#Oh... I was not ready for this

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strange galleon
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I though I might pay a visit to ||Five Pebbles||. HAHA, nope, that's not happening. I'm nearly at a loss for words right now. It's 2:40 AM and the ambient sounds are giving me chills.

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Well, that was... different. No karma increase?

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Since I started a thread I might as well ask, what's up with the Chimney Canopy map?

rocky owl
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yeah, i was pretty surprised when i opened a map in a region i had just gotten to, and found some of it already filled in

of course, i ended up going to those places anyway xD
...i noticed a trend, pretty quick. once i had a look at the parts of the map that were already filled. ill say that.

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for me, i couldnt decide between going to see five pebbles first or looks to the moon first x'D too hard of a choice! so i ended up going back to outskirts, and explored there

for me, ||farm arrays|| was the first map i noticed seemed... oddly specific

strange galleon
# rocky owl yeah, i was pretty surprised when i opened a map in a region i had just gotten t...

I'm not sure what you're describing, but it sounds intentional, and not at all like what I experienced, which feels like a bug. Let me explain. Parts of my map are completely empty aside from room transitions, even though I've been there, and the parts that are filled in don't look like the rooms they're supposed to be. It's seems to me that all the map geometry is displaced upwards from where it should be.

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I'll take some screenshots to clarify what I mean, just let me open up the watcher's campaign, which I closed after finding the echo and haven't opened since, and go back to- ||what the HECK?!|| ||Did that echo YEET me off a CLIFF?!|| Anyway, nevermind about those screenshots, I have more interesting things to investigate now.

strange galleon
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Nevermind, nevermind, I got screenshots anyway. This is Outskrits, specifically the loop on the right, above survivor/monk spawn. I ran all the way around it, and none of the rooms are visible. And that bit of map in the top left corner? That's supposed to be the gate that leads back to Industrial Complex, but it looks nothing like a gate room. <@&1137895527271379055> Is there a way I can fix my map? It's really souring the experience.

covert knot
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weird bug

dusk plaza
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This is worse than the regions menu bug

covert knot
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have you tried turning it off and on again

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the classic

bright glacier
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nice bug hunterkek

strange galleon
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Well, I've closed the game and reopened it. I guess could try reinstalling, and maybe start a new save

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I fixed it. I'm very upset right now. Why does The Watcher require paid DLC purchased separately? It was only on a whim that I decided to buy Downpour along side The Watcher. If I hadn't, I'd be outta luck. Also, why didn't The Watcher enable More Slugcats automatically? Why is the dependancy pink and blue instead of green and yellow? What does that mean?

dusk plaza
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The Watcher doesnt require MSC, its standalone

strange galleon
dusk plaza
rocky owl
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probably worth tossing into the bug report form

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i only had one bug, and that was when i left the shaded gate to the shaded side, re-entered the gate room, and everything froze

it's apparently a real specific bug, cause i saw someone else post a clip of that exact thing happening xDD

next patch, that was fixed! O:

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definitely worth submitting bug reports when you can.

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maybe someone else has the map bug too

strange galleon
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I don't know where to submit a bug report

strange galleon
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Why did chieftain suddenly appear? I've given them several pearls already, but I didn't see any scavs at all last cycle.

strange galleon
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Let me recap some things I've learned. The path to GW is blocked by rot, so IC now only connects to CC, SC, and Outskirts. CC was made a dead end rot, but there was an echo there, which said something cryptic and kicked me back to IC. I haven't been to CC yet, but I know there's an echo there, assuming none have been removed (the CC echo was where I expected). Outskirts has had the way to DS blocked by rot, like GW, so it only connects to FA, a region which also has an echo.

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Hypothesis: ||Both CC and FA have been made dead ends, and I need to visit their echos, which will also send me back IC. Once I've seen all 3, something will change. I don't know what it will be, but I'm sure this journey is only just beginning.||

strange galleon
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PEBBLES!

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Why red friend not follow?

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To be clear, that's not a rhetorical question. I'm trying to lead him to a den and it's not working for some reason.

rocky owl
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holy shit you befriended a red lizard????

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thats metal af

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(the red lizard probably can't path back to it's own den from that direction. so it's hesitant to go to the bottom of that pole?)
(...but tbh ive seen red lizards do some crazy shit, so i have no idea what tiles count as possible paths and what dont)

rocky owl
# strange galleon PEBBLES!

yeah!!!!
gosh i was so happy to see that cyan overseer ;v; confirmation that ya boi exists, at least
i saw a bunch of them while i was roaming around

strange galleon
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It was hard to find food to give him until I decided to upset the noodle flies. I took a couple noodle fly eggs back to my den, spent the next cycle hunting them all down, and that was that.

strange galleon
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Also, I finally made it to Farm Arrays. My red friend wasn't able to follow me there, but that's probably for the best. He would have made a mess of the toll gate.

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I think I'm gonna take a break now. Outskirts was an ordeal to get through, and Farm Arrays is usually worse.

rocky owl
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hmmmmmmm

strange galleon
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Also, the Farm Arrays echo is the only one I don't remember the exact location of, and I intend not to look up a map this time, so... this is gonna be a doozy

rocky owl
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hey so

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just a... hm. humor me.

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are you in farm arrays now? sheltered there?

strange galleon
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That's what I said. I passed the karma gate shortly before the rain arrived

rocky owl
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can you send a screenshot of map? the in-game one, where your slugcat stops and thinks about where they are?

strange galleon
rocky owl
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ah ok

strange galleon
rocky owl
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....huh.

...well obviously, from my message, something was supposed to be interesting here that you were gonna find yourself, lol
but maybe that was my own game doing something weird lmao

strange galleon
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I bet whatever you saw was also a map bug

rocky owl
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well, if you want to humor me again: ||go to the next room, and check the map||? xD
but also, its nothing important for now. no information needs to be given, for you to have a successful farm arrays trip on your own

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yeah it might have been a bug, for me. i swear, i thought it was intentional xDDD
but also, i /did/ go to farm arrays first, so that was before the first patch dropped.

after youre done with farm arrays, ill tell ya

strange galleon
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I have More Slugcats Expansion enable, which in addition to the extra slugcats also fixes the infamous regions map bug. I suspect the patch happens to also fix the watcher map bugs.

