Molding Misadventures (currently planning out future mod ideas... but not much else)

[lusty gate]

oh yeah, @strange mural you wanted to be pinged with feedback, I forgor

Not gonna leave my suggestion hidden in a wall of text

(might not be that good, but eh)

(Oh also, would patoma like feedback pings too? I'd guess yeah, but I'm unsure.)

[strange mural]

Uh I think so? Idk I'd rather ask them when they appear

Also thanks for feedback the idea does sound nice, just was unsure how original it would be. Verdant already kinda behaves like a parkour region

[lusty gate]

Ahh, yeah, I was wondering how likely it would be that there'd be another parkour one already.
Still could maybe work? But I'm sure there's other cooler ideas out there, that we just gotta discover first...

(also Looking forward to verdant now! I dunno when I'll get to it, but I'm sure I'll probably have a lot of fun there)

[olive comet]

needs lava too

[small lichen]

i read every single message in here anyways but sure :3

[strange mural]

New update:

• Mod is a bit more optimised and stable now (instead of some values being constantly in memory, they are only in memory when relevant, and unused code snippets are removed)
• Singularity bombs got inv graphics now, and lizards in Verdant Waterways got their colour changed to be more fitting for the region (might be changed again if yall find a better gradient for it)
• Ancient Urban mechanic removed, instead it will be getting a new one
• Shattered Terrace mechanic added (but requires the future zip to work fully)
• New Remix interface, completely overhauled Remix code, removed an option type that noone will use to free space for more option ideas
• Removed a few misc bugs, and added small changes to Desolate Tract mechanic and devmode option

[lusty gate]

Dangit, I keep not getting around to Looking, too busy lately...
And now with Silksong around the corner, I might go back to Hollow Knight and get the last few achievements I'm missing before that comes out!
Still might do a little more Looking before then at some point, though! I might have more time tomorrow, and I wanna at least try to get through Fetid Glen before taking an extended break.

[lusty gate]

Yep, I have indeed ended up with a bit of time! Time... for more Looking 👀

Ah, today's actually going much better! Feels like I've gotten used to adapting to the randomized controls!

Finding plenty of food in the form of batflies and noodleflies (the parents are somewhat easy to deal with in open flat spaces and a spear )

Nothing really to show, it just looks like normal gameplay except it looks like I keep forgetting what the controls are every room

Truly, an experience

(and also kinda fun and unique)

Basically to recap what I'm dealin with for anyone Looking at this who hasn't played, every time I enter a pipe (yes, any pipe), one of the following happens:

• Up and down are flipped (or unflipped if already flipped)
• Left and right are flipped (or unflipped)
• Either grab, throw or jump are swapped with one of the other of the three inputs
  And maybe other things I haven't noticed

Nothing is ever switched with the special button as far as I can tell, but that one doesn't do anything in the Looker anyway, so that doesn't actually matter.
But actually, it would be funny if that one was also accounted for, so I would for example have to sometimes jump with the Y button for example
Not that important though, this is already a good challenge

[strange mural]

tbh switching with special would also cause some buttons simply do nothing, which may be weird

[lusty gate]

It's funny how I've adapted so well to Looker mechanics... I might genuinely have trouble remembering Aether Ridge's normal layout from now on due to Looker muscle memory... which is perfect

[lusty gate]

Yeah, good point

I'd like it, extra evil misdirection, but I dunno if many others would

[strange mural]

May add an extra option that also adds Special, Map and Pause to the list of inputs

[lusty gate]

I'd use that

[strange mural]

Okay maybe not pause

[lusty gate]

True, that'd... yeah

but the other buttons! I would at least be very willing to try that. Could be a good extra option!

[strange mural]

Yeah

btw how do you feel about inviting new playtesters from time to time? How, or should it be done at all?

[lusty gate]

I'd be fine with more playtesters! No real opinion on how it should be done, but yep, sounds good

[strange mural]

btw hi @olive comet

[lusty gate]

I mostly started playing this mod out of my curiosity for it, and don't really mind playtesting, but idk how many others would do that

Also hi Rattuse

[olive comet]

i've been spotted

hi and

[strange mural]

Do you want to playtest?

[lusty gate]

I'd recommend it! Is a fun mod

Maybe busy

Which is honestly fine, we can't really know what happens on the other side of our screens

She has expressed interest in playing the mod before! But that doesn't guarantee anything of course

Made it to another shelter! Getting really good at reversed controls lol

Dang, I defend Fetid Glen's design a lot, but what in the world

(not a Looker thing of course, just a vanilla Watcher thing)

Another thing, this swamp looks really cool when it's about to rain! Especially with the lights from the dead lizards

Cool to see rotten lizards with blue rot!

(guessing this is since the campaigns rot color is set to blue instead of Watcher purple. Pretty neat to see it like this!)

Made it to the echo! I'll warp menu to Heat Ducts, and then hibernate there in preparation for reexploring Glacial Tundra later.

Oh, the satisfaction of being back to normal controls!
I like the double-sided satisfaction where there's alternate mechanics that are pretty fun and unique before the satisfaction of returning to normal

Fetid Glen was rather fun! Definitely the hardest to get used to so far (overall difficulty might still be beaten by Barnacle Caves), but the learning curve around it was fun.

[small lichen]

oh i forgot to add a custom rot color in that zip

[deft thorn]

scary

[small lichen]

each area has its own rot color just for fun :3 (not really a spoiler but this is Signal Spires)

[olive comet]

college started for me this week yeah

[olive comet]

BUT i'd still love to when i have free time

[olive comet]

windy has been spotted

[deft thorn]

[olive comet]

[lusty gate]

Lediting event!! Gonna take a break from looker to try to learn how to use Rained and make cool rooms!

_ _
100K Region jam lediting
_ _

Since I assume documenting the process of making a mod might also be ok here

(hopefully)

[vapid steppe]

Looking forwards to what you make!

and the journey of course.

[lusty gate]

I think I'll start by... maybe just trying random things in Rained to see how things work, and get used to using it.

um... I should probably find a guide to how to do different things

[vapid steppe]

Do you know how to setup a mod?

[lusty gate]

No, this is all new to me

[vapid steppe]

https://rainworldmodding.miraheze.org/wiki/Mod_Directories

[lusty gate]

Yay, thanks!

That said, I picked a bad time to start (right before supper). But I'll have a better look in a little while!

[vapid steppe]

You'll probably want to setup your map as an arena for now, for more convenient testing.

[lusty gate]

Yep, very good idea

[vapid steppe]

Ahh, unfortunate, but eating is important.

See you later.

[lusty gate]

I'm back! Time to read stuff

[lusty gate]

Alright, I think my current goal is to just make a simple one-screen room as practice. No focus on gameplay, or specific aesthetics, or making it particularly good - just making something functional in order to get used to everything, before eventually making actual full rooms!

I may make several gradually more complex test rooms while I learn how to do things.

[vapid steppe]

Great. Will it be peanut themed?

[lusty gate]

Sadly no, but it will be an absolute peanut of a room

[vapid steppe]

:(

[lusty gate]

I dunno if making it SU themed (kinda) is a good idea if I'm planning on doing DS rooms first, though...

Actually, maybe I should make it peaut themed!! ...somehow

[vapid steppe]

That sounds fun! Also, what's that typo.

[lusty gate]

what typo- oh

peaut

how peautiful

My current test room so far! Just me messing around with things to make something that might work.

Though I keep thinking I have layers 1 2 and 3 backwards...

Well, if I do, shouldn't be too hard to fix!

But I think it's all correct, at least!

alternate view

Slightly more finished terrain! This should work well enough for the geometry for now, just something simple to experiment with.

