#deltarune ch3-4 (soiler warning)

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clear sparrow
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meanwhile "w" i think is used... in the beginning of chapter 1?

weary granite
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||Right after talking with Gaster I think||

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if you stay on the chap 4 page long enough

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what.. is this..

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its getting brither

broken solstice
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Oh

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signal grail
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no

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||am i being c4 weird route noelled||

weary granite
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I cant wait for the reveal when Susie says her last name is Gaster

The community will go rabid
(Source: my dreams and a comic)

clear sparrow
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it keeps getting brighter

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what does this mean

signal grail
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||i think the theory of that page showcasing how much of the weird route takes place in each chapter makes sense||

clear sparrow
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it sends me back to the same thing

weary granite
signal grail
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broken solstice
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||Deltarune fans overanalyzing a Single Fucking Pixel and it making sense is surreal||

clear sparrow
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the link is this

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idk

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i dont think its

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different

signal grail
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the /message part isnt there normally

clear sparrow
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wait it is

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what

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yeah its

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not there

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normally

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I FOUND

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SOMETHING IN THE DARk

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E.M34

weary granite
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Yeah

clear sparrow
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M.Mp3? too?

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what

weary granite
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It plays a ||Thump echo noise||

clear sparrow
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m.mp3 is also a thump

leaden glacier
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maybe the file names like. spell out something monksilly

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mmy internet

clear sparrow
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i think it says

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meeeememe?

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something like that

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what

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they are put in line next to eachother

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theres two rows i think

weary granite
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Watch it be morse code

signal grail
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morse code? more like horse code 🐓

leaden glacier
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darn… we need eggward

alpine estuary
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this is crazy

clear sparrow
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eeeemmmeme
meeeememe
eeeeme

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three rows

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i might've missed some not sure

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this is all i got

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feels nonsensical

signal grail
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It's me 🐻

leaden glacier
clear sparrow
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but it

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has to be a message

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the link says "message"

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it'dmake sense

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btw

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ma.mp3

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is also in the link

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its hidden there.

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so yeah ma.mp3 isnt a mistake

weary granite
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Its just as big as ch2

clear sparrow
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yeah it is

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chap 3

weary granite
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Ch1 is also there

clear sparrow
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obviously

weary granite
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Super tiny

clear sparrow
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oh?

weary granite
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But its still relevant

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(Its the d.mp4 audio)

civic mason
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(chaper 3) ||im going to fight the knight 1,000,000,000 times for fun||

clear sparrow
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yea

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definitely

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so uh

clear sparrow
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the w.mp3

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d.mp3 is chap 2

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so in it's entirety its wd ma (message) h

weary granite
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Oh wait yeah

civic mason
weary granite
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Fingers clicked the wrong one

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(Phone is tiny af)

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Full image if anyone is curious

clear sparrow
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some more stuff might pop up later on or on different days idk

weary granite
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Yeah

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For now its just this, but Im really excited :D

clear sparrow
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the message is very

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uh

civic mason
clear sparrow
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exciting

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but

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it cant be morse code

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i dont think..

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the e and m files are the same sound but e is reversed ibelieve

clear sparrow
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:3

weary granite
civic mason
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where do all the

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sound files

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play in the game itself

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w is in chapter 1 starting dark world area ibelieve. d is snowgrave c2

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not sure where ma plays

weary granite
civic mason
weary granite
clear sparrow
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||i didnt ask c4 because it has a whole message behind it which isnt decrypted yet and also im not sure if e and m are ever? used? i dont see them in the music folder...||

weary granite
civic mason
clear sparrow
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i mean theres . me. but thats not really...

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what is this actually

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deltarune jelyfis chaper 6 trust

weary granite
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Oh wait

signal grail
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||its triggered by saying "me" so it would make sense||

weary granite
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||I think its when you either reveal yourself when Noelle is talking and you interject with "me" or when you continue dialogue||

clear sparrow
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interesting

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does this mean the message is

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reversed?

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wait no

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hm

civic mason
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chaper 3 soiler ||tv time tv time replaying chaper 3 tv time||

leaden glacier
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||it’s now time for our feature presentation!!||

civic mason
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chaper 3 spoer
||noo rivplead ||

civic mason
leaden glacier
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time to listen to very situational appropriate music while fighting ||the knight (the song is welcome to the green room)|| c3 secret boss

civic mason
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||black knife vs white fluff||

weary granite
civic mason
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i may or may not have accidentaly overridden my chaper 3 save

leaden glacier
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always make backups !!!

weary granite
civic mason
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is ok tho :D

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(chaper 3) ||i wuld feel bad an stupid but... more tv time!!||

civic mason
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chaper 3 spiler
||wonder if anything hapens if i copy susie||

leaden glacier
leaden glacier
signal grail
civic mason
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chaper 3 spilers

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||heard it from mr. (ant)tenna itself, tv time, gentlepeople||

leaden glacier
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||oh wow blue ribbon affects All healing||

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i mean there's no reason for it to Not but

civic mason
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chaper 3 spilers
||sip||

weary granite
leaden glacier
signal grail
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||you can drink it???||

weary granite
civic mason
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||roaring gentleperson'||

weary granite
civic mason
leaden glacier
clear sparrow
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||I THOIUGHT IT JUST HEALAS YOU AND THATS IT||

civic mason
clear sparrow
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||also i would still get lancer since that gives you a photo||

weary granite
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Oh, another fun thing @pulsar tundra and @signal grail
||You can choose not to push the Ralsei shaped block, triggering a unique sequence LOL||

leaden glacier
weary granite
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You got dis!!!

leaden glacier
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we died monksilly

civic mason
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tip: if yu hit z right before thr rude buster actualy hits the enemy's sprite, it deals extra damage

leaden glacier
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something i REALLY hate about restarting is how ||slow the sword spawn attack is initially||

signal grail
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ive tried that and it never works 😭

leaden glacier
leaden glacier
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i believe it's most notably marked by a sound cue?

weary granite
civic mason
crude gull
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at first i read fear and was expecting a block tales reference

leaden glacier
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my super special skill of moving directly towards the bullets is not very helpful right now

leaden glacier
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HELP

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yeah.

leaden glacier
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i love the ||"you feel cornered"|| flavour text when 2 people are down like. Yeah that's an accurate descriptor of my current situation

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i know that's not what it Means but still

vivid verge
civic mason
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chaper 3 spilers
||not good enough||
||theres always next board tho :D||

leaden glacier
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hmmmmmm this makes me want to go back to fighting evil sneo

vivid verge
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||why are so many people bad at the minigames?||

leaden glacier
weary granite
vivid verge
vivid verge
civic mason
weary granite
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You can still do it

vivid verge
weary granite
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Its not that bad, its very retro but it isnt hard

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||I got it first try, reminded me of some of the old games I've played||

vivid verge
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I know but God the patterns can be brutal

weary granite
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But for those who arent used to that, yeah It'd be harder lol

vivid verge
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Tbh the ||s rank rooms games|| remind me of hylics than Zelda

civic mason
leaden glacier
weary granite
vivid verge
leaden glacier
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||wait you mean you DONT want to gamble for 2 hours???||

vivid verge
weary granite
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GAMBLE GAMBLE!!!

