#double trouble: artificer (currently paused)

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tawny hamlet
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this is a two player run btw saintunyoy
im doing solo runs alongside this, those can be found here https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1376398950294225067

slugcats done: slugclose artirabid (ish)

and now, an explanation of how my friend and i accidentally skipped the entire game monkcheese

||ok so we were doing our first run on survivor, but we ran into the depths before seeing literally anything else relating to the end of the game
the guardian ai was slightly off or something and we managed to barely slip through by getting flung over the wall, so we spoiled the end of the game for ourselves, but still have no idea whats going on
the only thing we've seen outside of that is moon (we ate his neurons, sorry) and a bit of the shaded citadel
we WERE going to start by jumping into hunter, but we didn't realize that's why he's challenging... so back to survivor to not skip the game this time
*(i discovered this happened to us by getting spoiled on the existance of five pebbles, karma 10, and the communication dot, but luckily don't know anything else regarding them)

(also were playing together using rain meadow because it works fine for the most part, and jolly coop has input device issues. also it'd be lame for only one person to get the achievements. u can't unlock characters on meadow though apparently, so were just acting like we have to unlock them)*||

im making this mainly to make sure were on the right track, at least character wise, and also to try not to skip the whole game again lol. little bit of documenting is fun too

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this run wont start for a bit cuz i got school to deal with but i do have a few questions

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  • is playing two different slugcats a bad idea? cuz ive seen a part of a yt playthrough that did that and it seemed to work fine
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  • is there a specific order we should be playing the slugcats in? if so, what is it?
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  • this is a more modding help question, but my friends karma symbol is always visually stuck at 1 (im the host). is there a fix for this, or will he just have to look at my stream to see it?
    -# not a big deal honestly
tawny hamlet
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two hunters vs da world

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two Hunters vs the world

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double trouble: hunter

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maxmorpher settle on a title challenge

modest jacinth
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Play the game however you like. For slugcat order just go based on unlock order, with Saint last.
But I do recommend playing a bit more survivor before doing hunter, as hunter expects you to have a pretty good knowledge and grasp of how the game works.

tribal bay
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^ very important you know the map some

tawny hamlet
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i guess that makes sense lol. noted!

tawny hamlet
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i just realized when we beat the game on survivor it didnt actually unlock hunter in single player (meadow just has them all unlocked)

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is there a way to play multiplayer where both people can use the same input device but it also unlocks things (like hunter in this case)

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actually maybe its for the better it doesnt so i can go and do them solo later

tribal bay
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i would think

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jolly coop*

tawny hamlet
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isnt jolly coop the steam remote play thing

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i thought that one was the different input devices one

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and also he dont get achievemnts D:

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is there a way to like cheat them in afterwards if we just continue with rain meadow or will we have to beat every slugcat solo

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that sounds kinda fun but that will be a lot

tribal bay
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i dont have a lot of experience with coop but i think that is how it works if youre not just sharing a device and in the same room

tawny hamlet
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hm

tribal bay
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there is a way to cheat steam achievements but i have no part in that

tawny hamlet
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wait its not like rain meadow stops you getting achievements

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does it specifically stop you from getting character unlock achievement or something

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we both got The Survivor, Ascension, and Stolen Enlightenment

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weeeird

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wait are character unlocks tied to steam achievements or not

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cuz i have ascension which by that logic should at least give me hunter but no

tawny hamlet
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ok were just gunna run with not unlocking characters and we can have fun speedrunning unlocking them solo later

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but we'll act as if we have to unlock them even though meadow lets us play all of them

tribal bay
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You don’t get achievements for unlocking characters

tawny hamlet
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i guess meadow just makes you not get them

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o well

tribal bay
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No, you don’t get achievements for unlocking characters ever
Just for completing them

tawny hamlet
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makes you not unlock the characters i meant

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idk if u can turn off meadow having all the characters unlocked anyway so

tawny hamlet
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3 hours of gaming and we finally got out of sky gardens and left off starting pipeyards

tawny hamlet
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did not know you just DIE on the 20th cycle

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i guess thats why you said we should know the map lmao

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thats kinda dumb but ok

tribal bay
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It’s not dumb huntercool
there could be a loreful reason

tawny hamlet
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that would make more sense

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i thought the challenge was having to fight stuff bruh 😭