[deft thorn]

your level wont lauch due to illegal place on this pipe, use how you did with the other pipes but with that one

also i believe you did things properly in layering, i dont use stack view so

fyi
black is l1, green is l2, red is l3

[lusty gate]

Oop, good to know!

Does a shortcut entrance have to lead into shortcut dots, or would a setup like this work?

(actually, seems like it would, based on how it reacted to the setup, but always nice to make sure!)

stack view as well, for good measure

[deft thorn]

it works!

[lusty gate]

Updated geometry some more! Might be done with the main terrain for now

[deft thorn]

is this like outskirts or industrial?

[lusty gate]

Trying something Outskirts-esque

By which I mean, not something anywhere near the complexity of the tiling I see in some Outskirts rooms I'm referencing, just some general design of the area

Including, of course, the good old classic Outskirts rock

(might move it to a back layer if I feel like it, but it's there for now!)

But yeah, Outskirts is loosely what I'm trying at the moment

[lusty gate]

That's all I had time for today, but that was quite fun! Definitely looking forward to doing more.
Here's my progress so far! I'll hopefully have a bit more time tomorrow to work on it more.

(also tested the BlackGoo and Slime effects a bit for fun! Definitely something I gotta learn more, but I'm learning decently well, I think)

[deft thorn]

looking forward for more updates later

[vapid steppe]

Me too.

[small lichen]

wow you make better rooms than me the biggest lack in looker is lediting since i’m so bad at it

but that looks genuinely good, i like that room!

[olive comet]

shitty outskirts rock 🥹

[lusty gate]

Thanks for all the positivity everyone! Happy to hear you're all interested

I've been Looking forward to doing more lediting all day, to be honest

Sadly I don't have much time today, and even worse, a bunch of errors have happened!
I was trying to install a new version of Rained, and after going through a lot of trial and error of setting things up properly again... I can't load my level file!
I made a new level file to see how the txt document would look, and it appeared to be a completely different format altogether!

I'm not quite sure what to do... but I do think I've documented my progress here pretty well, so it shouldn't take too long to recreate!

[lusty gate]

wow ok I'm fast lol

(me recreating the room from yesterday in a new, functional file)

Not a 1:1 recreation, as you can see - I improved a bit of the geometry in the worn down wall alcove thingy! That's about it, though.

Technically no progress on the room itself, I guess, but a lot of progress on the technical side! I should hopefully have a bit more time tomorrow to actually do some more stuff with this

For now, I might just do a little tiling before stopping for the day

[lusty gate]

I might have gone a bit overboard

eh, I can always fine-tine everything next time

That'll be all from me for today!

(also yes I added another buiding thing to layer 3, I'm absolutely gonna add more layer 3 stuff next time)

[lusty gate]

I had some free time earlier today, and did a little bit more tiling!

Y'know... just a little more

Also before that, I lost the level file and had to recreate the whole thing again!

And I even found out why...

To anyone else using Rained: Save your projects in the actual Level Editor Projects folder (LevelEditorProjects)*** and not the Levels folder!***

Learned that the hard way

Anyway, now it's actually saved properly! And even persisted upon closing Rained, so I finally did something right!!

There's even an old level file here from when I was messing around with Rained months ago!

And, it's...! Um... it's... it...
What in the world was I doing back then 🥹🥹🥹
(there's also another file just like this one where the whole left half of layer 1 was removed)

Anyway, back to my current room!

I only earlier noticed that each room has a default tile! Most of the Outskirts rooms I'm referencing use Chaotic Stone as the default, so I'll do that and see how much better the rendered room looks after that!

Looked pretty good, but I needed some more tiling

Nothing like a perimeter of LargeTrash...

Oh, just remembered! I didn't just do tiling earlier! I also did the light and some of the effects!

Honestly? This looks pretty nice! Proud of my progress on this room

(oh wait, context for non-leditors, yes the colors normally look like that after rendering before added to the game itself, so no actual color effects added yet. Admire the terrain and effects and light!)

I can't think of much more to add to the room as-is! There's plenty I could add, but I don't wanna spend all my time detailing a test room I don't even plan on submitting! But this has been really good practice.

I might have a look at the props...

Oh right, the geometry! Changed up some parts of it since last time.

[lusty gate]

Figured I could practice using props a bit, so I, uh, added some small bricks to the ground. Y'know, from the broken wall alcove thingy.

Nobody knows what happened to that wall

They actually fit pretty well!

(ignore the extreme pixelation 🥹)

(and colors, of course)

Gonna go eat, I'll be back!

[olive comet]

this is so funny to me for some reason 🥹

random rgb bricks with an arrow

they do look nice though!!!

[vapid steppe]

Looks ok so far.. willing to show the current version in game?

[lusty gate]

Yup! Just, as soon as I get to the part where I play it in-game, which I'll try to figure out in a moment!

(Probably done with it - it's just a simple test room after all, it being possibly good is a side effect )

[lusty gate]

It's peam comedy

[vapid steppe]

Setting up the mod structure shouldn't be too hard...

https://rainworldmodding.miraheze.org/wiki/Mod_Directories if you need it.

[lusty gate]

Thanks!

Though, I don't know the specifics of actually setting up a mod, but that should help with the structure and details at least!

(unless the page also contains instructions for that, in which case I might've missed it )

I'll have a thorough Watch..

[deft thorn]

you can also just put the room files into levels folder

[lusty gate]

Ah, figures! Thanks
Of course, knowing how to set up a remix mod could be very nice to know for future reference... but I think I'll just add it to the level folder for now! Shouldn't be that hard to keep organized.

Then again... mmm, learning mod setup...

[vapid steppe]

NO... you'll put in one... then 2... then 10.. and then you'll have no idea which are original and which are your. Make a mod please.

[lusty gate]

Eh, fair enough

I don't know where to start, though!

Do I just... like, make a mod folder, and then write a whole json file manually?

[vapid steppe]

You make a folder called whatever you want in the mod folder.

You can copy the Json from Downpour.

[lusty gate]

Ohh, that makes sense! Thanks

[vapid steppe]

There even is an example one on the wiki.

[lusty gate]

This one, or another one?

Ah, nevermind, looks like that one, based on how the jolly one looks!

Does this look good?

There were some other things I saw I could add, but none of them felt necessary for this in particular

[vapid steppe]

I think the ID is mostly username.modname (to make id overlaps as rare as possible)

[lusty gate]

Ah, gotcha, that makes sense

how about this?

[vapid steppe]

for shipping should be good. For testing, you might want the checksum override to be true.

[lusty gate]

got it

Curious to know what it does, but I can figure that out another time

Anything else I gotta do aside from adding the levels? I assume there's some kind of thing I gotta set up for the levels to be recognized and added to the game

[vapid steppe]

more aggressive updating of the game files when the mod changes (so you don't need to incrementthe mod version after every change)

[lusty gate]

Ah, thanks for the info! Very nice to know

[vapid steppe]

If you put them in the right folder in the mod, I don't think so?

[lusty gate]

This looks correct to me, so it might work!

(I checked for sensitive info before screenshotting, just in case, of course)

[vapid steppe]

Well, time to test then. I think it's right, tho I can't check.

[lusty gate]

Alright, here we go!

Now to see if the mod itself actually works...

It's there!! Hooray!!!

unrendered thumbnail 🥹

YES

Of course, it's not quite done yet!

Devtoolsing time...

[vapid steppe]

You can add a thumbnail layer if you want.

[lusty gate]

I might afterwards!

[vapid steppe]

One thing, the top right looks a bit empty, maybe a extra fence?

[lusty gate]

Maybe!
Though I don't wanna spend too much more time on just a practice room, but quite good suggestion!

Actually, if I ever feel like using this room for anything in the future, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

Added a few objects!

[olive comet]

make them brown

brown fruit

[lusty gate]

hmmmmm...

evil devs hiding the brown fruit option from us!!!!

