deltarune ch3-4 (soiler warning)

[opal grotto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tCS3Bo7ERM

[woven tulip]

no

there are also toriel calls in the first chapter

unless it suddenly gets a dark spiky dialogue box if it’s a bit far from you

[coral ibex]

yeah, knight caller doesnt make much sense the longer i think about it

it could be asriel and hes just really far away with bad connection. saw a theory about that

he is on his way home so the “ill be there soon” makes sense

he might be in on the whole conspiracy

[vivid verge]

"Mild violence" what are you the esrb?

Rory knight is obviously Chester

I leveled up from that

[sleek pendant]

playing chapter 9 rn

[steep ridge]

you only get that if you collect all the star coins

[sleek pendant]

I got all 2837 star coins already

[steep ridge]

did u also get all T rank in chapter 3?

[sleek pendant]

I got U rank

which is even better

[steep ridge]

theres no U rank

[sleek pendant]

yes there is

you just have

skill issue

[steep ridge]

not a skill issue if i never actually play the game

[sleek pendant]

well then you cant know if there is or isnt a U rank then

[steep ridge]

its a lil technique i call "google"

as for the former, its a lil technique i call "liking the game but not enough to actually play it"

[sleek pendant]

kills you

[steep ridge]

parries

[sleek pendant]

erm

hacker

[vivid verge]

+fistful of coins

[supple belfry]

v1

[vivid verge]

1 more level guys

[quartz spindle]

Hello deltarune

[leaden glacier]

hihi

[quartz spindle]

What are the thoughts on the ideas of 2 callers on thr phone

[leaden glacier]

i think it’s possible maybe

[hasty sapphire]

I think it's very unlikely but not impossible

[uneven prism]

Yeah it's baby bones and dirty brother

[finite phoenix]

very unlikely
it has to contend with the theory that it's just carol

[hasty sapphire]

I don't believe it's Carol either

Both knight and Carol fit as a caller, but if it's knight it leaves a lot of things about Carol unexplained and if it's Carol it leaves the weird route call sounding normal

One thing that might not make sense about Carol caller is if she's in the evil chat group why would she need the conspiracy board and Asgore helping her with it

I could see her keeping Asgore close to not let him find out too much but having her own board still wouldn't make a lot of sense

[versed urchin]

its literally The J though??

[tame glen]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HUxDjV03rwY?feature=share

[crude gull]

is this real chat

[vivid verge]

I dont think Carol is the caller on the normal route.

[hasty sapphire]

Neither do I

[vivid verge]

On weird route? 100%

[mild hull]

I thought this gif was Friend when I saw it out of the corner of my eye

[elfin sun]

LMAO

friend inside bowl

[leaden glacier]

ralsei would have so much fun in the time loop it would be enrichment for him (LYING. DO NOT PUT YOUR RALSEIS IN THE TIME LOOP

[heady fossil]

I'm gonna put my Ralseis in a time loop

[elfin sun]

putting my ralsei in the time loop

[leaden glacier]

he will die i think

[elfin sun]

thus is the sacrifice of science

[leaden glacier]

you would sacrifice ralsei ??

[elfin sun]

😔

probably not but

such is the sacrifice of science or smth

[hasty sapphire]

Show compassion

[elfin sun]

shall love win

[leaden glacier]

or shall LOVE win

i don’t think ralsei would start killing anyways so

LOVE shall not win

[elfin sun]

so love will win

i will not put ralsei in the time loop

[leaden glacier]

🎉

[elfin sun]

...

or?

[leaden glacier]

not, of his own accord at least

[elfin sun]

i have come to a solution, i shall put ralseis evil twin in the time loop 😌

[leaden glacier]

egoort…

(really shitty anagram of togore

[elfin sun]

yep egoort

[hasty sapphire]

Do we not believe in the kind buster

[elfin sun]

i personally like neutral buster

[woven tulip]

ralsei already killed the gerson statue without even saying anything

[elfin sun]

statue

[woven tulip]

it’s alive

as much as any other darkner

[elfin sun]

[hasty sapphire]

It's much less collaborative than a regular darkner but still

Almost like Ralsei treats the statue the same way he treats titanspawn

[woven tulip]

which are probably alive too , they seem to be like pipis (not fleeing but actually dying), killing them makes you stronger

[hasty sapphire]

Don't think he was wrong about them not having consciousness since they don't understand mercy

Maybe the same applies to the statue

Why would a normal darkner get a titan like properties though

[woven tulip]

maybe ralsei is wrong about titans ... but still, the fact that you get stronger from killing titan spawns, and them having a normal darkner death animation (only seen with pipis and snowgrave, other darkners escape instead), implies they have to be alive in some way

[hasty sapphire]

Well he never said they're not alive

[woven tulip]

tbf, ralsei doesn’t think any darkner is real .

idk why ralsei treats other darkners differently though , maybe because normal darkners serve some purpose for lightners, but titan spawns are just purely an obstacle

oh wait, maybe ralsei just plays pacifist purely in hopes to change the prophecy /j

[hasty sapphire]

Guess he already gave up

Kindbuster in ch5 confirmed

[woven tulip]

friendliness pellets buster

[hasty sapphire]

Ralsei only ch5 secret boss confirmed

He will learn the power of kindness from flowey

[woven tulip]

ralsei is ch5 secret boss

[woven tulip]

you mean flowery

[elfin sun]

that would be so good wth

[hasty sapphire]

Eh not a fan

[woven tulip]

ch6 noelle only secret boss

[hasty sapphire]

Don't really like the idea of Ralsei's character arc being the exact mirror of Susie's

[elfin sun]

ch7 berdly only secret boss

[hasty sapphire]

I want Kris as a secret boss

[elfin sun]

not really what i meant, just a ralsei only boss in general would be good

[woven tulip]

but kris would take damage from attacking the soul 💔

[elfin sun]

doesnt have to be an arc or anything

[hasty sapphire]

The fight being Ralsei only does have to mean something

[elfin sun]

i suppose

[hasty sapphire]

A character development is the most obvious one

Maybe you could do something else but idk

Not a fan of "everyone gets their own dedicated secret boss" pattern either

[elfin sun]

if done well it would be cool

[hasty sapphire]

Or any patterns really

[elfin sun]

not even the freedom pattern

smhhh /j

[hasty sapphire]

Especially the freedom pattern

[elfin sun]

[hasty sapphire]

People trying to fit old man into the "discarded" pattern is just

[elfin sun]

LMAO

[woven tulip]

obviously the main party in ch5 will be kris, susie, and noelle, entering the dark world from the festival. in the middle of the chapter susie starts to worry about where is ralsei, and asks kris "...uh kris, can you do this "closing eyes" thing", and we will see ralsei fighting something

[hasty sapphire]

Ok honestly the freedom motif isn't that bad but some other patterns people try to fit everything in are getting ridiculous

[hasty sapphire]

I'm still not sure if we'll get Noelle in the normal route at all, I don't think Carol would be happy about her going to the festival

Guess Rudy will use the last bits of his power to break her out

[elfin sun]

the freedom pattern is very obviously what they want to do, jevil nows about this it being a gameish, spamton does too ERAM is ERAM and knows about this too and gerson literally wrote a version of the game

[woven tulip]

would carol even know where is noelle?

