deltarune ch3-4 (soiler warning)

[woven tulip]

||next dark world is in holiday’s closet which is like castle town but there is santa claus instead of ralsei||

[civic mason]

||tony fox said so in a dream||

[leaden glacier]

||next chapter is the grocery store trust me|||

||the chapter we go into the shelter the vessel will be there||

||and everyone who made it bald because they thought it didn’t matter will Weep||

[woven tulip]

||then there would be a character that looks like papyrus but they say "did you mistake me for somebody else? i’m just sans, the local janitor."||

[leaden glacier]

HAHDIBEID

[civic mason]

||itll be a silhouete and it gonan speak with the papyrus font an say: "it is i, the great-" an then it jus gonan be snas||

[somber skiff]

i just came up with another ch5 theory

||jockington will join the party||

||there will be a miniboss that requires you to look wise to spare it||

||and when you tell jockington to look wise he grows a beard||

[woven tulip]

||big bibliox (a big book in the light world)||

[somber skiff]

reallll

[civic mason]

chaper 4 spiler
i won!!

i finaly finish all of current deltarune

[dapper shoal]

It may be a me thing but this isn't spoilered

Nevermind it was a me thing

[dapper shoal]

||mine is that we get a Ralsei centric shadow crystal boss this time||

[civic mason]

is ||its raining somewhere else|| playing right now!??? (chaper 4 spoiler)

[dapper shoal]

||We had Kris (spamton) and Susie (Gerson) now is time for the fluffy boy||

[dapper shoal]

||The tracks name is actually the place where it rained||

[civic mason]

||o cool||
||actualy very nice||

[woven tulip]

||ralsei is the secret boss, you now how to kill the prince ||

[somber skiff]

GG

[civic mason]

(chaper 4 spiler)
||wy was sans dancing with toriel||
||kris seems so genuinely upset abt that||
||i dont like that||

[woven tulip]

ralsei being evil theory was wrong, it’s YOU being evil 💔

[civic mason]

||it just seems wrong||
||especially how toriel didn even check wen kris and susie vanished for basically the entire day||

[weary granite]

||It is a reflection of how a lot of kids feel when their parents are dealing with divorces, in either parents case, both of them arent doing that good with it, so it hurts Kris even more ||

[weary granite]

Yeah, I felt a similar way

[civic mason]

||actually, wy did toriel and asgore divorce this time||
||is it stated somewhere i feel like i missed it||

[woven tulip]

||also they just fought a titan and learned about the last prophecy just barely before this||

[somber skiff]

ch3

[somber skiff]

ig it'll be revealed in future chapters

[somber skiff]

the entire deltarune subreddit is filled with meme about this btw

[weary granite]

Not rn, they are filled with a different one atm LOL

I recommend we dont discuss it much here though

[somber skiff]

fair

[somber skiff]

there are a lot tho

[weary granite]

WHY DID HERE AUTOCORRECT TO HERD?!?@?

[somber skiff]

HERD LMAO

[weary granite]

Oh yeah definitely lol

[heady fossil]

Herd mentality

[dapper shoal]

||not doing well is a understatement the TV got fucking traumatized from it||

[weary granite]

||"Remember, couples fighting is normal!

Back me up Kris!"||

[dapper shoal]

||Asgore fucked up somewhere got the blame pinned on him as the chief of police and I think he just wouldn't let it go so Toriel divorced him||

[dapper shoal]

||the family's fighting again
I'm sorry about the pipes. I shouldn't have done it I knew I shouldn't have done it||

[weary granite]

||I think theres a bit more to it, I think he did have to attack Dess, hence how he got the black shard (this is assuming Dess is knight), but he probably didnt intend to hurt her||

[dapper shoal]

||yeah Asgore probably didn't do anything intentionally bad but still had most of the blame shifted on him||

[weary granite]

||It would explain why Carol is helping him out so much, probably understood what actually happened||

[dapper shoal]

||or had a direct hand in it. Rudy is supporting him cus he's just a nice guy like that||

[civic mason]

lovely conversation\

(shuld i click any of the spoilers)

[sudden pilot]

It’s lore yappening stuff

[dapper shoal]

||in any case we are most likely going to learn more about Asgore seeing as where the next dark world is implied to be||

[weary granite]

||Rudy probably believes in him cause hes his closest friend and understands him

Also, I dont think Carol plays much of a role in the Knight's plan as we may think, we know from the weird route she talks normally on the phone and she shows up at the house even without Kris calling, so she may not be as important as we thought (tho we cant be too sure)||

[sudden pilot]

||favorite enemy (NON-BOSS) in deltarune go||

[weary granite]

||I CANT WAIT for Toriel to go to the festival with Sans and see Asgore's reaction when he bumps into them||

[sudden pilot]

||mine is probably mizzle tbh||

[dapper shoal]

||buble||

[civic mason]

||i have a few||
||cmera person|| (chaper 3)
||music|| (chaper 4)
||i cant remember if i even had a favrite for the first 2 chapers my memory is utter garbage||

[dapper shoal]

||I kid you not all I see when I look at mizzle is Brionne||

[sudden pilot]

||I like their attack patterns (not the cooler variant)||

[weary granite]

||Hmmmmm, Rouxl||

[sudden pilot]

||I feel like he falls into boss territory||

[dapper shoal]

||favorite in chapter 4 is probably the little cup boys||

[weary granite]

||His puzzles were too hard||

[dapper shoal]

||"The flower fields charred by jealousy" I also cannot wait||

[civic mason]

(chaper 3 spiler) ||i wanan go back and redo chaper 3 i didn get to fight the knight properly (no redo option )||

[dapper shoal]

||well did you save after Tenna?||

[civic mason]

||i think so||
||my memory is realy bad||

[dapper shoal]

||well then all you need to do to get the redo option is just try fighting||

[weary granite]

||Also, his prophecy mural was labeled as boss 3

I cant fuckin wait for the Asgore team up against Sans!||

[dapper shoal]

||Kris Asgore and the Soul agreeing that they need to beat the shit out of sans||

[sudden pilot]

||where’s susie I feel like she’d probably want to attack sans as well||

[weary granite]

||When we try to spare Sans, Kris is gonna refuse so hard lol||

[weary granite]

||She set up the meeting||

[civic mason]

||susie behind asgore:||

[dapper shoal]

||Susie would join mid beatdown not knowing what's going on||

[civic mason]

||the players who did geno on regular undertale ||

[dapper shoal]

||"Kris listen pal do not spare this bastard there is no mercy in his heart for us he will dunk our asses"||

[dapper shoal]

||"IVE MEMORIZED HIS PATTERNS LET ME AT EM KRIS"||

[civic mason]

||"yu just have to trust me on this one"||

[dapper shoal]

||"also Kris how okay are you with breaking the laws of reality"||

[weary granite]

[civic mason]

||wait what||
||breaking the laws of reality?||

[civic mason]

||(i have not done geno)||

[dapper shoal]

||sans fucks with the game and you literally have to drag the battle box to the fight option to kill him||

||this man legit attacks you in your turn on menus as well||

[weary granite]

||I cant wait for when Sans goes intk the machine and heads into the Undertale universe, and the "image of three people" was actually an image of Kris, Susie, and the vessel moments before beating the living shit out of him :D||

[sudden pilot]

||who would win: Tenna and Queen or (normal route) Spamton NEO||

[civic mason]

||kris, susie, and a pile of dust||

[civic mason]

||spamton neo wuld almost win but then queen and tenna wuld make a mech thing (its just them standing on each other) and wuld win||

[dapper shoal]

||queen has the Giga queen machine and Tenna has the can of foam||

[dapper shoal]

||No Tenna would bury spamton in foam of course ||

[civic mason]

||special mech attack: foam cannon!!||

||i think im gonan redo chaper 3 so i can get shadow mantle|| (chaper 3 spiler)

[woven tulip]

weird how it’s spelled ||"delta rune" in the ralsei’s legend but in every other instance (the hymn, the prophecy, dialogues of the voice, forgotten man, organikk) it’s "deltarune"|| ch4

[hasty sapphire]

Might as well blame it on ch1 being inconsistent with the rest of the game in general

I really hope they do a revamp once they're done with all the chapters

[woven tulip]

yeah, but the ||updated version after ch4 still has "delta rune", would be weird to alter the legend but not change that if it wasn’t intentional||

[hasty sapphire]

Maybe it is intentional

||Maybe it's a hint that Raslei's knowledge of the prophecy isn't 100% accurate but then again, why would he not fix that in post ch4 version after seeing it in the church||

[signal grail]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9-j3stq9vo||

evil

[mild hull]

un-swinging songs without fail makes them feel very robotic (not even necessarily in a bad way)

it just inevitably gives robot vibes

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spiler
||we've all been saying "tenna" but that's their last name, their first name is "(ant)" ||

[mild hull]

||it's like a title thing, "Mr. Tenna" or whatnot||

[civic mason]

||mr. tenna deserves the title!!||
||mr. tenna deserves respect!!||
||after all, it is tv time...||

[somber skiff]

😭

[somber skiff]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WJmfn8ZcKA||
...