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GAMBLE

heady fossil
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GAMBLE

leaden glacier
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here's my super amazing ||vacation memory|| from c3
i liked my old one better :c

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(my old one for reference)

civic mason
vivid verge
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What's the ||wizard dude doing in the egg route? Is it like toriels Bible or something?||

clear sparrow
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i think so?

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c4 spoiler ||same guys appear in the church||

leaden glacier
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time to refight evil sneo wish me luck (i will die horribly)

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evil sneo sucks ass .

vivid verge
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Hey if its been like 3 months can we stop spoiling text?

leaden glacier
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kris fucking with the loaded machine to get it to Work kills me

weary granite
leaden glacier
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didnt c3/4 release on june fifth

clear sparrow
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they meant 3 weeks i think

leaden glacier
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OH

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uhhhh

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ask courier

vivid verge
weary granite
clear sparrow
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i mean

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when 3 months do actually pass then yeah i guess

leaden glacier
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OH you meant. when

weary granite
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Yeah after like 1 or 2 months we'll definitely be more lax

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But for now, keep spoilin texts

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Cant let people know ||Tenna actually means Ant Tenna||

leaden glacier
clear sparrow
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the what machine

leaden glacier
vivid verge
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Just asked the almighty courier

broken solstice
leaden glacier
weary granite
vivid verge
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Chapter 1 is very hard to get back to tbh..

weary granite
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Even if super minor

broken solstice
weary granite
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I'll need to find it but its a one off

clear sparrow
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i mean theres the starting area?...

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thats where w.mp3 plays

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its not exactly snowgrave related as far as we know right now

weary granite
vivid verge
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||I wonder if the heater in berdlys room will do anything past chapter 4||

civic mason
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chaper 3 spiler ||i feel bad destroyig al the trees an kiling everything||

clear sparrow
leaden glacier
vivid verge
weary granite
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Hey yall, I've been told to make a poll :D

leaden glacier
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wahoo

woven tulip
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it’s not confirmed monknerd

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||it’s never said whether the game in ch3 is based on the prophecy||

weary granite
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Also another one

clear sparrow
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||how else would it be able to know stuff that happened||

clear sparrow
woven tulip
clear sparrow
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i think its funny that we have berdly's phone number canonically

weary granite
civic mason
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i like ||trivia||

leaden glacier
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i've gotten hit like four times rivsob

civic mason
# weary granite

||which one means i can say "mr. (ant)tenna" an "its tv time"||

vivid verge
weary granite
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The poll results will be concluded probably by tommorow or later today

civic mason
meager hatch
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Thats what I was thinking

leaden glacier
clear sparrow
weary granite
vivid verge
leaden glacier
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also i dont think you need to spoil tag c2 stuff

weary granite
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I'll make the announcement to yalls poll on the server announcement prolly (if the other snaff allow it lol, if not I'll just pin it here)

vivid verge
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Hey, Xtra here, this one was a bit of a wild one! Definitely not my usual style! Me and my mates were hanging together all day today and a few pizza slices and sodas later we started getting a little CRAZY! We wanted to make a tribute to all parts of our favourite game, or, in this case, games ;). Might've gotten a little carried away, but in my...

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Music peaked with this

mild hull
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why is lancer there

leaden glacier
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rivsob i had a good run and i died

woven tulip
leaden glacier
civic mason
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chaper 3 spoiler
||i have been farming the poor shadow person with the camera for enough time to get 1500 points||

leaden glacier
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šŸŽ‰

clear sparrow
mild hull
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||I wonder if you could throw off the round score calculator by getting like 100000 points, or if it caps how much you can get from one category||

civic mason
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amungus in the deltarune patch updates amyubdtvdsaghdhsdhjasdhjasjkd

woven tulip
civic mason
mild hull
vivid verge
clear sparrow
weary granite
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We dont really know

vivid verge
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||I forgot did it say Kris was used up or you were used up?||

weary granite
clear sparrow
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||i think it said you||

leaden glacier
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im gonna cry /sillyj

woven tulip
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i’m saying, it ||isn’t necessarily based on the prophecy, well at least not directly.||

vivid verge
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||either actual Kris will fight later, or we as the soul will fight in later chapters without kris||

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||I think Toriel will apologize about last night in chapter 5 ||

civic mason
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(chaper 3 spiler)
||atlantis rainbow bridge not appearing||

woven tulip
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i want there to be an encounter without kris or the soul monksilly. like in ch1 where susie fights lancer except there isn’t a soul, so you can’t dodge bullets with your soul either slugtroll

weary granite
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Lets not joke about that plz

vivid verge
woven tulip
vivid verge
leaden glacier
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spamton PLEASE stop throwing in free bullets

vivid verge
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Rouxl kaard is my favorite character

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I love his stupid Tumblr face and hair

leaden glacier
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56% mercy :D

woven tulip
civic mason
vivid verge
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Also great news not relating to deltarune, my girlfriend is starting hrt earlier than she thought

weary granite
woven tulip
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it’s related

civic mason
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chaper 3 spilers
||no ralsei dont ralsei no no no no||

leaden glacier
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70% HAHA FUCK YES !!! i didnt record my run last time so this is my current record percentage

vivid verge
mild hull
clear sparrow
vivid verge
leaden glacier
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i

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died

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BUT i did get ||heart on a chain your whole life|| dialogue so

clear sparrow
vivid verge
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Do i have to spoiler ||pepis||?