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I tried turning it off to see what would happen. The Farm Arrays map didn't look much different, but I did get a really good look at how messed up the Outskirts map is now that it should all the level geometry, all of it way above the corresponding room connections.

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That's strange. I can only see this in the region map menu, I think because of how the map's slow reveal works during gameplay. It also isn't because I temporarily disabled MSE; I loaded backup save from just before I disabled it. That's just revealed for some reason.

rocky owl
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huh, yeah.
i think i'd had MSC enabled at the time, so i never ran into that glitch o:

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but i remember someone else mentioning it in another thread!

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lol, yeah, now THAT woulda confused me xDD

strange galleon
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That was not good popcorn

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I know I predicted that FA would be a dead end (that is, it wouldn't connect SI or ST anymore), but I wasn't expecting it be almost completely gone. At least, I'm pretty sure this was the only path to the rest of FA.

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I have never been so intimidated by threat music on a screen with no predators. Also, the eerie ambiance from SI came back.

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"You again?" Then this is the same echo I saw in SI? That's a first. ||Also, what sort of gift?|| That's a rhetorical question, obviously.

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My hunger bar now glows and I can turn invisible. Pretty sweet gift, ngl

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Please correct me if either of those things were true before the second echo encounter and I didn't notice.

strange galleon
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A pink lizard just took me on a magical journey. First it took a shortcut from B to A, then it went back down the cliff to take a shortcut from C to A, then a vulture appeared, so the lizard ran back to A, which spat us out at D in the next room. Then it got dropwigged. What?

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What happened to this cyan lizard? He's got bits of rot attached to him? Scary

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What? I literally just arrived in Shaded Citadel moments before the rain came, but I seem to have almost the entire area mapped out. @rocky owl Is this like anything you experienced?

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I can see exactly where the paths to Shoreline and The Leg will end.

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I think this is the only part of the map that is still hidden from me.

rocky owl
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i noticed it especially since, my usual in-game goal is just to map every room in a region.

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i walked into farm arrays, and saw this

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it was so specific

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i was like 'wat'

strange galleon
rocky owl
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i though, maybe id been there before, in another game? and the map was mixing up?
or maybe the watcher had been here before? who knew

my plan was just to prime the echo and head back, and then..... welp. yanno.

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also when you said "idk where the farm arrays echo is, but im not getting lost in farm arrays today, so ill call it here" and im like "....the map's gonna show em that the echo is like. two rooms over. lmao."

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then it didnt do that pre-load map thing, so i was like 'huh. weird.'

strange galleon
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I checked the regions map menu, and I think the watcher somehow inherited the SC map from my other scugs. Apparently there's a whole path in SC I've never been through.

strange galleon
rocky owl
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lmaoooo
i figured, ah, well, theyll have whatever time they have in farm arrays, ill check back later xDD

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yeah, not all of shaded citadel was loaded for me, too

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by that point, with everything that had happened, my thoughts were like:
oh ok. youre showing me what path to take, to get to the echo. i bet.

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though i was confused why memory crypts was fully mapped out, and all the way to shoreline, too.
so i ended up checking all the way there xD

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shaded citadel echo was my third echo, too

strange galleon
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A tutorial? In MY Rain World? Preposterous!

rocky owl
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LMAO... i thought you were on your third echo the other night, ngl
i hope i didnt mention camoflaging

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maybe that was another post, ok. nvm.

strange galleon
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You didn't. I had no idea camouflaging would be a thing.

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Doesn't it kinda suck to do SC last? What good is camouflage in a place where half the predators are blind anyway?

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At least the watcher is pre-enlightened for some reason.

rocky owl
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yeah, definitely good to be glowing xD
at least it's better than doing SC first, yeah?

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i did SC last, just cause i couldnt decide if i wanted to attempt to reach pebbles or moon first, when i first started running around
i ended up deciding on neither, and going to farm arrays xD just cause the choice was too hard!

then after the farm arrays echo, i think my plan was to try the sky islands echo and chimney echo....
.... though i changed my plans pretty quick when i saw the pipe leading to sky islands AND the wall were both janked up. i think thats when i got my first hint that i wasnt gonna be seeing either of them, haha...

(and also, when i was in outskirts. lemme tell ya. i was running around for /ages/ like 'wtf wheres the entrance to drainage? i swear its right here. my first ever play through, i fell in there by complete accident. how can i not find it'

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then after a bit i go back to that room and im like '.....oh :v'

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.....and i think at some point while tryna get to chimney, i was also thinking about 'ok i always get lost and go the wrong way from here, theres three regions I can get to from industrial and i always end up in shaded, which way to garbage was-- .......ohhhhh.'
(same situation. lmao. i passed the entrance so many times before realizing what happened to it)

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so shaded just ended up being my last region to check, just cause it has an entrance to both moon /and/ pebs, and i went and fully explored everything else first.

strange galleon
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Those flashbangs were a trap. I'm not sure I can recover my karma flower. The spiders are kicking my butt today.

rocky owl
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....i spent so long in that room ;v;

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im just over here like AUGHGHHHH SPIDERS
throwing rocks at any coalescepedes rhat were a lil too big for my liking

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.......
wait theres a scavenger storehouse in industrial.

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maybe getting a lantern from there might keep them at bay, for you?
i'm not sure, i didnt try it when i went through shaded xD
but i just realized, thats an option, if youre open to backtracking

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who knows if it'll make a difference tho xDD

strange galleon
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I made it past them by just running faster, but I'll keep that in mind if I get eaten by a lizard and have to do it again. On the other hand, I could take a different route now that I've mapped out that path.

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Also, are the rotted lizards in PAIN? They sound like they're in pain!

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Is it worth checking out the paths toward Moon and Pebbles knowing what I'll probably find? I'm not very fond of SC, so I'd like to just see the echo and leave.

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WHAT IN THE WORLD?!

