#I hate spear guys
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<@&1137895527271379055> i want to complete the gourmand food quest and go to the journey's end but i have never played downpour and the game spawned me in shaded citadel what do i do
explore, eat, enjoy life
Btw i does every cat eat lizards in downpour
Because gourmand seems to like eating them
What exactly do you need for help? Sounds like you already know what to do
I have never been to the journeys end
Find out 
I finished my first playthrough by absolute luck and use of maps from wiki ๐
Find it

Alright then gotta cook ig
Do you think the first person to play rainworld had a wiki and map to know where to go? 
Who is this
What do i need to eat to fill that food
It's a lizard bu
Which one
I'm thinking it's the ones in the shaded but might be wrong
the icon also slightly shows the color which may help
Definitely the ones in the dark
I one shot everything so they are no problem
This cat is strong
Find out
Well let me ask this? Does survivor eat lizards now
I don't want to reset my survivor or reenter
You don't have to reset it
Survivor can't eat lizards
Oh so it's not one of the qol futures of downpour
What about this i have never seen this
Is it popcorn?
But popcorn isn't gray
<@&1137895527271379055>
What's this food
what color is it? Did you see anything of that color in the wilds? 
it's not really blue before you get it
Maybe i should find a popcorn and try to produce it myself
Ohhhh it's the one that explodes in water
I can produce it myself ๐
I really want to go to the watery area back
It has light
I wish I don't have to return to shaded ever again
My worst nightmare
Almost made me quit the whole game in my first playthrough
My run is cooked
I died after meeting pebbles and i had already entered his home 2 times so if i go there for a neuron again he'll kill me
I won't be able to have slug kids ๐ญ
This isn't the only way to enter that region
Can i go there from the echo?
I already saw the echo so I'll just have to spear the wall and go right?
I have never went there except for the echo
Perhaps, find out
<@&1137895527271379055> why do i have to kill a red centipede that is covered with other centipedes while there is objects blocking my grenade and making me kill myself.......
How do i even kill the red centipede in subterranean
And I don't think my next biome even has them
I need tips plss
I have a bomb and a spear and the bomb doesn't kill it
Whenever i spam spear him i die before him
It wouldn't be fun if it wasn't difficult...
Red centipedes are pretty tough to kill, you might have better luck finding a way to cheese it than trying to fight it head on
And I don't think jumping on centipedes eork
It isn't fun when its too hard either
I wish those scavengers helped me instead of dying to the stupid grass
Basically fighting a red centipede head on is a death sentence unless you have an unreasonable number of explosives and can actually move quickly for more than 5 seconds lmao
Gourmand does have other advantages though
Think out of the box! There's other ways to do it with lethal efficiency 
Especially for gourmand
But jumping on them doesn't seem to work?
I mean I don't have a place to jump from super high so a jump can't kill it either
I do have those explosive plants with rocks to make bombs but the centipedes don't really let me
Are you sure bombs is the only thing you can make? 
I just read Wikipedia
And
I'll make the deer things
I only used the deer things against lizards before i didn't think it would be that useful
So basically the spore puff is a bug spray??
That's crazy
I love rain world ๐
Now i js need drugs and rocks
<@&1137895527271379055> I KILLED A RED CENTIPEDE AND SUCCESSFULLY HIBERNATED AFTERWARDS
the food quest is DONE
I js need to finish the game now
CONGRATS!!!

Now i will just return to my home and i should gain the ability to adopt children ๐ฅฐ
<@&1137895527271379055> finally finished the playthrough!
I died 144 times during this journey๐ฅฐ
5 hours
How is this
Why does it say 5 hours in points place but 13 hours in character
Which one is it
It says 13??
