Returning to Rain World with The Watcher!

[lethal kernel]

aight i think am gonna hop off now

[limber willow]

Oop

[lethal kernel]

thanks for joining!!

[limber willow]

Wawa

Thanks for the stream stormysito!

[lethal kernel]

<@&1137895527271379055> that place which i think is called "Daemon"

i entered there once, and then came back
which i dont think i was supposed to

[limber willow]

Whoever is in the call rn, take care you all!

[lethal kernel]

now am at lowest karma

[last portal]

there's a symbol that appears next to the portal that leads there I'm pretty sure?

[lethal kernel]

yee but to use that portal, do i have to be at max level? which is that symbol

or i can now go whenever i want since i have unlocked max level

[last portal]

Yeah

[lethal kernel]

now i have to farm

thanks tho!!

[lethal kernel]

and i need a karma flower too or that isnt needed?

[last portal]

No need for the flower

[lethal kernel]

[last portal]

It'll be more obvious when u go back there

[lethal kernel]

aight then it should be a bit better

[lethal kernel]

<@&1137895527271379055> am i meant to use abilities here

i only found one portal in this region and it takes me back out of this place

which i dont think is what i have to do

[ornate dawn]

Try it and find out

[lethal kernel]

i sure hope it takes me some place new and not back

i dont wanna go back to that terrace region

why are the blue fruit expoding!!

am i at least close to finishing this game
am getting a bit angy now

[lethal kernel]

am i at least close to finishing?

am actually starting to reach my limits so if am not, am gonna probably take a break

capacity for rain world is wearing off

i thought this was an end game region but it took me to another region with explosions so

i cannot tell how much is left

[coarse gust]

It can't be linearly definable. Technically you have had the facilities to end it for a while now if you had prior knowledge of what and where exactly to do. But of course that'd mean missing on much exploration in between.

If you want a small assist to stave off frustration; || have you hibernated yet inside of the Terrace place? ||

Also tbh idk what blue fruit explosions you're talking about

[lethal kernel]

when i enter stormy coast from the Daemon region, there are explosions around the place

mainly at the outside regions
idk if that because of daemon, or its just the region

[lethal kernel]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

naa i think its too much for me
like there are way way too many regions, i dont wanna spend time roaming that much, like the appeal of most regions to me was lost after having to keep coming back without actually knowing why

it just made me feel like am in a loop

[lethal kernel]

i was there

i started there after i returned from the daemon

but i didnt know what to do there, so i went around, went to rusted something, denned there, and now am using that place to farm levels to get back to daemon

was terrace where i was supposed to be

[coarse gust]

If you denned in terrace, you've unlocked a new quirk in your sleep screen UI

It could give you better direction rather than mindless exploration

[coarse gust]

Ohh bahahah

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-bird-struck-talking-larry-okaycool-gif-26770751

[lethal kernel]

hmmmmmm

lemme check into that and see
i might have missed it

@coarse gust what is it that is new

i still see the same thing that i once did
that is just the maps with the purple rings and the yellow ones too

[coarse gust]

Yellow rings

Any ideas on their meaning?

[lethal kernel]

Yes echoes.

Ahhh do I have to visit more?

I thought their whole idea was just to get me to max level

[coarse gust]

Have you noticed your karma wheel?

Compare your lowermost symbols to what the lowest symbols looked like when you were starting off

[lethal kernel]

Yeah it looks like it just takes the highest 5.

Ahhh!! Does my current max level have to become the new lower most?
That'll take another 5 echoes

[coarse gust]

Buuuut... now you know exactly where they are

[lethal kernel]

P.S. this is not my observation.
Kalum told me this when he wanted to know my max level right now

[lethal kernel]

And no I don't. I still have to roam those regions

Okay yeah am pretty tired of hunting echoes.
Am just take a slight break for a bit.

Am I the only one whining on the campaign's length?
I have a feeling I am lol.

Because it seriously feels too much.

[coarse gust]

Def better than gambling with all the regions though haha.

The campaign is indeed long, but l do feel happy getting my expectations' worth

[lethal kernel]

Yeah but this is just way way too lengthy

[coarse gust]

Took me about 25 hours on my run

[lethal kernel]

@echo dagger you lied to me!! At this rate I think I'll end up having to get to all echoes

[lethal kernel]

I am at the 25 hr mark now lol.

[echo dagger]

huh? no

[lethal kernel]

I have like 5 echoes on my map and it seems I need to get 5 echoes to turn my current max to base level

[echo dagger]

you dont need to do that

[coarse gust]

You don't HAVE to

[lethal kernel]

Wha

Bwhdudksidbhdnd

[echo dagger]

would you like some advice on where to progress?

[lethal kernel]

Wait then.... what on earth do I do!!

[coarse gust]

My answer was based on your main woe so far

Which was karma plummeting

[echo dagger]

you are in the endgame now 🙂

[lethal kernel]

Oh no the main woe is the excessive exploring with no real direction.

Maybe coming from a more linear game to this has made it more difficult

[coarse gust]

If you farm surplus echoes .. you won't get karma added, but you will get karma taken away from the bottom.