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well time to run it back

tribal bay
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You can do it over and over as many times as you want, that is typically what happens anyway

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You learn more each time

tawny hamlet
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i guess it assumes youve beaten the game already

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teehee

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maybe it would be better to go back to survivor or like monk but doing that feels a tad lame

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is monk literally just survivor but its easier to stay alive

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cuz idk if i wanna even bother with it in that case

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wait did it always say cycle 19 at the start

tribal bay
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Since u skipped through the game you could use monk to explore the world, there are some differences tho

tawny hamlet
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this hunter start is wonderful

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one direction is just completely filled with water and then the other is just a dead end with scavs

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o theres a gate but i was already dead

dark ledge
tawny hamlet
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almost got to chimney canopy in 2 cycles but i forgot to eat

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friend bugged so he had to leave so i could go through the gate

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can hunter get karma in a way that doesnt require sheltering

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or i got there but couldnt shelter

tribal bay
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to move your karma up/down you need to either die or shelter

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you can starve by holding down in a shelter, but your game does not save unless you sleep when youre full

tawny hamlet
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you gotta have like the whole map memorized then wha

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jeez

tribal bay
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you should know generally where things are and where you want/need to go

tawny hamlet
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survivor it is monknervous

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if it was just hard to stay alive then we could keep going but having to basically speedrun the whole game isnt rly doable without knowing the game

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double trouble: survivor (hunter paused...)

tribal bay
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when you know how to do it it is not so much a speedrun as it is a test of skill

tawny hamlet
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yeah im just saying compared to how exploring with survivor is

tawny hamlet
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left off at chimney canopy but on survivor this time

tawny hamlet
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i wish there was actual multiplayer just built in but i know its like notoriously a nightmare to make

tribal bay
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Game is also pretty old which doesn’t help that either

tawny hamlet
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very good point

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i know youre not supposed to look at the wiki but i looked at the jolly coop page and it is indeed just local or steam remote

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theres an actually annoyijg bug with meadow where an enemy will start like spaghettifying and getting stretched across like 5 screens and it causes a ton of lag so i just have to sit it out most of the time
but it doesn't happen too much and only with certain enemies so i can just deal with it

tribal bay
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You can always both play single player and share your experiences with eachother

tawny hamlet
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thats probably what we'll end up doing but after we go through all the characters together so that we dont like spoil major areas or something
or at least some of them

tawny hamlet
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i might also make a video of highlights of our runs on each character just so we can look back at them but that might be too much work (and file space)

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either that or remembering to clip things even if they seem kinda not worth it but thats a bit hard when youre all immersed

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just something to preserve moments of it because for some reason i just dont remember specific moments very well in games and its annoying

tawny hamlet
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oh hunter description literally says its counting down lol

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classic

tawny hamlet
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pebble man has been found

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i thought there would be more to it than just giving you the dot and mark and being on your merry wayu

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were gunna go to lttm though no way were just ending the run there

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i also thought five pebbles was the guy with regeneratable neurons or whatever so we still gotta figure out how to help lttm (which is why were going to him)

tawny hamlet
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it saved that we ate the neurons last time cuz its the same.. save??

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oh theres like delete save on a character and then an entirely new save

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so moon is just sad forever

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1 pearl away from getting the scholar but ok bruh..

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got mad at me after sheltering cuz it remembered i ate a neuron in a different universe

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or is that a bug idk

tribal bay
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there is a way to make them happy again

tawny hamlet
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The Leg

tawny hamlet
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oh yeah The Underhang

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this place is messed up

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we didnt know where to go and i have to go (to sleep) so tada end of

tawny hamlet
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i have not been clipping enough but idk its not specific moments as much as it is the overall Vibe™️

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i gotta take more screenshots im the worst documenter of all time

tawny hamlet
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the precipice

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looks like it has nothing but theres totally a gate somewhere

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like another entrance that actually has stuff

tawny hamlet
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all that just to get imploded

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probably something u can do to make that not happen but there isnt a single morcel of a hint as to what that could be

balmy jolt
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moon is she/her

tawny hamlet
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well that was 5p

balmy jolt
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uhh

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;-;

tawny hamlet
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wh

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what are 5ps idk what to call anyone in this game

deft mural
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They are
5 pebbles stacked on each other /silly

tawny hamlet
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rock/stone

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idk what the point of having 2 routes to pebbles is but this one was way more difficult