Should i play artificer next?
well done! ๐ The score screen time only accounts for successful cycles time
Oh so for about 8 hours was just waste ๐
investment into game experience rather 
it's not a waste as long as you had fun 
Investment into my hate towards gourmand's tired state
can't argue with that 
Well this is it for today ig I'll start artificer tomorrow. So see you all then ๐
Combusting all over scavengers
Artificer is going to be difficult
I just started the playthrough and already died 10 or so times trying to pass scavenger gate
What things have you tried eating so far?
Blue popping things and fruit but they don't give a lot
also animoso there arent any scavs there :P
Other things i found were centipedes
before ๐ค come there prepared 
scavengers in the post title are a spoiler aren't they 
Sre they????
The names of creatures are spoilers usually.
Well i will change it just in case
actually yeah
Did you try eating other common things, like blue fruit or batflies? How much do they feed you?
I hate spear guys
Not a lot
The one popped in water was a failure
Idk i didn't find bats here
Have you played other slugcats that get such small amount of feeding with fruits too? Or is this the first time it happened?
Idk why but the area is so dark i can't hunt the centipedes
First time
I only played gourmand and survivor lol
I could kill them if it wasn't for the darkness
Different slugcats have different diets.
Experiment and see what can or cannot be eaten.
Learnt it the hard way
Maybe there were things you couldn't eat as Survivor that Arti can.
I might leave this run and go to outskirts from garbage wastes and then chimney canopy
then sky islands and then ascent?
Idrk
Maybe five pebbles
Before sky islands
what abilities do you know artificer can do?
Lizards centipedes etc ik
asking since there's something they can do that's not specified ingame
Explode to double jump turn rocks to bombs spears to explosive spears
IMDUM
i can kill centipedes with bombs
I have homemade bombs
You mean the down explosion thing
The parry?
I have looked up some info
yeah 
I found it quite hard to use against stuff
it's unfortunate it's never talked about ingame
The bite damage is fine against peaceful creatures but
How many times would i need to bite a centipede lol
yeah it can take some practice 
explosives are fun when they aren't lethal 
Fr i died about 20 times to explosives while playing gourmand cuz i tried killing red centipedes with bombs
Other times it was the red centipede
i always underestimate how far i have to be for the explosion to not instant kill me
Where should i go after meeting five pebbles
I went to the place i unlocked after beating gourmand
But idrk if it's the right place
So i didn't den
<@&1137895527271379055>
Did you get anything out of your interaction?
I missed a sentence because it went too fast but he said we both hated scavengers and some were harming the roof of his structure
Idk where is the roof
It's a new place, right? Then maybe you should take your time to explore the new zone.
What does it look like?
Like this
Oh... so you are here already 
To return I'll need max karma that's my worry. Returning will require a scavenger
Is it a wrong turn...
If i den here and have to return
ill have to deal with scavenger
And they suck
So much
Does it feel wrong to you? If you haven't explores it yet then it's worth to do so
They always team fr cuz they aren't beating me in a 1v1
It could go to the roof ig
i Mean i probably haven't been to his roof
So a new place could mean it
I just don't understand why i unlocked this place after gourmand
What would happen if i played artificer before gourmand
Would the game be locked
You're playing Arti. Karma requirement is hardly an issue.
Or would i only be able to get the ascension ending
Just keep killing until you find a scav with enough karma, if you want to return at any point.
Im so unsure but i mean if i don't go here I'll go to chimney conopy
Then sky islands then idkkk
I'll just be exploring
It's up to you.
You sure you unlocked this place with gourmand? Wasn't it always there? 
Idk i assumed it was that one
With gourmand i couldn't enter this door.
Where did you explore with gourm?
i understand it alll
Outer expanse
I even found some other slugcats
Super cute ending tbh
Should I fetch the 5 Pebbles dialogue from Gourmand's campaign for a refresher?
Pls
I kinda forgot it
I dont even know some of the artificer dialogue cuz it skipped too fast
Five pebbles is a fast speaker ig
[...]
I do not believe my intended purpose will be much help to you. I can however encourage you and your kind to leave my facility grounds.