clear sparrow
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you cant really see the stink particles that well but

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sorta there

woven tulip
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||i forgot how i equipped the nerd thing on ralsei first time šŸ’”||

leaden glacier
civic mason
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chaper 3 spiler
:>

clear sparrow
vivid verge
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Can I talk about the Spamton sweepstakes but not like the stuff on website, just the livestream?

woven tulip
weary granite
vivid verge
clear sparrow
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apparently all the website stuff is old lol

woven tulip
vivid verge
woven tulip
leaden glacier
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unlles

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wait (i am Not smart

weary granite
leaden glacier
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no i

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hm

leaden glacier
vivid verge
weary granite
civic mason
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chaper 3 spilers
||if i take a picture of the dice people in chaper 3 they become dice||
||how come ralsei doesn become what he is||

woven tulip
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it’s funny because toby fox referenced first secret boss in the game description

weary granite
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And we talk about weird route a lot

leaden glacier
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i cant believe we gotta spoil tag something 4 years old saintpensive /silly

civic mason
vivid verge
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Hardest boss in deltarune

woven tulip
weary granite
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Ok, gonna go home from work now

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Have a good one yall!

vivid verge
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Don't get into a car accident!

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Don't get Bergentrucked

woven tulip
weary granite
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Dont need to become Asgore myself

vivid verge
woven tulip
civic mason
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chaper 3 spiler
||i got s-rank on board 2!! i had a 139 streak on the guitar game an got an s an then got a t-rank on points an got an a rank on the fights i got s rank yipi||

leaden glacier
# weary granite

oh btw are track names in the same category as character names monkcurious

weary granite
leaden glacier
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monkdevious i have a sixth sense for time /LYING BIG TIME

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also spearwrite

oak snow
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I can’t wait for Toby to reveal that Lancer was the Knight in chapter 7

vivid verge
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literally guys i mean like literally

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i love my friends they send me great shit

signal grail
woven tulip
civic mason
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chaper 3 spilers

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||harder than the scarey knight||

leaden glacier
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||isn’t sparing the watercooler more effective than individual actions for rals and susie||

woven tulip
# woven tulip ||it’s not the same videogame||

||dragon blazers is turn based rpg, not action rpg. it also has a pacifist route, potions, and completely different characters. the only similarity is the ice palace. otherwise "mantle" shares nothing with dragon blazers.||

civic mason
leaden glacier
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true !

woven tulip
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also dragon blazers is a thing since ch2 hunterknowing

civic mason
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||yumy vitiligo safe mercy points delicius||

civic mason
leaden glacier
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there’s a save point huntershruggy

civic mason
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but they in pain rivplead

leaden glacier
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they’ll be okay

civic mason
leaden glacier
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why wouldn’t they be?

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i miss ||tenna|| c3

civic mason
leaden glacier
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but they’ll be okay soon if they aren’t already

civic mason
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o ok :>

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(chaper 3 spilers)
i was talking with my frend (not the new one) an talked a little abt ||tenna|| an they caled me weird

leaden glacier
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guh

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like in a negative way?

civic mason
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chaper 3 spilers
||no no no no noooo rivplead ||

civic mason
leaden glacier
# civic mason ye

that’s !!! a very glooby thing to say to you!!!! i’m sorry!!!!

leaden glacier
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sympathy

civic mason
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o ok
sory

leaden glacier
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you have nothing to apologise for

civic mason
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o ok

civic mason
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wait i just realzied
||i don have enough points an didn buy toxic axe im so stupid||

civic mason
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||weird spotted jelyfish vs. the roaring knight but the weird spotted jelyfish already won twice||

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||i win :>||

hasty sapphire
# weary granite Full image if anyone is curious

||I find it weird that ch3 being just a hint to werid route has the same significance as the chapter that starts it and ch4 presumably being a point of no return is the least significant so far||

crude gull
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||what if black text means something else||

civic mason
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chaper 3 spilers
||i need more TV time i need an actual mr (ant)tennas TV time||

leaden glacier
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REAL AND TRUE.

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i think he’s got a pin in the new merch though ^_^

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god i miss him.

civic mason
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chaper 3
||im gonan cave||
||im gonan learn model clothes an make mr. (ant)tenna model in blender||

hasty sapphire
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I'm happy he's happy

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Even if I never see him again

civic mason
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||https://youtu.be/ZZOwMWi-8Xg?si=v2DUMUNbZ2NBUBo9||
chaper 3 spoilers
(I hope this actualy spoils an I don look dum)

Mr. Antenna's character introduction

  • MIKE, PLAY THE VHS!!!

Lyrics:
It's now time for our feature presentation
Feacher
Coming straight from your house
Coming straight from YOUR house (Coming)
He's the One (Coming)
THE KING OF ONLY
He's GROOVY and NEVER glooby!
You can't get this from an EGG!
The sensation of your screen
The show that makes you...

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yipi

leaden glacier
# leaden glacier good luck <:watchersalute:1294776973301780490>

https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/deltarune/sheet/273063/ here’s his sprites if you need a reference ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||​_​_​_​_​_​_ @civic mason

leaden glacier
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^_^ !!

weary granite
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I always love when devs give assets, makes fan creations even more great :D

grand slate
leaden glacier
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okay time to not save in case i wanna refight him

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gonna refight the c3 secret boss

leaden glacier
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beat it twice in like 20 minutes slugfab

leaden glacier
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getting consistent at beating them

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i was not. i died

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but i did beat them like 4 or 5 times in an hour ish so

signal grail
leaden glacier
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HAVIDBEIDB

left sage
clear sparrow
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deltarune nerds on that game /pos

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i just joined a server and theres like ||4 tennas 2 ralseis 1 lancer 1 kris 1 noelle literally everyone is here monkwail ||

grand slate
alpine estuary
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chapter 4 weird route spoilers ||that doesn't really make sense to me because what we did to noelle in chapter 4's weird route seems incredibly relevant to weird route||

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||and the fact that it plays the full version of the weird route jingle when you put the thorn on her finger cements that to me. that plus noelle now knowing that there's an entity inside kris... there's no way that's not hella relevant to weird route, right?||

hasty sapphire
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||Maybe numbers size represents the amount of weird route exclusive content ||

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||In ch4 it's basically just one scene, rest of the chapter plays out the same||

broken solstice
hasty sapphire
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Those are mostly minor

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||Other than the ending||

crimson wyvern
weary granite
# alpine estuary chapter 4 weird route spoilers ||that doesn't really make sense to me because wh...