[leaden glacier]

VIROVIROKUN I LOVE YOU

[leaden glacier]

ch3 ||i miss tenna ||

[somber skiff]

i agree

that or ||shadowguy or pippins||

[gritty goblet]

ch3 spoilr

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spiler ||mr tenna chaper 5 wen||

[cursive ravine]

Never

||did you give mettaton tenna||

[civic mason]

noo

[civic mason]

||mr tenna is living in castle town||

[cursive ravine]

Ok well you might be able to in chapter 5

||in chapter 4 if you interact with mettatons house you can give tenna a new house||

[civic mason]

its time ||to give mr tenna a new house||

[cursive ravine]

Cool

||ITS TV!! TIME!!!!!!!!!||

[alpine estuary]

chapter 4 (and pre-chapter 3 and 4 release arg) spoilers have you seen the ||"Lost where the forest would grow, the children followed the pointed tail." bit? worth looking into. it ties into a dess and asgore theory quite well||

oops i forgot to complete the message

[weary granite]

[civic mason]

oh god what ar they doing to spamton g

[dapper shoal]

That ain't spamton that shamtin

[alpine estuary]

@signal grail ||i saw you typing. your taking too long /ref /silly||

[signal grail]

🎃

[alpine estuary]

:fear:

[signal grail]

i was just gonna ask for the spamton pic to be spoiled 😭

[civic mason]

chaper 4 spoler ||your long||

[hardy marsh]

Chapter 5 secret boss (spoilers for chapter 4)

[finite sky]

I came up with this random headcanon for Kris based on the (very likely) idea that the angel is the player

I'm on break at work so I actually have time to share

Me: how can I make this about sky children of the light?

[alpine estuary]

oh true

[signal grail]

🇴

[crimson wyvern]

accurate\

[coral ibex]

chapter 3 endgame spoilers ||the knight is no joke, im getting my ass beat. im determined to win though, so win i will||

[cursive ravine]

||do you have the mantle?||

[somber skiff]

||MANTLELESS KNIGHT|| ch3 secret boss

[cursive ravine]

||I beat him mantless in a day without experience so I’m awesome||

[somber skiff]

damn

[cursive ravine]

Though to be fair I did see videos of people fighting him but that hardly matters

[somber skiff]

no hit now?

[cursive ravine]

No

Wait me or you?

[somber skiff]

damn

[coral ibex]

||yeah||

||im getting progressively better, im able to no-hit the first attack and near-no-hit the second. the third is a bit hard but im okay with that. the fourth ive only survived once.||

[cursive ravine]

Haha I’m better then you

/j

[somber skiff]

everyone

[coral ibex]

im rain worlding it, trying again and again but changing if something doesnt work, slowly testing the limits

[somber skiff]

anyways damn jevil feel like a coughing baby after the ch3 boss

[woven tulip]

spamton neo*

[coral ibex]

its supposed to be a near impossible fight (or feel like it… because im bad at the game) but… it IS beatable

so you just have to keep trying :D

[woven tulip]

||do you have quick restart thing?||

[uneven prism]

Friend inside me

[coral ibex]

is it even an enjoyable game if i dont put down my switch in anger before screaming into a pillow? /j (mostly)

[coral ibex]

||yeah||

[cursive ravine]

Yeah I fought them on switch too

[coral ibex]

||i like to think both kris and the knight are aware of it. theyre like “holy shit hes ass at this… oh shit here he comes again.”||

||each time i get better||

||only reason my progress is stalled is because i ate dinner and forgot how to dodge again||

im actually so bad at combat its funny. im so used to rain world where i can just leave a fight and come back more prepared and leave and like… stealth or cheese it. here thats not an option

[somber skiff]

nvm i still suck at jevil

[cursive ravine]

Did you know if you press Z right before rude buster hits them it does more damage

This is true I only put the evil thing because it’s a inside joke because I’m awesome

[somber skiff]

damn

bro im embarassingly bad at jevil's clover attack

[cursive ravine]

You are smelly at bullet patterns

[somber skiff]

yes

[coral ibex]

i got past the 5th attack

[somber skiff]

gg

[meager hatch]

||Lancer :3||
[ chapter 3 spoilers ig ]

||MIKE! Rebuild the set! Rebuild my kids!||

||tenna is so silly||

[somber skiff]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWY_lhWWxYQ||

ch3 spoiler for thumbnail ig

[hardy marsh]

Chapter 3 spopoilers

[somber skiff]

||rip tenna||

[hardy marsh]

Does it show with the spoiler tag or did i goose it

oh well

[somber skiff]

bro looks like they have a conscious heart shaped object controlling their every move

[woven tulip]

what even are ||lanino and elnina in the light world? . like, they can’t just be a weather channel, since they can be recruited independently from tenna.|| ch3 . kinda funny how some darkners’ light world forms are very obvious, but some are not really

[hasty sapphire]

||Might be figurines from the window sill||

[woven tulip]

||in the future chapters, there would be fire in the church, but kris and susie recruited the fire extinguisher, so it can’t be stopped /j||

[hasty sapphire]

||There can't be fire, they recruited all the candles||

[civic mason]

chaper 4 spoiler ||interact with temie during the start of chaper 4 now ||

[somber skiff]

||https://youtu.be/eOmoyH71HWI?si=UnN-CXwtLO2T6eqk|| ch4 spoiler

[woven tulip]

yeah

[civic mason]

fun fact ||is actualy a video of temie chang trying to sing dont forget and wishing toby fox a hapy birthday, but bit-cruched||

[crimson wyvern]

LOL

ch 3 spoilers

[heady fossil]

LMAO

[hasty sapphire]

||Knight is Papyrus wearing Dess's antlers headband (Dess is a human just like Kris)||

[glacial cargo]

youtubers try not to put spoilers in thumbnails challenge difficulty impossible

[crimson wyvern]

true

[hardy marsh]

||do u think he drives the hospital bed into battle too||

[leaden glacier]

ch3 ||tenna i love you why the fuck does he have to be painful to draw i hate anatomy||

i miss himmmmm

[woven tulip]

||that’s the armor||

[warm island]

chapter three soiler

[somber skiff]

should've been spamton instead of susie

[somber skiff]

LOL

[somber skiff]

||today i will delve into the roaring knight, how they kidnaps undyne after defeating the fun gang and plans to sacrifice her, noelle's mother carol and how she has something to do with the knight and how kris is working with the knight. Oh also spoiler warning for deltarune ch3 and ch4 and enjoy the video||

[clear sparrow]

this is so random lol

[dapper shoal]

||it's funnier in my mind of they don't remember since then the same thing that got it's ass handed to it by a water cooler is now no hitting the Knight and Kris is just confused as fuck||

[clear sparrow]

the fucking asgore running over dess meme is killing me

where did it come from why

[hasty sapphire]

The brainrot continues

[crimson wyvern]

100%

[cursive ravine]

I just remembered someone saying that video is too gruesome

[somber skiff]

which vid

[cursive ravine]

The asgore running over dess one

I sent it but immediately deleted it because of it

[dapper shoal]

open season 4

[cursive ravine]

It came from a leak for chapter 5 /j

[dapper shoal]

Or some open season movie

Hold on I got the original scene

https://youtu.be/PTApsEoWVlI

[leaden glacier]

don’t think there’s spoilers here but if there are it’s ch4 ||people theorising over the newspaper clippings related to asgore + dess being missing and. MAYBE something else ??? but i couldn’t tell you what||

[cursive ravine]

||it’s because he talks about “people seeing the truth” and with dess being missing people thought it was something to do with that so they said he ran over dess I think||

[leaden glacier]

i 🌊

[civic mason]

(chaper 3 spiler) ||i could've just bought s rank..||

[cursive ravine]

Jelyfish in next chapter trust

[cursive ravine]

Did you beat ||the knight?||

[civic mason]

||no i trying get the mantle||

[leaden glacier]

||gambling took me like 2 1/2 hours you did NOT miss anything||

like it would’ve probably been faster to Restart the chapter

[cursive ravine]

