#Rain World Book Club

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rotund gorge
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It’s fine!

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Don’t let me stop you.

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But yes, Saturday CDT would be better for me, if that doesn’t inconvenience anyone.

dense pecan
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I forgot to schedule a reading earlier, usually I'd prefer Saturday toomonknervous

swift bobcat
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5pm cdt is like 6am over here, so I'd prefer it be a little later if that's ok?

maiden tulip
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rivapprove i wont be able to join Saturday so i wont be available. Hopefully it goes well though!

balmy flame
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2-3 hours would be very helpful for me though

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Wait, it’s Sunday

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Nvm I’m good either way

hazy rivet
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have we decided a time?

dense pecan
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At the moment it's sort of between 7pm tonight or 7pm tomorrow

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CDT

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I'd prefer 7pm tonight, just because it gives people time to mull it over before we really start talking about it on Sunday

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But I can also work with whatever, I'd like to maximize the number of people who can come

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And, if it would make timezones easier, I really dont mind doing it twice

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That's not a precedent that other readers should feel pressured to follow, though, I have an unusual amount of free time at the moment

hazy rivet
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I'm totally fine with either

balmy flame
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I put my vote in for Sunday

maiden tulip
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Sunday monksilly monksilly

dense pecan
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Alrighty, looks like it's Sunday 7pm CDT!

slow lance
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Cool hunterglee

dense pecan
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Tabula Rasa reading in 4 1/2 hours

balmy flame
exotic stirrup
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Hm. A shame. I have to be in bed in 2-3 hours >.>

earnest cradle
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Europe struggles slugpensive slugpawshake

balmy flame
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Europe struggles

paper steeple
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im going, still gonna struggle thoslugpensive

balmy flame
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Europe suffers

dense pecan
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if I did another reading in about 30 minutes would y'all europeans be able to be there

balmy flame
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Double reading

dense pecan
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@exotic stirrup @paper steeple @earnest cradle

earnest cradle
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I'm not sure if i would be available sluggrimace

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Though i appreciate the proposal slugheart

paper steeple
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it is a really nice idea!!!

dense pecan
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slugheart I just don't want to exclude people

paper steeple
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tho i would prefer the bigger group, its fine for me to stay up a bitmonkforbidden

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thanks tho

exotic stirrup
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I appreciate the offer :3

although given I have already read Tabula Rasa and went crazy in the murder mystery (just look in the comments) I don’t want to put additional strain on your voice

dense pecan
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np! I'm always able to bend schedules, I'm sorry it's outside your time zone

earnest cradle
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Yeah i don't think i'd be up for this cause a reading 1-on-1 would be maybe awkward slagony /lh

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Thanks, though slugheart

radiant forge
dense pecan
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30 minutes!

paper steeple
rotund gorge
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Wish I could join.

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Alas, life.

dense pecan
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we'll miss you cele

dense pecan
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I can't believe mr beef himself attended the book club this time

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if he's even real

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wasn't there like, a mr beast worshipping club that got shut down like two years ago

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huntershruggy further evidence that he's not real

hazy rivet
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wha?

dense pecan
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I just, every so vaugely remember there being a forum or something that kept joking about him being the patron saint of vc until someone shut it down for being a little weird to make a fanclub for someone who you'd never spoken to

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it was when I was only lurking though, so it might've been a once-off general conversation

balmy flame
balmy flame
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Book club bump rivflabbergasted

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First ever

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Anyway, do we know who’s gonna read the second half of TR?

queen bluff
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Me waiting for Yui_Cheshire's fic:

hazy rivet
queen bluff
hazy rivet
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there are a lot of those

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idk that author, did you nominate the fic?

queen bluff
hazy rivet
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it's a pretty popular thing yeah

queen bluff
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I am unaware of the customs sry

hazy rivet
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ah! sorry!