Its not relevance to the weird route, its how much of the chapter is dedicated to it

||Chapter 4's weird route is very relevant, but overall most of the chapter doesnt involve it

Chapter 2 half of the chapter can be the weird route

For chapter 3, the entire secret boss and mini game sections is showing the player the existence of the weird route, it is also hidden since it technically isnt the weird route, but its meant to show you it

Chapter 4 had the cutscene and more minor moments, but past that the amount of weird things was less, however, this does not mean it was insignificant, I do agree that it holds the most amount of importance, its just that it isnt prevalent in chapter 4 as it was in 2 or 3||

quartz spindle
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Just woke up from a deltarune dream

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So basically I was Kris and I was with Susie, but the soul thing worked a bit different.

||We played a game in the dark world like in chapter 3, but how the SOUL worked instead made me (Kris) and Susie (with her monster Soul) start to possess the characters in game. Kinda trending in the idea of another of fiction inside of fiction. Susie was pretty freked out by starting to feel/see through the eyes of the game character as we kept playing||

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||We were trying to rescue power stars from these deep dark worlds to stop a collapse of some kind. Along the way we found someone who was trapped in the game (tho not like us, they were physically there instead of possessing an avatar)||

||At one point we started playing like a 2 player undertale which also freaked Susie out because of it's parallels to the goings on in Deltarune||

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Pretty fun 10/10 would dream again

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I could answer more details but at this point I don't know what is fabricated and what I actually dreamt

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Thought making up more details also sounds fun

quartz spindle
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The lost person wasn't Wing Gaster or December Holiday it was just a random dude

barren coyote
weary granite
weary granite
#

I forgor to pin the polls D:

mild hull
# weary granite

on this point, I think itd be weird to try to make a spoiler rule system for a non-rainworld game here

#

my proposal is

allow non-spoilered everything here now, but it has to be spoiled elsewhere for now

weary granite
#

Its mostly just for the people here, and it was a concern by a few so hey, may as well

#

And the deltarune thread is active still huntershrug

hasty sapphire
#

For future big releases can we maybe have two separate threads, one with spoilers and one spoiler free

civic mason
# grand slate

||coming straight from your house, coming straight from your house [coming!]||

woven tulip
weary granite
#

Goddamn it, didnt soiler image

#

@alpine estuary I love this interaction with Ralsie and the gang ||Ralsei is super scared we may have full control of Susie now!

The implications are horrifying... slugempty||

tame glen
#

A lot of people seem to have Deltarune-related dreams, to the point that even Deltarune itself started as one

quartz spindle
civic mason
#

idk if this is chaper 3 or 4 spiler but:
||seven-four||

leaden glacier
#

might i ask for additional context

civic mason
heady fossil
#

The time signature?

#

Like...
7
4

#

?

civic mason
#

idk is just called 7 4
sory

heady fossil
#

It's finemonksilly

civic mason
#

im gonan modelm ralsei

#

i forgot idk how to make clothes so i cant

mild hull
blissful ivy
#

uh

#

||fighting wont ruin my pacifist save right?||

leaden glacier
#

||i don’t think you’d want to recruit that guy either way, but no, it’s mandatory||

mild hull
#

one of the whole things with C1 was that sometimes fighting is ok šŸ™‚

leaden glacier
#

true !

mild hull
#

honestly the recruit system is a tad harsh

broken solstice
weary granite
# weary granite
poll_question_text

When do you believe we should allow Unspoiled ch3 and 4 talk?

victor_answer_votes

8

total_votes

13

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

Now

broken solstice
weary granite
# weary granite
poll_question_text

Choose which ones do you believe should be allowed to be discussed unspoiled? (Multiple Answers)

victor_answer_votes

10

total_votes

39

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

Trivia (ie ch2 tea equivalent)

meager hatch
woven tulip
quartz spindle
woven tulip
weary granite
#

Hey yall! We will be laxing the spoiler requirements for the discussion of Deltarune Chapter 3 and 4 content as of now!

What does this extend too?

  • Character Names will be allowed, with the exception of secret and weird route bosses
  • Minor plot points and trivia such as things like minor npc discussions and trivia such as the Pipis in ch3 or Susie being a slightly different shade of pink are allowed :D

Things you have to spoiler tag -

  • Secret bosses must be tagged. This only applies to ch3 and 4 secret bosses, please spoiler tag them, this does NOT include ||The knight, instead this applies to the Mantle minigames||)
    -Weird Route also has to be spoiler tagged. This applies to ch2, 3, and 4 as well since people show up here doing weird route after discussing ch3 and 4

I am still personally on the fence on Major plot points, its hard to distinguish. For now spoiler tag them, but it'll be definitive later today or tommorow

civic mason
#

tenna tv time

weary granite
#

Mike is fine

#

If your talking about ||The boss fight, then yes its a secret boss||

quartz spindle
weary granite
#

No

quartz spindle
signal grail
#

kris, i remember you're TV time

quartz spindle
#

Gaster, I remember you're DELTARUNEs

leaden glacier
#

finally i can say it…. unspoiled….
I MISS TENNAAAAAA rivsob

quartz spindle
#

I did like tenna alot.
I was never a big spamton guy (I thought he was kinda annoyingly odd) and to me Tenna pulled off the kinda "wacky" idea way better

uneven prism
#

Delteroon

leaden glacier
#

can’t relate i was so fucking insane about spamton pre c3 /silly

#

he’s still in my top 5 i think

signal grail
#

spamton is the [#1RatedHomie1997]

leaden glacier
#

probably would go like.

  1. tenna
    2 or 3. ralsei or spamton
  2. uhhhhhhh susie ? mostly by proxy
  3. kris
quartz spindle
#

Think my top 5 non fun gang characters
Queen
Tenna
Lancer
Starwalker
Roulx

uneven prism
#

My top 5 is maybe
Starwalker
Starwalker
Lancer
Starwalker
Lancer

civic mason
#

say it with him folks
mr (ant)tenna's tv time!!!

leaden glacier
#

ITS !! TEE !! VEE !! TIME !!!!!!