[hasty sapphire]

Noelle development in ch5 is kinda needed if she's going to be an important character in both routes so I guess they'll find a way

[elfin sun]

we do need more noelle development

i want more noelle

GRAAAAH

so eepy

[woven tulip]

"that my secret sibling, Noelle2" — noelle holiday, ch5

[elfin sun]

im personally a fan of rory nyte

[hasty sapphire]

Togore

[leaden glacier]

go to sleep 🧱 <-brick to conk you

[elfin sun]

hmmm nah

id win

i will get sleep soon

[woven tulip]

do you remember sonk, the sibling of survivor and monk

[elfin sun]

ermmmm this is a deltarune thread /jilly

[woven tulip]

ch5 will have rain dark world

[elfin sun]

ermmmm where is this stated

[hasty sapphire]

We already had that in ch4

[woven tulip]

toby fox said on google+

[elfin sun]

ahhh i see

thank

[elfin sun]

that was rain light world smhhhhh

[hasty sapphire]

There was some rain in the dark world too

[elfin sun]

true...

[woven tulip]

how rain even works in dark worlds

do they even have the sky

[hasty sapphire]

Probably not

[elfin sun]

probably just like

[hasty sapphire]

We have yet to have a dark world in open space

[elfin sun]

dark world stuff

[rapid flame]

i have a feeling a dark world in an open space Will happen. and that it will Not be a good thing

unless maybe itd kinda disappear because Too Bright

[hasty sapphire]

I think that'd be the roaring

[clear sparrow]

why wont the knight just stab the earth outside during the night, are they tupid....

[signal grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_6wj2zCpfc

the delta rune a genda

[woven tulip]

deltarune gender theory

gaster created gender

[mild hull]

woke demi gender

[woven tulip]

"One day, [W(oke) D. Gaster] fell into they/them creation, and..." — woker follower

[finite phoenix]

the dark

it's the same reason jackenstein gets the treasure mechanic
they're in the dark zone, Halloween is a holiday about spooky and scary things
titans are the fear of dark

[hasty sapphire]

I mean personality

Jackenstein is just a regular darkner using titan mechanics, statue acts unusually hostile towards you and refuses to listen

Almost like it has no consciousness and it just seeks to destroy

[clear sparrow]

i think the "titan mechanics" is literally just

its dark

thats about it

[hasty sapphire]

There are also those things damaging you in the dark before the old man

Doubt it's old man himself so it could be spawn

[clear sparrow]

they are spawn

the sprite used for it is literally just spawn

[uneven prism]

It snew

[blissful ivy]

it happon

[grand slate]

Your taking too long :) IS TAKING TOO LONG

[supple belfry]

where did the low quality jpeg image of noel looking up came from?

[vivid verge]

An artist

[quartz spindle]

Okay but wouldn't the dark parts of the dark world be brighter technically

[uneven prism]

RANDOM RAIN WORLD TRIVIA: ummmmm uhhhhh eehhh I forgot

WAIT A MINUTE!!!

This isn't spoilergen

[leaden glacier]

no rain world discussion…

[uneven prism]

Enjoy your random rain world trivia Deltarune thread!!!

[crude gull]

random

deltarune

🔪

[leaden glacier]

deltarune trivia: pippins appear in chapter 1

[uneven prism]

Deltarune trivia: pippins don't appear in chapter 2

[leaden glacier]

deltarune trivia: pippins will probably appear in chapter 5

[crude gull]

pippins is boring!!!!!!!!!

[leaden glacier]

deltarune trivia: @crude gull is boring

[sudden pilot]

Deltarune trivia: @leaden glacier will be exploded by queen in 10

[leaden glacier]

all for liking pippinses…. and surely nothing else…… they hate me for my pippins enjoying swag…………. and nothing else…………………

[elfin sun]

this is blasphemy

evil

pippins are great

[sudden pilot]

I am killing you personally

Because yoy called noon boring

[elfin sun]

oh that reason is fair and good

[hasty sapphire]

Pippins are lame

According to pippins

[elfin sun]

❌

[leaden glacier]

that is fair

it was meant to be a silly jab after noon called pippinses boring but i should have tone tagged it

@crude gull you are actually very cool btw

slash genuine

[crude gull]

WHAT

yay

[woven tulip]

no they do

[crude gull]

aam i really?

[leaden glacier]

yes !!

[crude gull]

this is umviebeing a ble

[leaden glacier]

but true!

[elfin sun]

this pog emoji is so weird...

[hasty sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[uneven prism]

YOU appear in chapter 2

Actually wait there's one in the dojo yeah

And then werewerewire kills them

[hasty sapphire]

And then revives in ch4

[woven tulip]

as you know, YOU are in chapter 2.

[supple belfry]

as you know, FISH

[elfin sun]

as you know,,,, i am uh er....

[supple belfry]

in chapter 5, you will be forced to fish for the random kid giving you fishing missions

[elfin sun]

this will be half of the chapter

[hasty sapphire]

The other half is Kris flirting

[uneven prism]

Starwalker will be in chapter 5

[elfin sun]

i hope so

[leaden glacier]

are you sure. did you confirm this.

do you have proof.

okay actually i have a crazy theory. i think kris shows up in chapter 5 6 AND 7

[elfin sun]

will starwalker be im ch5? find out next time on deltarrune ch5

[crimson wyvern]

i tried listening to black knife a minute ago and it sounds different /neg

[leaden glacier]

how so

[crimson wyvern]

my ears are ruined 💔

[crimson wyvern]

its like the bass is alot lighter

and doesnt feel like it has as much weight

[elfin sun]

[crimson wyvern]

hopefully it'll sound normal tomorrow-

[elfin sun]

i hope so too

[supple belfry]

the trinity test is going to appear in chapter 5 where ralsei finally snaps and proceeds to become Oppenheimer

[elfin sun]

black knife is so good i hope it stays the same..

[hasty sapphire]

I hope we get guardian 2

[leaden glacier]

hmm black knife does actually sound awesomes i should add it to my songs i like playlist

[crimson wyvern]

true...

[woven tulip]

i’m with hope crossed on my heart*

[crimson wyvern]

come to think of it nothing im listening to is hitting right today

[elfin sun]

i need to add it too shit

[elfin sun]

NOO

[leaden glacier]

the problem with the deltarune ost is there’s too much peak i can’t remember what i like and what i don’t like enough to listen to outside of the game /silly

[crimson wyvern]

truest most factual thing ever,,,

[elfin sun]

true...

[crimson wyvern]

t rank room music my beloved

[hasty sapphire]

S rank room music

[leaden glacier]

which song is t rank again i forgot

[hasty sapphire]

King of rolypoly

[leaden glacier]

SO THATS WHAT THAT WAS.

that makes sense that was the only song i could not figure out where the hell it played

[crimson wyvern]

i have no idea what the soundtrack is called outside of the files-

[leaden glacier]

case in point: i don’t have hammer of justice on there

[crimson wyvern]

oh

[leaden glacier]

fair yeagh

[elfin sun]

[leaden glacier]

i was focused on chapters 2-3 mostly,,,,,

[elfin sun]

true but

[leaden glacier]

i only have like. field of hopes and dreams from c1

[crimson wyvern]

guardian and spawn thooooooooooooooo

[hasty sapphire]

I only added 6 songs from new chapters to my playlist

[elfin sun]

i really need to add deltarune songs too they are so good grahhh

[leaden glacier]

Hold on i need to check if neverending night is peak as well

[hasty sapphire]

I need more guardian motif songs

Why is it only in one song

[elfin sun]

as much as i hunterbaffle this i am the same with this

[supple belfry]

this cool

[leaden glacier]

oh that’s big rain world spoilers

offtopic genderal rules still apply here

[sudden pilot]

[elfin sun]

i believe you can post rw stuff here but spoilered but i may be wrong

[sudden pilot]

It’s kinda the reverse almost

[elfin sun]

hmmmm

[sudden pilot]

We’re allowed to post full DR soilers here

Yet it needs to be spoiled in other areas

[heady fossil]

Like all other games

[elfin sun]

true...