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we nominate fics and then vote on which we want to read c:

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you're welcome to nominate one

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most of the fics nominated so far are things people here have written, but we have a few from other authors

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here's the current list

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We're currently reading Tabula Rasa

queen bluff
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Alright then

dense pecan
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I'd planned on reading the second half, if that's alright

dense pecan
balmy flame
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No that’s what I thought too monksilly

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We have no new volunteers

dense pecan
hazy rivet
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More beads reading 👀

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Are we doing the same time?

dense pecan
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I think atm it's Saturday at 4pm cdt, If I'm remembering last week's feedback correctly ?

paper steeple
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works for me!

topaz perch
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wharg chapter are we at I need to catch up

queen bluff
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Ch 4 iirc

topaz perch
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oki dokie

hazy rivet
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we're reading the last 3 chapters live on saturday c:

topaz perch
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I have marked my calendar

swift bobcat
balmy flame
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If only the earth was flat slugpensive

maiden tulip
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the earth is flat

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yall are ignorant

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smh

topaz perch
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the earth is actually slugcat shaped

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obviously

balmy flame
queen bluff
topaz perch
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yea

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I live under the left ear

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that's why it's so hot here

queen bluff
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I live at the right leg

topaz perch
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whats going on by the kneecap rn?

queen bluff
topaz perch
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cool monksilly

queen bluff
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The pacific ocean is the underbelly

burnt drum
maiden tulip
willow sparrow
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nonono, the earth is a rock floating in space in a white void with bananas floating around

topaz perch
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NO NO NO, it was all a dream the entire time

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You have to wake up

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What do the numbers MEAN, Mason?!?!?

serene saffron
topaz perch
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What do they MEAN!??!

willow sparrow
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the Earth is just a simplification of ‘where the heck am I’ actually I think

burnt drum
burnt drum
maiden tulip
burnt drum
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Damn.

topaz perch
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yarg

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I am caught up to chap 4 now

paper steeple
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nicemonksilly

paper steeple
topaz perch
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Peak fiction. The characters feel complex and like they have a detailed history. The mystery is really intriguing so far. As a chronic mystery addict, I am hooked. Brass' musings are also pretty entertaining. The portrayal of the RW universe is really well done; it feels like the author really knew their shit.

topaz perch
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I'm honestly stumped as to why an iterator would want to kill their neighbor (er, memory wipe). I wasn't really sure how a protagonist resigned to a metal box was going to work in the beginning but obviously I overlooked the possibilities.

paper steeple
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its gonna be great

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(or tomorrow, not sure)

topaz perch
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it's tomorrow for me

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You know a story's good when it makes you want to write

hazy rivet
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cy is one of the best writers here for sure saintsmirk since you're liking TR, I highly recommend browsing his oneshots once we're done

worldly sentinel
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you're all too nice monklove

swift bobcat
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So, is <t:1739052000> correct?

burnt drum
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I might be able to jump in.

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A bit late though, my shift ends at that time.

swift bobcat
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It's extremely early in the morning for me so slugpensive

balmy flame
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the world will explode when we get European reader

topaz perch
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One time I was in a DnD group where the DM kept adding more and more people

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And we eventually had one person for almost every time zone

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It was a nightmare

queen bluff
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Damn

swift bobcat
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MMOTRPGmonksilly /silly

dense pecan
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@balmy flame can you do the magic time zone thing

balmy flame
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<t:1739052000>

maiden tulip
balmy flame
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Epochs already did it

dense pecan
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Ooh okay, I missed it

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Thank you though!

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Magic time zone powers

maiden tulip
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yall are lying fr

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the earth is flat

balmy flame
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Magic monkdevious

maiden tulip
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theres no such thing as timezones

balmy flame
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That's because your flat earth theory doesn't include the time wizards

maiden tulip
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time zone wizards

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do you think im stupid? wizards dont exsist

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SMH

balmy flame
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The government's clearly just hiding them

topaz perch
balmy flame
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I mean, how do you stop a time wizard?

maiden tulip
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what

serene saffron
maiden tulip
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leeches

topaz perch
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A time wizard turned my cat to dust

maiden tulip
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leeches than gain the power of human consiouness

balmy flame
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The time wizards obviously use their temporal manipulation to run the government

maiden tulip
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and theyre hiding em

serene saffron
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i have those

maiden tulip
balmy flame
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So the leeches are the time wizards? huntereyebrow

serene saffron
balmy flame
maiden tulip
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time wizards arent real

maiden tulip
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wait

balmy flame
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damm time wizards

maiden tulip
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you are?

serene saffron
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i mean

maiden tulip
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GOVERNMENT SPY

serene saffron
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thats classified

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you saw nothing

maiden tulip
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GOVERNMENT SPYYYYY

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GET HER

serene saffron
maiden tulip
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GET HERRRR

balmy flame
serene saffron
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too young to be working for the government

balmy flame
maiden tulip
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your lying

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youre 27 years old

topaz perch
serene saffron
balmy flame
maiden tulip
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AUGHAGUAGHAGH

serene saffron
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trigger warning?