#

god i love tenna.

civic mason
#

chaper 10 wil have tenna reappear bc the darkworld wil be in metaton house

leaden glacier
#

YAY ^_^ !!

uneven prism
#

Deltarune

quartz spindle
#

Asgore nooo

signal grail
#

whats with the undertale/deltarune fans cant read thing

quartz spindle
leaden glacier
woven tulip
uneven prism
#

Rain world fans CAN read

woven tulip
crimson wyvern
civic mason
#

wait if tenna is unspoiled that means

#

i don need to spoil that i think !!

left sage
leaden glacier
# civic mason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZOwMWi-8Xg

it’s now time for our feature presentation! feacher. coming straight from your house! coming straight from YOUR house! (coming!) he’s the one! (coming!) the king of only! he’s groovy, and never glooby! you can’t get this from an egg! the sensation of your screen, the show that makes you scream.. say it with him, folks!

left sage
#

mr. (ant)tennas t-v time!!!!!!!!!!

leaden glacier
#

GROOVY !!!!!

#

you Miiiight wanna put a slight flash warning on that though for future reference

#

it’s mild but it Exists

civic mason
#

o ok

#

sory

leaden glacier
#

you’re all good!

signal grail
#

not specifically this games fandom

leaden glacier
#

honestly i think i’ve seen the worst of it in the utdr fandom huntershruggy rain world is a good contender though saintpensive

#

i think it’s probably because it’s just. Such a big fandom that there’s far more of this brand of takes than a lot of other fandoms

hasty sapphire
#

He lied to us

civic mason
#

but he's never glooby... rivflabbergasted

weary granite
# signal grail whats with the undertale/deltarune fans cant read thing

Im a deltarune fan

I go by a 1st grade reading level

I am above average
(The meme is that the fandom does not have that much media literacy, but this comes with the package of a large fandom, who all see and view information differently from each other and the community is not as tight packed so opinions are more varied)

red hazel
weary granite
#

Wild theories are the most fun lol

No evidence? I dont care!

hasty sapphire
weary granite
quartz spindle
hasty sapphire
#

Nothing wrong with believing in it pre ch3-4 but now it's just ridiculous

quartz spindle
#

Tbh i still think Kris opened the chapter 2 dark fountain but that's mainly because I hate the idea that someone like snuck into the library while berdly and Noelle were there and made it. Guess it could have been whoever else just that it was made the night before.

#

Idk what to make of the ||church closet||, tbh i think it's just an addition mainly after toby saw people go crazy over the computer lab one (while making sense)

Or who knows maybe Papyrus is in there

hasty sapphire
#

Well I don't think computer lab closet was put there and given this specific description for no reason

#

Not that I believe ch2 fountain being made after Noelle and Berdly arrive there

#

Though maybe it could make sense if the fountain was created in the closet and then they just opened the door

quartz spindle
#

Yeah was probably used at some point, not sure why exactly or for what.
Maybe someone camped out the night before to stay and open the dark fountain after the library closed?

#

someone like Papyrus

hasty sapphire
#

Nah Papyrus is clearly the egg man

quartz spindle
#

I think right now though the knight is either
||Carol, Dess, or some weird abstract 3rd option||

#

3rd option would be a similar deal to IMAGE_FRIEND
I think FREIND isn't a specific entity and more a representation of how the darkness can manifest as fear or something.

#

FRIEND as we see it seems much more like a motif and less like a character

hasty sapphire
#

Yeah

#

Friend is kind of becoming deltarune's own Gaster

quartz spindle
#

It is really strange it has the gaster naming scheme.

hasty sapphire
#

Something people personify way too much rather than looking at what it might represent

quartz spindle
#

Yeah, though now we have a lot more gaster personalization. Especially if you count the takeover tweets as canon.

Also like gaster is lit af and friend is just some creepy pasta level smile that doesn't even have its own fun event equivalent

#

Who knows, maybe FRIEND is teasing for nutdealer, the real game Toby dreamed of in 2007 half a decade before deltarune.

hasty sapphire
#

Tbh Gaster was a creepypasta until deltarune

#

This means friend character development in nutdealer

quartz spindle
hasty sapphire
#

Good old times of Sans is Ness

quartz spindle
hasty sapphire
#

Which still makes more sense than three people on his photo being Kris, Susie and Sans

quartz spindle
#

I have 0 clue what to make of Sands Undertale anymore.

It makes sense yea, but for obvious reasons I'm also pretty suspect of claims he's from another universe SansIsNess

hasty sapphire
#

I think Sans undertale is Sans deltarune theory is plausible but I don't like how people are using that to make Sans a significant character in deltarune's main plot

#

I really doubt it will go much further than Sans just making Asgore jealous

#

Or whatever Asgore will feel about it

quartz spindle
#

Actually took the words out of my mouth.

Deltarune seems to be making it pretty clear that the characters we saw alot of in UT are much less important in Deltarune

#

And I think that's probably for the best. Would be kinda strange to have 2 version of the same character and would kinda feel cheap from a storytelling perspective cause alot of character would just be copy paste from undertale

hasty sapphire
#

It's still nice to see other sides of familiar characters we didn't get to see in undertale

#

But yeah, I'd rather story not focus on them too much

quartz spindle
#

I think ||Gerson|| is a great example of a character given a very small role (people kinda overhype him retrospectively) UT and given a big role in deltarune

#

I mean i still think some people overhype him, specifically what he knows.

I've seen people claim he knew of the existence of dark worlds. To me it seems much more that he's really wise, and can get a good read on what is going on...

hasty sapphire
#

I mean that's not an unreasonable claim given he's very familiar with the prophecy

civic mason
hasty sapphire
#

I think knight is ||titanified Dess||

quartz spindle
meager hatch
#

||yeah im pretty sure knight is dess as well||

quartz spindle
#

Obviously Kris and Susie know of dark worlds.
Birdly and Noelle know of dark worlds but don't know they are real
||Undyne|| is now familiar with them but can't really do much about it
||Carol|| is the only one I could reasonably see as knowing enough to open one, assuming they are ||on the other side of the phone||
||Asgore may also have seen one, but seems to still be investigating what the hell he saw||

#

Oh and gaster knows of them :)

hasty sapphire
#

I used to think ||the mysterious caller is Carol|| but now I'm not too sure

quartz spindle
#

Thought I also have 0 clue on what the hell is up with ||Carol|| because if she is working with Kris what would be her deal

