we do a little hunting (perseverance rscw??)

[somber notch]

my first playthrough is being done with my friend but i really want to play rain world so i'm also doing solo runs alongside our main playthrough! current slugcat: hunter

slugcats done:
2player run forum: https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1364165912269295636

ok first let me very briefly go over my survivor run

i was just trying to get to 5p and then ascend to unlock hunter so i quickly went industrial > chimney > wall > 5p and then wall > chimney > industrial > drainage (haven't done before) > subterranean and then end
i did find the chimney canopy echo along the way so i did grab that

but besides that a very uneventful run (where i also killed like nothing for some reason)

ok now onto how my current hunter run is going

[somber notch]

my plan was to get to 5p and then sprint to subterranean and then tada boom done but obviously thats not what happened

thank u again ruffles :D

i did bring the green neuron with me just in case but i got there (achievement get: helping hand) and then 5p effectively tells me to go to lttm and only gives me like 2 extra karma levels or something so the plan for the run is out the window

[supple oracle]

:nikoLurk:

[somber notch]

the niko is lurking

im ngl i did use a map to plan how to get to lttm because im hunter i only got 21 cycles (cuz 5p gave some) and also no WAY im dealing with pitch black shaded citadel with that time limit

i luckily recorded my run this time so maybe ill grab some crazy moments in there to show u guys but i was going through it trying to get to shoreline

shoreline itself was pretty easy and then i get to her and she's a little sad bean so i give the neuron and woohoo its how we find her during survivor TIMELINE LORE YAY (achievement get: a new friend)

currently i've found i think just the wall's echo (so my max karma is 8) and i only have 8 cycles left so this current run is probably dead but my plan is to go on my previously mentioned survivor run and find echoes for me to get now

i am curious as to what would happen if i went back to 5p at this point but that's like really far and i really don't have much time now so i don't know if that's a good idea

my hope would be that now that i kinda fixed lttm 5p gives me 10 karma and i can SUPER speedrun down to attempt to ascend but if theyre just like "thank you little guy" and thats all then runs dead dead

also i think hunter spawns already having the communication dot? cuz 5p didnt do the whole thing where they give one so next run i could probably just sprint to lttm if i need to

dinner break tho and then i'll start looking for echoes

hopefully there's one in every area or im going to go insane in one of them

[supple oracle]

have nice dinner

[somber notch]

i do have one moment that i remembered to clip so here's that

[somber notch]

actually i do have some clips from that first survivor run so maybe it wasnt that uneventful. here are those

• in between first and second clips i learned like a billion movement tech lol
• (2) has a watermark because the usual way i find them without it didnt work
• (3) is just context for how hard it was to move in (2) lol
• (4) I GET PINGED IN IT TWICE THOSE ARENT YOUR PINGS
• (5) i mean i wanted to throw a little bit of movement stuff in there teehee

[somber notch]

wait i know memory crypts doesnt have one becuase its so linear i would have seen it

maybe its based on how the passage map separates it instead but then that would mean nowhere else connected to the wall has one which seems ridiculous and also five pebbles would still have to have one and i highly doubt that

[somber notch]

alrighty the search for echoes begins

so theres a spider in my filtration system den from before i beat the game and i think it just duplicated when i tried to kill it

dang yeah this thing is unkillable

i stab it like 4 times and then it just expldoes into a bunch of tiny spiders that devour me

aaand it jumped through the wall

ok finally managed to shelter so i guess ill start looking in outskirts

[somber notch]

idk how these cutscenes are triggered but its interesting theres still more that happen after youve already ascended

[somber notch]

through the power of a squidcada and ctv ive gone backwards through the tutorial and NO WAY THERES A WHOLE AREA BACK HERE

idk how ur supposed to get here normally but i guess i might find out soon

overseer are you sure thats the closest shelter

ok well its cool thats there but i totally thought that would be where the echo is

[somber notch]

though i still have no idea how youre supposed to get there so i guess that makes sense

ok im pretty sure ive explored all of outskirts and theres no echo so thats great

onto industrial complex i guess idk

[ripe trench]

you’re not technically meant to go backwards through there but it doesn’t exist for no reason either

[somber notch]

gahhhhh

the only places in that area i havent fully explored are like

its not really a hole cuz its above you but those

where theres some opening that reaches the surface but you cant get up there

i wouldve brought the squidcada but it got stuck under the platform when i finally got up

welllllll there was a pink pearl there i did grab

maybe ur talking about that and thats a unique pearl for lttm to read

i dont wanna go all the way to shoreline right now tho so later

i mean if ur not supposed to go backwards and theres most definitely not a way to fall in there in outskirts so

my guess for now is theres some way to get some slugcat to start back there

maybe its when youre playing with slugpups or something idk

[somber notch]

i'll revisit it with a squidcada at some point but for now i got no clue

[ripe trench]

there’s not much excitement to be found there

[somber notch]

gh...

i mean i Know i saw everywhere else in there so i guess its whatever that pearl says

bioengineering

[somber notch]

no echo in industrial complex either as far as i can tell

im only missing one blue unlockable thing tho but ill get that later

for now i guess garbage wastes

[somber notch]

ok are the dreams just random why would i get this in garbage wastes

also again explored a LOT of garbage wastes and still nothing

a lot of the unexplored parts are leech infested deep underwater sections so like what can ya do

i feel like at this point i must be missing something though

[hallow bolt]

Searching for echoes?

Good luck in that

How many do you know of so far?

[somber notch]

the ones ive seen are the wall, shaded citadel, farm arrays, and chimney canopy

im trying to find them to see if i can save my current hunter run but unless the echoes decide to activate without having to shelter right after seeing them i dont think itll be possible cuz im only at 8 cycles

yknow i didnt mention it before but this achievement ratio is weird is it not

that also just brought back a thought i had for what happens if you succumb to your illness like next to lttm or pebbles

but then id have to throw the whole run so maybe i try that later

[hallow bolt]

Only 10.9% of players have ever completed survivor so I'm unsurprised if that's the percentage for Helping Hand

[somber notch]

the weird thing to me is the relation of them to eachother

helpng hand is for visiting 5p on hunter but then new friend is for bringing the green neuron to lttm

[hallow bolt]

That's not what new friend is for

[somber notch]

Gwhat

[hallow bolt]

New friend is just meeting lttm

[somber notch]

ooohh

[hallow bolt]

Which is easy to do

[somber notch]

i frogot i didnt get the achievement in multiplayer for some reason

and then didnt go to lttm on that survivor run

no achievement for "reviving" lttm is Peculiar tho

[hallow bolt]

Helping Hand is for reviving lttm technically

It's shared between the pair

Visiting either-or will give it

[somber notch]

ah yes u can perform a final charitable act without performing a final charitable act

little break but back to garbage wastes gaming

probably moving on soon tho cuz ive explored the majority of it

[somber notch]

ok yeah onto drainage system

no way these bubble plants actually just give water breathing

hmm...