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you guys be making everythingn a tw nowadays smh

hazy rivet
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misc please hunterclose

maiden tulip
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The idea of multiple timezones is very offensive to me

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oh yeah

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sorry

hazy rivet
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fun police is here

maiden tulip
serene saffron
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first squares then houses now timezones

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oop

rotund gorge
balmy flame
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Tree will be running late to book club slugpensive

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Speaking of which, 15 minutes until book club hunterglee

paper steeple
paper steeple
radiant forge
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Gonna be late, devastating slagony

paper steeple
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seems to be slow right now anyway? i think you still have timehunterglee

hazy rivet
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@dense pecan are you still reading today?

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👀

dense pecan
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!!! Yes!

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One second hang on

earnest cradle
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My internal battle of "this sounds cool" and "I have already read this/not sure if i'll be able to listen to all of it" slagony

radiant forge
hazy rivet
earnest cradle
hazy rivet
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last three

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welll you've already read it

earnest cradle
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Also it's a classic instance of "you are your worst enemy" slagony

radiant forge
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But you already- yeah slugcheerstothat

hazy rivet
balmy flame
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Thanks @dense pecan for reading hunterglee

paper steeple
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Tabula Rasa my beloved. Still my favourite rw fic so far. Beads did it more then justice, the reading was great!!!monklove

balmy flame
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Shame I wasn’t there for it slughands

paper steeple
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The last three chapters are by far my favourite section in the entire story. The way it all just escalates more and more only for it to end so bitter sweat is just heart wrenching.

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after the last chapter, chapter 5 is probably also just my favourite. the way the entire group is just arguing with each other while favours begs them to stop even tho it is just making them suffer more is painful.

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and i think it has been stated enough already, but the first chapter is just such a great set up. it pulls you in right away and wants you to see more of it. its such a cool concept, i just cant describe it.

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forgiveness is just the best. i love her so much. i wish things coudl have ended differently but there is just no way for anything to ever be good between all of them. the reset was probably the only option and it hurtsmonkwail

sterile quarry
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aw shit i missed it...
...again...

paper steeple
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brass is an ass, forgivness is an ass, truth is an ass, and favours is just there, and i love them all. they are so perfectly flawed, none of the main three are good by any means and its just depressing to see how far they have fallen when you compare it to what they once were. i suppose in the end you can only wish that the reset will give them all a fresh start, a blank slate if you willmonksilly

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great writing cy, i will never not tell you to be proud on yourself for that story, and thanks to beads for reading! great book club meeting really, and it was also lovely to see a few new facesslugpraise

hazy rivet
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TR is absolutely my favorite RW fic still

rotund gorge
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While you were preaching, I watched a compilation of every time Frieza has said monkey.

hazy rivet
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it just all comes together (or unravels, depending on how you look at it) so perfectly

paper steeple
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also i will never stop gushing abotu the parallels of the fake brass apologising while the real one in the end doesntslugscrem

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its sooooo good

rotund gorge
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Also, it is good.

paper steeple
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also brass and forgivness didnt kiss in the end, so actually its the worst. 0/10, would not recommendhunterangy

sterile quarry
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pfft

paper steeple
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wait huh?

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my friends are outside my housemonkbigeyes

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its almost 1am

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gimmi a sec

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wth

rotund gorge
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Hold on.

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Why?

paper steeple
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alright

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i got a bit of track there

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but yes, tabula is a masterpiece and i can only recommend it to anyone that has not read it. i will even recommend it to people who have read it. i will probably read it again just because i can.