#

||Cause her only motive we really got would be to find dess. But then via Kris' alliance Dess and Carol are like on the same team and in cahoots.||

#

||Tbh it's probably just the like corrupted shadow Dess on the phone||

hasty sapphire
#

That's my guess for now

#

I still find it very suspicious that ||knight needs Toriel to stay asleep in the dark world||

quartz spindle
#

Also can't deny that ||Carol = Knight is a possibility. Though it's way more lame then a titanfied dess||

quartz spindle
#

My crackpot theory tldr: ||Possession. Like the player whatever the "knight" is only exists through some abstraction.||

hasty sapphire
#

||Toriel swoon|| theory is real

quartz spindle
#

Which one is that

hasty sapphire
#

The one I just made up

quartz spindle
#

Oh lmao

#

That toriel ||did the slash||

#

Seems legit

hasty sapphire
#

Yeah

#

||They come from behind and Toriel is having a nightmare after that||

#

Still doesn't explain the knockback direction

#

That scene never makes a complete sense

quartz spindle
#

Okay another thing.
I'm still not entirely convinced this prophecy is like, set in stone and that it isn't just wrong.
||To clarify "Susie changing fate" explanations ive seen are equal to the prophecy was wrong to me||

#

Except that jockington will grow the beard

#

That will happen, toby spoiled us

hasty sapphire
#

Not a big fan of "heroes defy the fate" trope so I hope the prophecy is getting fulfilled no matter what

#

You could still have Susie write the aftermath

quartz spindle
#

I'm very unsure to believe the one ending thing...
Because if it's true, if DELTARUNE has one ending we already know it and can see it in game.
The world will be covered in darkness by the roaring.

hasty sapphire
#

Isn't it the events before the ending

quartz spindle
#

Kind of.
That's what happens when you give up, and it isn't implied the roaring is stopped in any way.

#

Maybe the prophecy was never finished and the ending is fake. That's an idea I was museing on

hasty sapphire
#

||Tbh the final prophecy is worded the way that doesn't state any specific events will happen, it just tells what has to be done to save the worlds||

#

Maybe that's important

quartz spindle
#

Question is if said thing will be done

hasty sapphire
#

Still hoping for one ending just because making multiple after pushing the one ending narrative for so long will feel eh

#

At most several variations of the same ending

quartz spindle
#

Same.
I think there's something more important than the end we will find.
||a cool idea I've thought of is that in some way we act as a vessel to let these characters escape. We talk about them, write about them, think about them. In some way give them life and make them real. The world of deltarune will come to an end, but the goal of our interference was to have these characters latch onto us for safety||

#

||Some decent evidence of this too. Like raise up your bat referring to you heart as an ark||

hasty sapphire
#

That does fulfill Susie's wish in a way

quartz spindle
#

I think it can be a really neat way to tie us into the story. One of the few things you can say about the player through the 4th wall and have it actually work and change something in the real world

quartz spindle
hasty sapphire
#

Wish more people interpreted deltarune's theme as general fiction rather than cling to the idea of escapism

quartz spindle
#

Well escapism is something alot of people relate to these days...

hasty sapphire
#

It's a more relatable but a more limiting interpretation

quartz spindle
#

True.
Escapism is still a big part of the theming tho

hasty sapphire
#

It is

#

Just, not everything has to be about it

#

That's a general thing of deltarune community trying to fit everything into one pattern

woven tulip
quartz spindle
#

I've never played oneshot

#

They stole my idea and traveled back in time

hasty sapphire
#

Isn't one shot more similar to undertale

#

In a ||"stop playing to leave characters live the happy ending"|| sense

#

Idk what second one shot playthrough is about

quartz spindle
#

Do you think friend inside me was actually on to something?
I'm very suprised toby kinda doubled down on it in chapter 3...

#

||Like if it was a silly as implied by mike why have board 3 quizes mention asgore's favorite cowboy puppet show that was canceled||

hasty sapphire
#

It's made fun of in ||Mike minigames|| so it's as good as deconfirmed imo

quartz spindle
#

||I'd 100% agree if it wasn't for those board 3 quizes...||

#

Still don't think it's much but there's not a 0% chance of it being something

hasty sapphire
quartz spindle
#

Unused content is very odd.
Cause what about Unused, or the placeholder pomes.

I've been of the opinion that toby is smart enough to include what he wants in the game files and he knows people will tear through them, so I'm not prone to just dismissing unused content (especially if it's in such a complete state)

hasty sapphire
#

I feel like most of the unused content is included just so fans can have fun with it

#

Most of it doesn't hold any deep meaning anyway

quartz spindle
#

If it was included as a complete joke the quizes would be just, kinda bad taste? At least to me. Almost purposely throwing people off the tracks for your own amusement...

hasty sapphire
#

I don't see it as a joke, just a previous iteration of the story that was left out

#

The content he's already put effort into that felt bad to cut out completely so he lets people who are really invested experience it

quartz spindle
#

Okay different topic.
This one goes on the (very big) wall of
"WTF is that and what the hell could it mean"

hasty sapphire
#

That fight has interesting flavor text in general

#

||I think it might be referring to Kris being their own person rather than just a vessel for the soul? Then does it imply this behavior is not normal?||

#

Waiting for theorists to overanalyze the shit out of this

quartz spindle
#

||That would imply alot... mainly that Kris has been a vessel for a long time||

leaden glacier
#

||why??? do these guys almost remind me of memoryheads for like literally no reason???? like there’s Nothing to suggest they’re similar besides like. I guess fetal-ish position if you can argue that for memhead ???||

#

i think i’m just tired

heady fossil
#

No, I see it too

hasty sapphire
#

Well both are supposed to be creepy

heady fossil
#

They remind me of that as well

quartz spindle
#

I'd be down for more amalgamation callbacks.
||Especially memhead. Memory head is weird... what was it even an almalgam of||

leaden glacier
#

monksilly i shrimpose i’m not as crazy as i thought

#

i Should go to sleep though it’s like nearly 1am though whoops

#

goodnight deltachat

quartz spindle
#

Goodnight definitely ralsie

hasty sapphire
#

We've all heard about memory head but how about... ||head||

quartz spindle
#

True

signal grail
#

that part of the game was so clevr

quartz spindle
#

||ROOTS||

hasty sapphire
#

Unrelated, but
Does anyone know if the game has a clean version of this Ralsei sprite?

