#going for [spoilers] after being wandering like an idiot for over 5 hours
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i already completed the first ending of the dlc
however
i have 0 idea of how to get the second
i didn't want to spoil myself so i haven't checked online for answers
but i've already been wandering around for at least 5 hours with no progress
i originaly thought the second ending would have someting to do with reaching 10 karma but the echo no longer appears so
i have no idea
i also wwemt to checck on the rot iterator guy
but they don't say anything new
i was planning to back to the five pebbles area with the rot worm
but i don't really think it will do anything
and i would probably take like over an hour to even reach it
so i just need to know if i need to like
restart the campaign to get the 2nd ending?
or is there something else i can do?¡
any help would be welcome
just not too much help
or it might become spoilers

no, don't worry 
you can get them both in the same save
it does relate to them though 
pay attention to some of their dialogue
if you need a small hint... ||maybe something to do with the purple rot borders around regions...||

my savior
thanks for the help
i'll try checking out the areas
might as well do some updates in here like i did with the downpour slugcats
if you do need more help just let me know!! what you need to do to get the ending isn't exactly obvious anyway
you definitely should 
well
currently in this place
since i have made 0 progress after getting the first ending this will be a quest to reach the 2nd
does it count as spoilers if i put on the title that i'm trying to get the 2nd ending?
yeah i'd assume so
not everyone knows there's two endings
weird sunflower iterator thingy
||checking if this works first||
going for ||the second ending|| after being wandering like an idiot for over 5 hours
Spoilers in the title in fact does not work 
Viewing the forums on pc works
Mobile, not so much
going for [spoilers] after being wandering like an idiot for over 5 hours
Real
i'll open a random portal here to see where it takes me
hmmm
maybe remove my karma flower
since i'm half sure that when you open portals with no karma flower you get send to those rot areas
either that or it was when you did it with low karma
i'll try
uhh
maybe the portal opening was not it
i forgot other areas besides the really rotted ones also had this thing around them
i'll go to the surface since i have a portal besides the shelter
i think i never explored this area fully
i'm pretty sure this is the area i went to right after getting the first ending
i guess i never explored enough
i'm gonna try going left
I hate these rotted lizards with all i have
i can't even atack them or they'll turn into something worse
bruh
shelter
that i will skip

pretty sure this just takes me to that low grav place
i still don't know what those rot things that throw you around are supposed to be
this lizard is too op
we live
death is coming
lol
well it doesn't matter
that shelter was too far away from the rot area
i'll just take the shelter i didn't take earlier
new shelter
man
good to knoww that when you float using your ability you can escape the grass no matter what
WHAT
THAT LIZARD SHOOTS LAZERS
the lazer
i got killed by the lazer
crazy
well i think that i need to go to the area to the left of the rot
since i found nothing that seemed to do anything in the area
either that or i do in fact need to go to that portal that looked like the ones that send me to the low gravity area with the karma flowers
i'll try the portal
if it sends me to the same area i'll just quit and enter again since you can't die in there
yeah
ok i'll take a break
for the future if you need them, here's some more hints
feel free to look at them if you feel stumped, because this ending is quite vague in how to get it
hint one, a bit less vague: ||maybe it's not the regions, but the rot itself?
||
hint two, a bit direct: ||what happened to the regions you made portals to, connecting to the throne? i wonder if this has any relation to iterator guy's dialogue...||
hint three, very direct: ||maybe something needs to be spread to more regions
||
i have been over 50 minutes trying to get past this horrible room
i am in pain
AAAAAA
who made this room
why do did they put the rot lizard in it
if they were gonna put the rot lizard at least don't put the grass man
those stupid rot tentacle things grab you and put you in the grass for a guaranted death

