. Scug plushies.
Rw lore is great
i have tried it and i think it does?
just a little
btw, you should know that i have been scared half of my playthrough since i discovered one horizontal plant that looked like a pole
i have been second guessing horizontal poles since then
finally got in to a shelter in sky islands and i forgot i had saved three of the shiny balls in this shelter
lol
i almost look like a crow
oh, I didnāt have a spear but a scavenger used his to open one of the red plant and didnāt take any of it, it just watched me eat until i was full and then went away with his friends
a real og
Oh gosh
Those are
The worst
Given me a heart attack AT LEAST five times
Lol
Okay, i know i shouldnāt look at others playthroughs as i havenāt finished mine yet
but it was very unfortunate (and funny) to see maxās meltdown in the part that i got stuck for some time due to the zero gravity
makes me more excited to relate to more people in their playthroughs when i finish
could call that an unfortunate... development
lol, definitely
I hope he doesnāt quit
but he was in five pebbles in his 56th cycle!!!
i got in there in my cycle 110th
every playthrough is definitely different
btw, what happens with my thread once i finish the playthrough? do I delete it?
Btw there's still a lot of spoiler to be seen even after you beat the game
Keep going!!!
huh? like do i just change the flair to hunter/monk and continue in the same one?
We don't want to rob your first playthroughs documentation from you
or do i create another one?
oh shit, okay. Iām not going to be able to consume rain worlds content in a long time then T-T
You can, you can also create new threads but I personally recommend using the one thread as long as you don't enable MSC or watcher
fair enough
I know you guys/galls/non-binary monarchs always tell me that there is no right answer buuut. Do you have any recommendations for what slugcat should I play after survivor?
I donāt know if a lot of things change, or is just a bit of difficulty change. If itās ājustā difficulty makes sense to play hunter because monk looks easier than survivor?
but i donāt know, yāall know a lot more so yeah, what is the recommendation?
feel free to reply as i would imagine each one would have a different preference
Monk is easier than survivor but hunter is very hard
You should play hunter for a bit before starting downpour imo (it's not a must though!!! Do what you want)
some people go everywhere very fast and are like "omg im stuck i cant take it" if only they knew 
big explosion
I thought so :( /s
also same advices as Tankium
Drive more tanks
Okay, note it
None of the lizards can eat you when YOUR IN A TANK!!!!!!! MWAHAHAHAAHHAHAHHHAAAA!!!!!!!!1111
I love the assumption that iām going to drop hunter before completing him
its a universal experience