[leaden glacier]

#1282530680206524448 message

[elfin sun]

ok

i was wrong

spreading misinfo even

[leaden glacier]

anyways i think apple music should allow you to set default playback speed

i’d love neverending night if it was just Slightly faster. like it’s really good for the credits but. for listening outside credits purposes

[elfin sun]

does it not...thats lame

[leaden glacier]

happens to the best of us

[elfin sun]

oh my lord i cannot type my brain is so fried help...

[leaden glacier]

How did i not have a dark zone on my playlist

[crimson wyvern]

YOUR TAKING TOO LONG

[elfin sun]

execute

[leaden glacier]

a fair response

okay now it’s time to go back to chapter one soundtrack and see what peak i missed

[elfin sun]

have fun

[leaden glacier]

Rude buster

okay it turns out i’m very forgetful and also need better taste

[hasty sapphire]

Chat

Is there or is there not a lost girl motif in black knife

[leaden glacier]

there is iirc

hold on wiki has letimotifs

[elfin sun]

ive heard mixed things on that

[leaden glacier]

huh, no actually

i think some of the instruments sound similar? i may be wrong

https://www.tumblr.com/the-shadowguy/789697372483682304/could-you-play-your-sax-jingle-but-slowed-down-i (shadowguy legend)

[elfin sun]

i feel that would kinda confirm dess as the knight tbf...,...

[leaden glacier]

oh wait it’s legend apparently maybe??

[leaden glacier]

fair yeah

actually noelle is the knight, she just had a major wardrobe change between chapters and is fucking with everyone

[elfin sun]

did toby foxed confirm thi

[leaden glacier]

personally as a dess knight believer i think she has enough indicators as is but swagever

[hasty sapphire]

Shadow guy is the knight

[elfin sun]

dess is the knight dess is the knight dess is the knight gfrahh....

[leaden glacier]

yeah if you play knock you down perfectly pre kyd patch toby fox sends you an email saying “noelle knight”

[leaden glacier]

it all makes sense,,,

[elfin sun]

noelle knight 🥹

[leaden glacier]

mostly because:

• visual motifs (antlers, snowflake attack, bat, etc)
• vibes (there’s nobody else who would act like that who is healthy enough to act like that)
• dark worlds made by the knight reflecting a lot of what we’re told about dess

but i think i’ve mentioned this all before in this company

[elfin sun]

hmmm wouldnt susie recognize.. carol if she was the knight

[leaden glacier]

i mean, not necessarily? the knight doesn’t really. Look like carol.

[elfin sun]

susie sees the knight in the light world

though i guess armor could be used to defend that?

[leaden glacier]

it’s dark and all she says is a “figure” is running away

[elfin sun]

true.....

my hands are so shaky holy moly

[leaden glacier]

go to sleep maybe ?

or like. drink water and have a scrumptious snack

[elfin sun]

no im just cold

i think

i just had a really cold drink

[leaden glacier]

you should get a blanket

[elfin sun]

i do

[leaden glacier]

you should get. another blanket

[elfin sun]

i dont have that many blankets

[leaden glacier]

tbh my main thing against carol knight is what the hell was her weapon since it can’t the katana

[leaden glacier]

aww

[hasty sapphire]

Why can't it the katana

[elfin sun]

yeah like

[leaden glacier]

katana sprite doesn’t change whether susie chips the knight’s blade or not

[hasty sapphire]

Other than it being a bat at the start katana would still make sense I think

[hasty sapphire]

Could be other katana, Carol has like at least 3 of them

[elfin sun]

(this has stayed between all of the patches so far)

[hasty sapphire]

Also sword regenerates few moments after you chip a piece off it

[leaden glacier]

i’m willing to forgive odd proportions given kris’ pencil is a sword so it doesn’t have to match up visually but the actual state of the weapon does have to match (broken sword-broken pencil)

[leaden glacier]

oh shit for real?

[elfin sun]

im im gonna leave i am shaky and a little tired by every scug!!!

[leaden glacier]

bye bye!

[hasty sapphire]

Yeah, the moment victory exclusive cutscene ends sword just goes back to normal for the rest of the game

[leaden glacier]

though, i do think it’s noteworthy the katana doesn’t seem to be black

though idk shit about the other katanas

so

[hasty sapphire]

One in Carol's room looks black

[leaden glacier]

however it is ?? Very odd to have a bat made of that material??? so that’s also kind of an argument against dess knight

[leaden glacier]

ah i 🌊

actually do you know where i might be able to find the other katana sprites or should i just wait until i can poke around data win

[hasty sapphire]

Well it's weird to have a katana made of glass too

[leaden glacier]

yeah but it’s way less weird than a bat

[uneven prism]

actually chapter 5 is gonna be like mother 3 chapter 5 and be extremely short with minimal dialouge and its gonna be susies backstory i know togy fox

[leaden glacier]

darn,,,,

[leaden glacier]

someone did say the black shard was likely obsidian, which clearly hints towards a fight with a geologist with dess in our party

[hasty sapphire]

Gerson knight real

[leaden glacier]

i do still think most other potential knight candidates just don’t work for how the dark worlds look

for carol she just. doesn’t seem like she’d know gerson that well, nor do i think it really makes sense for queen to parallel her if she’s the knight ?

rudy i could see some of the stuff working for him but i don’t think he’d have the time to look really cool in the sanctuary when he sounds like he’s fucking dying after church

and then everyone else doesn’t really fit any of the visual motifs

[hasty sapphire]

Yeah

That's why we should speculate on who's the caller instead

[leaden glacier]

on the topic of knight candidates someone had a really good theory for what’s actually going on with papyrus instead

[hasty sapphire]

Or whether the second girl is Noelle or Susie

[leaden glacier]

i’ve seen someone say it might depend on the route

like, weird route girl is noelle and normal route girl is susie

[leaden glacier]

(tl;dr: papyrus is the warrior employee from ice-e

[hasty sapphire]

It could be, but the prophecy getting fulfilled in either route leaves Susie less opportunity to break it

I think it would be cool if the hero wasn't Susie but she forces herself in that position anyway

[leaden glacier]

i mean, she has tried to go against it once already and that certainly didn’t work out <-insane

[hasty sapphire]

How

[leaden glacier]

okay i don’t have the theory on hand so bear with me from my shitty memory

but it’s like. yknow how papyrus gets lost in the whole. hero persona in undertale. how his “battle body” he refuses to take off is from a costume party

yeah it’s like that but instead of throwing himself into being a human-capturing hero like in undertale he throws himself into being a warrior in deltarune

hence why he doesn’t like. Remove the costume in the hospital

and why we can’t visit him in deltarune since he’s busy working

[hasty sapphire]

That is

[leaden glacier]

it was a really good theory but that’s the part i remember

[hasty sapphire]

One of the theories ever

[leaden glacier]

also one of the arguments was that it would be really fucking funny to reveal papyrus like that

[hasty sapphire]

Wait

The hospital guy from ch1 is the same one that beats the dough in ch2?