[lethal kernel]

What....in the.....

[coarse gust]

Until poof. You are permanently at the top one, and dying stops affecting you

[lethal kernel]

Ahh yeah that is very true.

[lethal kernel]

Where is pebbles!! Where is my iterator!!

[echo dagger]

@lethal kernel yay or nay 👻

[lethal kernel]

Hmm......

Does it have anything to do with Daemon?

Or is Daemon just a lost cause.

[coarse gust]

But yes. If that echo hunt doesn't feel worth it; take a pointer from kalum and you can streamline your game

[echo dagger]

yes, but not daemon itself

[lethal kernel]

Hmm......

[lethal kernel]

Does it have to do with Throne?

Or Outer Rim?

[echo dagger]

the throne and outer rim are entirely their own thing

[coarse gust]

That's a layered answer hahah

[echo dagger]

no need to worry about them

[lethal kernel]

But I have gone to Daemon.
I have tried all my abilities there.

And I still have nothing but leave it to go to Terrace or Stormy Coast.

[echo dagger]

you already found what you needed in daemon, you just didnt recognize it as the right way.

[coarse gust]

Don't overthink daemon too much

[lethal kernel]

Wha....

Is the right way gonna result in me exiting Daemon?
Or it'll be something within the region itself?

[coarse gust]

You only found one thing of note in daemon

[echo dagger]

former

daemon is merely an inbetween 👻

[coarse gust]

A hub, even

[lethal kernel]

Okay so far I have found 3 things there.

1. I can't die.
2. I can leave to go to Storm Coast (if I go to the complete right and portal out with my ability)
3. there is a ripple portal there to reach shattered terrace.

And there are a million karma flowers.

[echo dagger]

I gotta get up and get ready for the day but
IF YOU GET STUCK AND WANT A DIRECT ANSWER ON WHERE TO GO: ||Shattered Terrace.||

[lethal kernel]

Aight see you then!!

I'll probably wait a bit and then unspoiler.

But if you saying Daemon is a middle path to where I need to go, I'll just get back there.

It doesn't have anything to do with me going to Shattered Terrace or Stormy Coast right?

[lethal kernel]

I just need confirmation on this.
I'll camp out in Daemon till the end of time trying to figure it out then @echo dagger

[lethal kernel]

And also @coarse gust

[echo dagger]

🙂

[lethal kernel]

[echo dagger]

but uh.

Warp Ability Mechanic Spoiler: ||Warping with a flower always has a random destination.||

[lethal kernel]

I went here

And then I went away from it because I didn't find squat

Well guess I gotta get back there.

[echo dagger]

remember the tried and true: explore more where you havent been before

[lethal kernel]

[coarse gust]

Good luck

[lethal kernel]

[lethal kernel]

is that....

is that a frickin ancient?!

there were many of them
walking upright

@coarse gust @echo dagger am making tangilble progress
am so hap

thank you so much

also the ability initiation has more use than the actual invisbility ability

🕴️

[lethal kernel]

wot

the

heck

<@&1137895527271379055> we done!!

[candid marlin]

YO

[lethal kernel]

but am just left even more confused than first playthrough survivor

[candid marlin]

congrats

[lethal kernel]

thankssssssssssss

what the heck is the ending?
am i just a lone catto till the end of time

[candid marlin]

maybe

[last portal]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rain-world-grass-worm-gif-27507583

[lethal kernel]

aight am gonna go lore dive now

because i actually dont know how i feel on this slugcat campaign
ig it feels too disconnected, tho that is what it is meant to be

maybe after lore learning i will appreciate it more

[surreal mason]

GG!

[lethal kernel]

have you done The Throne stuff?

because.....

<@&1137895527271379055> is this thing gonna eat me?

he seems to be a person of sorts but who tf knows at this point

also rip sleep

i should have not done this

[surreal mason]

yes i have done it

[surreal mason]

[lethal kernel]

naa nope i think this is gonna be a bad ending

[lethal kernel]

i think i'll stay away from it, just watch it on video or something

[surreal mason]

do you want to know if its a bad ending or not?

[lethal kernel]

yes please

i mean bad to a degree is okay
this is getting creepy

idk why i bought little nightmares if i cant handle this lol

my tolerance for things like this is very low

[surreal mason]

you can interpret it differently

but i wouldnt say its bad

[lethal kernel]

okay that very very clearly means bad lol

if its up for interpretation then its very like, at the face of it, gonna look bad

anyways screw it ig i'll try it since i am already here

[surreal mason]

good luck!

[surreal mason]

i dont know myself

[lethal kernel]

nope i am gonna watch a video

[surreal mason]

[lethal kernel]

i kinda feel a bit sus on the whole thing lol

[surreal mason]

okay what do you consider bad

[lethal kernel]

Aight there are 2 parts to this.

1. the rot actually opened up and something came out. That already is unsettling for me, just in general I don't like that kinda thing lol, irrespective of the game.
2. if it has to do with the rot, it's very clearly not something that can be good.