We will see i guess, you have went through this before

i for one only beat hunter after ive beaten all of the downpour campaigns
Same
unless...
fortunately its not that bad
going all the way to five pebbles and dying to some yellow lizards trying to get to the deepths would beā¦
shit, it is worse that itās not that bad because then i will want to try it
If it were once life I would not even attempt it
btw, i have read MSC before
what is it?
i think thats a good thing
more content to consume 
true
but the thing that this game doesnāt seem to lack is content
you all have so much hours in this game and i imagine is for a reason
and then community challenges, I am not going to stop playing this
More slug cats
oh
what
so there are even more slugcats?
i know downpour and watcher have
there is a 3rd DLC?
downpour includes the msc expansion
or is it a mod?
the slugcats advertised as being part of downpour are colloquially known as msc slugcats
aaaah, okay okay
so that is why itās not included in vanilla
what a curious concept, to have DLCs that you can enable or disable to customize your experience
its really cool yeah
especially with downpour which is split into like 3 different parts and you can enable each one individually
MSc adds 5 scugs
what does downpour have apart from the MSC?
Im not sure (I canāt find it), but i think Rattuse implied that there were more things in downpour, but maybe iām just misremembering
oh yeah, something called jolly coop appeared when i bought the DLCs
i remember because is such a cute name
but i donāt know the other thing (or maybe jolly coop is part of the watcher)
five?
there should be another thing called expeditions in the remix menu that's from the downpour dlc, and there is also more gamemodes added to arena
jolly coop is part of downpour though yeah
allows for local co-op
.......yup!
you can document rwsc when you get to them in your threads too by the way 
dont monksus me....
hunterknowing
what does the expeditions do?
maybe itās spoilers idrk
i donāt know what rwsc is, rain world second character? iām sorry, today iām feeling a bit slow
Server Challenges! You can find the info in #challenge-info , however the doc does continue soilers for vanilla, so it's recommended you play through the first 3 campaigns 
i think, dont trust me on this, i dont have any certifications
Lets go!!
i can explain when you make a downpour thread 
don't want to risk it here since it's technically dlc content
May you explain in my thread ? I haven't actually checked it out at allš
sure 
can I go and read it (only that)?
or does it have to many spoilers for me?
nah, thanks, all the help is apreciated
im always surprised by how many people join and have helped me ^^
i think they meant expeditions 
Ohhhh whoopsies, I thought they replied to a diff messageš
Uhhh probably not actually? My thread contains a bunch of spoilers that I wouldn't wont want you to seeš
light, you could make a downpour thread now, and just have it there in advance for whenever you plan to start downpour (if you don't mind seeing the names of the downpour slugcats in the tags)
Oh yeah
i thought the threads disappeared after a bit being inactive
but makes sense, tankiun said that this thread would still be there after i finish so yeah
i can make the thread that i will use eventually
Nope! After a week they stop showing in your recents but you can still dig through the threads and find yours
perfect
yeah
so server challengens and expeditions are different things? oh right, the challengers were for the cool badges
Challenges = Cool badges
Expeditions = Ingame mode
makes sense
just created the other thread, it starts with āplaceholderā
huh, in the tags there was a slugcat that i donāt recognize from the trailers
downpour slugcat spoiler: ||inv||
i guess iāll learn that later, maybe it is a secret
....
ops
sorry, didnāt realize its spoiler
iām going to try and mark it (havenāt done it before)
oh no, it doesnāt work that way
how do you do it?
it is indeed for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy later
thanks, i got it
yup! 
maybe i can play a bit now, i already cooked dinner and finished it
everything is way later on this game lol
and i love that
there is so so much stuff
I only thought this was a silly ecosystem game
daam
im at 44 or something like that and i have one vanilla region left
but yeah, if we include downpour iām doomed
im sure i will be in regions i donāt know by the 150th mark
Have fun on your scug adventuresš
Yeah?
without spoiling, in which point are you? like how many characters have you ābeatenā?
Hmmmm
There's not a definite way to say that, this game isn't linear, everyone takes their own path
All I can really give you is that I have 70 hours and I've beaten 2 campaigns
yeah, i got that from my 10 hours in filtration stuck at the begginkng of my playthrough
daam
you are so far ahead
The 2nd one was a lot faster
Approach at your own pace!
There's millions of things to discover in this silly game
tbh i donāt think is going to be the case
at least it wonāt if i want to do hunter
Hunter!! 
if itās some downpour slugcat maybe
Yeah, I did a downpour slugcatš
Where are you currently?
yeah
right now i just got out of the wall, and got through chimeney canopy quickly bcs i wanted to go to sky islands
I want to try and go to communication array to see if i can find an echo there
so I have the theory that you need high karma to see them
so Iām karma farming right now
Karma
yeah, a place in sky islands, when i first went there i just had the same sentation i got when i encountered nineteen spades earlier
Ohhhhh
so i thought that maybe something like that would be there
this is my plan right now
i just got myself landed closer to sky islands than shoreline so i changed the order
Sounds like a good plan
okaaay
see you around
i remember this silly little horizontal fucker from 25 hours ago, it wonāt get me again
seeing that they can go horizontal after only seeing vertical is terrifying
yeah
i got so fucking scared
sometimes i just remember their existence and i get anxious for the next 5 minutes when poles are in a room
it is the second time i have seen one of the plants that look like poles eat a giant masked bird
and it wakes up some buried fear inside me
<@&1121561237826838600>...
flytarp
at least the first time i knocked the bird on one of their wings so it would get close to the plant, but this time it just happened on the background, making it somehow more terrorĆfic
I keep loosing advancements in the chieftain achievement and the only things i have done is eating the scarabs with the blue and green tiny balls
uh oh !
i thought the chieftain achievements had something to do with the scavengers
maybe it isnāt
or maybe those scarabs are their pets? or some type of weird previous form that they take?
i kinda thought that the glowing puppies from shaded citadel was the pet/babies of this people
maybe scavengers have different pets depending on the region they live in
i'm enjoying your theories...
its nice to take a peek into the minds of other ppl
well, i always thought of them as nomads, but there are some merchants
maybe there is a tribe system(?)
i guess that is a little too complicated though
have you read what i think about the pink guy from five pebbles?
nothings too complicated for rain world! this game in itself is very very complicated
i have not... i shall go look though!
omg, that is so sad
gug sisyphusš
wait
i'm waiting..............
this
there is also the boundless six grains or something like that
but this one is less interesting
and i think there are some previous theories but i donāt remember
Bright Malus seems to like them
i enjoy them too
whait!?