And changing the sign in ch4

[leaden glacier]

AH HA I FOUND IT

[leaden glacier]

i believe so yeah

[leaden glacier]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/s/x3MavqQnfu

[hasty sapphire]

It almost makes sense

Still sounds like insanity

[leaden glacier]

i wouldn’t knock it for insanity

if someone told you you fought gerson boom in chapter 4 before it released that would sound like insanity

[hasty sapphire]

But if they're ever going to reveal Papyrus that's what I imagine they'd do

[leaden glacier]

yeah

[hasty sapphire]

Still hoping for Pizzapants name revealed to be Burgerpants

[leaden glacier]

like it does Sound crazy off the bat but it honestly makes so much sense

[leaden glacier]

HABDINDDIND

crack theory: in deltarune chapter 7 it turns out the evil ass fountain maker group chat actually just had the knight summon the titan with gerson in the dark world to train the fun gang on how to beat the titans so they could resolve the roaring /joke

[hasty sapphire]

Dess is just trying to be as good of a teacher as Gerson and kicking our ass to make us stronger

[grand raft]

susie…. you ate my father john chalk….on deltarune chapter 1

[leaden glacier]

true!

[hasty sapphire]

I'm realizing how similar Susie's conflict with Lancer in ch1 is to her upcoming conflict with Kris when it's revealed they're working with the knight

[leaden glacier]

ohhhhh. Oh that’s a fun parallel

[supple belfry]

hmmm i wonder what happened to Onion-san

i hope they show up again at least in the next chapters

[woven tulip]

because it would be

there was no evidence for this, therefore it would have been unreasonable, regardless of it coincidentally turning out to be true

[hasty sapphire]

True

You could say Gerson will have some plot relevance judging by him getting multiple mentions but that's about as far as you could do without insanity

[leaden glacier]

i mean, not really? a lot of people already were guessing church would have a dark world (mostly since double doors but there’s already kind of like. a lot of religious references in chapters 1 and 2. like the angel and prophecies and stuff). also alvin asking if it was “right for the hammer to” was awfully suspicious. why would you bring up the presumably buried dust when you think people are out of earshot? and sure, we didn’t get confirmation monster funerals worked the same in deltarune as they did in undertale until chapter 4, but given a kid asks kris if it “hurts to be made of blood” (not a normal question to ask even for little kids. they’re curious more often than not, not creepy) we could have assumed they did.
and, given we had a “proper” neo fight (at least compared to undertale) it wouldn’t exactly be out of the question that we’d get more fights we didn’t get in undertale. especially considering undertale gerson directly acknowledges you can’t fight him as a shopkeeper.
and again, the entire point of me bringing up the gerson boom fight was to not knock theories because of insanity. insanity is involved in this. that’s the point.
the puzzle was there, we had some of the pieces, it’s just nobody bothered to put them together. and yes, i’m aware i’m looking at this with hindsight. i can’t really not do that.
i’m not really a big fan of arguing, but i do think we had the evidence to say gerson will likely show up in the dark world and even enough evidence to guess we had a battle (even if it had some amount of insanity. which, again, was the whole point. that’s why it was a comparison)

anyways it is 00:51 so i really shouldn’t be arguing

so i will leave you all with this and maybe my argument falls apart at the drop of a hat or maybe it doesn’t but i don’t really care

[hasty sapphire]

We did have some puzzle pieces but to put them together into this specific picture you had to get insane

Like, Alvin digging up the hammer made me think he's going to be relevant in the church chapter, not the hammer, and assuming Gerson will get a fight because neo did is a stretch

Undyne rematch seemed more likely pre ch3-4

[leaden glacier]

okay so i’m not getting sleep so. discussion time.

(even if it had some amount of insanity. which, again, was the whole point. that’s why it was a comparison)

[leaden glacier]

i mean, fair, though i should note people were definitely theorising about a gerson dark world revival. (for example, oberon smog, which was a theory that had a gerson based darkner. (and obviously part of it was wrong, gerson isn’t the knight, but the idea is still present))
and spamton neo was more of a hindsight thing, but people were pointing out how weird gerson was in undertale years ago. that he knows you can’t fight shopkeepers. and how he seems like he was really powerful back in the day. for example, a twitter thread by the oberon smog person from 2023.

[leaden glacier]

also i feel like even in chapters 1 and 2 major undertale characters were shown to have pretty minor roles? though i suppose the argument could be made for basically any undertale character then, but i don’t think there was anything really hinting to an undyne fight other than “toriel called the police” (but she also didn’t have evidence it was any of the kids staying at the house the car was at).
though, a lot of people did think toriel was gonna be a party member, so take that with a grain of salt
also, iirc a different theory was that napstablook would end up having a bigger role than undyne since they took the night shift(? i don’t remember this in game but i remember seeing someone talk about it). not that either of those worked out, but i don’t recall anything hinting towards an undyne fight nor do i recall seeing theories about it

unsure if i’m making any sense since it’s almost 2am so i apologise if i’m not

[hasty sapphire]

Maybe it was just me then

[leaden glacier]

but tl;dr: i didn’t make up gerson fight theory pre c3/4 + the theory needing at least a little bit of insanity was why i brought it up

[hasty sapphire]

I kind of expected dark worlds reviving people, that's an obvious thing to go for with the dark worlds turning items into living creatures, but I didn't expect Gerson revival and especially fight with him, randomly stumbling upon Undyne freaking out about dark worlds and having to fight her seemed like a possibility to me

When I first met old man I wasn't even sure it's a hammer, I thought it could be one of the lord of the hammer books

[leaden glacier]

fair, though in undertale she’s noted not to attack innocent people (with the exception of frisk but uh. When your entire job is to kill humans you do kind of start killing humans)

[leaden glacier]

if it makes you feel better i did not clock it was gerson at all i just thought alvin was like. On fruit juice or something <-despite how much i like to theorise, i am sometimes incredibly slow at connections

[hasty sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[woven tulip]

yeah, you could have said gerson has some plot relevance, but gerson being in chapter 4, and having a fight is a bit too specific, and had no evidence

[hasty sapphire]

Did people even have any predictions for the church dark world secret boss

I remember many for tv world but none for the church

[leaden glacier]

i don’t think anyone did because we didn’t actually get to see inside the church until the chapter it became a dark world

like with tv world we at least saw the light world version

[hasty sapphire]

Fair

[woven tulip]

anyway, what i mean is, just because some "insane theory" would turn out to be correct doesn’t really mean anything. one of hundreds of theories will be close enough to be correct, it’s just a chance!

so it’s pretty justified to reject theories that have too much speculation , well, at least not take them too seriously

[woven tulip]

i think you kinda confuse the "puzzle", and "gerson’s fight making any sense in the story" .

it was not possible to know about gerson having a fight in chapter 4. one could have made a random guess, but it wouldn’t be more likely than anything else.

but now we have chapter 4, and it does make sense in retrospective, but it doesn’t mean it was a puzzle that’s possible to solve before

[hasty sapphire]

Toby wanting to revisit some of the undertale concepts could make Gerson fight make sense but barely

[woven tulip]

going back in time and stating a wrong, but overly specific theory

"i have an idea about the secret boss in ch4, assuming it’s the church, what could be 'discarded'? well, i think it could be halloween decorations, the secret boss will be a pumpkin monster, with broken speech (like spamton) and haunted houses as special soul mode"

[hasty sapphire]

No rain world discussion in deltarune general

[opal grotto]

A-
Where else do I put this then

[hasty sapphire]

Not sure, #spoiler-bigenderal maybe

[opal grotto]

[clear sparrow]

we'll get a cyan and orange soul modes in deltarune trust.....