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What was that tool tip about crossing new frontiers, or whatever? That's not rhetorical, I wasn't able to read it because too much stuff is happening at once (it popped up right after my second teleport).

strange galleon
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What all just happened?

rocky owl
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welcome to the rest of the game! 8D

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(also i forget what that tooltip was too, lol. but i have a 'record last 30 seconds of gameplay' button on my controller, that i tend to spam whenever text happens. maybe i saved that instance, lol. i can look.)

strange galleon
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Teleporter broke? Seems intentional, not a bug

pearl wave
strange galleon
rocky owl
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i think so O:

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thats my best guess, anyway. ive seen the same thing happen, and thats what i figure
guess its a 'portal discovered!' thing

strange galleon
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I guess you can kinda see through portal a bit, if you squint your eyes and pretend it isn't distorted beyond recognition.

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I think I've explored all of Torrential Railways except this spot in the middle, which I'm pretty sure is one giant room. Only thing I can do now is pick a portal and explore a new place.

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I wonder whether portals are bidirectional. A lot happened between my first teleport an the following hibernation. I landed in TR, then found a portal to CC. I'm pretty sure there was another portal in the room where I arrived, but I quickly moved on. The I found myself in Aether Ridge. This time I know there was a portal where I arrived because as soon as I realized the place was windy I though "eff this" and tried to leave the way I came in.

But the portal didn't take me back to CC, it spat me out in a place called Corrupted Factory or something. It was Industrial Complex, but absolutely overrun with rot. There was basically no food anywhere, and what I could find upset my scug. I managed to find Echo Friend a few cycles later. They said something about going too deep and rambled a bit, then sent me back to Torrential Railways, and I've yet to use a portal since.

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I keep forgetting which bridge was above that one portal room.

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Can other creatures permanently migrate through portals? The first time I went to CC there were two salamanders on my tail that got dragged through with me (which was one of the reasons I didn't stick around the portal room). Could these be the same guys, or is this just a really big coincidence?

strange galleon
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Alright, I've done some experimenting, and I've concluded that portals are normally bidirectional. I've also learned that consecutive portal use (i.e. multiple portals per cycle) is penalized. The penalties I've observed are as follows

  1. Nothing
  2. A small debuff to my camouflage timer, indicated by the glowy bar partially turning purple.
  3. The glowy bar turns completely purple, and attempting to camouflage will make me pass out briefly. Possibly a movement debuff, but I might have imagined that. More testing required.
  4. Complete portal misfire. Will leave me stranded in some rot infested hellscape.
    I'm in what I think used to be Garbage Wastes right now, and I intend to die rather than hibernate and become stuck in this place for any length of time.
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Infested Wastes, huh? Also, broken map.

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The IW map disappeared after I opened and closed one of the other maps.

rocky owl
rocky owl
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yeah, i was like 'oh christ. ive been sent to the upside-down.'

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when it happened to me. lmao.

strange galleon
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When did it happen to you? I hadn't even gotten my bearings after the teleporting began before I got sent to that place.

strange galleon
rocky owl
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but basically yeah, portal fuck-around-find-out oopsies

strange galleon
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These plant things I found in TR are weird. I couldn't tell before over the sound of the rain, but they sound like spears when I pick them up, and like rocks when I throw them at the wall. Not all what I expected.

strange galleon
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Another broken portal. Or maybe closed is a better word

strange galleon
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The super saiyan worms are poisonous and make me sick for the rest of the cycle. They give at least two food pips, though. Might be good if I'm about to shelter.

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Also, it's nice to finally engage in the rain world first playthrough tradition of naming stuff you don't know anything about.

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I'm so annoyed with this, btw. I was so close to connecting those parts of the map. I blame the worm.

pearl wave
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Super saiyan worms lol

strange galleon
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Their map icons are super saiyan hair

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I saw the icon before I saw one in person, and I expected them to have defensive spikes or something.

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Also, I finally found a new shelter in Coral Caves

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Update on the SS Worms: They give exactly two food pips, and eating two of them is enough to kill a scug outright.

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I don't think I mentioned this before, but earlier I stabbed a worm with a spear, and when I pulled it out, it had some blue gunk on the end. I bet I could poison other creatures with that.

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YES! I found bubble weed! I've been looking for these. There's lots of deep lakes to explore. I'll keep one in my stomach and leave the other here for now.

rocky owl
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and then like. iunno. i hit the 'use' button. which is also the eat button

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and i ate both and im like. watching the little 'munch munch munch' animation. and vaguely thinking, '...lil morbid for something that i thought was lantern-mouse adjacent, but aight. i guess, food source.'

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i tab away to look at the map, and i just hear the 'DUNK....' death noise and im like
????
did something eat me? did i stand somewhere bad???

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and im purple ._.

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(also, first one i ever saw was rivulet colors, leaving through a pipe as i entered the room)
(having just come from playing a gourmand run before this game, i was thinking of the little 'hint lead-you-somewhere slugcats')
and i was just like
RIVULET???

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theres a meme format for this but i cant remember it. eventually i will, and ill have something prepped for telling that story, like with the poison control scribble. lol.

strange galleon
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I think these two spots are the only places left to explore now. One is a gap I think I can cross with squidcada flight, and the other is a portal room to lands unknown

strange galleon
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Did I just get spawn camped by a vulture?

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Did he come through the portal with me?

rocky owl
strange galleon
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It was both extremely difficult and tedious to do. I consider it worth the effort, once, but I'll try the portal beneath the lake now.

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Hey, that's not fair! I found a new area fair and square. You can't just take it off my map!

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New Region Unlocked: Rusted Wrecks

rocky owl
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aaaaaan i love rusted wrecks <333
iunno maybe its the color palette, but i love it.

strange galleon
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I hate the color palette specifically because it's impossible to spot those stupid frog parasites. I need to figure out how to kill those things. Don't tell me, I'll find something sooner or later. Oh, and I found the Sunlit Port, but I went back to RW to keep exploring.