No you should be like me and beat them without it

It only took me a day with breaks

[civic mason]

||I am not good at the game||

[leaden glacier]

||i took some notes on the little guy if you want any if you’re struggling||

[cursive ravine]

Me neither

[civic mason]

||yu ar good yu beat the knight without the mantle||

[cursive ravine]

Well it took me a day

[leaden glacier]

uh-huh

how horrible of a time

that you beat the secret boss in a day

[leaden glacier]

(sarcasm)

[cursive ravine]

Also I did see people beat them before

So I knew some tricks and stuff before it

[leaden glacier]

if you’re bad what does that make anyone who struggles more

[cursive ravine]

Uhhhh

Uhhhh

Uhhh

[somber skiff]

ah

[leaden glacier]

you are good at deltarune

[cursive ravine]

To be honest the bullet patterns aren’t that bad if you practice and also watch the before hand

[leaden glacier]

tbh chapter 3 ||was. Way too fast for me in General not just the knight like. if we ever get accessibility options one of the biggest things i’d like to see is some sort of slow motion option||

preferably it wouldn’t affect just like. Walking around normally. but i’d still take it even if it did

[cursive ravine]

You do know you don’t have to run

[leaden glacier]

||for the knight specifically i HATE the sword hall attack||

[leaden glacier]

i said i would prefer it didnt affect walking around normally

[cursive ravine]

||So you look at swords coming on the right and move with those instead of looking at the soul||

[leaden glacier]

if i wanted to move slow in regular exploration i’d just walk

[leaden glacier]

might wanna spoiler that ^_^' (🎉) but thank you

[dapper shoal]

||for the second sword hall stay in the center area and make micro adjustments||

[hardy marsh]

Chapter 4 spoilers
||Any theories on why the Gerson statue is so agressive? It's some kind of Darkner but, Darkners are never shown with this level of hostility, and Ralsei just straight up shatters it||

[cursive ravine]

Yes

[dapper shoal]

||Dark fountains reflect the will of the one who made them||

[hardy marsh]

||So because Susie came in with the idea of the old man being dead, it did that?||

||And the statue came to life to cover up susies wish of seeing the old man, but still kinda creepy overall||

[dapper shoal]

||tbf a lot of things were probably going through her head at that moment with seeing the old man being the primary one||

[hardy marsh]

||What made the statue attack tho||

[dapper shoal]

||probably her anger against the knight and partly towards ralsei for hiding some things from her||

[dapper shoal]

Meanwhile on the heart side:
||❤️: so your vessel DOESN'T rebel against you every chance they get?
No?
❤️: lucky...||

[cursive ravine]

You forgot the emoji for the no

[dapper shoal]

How else was I supposed to differentiate between The Soul and Frisk's soul

[cursive ravine]

Blue

[cursive ravine]

Also this doesn’t make sense

We are the soul

[dapper shoal]

Yeah right papyrus I know who you are

[cursive ravine]

We aren’t talking to ourself

[dapper shoal]

A better meme would be that one I think I miss x meme

[cursive ravine]

What

[dapper shoal]

This

[leaden glacier]

ch4 ||would it be selfish to keep tenna||

[woven tulip]

yes

you also kinda promised in ch3

[leaden glacier]

aw man

[somber skiff]

LMAO

[somber skiff]

You're blue now!

[woven tulip]

they need to add new soul type, keyboard soul

there was switch soul so it would make sense

[somber skiff]

real

[woven tulip]

how does it not shatter though

[gritty goblet]

sky player..........

[cursive ravine]

I’m awesome

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yep

Yeah

[weary granite]

Heyya, tone it down on le spam

[cursive ravine]

I already stopped

[weary granite]

I know, Im just meanin in the future

[clear sparrow]

i need

more deltarune

[clear sparrow]

w.d gaster please make chapter 5 6 and 7 already

also wtf does w.d stand for

i never thought about it

[signal grail]

wingdings

its just the font name

wingdings aster

[storm bolt]

ch 3 lore

||divorce leads television to horrible places (more divorce)||

[clear sparrow]

what if sans is... evil...

[storm bolt]

[civic mason]

i have proof!!!
chaper 78,012 spoiler

[clear sparrow]

he would say this honestly

[signal grail]

no he wouldnt

[woven tulip]

there is no odd spacing, it’s fake

[clear sparrow]

how would you know

[signal grail]

im evil

[clear sparrow]

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spoiler ||can still buy s-rank just before fighting tenna||

[civic mason]

time to ||do knight without mantle wish me luck|| (chaper 3 spoer)

[civic mason]

i have to restart the new chapers from deltarune

[civic mason]

deltraune chaper e+12912 spilers

[leaden glacier]

i love ralsei

he’s so me

[civic mason]

ar yu going to be super-ultra-mega evil in chaper e+12912

making fake undertale/deltarune textboxes is so fun

why is ||mr. (ant)tenna so funny|| (chaper 3 spioler)

(chaper 3 spoiler ) ||i wuld watch mr. tenna's tv time every single day||

[hardy marsh]

Spoilers for chapter.....4 i Guess, i think this one doesn't go against the rules

[hasty sapphire]

||With the sword route being a parallel to the weird route/the prophecy I wonder how much we should look into it as a foreshadowing of future events||

||Will we end up using Noelle to access the shelter? Is eram supposed to be the knight? Is knight going to use up Kris?||

||If you assume eram represents the knight its dialogue starts making a lot more sense||

[leaden glacier]

MEEEE ME ME ME ME SAMESIES I WOULD TOO MEEEE SLUGPAWSHAKE

[leaden glacier]

yeah

[hasty sapphire]

Ralsei can't be evil

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spoler ||tenna needs a diolague picture thing||

[hasty sapphire]

Toby would never emotionally damage me like that

[civic mason]

well i have news for yu

[hasty sapphire]

Well then the game sucks

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455836779560304650/1217509054323228733/animal.gif

[leaden glacier]

ch3 ||i miss tennaaaaaaaaaaaa||

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spiler
||i was so close ||

also what does ||t-rank mean||
||did i mess up realy bad||

[leaden glacier]

||better than s rank!!! highest rank!!!||

or: EEL GOOD !!!!!

[civic mason]

||o yipi||
||i got z-rank on chef game tho ||

[leaden glacier]

||my physical challenges all sucked ass i’m sure you’ll be fine||

||do you plan to go gambling to buy s rank?||

[civic mason]

||pippins my frend they giv me s rank for a small sum of 1500 poits||

its ||mr (ant)tenna's t-v tiiiime!!!|| (chaper 3 spiler)

[storm bolt]

no ti isnt

[civic mason]

o
sory

[coral ibex]

chapter 3 endgame spoilers ||im so close to beating the knight i can taste it. im getting better and better. this guy is going down||

||im now consistently getting to the 2nd phase, halfway or close to the end of it most of the time. i can no-hit the first attack. im improving rapidly its awesome||

[civic mason]

||great job :D||

[coral ibex]

thanks!

[civic mason]

(chper 3 spiler) ||i didn get enough points and i don think i got s-rank i need to redo the chaper now ||

[coral ibex]

||which board are you on?||

[civic mason]

||2||
(also chaper 3 spilers)

||noo ||

[coral ibex]

||dont save, return to title||

||if you saved right before doing board 2 you should be okay||

[civic mason]

||wair yu smar||
||ty||

[coral ibex]

||youd just have to do board 2 over :D||

||yeyey it saved me a lot of pain during my sword route.. if thats why youre doing s-rank||

[nocturne mango]

wd50

[coral ibex]

windows developer

[nocturne mango]

true..