And 3) am too lazy to figure out how to get this ending

[surreal mason]

@candid marlin i need some help here

[candid marlin]

what's up?

[surreal mason]

stormy doesnt know if he wants to get the ending

[candid marlin]

it's up to storm I dunno

[surreal mason]

due to it being bad or scary idk

[lethal kernel]

Scary mainly.

[surreal mason]

its not very scary

actually yits barely scary

[lethal kernel]

Hmmmmmmm.....

[lethal kernel]

The issue is if it's scary of not. Foggy is not able to determine that.

Because if it is scary, am skipping it 100%.

So we need your help to determine that

[candid marlin]

define scary

[lethal kernel]

Either of the following:

1. jumpscare ||like nine sols part you know lol||
2. unsettling. Like something that's creepy or so.

Like for instance even this rot opening up to reveal whoever tf that is was not something that could settle all too well with me. So can use that as a reference point.

[candid marlin]

tbh it wasn't that scary or unsettling

the ending itself

[lethal kernel]

Hmm.....aight ig I'll wait a bit and then see.

Again have to figure out this ending lol.
Does it involve anything outside of OR? Like do I have to go back to other regions?

Or I move forward from here?

(I guess I'll den up in the throne maybe I'll figure out then )

@surreal mason am too invested in a lore video, I think am skipping the 2nd ending and viewing it right now

But now I actually am appreciating the main story line after understanding what it is.
It's actually really good.

(Just ig not my thing to dive into lore research in game lol)

[surreal mason]

what did you think

[lethal kernel]

Main ending, beautiful. Like very sweet too. I didn't know it was one single echo all this time, but actually a good ending.

The other ending......
Well first of all glad I didn't do it. Because if daszombes is right, I ain't traveling 17 regions to take over with rot. So that's a win for me lol.

But also that ending is even more weird.
I might pull up the wiki to read the exact dialogues of the prince. Just to see what actually went down.

Not sure if the greater void is something that would like actively shut down all this rot.

Or maybe it knew what the prince was up to and maybe he himself went too far and screwed his own plan.

[lethal kernel]

so...............what happens to this post now?

is it gonna be purged

[surreal mason]

The game is still being updated

You could try the updates

[lethal kernel]

oh

wait then when in the heck is the actual full story line gonna be released lol
or is this gonna end up coming in parts for a long time

[surreal mason]

idk

[lethal kernel]

i see

[surreal mason]

The endings are finished for now

I cant see the future so idk what they will add

[lethal kernel]

am calling it now, they will release new stuff that will render both endings useless

[surreal mason]

Hopefully more endings

[lethal kernel]

well at least the rot ending
i think the good ending is a nice proper one

[surreal mason]

I liked the rot one

[lethal kernel]

i mean it looked cool

but what in the heck was going on lol

[surreal mason]

They are probably gonna add pearls or something

Maybe we could take them to ancient urban

Idk.

[lethal kernel]

maybe but who is there to read them out to us

or it would be cool if we do get to see another iterator

[surreal mason]

Would be cool if we could meet an ancient for the first time

[lethal kernel]

like a proper one
not this prince type, if he even is an iterator

[surreal mason]

Besides echoes

[surreal mason]

Hopefully

I missed moon

[lethal kernel]

i missed everyone

i was actually hoping for the dlc to be a continuation on the existing world but alas
still the lore aspect of this one is quite niceeee

once i figured out what it actually was lol

[coarse gust]

The new updates were described as "final endings and more cryptic content"

And were said to be rolled out across the next 6 months approx

So yes we do have a vague idea of the nature of them and their timeframe

This is also why the Console release is delayed

They'll only drop the watcher on console when the game's completed

Who knows, these Final Endings sound important so maybe they do have a big reveal that knots it in with the "existing world"

[lethal kernel]

Pls I hope everything is dropped at once.

If I knew the dlc wasn't completed, I would have actually not played it now and waited.

Kind of a half way experience this way.
Like there's no urgency for me to play the game anyways.

[coarse gust]

It's not a halfway experience at all

The current content is a complete story with an ending. Two endings even.

There's just more story they will be able to offer us in time

[lethal kernel]

yeah that is chrue
but it still feels a bit wack that you wouldnt release it all at once

and i didnt even know that there was more stuff coming lol
i thought this was a fully complete dlc

[coarse gust]

They would have if they could

They were supposedly rushed to a deadline

[lethal kernel]

well that sucks

[coarse gust]

They made watcher in like one and a half years

[lethal kernel]

still dont know why they would rush it
its not like the rain world community is gonna run away to something else

[coarse gust]

Yeah l have the same sentiment

[lethal kernel]

kinda makes no sense
very dedicated community this game has

[coarse gust]

I wish they'd just delayed it instead

[lethal kernel]

anyways lets hope that the console release is full and final

whenever that comes, which i hope is this year heh

[coarse gust]

Yea they did say within 6 months or so

[lethal kernel]

this post shall once again become active in 6 months then

unless it gets deleted lmao

[last portal]

Inactive posts won't get deleted

They just become inactive (moved to older posts & hidden from the channel list) but you can reopen them at any time if someone talks in them