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also i still wanna know what happend to best boy scav in the end. like, he surely will return. will he ever get his full payment? will he and brass befriend each other? those are the real questions herehuntercool

topaz perch
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Yeah what will brass do to him post memory wipe?

swift bobcat
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Ah, I couldn't get here in time after all slugpensive

rotund gorge
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Should’ve woken up earlier. /j /lh

dense pecan
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Okay, my thoughts on Tabula Rasa:

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I'd only skimed it, the first time I went through it. It'd been recommended to me so many times, for now what I can see was good reason, and I'd gone into it initially with a sense of necessity. I was pleasantly pulled into it, unable to keep myself from falling in love with the characters which Cy had created for the setting, but my readthrough was regretfully rushed. This second readthrough, however, I was able to experience it far slower as I read through word by word, and by god what an experience it was. Many credits have been laid out for this work, undoubtedly in part by others within this group chat, and one credit in particular that I'd like to applaud is the realness of the antagonists. It's so difficult to write a truly believable antagonist (or antagonizing forces; it's not quite as clear cut as to say there is an antagonist), but I believe very strongly that 'evil' is a writing tool that should be used so lightly as to only be rarely seen. Ignorant, well-meaning or cornered characters, whose actions are so driven by who they are that the end result is almost inevitable is the driving force behind quality conflict, and even more so when considering the mystery genre that Cy flawlessly utilizes here.

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The mystery genre usually requires that we understand the outcome, and by way of understanding character and situation, reverse engineer what has happened. With such a scalpel-sharp grasp on his character's personalities, needs and desires, it's no wonder that each moment was exactly where it needed to be, and no bitter word wasted.

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The names no doubt took time to consider: Hollow Brass Sphere, Life Sprung From Forgiveness, Truth Undenied...

topaz perch
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Well-said

dense pecan
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Each name tells us exactly what's going to happen, before we even know the context of the setting. Brass is a machine of metal, repeatedly hollowed out by the factory reset protocol. We know the name before we ever know the reset.

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Life Sprung From Forgiveness, which this may be stretch and Cy will have to confirm or deny the theory, may refer to aspect of the story which revolves around 'after' their reset. The epilogue, which was never written, but we can hope that there was life after the forgiveness of the reset, or after Brass' own forgiveness which was a chance at new life after the factory reset's utilization

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Truth Undenied, I believe, is a reference to Truth's immediate ownership of his actions when directly confronted with them. In the moment that we know the name, there's a string tying us already to the fact that there is something they hide, or at least an unyielding bluntness of their personality; a value of nobleness, however twisted, and in the precious importance of protection, preservation, fault, ownership, and truth.

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It was lovingly heavy with symbolism, my favorite in particular being the color of the pearls

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The orange of the initial pearl which led Brass to begin his investigation, the color of fading coals after a fire. The original pearl an obsidian black, like the coals or ashes of a fire that's gone out, relit by the red pearl of the final reset

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An overarching theme is that of helplessness in the face of a doomed eternity, one that's shared by the original media and many other works inspired by it, but I think Tabula Rasa is among the best in its succinct utilization of the inevitable catastrophe of eternity. The love that is there between the three of them is subject to change, and will be subject to change, and it's not outside the realm of possibility that there will be more factory resets as they face down their eternity together, well after the events of Tabula. To me, there's a gentle sense of imminence, an inescapable forgiveness, in the fact that they will be near one another until the very end, and that each one of them truly wants nothing but comfort and safety, and a connection with their friends.

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In the words of another game whose mastery lies also in change, inevitability and the wretched gentleness of unyielding, passing time: proximity counts for a lot

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The elegance of Tabula Rasa lies in its style of telling, and the fact that from the very beginning we're given the threads to follow, so that by the end we can see the way it was woven so clearly that upon returning to the beginning, the end of the story is already present

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thank you very much for writing it Cy, I'm happy that we got to read it for the book club. It's become a new favorite, not just within the pickings of Rain World but also when placed next to the many other works, original and otherwise, that I've experienced. I look forward to reading whatever else you might write in the future slugheart

rotund gorge
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This is incredibly well-put.