Added a few more devtools stuff, at least

Trying to figure out where the creature den options are. This room could really do with a random lizard fumbling around!

Weather jumpscare

[small lichen]

oh creatures are set up externally and not through the dev tools menu

the process for it is different depending on if it’s in arena or within a region

[lusty gate]

Ahh, right! I remember part of the region process actually

Though I wonder which one would be better to set up for a region jam...

(so I know what's best to use for the next rooms)

[small lichen]

i personally recommend setting up test rooms in a custom region, that way you can test connections and creatures way more easily :3

if you need help on how to set it up i can help with that btw

[lusty gate]

Alright! That'll probably be the last thing I'll do today (or the first thing I do tomorrow depending on how long it takes)

[lusty gate]

Ah, help might be appreciated, yeah! thanks

(I almost wrote thanos instead of thanks )

[small lichen]

ok so first of all you’ll need to go to your mod’s folder and create a subfolder called modify

within it a text file called regions.txt
and inside that you write [ADD] followed by whatever acronym you want the region to have, for example [ADD]MEOW

[lusty gate]

Like this?

(MEOW was a perfect choice )

[small lichen]

yeah, now the region with the acronym MEOW exists

[lusty gate]

Ah, I should probably rename my room to have that acronym in front, right?

[small lichen]

next you have to go back to the mod folder and create another folder, this one called world

inside that create 2 folders, one called MEOW and the other MEOW_rooms

[small lichen]

yeah exactly, make sure it’s separated by an underscore

[lusty gate]

[small lichen]

when you rename all the room files move them over to MEOW_rooms

[lusty gate]

Rooms moved over!

[small lichen]

ok so it’s mostly done, all that’s left is the MEOW folder

[lusty gate]

General region info is there, right?

[small lichen]

yeah

there are a couple of files you can add that do different things in the region, but the main one is the world_MEOW file (i think that’s the name format)

[lusty gate]

Yep, checking with other mod folders, seems correct

[small lichen]

how many entrance pipes does the room you made have?

[lusty gate]

I think... 3?

Yep, 3

[olive comet]

[small lichen]

then write

MEOW_TESTROOM : DISCONNECTED, DISCONNECTED, DISCONNECTED
END ROOMS

CREATURES
END CREATURES```

[lusty gate]

[small lichen]

within creatures you can add the creature spawns. since you have 3 room pipes that occupies slots 0 1 and 2, so the first one starts at 3

try putting a green lizard in there by doing MEOW_TESTROOM : 3-Green

or well, any creature you want! i can tell you the id you need to write

[lusty gate]

Thanks, but green is exactly what I had in mind!

[small lichen]

well, that should have the region set up then!

you’d have to enter the region through warp menu since there’s no gate but other than that you can visit the room in game

[lusty gate]

Oddly, I can't find it here!

[small lichen]

oh wait

yeah

dysplayname.txt

[lusty gate]

(and yeah, I did set a display name for it too)

[small lichen]

you need to give it a name

oh

[lusty gate]

Oh, wait, why's it not working??

[small lichen]

did you restart the game?

[lusty gate]

I'll try

[small lichen]

it needs to restart to load it i think

[lusty gate]

Still not seeing it..

Maybe something here doesn't work?

I'd guess it's the :3 if anything

Sorry little :3, you must go...

[small lichen]

the : if anything

i know it doesn’t work on subregions

but i doubt that’s the problem…

[lusty gate]

Perhaps something with Warp Menu itself?

If this doesn't work, I'll try reapplying it, or looking around its folder

Yep, still not showing up...

[small lichen]

i wish i could help more but i don’t have my laptop to check around the files to see the correct way

try comparing it to how msc does it

[lusty gate]

Maybe because 4-letter acronyms are a watcher thing, and thus don't work with vanilla? Then again, that feels like something they'd implement without needing the dlc active too...

[small lichen]

wait… i think i might know why

in the world file try removing the space before the :

so like MEOW_TESTROOM:

it might be that or it might not be, not sure

[lusty gate]

like this?

[small lichen]

never mind

it isn’t that

ok i have no idea why it’s not working

[lusty gate]

Gonna reapply warp mod, maybe that'll fix it?

[small lichen]

do try changing the acronym maybe it’s that?

[lusty gate]

Changed everything to TS now!

Also I saw other folders use acronyms on lowercase for folder/filenames, so I did that too (where applicable)

If this doesn't work... I'll figure it out tomorrow

STILL??????

Nyehhh, ah well. I'm satisfied with what I've done today regardless!

Actually, wait, do I need something like RegionKit and/or CRS active for this to work?

I probably do

dagnabbit

[small lichen]

wait wait maybe try checking how msc does it

[small lichen]

nope! not at all. this is the very basic stuff of regions it’s how the base game does it

[lusty gate]

Ahh, good to know, thanks!

[lusty gate]

What specifically should I look for? Just general files?

[small lichen]

all i can think about is maybe the regions.txt file being wrong

no other file seems wrong

[lusty gate]

...huh.
I found a world folder inside the modify folder!!

[small lichen]

OH DANG IT

[lusty gate]

In addition to the world folder outside of it!

[small lichen]

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT SUBFOLDER

[small lichen]

put the regions.txt inside a world subfolder

within modify

how did i forget about the most important step

[lusty gate]

well, at least we finally figured it out!

That feeling of finally figuring out that one issue... it's a feeling I know all too well

Oh, the MSC world folder also has folders for each vanilla region, but I'm guessing since I'm not making changes to any of those with my mod, regions.txt is all I need in mine?

[small lichen]

yeah the modify folder exists to modify existing stuff in the base game and other mods enabled

the only change you need is to regions.txt

or well, the modify files change existing files, but msc adds new files for vanilla regions

[lusty gate]

WHAT

STILL NOTHING???

Hold on, maybe I messed up

[small lichen]

did you rename the folder and rooms too?

or uh

ok i don’t know anymore

[lusty gate]

I have no idea, everything looks fine

Anyway, it's 21 (9PM) on a weekday (and I gotta get up early-ish), so I should probably stop for now

Thanks for all the help!!

[small lichen]

hope you find a solution tomorrow

[lusty gate]

hopefully...

[vapid steppe]

Ohh, that's interesting. I was recommended testing rooms in arena cuase it makes loading in quickly easier.

[small lichen]

well, depends on the method. if you use dev tools set up files you can spawn directly in the room

but yeah making a region is mostly better if you want to see how creatures interact with the room

otherwise it doesn’t matter much

[lusty gate]

...I might have figured out a possible cause for the issue

This was just TESTROOM before!
And I checked with MSC, and yep, this should be correct

I'll have a look tomorrow to see if it works!

I also unsubscribed and resubscribed to Warp Menu, so that might also do something? But if worst comes to worst, at least the good old devtools setup method should work

[vapid steppe]

that sounds like it.

[lusty gate]

...oh

I might've figured it out

nevermind

[vapid steppe]

Maybe try uppercase?

Oh, make sure the case of the files matches the one in the world file.

@lusty gate ^

[lusty gate]

Oddly, most other mod files use lowercase anyway. Maybe something's up with my mod folder?

Anyway, definitely trying that, thanks!

[vapid steppe]

I am specifically talking about the room files.

But no idea what other file might be a problem.

[lusty gate]

Dagnabbit, it didn't work!

[vapid steppe]

Also, not sure, should it be XX_Rooms or XX-Rooms?

[lusty gate]

XX_Rooms according to the wiki!

[vapid steppe]

ok.

[lusty gate]

Oh wait no, the folder should be XX-Rooms

The rooms use XX_Roomname

[vapid steppe]

I hope that's it...