ok not infinitely but u can also store them in ur stomach so

could be interesting for this one area i saw a while ago that looked an AWFUL LOT like five pebbles interior place

alright what the hell is The Gutter

are we so serious

made it lol (obviously went the long way around)

but yeah this place is weird theres like Sludge

id imagine the only other place this is connected to is like maybe subterranean

[somber notch]

and weird glowing radioactive lizards or something

i dont think im getting out of this one boys

i did manage to get in that tunnel before i went back here but it was raining so hard i wouldve died in like 2 seconds

ima stop for now but that place is very interesting i have no idea where it is in relation to the world

i mean it would make sense for it to just be under garbage wastes because theres scavengers there and it connects to drainage which connects to wastes

but drainage also connected straight to outskirts so maybe its under industiral

it would be pretty funny if an echo "decided' (i dont think they get to decide) to stay in The Gutter of all places

three of the four ive seen have chosen scenic rooms where no enemies can show up and that lead to nowhere (farm arrays being the exception) and a lot of these areas dont have very scenic rooms besides like industrial complex random bat skytowers

[ripe trench]

the gutter has stinky smell eminating from it (i think based on the colors of the subregion) of course the lizards are radioactive

[somber notch]

its kinda weird garbage wastes is the only region ive seen that changes the colors of tunnels when this place is even more dirty

[ripe trench]

it could be that all regions have unique tunnel colors but garbage wastes' is just the most noticiable

[somber notch]

oh

well garbage wastes is the only one that really deviates from white idk

[ripe trench]

its just a theory on my part idk if its true or not :>

[somber notch]

oh oops

[somber notch]

ITS JUST CHIMNEY CANOPY??

literally never wouldve got that

how did i just never go down here

cuz its a SECRET PIPE of course

[ripe trench]

also msc exclusive area

[somber notch]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[somber notch]

i mean obviously i would think rivulet at first but im pretty sure thats a different area ive seen a bit of

i guess nothings stoppig them from just adding areas not related to a slugcat but

invisible wall of doom???

[somber notch]

its so secret it still counts as a den a caramel lizard came out of it as soon as i went in

[somber notch]

oh come on

i just spent so long trying to kill one of the radioactive lizards to get dragon slayer and it just counts as another green lizard

there was this giant spider terrorizing me the whole time too what the heck

well since thats just chimney canopy again im gonna passage to like

i mean i guess shoreline?...

very unsuccessful echo searching we got here

i havent even been to shoreline on this save yet lol

[somber notch]

like i saw this earlier but like HOW is this not the echo spot

theres just nothing on the right side either

thanks overseer for just lying about a shelter being over there

what the heck is sump tunnel???

i didnt knwo where to go so i was just zoomin around with a jetfish and saw a water centipede for the first time that was cool

but then i just fin danother gate

i forgot to eat earlier there better be food

song ive never heard before playing as well

albino jetfish! isnt this part of a rwsc challenge

idk how u do that one on anyone but hunter cuz these guys are HEAVCY

oh this is just subterranean isnt it

i guess thats how the challenge came about

ok well im not too interested in exploring that if its literally just going to subterranean

kinda weird theres shoreline > drainage > subterranean and also shoreline > subterranean

[somber notch]

uhhhhh

if i lose my jetfish its so over

unfortunately i think i know where this is and this most definitely rivulet stuff

luckily i just got the monk so i can passage out if i get truly softlocked

this place has orange tunnels too like garbage wastes what

oh theres jetfish everywhere

Submerged Superstructure

WHAT

its designed to be navigable without rivulet but like barely

this is insane

dang there are not many shelters around here

and theres also radioactive lizards in here i got jumpscared

finally found ashelter and its on the surface

[somber notch]

im pulling out every single stop to get through this

[somber notch]

we do a little planning (for hunter)

i know this doesnt really count as planning for hunter anymore but im not gonna go and say Yeah i havent beaten survivor yet Lol

im just getting a bit sidetracked you could say

anyway ive been fighting the movement tech demons for like over an hour and i still didnt get the jump but im gonna sleep now

its this thing #movement message

im definitely not supposed to be in here at this point because i have to do an eihop every cycle right now

maxmorpher go to sleep at a reasonable time challenge goodnight

[ripe trench]

very interesting path you’ve found

small info for the area - ||you probably will have to go back out the gate you came in, you are more than welcome to keep exploring it but i figured this would save you some headache when you want to leave||

[somber notch]

i finally made it and there isnt even anything there :))

here's the jump tho

[somber notch]

these are like the only two areas left to explore in this like "rooms" area and theyre obviously annoying cuzi have to find bubble plants before getting to them

for anywhere else i need to go all the way back to the area where instead of rooms its just like caverns

[somber notch]

yeah thats why i have a passage ready cuz idk if i would even be able to get back there. idk what im really hoping for by exploring except for maybe reaching that entrance above moon but even then there isnt really a point so idk

[somber notch]

ok i was kind of figuring out how to get around because there was an area close to my current shelter with bubble plants and then i just run into this crap

i got up to that corner using a full bubble plant and having 2 out at once is useless and you cant take things out of your stomach underwater

i would have to like use up an entire bubble plant and then have a jetfish be in the perfect spot for me to use it

[somber notch]

yeah im gonna try to passage now like

this place is still awesome but ive run into most of the dead ends now

[ripe trench]

it’s probably the hardest area to traverse as survivor

but it’s up to opinion as always

[somber notch]

OH THAT WAS PIPEYARD

thanks passage menu

idk if i wanna navigate through water pipes and tunnels with black lizards hoping theres an echo tho

crazy how in this search for echoes ive found literally none

surely you can get echoes after having already ascended or hit 10 karma

i passaged to garbage wastes but the tunnel i thought i didnt explore was just a shelter

the only place i havent explored here is like arti spawn but its obviously really hard to get around over there and i already know it doesnt really go anywhere

[somber notch]

chieftain achievement get

also learned that the echo symbol in front of the echo room disappears once you get it cuz i was in chimney canopy again

[somber notch]

sky islands is probably my favorite area aesthetically and its annoying cuz literally like 1 in 5 rooms looks scenic enough to be an echo

[somber notch]

again like

kinda weird this place has a unique name but is only like 3 rooms long

[somber notch]

probably about done for today (random clips time)

i havent fully explored sky islands yet but a lot of the remaining area ive seen on hunter

so its kinda wild i havent found the echo

its annoying theres so many unique pearls everywhere because it would take so long to bring them all the way to lttm

like there was a black-blue one at communication arrays and then a black-green one at some random dead end in that big open area with the two trusses (where i was in that third clip)

in completely unrelated news i reached 100 hours yipee

[ripe trench]

probably has a loreful reason

[somber notch]

anything that seems particularly weird is lore

[somber notch]

achievement get outlaw

not really sure what the requirement is maybe just killing stuff

wha

i foudn where the sky islands echo is last cycle and it did the blue timewarp effect thingy so then i sheltered and come back and Nothing Happens

some of them are real picky i guess

but then i shelter by the farm arrays gate and then it works

Droplets upon Five Large Droplets

[echo remnant]

[somber notch]

what is this room???

i wanna get a squidcada to jump on the little tiny tiles

oh thats interesting i hit a blue lziard with a rock and then a noodlefly stabbed the crap out of it

and it counted as my kill

all these jumps need like ctvs

hopefully u can ctv on a single tile

[somber notch]

you can and i got to the second tile up there but there was a vulture

so i gotta redo it

[echo remnant]

wtf

ctving in a first playthrough

[somber notch]

oh this isnt first playthrough of survivor

[echo remnant]

I mean, still

[somber notch]

lol

[echo remnant]

I have 400 hours and have ctved exactly zero times

[somber notch]

im unfortunately a movement nerd at heart

i have like 300 hours in celeste

i am pause buffering for these cuz holding a squidcada makes them real annoying

[echo remnant]

ah ok

[somber notch]

here's that attempt while i go find another squidcada cuz i ended up killing the vulture and wanted to store its mask

[somber notch]

ok what

[echo remnant]

I never knew there was a second screen to this room

huh

[somber notch]

see like why would they put a second screen if youre never meant to be up there....