signal grail
hasty sapphire
#

Looked in the online sprite sheet but couldn't find it there

quartz spindle
#

Idk a story where the world is gonna end is cool to me

hasty sapphire
#

There are ways to make it cool at least

woven tulip
hasty sapphire
#

Nah you got it wrong, ||pipis are clearly titanspawn||

quartz spindle
#

Well it was nice bouncing ideas off of you @hasty sapphire ima head to sleep.
Deltarune tomorrow i believe

crimson wyvern
hasty sapphire
#

||Spamton knight is real||

signal grail
#

spamton is knight,hes spamming a ton of fountains!

hasty sapphire
#

What if pipis are the secret to being a big shot

rapid flame
#

||well we know of two forests. the one surrounding town and the one in the first dark world. "would grow" seems like it's referring to a forest that wasn't there yet, so it's probably the first one? otherwise im stumped. tree pun||

#

ANOTHER ONR?!? HDHFFJCjdhei

hasty sapphire
#

Wonder if we'll ever get to see the area behind the police tape

#

Maybe a forest would grow there and we could get lost in it

#

Maybe there would even be some sort of roots

rapid flame
cursive ravine
crimson wyvern
grand raft
#
  • Hey Noelle check out my new cut.
quartz spindle
meager hatch
crimson wyvern
#

||WAS THAT THE BITE OF CHAPTER 4?!||

crude gull
leaden glacier
#

what’s that monkconfused

crude gull
#

kirby boss

leaden glacier
#

oh

civic mason
#

||Kirby an the forgotten land in the deltarune thread?!||

cursive ravine
quartz spindle
#

The king's chariot cannot be stopped

leaden glacier
#

i miss tennaaaa

civic mason
#

__ten__na
elevenna rivflabbergasted

leaden glacier
#

twelvena…

#

one thousand nine hundred ninety-sevenna

civic mason
#

thirteenna rivflabbergasted

#

||one thousand two hundred twenty-fivenna|| (chaper 3 lor spiler)

leaden glacier
#

how merry,,,,

uneven prism
#

I'm old!

civic mason
#

||wen i put 1225 in i wasn expecting it to work bc it was my birthday but it worked rivplead ||

leaden glacier
#

oh shoot your birthday is ||christmas||??

leaden glacier
leaden glacier
woven tulip
quartz spindle
#

||Human, i remember you're DECEMBER HOLIDAYS||

weary granite
quartz spindle
#

*You're

weary granite
quartz spindle
#

Cause that's the joke is that's it's a typo

weary granite
#

Oh I was making a joke on Carol lol

vivid verge
vivid verge
# civic mason ye

I hope you get tons of gifts since you don't have a separate birthday day

vivid verge
civic mason
weary granite
vivid verge
#

Also what if it turns out the whole joke about asgore running over dess is true so we have to fucking spoiler every single meme next year

#

That would be funny

weary granite
vivid verge
#

Truth

weary granite
vivid verge
uneven prism
vivid verge
crude gull
#

i didnt need to see this

crimson wyvern
hasty sapphire
clear sparrow
signal grail
hasty sapphire
#

It is

woven tulip
signal grail
#

holy shit lmao

clear sparrow
#

why is among us canon in deltarune...

#

i hate it.....

lofty elm
grand slate
heady fossil
#

TENNA NOOOOOOmonkdesperation

meager hatch
#

NOOOO

grand slate
#

Who will host Mr Antennas T.V timeā„¢ļø now? rivboowomp

leaden glacier
#

unfortunately mr. (ant) tenna’s marvellous mystery board has been KILLED.

#

the fun-o-meter is at an all time LOW.

grand slate
leaden glacier
#

saintpensive i don’t know….…

meager hatch
#

||Mysteriously knight-shaped silhouette in the background||

tame glen
leaden glacier
#

||road-shaped deer|| monksilly

leaden glacier
#

i miss spamton

tame glen
leaden glacier
#

i’m aware of the Eventā„¢ dw

woven tulip
leaden glacier
#

we don’t have enough on him for him to make me ill </3

leaden glacier
#

i think track names are fine to be unspoiled now; see pins

crimson wyvern
#

oki :3

leaden glacier
#

actually a Lot of stuff is fine to be unspoiled

leaden glacier
#

fresh from the juice fresh from the juice make sure you don’t get it on your shoese

woven tulip
#

track names have spoilers, though usually not very direct

leaden glacier
#

fair

#

hmm, looking at the pins + answer to my questions about track + character names being in the same category (yes). i’d guess it’s mostly the non spoilery ones ?

#

like, ||glaceir|| (c3 secret boss) would Easily be a spoiler but not like. dark place probably

signal grail
#

does anyone know the point of the typo in that track

leaden glacier
#

%Yes

#

HI

#

yes

signal grail
#

%Yes

leaden glacier
#

spamton sweepstakes my beloved <3

leaden glacier
signal grail
#

it seems like a random typo like librarby or genorisity

leaden glacier
#

yeagh i shrimpose. it is Inchresting though

signal grail
#

also ||more evidence the backstage game is dragon blazers šŸ™||

leaden glacier
#

waow…

civic mason
signal grail
#

like if youre glooby against the whole world

uneven prism
#

Love wins

grand slate
#

||THE KINGS CHARIOT CANNOT BE STOPPED šŸ—£ļø šŸ—£ļø šŸ—£ļø šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ¦ā€šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„ ||

#

||Deltarune chapter 37 leak|| (Not clickbait) (Real) (Gone wrong)

hasty sapphire
#

Spent half an hour grinding lighteners live to see if Susie gets any better at it

#

Unfortunately she does not

civic mason
#

bored so I made a tenna signature bc wy not

#

the a with the line from the V makes a cursive t an the v has a line which makes a t

signal grail
#

nice design

signal grail
leaden glacier
#

i’m so cool

#

is that a spoiler. i don’t think so

hasty sapphire
#

Is that spamton's friend

leaden glacier
#

that is image_friend

woven tulip
simple ore
#

Does anybody want to DM me to see Kris dance for no reason?

#

Lol.

simple ore
#

Fire šŸ”„

signal grail
#

i just had the thought deltarune might have a final boss as unsettling as omega flowey

simple ore
#

Frisk meets Kris 😰

woven tulip
simple ore
#

Then Chara has to deal with both of them.

