Trying (and failing) to survive

[hoary hornet]

Sorry for deleting your initial message, it had spoilers in it. It's reposted below for anyone looking to read this thread later down the line.

I'm completely new to the game, and decided to choose Survivor for my first playthrough.
I am on cycle 7 as I'm writing this, and in my first area after spawn (Industrial Complex).
My main problems are

• Vultures inhibit most further progression (or so I feel, since I can't seem to reach the 1st starting area's topmost exit)
• I am not able to hibernate with any regularity (I only managed to get to this area's entry karma level through a karma flower, which I have now lost, and dumb luck), since I can't get enough food in a cycle (especially shorter ones).
  Can anyone give me pointers on how I can solve these problems, or tell me if they are intentional and I need to come back later?

[feral salmon]

May I ask what part of the message contained spoilers, so I can prevent posting them in the future?

[hoary hornet]

From here on down you can post as many spoilers as you want, as only the initial message is seen on the forum's main page.

However, if you decide to make a new thread, anything that you call by name. Industrial Complex, Vulture, Karma Flower

I'm not sure about Karma itself, though.

I've seen new players not realize what it's called.

[feral salmon]

hmm, is it OK if I paraphrase them?
'the flying things', 'the 2nd area if you follow the yellow guy', 'the yellow flower'

[hoary hornet]

It'd be best if you put it in ||spoiler tags||, methinks

[feral salmon]

ok, thanks for the advice!

[hoary hornet]

No problem!

[mint tiger]

As for your original post/question... I can give you some pointers, but I recommend just spending your time figuring it out. Nothing is one-way, and one of the main aspects of the game is to explore. Since you said you're on low karma, it's a good time to experiment and see what works and what doesn't, and use the period of no-death "punishment" as an opportunity to maybe just run in a direction and see what you find.
As for where you go... will give you general directions. They will be there regardless of what you do right now.
As for vultures... I can give you specific tips on avoiding them if you really want, but again, I highly encourage experimenting or finding an alternate route

[feral salmon]

I don't know if re-using these threads is the recommended way of using these channels, but

is enabling 'remix' for the 1st playthrough considered cheating, or harmful in any way?

[raven jacinth]

It's not considered cheating, and you can reuse these as much as you like (unless you have dlc content then move to there) The devs released it along side the dlc for free to add some features to the game that can make it easier, or simpler

[sturdy wigeon]

most of remix's major changes are fully configurable, you can turn them on or off

many would be considered cheating or harmful and unfortunately some are enabled by default (doesn't help that the UI is unintuitive and most new players won't know what any of the options do)

the worst one is loading screen tips, but there's a few other ones that I recommend disabling

[feral salmon]

am I the only one who feels rain world is dangerously close to being a rage game?

[feral salmon]

sets cycle duration to x1000.0

[sturdy wigeon]

No, but those who do generally either quit or get over it in the first several hours of gameplay. This generally involves a change in mindset, which often includes:

• recognizing the open-ended nature of the game and the intrinsic nature of progression
• recognizing that death has no penalty
• recognizing that every attempt, whether or not it ends in a death, is an opportunity to learn something new and gradually become better at surviving

[feral salmon]

yeah, from what I have seen, progression in rainworld is mainly 'being somewhere' and 'knowing things', unlike most other video games

[feral salmon]

A few qiestions I had:

• is it possible to 'bookmark' areas on the map, e.g. 'there's food here'?
• I know that, if I take food and hibernate, there will be less food there in the next cycle.
  If I take food, die, and respawn, will me taking food affect the supply of food available?

[sturdy wigeon]

• For the most part you'll have to rely on memory. However, the map does hint you towards some food locations.
• Nothing (if we're not getting into technicalities) gets saved upon death except for map discovery and karma.

[feral salmon]

Thanks for the info!

[feral salmon]

wait, is 'getting stuck when squeezing into holes the wrong way' intentional?

(thank god you can fix it by jumping)

[snow ore]

probably not

[feral salmon]

can you reproduce it?
just squeeze into holes in walls tail-first, or with the tail folded next to your body, and you're immediately 70% or so slower

[snow ore]

thought you meant getting completly stuck
but yea happens all the time to me, the slowdown could be intentional

[feral salmon]

I found out pressing 'jump' can fix it

[snow ore]

but that seems a very high slowdown

[mint tiger]

Yes, intentional game design.

[feral salmon]

the jank

[raven jacinth]

Yes, tis tentional

[feral salmon]

question tho, was movement designed with this in mind, or did it happen and the devs thought 'nah, we're keeping this'

[mint tiger]

My guess is seeming how you have an option to turn around in the first place, I would assume it has been intentional from the beginning.

[feral salmon]

oh wait the yellow guy has a blue brother?

[sturdy wigeon]

I don't see how it's jank

[raven jacinth]

The movement was well, designed the way it is for a reason
Try experimenting

[feral salmon]

hello darkness my old friend

Question: is there any point in the game where backtracking into previous regions is required to finish exploring those in their entirety?

[raven jacinth]

This game is extremely open world, so backtracking shouldn't be necessary unless you are STUCK

[sturdy wigeon]

It takes a lot of dedication to fully explore a region in general, but it is not a bad idea to backtrack

[feral salmon]

why do the enemies get to use pipes I can't?

[boreal smelt]

Those are not for you

[feral salmon]

also, is it normal to need like 10 attempts to get to a region that can be explored?

as in, 4 out of 5 times I get into that region with the overhang with the pipes inside (Outskirts), I get eaten by the 2 lizards that spawn there every time, and if I survive those, I only have a 50% or so chance to get to where I need

[mint tiger]

Maybe just don't get eaten by lizors

In all seriousness, yes. I would consider just about any struggle normal in this game. It is how you get past them (and eventually when you do.)
I've been stuck in this same exact place before on a different scug. It was a nightmare, but with luck and learning from death was how I did it. I believe in you

[feral salmon]

Yeah, I was just curious, because in quite a few games I have played, the rule 'if it's difficult, you're doing it wrong' holds

[mint tiger]

This game is like "if it's difficult it'll become easier the more you do it" (with a couple exceptions of things just flat out being hard lol)

[feral salmon]

I'd like to see anything where this isn't true

[mint tiger]

I can point them out as they come, otherwise, I'd be spoiling

[feral salmon]

oh no, I mean, in general, I have yet to see anything that doesn't get easier with practice

(even outside of rainworld)

[mint tiger]

Ohh. Well, in that case I can say that Rain World is just real life :7

[feral salmon]

wait, does the game play with the bite success chance during default sandbox?

[feral salmon]

oh no,
I just realized I'm not allowed to post here anymore since I've restarted the campaign with the DLC