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It's very pretty tho

strange galleon
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Spore puffs can knock a parasite off me and kill it. They can be hit with rocks if I spot them before they get me, but I haven't managed to get one with a spear yet. As I'm writing this, I realize that I should have tried eating one after killing it. They fall off if I go through a portal, but that's not a convenient solution.

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Going forward, I still want to stab one of them with a spear, for catharsis if nothing else; I need to try eating them next opportunity; and I'm going to carry a spore puff in my stomach until I'm ready to leave this region.

rocky owl
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oh shit i didnt know about spore puffs! i knew about portals, but i didnt know about puffs. i thought those were just for the centipedes in the area, lol

strange galleon
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Maybe it's too soon to ask this, but are there any other ways to get rid of them that you know of? Having to rely on portals to shake them off sounds positively awful.

graceful harbor
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hmm... I've gotten them off via snail pops before, and apparently they can drown

rocky owl
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so, what worked for me was:
||find some leeches||, ||turn invisible||, ||hop into the water with the leeches||.
what happens is ||they eat the frog, and ignore you||.

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||symbiosis, motherfucker||

strange galleon
rocky owl
graceful harbor
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💖

strange galleon
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Deja vu much? I think the structure of this room (submerged tunnel + air pocket with bubble weed and pearl) is basically identical to a room in Drainage System.

strange galleon
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I've suspected for a while now that teleporting resets the rain timer, and I just proved it. I teleported out of an active flood. It's moments like these that make me wish I was recording my gameplay.

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Another closed portal

strange galleon
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It looks like west Rusted Wrecks is shaping up to be even more of a labyrinth than east Rusted Wrecks. Also, I actually have no idea where that shelter is supposed to be. I don't even remember how it got on my map.

rocky owl
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i love west rusted wrecks <3333
west rusted wrecks, my beloved <3333333

strange galleon
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Do you think you could give me a tour? I can't figure out how all of these rooms connect.

rocky owl
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i basically lived there for like. ages.
just tryna map it out.
i ended up feeling like a new york native, just knowing like 'ehhhh, you make a right turn at the fuck-a-ma-call-it, and then a left on alberquerque ave, and if youve hit the baby centipede buffet youve gone too far'

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xDD

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lol, sure!
what you tryna find, the shelter?

strange galleon
rocky owl
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lmao, im legit literally about to be like 'boutta take a left turn at albequerque ave' here xDD

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took me a bit to realize that once youve hit ground floor on the outside, the only way back in is through that center divit
...also, once youre in that center bit, you basically. just gotta go in there. lol.

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but yeah, i'd swooce on over to that first room, swooce on up to that upper pipe on the right, and be straight home. lol

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then, in the room with the shelter (and that long middle horizontal stretch), i'd just zwoop to the right pipe, out and up the right pipe in the next room, then take the next down-exit (and sneak past the white lizard that likes hanging out there, lol), straight to baby centipede buffet in the room underneath it

strange galleon
rocky owl
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.......and then try my hand at the portal to the right, lol

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lmao, i almost never ended up in the east side of chimney canopy, just cause there generally wasnt much for me there.
so during the chimney canopy section in watcher, i'm over here tryna map out the whole thing (cause. well. guess ive made that my go-to goal when im meandering xD), and im like '..........where the fUCK am i'

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god though. absolute pain and suffering, when i got stuck there during an expedition as gourmand, or when i got stuck there as artificer

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i dont remember how many tries it took me to get that goddamn gold pearl and get out of there. but omg. i'd be like 'yeah, i'm good, i just gotta make it to the popcorn plant on the other side and-- ....wHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M ONE KARMA OFF????'

rocky owl
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ahhhhh, yeah
i just always ended up on the right side so much xDD i forgot, you can get up there on the left

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actually, i think that's where i entered originally
but yeah, once youre in the middle bit, you're on a one-way express lane, you just gotta merge back onto the loop, lmao

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oh, i think i have a video of ending up at that area for the first time

strange galleon
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I think you got your lefts and rights mixed up?

rocky owl
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and then
this music started playing
@-@

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....i probably do.

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okok, restarting that sentence. lol.
i ended up on the FAR left side for the most part. so the only way back in was to get to the middle section.
but when i first arrived, i arrived on the FAR right side

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relative lefts and rights, lmao.

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but also im one of those motherfuckers who holds up my index and thumb on the steering wheel whenever im told to make a left or right turn

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at some point, you just accept thats how it be.

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way easier than making the wrong turn, and then... having to re-merge onto a non-metaphorical expressway loop, and have to make a stupid amount of non-metaphorical u-turns to get back on the correct highway.

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lmao

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oh but yeah, have you heard the music that plays there @-@

strange galleon
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Dunno, might be a spoilery thing. I've heard the threat music.

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I'm gonna finish this cycle, then spend some time studying the map in conjunction with what you've shared

rocky owl
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ah, no worries, then ill hold off

strange galleon
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...I think I've been everywhere, actually, unless this room or the main hub room are hiding more exits I don't know about

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I'm beginning to understand how it all fits together, but I still think the map is a cluttered mess, even by Rain World standards

rocky owl
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gosh yeah, its a total mess
but such an exploitable total mess
especially with invisibility. but like, even without it, sometimes you can just book it 2-3 rooms away from the lizard thats hunting you and forget you were even chased in the first place xDD
i dont even hide from the ||yellow that dens just below the shelter room||, i just book it like im cutting someone off in traffic, LMAO

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uh, lesseeee.

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id say, wander around a bit more until the cut corners are mapped in. sometimes, theres something there that doesnt show up until you can like, see the exit pipe.
.....i did absolutely backtrack too early in some regions (nothing specific. just, in general) cause i didnt explore to the edge of a room, and missed a progression pipe slughollow

like, in terms of progression, i agree, i think youve mapped it all saintunyoy i don't think youre missing anything you havent already found in this downtown manhattan of a motherfucker, lol. you gucci.

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iunno i havent been back here in a while. lol.