[civic mason]

||i too bad to beat the knight without shadow mantle||

[coral ibex]

deltarune chaper 3 endgame soiler ||uhh knight fight yeah||

||just the first bit :3||

i cant record more then 30 seconds or so at a time on switch unfortunately

im so bad at this game i will flex whenever i can

to cover up how awful i generally am

[civic mason]

noo yu great :D

[coral ibex]

in rare instances yeah, but i also am fully capable of struggling with chapter 1 enemies in my 4th playthrough

just keep trying again and again and learn each time! and then show people when youre good :3
its a good method

[leaden glacier]

i’m curry🍛ous which c1 enemies

[hasty sapphire]

Starting weird route playthrough, time to be mean to everyone

[coral ibex]

any if im not thinking fast enough

k round has served me up before

[hasty sapphire]

Coming up with names is by far the hardest part of the game

[leaden glacier]

i Don’t know if we’re allowed to send animatics/animations/whatnot here but. i Think we would be ?? probably ??? i’ll risk it for this. peak alert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doCr0xPqd8c big ch3 spoilers, ||mild sword route (like one line and a small scene)|| spoilers. go my favouritest thing ever

[mild hull]

I dunno why you wouldnt be able to send animatics here

(assuming no rulebreaking content within said animatic)

[leaden glacier]

i figured but like. My anxieties

i don’t Recall anything rule breaking in the video

[mild hull]

wow that's an impressively long animatic for 2 weeks after release

[leaden glacier]

NODNOD. i hope their wrist is okay

[mild hull]

I assumed it was some old project and there'd just be C3/4 stuff mixed in, but it seems to be entirely made post-release

or at least like 80%

I wonder if they played C4 or just played C3 and then went into a fugue state and woke up two weeks later having made the animatic

[leaden glacier]

HELP

yeagh that would be. i wouldn’t be too surprised given it seems there’s. Absolutely no c4 content ? like not even ||mettaton’s ghost|| at the end

oops i forgot to enable notifs for this thread

i need to replay c3 soon i NEED to have coherent thoughts on this guy my only thoughts on him are or ||ILoveTV!||

[finite sky]

(chapter 3 ending / mid chapter 4 spoilers)
ever since i saw this tweet talking about ||how dess is very likely the knight because of the ice skates in her closet and the resemblance of knight poses to ice skating motions, i literally cannot unsee this so im gonna slowly work on doodles related to that (we love working 5 hours a day)||

||https://fixupx.com/Cuneyt_S_Sevi/status/1937204630909280258?s=19|| for anyone who's curious abt what i saw

Cüneyt🇹🇷🇺🇦🇵🇸 (Deltarune Spoilers) (@Cuneyt_S_Sevi)

Thought this was worth sharing

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FixupX · Jun 23, 2025, 5:42 PM

[leaden glacier]

ohhhh inchresting i was aware of like. Everything else. but that’s Neat

[leaden glacier]

ALSOOOOOO your art is very shaped

[finite sky]

yeah obviously theres clearer hints but this really solidified the idea in my mind

thank you!

i love shapes

[covert karma]

a cool more bit of information too, ||the knight seems to be left handed, and dess is also implied to be left handed as her mouse in her room is left handed!||

looove the mystery of this character its so good

[broken solstice]

||ngl that Thing is also a shapeshifter that can turn into a flat circle and still have full control, I dont think which hand it uses really matters. It could even be that it was made that way to avoid direct easy binds and parries when fighting the majority of people, to land more easy hits which deal absurd damage.||

[dapper shoal]

||the hand thing is also a bit inconsistent with some attacks||

[hasty sapphire]

Yep, snowgrave spamton is hard

First time I'm seeing game over screen

[hardy marsh]

Weird route ch 2 spoilers just in case you haven't played that yet

[supple belfry]

always wondered whats the significance of putting the ||man behind the tree's egg|| in asgore's fridge

[hardy marsh]

Idk cause ||later on you just give them to Temmies egg||

[broken solstice]

||I think eggs will get at least some significance. They seemed to get the same treatment as dark shards and weird route, with new secrets hinting towards the way of obtaining old secrets.||

[supple belfry]

hopefully... i dont mind some minor differences tbh

[hardy marsh]

||but you can't get the egg in the weird route (i think)||

[clear sparrow]

c2 egg is not available in weird route yea

but thats the only one im pretty sure

[hasty sapphire]

Eggs are weird

[hardy marsh]

||You can't get it in the third chapter either, at least if you attack all enemies, the guy that teleports you to the location will not be present so you won't be able to get it, maybe you can somehow get it before attacking that enemy that would mean sparing some||

[hasty sapphire]

The way they went from just some random easter egg to ||potentially important lore drop||

Feels like they weren't originally planeed to be anything important

[hardy marsh]

Or were they

[hasty sapphire]

The shift between how ch3-4 eggs are handled compared to ch1-2 feels a bit too much

But first two chapters feel different just in general

[signal grail]

werent eggs always related to gaster though

it makes sense for them to become somewhat relevant

(<-- has not seen the ch3 and 4 eggs)

[leaden glacier]

were they?? all i remember is ch1 egg having a “man behind the tree”, unless i missed some sort of leitmotif. i don’t remember the song name for that room

oh you just reminded me of an old fantheory.

someone was like “gaster is the knight because “EGG” in wingdings is 👈 👆 👆 which is how a knight moves”

[signal grail]

LOL

i remember that

[signal grail]

ive always heard people talk about eggs and gaster together

[broken solstice]

Both eggs and Gaster/best candidate for Gaster share the same way of being found, and also Gaster along with entire egg quest share the theme of "a place inbetween"

[leaden glacier]

unless i’m missing a leitmotif in the man i don’t see a fully concrete connection besides people really really liking to bring gaster into discussions as a sort of “he’s weird put it on him” thing

[leaden glacier]

hmmmm i 🌊

[hasty sapphire]

We don't even know if the man behind the tree is Gaster (it's likely not)

[broken solstice]

Who else could it be?

[hasty sapphire]

Man

[broken solstice]

It is a man, not a monster

[signal grail]

gerson /j

[hardy marsh]

Hold on

Why

[signal grail]

hmmmm 🧊

[leaden glacier]

gaster is really funny to me actually he’s relevant to normal ut gameplay like once via the core and everyone freaks out over him /silly

like. some people misattribute some of the true lab entries to gaster

they may support women’s rights but not women’s wrongs

though in deltarune he IS quite a bit more relevant probably

[hasty sapphire]

A bit

Still don't believe he will be directly involved in the main story

[leaden glacier]

yeagh fair

one of my friends Did have a theory that uhhh. indirect ch3 spoiler ||entry no. 17 was something to do with the dark world|| which i thought was neat

me when i can type ??

[hasty sapphire]

Would be funny if Gaster ended up having near zero significance in deltarune and he was put in undertale only to foreshadow deltarune

[leaden glacier]

HELP yeah

shoutout to gaster the only relevant thing to normal gameplay we can be pretty sure he did was immediately discarded <3

however i Do find it interesting that the vessel stuff gets stored

[signal grail]

this is a pretty popular theory

[leaden glacier]

oh i 🌊

[signal grail]

gaster is talking at the end of every chapter, during goner maker and before the release of each chapter so he has to do something

[hasty sapphire]

He's making the game

[leaden glacier]

i’m not super into theorising communities anymore so i. don’t know what’s popular or not

[hasty sapphire]

Maybe Gaster is just second Toby's self insert

[signal grail]

||my only current theory as to what he could actually have done in the story is be the "demon" that catti and kris summon as kids, and the are we connected dialogue at the start is gaster giving us control of kris in that moment||

[leaden glacier]

i think you forgot to mention what that’s a spoiler for ^_^'

[signal grail]

umm

chapter 4

[leaden glacier]

noted

[broken solstice]

Chapter 3 spoilers
||the Relsei lore drop in ch3 SCREAM gaster imortance. It got a song that we know is called Gasters Theme, got text directly pasted from one of only Gaster dialogues we know, and explains what it meant. Its just too much to be a red herring||

||Gasters theme also appears in Lost Girl, which is an importmant piece of music tied to the main story||

[mighty pagoda]

hm (ch4 endgame i think)

[hasty sapphire]

||It's just an explanation of how the world works, still in line with Gaster being an author of deltarune, doesn't exactly scream that Gaster is going to be directly involved in the main plot to me||

[signal grail]

||i didnt notice flashback is just gasters theme 😭||

[hasty sapphire]

||Also I don't believe flashback is supposed to be specifically Gaster's theme, more like a general mystery theme||

[broken solstice]

||It contains Gasters Theme. Like the music the game literally tells us is called Gasters Theme||

||It isnt just mystery theme, its Gasters theme||

[leaden glacier]

||i feel like toby is also usually pretty careful with songs sounding like eachother anyhow||

||like even if it wasn’t just That||

[woven tulip]

||"represents"? it could as well be the knight itself.||

||also the city board events already were in the game, it’s just cyber city. maybe, attacking ralsei and susie could be a foreshadowing, but it could also be symbolic, since kris isn’t with them in a similar part of chapter 2||

[woven tulip]

ngl it’s incredibly inconsistent

for all characters

often their main hand is switched when the sprite is rotated, including in some scenes with ||the knight||

also a lot of computers in the game are "left handed"

||the knight also uses the right hand in some attacks as well||

[woven tulip]

||yeah, but shadow crystals are literally displayed in the chapter selection screen. they are way more significant||

[woven tulip]

||there is no weird route in ch3 . attacking everyone is compatible with the weird route, but weird route doesn’t require to do it. you can spare all enemies in chapter 3 and 4 in the weird route||

[broken solstice]

They are more significant for sure, didnt deny that

[hardy marsh]

ah ok

[woven tulip]

||you can’t get the egg after completing the sword route, though. but you can do it before the last game ||

[woven tulip]

they both also say ||"deltarune is waiting"||

i mean the voice and the man

[woven tulip]

but gaster is already almost surely involved from chapter 1 . well, we may never meet gaster in person, though.