[blissful ivy]

it's been like 2 month

s

im still stuck on the ||rory nite||

wait can i unspoiler that\

[woven tulip]

it’s my secret cousin, rory nite

[blissful ivy]

ok and how do i defeat your secret evil cousin

they are very evil they keep swooning ralsei

[woven tulip]

try to keep your HP above zero while attacking them

[blissful ivy]

wow

[hasty sapphire]

Use the secret Ralsei mantle strat

[woven tulip]

"HP is an acronym, it stands for horsepower" — sans in ch5

during the final battle in ch5, ralsei will get the horse costume again, doubling HP

[blissful ivy]

whats that

[hasty sapphire]

Giving mantle to Ralsei

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[blissful ivy]

okaye

[woven tulip]

sky mantle?

[hasty sapphire]

Susie can tank the hit just fine and Kris doesn't get targeted

[woven tulip]

or you can just defend with ralsei

[hasty sapphire]

Why not both

Ok maybe because defenseless Susie dies

Idk

[woven tulip]

i just defended with kris and ralsei, and had the mantle on susie, so nobody is damaged too much

[hasty sapphire]

I guess there's no other way but to learn to not take too much damage then

[woven tulip]

there isn’t really a reason to give the mantle specifically ralsei . most of the time it would be better to use items than heal spells (because you get more rude buster)

[hasty sapphire]

There is if you attack with all

Which I did

[woven tulip]

they will never make me use maximize damage instead of maximize defense strategies

[hasty sapphire]

Nohit dialogue

Or just for fun

[woven tulip]

then you don’t need the mantle nor healing spells anyway

[hasty sapphire]

You don't need healing spells in that fight in general

[clear sparrow]

healing isnt rly worth it in that fight

you need all the sp you have for rude buster

[mild hull]

if someone dies I think you should revive em, or if you have 90+tp it's def good to go for a heal prayer

[clear sparrow]

i didnt have any revive mints in that fight so i had to make sure no one ever dies lol

[finite phoenix]

the less time you take on the knight fight,
the less attacks you see,
which means you have less chances to die

also healing is worth it if it means you're preventing someone from going swoon and consuming a revive item

unless it's kris

[uneven prism]

i remember youre weird routes

[vivid verge]

castletown... chapter 2

[uneven prism]

I've realized

[vivid verge]

spreading misinformation i see...

[uneven prism]

Always

[leaden glacier]

i thought something was off there but i couldn’t remember enough to dispute it

anyways does anyone wanna see my wip darkner miniboss oc you can kill

[crimson wyvern]

[leaden glacier]

ref isn’t finished and they don’t have a name yet but. they’re based off of those marble sphere mazes

[gritty goblet]

omg

[crimson wyvern]

AWW

[gritty goblet]

gooberrrr

i love them

[crimson wyvern]

THEY'RE SO CUTE

[leaden glacier]

YAYYYYYYY THANK YOU BOTH :D

[woven tulip]

sension points

[woven tulip]

smh . you sacrifice consistency, while it can be faster, mistakes are way more impactful

[clear sparrow]

i might've overplayed limbus company 🥹

its one letter okay

i was close enough

[glass lance]

i literally started playing limbus company today and like 2 hours after i logged out i see this
am i just gonna be haunted forever now

[clear sparrow]

yea thats about how it goes

[woven tulip]

out of two letters

that’s 50%

[uneven prism]

Slugcat points actually

[grand slate]

Reposted but soiled this time

[finite phoenix]

in this interpretation

the titan bites down and explodes

[woven tulip]

when the demon heart is crying

[steep ridge]

wait forgot to spoiler

[crimson wyvern]

dw you dont need to spoiler ch 3 and 4 stuff here anymore
unless ur spoilering for a diff reason

[steep ridge]

rebarb spoilered their meme so i thought

[mild hull]

if it's spoilered you can post it anywhere on the server 🌠

[vivid verge]

Dawg we dont need to soiler here

Unless its chapter 5, 6, 7, and 48

[crimson wyvern]

gaster dies in chapter 48

[vivid verge]

YOU FORGOT TO SOILER!!!

kills you

[crimson wyvern]

:3

[elfin sun]

NOOOO

[vivid verge]

https://fixupx.com/mustardwaffle/status/1951832581692952754?t=c1CIQN1xAZ3vYBbFdOt_ng&s=19

chesquik (@mustardwaffle)

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FixupX · Aug 3, 2025, 2:28 AM

[leaden glacier]

Never try to learn lowercase wingdings ^_^

[crude gull]

gamers

is susie half human

[hasty sapphire]

I doubt it's as literal as "if you bleed you're half human" but there's definitely something up with it

[woven tulip]

gamers... is kris half human

ralsei is obviously half monster (being asriel) /j

[hasty sapphire]

He's half monster half monster

[clear sparrow]

i love how some people started trying to hate on deltarune because of that singular scene

because bwa bwa bwaa monsters shouldnt bleed toby just forgor or something

(completely forgetting this isnt undertale and monsters might work differently here)

[hasty sapphire]

Do people really think this isn't going to be a major plot point

[finite phoenix]

lancer also knows what blood is

also, the existence of blood crushers 2 as a series

which
both Susie and Noelle seem to know about

i think it is easier to say that (...relevant) monsters in deltarune just bleed
they seem to be more physical after all

also the guy who works at ice-e's mentions that their blood is boiling for battle
so, he knows what blood is too

they have hospitals
checkups
things that didn't properly exist in undertale

[leaden glacier]

yeah i think some monsters are dusty and some are bloody. like the kid who asks if it hurts to be made of blood and gerson are (probably) dusty

[sudden pilot]

Or both is an option

[finite phoenix]

monsters can just be both (with exceptions because i don't see how some monsters could ever possibly bleed)

[sudden pilot]

They can bleed, but they turn into dust when dying

[finite phoenix]

the fire elemental guy who works at QC's for example

...he probably doesn't have any blood

there's also the classic of

monsters in undertale don't know what bathrooms are (papyrus mentions them once in undertale during the visit to undyne's house)

yet in deltarune, bathrooms exist (the dreemurr house has a bathroom, as well as the holiday house. Susie also implies that there is a bathroom at school to drop bath bombs in)

[hasty sapphire]

Maybe all those places just built bathrooms for Kris

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[sudden pilot]

Canon

[finite phoenix]

also queen knows what a toilet is because she has a room for a toilet (and berdly statue)

and one of the darkners specifically asks when the next guy is going to be done in there

[hasty sapphire]

I feel like monsters know about the existence of blood mostly from fiction but they don't bleed themselves

None of the Dreemurs know how to wipe a blood stain, a kid asks you how it feels to be made of blood, Susie has one line about doctors not understanding her that could possibly mean their inexperience dealing with blood

"Everyone bleeds, right?" really sounds like a statement that's supposed to be subverted

[woven tulip]

toby just togore

[woven tulip]

napstablook bleeding after getting hit by the knight in chapter 6

[woven tulip]

but what kind of a point it has for the story?

it’s not like the prophecy says it has to be a monster, it was made up by ralsei. so why would it be important

[hasty sapphire]

The point is Susie thinking bleeding is normal while no one told her that it isn't

[broken solstice]

Just bc we didnt see the prophency mention it doesnt mean it is made by Ralsei

[hasty sapphire]

Not really significant to the prophecy, just a detail showing that Susie is special but doesn't realize that

[woven tulip]

it wouldn’t be possible to distinguish if it’s all monsters or just susie, not like we have any definitive proofs in either direction.

but there isn’t any other evidence susie isn’t a normal monster either, so it being all, or at least some of monsters, more likely

[uneven prism]

I'm wing gaster

The royal scientist

[finite phoenix]

i'm wing blaster!

the gaster blaster!

[vivid verge]

That's why I think sans deltarune is a good theory. I always thought it was stupid that people said "its just ketchup" in undertale

[grand slate]

Maybe I am glooby and never groovy!