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uhhh. hmmm.
i thiiiiiink i see something you might not have mapped yet.
in the room thats ||center stage on the most recent screenshot||, there might be ||a pipe in the top right corner||...?

strange galleon
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I'm finding new regions to explore faster than I can explore them. I could go to sunlit port, aether ridge, that ? mark region, or could try to do squidcada flight in Coral Caves again. The ? is the portal in west RW, I think.

strange galleon
strange galleon
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I might have found the music. It just started playing as I fell down on the left side of the hub room. Whatever it was, it wasn't threat music

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It wasn't associated with anything else interesting though. Must just be one of those songs that just plays in certain areas

strange galleon
rocky owl
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probably no trigger. just 'some bop that plays in the region'

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but omg. when i first heard it, i zoned right the fuck out and vibed xD
(i ended up in a room i had no idea how i got to, just cause i was running from a lizard on auto-pilot while i was tryna pay attention to the music. lol.)

i had just got done being nostalgic about my first time i'd ever gone into shoreline, and then that song pops up, and it felt like being in shoreline for the first time again <333 love it so much. (i need to find the name of the song, fr. but thats a later thing.)

rocky owl
strange galleon
#

I guess we're playing Wind World now

strange galleon
#

How do these guys survive? I have yet to find any food in this place nor any other creatures.

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I hear echo friend

graceful harbor
strange galleon
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No food...

rocky owl
#

maybe a detritivore

strange galleon
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Oh, this is interesting. Where are you taking me this time, friend?

rocky owl
#

...and opportunistic omnivore/carnivore, since. it eats you too.

strange galleon
#

Wait, I recognize that region. Why is it connected to Desolate Tract?

rocky owl
#

which one?

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the one youre focused on in the pic?

strange galleon
#

Yeah

rocky owl
#

that's where you came from, yeah? DT?

strange galleon
#

I assume that means Friend sent me there

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I met Friend in Desolate Tract

rocky owl
#

oh!
....wait you can see the map on that screen 8V
omg. i... never checked.

strange galleon
#

I'm confused because usually when Friend sends me somewhere, it's a one-way trip, so I would expect it to not be connected on the world map, like when I portal into rot hell.

rocky owl
#

for this, i will hold off on commentary, unless asked to explain 👍 (cant think of any casual comments lol)

strange galleon
#

There's a portal where Friend dropped me that takes me back to where I was.

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It basically explains itself

rocky owl
#

casual commentary: unlocked
lmao. yeah. i thought they were all one-ways, too.

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i think i didnt go back to check one for ages xD

strange galleon
#

What's weird is that when I went through the portal to make sure it would take me where I expected it to, I got punished harder than I expected to.

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My camo is gone, and my vision is warping

rocky owl
#

ohhh
......how many, uh.
when did you sleep last

strange galleon
#

This is only my second portal

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I slept in DT

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That's why it's weird, I expected this after the third portal

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That didn't take long

rocky owl
#

DT -> Sleep in DT -> tp to TP by Friend -> return to DT?

...hm, yeah, iunno.
i didnt have as much of a thing with that, except for when i got stuck in a loop of getting yeeted between portals xD
but i think that was a thing that was patched at some point, iunno-- yO LOL

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motched with it

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absolutely motched with it

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...good to know that even snails still find a way, even here

strange galleon
#

Wait a second, in the corner there! Isn't that one of the guys from DT?

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Now that I'm looking for it, I can see that I've been debuffed already. Still don't know why, but whatever

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Hello there. Mind if I pass on through?

rocky owl
#

these things are the reason i started picking up grenades ._.

strange galleon
#

these things are the reason i started picking up grenades ..
...
these things are the reason i started picking up grenades .
.
...
grenades
I like the way you think

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I can eat them. Best use of an explosive spear ever. Yes, even better than killing a DLL

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Now I just gotta find shelter

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And of course they were guarding the way to the nearest den as well.

rocky owl
#

i wonder if i have a clip of like. when i was so fed up with them, i went inviso and stole from a scav.
(i never steal from scavs ;-; i care SO much about what they think omg. buddies)

i just. blew up a whole fucking wall of them. LOL.

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......THEY'RE EDIBLE!?!

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HAHAHAHA

strange galleon
#

They sure are! I ate 4 of them

rocky owl
#

tbh, ecology 101.
If something walks around like it owns the place, it probably does.
if something hides under a bullshit infuriating shell, its probably aint shit on its own

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...and if something looks like it aint shit, but it walks around like it owns the place anyway...

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..hang on imma check the chatlog before i share a meme

strange galleon
#

Thank you SO much for that. I might never have thought of exploding them

rocky owl
#

its such catharsis. fr.

strange galleon
#

Seriously, scugs are menaces

rocky owl
#

i almost never fuck with explosives, cause 9/10 times i blow my own ass up with it, or i panic-throw it in a tunnel

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ok checked the backlog

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yeah nah, these things:

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walking around like they own the place

strange galleon
#

Oh yeah, don't eff with the colorful ones

rocky owl
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..because theyre brightly colored sea creatures.
and brightly colored sea creatures dgaf

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dont even scramble like lantern mice

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if something doesnt lose its mind when you pick it up, there are probably consequences for picking it up. lmao.

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ecology is fun

strange galleon
#

Oh no! I missed a spot in DT.

rocky owl
#

i think the place i blew up the bullshit-crabs is a place we've both been to, so if i find the clip ill share it xDD

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DT was honestly really fun to explore, ngl.
something about just being able to book it, and see how far you can go in a direction, was just super appealing.

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(climbing poles in the windy areas sucked ass though xDD)

strange galleon
#

Actually, what are the odds that if I book it up that pole it'll take me straight there?

rocky owl
#

i dropped down that big chute that leads you to the ground level by accident, and was like AAAAA, and had to scramble up the pole to get back to the shelter (totally didnt make it, it was end of cycle)

strange galleon
#

Wait a second, does this shelter not have a ceiling?

rocky owl
#

....huh

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...im getting so much use out of these emotes.

strange galleon
#

I've changed my mind, I have to go back and check these things

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Oh, wait...

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Yeah, I'm seriously stuck here until I find either another portal or a way into that room from above

rocky owl
#

this place is an absolute maze ._.
but, i think its doable. godspeed slugdab

strange galleon
#

I think I found it.