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I am not a person of many words, but I agree wholeheartedly.

hazy rivet
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Beads this analysis is incredible monkbigeyes

slow lance
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Hello lizblueblep

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How did the meeting go?

dense pecan
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monklaugh I like literary analysis a lot, I do it for fun sometimes. I haven't done it enough for the other readings we've done here

dense pecan
slow lance
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That's good hunterglee

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I'm not the biggest on literary analysis and symbolism, but I liked the fic

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It's very yummy and has good suspense

hazy rivet
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TR really is just that good

dense pecan
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book club reviews are always very positive, I don't think you'd ever see a lot of criticism in it, and besides there's a ton to praise hfish for

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slugpensive I will save it for the official reading though

slow lance
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Mhm

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This hunterthis

dense pecan
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monkdevious which is inevitable

slow lance
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HFish was my first rw fanfic and I really enjoyed it

hazy rivet
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Unless I never add it back monksmug

slow lance
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Good start

hazy rivet
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I also just don’t think it’s really suited to just reading like the first six chapters or whatever, all the stuff that’s good is later

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But anyway, I don’t wanna derail the convo from TR

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there’s so much you could dig into in it

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I wish I was better at analysis sluggrimace

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Especially retrospective

slow lance
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Best character is the scav

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Loved the fella

hazy rivet
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Hmmm…. I’m torn on who my fave character might be

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I do think cy has done a really masterful job at making very flawed characters likeable and sympathetic

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No one is fully in the right in this story

topaz perch
hazy rivet
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Except maybe the scav mercenary, he’s a real one

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I feel for everyone slugwhy they’ve all been dealt a horrible hand

slow lance
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You won't sound dumb, I am certain

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Also without practice how can you get better?

hazy rivet
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I really do hope, with everyone wiped, they can come together again… that things might be better, this time rivplead

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And I think cy made the perfect choice to have brass join them in the memory wipe again. Equal footing, no pretenses…

topaz perch
topaz perch
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they still had the logs about favors right?

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I'm pretty sure they did

hazy rivet
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It’s a blank slate, full wipe. Brass got those logs from forgiveness

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At least, I’m pretty sure he did? huntereyebrow

topaz perch
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nuh uh

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"For a brief moment, he considered leaving the mark off of their logs, wiping away all the history and bitterness between them entirely. But Favors did not deserve to be forgotten, and, perhaps, they could learn something from their past mistakes."

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the old old logs are there

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or at least some of them

dense pecan
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And it also says that they'll figure some stuff out on their own

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plus, we don't see forgiveness' side of it. She might've had the foresight to save some things

topaz perch
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She was like, obsessed

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So I think she would have locked the libraries like she said she would

hazy rivet
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Hmm, but didn’t she use the original pearl?

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The one that full wiped brass?

rotund gorge
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Probably the best start you could ask for.

topaz perch
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ye?

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so?

hazy rivet
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He sent it back to her, but I guess he could give her the logs after

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I suppose she could just alter the program before she uses it

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Maybe I just need to reread the end monklaugh

rotund gorge
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I do think they all understood the assignment.

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Except Truth. Poor old Truth didn't know anything was even going on between the other two.

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Probably for the best.

dense pecan
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I found a song that reminds me of TR

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Specifically from 2:09 on

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If I were capable of animating I'd make something for it, but so far it's a slow thing to learn

dense pecan
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Don't temp me monklaugh

slow lance
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Writing essays is still writing 🔥

rotund gorge
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Gave it a listen.

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Huh, this reminds me a bit of split personalities.

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Also TR, but that too.

dense pecan
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huntershruggy it's not exact but it is if you squint

hazy rivet
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I see what you mean

swift bobcat
slow lance
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Honestly remembering the past is necessary to avoid making the same mistakes

worldly sentinel
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I haven't listened to that song (or Amanda Palmer in general) in a hot minute! That's a bit of a blast from the past.
Also, beads, your analysis left me speechless, thank you rivplead

rotund gorge
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People are making Cy's days left right and centre.

topaz perch
balmy flame
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Cy has many days monksilly

rotund gorge
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Some things do not have words to describe them.

dense pecan
worldly sentinel
balmy flame
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Anyway, I need to get to making the next vote monksilly