[lusty gate]

I wish, but that's what I've had it as, and that didn't work either

This is... really something

[vapid steppe]

Did you reaply/restart the mod?

[lusty gate]

Probably should... maybe that's it!!

noooo

I dunno what else to try...

[vapid steppe]

I honestly don't know... I guess just compare with msc.

Try to match any syntax that does.

[lusty gate]

Everything checks out... hmm

I matched file case with msc files again, at least. Maybe that'll do something?

Nope, still nothing.

MSC rooms have more files like properties and map files, but all of those should be optional, right?

Then again, I don't have that many other ideas...

[strange mural]

Have you tried comparing it to how other modded regions format their files?

[lusty gate]

Yep, I have

At least msc, and a bit of watcher

[strange mural]

Try some modded region then. And check room connections, they can cause lots of errors

using Custom Region Support to minimise chances of an error also works

[lusty gate]

Good ideas, thanks

I decided on Curious Ascent, and, uh

It's not there??

But still here???

invisible mod??

[strange mural]

StreaminAssets/mods/ is for all non-workshop mods

[lusty gate]

ahh, right

Ok, got the RainDB zip, gonna have a look

[strange mural]

workshop mods are found in (your steam folder directory)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\(mod id on workshop) btw

to get mod id, click copy link on workshop and take the large number near the end of url

[lusty gate]

Not seeing anything odd, though...

[strange mural]

huh weird. Try using CRS then, and check room connections carefully

also make sure to make a modify that adds the region into region list

[lusty gate]

This should work, right?

Matches up with AK (Curious Ascent)

[strange mural]

yeah I think so

[lusty gate]

I'll check the room connections again, then. Could be an error there

At least I can still put it into levels and load it into arena! So the issue isn't anything with the room itself probably, just surrounding regional setup maybe?

Connections seem correct... (clip because flashing numbers hate screenshots)

I shouldn't have to set anything up for 4 and 5, right?

[small lichen]

nope, here 4 indicates a side entrance for deer/miros/loaches and 5 a sky entrance for vultures/moths

nothing you have to set up

[lusty gate]

That makes sense!

...I'm out of ideas, though

[small lichen]

OH FUCK

i meant .txt as in the file type, not to include it in the name of the file itself

[lusty gate]

WHAT

[small lichen]

so just regions

[lusty gate]

It does that????

[small lichen]

oh my god i’m so stupid i should have specified

[lusty gate]

I just called it regions.txt.txt didn't i

[small lichen]

checked the image and yup

well at least we know the cause now

[lusty gate]

I'm so glad we know...

PLEASE Rain World, let this be it!!!!! Please let me access my region, Rain World!!

Gotta reapply mods... but maybe now!!

YES!!!!! YES!!!!!! YES!!!!!! HOLY frick YES!!!

[small lichen]

[lusty gate]

FreakING FINALLY

[small lichen]

YAY

[lusty gate]

Thanks for all the help, everyone!!

Wait

no rooms

uh oh

[small lichen]

[small lichen]

show the world file again please

and where it’s placed too

[lusty gate]

Here!

[small lichen]

ok wait that one seems correct

huh…

[lusty gate]

better 2nd image, just in case

[small lichen]

if only i had my files for Fallen Satellite to see how i did it…

i do not know what’s wrong and i do not know how to fix it

sorry

[lusty gate]

Well, at least we got one step closer!

[small lichen]

wait just in case show ts-rooms too

[lusty gate]

here

Should I also send ts_testroom.txt itself, just in case it's something in there?

[small lichen]

probably yeah

though the problem would be in the first lines

the rest is just room data

[lusty gate]

Ah, ok, first few lines!

[small lichen]

ok tbh i don’t know what is supposed to be there

[lusty gate]

Also for some reason, line 11 is just screaming

[small lichen]

yeah that means it’s unbaked

the screams die out as you bake the room :3

[lusty gate]

Ah, I see.
Does that have any effect on whether or not the room shows up, though?

[small lichen]

nope, just creature pathfinding

none of the new looker rooms are baked

[vapid steppe]

space after before the colon maybe?

[small lichen]

ok so the problem is either in the world file or in that room, not sure which one

[vapid steppe]

maybe TS-Rooms?

[lusty gate]

You mean the camera colon? I'll try

[vapid steppe]

Huh, what camera colon?

[lusty gate]

this

[lusty gate]

I checked, and this colon appears consistent with msc

[lusty gate]

Sadly, didn't work

[small lichen]

ok checking the modding wiki it seems correct… this is the example it provides

//rooms go here
END ROOMS

CREATURES
//creatures go here
END CREATURES```

[lusty gate]

Oh no

I might've found it

[small lichen]

TR_W19 : TR_L05, DISCONNECTED, DISCONNECTED, DISCONNECTED, TR_W18
other example

[small lichen]

oh what is it

[lusty gate]

Extra space after ROOMS

If that's it, I swear...

...actually, I'll be happy I'll have solved it

[small lichen]

no it isn’t that

like i don’t think it is

[lusty gate]

WHAT

WHAT THE FJS0FD+EF\F

[small lichen]

WHAT THE HELL

???

[vapid steppe]

Huh?

[lusty gate]

Removing that one space fixed everything lol

[small lichen]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[lusty gate]

Uhhhh, yeah, I've learned my lesson

always gonna check for stray spaces now

[small lichen]

oh wait you meant there was an EXTRA space

yeah that IS an issue

[vapid steppe]

literally invisible.

[small lichen]

anyways how does it look in game :3

you should totally visit it as the looker or something

[small lichen]

yay green lizard!

[lusty gate]

Oop, had to go to the sound tab to hear the cool and awesome sound I added

[small lichen]

may i suggest adding another line in the creatures section? :3
OFFSCREEN : 0-KingVulture-50, 0-MirosBird-20

[lusty gate]

Here! Isn't it so fitting???
(VOLUME WARNING lol)

[small lichen]

how the hell did you even do that

[lusty gate]

[small lichen]

since when is that a sound

[lusty gate]

AR_Device my beloved silly sound effect

I have no idea where it plays in the Watcher, but it's apparently from there

Somewhere in AR

Wait, I can mass-search while adding the creatures

[small lichen]

is it better than looker’s explosion sound?

[small lichen]

probably somewhere in salination

[lusty gate]

Wait, Looker has a custom explosion sound??

[small lichen]

it still doesn’t work does it

[lusty gate]

I thought it was just meant to be the usual boom

Lemme guess, Deltarune explosion?

[small lichen]

here, spoiler for Verdant Waterways gimmick tho

[small lichen]

just because there is one reference doesn’t mean everything is >:c

but yes, it’s the deltarune explosion

[lusty gate]

hehehehe... i knew it

[small lichen]

anyways, new looker patch coming soon

[lusty gate]

[small lichen]

this one will bring a new dependency

[lusty gate]

May not get to play it much (the Silksong calls to us all), but I Look forward to Seeing it!

[lusty gate]

oh-ho?? Intriguing...

[small lichen]

(it’s just CRS )

[lusty gate]

ah, makes sense lol

[small lichen]

anyways next batch will bring gimmicks for some more regions, an optional hard mode for creature spawns, randomness for spawns, modded creature spawns (if their mods are enabled) and more

it’s mostly a creature spawns update lmao

[lusty gate]

Still pretty cool! I Look forward to it

[lusty gate]

Huh, 4 different rooms!

[vapid steppe]

Fun fact, it's like 0.0% complete, but I also wanted to make a mod called The Looker.

[small lichen]

quick note, new creature spawns won’t apply since they save on first region load. you’ll have to clear them with devtools to see them

[small lichen]

well what is it about 👀

[lusty gate]

Yeah, sounds interesting!