[echo remnant]

[somber notch]

idk all i can think of is this is somehow for arti

[echo remnant]

I wonder...

[hallow bolt]

[somber notch]

ok its a bit weird you didnt know there was a second screen but then also know why they would put a second screen

gaaahhhh

[echo remnant]

I mean, they certainly didn't intend you to ctv with squidcadas up there

[somber notch]

im walking a new path of just silliness i guess

i mean like what the heck is that

theres other tiles over there but i dont think there's a screen transition so like

maybe theres somewhere super high u fall from down here

idk how much there is left to explore in sky islands tho so

[hallow bolt]

Quite cursed

It makes sense to Those Who Know

[somber notch]

yeah thats become quite apparent

[hallow bolt]

It's just pretty weird and not a side to it we've normally seen

It does go without saying that there's nothing of value here for you right now though, at least

[somber notch]

yea lmao

[somber notch]

of course the one room i missed is actually just a frickin scav merchant

dang it i posted it in movement cuz its funny and someone said somethign about saint

that would make sense cuz tongue grapple gaming

i looked twice its joever

i mean thats not really that big of a spoilers but it wouldve been nice to not know

[hallow bolt]

[somber notch]

in other news im pretty sure ive completely explored sky islands at this poinbt

all sandbox unlocks and the echo so like

and no untaken tunnels

[hallow bolt]

Ah you did find the echo

[somber notch]

this whole time ive been searching for echoes and this is the first one ive found

[hallow bolt]

Good to hear

It's a start hahah

[somber notch]

ima go to pipeyard next because i totally forgot the area exists

[hallow bolt]

Have you kept a checklist of regions for that?

[somber notch]

i mean not really a physical checklist but i probably should

that would imply there's one in every region

which is weird because ive fully searched outskirts and industrial and never found them so yipee

[hallow bolt]

How many there are shall remain a guarded secret

[somber notch]

guarded by the hidden achievements on steam

i wont look at them

i wrote the ones ive found earlier lemme find it

the wall, shaded citadel, farm arrays, chimney canopy, and now sky islands

[hallow bolt]

Good progress

[somber notch]

this place is like all centipedes my goodness

the centipedes dont even care about a vulture mask bru theyre menaces

[somber notch]

yea idk how much i like pipeyard

so far its either vulture hell or centipede hell or black lizard hell

i just found the gate to subterranean like cool i Guess but

[manic flax]

so you know how to do ctv's right?

[somber notch]

yup

[manic flax]

you should try this

i wouldn't recommend to go to that channel as there may be spoilers so i sent it here

[manic flax]

if you want to do it, there are important settings you need to enable/disable first

[somber notch]

i was thinking about starting to do rwsc some time soon cuz of all this movement tech i got so yeah ill probably do that tomorrow!

i might try u turn too but maybe its harder than it looks

[somber notch]

i got up at 7:30 for something because i read an email wrong so i guess its time for this now

wow i have a lot of these settings off it almost feels weird to turn them on now

well its allowed not required so ill leave like a few off like kill squad leniency

come and get me muahahaha

[manic flax]

you do have to disable the dlc for this challenge

[somber notch]

yea

how does that work when im like

oh wait nvm i just go on a different save slot

"jellyfish are vulnerable to being stabbed" they werent before??

i didnt even know about the survivor passage thing

setting that just makes red lizards even more op

ive literally only seen 2 ever theyre so rare

alright i should be good but just in case heres setting (and also i turned on speedrun validation)

[manic flax]

seems fine

[somber notch]

(and also i turned off msc lol)

[manic flax]

monk extra breath/light have been allowed recently
just so yk if you do some challenges as monk

[somber notch]

i guess i should turn those on cuz its not like im gunna be doing a normal monk run

also i can have input display mod right

[ripe trench]

I don’t think it’s in the allow list

[somber notch]

gasp

[ripe trench]

I don’t see a problem with having an external one though

[somber notch]

i think its fine

[ripe trench]

guess i misremember

[somber notch]

no worries lol

[ripe trench]

Easiest way to get the question answered is to check directly

[somber notch]

well thats the challenge done i think time to edit the clip lol

tada lemme go find the format to post it in vsc

oh its a google form i thought u just posted it in the channel lol

thats just for talking about them i guess

[ripe trench]

You can post it there so you can link to the media in the form

And/or just share it with others there

[somber notch]

trying to remember how to turn on the old discord numbers in username thing for the first question

[ripe trench]

enable developer mode in settings

[somber notch]

no not the id thing the

cuz mines like maxmorpher*#6230* or something

[ripe trench]

You don’t need the numbers anymore, it appears it’s just outdated

[somber notch]

oh

[ripe trench]

There is a badge on my profile that says it but im not sure how to enable that anymore

[somber notch]

oh it has to be a discord link oki

i guess thats why people post them there too

well i guess i could use this one but thats no fun

[somber notch]

meant to reply

difficulty rating...

[ripe trench]

The form votes on that directly tie into the ratings on the sheet

[somber notch]

i mean objectively its pretty hard but because i already learned how to ctv before even like trying it and i 1shot it in less than 5 minutes...

jeepers

i gotta be honest and say 1 but that feels so wrong lmao

i cant be the only one who did that so its probably fine

[ripe trench]

You’re essentially rating how hard it is to perform ctvs

[somber notch]

i probably wouldve put something higher than 1 with that in mind but i already submitted it

"if you used a creature to get up, give it a name!"

wait so this is like

[somber notch]

when i did this?

[ripe trench]

yes but there is no area in vanilla

[somber notch]

ohp

ok just the place up there i fall from

gotta restart tho cuz its full cycle this time

oh wait i have to shelter first

[ripe trench]

You don’t have to restart your save for that one

Depending on how you go about it you may not want to

[somber notch]

should i put the full cycle recording in an unlisted yt vid or something

cuz thats gonna be too long to just send an mp4 of

[ripe trench]

That’s probably the easiest way unless you have a different video host you prefer

[somber notch]

oh the rain starts once u pass the chargehop what

i kinda forgot about that

last time i didnt eat yet to stall it

the squidcadas that are usually here just like arent here

awkward

ohp here they are

done

i feel kinda bad for reviewer cuz i spent like 6 minutes just looking for the squidcadas lol

oh right i have to name it

madeline because celeste

https://youtu.be/HSfBbkQF2hM skip to like 5:30 for when i get the squidcada and then like 8:10 for when i get to tutorial area

see now im confused again because sometimes it can be verified like this but then if this can just happen i shouldnt fill out th eform right

jk ive been informed that u just fill out the form every time

[ripe trench]

sunhat

[somber notch]

ok this gets a 2 because i have to be in line with that previous rating of 1 but also squidcadas are finnicky

na 3 that last jump was hard when i did it the first ti me

just learned what lineaging is

totally thought i was gonna get spoilered but thats not rly spoilers

ok i had to look up what a noodlefly egg was cuz i didnt know thats what those were

finding 7 of those seems hard but i guess theres a map fo rthat

[ripe trench]

hunter challenge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816610572262178826/1349252124386660352/mcdonalds.gif