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exploring takes forever and theres so much to explroe so i guess well be hjere for a bit

tawny hamlet
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ok is there anything to be found if i keep exploring or do i have to go outside and find something else

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actually that would say too much

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idk it just seems weird that this whole area could be skipped by just going p the wall

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some areas are really cool like the one with the main theme thing happening but idk

tribal bay
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It used to be impossible to get there through that route

tawny hamlet
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what so the whole point of the wall used to be a single echo

tribal bay
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Not entirely

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||it is the exit area from five pebbles, it shows you the scale of the structure you were inside of too||

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Dk if that’s spoilers or not, nothing major tho if ur curious

tawny hamlet
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ohhh

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so wall was originally just descending

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weird

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well no i guess you could still go up there but it didnt do much

tribal bay
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In certain instances it may be a good idea

tawny hamlet
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youre really good at saying things in a way which implies theres something i dont know

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we'll find it later tho we wanna go see something else

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oh the neuron fly just turns into moons

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we only brought one tho so we gbotta do a lot of passing

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besides that we're kinda out of things we know we can do or find or explore

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the precipice was literally just a dead end and leg+underhang just led to that

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going down is probably always just an eventual route to the end of the game

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is there any way to know how many neurons you need to bring to moon cuz i dont wanna journey across the entire map 15 times

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in the passage menu there isnt a way to even go back to the leg or underhang or precipice so thats a little annoying

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oh yeah Ominous Keypad Thing Gate

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speaking of weird gates there was this gate we saw a WHILE ago which had this symbol ⛔ on both sides
is that a character locked area

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monksilly jumpscare

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youre Knowing could go both ways so i wont question it

tawny hamlet
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7 neurons!

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at least shes like happy lol

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giant mechanical sea serpent of despair strikes again

tawny hamlet
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oh does passage count as the number of cycles it takes to go to max karma

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or is it a set amount i havent been keeping track

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that kinda ruins the plan i had for hunter but that would be too easy i guess

tawny hamlet
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Fear Of Missing Out (on content)

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we could probably handle a hunter run now but therers clearly more to do

tribal bay
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you cannot use passages as hunter

tawny hamlet
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yea that makes sense

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
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oh im ngl we were like heading to subterreanean cuz we just couldnt find anywhere new

tawny hamlet
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wait are echoes like mr mushroom from hollow knight...

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first one was at the wall this one was in farm arrays and i ahve no idea why it showed up

tribal bay
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if only i played hk saintpensive

tawny hamlet
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whoops

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well is it actually a single entity thats going around the map

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like he hides in a different spot whenever you find him

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idk what triggered it tho

tribal bay
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i guess that is for you to decide mwahahahaaha

tawny hamlet
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he doesnt really give hints though so itd just be scouring the entire map every time...

tribal bay
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maybe he invaded rainworld

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sounds pretty loreful

tawny hamlet
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everythings loreful in this game my goodness

tawny hamlet
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deer simulator

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just as bad even after a whole other run lol

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they just get stuck

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yes i know about the eggs

tawny hamlet
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oh yeah we still dont know what this could possibly be referring to

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but its filling up for some reason

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wow the deer went to the left

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splendid

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thats gunna kill every hunter run :D

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
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oki
left off somewhere in centipede land of farm arrays, beating the game for real here we come

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giving moon neurons didnt really seem to do anything but hopefully by the time we beat the game we have a passage available or something so we can go to her and get the scholar achievement

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
deft mural
tawny hamlet
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different final screen! woohoo!

tawny hamlet
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(12 hours 5 minutes)

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time for dragon slayer and scholar

tawny hamlet
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the pearl i had was EMPTY so it didnt count

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hunter time

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oh we just realized that gourmand and artificer are unlocked from doing survivor too

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should we do one of those or something

tribal bay
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Up to you!

tawny hamlet
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i saw it coming from 2 blocks away

tribal bay
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Try each one for a bit to help decide if you wanna

tawny hamlet
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yeah were gunna try hunter again for a bit and see if its more doable than before

tribal bay
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None of them specifically have to be played before or after each other

tawny hamlet
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classic rain world making every route intended

tribal bay
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should say saint should be played after all the other campaigns have at least been tried

tawny hamlet
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ya were still gunna follow unlock rules and stuff

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and do saint last yea

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
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artificer just explodes when he goes in water??