[small lichen]

also that name is taken, i can offer The Peeper, The Observer, The Glancer, The Contemplator, The Starer…

[vapid steppe]

Well, it's my own reimagination of The Watcher within the MSC cannon.

[vapid steppe]

Yeah, I know. I actually came up with a few of those.

[small lichen]

ok well my The Looker is a reimagination of The Watcher within the Inv canon

so it’s basically the same

[vapid steppe]

Ehh. Inv is msc if everything went wrong.

[small lichen]

inv is canon you cannot convince me otherwise

[small lichen]

actually yes, that’s precisely what the “inv is canon” theory is based on

[vapid steppe]

It's not the same cannon as the rest of msc, but... we already have Gourmand.

[small lichen]

inv belongs in a timeline where hunter didn’t manage to complete their mission (hence why we see hll) and where pebble’s systems clogged up from trying to spew out the rot

pebbles hired slugpups to recreate iterator conditions in Sky Islands to attract the rot to there

[lusty gate]

Hypothesis: This also eventually lead to the scavengers having a massive nacho party in Garbage Wastes, except chaos ensued, and the effects of the fateful nacho party rippled throughout the facility

In addition to the rot shenanigans

[lusty gate]

What story ideas did you have for this, though, if any?

(I'll get some food in the meantime)

[small lichen]

no, that’s due to all the toxic sewage that was spilled there. this also contaminated nearby regions, resulting in them having various phenomena (lizards mutating into a new species in HI, snailes appearing from thin air and causing massive explosions when their shockwave reacts with the air in DS, blinding amoeba slowly affecting you in SB…)

[lusty gate]

Ahh, true! Can't believe I forgot all the Inv lore like that, smh mh my head

[small lichen]

on the other hand looker has no lore behind the gimmicks :3

[lusty gate]

But does it have... enviornmental storytelling??

[small lichen]

… wait a second i can write lore pearls that explain it

the WTDA one is just going to be “oh this isn’t a pearl at all, it’s a perfectly round snowball. i’m not sure whether i should be more surprised of where you got it from or of how you got it here intact.”

[lusty gate]

Perfect

That'd be cool actually!

[lusty gate]

Oh also here's this

I think I'll have a pink lizard there, and consdier myself done with the practice phase!

Question - would anyone want a zip of the mod to play through that silly little room?

[small lichen]

i’m stealing this and adding it to looker

[lusty gate]

hehehehehehehehe

[small lichen]

ok but seriously something that the looker is urgently lacking is good lediting

i am so unbelievably bad at it, you’ve seen Daemon already

[lusty gate]

I can't promise I'd always have the time, but if this is an invitation to ledit... maybe I could sometimes?

If that's what you mean

As long as there's no real rush (as I don't have that much free time in general most weekdays), I'd be fine with it

[small lichen]

that would be awesome 🥹

the one room i am somewhat proud of (still needs heavy readjusting) is sprinkles’ den

have fun finding it

[lusty gate]

[small lichen]

yeah that one

inside it there is a cyan with sprinkles’ id and mean set to -1 to always be friendly

[lusty gate]

Perfection

[small lichen]

it’s in a region you haven’t been to yet

[lusty gate]

I Look forward to finding it!

But anyway, for anyone who wants to explore and jump around my silly room... here it is!

(though do be warned, the AR_Device sound is pretty loud in the room lol)

[small lichen]

the stealer…

[lusty gate]

Sorry, force of habit

Evil Pizza...

But also!! More monkcolonthree!! The power of monkcolonthree can spread farther!!!

[vapid steppe]

The world (for some reason) became unstable, making a bunch of random rifts! You are, a very curious slugcat, that wants to find out the truth, but there is only one source... and that source says you'll never find all your answers.

I currently have 4 rooms, one of which I am happy with, for a new subregion and big plans...

[lusty gate]

Ooh, that sounds really interesting!

[vapid steppe]

The idea is neat, but... it's way to big for me and my friends to make, and I really don't want to get other people into the project, as the chances of it ever finishing are slim.

[lusty gate]

Yeah, understandable. Still, pretty cool idea! Was nice to at least hear about it!

Having overly ambitious ideas is quite relatable

[vapid steppe]

if I get it to about 50% complete, I might consider getting outside help.

[lusty gate]

That sounds like a pretty good goal, honestly!
Good luck with the project! It would be rather cool to see

(And, on a tangential yet somewhat related note, good luck with your arena shooter too!)

[vapid steppe]

I am giving the shooter a higher chance of finishing.

[lusty gate]

Hopefully all goes well with it!

[olive comet]

the sudden lag spike... the red dots in the air... the masses... this is incredible

i should try lediting at some point for sure

[vapid steppe]

It's actually kinda fun!

[lusty gate]

I'd love to see you try and ledit!
It's surprisingly simple to learn, all things consdiered

[vapid steppe]

Unless you want to make something good.

That takes hours of practice.

[lusty gate]

Easy to learn, hard to master...
I do fully reccomend at least trying it!

[lusty gate]

Yep, I think I'm done for today.
For anyone wondering what my next plan is... behold what I'm cooking up:

My first real room, and my first submission! Er, when it's done, of course.

Might be a bit ambitious to do a 3-screener immediately (yep, this is just a wip of one third of the room), but I felt like it! I have ideas...

Fixed some geometry real quick

(also look at how many rooms I'm referencing lol)

Anyway, that's all for today! For real!!

[vapid steppe]

Looks really good!

[lusty gate]

Thanks!
Haven't really been documenting much of my room-making process this time, just been having fun designing, tiling, detailing...
But here's another update!

I'll focus on extra background details later (such as putting numerous pipes everywhere and spreading some trash tiles around), for now I'm mostly focusing on the layer 1 terrain (and layer 2 stuff where complimentary)

Although, I do want a suggestion for something...

Does anyone have a suggestion for what to tile that one thin platform? I want it to be a sort of grate-esque thing for the stream of water to pass through (while still being a solid platform of course). Any ideas for what tiles to use?

(I'll probably also add more pipes below it in the walls later)

Maybe a vertical one of those tank holder walls would work? Turbulent Pump uses those sometimes, and it works pretty well there, so maybe?

Doesn't look that bad... but if anyone has any other suggestion, please tell me! I'm sure the perfect tile is still out there somewhere...

[vapid steppe]

Honestly don't know... maybe check what gates actually use?

[lusty gate]

Ah, right!

Looks like they use SkinnyBeams... that could work, maybe.

Looks kinda odd... maybe there's something I'm missing

...wait, I might've found something

Tried using DiscPipes! Not bad, honestly

Gotta chech in-game, though

(First felt like changing the camera angle a bit to center it more on the unique pipe)

Not too bad!

That'll do for now

Here it is with the correct palette, too!

Anyway, this has also made me realize I need to make some adjustments to geometry, so I'll do that next

Some adjustments have been made! The bottom-left is now slightly less annoying, the exit on the top left requires a bit less effort, and the pipe has fewer waterfall tiles to make things a bit less turbulent down below.

I've also raised the water level, but the bottom left chambers aren't gonna be submerged like the pipe on the right, due to some pretty cool devtools objects called air pockets which I shall add later!

[vapid steppe]

I am not sure, but those sound as Watcher content...

[lusty gate]

Also I've realized I might have to make this a 4-screener to fulfill my vision lol

[lusty gate]

SharedDLC, I checked

[vapid steppe]

ah cool!

[lusty gate]

But yeah, probably added with Watcher

[lusty gate]

By which I mean I checked the wiki, but that seems like a good source, and it feels like something that'd be more reasonable to put in sharedDLC rather than to keep Watcher-exclusive

[lusty gate]

Room update!

The idea for the third section is to have a sort of climb across the upper section where you have to avoid monster kelp (I'll ask Alduris really really nicely with a please and a cherry on top if those can stay there in the region itself), where you can also drop down into the water pipe swim below!