just maybe, i could give them food and they could befriend me
I tried it before with the glowing puppies but they were too scared
ugh fine ill hop back on rain world š„¹ have safe travels, im gonna go back to my thread
so maybe i have to try it with something more neutral, or something that does not fear me in general
what a pity that i canāt read it
one day i hope i can do it
btw
what does the glowy eye slugcat emote in the thread mean?
it will most likely be soon! you're very thorough
its just a silly reaction, not much rhyme or reason behind it
well, this game has so much to offer
oh i see
so true
i just tried it and throwing things to boost you like in zero gravity works a lot better when getting out of poles than white a normal jump
i should try doing it in a leap or something
oh daam
it also works when i leap
and i just died to the giant bird with a mask
it isnāt that bad since i was protected with the strange energy flower
maybe i should try and get one of the birds masks so lizards donāt annoy me as much trying to get to communication arrays
all this time thinking it was going to be something here and finally, a colored shiny ball
fantastic
well, i guess I have checked one task on the list
so, letās see how to get to the garbage wastes to get the wanderer and go to see if the blue android talks
what even is that hanging fruit?
its a fruit thats hanging 
wait
huh
i think i need some guidance right now
I just got the scholar
i donāt have a clue what did i do
I thought it was going to be appear if i talked with another creature
maybe it was just surviving in the X karma
or maybe it has something to do either way the colored balls (i picked one in the communication arrays
but yeah
im pretty lost
can i ask what happened?
the scholar is associated with the shiny orbs! i dont know how much im allowed to reveal so im just gonna say thatš„¹
well if it seemed to change when you did that, it may be something to keep in mind especially for your future campaigns so you can experiment with it further 
interesting
well the only thing i know is that the shiny balls are the same as the flies from the pink guy in five pebbles
But if the thing that i said long ago (about the pink guy using those things to remember what happened, and the blue android being clueless about everything because it has lost its memories) makes sense that the achievement is āhistory lessonsā as the colored flies could be memories or something alike to the androids
this is trying to connect very random dots to be fair
oh wow, the scholar achievement is (from the ones that i have) the one with the least players achieved
only 5.4%
im going to sleep now, its so late here
huzzah!
First time I seen them go horizontal was in arena mode (I spawned a bunch of them as I was fascinated)
Also god I have a lot of reading to do not just here but in many threads
I'm still learning (470h in game)
It's freaky
The Spain region
We love learning
Me when the array communicates
I had one case where I got 2 with 1 pole
See!!! Felping is fun
See!!! Felping is fun
Scarabs?????
Meanwhile me, a from the depths player
Yus!!!
DW u will when u see all the things!!
It's awesome having the freedom to open up any thread
It's still crazy how you noticed that yourself

yes
yes i enjoy 
we all enjoy!!
think about how big its abs must be to hold itself up horizontally for so long 
gigapolechad
lol
I didnāt take a photo, they are like small bugs that goes pretty fast with some type of eggs or something in their backs that can be green or blue. If you hit them with a spear they get all the eggs out and you can eat them individually
oh those things
lol
I went 150 hours without knowing that
Found the ||upside down|| ones like 120hrs in on ||the wall|| but when I found my first horizontal one I think some of my soul died
there is one horizontal at ||the wall||
although i think that might be a downpour thing tbh
should i look at those spoilers?
Okay, so a few things
i was trying to backtrack to chimney cannopies with the colored flies but is proving to be rather difficult
but in one (of a lot of tries) farming for karma and going to the right i daphne out i can store a flor in my stomach!!!!
huge, buecause survivor tried to eat it all the time (and i have already eaten a lot in five pebbles, the the sorry is enough)
Nummy
so Iām using a passage to the look to the moon region, and see the reaction
i remember i had more shiny balls and colored ones there so i can see her reaction anyway, i donāt need the two that i had in sky islands, because maybe they just say cool and keep staring at nothing
oh, apparently i didnāt have colored shiny balls in the shelter next to the blue android, weird, i remember having them
Well, if they respawn i will be able to grab it
last time the android dint react, letās see this time
first, weāll see if it can talk
maybe they donāt even have the menories of lenguaje
wtf is that?
looks like my yellow guide incubating
oh, maybe itās because I(without knowing) threw a spear to my blue guide two cycles ago and itās regenerating somehow?
Oh, the white glowing thing in the pipe?
That's what we call a slugcat.