[finite phoenix]

I mean

At the time we had literally no deltarune

and sans notably definitely has an association with ketchup

there wasn't a lot to work with i think

[vivid verge]

If it was ketchup it would've been a lot less impactful 🙄

[finite phoenix]

it's like sans to try and fuck with you a bit
disregarding deltarune and pretending we're back before it even released, it isn't out of the question to think of it that way
maybe they were hoping for a near miss rather than a literal fatal blow

[clear sparrow]

imagine gaster shows up at the end of chapter 6 and he looks like this :

[quartz spindle]

Hi chat it's me

[rapid flame]

i think monsters could have blood and also just explode into dust on death

[quartz spindle]

True maybe frisk is just so cracked they can explode the monsters with a toy knife

Especially since it seems like the human/monster power difference simply doesn't exist in deltarune

[cursive ravine]

Jockington is friend

[red hazel]

im old

[elfin sun]

im gold

[crimson wyvern]

I'm old!

[elfin sun]

im sold!

[hasty sapphire]

The place where it snew

[rapid flame]

im cold!

[weary granite]

Im bold!

[elfin sun]

Im fold!

[crimson wyvern]

I'm foretold!

[elfin sun]

I'm hold!

[leaden glacier]

wonder what the whole deal with hatsei on the save select screen is

like. it’s very much not the first time ralsei’s had his hat when he’s hatless

legend of tenna

well. i guess it kind of is the first time actually

but it’s been Consistent

and he takes off his hat before the first fountain is sealed as well so it’s not like. a Holdover or anything

and (cut content alert) he did depict himself as hatsei instead of cloaked in the manual which i find interesting

especially given the last page has the first two heroes of the legend so presumably it was already decided he was going to be cloaked in the prophecy

idk. hatsei is interesting to me

[elfin sun]

i dont think hatsei is too important

i think it was just how ralsei depicted himself

till he finally started bonding with the fun gang and accepting himself more

[leaden glacier]

i guess maybe? but it’s odd to see him depicted as such in front of a titan especially when it’s already established from the first chapter he’s gonna be hatless

also i would assume he didn’t make that board sprite, so it’s also weird to me he’s hatted there

Me when i can type /lying

[elfin sun]

i think it could have some implications on ralsei himself but not really with story

[leaden glacier]

though, the coat hanger did lose his hat so? Partly unsure how that happened because his hat is very big and presumably stands out if it falls on the ground. and also i feel like it should have sentimental value to the coat hanger ? but i digress

[elfin sun]

coat hanger is just a loser

/j

[leaden glacier]

LMAO. mean,,,,,,,,

[elfin sun]

[leaden glacier]

tl;dr on what i said: hatsei is weirdly consistent despite ralsei not having worn his hat for several chapters + seemingly intending to wear the cloak for a while initially? given he only takes it off at susie’s request and that’s how he’s depicted in the prophecy (+ menu sprite is still hatsei)

[elfin sun]

kinda confused on what you mean by hatsei being consistent if its just stuff like tennas minigame then i feel like thats more so how ralsei just views himself?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120846755056070747/1403560730665554013/petpet.gif

[leaden glacier]

do you have a source for that ? i don’t think they picked what the sprites are supposed to look like

unless you mean it’s based off the fountain in which case

i feel like that’s more evidence for how kris views ralsei ? since i don’t think darkners can influence the fountain like that

anyways with it being consistent. again tlot and the menu screen, and while it is cut content i do still think the manual should get an honorable mention

twice could be a coincidence but. it’s still Weird to me.

[elfin sun]

i think the sprites could just be based off of the prophecy for tlot but not sure why it would depict ralsei like that but..,,..,.,.

[leaden glacier]

ralsei shows up as cloaked in the prophecy

[elfin sun]

more so just a random theory..

[leaden glacier]

ahhh i see

[elfin sun]

oh your right

that is strang

still dont think it means too much but

the tired is getting to me ack

the lore of tiredness and despair

[leaden glacier]

ahhh fair, you should sleep

[leaden glacier]

oh my friend did bring up a good point on that. it’s still his menu icon.

[elfin sun]

ture...

[elfin sun]

i only woke up like 6 hours ago

dont really wanna sleep im just tired

[leaden glacier]

ahh i see yeah fair

[hasty sapphire]

I think he may be trying to defy the prophecy by losing his hat

Don't think the hat will be significant to the main plot, he's just doing this to see if he can change the prophecy at all

[elfin sun]

sorta hunter this

[leaden glacier]

we haven’t seen the full prophecy presumably right

[elfin sun]

yeah

[leaden glacier]

ah okay

[elfin sun]

we have seen a lot of it but theres def stuff still missing

[hasty sapphire]

Maybe Ralsei will get his hat back in the future chapters to show that they're still on track

[elfin sun]

i hope not

i love no hat ralsei

except for the talking sprites

[leaden glacier]

i don’t think so ? unless the coat hanger magically finds his hat again

[hasty sapphire]

Doesn't have to be from the coat hanger

[leaden glacier]

i guess

[elfin sun]

hmmm new hat gifted by fun gang that would be so cute

[leaden glacier]

ive been drawing pippinses winking on the wrong eye......

[crude gull]

knowimg all the mean thing you can do makes me feel like a good person

[hasty sapphire]

Being a bad guy can be fun

[woven tulip]

the game was made before the end of chapter 1

also the battle interface has ralsei with the hat, it didn’t change smh

[supple belfry]

https://youtu.be/l3a6T3mEjH0

damnnn

[crimson wyvern]

i cant hear the word friend the same anymore im going insane

[leaden glacier]

wb rals

[leaden glacier]

it’s like it’s taken hold inside you…

[elfin sun]

FRIENDS INSIDE ME

???!?!??!?!?

[crimson wyvern]

[crimson wyvern]

CUTE

[leaden glacier]

YAYYY

[leaden glacier]

pippinses that help you try to learn gamut masking

[leaden glacier]

you can literally put guys in places this is so fun

[crimson wyvern]

pippin :3

[elfin sun]

pippin in the road, theres a car coming, get out of the way!!!!

[leaden glacier]

i should put pippinses in more places

[elfin sun]

0-popppppb

kitten oops

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/291184728944410624/1179552718872924200/tatertot.gif

have a tatortot

[leaden glacier]

holy shit

[vivid verge]

i dunno if its appropriate here (praying it is)

[uneven prism]

It's certainly Deltarune!

[woven tulip]

my friend with heterochromia works at deltarune, and they said ch5 dark world will be entire undertale with main bosses except asgore removed.

[elfin sun]

are their eyes pink and yellow?

[woven tulip]

how do you know

[elfin sun]

i was gonna say something else but it sounds

..not right at all

thats wild

peam

[woven tulip]

zeeljod

[elfin sun]

wha

[woven tulip]

that’s evil words they use down in the rw modding

[elfin sun]

their evil spells...

[woven tulip]

"zeeljod", "ogscule", "isohog"

[elfin sun]

i know ogscule

[woven tulip]

those magic words

[elfin sun]

the evil magic words

[woven tulip]

"z... zeeljod?
i... i don't know that spell.
i'm telling you, i... i...
i don't know what you're talking about.
i'm telling you, stop!
i... i don't know what you're talking about!
...
fine. you want to see what happens so bad?
watch what happens when i cast a spell i don't know!"

[elfin sun]

LMAO

LMAKSAJKPDJS

NLKDHBSAUHOD

[supple belfry]

ogscule secret character chapter 5

[sturdy bronze]

Fight time

[woven tulip]

your taking too long

[supple belfry]

idk why but i wanna see someone recreate the rain world intro but its deltarune chapter 1

[elfin sun]

that would be pretty pluey

[storm bolt]

is the titan fight easy?