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Should I do it?

rocky owl
#

...i ... dont know what that second picure is

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i have never been there slonkeyes slugclose

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thats DT, right? color scheme looks like DT

strange galleon
#

It's just to the left of the portal. I made a habit of running to the edge of every screen in DT

rocky owl
#

....ohhhhh!!

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ok yeah i never got past the wind, lol.

strange galleon
#

There is a ceiling I guess, but it's apparently so high up I can't map it.

rocky owl
#

more tenacious than i, in that instance

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lmao could spear the wall and make a ladder

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just for shits and giggles

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aint no shortage of debris here

strange galleon
#

Maybe later. I don't want to accidentally hibernate

rocky owl
#

oooo yeah fair

strange galleon
#

Made it!

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I mapped the den on the way back

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I did it

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These guys have been in pretty much this exact spot every single cycle. I like to think they're scared of me now.

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Oh look, it's the portal to Coral Caves

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I think I'm gonna call it a day now. I finished up Rusted Wreaks, explored all of Desolate Tract, and met EF again. Also, I have karma again. Maybe I can use it to open up more portals.

rocky owl
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actually nah, dont even need the spear, the brick is enough of a statement piece

graceful harbor
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these things know theywill be pelted

strange galleon
#

That's weird. I expected there to be a portal here

rocky owl
#

...oh wait, isnt that where you portald in? o:

strange galleon
#

This is where I portaled in from Coral Caves

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I gave up on going that way because I had to kill a monster kelp, starve, and find a white squidcada just to cross that one gap

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Also, I'm not mistaking this room for another, because it was marked on my map before I got here, so this is definitely where I came in

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Also, Friend is nearby again

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That was weird. They didn't say anything at all. Did I upset them somehow?

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Oh well, new karma unlocked

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Off to the Heat Ducts, I guess

rocky owl
strange galleon
#

I was gonna make a joke about how friendly this place looks, but what's up with that tooltip? I think I missed part of it (again)

rocky owl
#

oh!
yeah you missed a tooltip.
want me to go get it for you?

strange galleon
rocky owl
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i had a clip of the tooltip, i thought. cause i missed the first half, too xD and had to do a 'clip prev 30sec' to read it

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but i couldnt find the clip

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passenger in a car on the hell expressway from previous metaphors, and reading tiny clip text on my phone is extra hell l m a o

strange galleon
#

They gave me a new ability then? Until I test it, I'm gonna assume that "unstable and dangerous" means it counts 2 or 3 consecutive portals. Maybe 4, but that seems like a bit much

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Apparently it counts as two portals

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Wait, I should sleep first, stupid

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It could be something completely unrelated to the debuff, like the fact it dropped me a screen or two in the air

rocky owl
#

saving before fucking around and finding out is always advised, regardless of game.

strange galleon
#

Oh... what did I just do to this thing?

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I'm in a bit of a pickle

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Probably karma for ripping out that poor thing's whatever-it-was

rocky owl
#

oh... yeah ive just. gotten stuck in those. lol.

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once i had a spear and i just. BARELY made it out

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oh wait shit you did a down spear--

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1- sick as hell

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2- unfortunate

strange galleon
#

Yeah, I should have put it in the wall

rocky owl
#

lol, i know you can wall jump off stuff if you even like, get your head against the wall. useful for slightly high wall jump entrancea

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but iunno if that would get you anywhere

strange galleon
#

I thought of the down spear when I saw how many burners I had to run across

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I didn't even think about what to do if I fell down

rocky owl
#

....also did you know that reading in stop and go traffic is hell. lmao. cause it is.

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ive chosen my suffering today

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welp, you fall down once, and then you go '.........welp. aight.'
as it is with most rainworld stuff

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...tryna think of a funny anecdote for that but i may have to come back to that later

strange galleon
#

It do be like that

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Yoooo! We monky now monksilly

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How do I keep finding them so quickly?

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Also, they're still giving me the cold shoulder

#

I spawned in, paused to write message, and when I unpaused, the portal activated and I somehow died during the teleport process

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It spat my corpse out back in Heat Ducts

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This is what I'm looking at now

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Oh, this is a lightning storm. I got struck by lightning! That's just what Rain World needed

rocky owl
#

lmao i got a clip of getting YEETED across the screen from lightning

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2 seconds into that region and im caught by 3 lizards, shot at by scavs trying to get the lizards, and then blown to kingdom come

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it was awesome

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xD

strange galleon
#

shot at by scavs
I haven't seen any scavs in ages

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Sounds like a good time though

rocky owl
#

maybe they like me more u3u

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lol jk jk

strange galleon
#

For the player that is. No so good for the scug

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Went through a portal a bit ago to hide from the rain. I didn't stay in Cold Storage, but I did find this room before I died (yeeted by wind)

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Who put these lizards in cages?

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Friend is here. I'm starting to sense a pattern

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Good to know we're both lost, Friend

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This place is pretty

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Scav friends! Speak of them and the shall appear

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Also, I levitate now? I'm trying to figure out how it works

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I can no longer turn invisible while running away from a lizard. I'm not sure how to feel about this

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Sometimes rifts in reality open up around me. They seem loosely correlated with my use of the special button, but I still don't know what makes them appear. Purple voidling things sometimes appear as well

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I died and now I don't levitate anymore. Is it tied to my karma level? Are any of my other abilities tied to karma and I haven't realized? (These are rhetorical questions)

strange galleon
#

They seem friendly

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I wish I could carry a back spear so much right now

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Heh, nice job filling out the map

strange galleon
#

I tried teleporting with karma flower protection, and I went to a place called the bad lands and immediately died. I'm starting to think that tooltip overstated the difference between teleporting with and without a karma flower

strange galleon
#

I really want to get to this pipe, but I don't know how. It's too high for me to grapple to, and all my other ideas are insane

rocky owl
#

yeah iunno how to get to that pipe, either ._.
i heard someone mention this: ||that it's a return path||? like, ||from another tower||?
which makes sense to me. but i havent checked, myself.