Very rare occurence to see one. Make sure to cherish the moment.
Oh, you mean the yellow thing in the top.
I dunno. Touch it and see if it doesn't kill you?


you saying you found out you can stomach store them?????
this game is very realistic
is that rotated
Those flies are so tasty that even if you're full, you always find room to snack on one more fly.

yeah but u can spit it back out like years later
letās fucking go, the blue android talks
so they were talking to me for like half an hour and i just sorted there and kept staring a few day ago lol
it just whithered away to the left
there were three of them in that room
i hope i just stored it, if i have to go back to the five pebbles just because im a morton is going to be a little frustrating
oh, the pink guy is called five pebbles
so they are the whole machine? not just using it?
so the blue android did lost all the memories
we need to give it a name
i guess it has to be either Shoreline or Looks to the moon
Looks to the moon is to long, so maybe shoreline is easier
but, the echoes and the androids all had names with more than one word
i guess it will be looks to the moon
oh yeah, and they called the colored flies neurons
they also said that the scavengers (finally know the name in game) get them things (I would imagine the shiny balls shingle itās what they treasure, and that is the reason the area is so filled with them
Who knows? Maybe the blue robot is called Shoreline instead.
Or they have a completely different name.

true
:( the yellow shiny ball is not where i found it last time
maybe it disappead
Maybe.
Well, I gave it to looks to the moon last time
so maybe they just took it
Apparently there are more androids in the world
well, i donāt have a lot more to do by now, go to garbage wastes for the wanderer achievement, or just head off to the depths
if i find a shiny ball close to looks to the moon maybe i backtrack
but iām already casing in 50 hours in my first playthrough
OH SHIT
the blue rock plant thing transforms in to food when you get it wet
this is huge omg
There could be more shiny balls nearby. Might need to explore the place a bit.
Thatās the one
It was during my ||SM|| campaign thatās right
If you want to, I wouldnt suggest it tho, we spoil things here so that we can talk abt stuff without spoiling your experience
With more extensive conversations it would be best to move elsewhere where, such as your own threads or #spoiler-bigenderal
Yes ofc
(such as the one thatās happening here)
No worries!!
Itās up to op too but if itās something they canāt even read or participate in itās usually best to just not hold those convos here 
its not really that spoilery
Yeah I get that
Mostly just region names yeah, just didnāt wanna risk it
YESSSS!!!!
donāt worry, you can talk about it. But throw a warning before, because some people have spoiler tagged text in game or little downpour details that i ask
so if you say if i can click it before or after the message is fine by me
Oh right this is a vanilla thread
no dp discussion here anyway
COOLEST THREAD!!!š„ š„ š„ š„
oh wow that is this?