[hasty sapphire]

So far he's only involved on a meta level

[woven tulip]

||ralsei cutscene in ch3 mentions "darker than dark", and the hymn in ch4 has "shadows cutting deep" which is exact phrasing in entry 17||

[woven tulip]

which is probably true

[woven tulip]

well it isn’t exactly the same theme, but it seems intentionally similar

[hasty sapphire]

This scene is funnier without the dealmaker

[mighty pagoda]

||you can even take the pipis afterwards||

[broken solstice]

||considering the amount of community references in ch3 and ch4, its possible that ch5 will have references of the Asgore Hitting Dess With A Truck meme||

[hasty sapphire]

Speaking of that, ||how is this song playing during Tenna's flashback supposed to make it relate to Gaster||

[woven tulip]

what

it plays during first cutscene too

it plays in many scenes

[hasty sapphire]

That one is more reasonable to tie to Gaster

[woven tulip]

and that scene does relate

[hasty sapphire]

But this one just makes no sense

So I don't think it's an exclusively Gaster song

[woven tulip]

lost girl also appears in unrelated places

but it’s still a theme related to a character

[hasty sapphire]

Because lost girl isn't Noelle/Dess theme

[woven tulip]

it is though

[hasty sapphire]

Not always

It's just an emotional moment song

[woven tulip]

it’s still their theme, but it plays in unrelated scenarios despite this, like memory in undertale

it also has noelle’s leitmotif

https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1173215561721032704

tobyfox (@tobyfox)

(I said this was Noelle's Theme but it's actually the kind of song that gets used repeatedly all over the game, even when she's not around...)

X · Sep 15, 2019, 12:42 PM

[leaden glacier]

correct me if i’m wrong but this reads as you using “i said [x] but it’s actually kind of [y]” as evidence for [x]

[hasty sapphire]

Ok I might've gotten a bit too far with that

[woven tulip]

considering it has noelle’s leitmotif , and ||songs in dess’ room and gacharoom_unknown being basically variants of it||, it’s more that it’s their theme, which is also used in other moments too

[hasty sapphire]

My point is, if someone's theme plays during a moment it doesn't necessarily mean this moment is tied to that character, lost girl is a good example of that

[signal grail]

thats exactly the point of a leitmotif though 😭

[hasty sapphire]

Also doesn't flashback plays only thrice in the game

2 times completely unrelated to Gaster

So it hasn't even been established it's Gaster's theme in deltarune

[leaden glacier]

that’s fair i just thought it was funky evidence

[broken solstice]

Where does it play exactly?

[hasty sapphire]

Post snowgrave hospital visit and twice in ch3

Maybe there's more but that's all I can remember

[woven tulip]

no? it has quite a few uses. it can mean different kinds of connections (||if there is a similar melody in flashback to gaster’s theme, it can be because both are related to dark worlds rather than to each other directly||)

[woven tulip]

||northernlight theme is very similar to flashback, which plays in the sword route||

[finite sky]

whos to say a track cant be associated with multiple characters to mislead us

||raise your bat having the lost girl leitmotif is very intentional in my eyes, its dess's favorite song... and who else can we possibly associate as a literal lost girl||

also im sure toby had fun with making ||his theme and heartbreak play when tenna talks about asriel and toriel lmao||

[woven tulip]

it plays? the first one

[dapper shoal]

||it's also to ruin your streak on the rhythm challenge the first time you play||

[woven tulip]

mislead?

of course they would share leitmotif

like toriel and asgore

[finite sky]

everyones taking each other leitmotif in the divorces 💔

[woven tulip]

chapter 5 toriel ||having sans leitmotif||

[dapper shoal]

||Iswtg if Asgore has the freedom motif instead of heartache in chapter 5 or something||

||Freedom from the divorce||

[hasty sapphire]

||Freedom from sanity||

||Why would he need a freedom motif anyway, we're not assuming he's going to be a secret boss||

[dapper shoal]

||I would not be surprised if toby pulls a fast one and Asgore is the shadow crystal boss||

[finite sky]

he ||has a shadow crystal though...||

[hasty sapphire]

||Black shard, not a crystal||

[finite sky]

||fair||

[dapper shoal]

||or papyrus secret boss seeing as the final soul mode we haven't seen yet is blue
MUFFET IS THE SECRET BOSS||

[hasty sapphire]

||Me want Kris secret boss||

[dapper shoal]

||this logically means that Asgore beat the shit out of the knight and got the shard from the sword of course ||

[hasty sapphire]

That was my first thought

[dapper shoal]

||I think the next secret boss will be focused on ralsei as we already had a Kris focused one (spamton) and Susie focused one (Gerson)||

[hasty sapphire]

||Honestly might be true considering how knight needs Toriel to stay asleep in dark world, maybe some older lightners are too powerful in dark world||

[hasty sapphire]

||I think Susie getting "her own" secret boss is a one-off to reinforce that she's the protagonist, calling spamton Kris focused is a bit of a stretch I feel||

[cursive ravine]

Guys ||gerson is very awesome||

[dapper shoal]

||spamton is a direct parallel to Kris and obviously affected them in some way||

[hasty sapphire]

Though new chapters give some new reasons for Kris to want freedom

[cursive ravine]

Spamton divorced ||tenna||

[dapper shoal]

Not to mention that you do one on one battle spamton

In the weird route

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spiler ||mr. (ant)tenna's tv time||

[cursive ravine]

||divorce leads tv to the worse places (more divorce)||

[dapper shoal]

||I imagine Kris making the dark world to distract themselves from the divorce and stress and the TV is more traumatized than they are||

[cursive ravine]

||and also they made it for whatever plan they have with the knight||

[dapper shoal]

||or to try and save Toriel from getting taken||

[cursive ravine]

No

Not really

They are working with them

Definitely

[hasty sapphire]

I think it's partially true

[cursive ravine]

It’s not a theory it’s a fact

[dapper shoal]

||yes but maybe the chapter 3 darkworld was made to buy time so that undyne could be taken||

[cursive ravine]

Idk

[hasty sapphire]

||I think Kris is forced to work with the knight so they slashed tires to bring Undyne there and save Toriel, I don't think that was a part of knight's plan||

[cursive ravine]

It could be an plan failed successfully

[somber skiff]

lmaoooo

[dapper shoal]

||Needed a lightner never said which one||

[hasty sapphire]

||Why would Kris be willing to let knight take their mother though||

[cursive ravine]

||Well not just any lightner it has to be one of the ones who line up with the symbols||

[dapper shoal]

||you could also interpret the Knighting scene after beating the Knight as a "remember your place"||

[dapper shoal]

||so Toriel is definitely the delta rune most likely||

[hasty sapphire]

||Symbols are relevant to us, not sure they're relevant to the knight||

[cursive ravine]

I DONT KNOW MAN THERE IS STILL ONLY 4 CHAPTERS WE DONT KNOW THEIR REASONING!!!!!

[dapper shoal]

||definitely being forced to||

[hasty sapphire]

It feels like every single character has their own motivation

[cursive ravine]

||If they took undyne and it lines up with the symbols and they tried to take toriel who lines up with the symbols then yes they do care about them||

[dapper shoal]

||and they most likely already have the pine tree code||

[hasty sapphire]

I mean it's very likely, just not 100% confirmed

[cursive ravine]

||i personally believe in dess knight theory because there are soooo many things pointing at them to the point where saying they aren’t is atleast a little bit fueled by contrarianism||

[dapper shoal]

||Alvin knight ||

[cursive ravine]

It’s like saying a lesbian character could be bisexual if it isn’t confirmed

[hasty sapphire]

It's good to leave room for other interpretations

[cursive ravine]

||No I doubt it because gerson would not like it and the obviously admire gerson with the statues and they don’t write the sermons but use his||

[cursive ravine]

But when it’s like 99% to 1% it’s kinda just taking another side for the sake of taking another side

[leaden glacier]

completely unrelated c3 ||i miss tennaaaaaaaa ||

[hasty sapphire]

||I mean, we've had 4 dark worlds created by the knight and we see them actually try to do something only in one, we have no idea what their goal is and saying that it has to be tied to the symbols on the lock is a bit of a stretch||

[cursive ravine]

No

Not really

[hasty sapphire]

Not really to which part

[cursive ravine]

How it’s a stretch

Like did you read what I said before

[vivid verge]

Why are always spoiling text when if someone comes in here they've probably already at least played chapter 3

[leaden glacier]

#1379482184980758598 message

[vivid verge]

Still doesn't make sense

Is it in case someone accidentally stumbles into here? If so why don't the same rules apply to the rain world spoiler channels?