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lmao, though. i saw that pipe and was like 'hm ill check that later' and like.. didnt x'D

strange galleon
#

You know how I said my ideas for getting up there were insane? I decided to try one of them, and it didn't go well

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In case it isn't clear, I wanted a vulture to grab the grub and then fly away while I hitched a ride, but they kept going for other creatures in the room

rocky owl
#

honestly??? coulda been feasible, fr

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also lmao, when i first saw the whales, i thought you had to grapple worm onto them xDD thats how i was travelling at first

strange galleon
#

I wouldn't say you're wrong about the sky whales. You can totally ferry your way across massive gaps with them, though they're somehow even less consistent than rain deer

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Well, unless there's some item they like that I haven't discovered yet

rocky owl
#

yeah i just bounce around the room in the open, like, "waitin for the bus in the--" ....well, actually, the rainless region

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waitin for the bus in the rain works for raindeer

strange galleon
#

Waitin for the bus in the perpetual sunset

rocky owl
#

waitin for the bus in the rainofkingvultureharpoons

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ok. ok. so. when i got to signal spires. i think i lucked the hell out.
scav group that had been there, also attracted a king vulture
and one of them just, fuckin. DECIMATED it. that thing was DONEZO.

and there was no rain timer.

so i had as long as i wanted, to try to get that mask off xD

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so i just ran around signal spires with a king vulture mask. top tier. OP as hell. thank you scav friends for the murder. no i will not be sharing the mask stay out of my shelter. (lmao)

strange galleon
#

That was a good song, btw

rocky owl
#

my first ever mask, on my first ever play through, i straight up just came across in outskirts
i knew about vulture masks, and i was fresh from tutorials, so like

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get this. i legit thought it was a placed item.

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i thought you just happen upon them. like how you happen upon pearls, right before a scav toll.

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i was so confused when it wasnt there again after i died and came back
LIKE... NO SIGN OF FIGHT, IT WAS JUST THERE XD

strange galleon
rocky owl
#

also, hell yeah, that song's great. welcome to nightvale is great.

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...hm, maybe it was industrial?

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it was early game enough that i genuinely didnt know how insanely i'd lucked out

strange galleon
#

Did you at least scare a lizard with it before you died?

rocky owl
#

...hm, yeah. mightve been the far right side of industrial. had those platforms that i might be mistaking for outskirts in memory

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lol, maybe! xD

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i bet i died to something dumb like the rain or a poleplant

strange galleon
#

Nearly a full minute of scavs getting in my way

#

I finally made it through Rain World's most annoying karma gate. I had to cut the clip in 2 due to Discord's file size limitations

strange galleon
#

These sky whales have got to be the chillest creatures in Rain World. Also, I was so close to just getting a ride straight to Echo Friend ages ago, but the whale turned around halfway there

strange galleon
#

This rift is still here from last cycle? How long is it going to stay?

graceful harbor
#

those stay forever i think. or several cycles? unsure

strange galleon
#

This room is so tall. I keep expecting to see EF on the next screen but it just keeps going. It's really building the suspense

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Karma level 6 unlocked, if I counted correctly.

strange galleon
#

Heh. I don't think I was supposed to be able to go here. The level geometry doesn't match.

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This den is bugged. It took my grapple worm.

strange galleon
#

What is that?

rocky owl
rocky owl
rocky owl
rocky owl
#

i thought i was being so clever, when i saw the gap there.

strange galleon
#

Echo Friend won't talk to me, and there's nowhere else to go in this region. There's no rooms I haven't been to, and no portals to go through except the one I came in by. I feel like I've hit a dead end, which is weird, because the last time I felt that way was about 140 hours of Rain World ago when I got stuck in Drainage System, and I later found out that it wasn't a dead end, I was just blind.

What should I do now? I feel like there should be more for me to do here.

dusk plaza
#

You cant do much for right now

strange galleon
#

Uh, how did that get there?

#

Moments like these make scav friendship worth it.

strange galleon
#

I think this is the first portal I've found that connects back to a region I've already explored. There's a lot of regions here. (The portals connected to Aether Ridge don't count because I haven't actually explored that place yet.)

strange galleon
rugged urchin
#

yeah but, the echo location, i'm not sure if this counts as spoiler but ||i'll just say it's the last place you should be||

strange galleon
#

It probably does count as a spoiler, but I had kinda inferred that already. Welcome to non-linear game design!

rugged urchin
#

and a very damn confusing one in that regard

strange galleon
#

I'm still working out how the warps work, and it seems to just keep getting more complicated with each new observation. I'm gonna recap what I know so far.

I can warp on command with special + up buttons. This consumes my karma protection if I have it, and if I don't, the warp is "unstable and dangerous," according to the tooltip.

On the occasions where I tried the "unstable" warp, it took me to some place called Outer Rim, I think? I might be misremembering the name, because I never stuck around, and it isn't on my map. It does not assign extra warp penalties to me that I know of, contrary to some of my original conclusions.

The stable warps I've done all noticeably landed me in portal rooms. In my most recent warp, I learned that the portal where I arrived takes me back to where I came from, down to the exact room I was in. This new portal is marked on my map as a dashed line. I wonder whether it is permanent.

Interestingly, since I didn't have anything left to do in the prior region, I immediately went back through the portal again, but I didn't suffer a penalty for consecutive portal use. I can only speculate about why for now.

There are various "closed" portals scattered amongst the regions. By now, I'm pretty sure they don't care about my karma. I've thought about trying to open one by using up-special right in front of it, but haven't made an attempt yet. Since I learned that up-special creates a persistent portal, I've had another idea: ||Perhaps the closed portals are the connections used by the up-special warp, but they are specifically the designated arrival points.||

rocky owl
rocky owl
# strange galleon Uh, how did that get there?

lol, did you die there? or did you warp here
sometimes, i warp somewhere, and if there was a karma flower in the room, it shows up somewhere in the room i warp to xD
that might not've been what happened. but also, the last screenshot was around where that wouldve happened for me.
(since theres so many karma flowers in shattered terrace)

strange galleon
#

I love this new patch already, and I haven't even started playing yet (I'm in the region map menu)

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Okay, for some reason, I can now warp 3 times without consequence, and then 3 more times (6 total) before reaching critical condition. The 7th warp sent me to hell and I died. Also, excessive warping definitely did put my scug in an exhausted state.