is that a construction like five pebbles but it got destroyed?
His name is actually John Andrews
what can destroy something that big if the ancients have long been away
well, they are not made to transcend apparently and they get mad
maybe the android inside gave up and just exploded
Yooooo he discovered that too
the orange embryo have started to appear and when i touch the it looks like they want me to go to some place
dude, how many objectives those this game have?
(it didnāt looked like there were more shiny balls near looks to the moon)
I fell in to the water while holding one
this also explains something i havenāt understand before
As many as you want it to have
when i was stuck on subterranean one time i tried to scape and found something that looked like a bubble. Apparently it was one of this blue rock fruits but got itself in the water
and i was so confused about what the fuck it was
It was actually a fish bowl
fishtank rwsc
oh btw, i had a question
maybe i have already talked about this in the thread
but iām not sure
today i got curious and entered the āRemixā option and show a thing called rain world remix, it sounded nice but i didnāt want to make things easier or destroy the vanilla experience
so should i enable it?
I donāt think it is a DLC(?)
Remix is mainly QoL options
be careful reading through some of the options' descriptions as you might accidentaly get name dropped
here you go 
congratz on big progress also
thx
well u donāt fell like i have progressed a lot
but at least i have given looks to the moon one neuron more
maybe one day i could try and go to five pebbles and bring more but i feel like it wouldnāt do anything
looks to the moon more dumped me about the madness but i feel like i need to look for more androids
but i donāt know where would they be tbh
and the yellow guide has completely stoped saying anything since i went to the exterior
but they still pops up sometimes
he is somewhat popin
oh so there are tips since i enabled remix
i didnāt knew there was reputation systems, at least outside the scavengers
this feeds more in to the idea that maybe i can train a creature to be with me if I give them food
yeah remix changes a lot of things
it looks like it
i died to the rain so i have to have the looks to the moon dialogue with the five pebblesās neuron
got me thinking
if they are not made to transcend, does that mean they are not build to go to the depths and do what i have to do? or does it mean something else
they can not die?
and they apparently know that i got to five pebbles disregarding that i would be able to find another android since i donāt look like i can go further enough
so yeah, maybe there arenāt more androids in the playable game, just in the lore
i guess some day i will try and give them one more neuron but I donāt have a lot of hope of that restoring, or changing anything
so interesting theories 
i used die to mean get outside of the cycles (I still donāt know if that has any correlation but yeah)
still good theories
oh, reading closely five pebbles has he/him pronouns
doesnāt make sense that an android/computer like them need it
so maybe the ancients (assuming they are the benefactors) builded them to look like the society they had
I guess the ancients have pronouns and sexes then
Ćf i may suggest you to do one thing
makes me rethink my theory about the echoes being ancients outside of the cycles or just the glimpse of what was left behind, they look rather agender (at least for me)
is paying attention to the wall drawings at the exit of five pebbles
the ones with drawings of a society and the karma symbols until the one with the arrow?
shit
i thought i took photos of them
but got to excited about getting the X karma symbol that i didnāt lol
okay, i will go and first seek the weird yellow embryo and if that doesnāt do anything i will try and go visit my friend five pebbles
that way i can snag a neuron or two
ooooh
thanks
this dialogue makes me want to go to communications array once more but i literally just went there this morning
there wasnāt anything
just a colored shiny ball that I saved on a shelter

oh shit
wats happening
so they do have some reproduction ritual, very possibly leading to gender
I feel like i should be extracting more from this
Do not try to work around the filter, its there for a reason
interesting that there are two ancients until the forth symbol
five pebbles did say that they performed silly rituals in their temples in the depths, so maybe this is one of them
If i try to connect them maybe they found that merging between two ancients would make them go higher up in karma, making getting out of the cycles possible
but the next step would be eating a lot?
i will try and think about it more this afternoon at work

i never realized what these are
they looked like random scribbles to me
but now it kinda makes sense to me with all the other stuff i know? at least three of those murals
weird that im learning stuff in another person's thread
i think it wont be the last time that happens 
I think i remember some orange embryo in this room last cycle but i donāt see them here anymore
maybe in just misremembering
let me know if you want these off 
found some more, it looks like they are trying to get me to shaded citadel
if they are just doing the yellow guides work because i speared it and they are trying to get me again to five pebblesā¦
oh, it is fine
i hope they donāt spoiler much
I also have this funny thing now
i donāt know what they are
maybe checkpoints as i donāt have one discovered, possibly garbage wastes
i donāt get why i donāt have any point filled in shoreline to be honest
they'll provide small hints towards the meanings of some passages, some mechanics, and movement tips
do you maybe remember seeing similar symbols while playing?
oh shit
is it like the outline of something
i donāt remember anything that resembles it no
I hope it gets more apparent if I see something alike from now on
the arrow did change when i got to shaded citadel
so there has to be some connections to regions
there are so much flying orange ghosts now in the lower part of shaded citadel
hum
it looks like they are going both ways
huh
i donāt really know where to go
just noticed that i can pass through the red big aquatic plants if i go very slowly
I donāt like asking directly where to go
but in here and even if i go through the pipe i get the same thing, the orange ghosts going in both left and right
don't worry about it too much for right now
I camed from the right, went to the left and hibernated in that shelter. I went through the pipe and have gone to the left and right, in both directions the ghosts look like they are heading the opposite one
i will ask you this though: ||what do you think caused the ghosts to appear?||
oh, did i skip something important to activate this? like the depths
i would guess the same as the echoes? the gift from five pebbles
well, the high karma
their general purpose is to ||lead players to the crypts||
the memory crypts?
yes
oh right
so i should have seen them the first time i went to the leg?
but i just ignored them?
okay i see
so i am not going to achieve anything new following them
(well maybe there are more things that i can do in five pebbles, but that isnāt what i mean)
yeah basically 
nice to know
thanks
okay, so I donāt feel like going outside to search shiny balls (or colored ones) since they disappeared for no reason in looks to the moon (the place not the android) or backtracking to five pebbles once more to get another neuron (to maybe not get any dialogue)
I guess tonight i will use a passage and venture in to the depths, letās see if that is the end
after that (if it isnāt the end or i can continue in the save) I could try and search for garbage wastes and go to looks to the moon either with a colored shiny ball or a five pebblesās neuron
seems like good ideas 
right now Iām heading of to work, but i will continue tonight
In the meantime if someone is so kind to send the text that looks to the moon says to you the first time, and when you give them a five pebblesās neuron i would love to re-read them and think about them
hope work goes well 
(and obviously i will be revisiting the drawings in five pebbles ascension)
yeaaah, at the end of summer is very chill (kinda boring sometimes) but it is what it is