[somber notch]

yipee im gren

apparently im like slightly cooler for doing ctvs so yipee

[supple oracle]

[somber notch]

water flow you literally just turned purple lmao

ok set up a little spreadsheet to keep track of what ive done lets see what else there is

[ripe trench]

Oh yeah using a black squid is added aura

[supple oracle]

now do broadcast

[ripe trench]

incorrect buzzer

pilgrimag

[manic flax]

perchance

[somber notch]

so its either run for your life from a vulture or run for your life from a cyan lizard

i didnt notice pilgrimage starts at OUTSKIRTS that sounds so hard

[supple oracle]

while juggling an annoying thing the entire way

[somber notch]

yea the little dingus

[ripe trench]

The cyan lizard isn’t who you would be running from

[somber notch]

oh right the frickin memory crypts part

well all the parts are dangerous we got dll in there too maybe

i might do u turn next cuz its right here

[supple oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1368074403262365857/1368074404340170762/2603_puter.gif

[somber notch]

in theory the route is u turn then run to sky islands and do flytrap and then broadcast

unless theres something in farm arrays i can do

[supple oracle]

i did flytrap by accident during broadcast

flytrap is pretty easy to do accidentally

[somber notch]

oh that mustve been funny

wait what if you tame the cyan lizard in pilgrimage

does that work

i havent actually tamed a lizard before lol

[supple oracle]

||that’s how you’re supposed to do it ||

[somber notch]

what degree of spoilers is that

[supple oracle]

spoilers for the challenge i guess

[somber notch]

i meaaaaan

ima look

ok yeah

it would kinda crazy to get through memory crypts without that now that i think about it

time for u turn tho lemme get over there

[supple oracle]

u turn is mainly difficult because of one semi obscure tech

[ripe trench]

You have to tame it

[somber notch]

i think ive watched someone do u turn before but i probably dont remember what that tech is so lets see if i can figure it out lol

[supple oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295244891559034922/1372672170118877194/BRockPuter.gif

[somber notch]

oo it says IGT so i can use paused buffered ctv

are you allowed to like start with items in the shelter

[supple oracle]

don’t think so but i’m unsure

[somber notch]

we're finding the strats

that's gonna suck to hit in the run but its faster so what can ya do...

wait can you like set up your run by placing rocks and spears in certain locations

now that i say that can you preemptively stab a spear in the wall

i was just thinking like putting them in convenient spots to pick up at first

[manic flax]

you can

spear embeds in particular were allowed a few days ago

[somber notch]

lmao

[ripe trench]

If you take the time to do it you can reuse that setup multiple times if you want to

[somber notch]

ok i think i know what i need to do now cuz this SPLICED NOT REAL THEORETICAL run is ~5 seconds behind and there's some parts like the eihop pole bounce and the room before that (and the room before that too) that i didnt do correctly

[ripe trench]

cheating?!?!?!?

[somber notch]

GASP

these green lizards are ON me this cycle tho idk if i can do it rn

[manic flax]

nice movement

I've never figured out eijumps

[somber notch]

you just gotta be really fast with the throw into jump its weird

cuz every frame u havent jumped u lose like so much of the momentum

i will say these green lizards are making it a PAIN to set up

has someone included jumping off a lizard for extra speed in u turn

[ripe trench]

likely if the lizzy lines up properly

[somber notch]

maybe it works if its dead but then youd end up lineaging it by accident or something lmao

[manic flax]

only rocks and spears can be used for movement

[somber notch]

oh right

imagine ur run gets ruined by a lizard deciding to walk in the wrong spot

[ripe trench]

💔

[manic flax]

that's why you do the prep

[somber notch]

lizard proceeds to walk in the wrong spot:
idk if thats actually why i went so far but i missed the pole

[somber notch]

best attempt yet and its cut short by the rain https://medal.tv/games/rain-world/clips/knWLqnnIFhk8A3jzq?invite=cr-MSw3b3csNTI4MzUzMTQ

i gotta post the clip cuz for some reason the actual file is like 150mb

these lizards are an absolute pain bro i can barely even set up

[manic flax]

then do something with lizards

[somber notch]

maybe i shouldnt be talking about this in the first playthroughs forum but like idk

rwsc forum when

[manic flax]

many people use their fp threads to talk about rwsc's

[somber notch]

oh oki

[somber notch]

-_- https://medal.tv/games/rain-world/clips/knXhutSIUGi541Qfb?invite=cr-MSxHSUYsNTI4MzUzMTQ

for sure getting it today tho

just realized i dont think i muted my mic audio so you'll hear me very mad i forgot to leave a rock for the eihop pole obunce

[manic flax]

why don't you roll after doing the first eijump and jumping from the pole?

[somber notch]

i forgot to that tim elol

[manic flax]

your movement is already good, i think all you need is just small details like that one and you got it

[somber notch]

for sure yea

and also remembering to set up properly

its also really hard to boost out of some of these tunnels

[manic flax]

u-turn as the third submission would be awesome

[somber notch]

cuz theyre really short so you have to do it like as soon as the screen transition

im totally going for that it is pretty funny

hehe i did the username thing

[somber notch]

https://medal.tv/games/rain-world/clips/knYbBnFbLcX0s4Tia?invite=cr-MSxwWWEsNTI4MzUzMTQ

if there was like one less mistake i wouldve gotten that

if i didnt mess up the roll pounce or if i remembered how the eihop pole bounce has to be set up or if that frickin lizard wasnt in the way

[somber notch]

i think i got it (edit: yea i did ) https://medal.tv/games/rain-world/clips/knYVh60JH09y_pjkv?invite=cr-MSw3SHAsNTI4MzUzMTQ

start time 2:48:44:247 end time 2:49:43:173
should be a 59.074 around about

[manic flax]

i just noticed. i should've told you to get the u-turn timer mod so it'd be easier to measure time

[supple oracle]

are spear embeds allowed

[somber notch]

i really hope so

i mean they should be but i dunno

[supple oracle]

oh they are

fun

[manic flax]

uuuh wait
might contain spoilers

[somber notch]

oop

[manic flax]

it basically says embeds are allowed

[somber notch]

ok well i saw that was 4 days ago lmao

totally intentional great timing

[manic flax]

congrats on u-turn

[somber notch]

yipeee

now im an even BLUEer green

is the den that thing in the bottom right i didnt even notice it

i cant really denboost tho so idk if it wouldve mattered

nop

[somber notch]

just discovered that pressing space while in a POUNCE will jump but not normally

[somber notch]

ok i gotta go do something for an hour but i do wanna get back onto actually trying to beat hunter

and i saw this challenge and i kinda [had] no idea how its possible (until i looked at the notes and remembered getting an echo doesnt cycle you)

oh they give you literally a single cycle nevermind what the

i mean i guess same thing but like no mistakes at all

[ripe trench]