[leaden glacier]

i think it’s in the case someone comes here to talk about their playthrough and doesn’t want to be spoiled

however we already have channels dedicated to that for rain world

[vivid verge]

I know but we don't spoil text in those chats

I mean I'll abide by the rules and all, I just think they're unnecessarily

[leaden glacier]

because you’re in a thread for one person

people did have to spoil text in older fp threads that had multiple people in a first playthrough at once

[leaden glacier]

if you have qualms or queries about it i would ask courier i will admit i’m mostly just inferring and don’t know staff’s exact thought process

[vivid verge]

Thank you

[civic mason]

||suse deltarune||

[leaden glacier]

SUSIEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

i love suz

[woven tulip]

||there won’t be a secret boss, but rather main boss will have a crystal ||

[leaden glacier]

||ch5 secret boss is the flowers for REAL this time !!! /sillyj||

[civic mason]

chaper 9 spilers

[woven tulip]

||no it’s just gerson||

[mild hull]

yeah 🙂

it allows people to participate during their playthrough

without seeing all of the spoilers

[woven tulip]

it’s still a theory , theory having a lot of hints doesn’t make it a fact because there are still some assumptions made

[civic mason]

we do a little silly

[finite sky]

hd flowey 😨

[woven tulip]

which is possible . and it won’t matter for the story anyway in this case, so who really cares

[vivid verge]

||among us deltarune||

[vivid verge]

This undertale+?

[civic mason]

i do a little fake textbox creation

[woven tulip]

argumentum ad populum .

sorry

[finite sky]

end chapter 3 spoilers, i gotta go to work soon but im working on this

[cursive ravine]

What?

[civic mason]

chaper 2 spoilers (for the character, not for the dialogue)

[civic mason]

woa amazing

[finite sky]

i might also turn them into little sprites, we'll see

[woven tulip]

"why do i have a colored portrait"

[civic mason]

i shuld have done that
thats hilarious

[cursive ravine]

I said like?

[leaden glacier]

OHHHHHHHHHH YHESE ARE YUMBLY SHAPED /VVVPOS

[woven tulip]

i don’t assume any specific identities for characters anyway . i’m saying it doesn’t really matter, what only matters is what is actually shown or implied in the story

[cursive ravine]

First of all theory’s definitely matter second I wasn’t talking about identities💀

[woven tulip]

yeah, i meant in your example .

[cursive ravine]

Yeah

It’s an example💀

I’m not saying you did what I said

I said it’s like that

[woven tulip]

it wasn’t me though 💔, i’m just replying to everything

[cursive ravine]

What

Then don’t

I didn’t realize

Don’t act like your the person who said it it confused me

[woven tulip]

it can be confusing but i didn’t imply that i am?

[cursive ravine]

REPLYING LIEK YOU ARE IS IMPLYING

[woven tulip]

[finite sky]

theres definitely an air of miscommunication going on, take a step back /lh

[cursive ravine]

It’s so mean

[vivid verge]

||roaring knight is obviously Jerry from undertale||

[sudden pilot]

(Ch 3) ||just beat knight again, fuck I forgot how fucking hard that fight is||

[vivid verge]

||yall think friend inside me is gonna be in chapter 5?|| I guess technically not a spoiler more like uh speculation

[finite sky]

in the ||cut board|| in chapter 3, theres a ||quiz that directly mentions asgores "favorite puppet show" was cancelled lmao||

[woven tulip]

✱ the air crackles with miscommunication

[broken solstice]

||No, but Trucksgore will||

[sudden pilot]

(Chapter 3) ||black knife was a track that took some time to grow on me, but now that I’ve gotten used to the ‘feel’ of it
I love it, how the lost girl motif is twisted, how the freedom motif is incredibly hidden, and how it overwhelms at the start but relaxes a bit near the end||

[woven tulip]

||okay but freedom leitmotif is a bit of a stretch lol ||

[supple belfry]

so i tried replaying from chap 1 so i can ||collect the shadowshards||, and then ive heard that (chp 3) ||you can get the shadow mantle from thr secret boss fight||. i sucked at the (chp3) ||chef game. i got A tho, but ive heard i need to S-rank the first board to progress the hidden game||

[civic mason]

||yu can buy s-rank from a pippins in one of the parts of the green room for 1500 points, but if yu don have enough points for the 2nd board (if yu still need the 2nd board) then yu have to s-rank board 2||

[leaden glacier]

not quite !

||as long as you get b or more you can use the gambling machine that has a chance to give you 200 points after you spend 100 points. you’ll need to savescum it though||

it also might be faster to just restart the chapter ^_^' ||depends how many points you’re down||

||also you uh. Kind of need the s rank for board one if you wanna do anything with board two’s game||

[vivid verge]

||if you do horrible enough you can access the s rank rooms. Its called z rank||

[signal grail]

||you can buy an s rank from a pippins below the green room||

[civic mason]

(chaper 3 spiler) ||i just realized i can keep taking pictures of one of the tree enemies to grind points for a bit||
||ive already gotten 200 points||

[leaden glacier]

IS THAT THE ONE. noted thank you thank you

[civic mason]

what

[leaden glacier]

one of my friends mentioned ||you can grind points on one enemy|| but i didn’t know which

you have provided me with valuable information. if unintentionally

[civic mason]

||it has to be the one in the tree tho, or it wont work||
||if yu leave to reset them too quick yu don get the points||
||sometimes it wont give points, just go check out a differen room for a wile||

[civic mason]

yipi i was helpful :D

chaper 3 spiler
||its this one||

[leaden glacier]

i 🌊 thank you very much

[civic mason]

yipi i useful (rare)

[civic mason]

||also yu get extra +1 point for each bullet yu capture in the picture||
||very little but it helps||

[leaden glacier]

ooooh that’s fun

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spoilers
||here's me grinding that one enemy for a bit||

||yu can see in the last one i exited too quickly and didn get points||

[civic mason]

||yu have until the frame before the points show on-screen to leave and avoid getting points||

[leaden glacier]

noted! thank you!

[civic mason]

||also kinda common sense but its quicker to grind from the top room down instead of from the side like im doing in the video||

[signal grail]

||grinding points 10 at a time doesnt seem very worth it||

[leaden glacier]

||it’s far more worth it than spending 2 and a half hours gambling||

[civic mason]

||i went from 349 -> 1502 pretty quickly||
||or at least it didn feel that long||

[civic mason]

||probably not exactly 1502 i cant remember||
||ik it was 15xx tho||

[signal grail]

for what

[leaden glacier]

||1500 points||

also i thoroughly enjoy doing menial repetitive short tasks

[signal grail]

surely you can get that many without needing to grind

||are points really that scarce||

[leaden glacier]

for me <3

alternative is ||letting susie rip up grass for 5 points a piece on board 1||

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spilers
||i played undertale, i did the mettaton, ive been prepared for this answer||

chaper 3 spilers
yipi!!

||it only took 2 tries :D||

[signal grail]

congrats

[signal grail]

||doing bonus stuff like 4 (5?) photos and eating moss and such gives you a bonus towards s rank, and if not s rank im pretty sure theyd give you extra points anyway||

||im not sureh ow the points system works||

[civic mason]

(cheper 3 s pilers) ||its mantling time||

[leaden glacier]

i have some notes if you want em !