btw, Ratude and malus, do you have all the achievements? (iām assuming that the platform you play in have the same achievements as steam)
or are the achievements very hard to obtain?
i'm missing four of them
one of them is ironically enough one you get for beating the game the first time š„¹ i didn't play it on steam initially
lol
well, four of them is very few
are you trying to get them or just playing another aspect of the game that does not involve achievements?
(Iām asking since almost all of the ones i got where organically achieved playing normally. But i donāt know if things in the hundreads of hours tend to be a lot more obscure)
`Hello little creature.
What are you? If I had my memories I would know...
You must be very brave to have made it all the way here. But I'm sorry to say your journey here is in vain.
As you can see, I have nothing for you. Not even my memories.
Or did I say that already?
I see that someone has given you the gift of communication. Must have been Five Pebbles, as you don't look like you can travel very far...
He's sick, you know. Being corrupted from the inside by his own experiments. Maybe they all are by now, who knows. We weren't designed to transcend and it drives us mad.
It is good to have someone to talk to after all this time! The scavengers aren't exactly good listeners. They do bring me things though, occasionally...`
as for the neuron dialogue, what do you remember moon saying about it so i get the right one 
i'm currently playing mods, but yeah i plan to get all the achievements eventually 
wait i have to think
they said something about another andoids being out there
but they are not sure they are still alive
its ongoing
something about other androids getting mad, and explaining that five pebbles is worse that how he/she? remembers it
some achievements can take a very long time to get
another game i got this long to get achievements is binding of isaac 
`I am grateful - the relief is indescribable!
...
I could read a bit of Five Pebbles in this neuron before formatting it. His condition has severely deteriorated since last I heard of him. The frustration he feels is profound, and that angst has seeped into every part of him, every neuron.
We were supposed to help everyone, you know. Everything. That was our purpose: a great gift to the lesser beings of the world. When facing our inability to do so, we all reacted differently. Many with madness.
Some, out there, might still be trying. Communications have been bad for a long time, and by now I suspect most of us are isolated like me, or connected only in small groups.
But even back when we were all more or less connected there were those who reacted to their task with anger. I can only imagine they are angrier now, alone in their cans, left only with their insatiable drive.
But to be honest, I don't know how many of us are still alive at this point.`
Okay, I just got into my work
in a few minutes i will read the texts and look more in to the images
thatās my tboi achievement progression
recently got all the marks in normal marks, now i have to do the other ones
(donāt want to say specific words as it could be spoilers for repentance and someone wants to play it)
now iām extremely tempted
got confused getting out of my house and brought my steam deck by mistake in my work bag
(I only have around 450 hours but i feel i have been playing it for so long)
canāt believe that i have less hours in my favorite roguelike than the ones yāall have in a survival platformer lol
Last thing until i start with the theory spam. Recently I got the kenshi gifted by one friend. I have literally never heard of the game, but he talked about it in a way that remind me about the feelings that i have for rainworld
does anyone here have played it before?
oh, so five pebbles got corrupted by some experiments?
is that all the blue tentacles that exist in the area?
he didnāt look like he had anything in him
maybe whatever that is causes the gravity fields to turn on and off
if there are more androids in low key scared of finding them if they are as angry as looks to the moon thinks
okay, i donāt think there is a lot more i can get from this dialogues
A lot of it kinda continues the running theories
Im very intrigued by this image five pebbles showed me
Like wtf does he mean
the thing in the top middle kinda reminds me of an entrance of filtration system (but maybe in just trying to project the little i know in other things)
but i donāt know if he cares that much as he later on tells me straight up to up to farm arrays and the go down
but the symbols?
is he trying to tell me that is not enough to go with the karma symbol of the arrow? that iām going to need the X in the circle?
and the bottom part yeah, no idea to be honest
letās see the murals
si first thing, it does not look like the ancients are the same in each drawing
so maybe itās not a continuous ritual that the same people have to advance through
but they do have the karma symbol that you get when each cycle passes
So i donāt know if maybe the ancients changed physically either each cycle or they are just portaging different characters
it is also interesting to see each karma symbol being represented with actual things that the ancients are wearing while the last one just has it cross it out in their eyes
Each day iām more and more curious about the karma symbol that nineteen spades have me
Like, is there an alternate karma scale that i could had gotten?
why would i want more karma but not the gift of communication?
and i feel this answers are not going to be found in the depths tbh
if the echoes really are a reminescents of the ancients why would they give me different karma from the androids?
i canāt bring my mind out of this
I have to many ways of reading this
is this ways their societies fell? and thatās what caused the cycles to begin? so they had to live all of that behind to transcend the cycles?
because the 4th could be easily be seen as gluttony, and the second one as lust
I guess the third one could be greediness as they look like they are trading something, or making some type of law
the last one maybe the act of some war? to protect???
and the first one is the most difficult one
Like there is one in top of the other, is it like dominance?
Maybe itās the flaws of a society that needed to be left behind?
- Power/Dominance
- Lust
- Greediness/Economy
- Gluttony
- War
So they builded the temples in the underground trying to hide away from everything and started doing rituals slowly getting closer to a high karma until they disappeared?
but idk, it could just be the steps for the ritual
Iām gonna try and not think a lot until i go to the depths tonight
I love this place
Pebble
Lol
I did not even realise this...
Definitely not
Oooooo
I... Did not know that.........
I dont lol
Okay, i somehow snatched a few minutes to play (not getting into trouble)
and i just panicked due to it being a short cycle and found another echo
Four needles i think itās called
It talked about having a name and its memories being kept here
I guess that still contributes to the echoes being something that remains from the ancients
what? looks to the moon?
very hard to spot
just saw that there were a lot cascades next to some plants and started to react when i got out of the cascade, so i kept watching the waves that you make when swimming
oh right, i was about to enter memory crypt
makes sense
are there a lot of shiny balls here for look to the moon?
donāt remember any tbh
The thread