[leaden glacier]

i’d say it’s probably the hardest final boss? (excluding the knight.) i’d probably put it between spamton and jevil comparing it to other bosses but that’s just personal opinion

idk if any of that makes sense but. yeagh

[elfin sun]

i find it really easy

[storm bolt]

I just saw like 5 people call the knight easy (and say jackenstein is hard?)
am i like skilll issued

[mild hull]

I personally found Tenna harder, even with just the regular bullet patterns

[storm bolt]

why r u head of potatoes

😂

[leaden glacier]

fair, tenna was decently easy for me and i don’t think i died to him? but i did die to the titan so

[mild hull]

people calling the something like the knight easy are either speaking in bad faith or have played enough times that they consider anything they can do easily as Objectively Easy (or are joking, yea)

[elfin sun]

i died once to the titan

[storm bolt]

is the Knight hype and aura

[elfin sun]

wait no what

[opal grotto]

I died to Tenna but beat the Titan first try so

[mild hull]

have played enough times that they consider anything they can do easily as Objectively Easy is so prevalent on videogame discussion and it is such a terrible thing 🙁

[elfin sun]

i didnt die on the titan at all lmao

[elfin sun]

true

[storm bolt]

I died to the titan a lot 🙁

[mild hull]

🙁

[leaden glacier]

i think a lot of knight is easy/roaring fraud are probably just joking? like if someone called sans or undyne the undying (was that her title) easy

[elfin sun]

they are due to just the nature of the knight going into cutscenes and stuff

[mild hull]

honestly jackenstein is one of the most precise fights in the game thus far, funnily enough

[storm bolt]

Its like in this specific server I’ll say ‘gee (x) is hard’ and they’ll be like ‘no it isn’t i beat it first try I also beat every other boss first try skill issue!’

[elfin sun]

ture

i struggled on jackenstein a lot lmao

[storm bolt]

your taking 2 long 🎃

[leaden glacier]

i think i did actually find jackenstein more frustrating than the titan my first playthrough but i do think that was probably because it introduced the mechanic

[mild hull]

I first-tried jackenstein, but then on repeat playthroughs when I was trying to go extra fast I died multiple times

[elfin sun]

ive been watching shayy so much

[mild hull]

I kept using the scaredy-cat ability and taking a crap ton of damage because I couldnt move as precisely

[storm bolt]

I just think the titan is hard but apparently its easy

[elfin sun]

these damn vods are not uploading fast enough...

[elfin sun]

i mean the titan uses a completely different play style and such

[mild hull]

uhh I dunno it might be because of all of the potatoes I cooked the other day
it was a lot of potatoes

[leaden glacier]

i mean it’s not. Difficult to see why it would be hard. and if anyone gives you shit for it they’re an asshole. but i think for some people its just generally preference

[storm bolt]

dya have fries

[leaden glacier]

titan forces you to stick close to the bullets

[elfin sun]

i also beat the knight and all the secret bosses before the titan fight so im a bit nuanced lol

[storm bolt]

I’m bad at like bullet hell 😭

[leaden glacier]

which is encouraged with tp anyways but titan forces it

[opal grotto]

I mean in general any fight will be easy once you get the hang of it

[mild hull]

I suppose titan fight difficulty heavily depends on if you notice the act that gives you extra glow

it's really a game changer

[opal grotto]

The learning curve is still present in some cases tho since its a bullet hell and all and some are more or less used to bullet hells

[elfin sun]

true lmao

the titan feels so like

given to the player lol

[mild hull]

The Physical Embodiment Of The Fear Of The Dark When I have TensionBit

[elfin sun]

with the special acts and such

[leaden glacier]

also shoutout to the titan sequence as a whole. When did you start being yourself? top ten lines that fuck me up

[elfin sun]

could just be my epic gamer cool skill

[mild hull]

memoryhead-core

[elfin sun]

kalum is looping...

[leaden glacier]

if only i liked the music enough to put it on my playlist,,,,, its good songs i just don’t like it enough to listen to it outside the game

[leaden glacier]

Yes

You get it

[elfin sun]

the start of the titan sequence kinda got me ngl, the impact of that scene with susei and th eknight

[mild hull]

guardian is good but it has too much downtime of just basic rhythmic stuff to really be something I'd listen to

[leaden glacier]

they look like memoryheads vaguely. voice that sounds like crushed glass. garbage noise before you use the cell act.

yeahhhh true

[mild hull]

I put third sanctuary as my ringtone BEFORE it was cool 😤

[elfin sun]

titan scene my beloved

doesnt beat the ralsei blood scene

i cant remember what its called he

[leaden glacier]

other music wise. hammer of justice is REALLY good don’t get me wrong. but i like spear of justice better but don’t like the songs enough to put them both on

[mild hull]

could be related, catually

memoryheads are a bit of an odd-one-out in terms of the amalgamates, and they have the fetus imagery that the titanspawn have, and true lab has gaster connections and and and

[leaden glacier]

c3 and 4 had a lot of really good scenes tbh

[elfin sun]

it made me cry eelk

[leaden glacier]

i feel like we’re gonna see more amalgamate references tbh

[opal grotto]

I just have a playlist I put any ost song I like enough on there and put it on shuffle during long sessions where I need bg noise
1000+ songs of jams

[leaden glacier]

friend looking like endogeny and spawn memoryhead

[storm bolt]

All i can think of when I remember it is that image of ralsei crying saying “I’M NOT EVIL!!!” or smth

[leaden glacier]

people who have playlists with >100 songs scare me /silly

[storm bolt]

Weak…..

[elfin sun]

BUT IM ASRIEL!!! is my favorite

[mild hull]

what about listening to one song on repeat for 7 hours

[elfin sun]

i god im tired eek

need to wake up

[leaden glacier]

smh. no susie… you ate my father Johnny Chalk in chapter 1… appreciation

[opal grotto]

Me when I find a new song and need to exhaust it immediatly (its really good)

[leaden glacier]

real and true and relatable

[elfin sun]

me with birdbraim....

i do this way too often

[leaden glacier]

birdbrain is peak

birdbrain is a ralsei song to me

[elfin sun]

lol i see it

[mild hull]

weird birds marathon 🔥

[leaden glacier]

also a lot of the. reaper bird stuff reminds me of susie’s hope tbh

hold on let me get the reaper bird check dialogue

[elfin sun]

i really want to see what the amalgamates have to do with the story of deltarune

with all the references theres no way they dont have some importance

[leaden glacier]

pre spareable

This relentless bully ALWAYS gets its way.
It finally stopped worrying.
Its future looks brighter and brighter .
spareable
This relentless future finally looks brighter and brighter.

also everyman

[leaden glacier]

i’m wondering if they’re more like. parallels than the amalgamates themselves being important if that makes sense

[elfin sun]

yeah thats kinda what im thinking too

[leaden glacier]

like, that one friend doc mentioning how friend’s endogeny design could be a sort of design motif referencing how Uncertain friend is

idk me when i can’t articulate stuff (headache haver

[elfin sun]

its literally just susie 🥹

[leaden glacier]

yeah!! shoutout to reaper bird

honestly true lab is really fucking cool.