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how do you do shoreline then...

tribal bay
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dont explode

tawny hamlet
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...theres only 1 karma level??

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probably associated with killing stuff idk

tribal bay
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still in gw?

tawny hamlet
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y

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a

tribal bay
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ahh so just t hinking ahead about shoreline

tawny hamlet
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why are we karma 3 now it said we didnt gain ainy

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ok its associated with something with scavengers

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omg thats hilarious

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scavengers are our karma

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maybe

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not sure whats going on

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to shoreline we go

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
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nope this is shaded citadel

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ohh we have to find the echoes this time

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karma 2 woohoo

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left off about to enter memory crypts

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we're gonna try going to five pebbles the other route

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still dont really know how karma works here id guess its based on the rank of the scavenger you have

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also yeah were probably doing artificer next hunter is a whole thing and maybe we'll just do it on our own

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double trouble: artificer

tawny hamlet
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oh the thing in the top right is the diamond guys

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unlocks

tawny hamlet
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oh wow a miros vulture thats just great

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distinct lack of rot and distinct first sighting of that so maybe rot just isnt here

tawny hamlet
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kinda confused what to do in the leg

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no scavengers to bring to gate

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also all the cutscenes are just blakc screen

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oh i didnt know it just led to the wall too

tribal bay
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have you ever gone that way?

tawny hamlet
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havent gone leg to wall before i dont think

tribal bay
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its a cool area, might be worth exploring if you can tolerrate it

tawny hamlet
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cant get in to there rn cuz its 5 karma and the leg has no scavenger squads

tawny hamlet
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left off halfway up the wall

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i have to stop throwing grenades when im two inches away from the enemy

tawny hamlet
# tribal bay have you ever gone that way?

oh wait you were probably talking about the gate (that goes to the right)
i thought that just went to underhang which went to precipice where its like 4 screens and nothing else. maybe its expanded on arti for some reason but i won't get to know for a bit

tribal bay
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nah I wasn’t

tawny hamlet
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oh well yeah thats just the wall then which is how we got to 5p the first time

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i was saying how i havent gone specifically through that passage from leg to wall but yea it was pretty neat

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
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just realized i should probably post the clips i take in here

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these are some from survivor

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embeds are fricking huge dang it

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those are from survivor run ^

tawny hamlet
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oo 5ps got a little quest for us huh

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he also "resynced" our drone guy but its not apparent what that did yet

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the 9 dot gate is suspiciously not flashing anymore

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arti exclusive area is crazy

tawny hamlet
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ok i had to look up why the arti cutscenes werent working its cuz theyre playable

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thats annoying

tribal bay
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youre not missing much by not moving about

tawny hamlet
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12th pillar council house of braids or something

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i Theorize this is how you go to that entrance above moon without going through shoreline (because youre arti)

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i didnt think about the going through shoreline part until i wrote that sentence im not gunna lie

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nope im wrong

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artiwh ENDING ONE: KILL ALL THE SCAVENGERS

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time for the not that ending

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or not? it saved that...

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oh i guess the logical continuation is go back to five pebbles

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whyd it play the ending though

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i know you literally cant get good scav rep because thats just how arti works but i feel like there has to be another way to go past that

tribal bay
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||you are locked to the ending once you get it|| - saving you some time and effort

tawny hamlet
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ah

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id assume that besides different ascension cutscenes there isnt a reason to go actually beat the game on that one

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i kiinda wanna see what 5p has to say but also thats so far and i wanna get good ending so

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once friend gets back from the store arti PART 2 starts

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i wont change the title to that because that hints at there being 2 Multiple endings

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never know with this game my goodness

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oh i did not notice the steam achievement that gave

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wait if youre locked to that ending what happens if you ascend cuz thats another ending

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wait theres probably like so many ending variations on this one guy

tribal bay
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try it if you would like to

tawny hamlet
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i probably wont because thats just too far for changing a single cutscene a bit but definitely interesting

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maybe ill do that when i do it solo or something idk

tribal bay
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You can use a new save slot in settings if you want to start again without deleting your current one

tawny hamlet
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smart

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just thinking about it and obviously dont say anything but if the answer is just finding all the echoes and ascending at karma 10 i think thats a little bit lame

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yay yelo

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im sure we'll figure it out eventually but right now im completely clueless cuz obviously you cant befriend the scavengers but ignoring the quest entirely seems boring

tawny hamlet
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who dehydrated my shoreline

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this is awesome ngl

tribal bay
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wonderful area that often doesn’t even get explored on arti campaign

tawny hamlet
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muahaha! i have accidentally made you accidentally kind of reveal that the thing im attempting is going to lead to nowhere! maybe!