With how well you did uturn I think it’s within your grasp with enough perserverance

[somber notch]

knee slapper

that does mean more echo searching tho...

which means more pipeyard hell

honestly im probably just gonna dip out of there cuz i dont think im going all the way up there on that 8 cycle hunter save

wait it would be SO FUNNY if i did perseverance as my first hunter win

i dont wanna look up where echoes are tho so its so much searching

that would mean playing on vanilla which is a lil bit different asnd also NOT A DOWNPOUR FIRST PLAYTHROUGH >:)) but

[ripe trench]

You can always search for them on surv/monk if you want to

[somber notch]

yea i just gotta go back to what i was doing before

[somber notch]

industrial complex connects to pipeyard too???

not sure how i never went in that pipe

maybe i should search industrial more

na but then i look at the map and theres just no more rooms to go to

but clearly im missing the echo so idk

[hallow bolt]

It's a pretty connected travel hub

[somber notch]

actually im missing an industrial collectible so the search continues i guess

i mean outskirts industrial and pipeyard are all literally in the center of the map so i guess it makes snese

ok wait these pipes are cheating

i swear the ones that are connected to pipeyard are like turning normal after ive gone through them but before that they were hidden

unless i really just forgot to go in two pipes somehow and didnt see either of them on the map

[somber notch]

wait no im not what

that must be a pipeyard one and i forgot i got sent back there when i died

[somber notch]

unless the shoreline echo is at lttm i have no idea where it could be

i dont even wanna passage there cuz that would be like the only place i could check

nah lttm is tiny there isnt even room for one

had to switch to hunter map cuz i havent been there this survivor run

[somber notch]

oh do grapple worms not work in 0g :/

[echo remnant]

they do not

[somber notch]

and then he proceeds to go do it on his own

if you hate me just say it

[somber notch]

since when did pole plants decide to attack you when you dont even grab them

[somber notch]

yea i have no idea i literally checked every room

[ripe trench]

Sometimes the plant is just spicy

[ripe trench]

Do you want a hint?

[somber notch]

hmmmmmmmm

[ripe trench]

probably an unhelpful one

[somber notch]

i mean sure then lol

[ripe trench]

there is no echo in outskirts

[somber notch]

very helpful but also Guh

kinda makes sense i guess cuz new player runs into echo and theyre like ????

[ripe trench]

you did say you checked every room 🙃

[somber notch]

well maybe i was just blind

[ripe trench]

what echos have you found again

[somber notch]

the wall, farm arrays, sky islands, shaded citadel, chimney canopy

[ripe trench]

ahh I see

[somber notch]

yknow i said i checked every room in industrial too and im pretty sure outskirts doesnt have one because its where survivor spawns so like

i couldve very well just been blind

[ripe trench]

||the echo you’re missing is in a sneaky spot that is easy to miss||

tiny hint 🤏

not that helpful but I can’t think of a good way to say without just revealing it

[somber notch]

yeah thats the trouble with these i guess

i kinda have an idea of what an echo room should look like at this point tho so that helps a bit

most outskirts rooms wouldnt even have space fo rone anyway

[ripe trench]

they don’t follow a pattern always

[somber notch]

i guess i have heard of ones in multiple screen long rooms which was kinda one of the thing i was thinking about there

lemme make sure ive actually seen all the rooms here before looking at that hint

why are the code acronym things for regions like that im having a hard time remembering them

like outskirts is SU??? what??

[ripe trench]

the hint doesn’t reveal its location unless you have really good map knowledge and even then it’s ehhh

[somber notch]

ok yeah im quite confident ive seen all of the rooms

hmmmmmmm

[ripe trench]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/907051014182547536/1001946266286170232/boof.gif

[somber notch]

i dont think any echo ive seen has been indoors but that kinda has to be possible because subterranean

i mean that echo symbol ive seen on the outsides and also insides of the echo room is like

is it there all the time or does it only show up once that first thing happens

[ripe trench]

after you visit the echo it disappears

[somber notch]

so if i was looking harder i wouldve seen it already....

bioengineering is here to cheer me up

[somber notch]

too busy killing lizards to search bro wth

[somber notch]

i was gonna put a bunch of places that i would totally think could have the echo but just didnt (to my knowledge) but that friend im doing the 2 player run with brought up a good question

are some echoes exclusive to certain characters

[manic flax]

find out

[somber notch]

if im having this hard of a time finding a single echo i dont wanna do the same thing when there literally isnt an echo to find

and also yeah go find every echo on TWO characters just to make sure :)))) like

[manic flax]

I don't want to spoil

[somber notch]

i mean i GUESS yeah but this feels a bit different

oh wait unless theres like

a character that cant get echoes at all

i really dont wanna end up searching for an echo i just cant find tho idk

but yeah u cant say anything because then it reveals that one of the characters cant get certain echoes or maybe even all them so

DANG IT bro

ok well that better not be the case on survivor at least come on its the base character

[somber notch]

flow chart for why i dont think that question can be answered

better than trying to type it in 15 incoherent sentences

[somber notch]

another suspect

[manic flax]

i can give you a more direct hint

[somber notch]

i do feel a bit bad for wanting the hint but like ive been searching for like over an hour...

and maybe im just blind but i havent seen the echo symbol yet

go ahead

like this whole rooms feels like it would be a cool place for it but na

actually there is that thing that like where the echo is is somehow tied to it

that i learned from the cc echo

or the farm arrays one idk

[manic flax]

go west

[somber notch]

great timing cuz im basically as east as you can get in industrial

makes the hint more vague which i kinda want

gotta eihop tho

it is annoying i havent figured out the activating thing yet cuz that would make this a lot easier

instead i gotta look for this one symbol im apparently bad at seeing

god im gonna have the worst time on the inv puzzle

would've been funny if you meant this far west and there was some secret area over here

[somber notch]

suspiciously echo shaped square

maxmorpher can NOT find waldo

[manic flax]

by 'west' i meant like west west

[somber notch]

i mean what that leaves like these 7 rooms unless it also counts just west on the map adding like 3 rooms going to GW gate (ones in the back are going to pipeyard so thats downpour)

obviously u cant say anything im just writing thoughts

i feel like ive searched these 10 times already but time for 11 i guesxs

and of course i check all those and see literally nothing

[somber notch]

im going to sleep i dunno

at this point i gotta be doing something wrong

if u have to be at max karma thats annoying but ive definitely gone through these rooms at max karma

[ripe trench]

you’re not doing anything wrong, just not in the right place

[hallow bolt]

The older name for outskirts was Suburban

[ripe trench]

[somber notch]

[manic flax]

some internal acronyms are different

[echo remnant]

So, for example, outskirts used to be called "SubUrban"

Hence the acronym SU

(Code acronyms are dumb, all my homies simply use OS)

[manic flax]

internal acronyms are used way more tbf. you probably have to memorize them at some point because they're commonly used in spoiler and challenges chats

[echo remnant]

Nahhhhh

Just go into downpour spoilers dropping the "S" region acronym

[manic flax]

i do think in some channels local acronyms should be used for accessibility

[somber notch]

welcome back to concussion simulator (looking for echoes)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/824027398948782180/1375268359712669716/slugbraininjury.gif