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These purple region borders aren't ominous at all

strange galleon
strange galleon
#

So... it's been a while, for a lot of reasons. One of those reasons is that I really, really don't like the Badlands region. Specifically, the plague of locusts everywhere is awful, and I hate it.

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I don't think I've mentioned these purple lizards before, but apparently their tongues are equipped with lethal venom. As if tongues weren't dangerous enough already.

ornate timber
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:)

#

I never saw badlands until exploring in the post-game, but I've heard things. Good luck

undone lance
#

Badlands is quite a busy region indeed! Good luck there.

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About your frustration; there are countermeasures to be found for the locusts - so don't be scared to explore and experiment for ways to make your journeys easier!

strange galleon
#

Thanks for the support, guys. I decided to leave Badlands behind and moved on to Cold Storage. It took a few attempts to make it stick before I finally found a den buried 5 rooms deep in a dead end with only a single access point. This place is kind of a labyrinth. It also seems like hell to navigate without the ability to levitate.

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I can hear Echo Friend in the room up ahead. Is that lizard dead or just asleep?

strange galleon
#

This place seems pretty nice.

#

Well, this room sucks

strange galleon
sand wraith
#

so rainy rivflabbergasted

ornate timber
#

Dang, I couldn't even see you in that video. Close call indeed

#

As for that bullcrap room layout, here's a fun fact about bubble weed:
Bubble weed has the same capacity regardless of if you're holding 1 or 2 of them. Better to store one in your stomach and just hold whatever you normally keep there

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That is to say, if you hold 2 at once, they both drain without any extra benefit

strange galleon
#

Salination cleared

#

Hello again! I've been here before, but I don't recall this portal being here last time

#

Also, apparently I can now phase out of reality. ...Okay then?

#

Here's some before and after pictures to show what I mean

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If I look carefully, there are light spots to tell me where creatures are so I don't phase in into the middle of an ambush

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Oh my word, it just clicked. I think the reason Echo Friend didn't talk to me last time I was here was because they were hiding in this phased out space. That's why they seemed smaller than normal, but I could catch a glimpse of their full form when I used my special next to them.

#

For the life of me, I cannot decipher this game's cutsceens

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Very pretty music though!

#

Now what?

#

Hmm... This picture hasn't changed at all, I think. Perhaps that cutsceen wasn't as final as it seemed. The world map tells me there's still several points of interest to check out.

strange galleon
#

Ancient Urban is a weird place. It's downright peaceful.

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Wait a minute... That purple symbol, it marks those closed portals I've seen all over the place. It's the same symbol as my max karma! (Which I'm pretty sure is actually maxed out now. Echo Friend stopped increasing it.) In addition, that's the portal that took me to AU in the first place. Does that mean I can finally use those sealed portals?

rocky owl
smoky rapids
strange galleon
#

I found Echo Friend's old room I think. I noticed the mention of a top that spins. A while ago, I was on the wiki page about echo's and I saw a disambiguation for ||Spinning Top,|| if I recall correctly. I'm gonna keep calling them Echo Friend though.

strange galleon
#

What's up with the pipes in this room? Earlier, the top pipe was marked and the bottom one was unmarked. Now the bottom pipe is marked and the top pipe is both unmarked and unenterable.

#

So, I met Echo Friend in some kind of temple, and then they vanished and the cycle ended. Now their room is full of toys and I'm trapped here.

#

What am I supposed to do?

#

I'm actually stuck here

#

Nevermind, a cutsceen started, then credits rolled

#

Don't know what took it so long

#

Adorable

rocky owl
#

game needed to give you a minute or so to frolick xD

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lmao when i got that ending, i was actually like "nooooo cutscene dont start, im playinnn, i just found out this giant pink thing SQUEAKS"

strange galleon
rocky owl
#

yanno, apparently some people actually missed the echo's room, and went straight to the temple 8v
very sad for that
but also very happy you also found the room first in your own playthrough x)

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...omg
wait you get the infinite toy glitch

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i hear about a glitch where you can like. reload in a certain way. and get +1 of each toy.

#

ACHIEVEMENT: TOYS FOREVER ENDING

strange galleon
#

What should I do next?

undone lance
#

You've finished the first ending, so congrats on that!

#

There is a second ending which you can give a shot at now

#

Continue exploring the world to find out what it may be tied to

dusk plaza
strange galleon
#

Umm...

#

Where do I go?

strange galleon
#

What was I supposed to do about this nonsense?

sand wraith
#

well that's the first time i've seen an actual underwater portal...

strange galleon
#

What really annoys me is that I think I still have bubble weed in my stomach and I didn't even try to pull it out because I was so caught off guard.

daring flare
#

thats just super unlucky

strange galleon
#

I think my map is bugged. I'm in Outer Rim, but there's a red position marker on every other map for some reason. Also, I can't open the Outer Rim map.

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Weird things happen when I press A to open the OR map while turning the world map.

daring flare
#

oh thats really weird

strange galleon
#

Let's try this warp again

#

I made it to Coral Caves

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Oh... That warp point is right below where I'm sleeping. Guess I know where I'm going next cycle

strange galleon
#

It took me to a place called Daemon, but the only thing there was another portal that took me to Shatter Terrace. What was even the point of that place?

sand wraith
#

i think it's meant for people who havent gotten the ending with echo friend yet, but everyone's clueless on its significance otherwise so far

strange galleon
#

This poor lizard is completely stuck. It makes me want to befriend it.

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Friend

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I'm no good at names. What should I call them?

sand wraith
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they have a very pretty tail cyansilly

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Zoop, Bug, idk! i keep on thinking very silly names for cyans

rocky owl
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also fun to think about Daemon as a name.

sand wraith
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it does feel rather eerie...

sand wraith