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wait should I also add the WPW vote in here? slagony

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democracy two for one

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probably a bad idea

worldly sentinel
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I don't think everyone interested in one is interested in both

balmy flame
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true

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ahem

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pin shuffle time hunterglee

slow lance
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Hell yeah

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Done

balmy flame
worldly sentinel
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I'll vote sometime tomorrow. I'm too sleepy for now slugsleep

topaz perch
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I voted

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I have no idea what the fics are about

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I judged a book(s) by its title

balmy flame
topaz perch
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I hate to say it, but as a reader of several years, I always judge books by their covers

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If the cover looks ugly, I ain't gon' read it

balmy flame
dense pecan
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slugpensive it's hard to avoid

topaz perch
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The only time I read badly covered books is if I have a good recommendation or I already know I want to read it

dense pecan
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I judge books by page even-ness

topaz perch
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Like Closing Time by Joseph Heller.

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Absolutely atrocious cover

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But an amazing book

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Let me send a pic

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Oh wait

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I lent it to a friend

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I'll find it online hold on

balmy flame
topaz perch
balmy flame
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(or I find them for free)

topaz perch
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Do you see this font?

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absolutely horrendous

balmy flame
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Joseph Heller classic

hazy rivet
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That is absolutely horrendous

topaz perch
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It's like they specifically wanted to avoid selling this book

topaz perch
hazy rivet
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I saw your absolutely horrendous message as was starting to type mine lmfao

balmy flame
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yeah lmao

topaz perch
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The book itself is phenomenal beyond words

balmy flame
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all the covers are ugly af

topaz perch
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Not Catch-22

balmy flame
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idk, Catch-22 is pretty mid as far as covers go

topaz perch
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All of the catch 22 covers are really pretty

balmy flame
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it's just the same figure

topaz perch
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The little dancing man is a classic

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I don't know what you're talking about

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And look at the alternative covers!

balmy flame
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All these covers are nothing special slagony

topaz perch
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I like them hunterangy

hazy rivet
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Idk if an ugly cover will deter me, but I have bought books purely because the cover was gorgeous

balmy flame
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I would not read Catch 22 if I saw just the cover

topaz perch
balmy flame
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it gets the job done

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but it's nothing I'd consider above average as far as covers go

topaz perch
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Yeah well it's not house of leaves but its charming! Okay? rivsob

hazy rivet
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Priory of the orange tree, your cover is so gorgeous I want to believe you are a better book than you are

balmy flame
topaz perch
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I'm sorry I'm a massive catch 22 shill

balmy flame
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I like Catch 22 as well but like

swift bobcat
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I judge a book by its back cover monksilly
(Honestly I don't care much for the cover art since a lot of time the art doesn't necessarily correlate that well with the content slugpensive )

topaz perch
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One book I bought solely on its cover was Player Piano

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It was the first Kurt Vonnegut book I read

swift bobcat
topaz perch
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Aint she a beaut?

hazy rivet
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I dislike house of leaves slugpensive

balmy flame
hazy rivet
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This is getting too misc though I think sluggrimace

topaz perch
topaz perch
topaz perch
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It may not be rainworld fanfic related but we are discussing books

hazy rivet
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But this book club is for RW fanfics 🤔

topaz perch
#

Yeah and we're inbetween fics hunterangy

balmy flame
#

Book club reads actual books monkbigeyes

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Book club field trip real

topaz perch
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fun police real /lh

hazy rivet
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It’s not for general book discussion, but ehhh if you don’t wanna take it to misc it’s not like I have any authority monklaugh

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We are inbetween fics 🤔

queen bluff
#

Voted

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Only knew a metaphor for something small and insignificant

hazy rivet
hazy rivet
queen bluff
hazy rivet
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I think I’d be happy with any of these fics being picked

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There are a few I haven’t read yet

topaz perch
#

Ok offtopic for a second: I think limiting channels to their specific purposes and nothing else is kind of annoying. Having to move channels is inconvenient, and I've noticed that it often kills conversations. While I don't think it's a problem to expect on topic discussion for each channel, (i would not fault asking someone to move after coming to the stories channel and immediately talking about oh, I don't know, stock prices, I also believe that it is the nature of conversations to drift from topic to topic, and in fact, they are most engaging when this is the case. I think it is kind of unreasonable to expect conversation to stay limited to one specific topic as according to the channel, even if the topic is somewhat broad.