Unfortunately, the same locks that were supposed to prevent creatures from getting in, will now prevent you from getting out. Perhaps this strategy was ill conceived after all.
Allow me to just...
Go west, through the underground tunnels at the outskirts of my territory. You will find the gate to the world outside of it now unlocked.
In return I ask that you encourage your community, through whatever method of communication you choose to employ, to also go west. Off into the wastes below, far away from me and my work.
Also, remember that you can pause the game during dialogues if you need more time to read.

Ah that's a thing????
Thanks I'll put it to use next time
I'll just continue genociding ig
this place is scavenger helll
So so so many scavengers and chaos
I killed 4 of them without even noticing cuz i was trying to escape a flying centipede and a shooting vulture
Judging by 5 Pebbles' dialogue with Artificer, it appears that he has a bit of an issue with scavengers taking residence in his city and causing problems.
He has kindly and politely requested you to solve the issue.
[...]
However, if you intend to carry that device around and masquerade as one of my citizens, then perhaps you can at least properly perform your responsibility of tending to this superstructure.
From the glimpses I've been shown of your journey so far, it is apparent you have a need to inflict violence against the scavenger population. While I find your way of life appalling, it seems we share a common enemy.
A large pack of them has made a home in my city, and have been causing progressive damage to the roof of my structure in their attempts to gather scrap metal and other mechanical parts.
As my dutiful citizen, I would encourage you to return home to your city and pay them a visit.
Perhaps in that way, we can both depart from this interaction with something we desire.
In case you missed his dialogue with Arti as well.
Ye they killed my children
I had dreams about them
I finished the game though
I'm the leader
<@&1137895527271379055> which slug now
The watery one or spearmaster
I prefer to go with spearmaster first 
I honestly really want to play spear master
Well if it's before the watery one in story I'm in
also congrats 
Thx it was fun to fight a boss
both of them should be available at this point
Ye they are that's why i didn't know which one to choose
Whatever I'll just go spear master cuz it look interesting
Both are interesting, but they have very different play styles.
Spearmaster has a ton of lore in it though, which might help you understand a few things better.
gratz !
Guys
<@&1137895527271379055>
five Pebbles
Keeps
Killing
Me
It yoinks a pearl from me
Maybe try going a different way
Did i skip a part or wha?
very friendly and affectionate way to say that
yep just yoinks a pearl from me then sends me out of the room
Nah but if you keep dying to the same thing (that isnโt a normal hungry creature) perhaps it isnโt where you should be
animosoโs tip is 100/10
Mgm
I can only go to
Chimney Canopy
Or the exterior ๐๐ถโ๐ซ๏ธ
The exterior sucks
So much
And i already came from chimney
Is there any in game clue guiding me
Orange thing kept telling me to go five pebbles
Not specifically but you can always go to key areas you remember from previous campaigns
Don't make me go to outer expanse or smth ๐ญ
Depths???
What about
I go to sky islands
It's very close
I could re check
Chimney yoo
Too*
what significant places did you visit in previous campaigns?
Five pebbles mostly. Visited looks to the moon once too
why did you visit moon?
Should i go to looks to the moon
I only visited her on my first ever playthrough by accident
oh
and never again?
perhaps you should check her out more
Yes usually because i don't have tbe mind reading thing when i visit her and after getting the mind thing returning to her sucks
Ew scavenger
but he give u cheeseburger
lemme help
After artificer i started to kill them on sight ๐ด
I could kill and take it back
bad sprinkles >:(
The more you do it the easier it gets also 
Moon has a very small room anyway it should come to me by itself ๐
I wish that was the case tooโฆโฆ.
I'll probably hate the game 10x more for about 2-3 hours then love it 30x more afterwards
It's still in my chest
I didn't go to pebbles this time
So i haven't met pebbles yet probably
Cuz i died
Should i go to pebbles and let it rip it out then carry by hand??