Moved geometry a bit to better align with the center of the 3rd screen (as indicated by the temporary tiles I put on the bottom)

[olive comet]

make sure to put those platforms you can stand on but also fall through at just the right height that slugcat can't jump on top of them and has to go some other platformy way to get on them 🥹

looking at you DS_C02

[lusty gate]

You got it /j

[vapid steppe]

evil

[lusty gate]

Funny how this room has ended up as a mish-mash of multiple rooms... B01 and B02, B07 (with more kelp, probably), and a bit of a unique Drainage Tunnel™ at the bottom

Hopefully it won't be too overly convoluted...

or... hopefully it WILL /silly

The evil power of Drainage...

[strange mural]

btw as someone who havent played much mods, how many dependencies is an "average" for a modded campaign? What could be considered too much dependencies?

[olive comet]

i usually see about 3-5

that being said most mods share the same dependencies so i usually already have them

[vapid steppe]

CRS and region kit I assume are common.

[olive comet]

very

[vapid steppe]

Oh, and slugbase and iterator kit too.

[lusty gate]

I should've gone to sleep a while ago lol

Now I'll sleep, at least

[vapid steppe]

Sometimes it's too fun.

T h e l e d i t o r s g r o w.

[lusty gate]

Riddle: Have I been working hard, or hardly working?
(The answer is both, that's how it is during weekdays )

But now... weekend! Much more time for all the fun lediting now!!

Anyway... I've been wondering what to do with this long stretch of water down there. I mean, I can't make it an enclosed tunnel, you should be able to go from above! But leaving it empty would be boring... even if this room is dense enough as is

And then... a perfect idea hit me.

An idea that has been staring me in the face for a while.

What if... and hear me out, here, what if...

evil leech pit

Of course I edited the geometry on the sides so that leeches would be less likely to enter the fully underwater pipes - that kind of leech gameplay is no fun (to me)!

But like this, this could add another risk to falling down, and also add some more engaging gameplay for a long stretch of water that I otherwise don't know what to do with gameplay-wise.

And it's Drainage System!! They should be right at home here

Now all that's left for me to design layer 1 stuff for before the extra polishing is screen 4, which I might just style after the left side of the rooms I based screen 1 off of. Both standard entrances would then ease you into the full chaos of the room gradually, rather than dumping you into kelp platforming chaos instantly

(...I might make part of a future region something like that. Ceiling climbing with kelp! I mean, Verdant Waterways alredy kinda does that, but still!)

[lusty gate]

I'm really proud of all I've done so far! No idea if the room will be fun at all, but it certainly Looks cool!

...Also, just remembered the thread name is a bit outdated at the moment

Modding Misadventures (currently lediting for the 100K jam)

Don't worry - Looker will return in a while!

[lusty gate]

I hope it won't be too obvious which parts are literally copypasted from vanilla rooms

I've at least tried to make my own unique spin on everything, and I like to think I've done a good job with that so far, at least

[lusty gate]

Cool lightmap moment

of course as soon as I send it I notice the multiple imperfections lol
Updated one:

[vapid steppe]

What... time is it?

[lusty gate]

Reasonable time for a weekend evenin... nevermind, morning

(I'll go sleep soon)

Last update for today!

I also set up the region for testing it and setting up spawns!
...The kelps are, uh, a bit longer than I designed the area for
But they work well, and that's what matters!

[olive comet]

looks really good so far!!!

[feral dawn]

ooo a fellow region jam ledit threade

im trying to avoid soiler though so if it changes ill probs leave

[lusty gate]

Hope you enjoy your stay!!
Oh, what spoilers are you avoiding, by the way? In case it's something I can more easily avoid or warn you about

...Unless you mean modded campaigns in general, in which case understandable and same.

[feral dawn]

Yeah modded in general

I pretty much only beat sunlit trail and the impulse for now but I can follow the outsider for a bit

[lusty gate]

Should I try to let you know when regular modded playthroughs continue here? It'll probably be more Looker, in case you're wondering

[lusty gate]

I dunno if this is frowned upon in lediting, but I decided to adjust the height of the room to a non-standard amount. I've tested the room a bit, and I think the kelp at the top sticks out a bit too much for my liking, so I decided I wanted a bigger border to spawn it a bit higher up.
Again though, I don't know if this should be avoided, but since the level itself is still fine, and this is mostly outside the camera view anyway, I assume this should be fine? Maybe?

It does seem to work properly, which I think is most important here. Might adjust it a bit more, but it can no longer reach fully to the bottom "layer" of platforms, which I think is better.

(just realized I didn't use the newest render of the room with the extra wiggle room lol)

[vapid steppe]

Shouldn't be a problem.

[small lichen]

wow i cannot believe you would do that wow. this is such an insult to all the hard works that modders do

yeah that’s totally fine lmao i did it for one of the Daemon rooms to add an offscreen waterfall

[lusty gate]

Good to know, thanks everyone!

The waterfall example makes it feel even more like a cool advanced lediting trick

uhh I mean oh noes... how could I have done this??? only one week, and I must already return my Cool and Peak Leditor lisence... oh noes... /j

pfff of course

[vapid steppe]

One thing I kinda want to do in a room, is make a room where the geometry and render don't match, but it's still fully playable (in the context of the room)

[lusty gate]

That actually sounds really cool! ...and probably also very hard to play, but that's funny

That actually made me think... imagine an entire region where the geometry is, like, offset a set amount to the side, or uses renders from other rooms or something

[vapid steppe]

It could work in a more cinematic region.

Imagine walking, and you just fall through the floor.

[lusty gate]

That actually sounds like it could work well! I'd love to see that.

Technically it should be possible to force place geometry in Rained without meeting the geometry requirements, but I don't know how far that would go for something like that...

[strange mural]

Broken palette + wrong room png + positive water depth would go crazy

[vapid steppe]

And with overlapping cameras, there could be a thing where you first walk right through a empty room the next screen is empty, but when you return, you can see previously invisible geometry.

[strange mural]

with new ripple screen system, I think it might be possible to make a room which changes visible geometry each time you check the screen

[vapid steppe]

You can just render, change, render, and then match the pngs and txts from different renders how you want.

[vapid steppe]

I don't know much about that... how does that work?

[lusty gate]

Oh, right!!
Dang, I wanna see something make use of that now...

(or maybe use that trick myself in the future )

[strange mural]

If the screen has rippledata, it functionally loads two screens at once, with one being shown over other depending on layers

like how shaders with conditions work

btw unsure if yall heard of Community Challenges mod, but it could be fun to try something similar when Watcher fully releases

player-created arena challenges

[lusty gate]

Yeah, that sounds fun!

[lusty gate]

Also, this feels like something I'd expect Watcher to do in future content. Maybe not this technique exactly, but the same concept of entering a room, going to the end, then seeing things have changed in the same room would be awesome!

The Throne... kinda does that (during the first visit (and actually all visits, but most notable in the first one)), but not in the same room

[vapid steppe]

Sounds fun...

[strange mural]

Honestly I'd start preparing it now, but already working on Looker and update is close to release anyways

[lusty gate]

Understandable

[vapid steppe]

Looker?

[strange mural]

A mod me and Patoma are working on. Think of a custom slugcat using Watcher map with Inv-like shenanigans

I can send a build of the current mod update here if you want

[vapid steppe]

Oh, yeah, I was confused because I heard it was Potamas mod.

[lusty gate]

Also if you wanna see someone documenting their playthrough, Look at the top of this thread!

[vapid steppe]

This explains.

[strange mural]

Patoma is the one making spawns, rooms, file editing stuff etf. I'm the one making code part of the mod

[vapid steppe]

I probably won't play it myself anytime soon... sounds fun, but I don't think I have the time.