[somber skiff]

ch3
||no stop every daay its a new song modded into deltarune lightner live😭||
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtrbaFotjT4||

[leaden glacier]

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[civic mason]

||it wuld be very helpful||
||yu don have to waste yu time tho||

[weary granite]

||Ralsei's voiceline is just E
(It'll be censored)||

[leaden glacier]

||- if you come in on the LEFT tile you are basically guaranteed a free hit at the start if you can time going up and slashing before they teleport

• first stage: they do 6 orange balls 4 times. they don't do this attack twice in a row. the 3 bombs seem to always have 1 on either of the bottom 2 walkable rows
• before the final meteor thingy they teleport back near the center row after ~4 falls
• because of this you can spam attack them after the fourth fall to get a Lot of damage in
• the little cat thingies give you candy rarely!||
  third bullet is probably the most important one goes along with the fourth bullet discord just despises indents

[civic mason]

||ty||

[somber skiff]

real

[signal grail]

||i learned the other day that the friends are more likely to give you healing the more you die||

from a youtube comment so maybe not true but it sounds like something that would exist

[civic mason]

(chaper 3 spiler) ||finally got the shadow mantle||
||it took me way too long to figure out yu need to hit mantle boss during the meteor attack on the last phase to win||

[leaden glacier]

YAYYYYYYY also yeah don’t worry you are Not alone in that regard

[signal grail]

[civic mason]

(chepr 3 spiler) its ||time to fight the knight||

[leaden glacier]

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spiler ||knight kil me i died ||

[somber skiff]

dang

[kind condor]

[insert does he know image here]

[supple belfry]

oooooo

||so bribing's an option lol. i love this game||

||wait, wheres the eggs-husband||

[somber skiff]

lmao this video youtube decided to recommend me has the worst title of all time

[opal grotto]

I hate people that do that

Spoilers! -direct spoilers-

Thats not enough of a warning

[somber skiff]

yea

[signal grail]

theres so much of that with dletarune

[meager hatch]

Wait hold on doesn't this thread still have the no rw discussion rule

[somber skiff]

yes

[meager hatch]

Okay........

Blasted because no rw discussion

Sadly backgrounds from ingame are not allowed

:(

[somber skiff]

nooo

[opal grotto]

[meager hatch]

Ok bye now

[hardy marsh]

Oh, that's silly xddd but i understand

Have this instead

[somber skiff]

for those that was wondering: It's an image of kris being a rw slugcat and susie being a rw lizard and susie says to kris "Uhh kris, I think it's gonna rain in this world" with the work "rain" and "world" highlighted red. The humour of this deleted image relys on stating the obvious that the world of rain world will rain, whilst simultaneously referencing the game "rain world", which is where the kris and susie depiction came from. However, shortly after being sent to the official rain world discord server, it was deleted bt the user due to the image containing a background from an area in game, which could potentially cause minor spoiler to rain world, even if the spoiler was just the background. This action is done to prevent anybody that has not played rain world but has played deltarune from being spoiled about any potential areas in the game. I hope this short summary of the deletad image helped those who have not seen the original image posted here

[meager hatch]

What the fuck

[somber skiff]

yes

a ally short summary of the image without any spoiler stuff

[meager hatch]

No ralsei you can't misgender them thats evil :(

[somber skiff]

dun dun dun

[meager hatch]

Nonbinary more like nonalive... haha haha.. ha /silly

[hardy marsh]

Mrwwww mrrrrp

[meager hatch]

[ dont kill nonbinary people please I dont promote killing people ]

[meager hatch]

What the fuck ^2

Why is Susie all shoes

[hardy marsh]

Goomba

[somber skiff]

shoesie

[meager hatch]

Toriel saying " I am am HOMOPHOBIC "

[leaden glacier]

sudden massive urge to recite ||the mystery jingle|| (ch3)

[meager hatch]

WHY IS GASTER ALL LEGS IN THE BACKGROUND

[somber skiff]

legster

[meager hatch]

What deltarune tomorrow does to a person

Human i remember you're homophobia

Anyways

I gotta leave

Bye

[somber skiff]

bye

[somber skiff]

deltarune ch5 secret boss spoiler
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWmihycn9xs||

||i think this might be the funniest dr video i've ever seen wtf||

||well besides you're taking too long||

BRO THE GODDAMN SONG'S COMMENT SECTION IS SO PEAK

i think this game has made me completely lose it more time then all other games i played combined wtf

genuinely haven't laughed this hard in ages

[finite sky]

im home... that means i can finish drawing ||the knight||

[somber skiff]

||"Asgore, I remember your vehicular manslaughter"||

[somber skiff]

literally

[nocturne mango]

that's like weeks ago sob

[civic mason]

(chapers 3 an 4 spilers) ||gerson wuld absolutely thrash the knight||

(chaper 3 spilers) ||im getting to the susie dialogue wen fighting the knight||

[kind condor]

oh shoot it put me at that point and I was just reading that

[vivid verge]

||https://youtu.be/J6Ffs43d6EY||

soiler

[leaden glacier]

spoilers don’t work super well if you don’t say what it’s spoiling; it’s best to indicate the chapter it’s a spoiler for

[crude gull]

i think the images are ch3

well the first one is

the second is a video

i'm not watching a video, bye!

[finite sky]

worry not, fellow video haters, i have a static picture to gaze upon (chapter 3 end spoilers)

i finished that thing

i did a comparison of the sprite with what i drew and wow their head is a lot bigger than i thought lmao

[crude gull]

yippee

[crimson wyvern]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-DRC-1VMc8&list=RDt-DRC-1VMc8&start_radio=1 || late chapter 3 spoilers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1294781547043356762.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=invjam

[lofty elm]

Deltarune spoilers: ||Asgore runs over Dess with his truck because she's the roaring knight||

[lofty elm]

imagine if it's not actually ||Gerson|| and it's just some random ||old guy||

[woven tulip]

there is no evidence for this?

||the hammer has to be gerson’s||

||"hammer of justice" was also gerson’s title in undertale||

[lofty elm]

i know lol

I just thought it would be funny

[hasty sapphire]

Replaying ch3 for the third time and noticed this only now

This says some things

[leaden glacier]

OHHHHH EVEN MORE SHAPES,,,,,,,, i love how you draw them

[hardy marsh]

Major spoilers for chapter 4
||So if you are playing on console Deltarune has borders depending on the zone and moment, maybe theres on pc i'm still not sure but THIS one has to be the best||

||The freaking Eyes!!! Animated with their pupils fading in an out all the time||

||And then when you fight the Titan they flash red every time you land a hit, so cool||

[civic mason]

||what if they followed your soul movement during the fight ||

[hardy marsh]

That would have been too much i think jajsjajs

[woven tulip]

new theory: ||borders are actually characters in deltarune||

[supple belfry]

(chp 3) ||welp, i didnt knew that was snowgrave gameplay on the backstage game console part.||

[civic mason]

chaper 3 spilers
||scarey fight||

[supple belfry]

||omg its the roaring fraud||

||the fact that this is the new punching bag of the community is really funny||

[civic mason]

||ye except im very bad at the game||
||furthest ive ever gotten is the circle sword attack thing||

[supple belfry]

||same. i now have a big skill issue on bullet hell games||

||also i just lost first most so i didnt go far||

[civic mason]

||noo im sure yu great||

i ||died at the circle sword attack again||

[leaden glacier]

ch3 ||IMissTV!||

[civic mason]

||tv time wil return soon||

[leaden glacier]

YAYYYYYYY

[civic mason]

(chaper 3 spilers) ||the knight is so difficult to fight hhhhh||

[leaden glacier]

yeahhh,,,,

[civic mason]

||i only need to win (and save) once||

[leaden glacier]

||i need to start asking mike to do stuff i don’t wanna do. like just yelling to mike. he isn’t even real but it’d be funny to me|| ch3

[civic mason]

wait ||shuld i revive ralsei?||
i ||just finished the first sword attack thing (the one like sans bone attack) an have 1 revive left||

[leaden glacier]

oh question ||who do you have the shadow mantle equipped to||

[civic mason]

||susie||

[leaden glacier]

good job 👍

wrong reply

[leaden glacier]

good job 👍

[civic mason]

||she has the most health (and rude buster!!)||

[leaden glacier]

uhhh you Can ? but ||i’d save it for susie||

[civic mason]

||kris is on 7 health an susie is near-max||
||i culd heal kris||

||actualy ill just make kris defend an let susie cast rudebuster||

(chaper 3 spiler) ||i no-hit that one attack where the knight splits the battle box in 2 pieces but the orientation of the break changes||

(chaper 3 spiler)
||ar yu sure?||

[leaden glacier]

!!!!! GOOD JOB

[civic mason]

||died on circle attack||

also ||shuld i hold breath bc i haven been doing that||

[signal grail]

||it permanently increases your movement speed so it can be worth it, it depends which movement speed you feel more comfortable with||

[civic mason]

||i survived the circle attack!!||

[signal grail]

[civic mason]

||noo i got so close ||

[civic mason]

||o ok||
||ty||

chaper 3 spilkers
||kris thank yu kris||

||i died on diagonal attack||

||i no hit the first 2 attacks tho :D||

[woven tulip]

isn’t it like the main gameplay of deltarune though 💔

tbh idk what could be a better gameplay for turn based rpg.