Or chest works
if you acquire it again just donโt lose it
up to you how you go about it!
Chest is safer and lets me have 2 spears
I still don't know why pebbles get mad when they read the pearl
I will get a passage and go to the closest den to looks to the moon
<@&1137895527271379055> did i ruin something for not letting fibe pebbles rip the pearl from me
Because after it killed me instead of going back to it i just went to the leg to go looks to the moon
I mean... you can always come back in case of anything can you?
But that way is too long id rather quit the slug
why is spearmaster so hard ๐ญ
Youโre just not used to it yet 
Have you seen how many bones Spearmaster has in his system?
No wonder he's hard.
If you like your scugs softer, Gourmand is also a good choice.

i have been
trying to
gain
max karma
for hours
but nothing even spawns and when they do they are in a bad spot
<@&1137895527271379055>
im in zero karma again ๐ญ
already used dragonslayer and the survivor (literally spent one on nothinh because i forgot to choose den)
Why do you need karma?
gate
to the
looks to the mon
moon*
from precipice
tips or anything to find food because mines stopped spawning
Precipice is quite big, surely you can find food there
Maybe try to find another way. Or travel somewhere else to farm karma and come back here ready to cross the gate
ill have to parkour then ๐ญ
Well, yeah
i hate this game with passion ๐
This isn't the only route to Moon
is there one with zero karma requirement
lemme check the wiki
ill not think twice if it isnt from shaded citadel
i cannot see miros bird
or ill get even more traumatized
Try exploring precipice
i checked the wiki and found a zero karma door. thank you for saving my run ๐
Part of the reason those doors have requirements is to make you learn how to survive in a given area
There will always be food and always be a way to get to the karma needed 
All food sources eventually respawn so itโs impossible to deplete an area too
what do you mean by this?
everything is possible.
there is pretty much always another route to get to where you want to be
the another route wants max karma and id rather quit the game all together
ill find a way from here
you can always just eat and shelter in the same spot a few times
you dont have to move to a new spot, and food respawns
still very hard
food respawns very slow
i found a way through the 0 karma door anyway
why why why why why are those things that pull you down are invisible
what things?
yeah its just gonna take time
<@&1137895527271379055> do i have to go through the luna to get to looks to the moon
Only one way to find out
im in the same room but
have you reached her already?
her room is in the room
i checked almost everywhere but let me check again
if it doesnt work
ill go to luna
wdym by that
๐จ
will i go through the luna
that's the whole region, which part are you referring to
im in the den in the blue area
you cannot access her room from that side, no.
(obligatory mention that we heavily discourage using external map resources and the wiki and whatnot)
i honestly couldnt do without them
looks to the moon is reaaally confusing
I bet you could :P
i tried not using maps with artificier and got lost so bad i used the map to see i was the opposite place from where i wanted to be
the secret to finding things is simple: Go to the places you have not already been and you'll eventually find everything ๐
but genuinely, just look on your map for unexplored pipes and it tends to solve most cases of The Lostโข
yeah but i dont want to explore like seven brides thing with miros birds while playing artficer
why not ๐ฅบ
if you are going to use a map anyway, the answers lie within it
but i second kalum in believing that you have the ability to find things by exploring without it
because dark area and miros birds
that's what explosions are for ๐
dark areas is the number one thing that made me rage quit the game multiple times
the game does provide you with a map that shows the room geometry and reveals paths you havent taken
checking the map every 3 sec sucks
then dont check every 3 seconds,,
but i get lost you dont know how bad i am loll
you only get better at it with practice 
yeah i try to not use maps until end game but in the end game places like looks to the moon confuse me
i wouldnt get lost a 2nd time tho
so if i come here with another sluf
ill not use maps
how do you know its endgame
because since i started playing downpour i noticed iterators are close to the end
like five pebbles is usually one of the last things i visit before finishing
its my 2nd ever time going to looks to the moon
1st was with survivor