[strange mural]

Yeah the development and stuff will likely be paused soon too, in 5 days when Silksong comes out

[lusty gate]

Same here, as much as I wish I had the time to continue...

Silksong is the biggest break reason for a lot of us, I'd imagine

that and the possible Watcher update ready to ambush us at any moment

[strange mural]

yeah lol

I honestly hope Watcher update gets delayed due to Silksong, to give it some light and more time to develop

[lusty gate]

It's, like, the perfect oportunity to do so, I fully agree!

[vapid steppe]

Honestly, I am very mixed about watcher... I really hope they make it better.

[lusty gate]

And as someone very positive about Watcher... I most of all want it to be the best version of itself it can be, so I agree!

[lusty gate]

I think I've made their positions the best I can, now!

Might be time to finally move on to... the detailing!!

[feral dawn]

That's a cool ledit

[lusty gate]

Thanks!

[olive comet]

scary monster kelp what a nice room

[lusty gate]

ohhohohohoho...

I've cooked up something wonderful

[feral dawn]

i so look forward to playing the region jam mod drainage system and farm arrays mod

[lusty gate]

Same

....woag

I'm impressed by myself

Though, I do see some things to adjust, but I think I'll do all the final adjustments and devtooling tomorrow (technically today )

If anyone has any suggestions though, feel free to tell me, and I might consdier it!

[feral dawn]

yup, theres a drainage rooom if ive ever seen one

good job man

videocult should add this room into the game

[lusty gate]

Holy wow, thanks so much!!

Honestly, the same could be said about your Filtration room!

[feral dawn]

nah its not that good, i think i can do better

[lusty gate]

And I really look forward to hw your current room will finally turn out - it already looks quite nice!

mmm yes this is definitely the correct thread for your rooms

[feral dawn]

yes

[lusty gate]

As long as you know what you can do better, that's what matters!
The room as-is has plenty of potential, I can very much see that

Might just be because you're earlier in the process. The foundation and ideas are already really cool, and after more tiling and effects... ohhohoho. I look forward to it!

Anyway, happy lediting! I should go sleep probably

[feral dawn]

gn

[olive comet]

would you like the finished result 📌?

i really need a rain world related pinning emoji

[lusty gate]

Ah, sure!

[feral dawn]

is that the finished result at the bottom

[lusty gate]

No, not yet! Finished result should be hopefully soon

[feral dawn]

ping me so that i can steal the pin from rattuse

[lusty gate]

What if I ping both of you...

Who will pin first

[feral dawn]

depends whos on i suppose

[lusty gate]

Actually yeah, true

[vapid steppe]

Ping me too for that!

[feral dawn]

ping every felper

[strange mural]

ping every helper

[feral dawn]

ping everyone in the server

[lusty gate]

what if I @ everyone to pi - yep

[feral dawn]

silksong just a week away

[strange mural]

3 days until Silksong tomorrow

[lusty gate]

5 days until Silksong yesterday

[small lichen]

4 tomorrows until silksong

[feral dawn]

im just worried that everyone in this servers gonna leave to p lay silksong

[strange mural]

I doubt everyone will leave, but yeah the activity is going to drop severely

[lusty gate]

I'll probably at least try to ledit until the end of the region jam event

But then, I shall enter the Silksong caves...

[feral dawn]

yeah this is wha ti mean

[strange mural]

solution: dont worry about activity and play Silksong too

its pretty cheap and even my friends' potato PC can run it

[lusty gate]

Woag, Silksong came out before Silksong??????????

(nah I get what you mean lol)

[strange mural]

the details are already on steam page and some other sources I think

[lusty gate]

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about that

[feral dawn]

rain world came out before silksong

[vapid steppe]

Silksong won't change how active I am.

[lusty gate]

...I think the room might be just about finished.

I've added some food in good spots, a bunch of environmental water sounds, and am currently rerendering some improved effects.

Soon...!

[lusty gate]

Coming together pretty well! Just gotta ask modding dev about some things now

[lusty gate]

Ok things took a bit to finish, and I had other things to do, but now... it should be finished!

Behold, my first full-effort room:

@vapid steppe @feral dawn @olive comet could one of you please pin

[rapid agate]

[lusty gate]

An unexpected winner!!!!!

[vapid steppe]

Lol.

You made it a silent message... no ping :(

[rapid agate]

This is lovely btw

[lusty gate]

Yeah I didn't wanna bother all of you too much with the silly thingy

[vapid steppe]

I... literally signed up to be annoyed with it...

[lusty gate]

Not my brightest moment lol

Next time for sure!!!!!!!!!!

[rapid agate]

I was gonna say "ping me too just because!" Then saw the finished result lol

[lusty gate]

Incredible timing

[rapid agate]

Very

[lusty gate]

Just to make sure, this should be correct for the submission, right?

...I sent a zip with another folder inside lol

How about this?

Seems like it should be fine, I don't think I'm missing anything...

Alright, I'm gonna do it!! I'm gonna send it! Here we go!

It has been done!!

I really hope I did everything right...

My only real issue now is that I wish I added more effects to that one empty part of screen two, and a bit of trash in the leech pit. But those are just minor nitpicks I think! And either way, I've has a lot of fun, and feel like I've learned plenty for future lediting.
Thanks for the support on this room, everyone!

I do have plans for more rooms, but I'll think about those another day, and I'm unsure if I can make them before the end of the event... but I'll try!
And even if I don't... well, that's not the end. I know how to ledit now! I can make all my ideas now! I'm certainly not done lediting anytime soon! (except for the breaks I'll take for Silksong + Watcher update + actually getting through my backlog of games some more )

[olive comet]

what a turn of events

[olive comet]

i cant even see the detail because of discord compressing the image preview on mobile 🥹

BUT I CAN TELL IT LOOKS AMAZING EVEN FROM THE 1 PIXEL QUALITY

nintendo ds looking survivor

this is such a good ledit especially for your first multi screen room!!!

it really feels drainage

[lusty gate]

Thanks a lot!

Yeah, the compression is... yeah

[olive comet]

looking at it on my laptop and it's much better

can't wait to see it in the jam

[lusty gate]

Was gonna send individual screen files too, but got distracted

I'll send them anyway!

[olive comet]

[lusty gate]

So true, honestly

...oh no

I forgot to make the room actually be affected by rain again

I gotta remember to fix that tomorrow

[lusty gate]

DS suivor real!!!

Makes sense, they were in a DS-inspired room

[olive comet]

they are so little

[lusty gate]

Smolvivor

[olive comet]

i would be proud to die here

(the monster kelps will 100% kill me)

[lusty gate]

:kelpsilly:

I only just now found out how to make rain moss darkened

Would've been nice to know earlier... but ah well.

At this point, I've designed the room to not really need recolored rain moss. But I'll keep it in mind in the future!

Never even paid much attention to the existence of effect settings

Yeah it's probably the x here lol

Anyway, that concludes my random ramblings for the day. I'll fix the rain issue tomorrow!

[feral dawn]

You'll set up rain in the dev mode while in your room

[lusty gate]

I know, but still, thanks!

That may or may not be how I got into this situation lol

Still, always good to make sure people know stuff, so thanks for the info!

[feral dawn]

Btw to walk press left and right movement keys

Just to make sure you know

[lusty gate]

wait WHAT

[feral dawn]

Also you can jump by pressing jump

[feral dawn]

Maybe I should have spoil tagged that

[lusty gate]

No, this is incredibly helpful!!! You're telling me I don't need to osmose through terrain and seep across the ground puddle-style super slowly to navigate???