[ripe trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315662587563868210/1315665457318985728/17590_BLL.gif

i have a feeling this echo is gonna be sitting and waiting for awhile as they do

[somber notch]

how come they can like float and they still decide to just sit around

floating would be pretty cool

[somber notch]

wait did that mean im searching in the completely wrong area or is it just cuz im bad at searching

its been a whole hour again oml

farmed to max karma and ive gone through most rooms again so its not that

theyre too picky

there's just not that many rooms what do you want from me

[manic flax]

i told you: west west

[echo remnant]

westwestwestwestwest

[somber notch]

you can polehop on vertical poles??

pretty hard tho

i was gonna make a joke about going all the way west over the gate but i already tried that

i guess im literally blind cuz im not finding the symbol so i gotta figure out how to make it wanna appear

[somber notch]

i accidentally lineaged a cyan

ok a vulture got him but i had to run across like the whole map

also i tried like sheltering in outskirts and then coming back or something but obviously nothing

there isnt that much west sprinkles u gotta help me

i lineaged a centipede too its the end times

[somber notch]

ok i guess he cant eat turtles

a second cyan has arrived

idk if theres anything here they can eat

[somber notch]

alright im literally gonna speedrun to chimney canopy on my rwsc slot to figure out how they actviate

this is ridiculous

alright that didnt help at all

i literally just entered the echo room and it did the thing for when you enter the echo room

wasnt even max karma

[somber notch]

bioengineering for the 6th time

the symbol for me to reference that was in front of the chimney canopy one

thjat doesnt seem to be there for all of them though i dont think it was there for sky islands

was there for shaded tho so idk

[somber notch]

did a blue lizard lineage into a TENTACLE??

did multiple???

vulture just got snatched by a tentacle

[hallow bolt]

Wait have you been searching and researching industrial complex this whole time

[somber notch]

i mean basically yeah

i just cant find the symbol and it wont trigger

[hallow bolt]

Why??

[somber notch]

i wish i knew

[hallow bolt]

At this point it's more than safe to be given the hint that no, there is no echoes in industrial complex

Get outta there

[somber notch]

...

???

[hallow bolt]

Yes, west

Of the world

Not the region

[somber notch]

sneaky spot YEAH IT DOESNT EXIST oh my glorb

[hallow bolt]

Did you think every region has one

[somber notch]

i mean i knew outskirts didnt cuz i got told that earlier

i guess it kinda makes sense it extends to industrial but come on...

[hallow bolt]

I'm seeing that it's been revealed to you already that you only have 1 echo left

[somber notch]

oh wai

i didnt know thats what that phrasing meant oh my goodness

[hallow bolt]

That's a pretty big indicator that not every region has a resident echo, because there's way more than 6 regions

[somber notch]

i saw in the perseverance rwsc it said collect all 6 echoes but i decided to ignore it because i assumed that just meant u needed that many to reach k10 and that there were more in further regions

well i guess good to know...

but i think i know which region the last one is in already

wait i thought downpour added a few more

[hallow bolt]

I hope none of this is flaggable as too much info but seeing you've been drilling Industrial Complex for days in a row you were overdue for a helping hand

[hallow bolt]

New echoes were added in downpour. But that's another beast entirely.

[somber notch]

ok yeah

[hallow bolt]

These 6 are the ones available to you in survivor

You'll discover the roles of the others as you play through the msc campaigns eventually

[somber notch]

i dont have a subterranean shelter thats outside of filtration system...

ill just go through farm arrays bro im not dealing with that rn

yep right back to the stupid deer ai

[somber notch]

first try??

i dont think that had the symbol on the outside but it doesnt rly matter

lore drop theyre the ones who drilled down to depths

[hallow bolt]

Congrats!

[somber notch]

now im ready for perseverance

i think im actually gonna try to do that at least for a bit cuz it would be pretty cool i think

gotta go back for sandbox unlocks at some point

might just give up on that current hunter run cuz idk if theres too much of a point in continuing it

gonna be hard to save at 8 cycles left and also i havent really been keeping track of echoes

we do a little hunting (perseverance rscw??)

obviously i gotta like practice first

[ripe trench]

I didn’t specify the region

but hopefully since you found it you see what I mean

it is easy to miss that tunnel entirely and there is no way to get back up without flight or restarting the cycle

[somber notch]

ohh

Go to the west past the Farm Arrays, and then down into the earth...

[manic flax]

it did not

you don't need 6

[somber notch]

oh wait that was

devotee

Whoops

[somber notch]

imagine... the devotee + perseverance first hunter completion... to reach 5/70...

might be biting off a tad too much but it would be very funny so ill keep it in mind

[manic flax]

i don't think you can. devotee is a NRCD challenge, unlike perseverance. if you do both at the same time you'll have to rely on random cycle time which is really bad for a challenge like devotee. and if you fail you have to restart the whole run

I'll say outright, not a good idea

[somber notch]

oh i didnt notice that

[somber notch]

i probably wont be playing much for the next week cuz im in a like nasa online stem experience thing

[echo remnant]

woah

[somber notch]

the first part of it was basically an assignment every week for a few months but this time its like working with a team for 8+ hours a day

so im gonna be fried but itll be fun probably

[echo remnant]

damn, that's pretty intense

good luck, have fun!

[somber notch]

ty ty

the huntening will begin eventually

[somber notch]

oh that's how you got that role lemme

[honest marsh]

Perseverance gaming

[somber notch]

noticing some people actually don't like the gradients cuz theyre like harder to read and stuff so im gonna remove my role cuz im also just an ally anyway (for now )

[ripe trench]

they can always just click on your profile if needed
you are allowed to display yourself how you want to :)

[somber notch]

first day done classic 11 hour work day

not sure why we were going for so long but we're apparently ahead of other teams so cool i guess

[somber notch]

Two

[somber notch]

oh yea i did more planning for the run today and a few test runs to learn how starting on cycle 0 works
ill probably be starting from SI_S04 (eggbug shelter) because the plan is to store enough food in the first shelter to immediately get rid of the sickness when I wake up and the eggbug helps with that
i also worked out approximate distances from the shelter for each echo so i can choose which echo im going for next based on what cycle length i get
i drew all this all out including the routes, when one color comes out of another that means you do everything in the previous route up until the splitting point

(im sorry despi it would be silly if i did devotee i gotta try)

[manic flax]

I'm all for it if wanna you do it. it's a fun challenge

i would recommend a different route to depths though

[somber notch]

the map doesnt show where arrow tunnels go so that was the fastest route i think i saw while just looking at the map. seems pretty short through filtration though idk

[somber notch]

Three

[somber notch]

wait yeah what do u mean by different route surely u dont mean drainage system

[manic flax]

i do

[somber notch]

is normal subterranean really that dangerous that its worth going that big detour and then having to navigate more of filtration

[manic flax]

DS route if faster

[ripe trench]

both can be dangerous in their own way, it is more about how comfortable you are with navigating their threats

[manic flax]

not only you have to rely on the deer, you'll have to go through the whole SB to reach depths, while going through DS allows you to start in filtration right away

[ripe trench]

I personally find ds harder because I never go to that region and barely know what is there and where to go