[elfin sun]

this sleepy is pissing me off
im the original yapper

[elfin sun]

ture

[leaden glacier]

me when heavily disabled people don’t have to be shut away and get to be with their loved ones. yknow

[elfin sun]

me when entry 17 or whatever

dark dark and yet darker

[leaden glacier]

i have a friend who Looooooves true lab so a lot of his knowledge has rubbed off on me

[elfin sun]

[leaden glacier]

entry no. 17 is so cool. If only it didn’t help people start thinking gaster did other true lab entries /silly

[elfin sun]

lmaop

gaster totally made all the entries i dont know what your talking about smh /j

[leaden glacier]

[elfin sun]

laugh monk is not the right emoji oop

kitten huih

kitten is with me now

[leaden glacier]

kitty,,,

[elfin sun]

kimtrn

[leaden glacier]

but yeah true lab is so fucking awesome

[elfin sun]

its honestly one of the best parts of undertale

its so well crafted

and so just

[crimson wyvern]

?plooey

[elfin sun]

done right llol

[elfin sun]

?pluey

tneor blast

[crimson wyvern]

gimmie a sec

[leaden glacier]

true,,,

[elfin sun]

i think thats spoilers D:

[crimson wyvern]

😭

i forgor

[elfin sun]

its ok

[leaden glacier]

if only it didn’t lead to people hating alphys incorrectly tbh. like Yes she should’ve absolutely spoken up about it sooner but like. otherwise she could Not have predicted allat

It’s like whatever though i’m normal when people hate my favs for the wrong things

[elfin sun]

me when a character is flawed

[leaden glacier]

true

[elfin sun]

that reminds me of the dumb toriel stuff

this mother is flawed. kill.

[leaden glacier]

oh yeah toriel got it. pretty bad from what i know

[elfin sun]

it was like because toriel wasnt like

worried about her children and was drunk

i think

[leaden glacier]

yeah i Get why

and also toriel’s tires were slashed the other night iirc

but also didn’t kris and susie make plans to go to noelle’s in front of her ? also toriel has likely been really really stressed

[elfin sun]

she made one mistake and probably assumed kris was with susie chilling she is def flawed but like..,

[leaden glacier]

so like. she Does need an opportunity to unwind

[elfin sun]

fr

[opal grotto]

Its honestly kinda funny how views turned so fast on both her and Sans
These arent the same people as from Undertale they got entirely different everyday problems now

[elfin sun]

its such a stupid thing

[elfin sun]

for real

[leaden glacier]

also i think kris normally answers calls ? and the last time they Didn’t was when they were hanging out with susie + toriel knows they do that frequently in the part couple days (though iirc narrator doesn’t mention anything about missed calls if you check kris’ phone after the dark worlds)

[elfin sun]

yeah

[leaden glacier]

idk it’s like. i do think toriel had good reason to believe kris was safe

[elfin sun]

she did

she knows kris is pretty mature and probably just hanging out

theres so much i could say about this but im not good at talking about moral stuff and things with typing while tired

text is so hard to get my message across

[leaden glacier]

ah fair

[elfin sun]

i love writing but god its so hard to get messages right

[leaden glacier]

real and true

[elfin sun]

plue even

[leaden glacier]

i do get worried someone’s gonna Completely misread what i say and/or assume the worst of me for some reason

but it’s. the price i might pay to have a discussion

[elfin sun]

i feel that all the time with being online

[leaden glacier]

and also i can generally just. Ignore it anyhow

[elfin sun]

chronic anxiety goes so hard for real for real

[leaden glacier]

true

[elfin sun]

slug baby...

these drawings are so good

[leaden glacier]

also god i love deltarune. so many of the characters are written So well.

[elfin sun]

plue!

my kitten is eeping finally

[leaden glacier]

like ralsei feels. Incredibly realistic to me. people have said toby is so scarily accurate to being a teenage lesbian it’s like he’s been one himself

[elfin sun]

she has been visibly tired for like an hour

she just like me fr fr

[leaden glacier]

ohh i’m glad she’s resting,,,

[elfin sun]

it doesss

toby is such a great writer

[leaden glacier]

true

[crimson wyvern]

🔥

[elfin sun]

i dont think ive cried from a peice of fiction this bad since oneshot

[leaden glacier]

real and true

i do think. the most i’ve cried was in isat but i have a strong feeling deltarune will come Close

[elfin sun]

isat❔

[leaden glacier]

in stars and time

[elfin sun]

ah

[leaden glacier]

has this portrait. which is me 90% of the time

[elfin sun]

yeah i need to play it ive heard its great

[leaden glacier]

It Is

do uh. Read the trigger warnings though

[elfin sun]

i cant use actual question marks help

[elfin sun]

i always do lol

[elfin sun]

kitten stole hand

[leaden glacier]

awwwwwww

such a shame

[elfin sun]

tru

[leaden glacier]

i love siffrin they’re great

[elfin sun]

the propaganda is getting to me

[leaden glacier]

This Star Will Make You Cry

[elfin sun]

[leaden glacier]

they are. Unbelievably tragic

also if you need any help with isat if you do play feel free to dm or ping me

[elfin sun]

i get money soon so

i love money yay yippiwe

[opal grotto]

Isat mention

[leaden glacier]

🐁

[leaden glacier]

ISAT MENTION INDEED

||in this moment, you are loved.|| isat spoilers kinda

[leaden glacier]

noel

[elfin sun]

noel

[leaden glacier]

shoutout to friend. got found in cat petterz and its first move was to knock points off noelle

[elfin sun]

true!

[uneven prism]

I have my way with computers... calculators want to kiss me. Laptops love me. With a flick of my wing, your computer will sing.

[vivid verge]

I want to punt her like a football

Also like y'alls parents haven't neglected yall once

(Referring to the toriel thingy)

[elfin sun]

enlighten me

[elfin sun]

evil

[vivid verge]

Idk Kris is in high school right?

[elfin sun]

yes

[vivid verge]

I mean idk if its normal to come home after a long day and see your mother drunk with a complete stranger...

Its happened to me a couple of times.

[elfin sun]

true fair

i do think that its not right to just throw toriel under the bus for it though

[vivid verge]

She obviously fucking does care for kris

Like at the end of chapter 1 where she's happy you have a friend. And like in chapter 2 when you have susie over no questions asked

I bet in chapter 5 she'll probably apologize about last night

[elfin sun]

again i can see that flaw of toriel not being in the right mind but she also loves her child a lot yeah

[elfin sun]

ture

[vivid verge]

Thon/thoaughter

Because nonbinary :3

[elfin sun]

oh oops

[vivid verge]

"HIS PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM" moment

[elfin sun]

i know i know

im so used to just

using random pronouns

even if i know

kinda was born into a world where not much inclusion and such happened so maybe thats why???

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120846755056070747/1404624257706627173/a2u369.gif

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[woven tulip]

i found tenna and titan quite easy , i think giga queen was pretty difficult (but it was so long ago )

titan is easier than tenna, though

probably because of having all the secret boss items

[hasty sapphire]

The hard part about tenna was reacting to the rapidly switching minigames at the end, the rest of the fight was an average boss difficulty

[woven tulip]

i didn’t use it 💔

if i remember correctly

[woven tulip]

it was kinda fun on replay even , to play those mini games in tenna’s fight

[woven tulip]

what if they made juice pink and yellow instead of red and yellow

[elfin sun]

then it would def be a friend inside me!

[woven tulip]

hey, that’s the juice, that’s quite friendly

[finite phoenix]

about boss difficultyyy

my first playthrough ever was after chapter 3 and 4 released

my only deaths were against John Mantle and the knight

in repeat playthroughs, i've managed to die against jevil and spamton once each

[elfin sun]

DAMN!!!!

[rapid flame]

i did not dodge a Single Fire

[leaden glacier]

oh i did die to tenna didn’t i

i still think he’s easier than the titan though

just, for me personally at least