Thanks so much

[rapid agate]

Smh failing your job as a felper /silly

[olive comet]

evil felper

[rotund shoal]

Room looks really nice and fun to play! I like how you added the water level transition and the leeches below the monster kelp platforms to make the gameplay feel more dynamic - feels like the gameplay would fit perfectly in Verdant Waterways

[feral dawn]

[lusty gate]

Thanks a lot!
The dynamic gameplay and alternate routes through the room was very much a big focus while making it, glad to hear you enjoy how it turned out!

[lusty gate]

Finally fixed!!

Now with that out of the way... I have what could potentially be a hard idea.

See, there be no Watcher tiles and props available yet, but I wanna make a Watcher region-inspired room, or even multiple!

And to make matters even harder... the region I have in mind is

Fetid Glen

eh, what's the worst that can happen??

[olive comet]

cant wait until you get your modded artist role

...i think lediting lets you have that role i have no idea though im not a melper

[olive comet]

wait how are people making watcher region inspired rooms

[lusty gate]

A lot of existing tiles that are used in Watcher regions, some tiles that look similar to new ones and mockups of new ones, I would guess

And maybe avoiding room styles that require too much stuff that hasn't released yet, maybe?

I'm probably gonna focus much more on the machinery side of the region rather than the mushroom side due to the lack of the relevant props

(Though, I do wanna use invisible mushrooms for something (), but I don't know how I'd go about doing that at the moment, really)

(I'll figure out something creative, probably )

Oh, I decided to actually plan out part of the layout in advance this time!

[olive comet]

are the lavender scribbles mushrooms

[lusty gate]

I figure this could work as a less annoying use for them - alternate hidden path!

[olive comet]

my one request: little area filled with an unnecessary amount of mushrooms

[lusty gate]

I'll see what I can do

[olive comet]

in general i love how mushroom infested fetid is for no reason 🥹

[lusty gate]

I don't think that particular mushroom prop is available, but I'll figure out something!

[olive comet]

oh i just meant the drugs

[lusty gate]

OHH yeah, sure

I was planning to make a lower-effort one-screen filler cave room too, I'll put a bunch there!

[olive comet]

evil filler cave with a singular frog

/silly

[lusty gate]

I do plan to add some possible frog spawns

[olive comet]

NOOO

at least they're not green leeches...

[lusty gate]

Like, one room with an annoying basilisk, but one with frogs to heal you, and then maybe a pool with 1 leech and some spore puffs to get rid of those too...

[lusty gate]

What if...

/j, I hate those too lol

[olive comet]

🥹

that would be a nice looker gimmick

every leech is a green one x2

misery

[lusty gate]

Oh, ture!! Hmm.... I might suggest it!

Mind if I forward your message to looker devs?

[olive comet]

sure!!!

(what have i done)

[lusty gate]

Actually might be better to screenshot all of them, but yeah, I'll do it!

what have you done...

Actually they might see it here too, but might as well

[olive comet]

[small lichen]

yeah even making a dms skin does

[small lichen]

nah no way they do

[lusty gate]

Aw dangit, how inconvenient

[small lichen]

truly

[lusty gate]

unfalsely

Oh, how would I apply for modding artist then?

Or does the secret modder service apply one to my face when I least expect it

[small lichen]

poke the nearest melper

probably alduris

[lusty gate]

I might bring it up if we talk at any point (in a modding context)!

Which might not be anytime soon

Except discussion of room submissions happen or something

Otherwise he only knows me from my watcher-spoilers rickrolling

[small lichen]

hold on i could add a rickroll to looker

[olive comet]

if there's a rain world version of a rick roll that would be even funnier

needs more ogscules...

[lusty gate]

Maybe when I finally get into music making, I could make a RW-style cover

May not be anytime soon, but I gotta try doing that some day...

[olive comet]

noodlefly version like that bad apple one

[lusty gate]

hmm... are there multiple vocal singers in the song? I can't remember right now lol

I don't think so, but imagine using different noises for each...

[lusty gate]

It's quite late, so here's today's progress on this room so far!

Of course some things are different from the picture - sometimes I feel what's right as I go

Anyway, I'll continue tomorrow!

[olive comet]

looks nice so far

[feral dawn]

I got it just by posting my filtration system room so

I still don't know what it is though lol

[olive comet]

lediting or making a dms skin apparently!!!

[feral dawn]

But what does it do?????????????

[vapid steppe]

Just a cool badge ig?

[feral dawn]

Isn't that what the rwsc roles are for

[olive comet]

i guess it's more like hey i made a cool level or dms skin!!!!

[lusty gate]

Cool badge role...

Anyway, I swear I got a decent amount of sleep last night 🥹

(like, at least 6 hours of sleep, wowie zowie)

I have realized, though, that I may have to try to recreate the mushroom platform tiles/props myself...

Tried to understand this, but I can't really understand it all from just reading

I'm much more of a visual learner.
Thankfully I found this! Much better!

[strange mural]

I think there is a short tile tutorial pinned in some modded chat?

[lusty gate]

Oho, I'll go Look for that too then! Thanks

Found it!!

[olive comet]

wooaah

that's a cool looking lizor head though

[lusty gate]

I remember those are used in Hanging Gardens (amazing region)

Specifically GH, but maybe also HG (old version I haven't played yet)

It's a really cool tile!

[olive comet]

right i plan to play hanging gardens with lush mire and preservatory if i can

i should get to that 🔜

[lusty gate]

Perfect combo honestly! Each region is so good in a different way...

Also if you haven't, try modded Coral Caves! Feels surprisingly different from the Watcher version, and the mod is another one of my favourites (along with Hanging Gardens, Fishnoid is such a good leditor in general)

[olive comet]

maybe i can combine aether ridge, coral caves, and stormy coast then with those three... if they are compatible

[lusty gate]

Coral Caves does connect to Stormy Coast and Aether Ridge (though you may want to enter both from other entrances), so it's possible!

I can't remember if all of the regions are on 1.5 as they generally are now though, as that's the only way to hypothetically play mod Aether Ridge, iirc

Eh, it'll be fine!!

[rotund shoal]

Stormy Coast iirc did not exist on 1.5 - all the others mentioned other than Preservatory did, though!

[lusty gate]

Good to know, thanks!
Though, I think Coral Caves was different at some point?

[rotund shoal]

Coral Caves is significantly different on 1.9, plus some MSC campaigns have their own versions of it (and same for Stormy Coast)

I certainly recommend Hanging Gardens, Lush Mire, and Coral Caves - those were some of my favorite modded regions when I played them on both 1.5 and 1.9

While I haven't played Preservatory I've heard many good things about it

[lusty gate]

Yep, seconded!

Preservatory is honestly really cool, especially theming and lore! the gameplay's pretty decent too, and I like the structure of it!

Someday I also gotta remember to play old Hanging Gardens to see how different that was (probably very different )

Anyway, finished* gameplay for this room!
*will polish a bit more later

I felt a bit uninspired for the right side, but ah well.
I'm open to suggestions for any of these rooms!

And during breaks at school today, I managed to plan out the layout for another room!

...Yeah, complex, I know

How much progress will I make today...?

[lament osprey]

that's a big mush-room!

[lusty gate]

And yet, surprisingly, I don't have mush room to work with

[feral dawn]

Wow pizzas you gonna have a lot of ledits

[lusty gate]

Lotta rooms planned! I hope I can get around to doing all I want...

I think I'll call it here for today.

I've also started making custom mushroom tiles! Might focus more on rooms though, in case I run out of time, so I can at least try to adjust for no shroom.

[olive comet]

all i know from it is that one shelter 🥹

[lusty gate]

In old Hanging Gardens? I can't find any that stick out that much.

There's this one in GH (new Hanging Gardens) which is pretty cool! I remember spending a while in this one

Unless... maybe you're thinking of Concealed Gardens? I haven't played that one, but it does have a very unique shelter, I'm pretty sure