[supple oracle]

isn’t this a hunter first playthrough

[ripe trench]

rwscs

[manic flax]

it's hunter challenges

[supple oracle]

i thought they said they were doing pers on their first hunter completion

[ripe trench]

that is a challenge

[supple oracle]

but it is also a hunter first playthrough

[ripe trench]

maxmorpher is w rainworld movementer and can defo do it

Uturnerer

[supple oracle]

[somber notch]

yea im trying to do pers as my first hunter win cuz its funny

[ripe trench]

have you played with the settings for it yet

[somber notch]

u mean 0 cycle thing

[ripe trench]

yes

[somber notch]

yeah ive done a few starts just to figure out how it works

i was wondering how to turn off the permadeath thing so i can practice routing cuz i saw i think featherlight mention that as a "flag" or something

but im not rly sure if thats in remix maybe im just blind

[ripe trench]

starts having spasms

[somber notch]

i mean i guess if im planning to store enough food in first shelter to immediately cure sickness i dont have to worry abotu simulating negative cycle

so nevermind

[ripe trench]

uhmmm idk about the perma death being able to be turned off unless you don’t have the cycles set to 0

[somber notch]

ok yea ima give myself inf cycles and no karma gate reqs and just practice routes first

[ripe trench]

epic time saving strat

[manic flax]

afaik, you can't

[somber notch]

alright tomorrow (today) should be the final day where i have to do a significant amount of work, and even if its not its guaranteed to end by noon on friday

[somber notch]

technically "work" day isnt over but all my obligations (and really anything i can help with) have been fulfilled

which means its practice time YIPEE

oh wait i have to eat first

[somber notch]

i eat so slow

ok NOW practice time

[somber notch]

oh do i have to visit an echo during cycle 0 so it shows up on -1 (final cycle that i actually will end up doing)

wuh..

it did the echo indicator i shelter come back and its just not there

i dont wanna just look up how to do it but what the flip D:

it works when i shelter again

maybe its just different on 0 cycle but having to visit the echo beforehand has me confused on how perseverance works

ok so once you get one echo to show up the rest of them will just show up

at least the cc one did

[dense tree]

Testing echo spawn mechanics?

[somber notch]

yeah cuz i never really figured it out from my previous runs

im also just practicing my routes for perseverance + devotee and i gotta say doing right side SI into the entire wall is pretty hard

these cyans are so fast

yep just got instakilled in like the second room of wall

yep just happened again

yep just happened again but a few rooms later

landed a whole spear and it just turns around and kills me like damn

[somber notch]

gotta love getting camped by 2 white lizards at the very end of the wall

ok yes wall echo is here

ok now ive gotta get through shaded

[ripe trench]

if it helps, some are different than others

[somber notch]

yea i remember u mentioned that before

is there any hint to those differences in game or do u literally just have to figure it out through trial and error

[ripe trench]

:P

uhh just observing them I suppose

[somber notch]

i finally get to the shaded one and its just not there

ik they sometimes need a certain karma level ive seen people say that before

so its hopefully just that

o yea it did the echo indicator thingy

[somber notch]

ok right to get to farm arrays echo its just the biggest scav toll ive ever seen

and i have to get past it at least twice

going through outskirts has a toll too so thats not rly helpful

ok that pearl u start with gives enough to let u get through if u present it to them with no weapons on you and dont kill anybody

ok again indiciator so def a karma thing sometimes

ctvs are so great for getting on sitting raindeer its actually so useful

ok it doesnt matter if the deer doesnt show up

first time ive heard deer riding msuic

subterranean always showing up makes sense cuz u cant get back from it without some jank

wait why did that give an achievement

whoops

i wouldve obviously gotten it later anyway but

oh its just max karma without seeing mr pebble

makes sense

only thing left to practice is going from the shelter down to depths

not exactly confident on my wall and shaded tho

ill try going drainage but idk if im gonna commit to it

[somber notch]

oh going drainage would make me have to get past toll twice but if i go subterranean i only have to do it once

wait u have to go through 2 scav tolls to get to drainage unless u go all the way to chimney and down through industrial

[somber notch]

unless the scavengers understand im coming from inside their territory and dont just try to kill me idk

[somber notch]

and nasa thing is done

yipee

[somber notch]

classic

[manic flax]

funny deer

[somber notch]

i think the strat might be get subterranean fiorst cuz the echo has to show up and it gets deer rng out of the way

and then maybe i do go drainage just cuz of that but idk i have to see how it goes

ok yea subterranean route isnt gonna work witht he deer

[manic flax]

are you doing <@&1134650487732457472>?

[somber notch]

yes

[manic flax]

you know where all echoes are right? wouldn't like to unintentionally spoil you

[somber notch]

yea i spent a while searching for them on survivor beforehand

[manic flax]

then i'd suggest the wall echo instead of subterranean

[somber notch]

oh wai

i thought i already told u the funny way im doing it

where im trying to also do devotee at the same time

[manic flax]

you did

subterranean will be a big problem because it could ruin your whole run due to rng
and instead of respawning in your shelter like in a regular <@&969750871204307056> run you'll have to restart the whole run

[somber notch]

thats why i was gonna try doing it as the first echo i get

oh wait now that i tried it once going through chimney canopy to get to industrial is way better than dealing with the scav toll(s)

[manic flax]

SU toll is chaotic

[somber notch]

oh wait getting through industrial means i have to survive a red lizard

gulp

and hunter outskirts full of centipedes...

[somber notch]

ok i died at filtration system gate going through drainage

ill probably opt for that route but its still rough cuz its so far

might have to change the startign shelter to be in chimney cuz that also makes shaded and wall a bit easier

yea idk im getting to drainage at like quarter left with nrcd on

[supple oracle]

what shelter are you using for devotee

[somber notch]

SI_S04

eggbug one

[manic flax]

wait hold on

nrcd is banned for perseverance

so is dakr

[somber notch]

yea im just practicing rn tho

dakr?

oh reight

its just so i cna figure out how to get to the places

[ripe trench]

How do you plan on getting to it?

[somber notch]

deer lol

[supple oracle]

[manic flax]

honestly i really recommend doing these challenges separately

[somber notch]

im not sure how else u can cuz climbing up that chasm seems wild

[ripe trench]

you can’t get through that gate off spawn

[somber notch]

yea thats why i would shelter first

oh wait

[supple oracle]

accidental react

[ripe trench]

You would have to shelter 2 times I think

[somber notch]

hmm

but then i also have to shelter twice for sky island to show up

[supple oracle]

need to get more movementful 🥹

[somber notch]

might end up doing that

but i gotta give it a few good tries

[ripe trench]

wall echo 1st moment

[somber notch]

theres like 2 gates there

[ripe trench]

Yes

[manic flax]

perseverance is already quite stressful by itself, getting all echoes and depths from one shelter just makes it worse

[somber notch]

indeed

[somber notch]

yeah every time i reach filtration the rain timers already started

[supple oracle]

[somber notch]

route im trying to do it on

i think if i was sheltered at chimney canopy i would make it cuz it cuts out all of sky island but that has other effects so

i dont think going through farm arrays would be any faster even though it looks like a shorter distance cuz theres those two long rooms and then trying not to die at a scav toll

ok this time i give them the pearl and they still dont let me through

its the same shelter so literally no difference

yeah no the second toll still kills u if u come from the left so thats just not gonna work

[somber notch]

im jus thaving a way harder time for no reason now that im doing it from closer

[somber notch]

literally havent gotten past outskirts once

[somber notch]

i havent been down here before rain timer before... are we so for real

[hallow bolt]

Filtration?