I have 3000 in avorion
oh, thanks
ups just saw that i typed metroidvania when i wanted to say roguelike lol
havenāt heard of that game
Spaceship 3D modelling software
i have 1000 hours on the ps4 version of roblox
daam
i donāt think i have reached 1k in any game
maybe rocket league across steam and epic games
Don't worry I only have 2000 in terraria, 1000 in zero-k, 1000 in terra tech and 1000 in stellaris
Id have more in rain world by now but unfortunately I have a job and no life
It used to be the other way around you see

need 1k hours in ultrakill
kinda of get it
iām still in college so i donāt usually have a long term job but yeah
This is the first year that i want to end my academic life and start working
(currently on my second masterās degree)
I just work 6 hours a day in summer to have something for rent
but i donāt know, i canāt bring myself to playing that many hours
being a DnD/pf2e Dungeon master also consumes a lot time lol
I swear to god
If tonight I go to the depths and i die to a computer wizardā¦
it would be the most cruel and funny thing this game has done to me
funny š„¹
Indeed, TTRPGS, take a lot of time.
yeah I now know why that happens, I was confused when that happened to me too, it's a technical spoiler though so I won't tell you unless you reeaally want to know
nah, iām fine. If i donāt find it by myself in a few days i can ask again
btw, welcome to this thread
maybe a bit random but i love celeste, it was the game i played all the time last year (recently got a strawberry tattoo with red ink because of the game)
Hope it gets better for ya man
I hope i can get something while iām finishing my masters degree

@civic egret gratz ! i 100% isaac its one of my preferred games 
i have 1800 hours on it 
kenshi is incredible your friend has good taste
i played it and like rain world it is very unique (in other ways but still), made by only one guy, now a sequel is being made
the last one u know its name already 
anyway i love your thought process 
Iām a little confused, what are you referring to?
iām excited to play it, letās see if i have any time left this year taking into account rain world
okay, iām gonna play now (I leaved the game in the filtration system)
the last karma "war" sign
the game gives you its name
