New creatures and "new interactions with creatures(?)"
#how can you love the things that you hate
icy stump
Can't be sure yet what's meant by that but l can hope it'll mean the critters will be less 'sterile'
And will do more
Will be greatly enthused if that happens. One of my complaints was an incomplete food chain sensation
(James said there will be)
ripe zenith
oh hold up thats huge
ripe zenith
i just want a story thats not %95 theories
icy stump
But, lore source item was divulged concretely
This doesn't guarantee a new iterator probably
But I'd love to see one
They might be read by the prince
Or another npc
New npcs are something guaranteed
We have two separate dialogue chunks absent from the game that match neither current character's speech patterns comfortably
ripe zenith
eh, i'll just wait for the update
icy stump
The roster sits at .. new regions, new animals, some form of character, arena stuff, and "at least two endings"
ripe zenith
new regions?
icy stump
I'll be interested seeing how the watcher campaign functions with a whopping 4-5 plotlines + endings simultaneously... is it even a benefit? Might get very confusing. Head-hurting.
icy stump
Yes of course new regions
.. the new endings will need somewhere to be hosted at, and then there's general environmental regions
An example, a modregion named Lumen Station has been hypothesized to get included in watcher due to patterns; the stream's response to question about it have corroborated that likelihood; one of the shots in that trailer might be lumen station too
ripe zenith
how not exciting!
ripe zenith
you lost me at mod region
icy stump
Fresh content is to rejoice in
ripe zenith
you lost me at "watcher", pft
ripe zenith
Fresh content is to rejoice in
fresh content is to fear what you don't want or need
i really wish watcher just didnt come out
but thats selfish
loud knoll
you lost me at mod region
downpour in only mod regions 
ripe zenith
thatd be cool
ripe zenith
its several mods poured into one dlc
oh is that what you meant
well downpour has like x5 more content so im not even gonna explain myself
loud knoll
oh is that what you meant
yup
icy stump
well downpour has like x5 more content so im not even gonna explain myself
By what metric 
Regions/rooms/creatures, watcher outnumbers massively
Lore (pearls broadcasts general dialogue or whatever), and externals like expedition/arena/challenges and steam achievements downpour has upper hand, we'll see how that changes though
The update will bring a whopping FIFTY arena rooms supposedly 
That's quite monstrous
ripe zenith
Regions/rooms/creatures, watcher outnumbers massively
campaigns
sure watcher has more regions but downpour regions are so much more well thought out
the rot, for example is one of my favorites
icy stump
And if watcher via multiple plots ends up qualifying as five campaigns 
ripe zenith
no
just
no
i cant play those regions with any other slugcat
which sucks for me
icy stump
Every dp campaign is just "same map with one or 2 exclusive plot regions"
icy stump
I'm not saying it's bad
I'm saying that, super crudely and technically, that makes watcher's different plots fit the same shoes 
Same map ... a specific endgame relevant region each
ripe zenith
fair enough i guess
icy stump
sure watcher has more regions but downpour regions are so much more well thought...
No debate there tho ..
ripe zenith
but doing all of that as just watcher sounds realy boring
ripe zenith
yeah people like writing off downpour's writing as just teenage drama but i like it honestly
icy stump
Metropolis fucking rules even though they screwed up the scale
ripe zenith
cause i can actually udnerstand whats going on
as opposed to just
"here's some cryptic bullshit, have fun trying to figure this out"
the update better fix that, and make the "story" more accessable
icy stump
I think dp writing (in reference to dialogue) is a bit goofy versus vanilla's but it's nowhere at all near like
The average fanfic level
Leagues above it in quality
I generally like how the characters are handled
Except nsh 
icy stump
Nsh isn't portrayed bad or anything
But he's an entirely different iterator
Very immersion breaking
ripe zenith
i dont really care too much about "preserving the integrity" so it doesnt bother me
icy stump
I headcanon that between SM and Hunter, arti went to his can and lobotomised him in the memory conflux
The only explanation
ripe zenith
based
anyway, watcher will always be fundamentally not my thing, but you guys have fun ig
icy stump
It aims for the abstract mystique of playing vanilla blind, and that's ok if some ppl mesh with it less compared to dp trying to be more public friendly and traditional videogame-like 
ripe zenith
if someone wants to spoil 1.5 for me i'm down 🔥
icy stump
John weaver
Installing it now .. excited to see what transpires .....
I did hear confirnation that there's pearls, standard lore pearls. The difference l think's that you don't get em read by an npc? I'll have to find out the method ..
Deadends were cleaned up, which is great, the world was infested with em
Tiny useless regions like Sunlit Port have reportedly gained sizeable expansion
ripe zenith
cool cool, more for you to chew
icy stump
If you're adamant to not try to engage with this dlc you know you can just shut down the thread 
ripe zenith
ok yeah good idea