[somber notch]

yeah

why does this always happen

[supple oracle]

filtration is just like that

[somber notch]

died because the water showed a bit before i got there and i couldnt see myself at all

dude this is gonna suck

even if i dont do devotee

[somber notch]

ok im probably gonna try some actual attempts now but i dont expect to really get anywhere

might end up doing even just perseverance alone later

[somber notch]

right

im able to set up food in the cc shelter by ctving to snipe some noodle eggs

wait i can just like backflip upthrow oml

but yeah i finally did all that and then i try to go see if sky islands echo works and i just get clocked

[somber notch]

oh wait i need to do hunter to unlock like a good chunk of characters (unless i skip to redoing arti but i don wanna)

so i kinda just gotta do at least pers

ive been playing a kinda ridiculous amount of this game tho and my summers taken up by a lot of things when i also have like a video i wanna eventually finish

so yea maybe ill start playing less probably if i dont get consumed by rwsc

[hallow bolt]

You could do gourmand tho

Hunter isn't mandatory

[somber notch]

i guess but im also kinda wanting to keep doing first playthroughs in multiplayer unless its a hunter situation where its like exponentially harder

kinda why i continued doing rwsc after dabbling in vegan

[hallow bolt]

Why's that negate gourmand tho

Oh because jolly coop not existing for dp campaigns

I use Unshackled Coop for that (though it sucks that l have to downpatch for it to work [hasn't been updated to watcher-friendly yet] )

[somber notch]

ive been using meadow this whole time for it and its been working pretty well

only problem is we dont actually unlock slugcats which is one reason im doing solo runs

we did an artificer ending already

i dont rly wanna use jolly cuz then one of us doesnt get achievements

[rare tusk]

there is a way to move meadow saves to your campaign saves

[somber notch]

maybe we'll try that at some point but playing in solo is a bit of a different experience which i can appreciate

good excuse to play more rain world

at first we were doing mutliplayer because i wasnt sure i would be able to hold up trying to learn the game and getting clobbered all the time but obviously now im a little bit better

its also just like fun to explore the world with a friend so yea

[rare tusk]

very true my friend who isn't very good at the game has much more fun when i'm there to help them

[hallow bolt]

Same for my partner!

[rare tusk]

all you have to do is go into your files and duplicate/rename saves, ex. sav2 to online_sav2 or the other way around

[hallow bolt]

Solo playthrough is irreplaceable as an unique intimate experience but being shepherded by an experienced friend in co-op allows enjoyment of the game in an irreplaceable way too

[somber notch]

i kinda feel like i mightve turned into the experienced friend cuz ive played so much at this point but previously he was the one that was good at fighting at stuff and i was good at schmoving

im still trying to know as little as i can about msc to keep that blind playthrough feel going but yt algorithm is pranking me with like singular frames of saint in thumbnails

[rare tusk]

it's always the youtube thumbnails

[somber notch]

ive kinda given up on doing pers + devotee right now so that wont be how i reach 5/70

i did desperado tho #vanilla-server-challenges message

i do wanna at least do pers as my first hunter win but the funny...

[somber notch]

oh thjis makes doing devotee solo easier than i thought

maybe i pick the bottom shelter of chimney canopy for pers devotee tho

cuz the only issue that causes is farm arrays and subterranean but those were still pretty close

just gotta make getting to depths easier so that its doable without a full timer

[somber notch]

filtration is awful omg

gotta love actually invisible lizards that will just kill you if you move

[echo remnant]

I actually love blind filtration funnily enough

idk why it just sorta works most of the time

[somber notch]

maybe i got unlucky but a lizard shows up and notices me so i try stabbing him with the usual rock spear combo and then after the first stab i just get snatched and die

also love how it takes 10 years to take the spear off ur back

[somber notch]

ok switching to that shelter made me able to reach depths

huge fan of constantly going back through the same pipe waiting for lizards to clear out :D

maybe i should test going to all the echoes again but the noodleflys are mad at me on this save cuz i ate the eggs...

im not sure how im gonna get food down there though because i believe all the popcorn plants are used up like permanently

[somber notch]

yea just speedran to there on a real run and theres just no food there

if i bring a lizard corpse into the shelter somehow would it survive the shelter

cuz i know some things down

oh wait it does ive seen the red lizard pilgrimage thing where the lizards just dead

idk if hunters strong enough to lift a lizard up there tho

well theres 3 vulture grubs...

with the scaling wouldnt that give like 3/4 of a pip...

[hallow bolt]

I always find it ironically quicker to rush up to the stunned lizard and repull and restab the first spear

[somber notch]

i didnt have a rock so i was trying to use it as the rock

oh wiki has a lil chart for food stuffs

2 food on cycle -1 is what i need

the 3 grubs are only 1.2

im kinda worried about bringing those noodlefly eggs from sky islands cuz those noodlelfies are still in cc (and i have to go back through sky islands anyway)

i mean maybe i just bring a billion bats and fruit and stuff but theyre gonna be worth like .2

i cant store anything in my stomach like a vulture grub from farm arrays because i need the blue pearl for the farm arrays echo

maybe i could kill a tiny centipede from farm arrays spawn and bring it all the way to the shelter but thats a LONG way

unrelated but whenever i close anything discord counts as a game i have to not touch anything for 5 seconds or my monitors turn off and i have to restart my computer

dropbug idk

honestly i dont know how these work with the percentages

but apparently there might be an eggbug somewhere which would definitely work

[ripe trench]

the percentages aren’t important right now, the creature at the top is what spawns there

if you want an explanation on what the % is for I or someone else can say but idk if it would benefit you much

[somber notch]

that eggbug is nowhere to be found idk

wait that sounds like i think ur wrong but na i think it just went and wandered across the entire region'

[rare tusk]

eggbug went on vacation

[ripe trench]

They are just really fast and it probably ran elsewhere

[somber notch]

apparently because of the weird incorrect food thing on spawn those 3 grubs are actually enough to cure it

i got instantly snatched by a spitter spider but the only missing piece now is figuring out how to trigger the first echo without having to shelter first

[manic flax]

I don't think you can

[somber notch]

o wait i worded it wrong

ik u cant literally get an echo on the spawn cycle

but during planning i had to shelter to like make the pre-echo thing show up and then shelter again for the actual echo to happen

[somber notch]

this start is rough ngl and thats before the devotee stuff has even started but ill get better at it

wouldve made it just now but i keep accidentally doing that fastfall tech when i try to walking off a ledge and just voided myself lol

[somber notch]

oh yea forgot to mention i did make that initial indicator happen on spawn cycle so i think im forced to doing that echo first and then the karma req some echoes apparently might have will be fulfilled

i know wall and subterranean echoes always appear probably but im worried about the shaded one cuz its so far i dont think i could activate the indicator and then get to another echo in time

[somber notch]

classic pipe camping white lizard and then i try to spear and just insta die

this is STILL before the devotee part has even mattered

[somber notch]

birthday jumpscare

havent been playing recently cuz ive been doing other stuff like summer school to skip a history year and video editing and some gym

but the perseverance and maybe the devotee better be quaking in their boots!!