if i had max karma it would be so easy
YES
finally
well there is definitely more rot here than before
freedom
back here again
i guess i'll use a shelter here and then go back
greenage systems 
time to talk to Mr. Rot again
i got dialogue for giving him food
also i'm quite sure absolutely nothing has changed yet
going back
i think i get it
the areas adjacent to the ones that connect to the throne also become rotted
at least i think that's how it works
but i'm not too sure if i need to enter the portal first for it to count
yooooo
new cutscene
this probably means i'm making progress
the portal close to the shelter at verdant waterways connected to uhh
what i think is coral caves
uhh
not coral caves no
i'll go back
there's probably nothing new
ok i'll go back to the throne now
quite sure that room changed
new dialogue
i thought that rot would have dissapeared by now
hmmmm
not too sure what to do now
i could probably farm a few cycles in some random area
but i'm not sure if that's the answer to this
perhaps i need to open portals on the rotted areas using my ability
so it connects to more places
not sure if it would work tho
i'm going to check the map for now
i'll probably stop playing for today
i won't stop playing for today
this game is calling my name
i'll go to sleep after this
i'll check this area
forgot the name of the place lol
it is quite rotted
i wonder if those weird gray things are rotted too
i don't see any of the weird guys
there they are
haven't seen any proto rot though
i'll open the portal here since it's close to the other one
salination
uh
not one of the areas i wanted to portal to
i guess it's fine
i can see the black rot thing dripping on the left
so it probably worked
i even got a karma flower
i'll rest here and open another portal in this room
nice
i thought nothing had changed but that room is certainly more gray than before
nah why do i spawn right next to a white rot lizard
next portal will be here
oh but i need a karma flower
i'll go back to the throne
the background i moving moving
why the only place i need to go
i'm quite sure this place had already gotten the rot
now we go talk to John Rot
no new dialogue
i guess i need to keep opening portals
this is the next area for the portals
whyyyyy
ok i will actualy leave it here for today
also you can really FEEL the nerf to they did to the goddamn barnacles
man
well to add a little update here
i played for around half an hour or something on my own at my other pc
and i managed to really rot signal spires which was great
and then i did nothing else because i've been busy
sucks to have so much school this week
i hope i can play tuesday as i REALLY want to play this game more
well
seems like i'll be able to play today as i skipped school
honestly i have so many assignments and tests to do i don't even wwant to think about it
this is where i left the game after corrupting signal spires
also mr John Rot gave me new dialogue
so progress is being made
ok so
i thought that maybe
what i need to do is make the rot reach the area with the floating rocks
forgot the name
that connects to the city of the ancients
i might be wrong but i think it's one of the things that could lead to something else
either that or i just keep rotting things since that also seems to just advance the dialogue
seems like i can reach the area from signal spires
maybe that's why i was sent twice to signal spires after opening two different portals?
could be
i'll check the area around the portal at signal spires
i'll use this shelter
i think i need to travel to the left side of the area using the whales and then go up to use them again
rot has not reached this place
these rooms are right besides eachother but the rot doesn't seem to reach here
maybe shattered terrace is simply not possible to rot
i'll try going throught the portal but if it doesn't work i'll just open some portals here at signal spires
if signal spires doesn't do anything maybe the other areas will
new portal here
farming cycles
new portal here
hmmm
man
somehow i still haven't gotten the rot to reach aether ridge
bruh
the scavs blocked my way into the pipe and the locusts got me
scavs know what you're doing 
they always know
every time you want to reach some place fast they do their hardest effort to block the pipes
also the portal to go to signal spires is no longer there
but thsi area is now almost fully rotted
and the room that connects to aether ridge is also full of rot
so maybe i can make the rot reach aether ridge from here
let's go now aether ridge got the rot too
the infection spreads 
bruh why is aether ridge sooooo massive
i'll have to go through Daemon again to get to mr rot
wow i don't know when this place got so much rot
it's really pretty rotted at least
btw there is this weird visual bug that happens when i go through the daemon portal
the room image remains the same even though the actual area has changed
so the first time it happened i feel to the void because i didn't realize what happened
when i change rooms it goes back to normal
bruh
how come i have rotted almost every single area now and the guy doesn't have anything new to say
man
there is no way i'm doing something wrong here
maybe they want me to rot every single area
ok i'll open a new portal somewhere else and if it takes me to an area without rot then that's probably what i have to do
that does in fact seem like what they want me to do
aaaaaaa
i didn't reach a shelter
sent back here again
killed the lizard
aaaaaaaaaa
finally
new portal
ok now stormy coast has a lot of rot
sent here again
mayube there is no more areas left to rot
do you know how to check?
yes
it's what i'm about to do
well
unless i missed an area
i think i did every single one
unless you can also get the rot to shattered terrace but i don't think it's possible
yet
i could probably do it from fetid glen if it's necessary
i'll go talk to mr rot
in around 20 minutews
i'm going to go get a burguer before i keep playing
Congrat
wow
i understood absolutely nothing about that ending
i can continue
lot's of karma flowers
soooooo
i guess there is still something else i can do now
probably?
surely there is
hmmm
well right now the only thing i can think of doing is going to the
five pebbles
ah
it's all full of karma flowers
this place connects to shattered terrace so i'll see if it can be rotted too
can't really tell if there is any rot here
nope
i guess that isn't it
since there is so many karma flowers around i can just open portals until i get to a place that connects to cold storage
LMFAO
don't worry, me either
but at least the karma flowers are pretty 
this is right besides a portal to cold storage
yeah lol
are there rot lizors everywhere 
i haven't played since i finished the ending even though i've been meaning to
here it is
this is super close to the five pebbles portal
here we are
it's so cool
but nothing happened
as expected
hmmm
is there actually anything else that i can do after getting that cutscene?
because it certainly seemed like an ending
but i can continue and do other things sooo
does it mean there are 3 endings or something?