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I don't mean to complain - it's not a big deal, just felt the need to yap

hazy rivet
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Trueee but if people come here looking for the discussion on TR and there’s a bunch off off-ish topic in here, it’s a bit inconvenient

topaz perch
#

yeah

hazy rivet
#

sorry to mess up your conversation though slugpensive

topaz perch
#

no it's fine

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I think I came off more disconcerted than I actually am

balmy flame
#

Being off topic is a stories chat tradition monksilly

topaz perch
#

🗣️ 🔥

exotic stirrup
#

Darn...

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I literally passed out half an hour prior to reading announcement

balmy flame
exotic stirrup
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Woke up somewhere 6 hours later to properly make myself bed ready

earnest cradle
hazy rivet
#

Same author right?

earnest cradle
earnest cradle
hazy rivet
earnest cradle
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Uhh, i don't think it's that bad in PHM monksilly

hazy rivet
#

It’s a Gary Stu problem for me monklaugh

earnest cradle
#

Again, been a while, but completely different protagonist monksilly

hazy rivet
earnest cradle
hazy rivet
earnest cradle
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Ah

hazy rivet
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Is often a pretty unfair accusation that’s thrown around, but man if I didn’t feel this way about Martian

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Anyway getting off topic again monklaugh

earnest cradle
exotic stirrup
earnest cradle
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Ah slugwoke

hazy rivet
earnest cradle
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  • built on top of a pool of acid /silly
exotic stirrup
earnest cradle
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Whoa why you purple all of a sudden? monksilly

exotic stirrup
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Her weak self-esteem most predominantly

hazy rivet
#

For example, an injury/past trauma isn’t really a flaw. Impatience, anger issues, stubbornness etc etc are flaws

hazy rivet
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But that doesn’t feel much like a flaw, it’s one of those likeable issues, you know?

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She thinks she’s less good than she is doesn’t feel much like a flaw 🤔

That’s like saying she’s too humble slagony or too kindhearted

exotic stirrup
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Very apologetic as well. And very stubborn in terms of defending everybody but herself

paper steeple
hazy rivet
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That’s what a flawed character is

exotic stirrup
#

Also there are other cases of her being a flawed character, but that would be a spoiler for you and Amany

paper steeple
hazy rivet
#

tabula is an excellent example of very flawed character writing saintsmirk

earnest cradle
#

Clearly brass is perfect slugfab /j

exotic stirrup
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brass is the perfect main character. Question is only ||which brass||

queen bluff
#

turn to page 374

earnest cradle
balmy flame
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Honestly though, I think “flaws” are overrated — the character just needs something to learn/gain over the course of the story to make a satisfying arc

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If they’re so competent that it defuses the tension of the story, then it becomes a problem

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(Although, sometimes you see characters that don’t change at all, in which case the arc is often the reader coming to understand their “true nature” by the end of the story)

slow lance
hazy rivet
#

you're right in that not every story needs a super flawed character driving it

earnest cradle
hazy rivet
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But I do feel like if a character is feeling flat, a lot of the time looking at their flaws (or lack thereof) is a solid way to give them some depth/make their behavior more interesting 🤔

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I would not say flaws are overrated, personally slagony

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It does depend what the author is going for, though

slow lance
#

Clearly I should base my characters on me who, as you all know, is perfect monksmug /silly

balmy flame
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I feel like far too much emphasis is placed on them in amateur writing circles like ours

worldly sentinel
hazy rivet
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a lot of self-insert narratives feel intentionally smoothed over in regards to flaws, and that's for a reason

hazy rivet
balmy flame
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I like that view

hazy rivet
#

people are flawed, so your character having some elements of unlikability, even minor ones, helps them feel like actual people

slow lance
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Make them kick puppies, easiest way to make someone a villain. /hj