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the idea (with nothing to back it up) is that moon gives a quest which sends you down the Dont Just Kill Everyone path

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no spoilers but it would be funny if i just sniped that

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wait actually tiny spoiler ill allow: is that one area with the loud creaking that just has a red unlockable (safari zone thing or something) where the ocean right before moon usually is

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aaagh probably better not to tell me anyway but though the area is cool it would kinda suck for there to somehow be no way to get to moon from there or even like

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
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i mean if they remade the whole area theres gotta be either a huge lore reason or theres something important to find riiiight

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do people really just end their arti runs at metropolis that often

tribal bay
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once they get the ending yes

tawny hamlet
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i guess nothings actually saying theres another ending but it just didnt feel right

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
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just realized we can just passage to 5p to see what he says about it

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ascension is gunna be hard tho cuz we gotta find like 9 echoes lol

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PRESUMABLY

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surely 5p wouldn't just give you the 10 karma cap once you did the quest...

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dont answer that were checking tomorrow anyway

tribal bay
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my answer is……..

tawny hamlet
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😱

tribal bay
tawny hamlet
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this game is ridiculous idk what to even say about it

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i need to stop stalling sleeping anyway EXPEDITION TOMORROW !!! artirabid

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ok wait you said nothing forces u anywhere but metropolis but you could also just ignore 5p so ur not forced saintsmirk

tribal bay
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this is factual

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you’re not forced to travel to any specific location

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I worded it weird, I meant generally the player is guided there by 5p and they head there quickly and before they know it the campaign is over for them

tawny hamlet
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oh yeah we didnt check today cuz friend was busy but tomorrow for sure probably

tawny hamlet
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"oh cool you did it anyway im busy man"

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lame

tawny hamlet
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ok well now were tryna go from garbage wastes through drainage system

deft mural
tawny hamlet
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gotta get a whole scavenger every death and then get through that so

tawny hamlet
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well we got out of there but just went to industrial complex

tawny hamlet
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ok outskirts is just hell oh my goodness

tawny hamlet
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it actually took that long to get a 5 karma and bring him to the gate

tawny hamlet
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BIG WORM GUY DIDNT TAKE ME DOWN??

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artiwh ENDING TWO: FAILED ASCENSION?

(the ending below this one in pins actually happened before this one, dont worry about it tho ruffles invwink )

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it feels like we skipped it but theres just no way they really expect you to find 10 more echoes after permanently losing some of them to the metropolis thing

tribal bay
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yea you skipped by

tawny hamlet
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well yeah but like doing it on a different save slot so we never kill the scav king

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wait is the point of the killing scav king resetting max karma to like

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...lock you out of ascension...

tribal bay
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oh I never answered your second question oops
yes

tribal bay
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(yes it would do something different)

tawny hamlet
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hm

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i guess we'll figure out if getting echoes is how youre supposed to beat the game on the second run

tawny hamlet
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but then if you find enough echoes before so that there's less than 9 when your karma gets reset then it would actually lock you out i guess

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oh wait the first thing assume theres only just enough to reach 10 karma which idk

tawny hamlet
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theory that echoes either don't show up or dont do the shelter give karma thing after getting that ending

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kinda hard to tell cuz weve foujd like 3 echoes ever

tribal bay
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some are picky while others aren’t

tawny hamlet
tribal bay
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locations

tawny hamlet
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double trouble: hunter (arti on hold)

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...single trouble?: hunter (arti 2player on hold)

deft mural
tawny hamlet
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double trouble?: artificer (currently paused)

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double trouble: artificer (currently paused)

tawny hamlet
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(i originally put the initial explanation stuff in here that's why there's a random pin by ruffles lol)

tawny hamlet