#

I can't tell.

simple ore
#

No... Mom 😰

#

I mean, hear me out.

#

She literally forces you your name.

#

She is literally unfightable

#

She gave you determination 😱

#

I sound so stupid rn.

simple ore
#

He comes back to get revenge.

woven tulip
simple ore
#

He was still in deltarune.

#

Just remember, the weakest become the strongest.

#

He could make a comeback.

woven tulip
simple ore
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Who is this organikk guy?

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What is organikk?

leaden glacier
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have you played deltarune chapter 4?

simple ore
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Imma DM you a vid of Kris dancing if that alr.

leaden glacier
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please don’t

simple ore
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No I meant refr

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I just don't wanna ping

leaden glacier
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ah

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i mean. if you’re asking for permission to do something you should ping

simple ore
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People just get pissed when I ping

leaden glacier
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a ping carries less weight than a dm typically

simple ore
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Yeah, but I'll just wait for him to answer.

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!level

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Oh

leaden glacier
simple ore
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Guess I'm not in an Undertale chat

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So Im not Chara šŸ’€

leaden glacier
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!level just doesn’t work in offtopic huntershruggy

simple ore
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I didn't know that monksilly

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I was trying to make a joke. Guess I'm not funny.

leaden glacier
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ah

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sorry i’m. very tired and not particularly likely to pick up on jokes

simple ore
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It's alright man.

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Ur friends with Jachii?

leaden glacier
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mhm!

simple ore
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Same.

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Can't remember talking to him recently at all...

leaden glacier
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if you were on good terms when you last talked i doubt he’d mind you saying hi if you wanted to

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if you were on bad terms uhhhhhhh idk like. apologise monksilly

grand slate
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Am I the only unfortunate victim who has contracted the deltarune brainrot

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I literally giggle so hard at those stupid asgore truck gifs that people get concerned

leaden glacier
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unsure if i’ve got brainrot but i am in decently deep

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trying to figure out a friend design

hasty sapphire
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There was a really cool ASCII friend design made shortly before new chapters

leaden glacier
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ooh

hasty sapphire
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No real fight, you and Susie just have no choice but to beat him up

signal grail
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😭

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ralsei is a pile of dust on the floor

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or something

clear sparrow
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cant wait for the plottwist that kris has been carrying the knight around in their pocket the whole time

signal grail
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the knight is the dark part of kris' pocket

hasty sapphire
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I wonder what ice-e suit would be in the dark world

signal grail
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how accurate do we think this is

broken solstice
crimson wyvern
dapper shoal
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Thing

hasty sapphire
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Evil bear fridge

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A large person could fit inside

hardy marsh
leaden glacier
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don’t translate the wingdings. just Don’t.

crimson wyvern
leaden glacier
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do you Want to know

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yes

leaden glacier
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cause i don’t think you do

crimson wyvern
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curiosity slugclose

leaden glacier
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wingdings is ||NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP||.

crimson wyvern
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hunterbaffled hunterbaffled hunterbaffled hunterbaffled hunterbaffled v

leaden glacier
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i warned you!!!

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i warned you!!! but your hubris!!!

crimson wyvern
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should have listened to you spearpensivetothat

crude gull
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never gonna give you up
never gonna let you down
never gonna

quartz spindle
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Hello deltaruners

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||MY DELTARUNE... TOMORROW||

quartz spindle
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Normal off-topic did not appreciate my very great idea for rivflabbergaster

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I'll drop the image if anyone actually finds it funny they can use it (it's not funny lmao)

simple ore
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Then I exploded after seeing annoying dog because it's so cute.

quartz spindle
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I'm glad someone recognizes my genius

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Tbh it would probably look better if you made it black and white like a ut sprite but I'm too lazy for that

vivid verge
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Rick Ashley secret boss chapter 6

simple ore
civic mason
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they made a diagonal walking sprite mod

crude gull
simple ore
quartz spindle
tame glen
lone tusk
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WRONG flabbergaster

quartz spindle
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Another him

lone tusk
quartz spindle
left sage
quartz spindle
leaden glacier
heady fossil
left sage
crude gull
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||i still think the titan climbing sequence reminds me of temporal tower|| ch4 major

signal grail
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thanks!!! but wrong day!!!

signal grail
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no its your birthday i can tell

leaden glacier
signal grail
leaden glacier
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but it’s Not my birthday

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it is however my Shit Internet daymonksilly

signal grail
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shinternet

leaden glacier
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true 🐁

quartz spindle
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Actually suprised how well device theory held up.
Although it explicitly didn't really make story predictions so that's probably why

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I binged the whole series after playing chapter 3/4 and alot of the ideas were still pretty good id say

woven tulip
left sage
quartz spindle
quartz spindle
# signal grail what is device theory

Don't worry there is a "short" and "simple" video on it
||https://youtu.be/0UUrelL0WEs?si=2hX44qmTB-m4OBbP||

originally a simple theory video about DELTARUNE, turned into an existential disaster of an analysis. join me as i seek to answer how DELTARUNE may be using the fourth wall to further its message, through examining how UNDERTALE did it, applying it to both demos of DELTARUNE so far, as well as making my best attempt at a character analysis of th...

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signal grail
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can you summarise

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like whats the thesis

mild hull
signal grail
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fuck

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This server is Pissing me off...

mild hull
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im the original nightwatcher

woven tulip
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watcher ?!1

finite phoenix
# signal grail like whats the thesis

we the player are on a higher level of reality, using the deltarune program as a device made by somebody (look, it's just gaster) to connect to lower levels of reality, and this pattern continues down layers of fiction, from the game world and program later that we and gaster inhabit, to the light world full of lightners, to the dark world and its darkners.
it originally surmised that we may eventually keep going deeper into layers of fiction, entering a second order dark worlds, fiction within fiction, darker yet darker
although the nested narrative didn't really happen, (CH3) ||device theory hit the nail on the head for the themes of escapism, of delving deeper into fiction to find an escape from reality. this idea of fiction in fiction also appeared near directly in the sword route, where your soul is visible on the stream as you giving suspension of disbelief and control over to the new set of fiction||

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i'm still hoping in some way for a nested narrative to happen

signal grail
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i see

finite phoenix
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because it's a cool concept

signal grail
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i was talking about something similar with eva a few days ago lol