[dapper shoal]

||But a couple of the knights attacks also rely on your reaction time and holding breath is generally better there||

[dapper shoal]

||How confident are you with the second attack (eye sword thingys)||

[woven tulip]

it always felt kinda not that interesting that in normal rpgs you just click some spell, get damaged and repeat , like no gameplay almost 💔

[dapper shoal]

||can we go back to funny lore puppet man on train||

[civic mason]

||decently confident, i die sometimes but i no hit it ~50%||

[dapper shoal]

||how okay are you by your ability to move during that attack being constricted?||

||also who do you have the mantle on?||

[civic mason]

||if it helps with the other attacks im fine||

[civic mason]

||susie||

[mild hull]

strategy is the gameplay

I like how Chrono Trigger does it; if you dont pick your moves fast enough the enemies will just keep attacking on a cooldown

makes you have to figure out the optimal moves and balance attacks and healing and stuff but also have to think quickly

[woven tulip]

isn’t it kinda defeat the point of turn based thing

[mild hull]

what is "the point", then?

I think turn based is all about maximizing your turn and strategizing the optimal moves; that alteration just adds the element of "think fast or die"

[woven tulip]

the having time to think next move

[mild hull]

deltarune/undertale kinda remove the strategy layer tbh, most encounters follow the same logic

it replaces that engagement with the attacks

honestly I dunno which system I prefer

[dapper shoal]

Deltarune does give some strategy with the addition of TP

[leaden glacier]

personally i don’t think it’s exactly a turn if your enemy can still like. Actively attack but i don’t think there’d be a much better category by the sound of it

[woven tulip]

in undertale you have to figure out which acts to use though

[mild hull]

yeah, I just dont think it scratches the same strategizing itch

undertale does decently well

I expect deltarune will get better at it as the chapters go on; difficulty progression and whatnot

[weary granite]

Yeah, these earlier chapters are fun but dont scratch that difficulty itch yet

[mild hull]

yeah I do like the TP system a lot 🙂

[dapper shoal]

Except for shadow crystal bosses

[weary granite]

Like, dont get me wrong

||The knight was hard, but Its only really one instance||

[weary granite]

Ehhh, even then they dont really feel too difficult

I do enjoy them though

[woven tulip]

but they are harder than undertale bosses?

[broken solstice]

Have you tried out Ribbit or Master Mode mods?

[weary granite]

I am thinking about it

[broken solstice]

Its really fun ngl, had a blast with them

[weary granite]

How hard are they?

[woven tulip]

it might be skill issue . as in that because of you having skill it feels easy

[mild hull]

mostly because once you learn The Thing for an enemy, it becomes rather routine even by the second time you fight that ememy

[broken solstice]

Difficulty is kinda subjective, but they are around a next step to after ch4 difficulty

[leaden glacier]

i’m going to perish if 5’s bosses are harder than 3 or 4’s tbh

[mild hull]

there isnt much thinking happening after the first encounter with any particular deltarune enemy

[woven tulip]

you can win most encounters in 1-2 turns💔

[weary granite]

I was younger then so yeah I wasnt as good

[dapper shoal]

I am fully expecting a Undying style boss for Weird route in chapter 5

[broken solstice]

Ribbit is not that bad past the kaizo-like start, but then engame jist hits a massive difficulty spike (especially what is meant to be jevil)

[weary granite]

Oh neato!

[leaden glacier]

it’s a good thing i don’t play weird route (i don’t have the heart to do that to anyone anymore /silly

[weary granite]

I have a heart...

||And that heart put a thorny ring on a friend|| (Weird route)

[leaden glacier]

(ch2 weird route)

[dapper shoal]

Look I can do the route and feel like absolute shit at the same time :D

[woven tulip]

difficulty is subjective because for me terraria master mode is very easy

[weary granite]

Oh I definitely felt horrible

I do enjoy the route its taking though

[opal grotto]

I didnt have a weird route save set up proper so I watched the new weird route stuff
Safe to say I dont. Wanna do that anymore

[broken solstice]

Calamity is right there if you think something is too easy, just try something harder

[signal grail]

i never used it so i cant say how helpful it is

[dapper shoal]

||taking a new vessel is where I think it's heading||

[leaden glacier]

i’ve heard it made one of my friends feel like. Actually sick. i’m scared

[woven tulip]

right, i should actually play it someday

[weary granite]

Toby did really well with making you feel horrible

[dapper shoal]

If you ever fought sans that's the speed you get

[leaden glacier]

||goner comeback please toby||

[opal grotto]

Yea

[mild hull]

||I am very curious how weird route C5 will go, it seems like that is gonna be the culmination of what we have done thus far|| Weird route c5 speculation

[opal grotto]

Ive felt complete horror at a game very few times in my life

[broken solstice]

||Ch5 feels like a climax in a lot of ways too ngl. Like we should get purified crystal / twisted blade at that point||

[leaden glacier]

i already feel like i’d be a horrible person for ||keeping tenna|| (ch4) i don’t think i could do weird route

[woven tulip]

tbh, ||i feel like the weird route won’t have any better ending than normal route, if different at all||

[dapper shoal]

||oh god we equip twisted sword on Noelle and she becomes the girl from the prophecy||

[weary granite]

||Imo, it creates another interpretation of the prophecy, with instead of the heart getting their original vessel back, they instead use Noelle, making her the vessel of the angel (which is constantly being aluded to us

Her constant angel imagery also imo aludes to this, she is the angels vessel, one we use for purposes we dont know yet || (Ch4 weird route soilers)

[leaden glacier]

WAIT WAIT WAIT QUESTION QUESTION QUESTION ||WHAT DOES ASGORE REFER TI THE CRYSTAL THING AS||

[mild hull]

||black shard||

[heady fossil]

I ||totally forgot you had the choice so I just keep him because he's mine || chapter 3 maybe 4?

[leaden glacier]

spearwrite

[weary granite]

||Its the black shard

Same one as you get for defeating the knight||

[broken solstice]

Reminder that the game will have only 1 ending, as said on Steam page in no uncertain terms. Its just that, as Toby also states, there is something more importmant than reaching the ending

[dapper shoal]

||"perhaps the journey is more important than the ending"||

[mild hull]

*speculative

probably true but not something we can confirm yet technically

could always be a cruel mislead

[dapper shoal]

||weird route doesn't end and instead softlocks you ||

[weary granite]

True, we dont have full confirmation

For all we know ||Its a cracked part of Asgore's sunglasses after falling off the toilet||

[broken solstice]

Chapter 5 spoilers ||Asgore dies in a horrible car crash, and accidentally kills Sans along||

[weary granite]

TRUE!!

THIS IS MY CH5!!!

[woven tulip]

it could be a trick , maybe ending is the same because it’s generally the same thing. like idk "the heroes saved the world", except they could save the world with half of characters dead

[broken solstice]

Yeah same ending but with different meaning is my current headcanon

[weary granite]

It could be a case of the outcome being the same, but the situations are completely different

Basically the two kings fate story I've told yall about before

[woven tulip]

it’s funny in this context ||because you just make everyone suffer in the weird route ||

[dapper shoal]

It's that one ending of SpongeBob

"we did it Patrick we saved bikini bottom!"

[leaden glacier]

would be interesting to me if the ending like. in some way shape or form involves ||getting rid of Us||

[weary granite]

||Theres a good bit of precedent for this

Have you done chapter 4 yet?||

[leaden glacier]

nodnod

[signal grail]

this is exactly the same as undertale neutral ending

frisk leaves the underground but the impact they had on the underground is different each time

[leaden glacier]

||haven’t done anything in castle town at the end though if that’s like. an actual thing you can do ?? nobody confirm or deny but if it is no spoilers please thumbsup||

[woven tulip]

what would it add to the story though, in the normal route it’s not like the player is evil 💔

[leaden glacier]

we’re still kind of possessing someone and ripping their autonomy away even if we don’t have malicious intentions

[weary granite]

||The angel is referred to be us (with the secret prophecy that shows the angel being blacked out, were we see our face through the screen reflection)

The prophecy constantly talks about this angel, with the most important one is to banish the angel's heaven

My assumption is that when the banish happens, our game ends, thus ending our heaven|| (speculation)

[leaden glacier]

oooh inchresting

[woven tulip]

||well, if we were the angel, why we don’t know everything about deltarune ||