help
just the two for now 
but there will be other things to do much later since they plan to do content updates in the future

me too i want more rain world 
i am crying in pain
this is the worst moment in the history of mankind
i NEED to know what happens next

well at least i can see youtube videos noww
and other stuff
i wanna see what the community has tried to piece together about the lore
like why is there a rot void worm inside of peebles
though i'vve already thought of a few things
if you want, feel free to share your theories 
i'm not as creative enough to make theories but i love reading what other people come up with
there's a lot of stuff about the lore importance of outer rim, and some people piecing together some stuff based on the file names
been waiting for uraniumeater on youtube to post their watcher theories vid 
well first of all
i have no idea of what the hell are the cans at outer rim supposed to be
they're apparently ||starcatchers||
what
to like catch stars?
literally?
yeah 
you can see stars falling in the background of outer rim and according to someone the dust and sand is called stardust in the files, but i haven't fact checked that one myself
where does this info come from
game files
hmmmm
and i can confirm it because some rooms have starcatcher in them in outer rim
hmmm
i think i will need more information on whatever that means because that's so confusing
the sky background in outer rim is also called ||the firmament|| apparently?
so are the stars different in rain world?
which is where the dust comes from i'm pretty sure, the dust that falls from the sky to match the rising of the void sea
i see
who knows
people probably have better theories than i do
but i think so
i'm wondering why they wanted to catch the stars in the first place
also still doesn't explain why there is rot on the can
maybe it's relating to dust
how it even got there
i thought rot was developed by five pebbles?
but maybe i got it wrong
and there's a lot of theorizing on outer rim being the literal edge of the world, and there are iterator parts in the rubble in outer rim plus ancients/the depths architecture
it's all very confusing 
yeah.. i'm wondering about that too
you've been to unfortunate evolution right?
me either until someone pointed it out 
yes
it was the most shocking part of the campaign
i really want to know about the big rot creature
pretty sure it's a rot void worm
ME TOO
i thought i was gonna die
still doesn't explain anything about it
if that is in fact the iterator can of five pebbles then i got basically no aswers on why there is a void worm on it
perhaps it was always inside pebbles but we never see it?
would be odd
if the lore does in fact not connect to downpout
maybe pebbles was trying to solve the tripple affirmative by making a creature that could do ascend others and ended up making something similar to a void worm
no idea honestly
also considering where the rot thing is in outer rim
maybe the rot wwas put there intentionally?
as it seems to be on the very middle of the structure
that would be cool really. like if he just decided to try to work with it because it would eventually kill him like he wanted i think
as if it was put there so it didn't reach the outside since it almost looks like it's floating inside of an empty space
and much faster than just waiting until he collapsed as a structure
maybe
still makes little sense
it does 
also i've always thought that the void worms look like
they are or have some form of parasitic being in them
like their heads and the tendrils coming out of their bodies look as if they were attached instead of being a natural thing
yeah
especially the fact that the rot guy talks about having been something (i'm assuming an iterator) but doesn't want to be associated that way anymore (?)
i'm probably misremembering his dialogue in its entirety but he does talk about having been something before his... idk what you'd even call that
yeah
rot 
you're right about that ngl
i'll have to see his lines again to remember a little bit
i always thought the head was very odd too in survivor's ending, it being so small in comparison to the rest of the body
yeah they look really odd
for it to be parasitic would be interesting 
it's one of the theories i've had for a long time
but there is really no way to prove it
i wish he still talked 
also considering that the leviathans are supposedly related to void worms
them not having anything in their head besides the hydraulic press always made me thing that there was supposed to be somthing else there
and about the karma flowers at the end
i don't know if i get it
but maybe considering that the rot absorbs other beings as a way to spread itself
and when slugcats die they leave behind a karma flower
could be that the rot is using those beings it consumed to somehow make all of those karma flowers?
as if the karma flowers were created by the death of all beings that make the rot
honestly that ending makes no sense in my head yet
or what the purpose of the rot guy is
it will probably be answered when they make the next endings
hopefully
please please please please
i hope so too

content update one comes out
drops another cliffhanger ending
devs supply no context for another 6 months 

i'd cry
let's hope that doesn't happen
well at least i still have content to play in the game
i still need to do a lot of expeditions
and play the inv campaign
me too 
i was so sure we'd met another iterator in this dlc
the sadness when it didn't happen
also i barely talked with the echo
i got to 6 karma and then made it ascend
i don't even know if there is more lines of dialogue or if anything happens after you get more karma
anyways
i believe that whatever the next big update is they will remove the rot at the lower left side of the throne area that connects to the 4 portals
also
they need to somehow fix those laser lizards that have wind around them
i got softlocked around 5 times by them after going through a pipe and encountering one at the other side
the wind somehow puts you inside of the walls
and
what the hell are the cans at signal spires
iterators?
surely not
but they look like the original superstructure concept art that was supposed to be pebbles
hmmmm
you're right about that 
i've heard a few theories on watcher being over multiple timelines for that reason
especially with people thinking fetid glen is a future version of salination because of the matching rooms
yes i think fetid glen is supposed to be salination but in another point in time
the multiple timelines thing i don't know
it doesn't seem like there is a reason for it to be multiple timelines
i believe it simply is 1 timeline that you see in different areas at different points in time
yeahh that's what i was thinking honestly