topaz perch
#

Flaws always stem from existing traits that a character possesses

balmy flame
#

Reminder to vote before it closes tomorrow hunterglee

maiden tulip
#

wait

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RAH

sterile quarry
#

should have mentioned that i
uh
deleted the whole ocas thing off ao3
im kinda remaking the entire canon of it so yeah, against the world is only readable through docs if you even wanna read it in the first place
that includes into the storm by the way, but i'll add cobble into a frigid world later
sorry abt that, idk what i was thinking

earnest cradle
balmy flame
#

When I get home and tally the votes monksilly

earnest cradle
#

Ah okay monksilly

balmy flame
#

Vote is tallied chat hunterglee

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@earnest cradle
Aeolian Waves won 7-4

exotic stirrup
#

Who is the 4?

worldly sentinel
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sloggers AW

earnest cradle
balmy flame
slow lance
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SPACE!!!

balmy flame
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Anyway, I do believe it’s time for another Tree reading monkdevious

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Which is to say, my turn for Spoken Story Saturday hunterglee

bronze vortex
#

GASP

dense pecan
balmy flame
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<t:1739638800:F>
does this time work for everyone? hunterglee

muted musk
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Yeah

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It's at noon for me so I should be good

queen bluff
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morning for me lmao

balmy flame
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I’m trying to see if we can accommodate the European and Asian storiers for once slagony

bronze vortex
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YEAH

rotund gorge
little talon
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Also hi :3

balmy flame
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Well I guess this one’s for the Euros then

maiden tulip
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have fun though!

exotic stirrup
earnest cradle
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On a saturday? artiawkward slugpensive

exotic stirrup
#

The past 5.5 years already. Gotta fund my studies

paper steeple
topaz perch
balmy flame
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Ahem, after receiving some feedback, I have concluded it may be better to do the reading at the traditional 5PM est

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<t:1739656800:F>

earnest cradle
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Time to cash in my "sleep police will ignore me" coupon monksilly

balmy flame
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I suppose it’s justified

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Although you probably just wake up stupidly early slagony

paper steeple
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where can i get some?slugclose

slow lance
#

Corruption is not a thing in the sleep police hunterclose

earnest cradle
slow lance
#

Right, Anton? huntereyebrow hunterknowing @ebon acorn

earnest cradle
earnest cradle
balmy flame
#

Please do hunterglee

exotic stirrup
dense pecan
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!!!!

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I had a thought!!

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||In Tabula Rasa, there's a bit where he says that 'water from a tainted source is better than no water at all'||

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right at the beginning

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||then, at the end, when he finally finds the other slugcat, its fur color is described as "... a splotchy light green, like fouled water."||

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||the slugcat provided the altered pearl, the tained source||

maiden tulip
#

woah spoilers

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averting eyes

dense pecan
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!! you were meant to have read it by now!

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I'll spoiler it

maiden tulip
balmy flame
slow lance
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I sadly won't be able to attend

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I should be eeping at that time

balmy flame
dense pecan
maiden tulip
dense pecan
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If you want I can send you summaries of the ones we read, so you can participate with the club without being overwhelmed with the readings

maiden tulip
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SNIFFLET well i dont just wanna give up on em...i need to read more stories chat fiction anyways

maiden tulip
hazy rivet
maiden tulip
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I do hope to get reading again soon though

balmy flame
#

Book club in five hours monkdevious

worldly sentinel
paper steeple
slow lance
#

Cool lizblueblep

hazy rivet
maiden tulip
dense pecan
serene saffron
earnest cradle
topaz perch
#

I forjor

queen bluff
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Dammit I missed it

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I was sleeping

topaz perch
#

I hasn't happened yet

earnest cradle
queen bluff
balmy flame
earnest cradle
balmy flame
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I’m the reader and you can’t force me not to read backwards slugwoke

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I’m going to pronounce every word backwards from chapter 11 to chapter 1 hunterglee

earnest cradle
balmy flame
#

Downloaded monkdevious

earnest cradle
balmy flame
radiant forge
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That desk mat is so neat sloggers

balmy flame
#

Tree-Piotr boxing match for book club

radiant forge
earnest cradle
earnest cradle
balmy flame
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Leave me alone, I don’t use this PC very often anymore sluggrimace

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/j

earnest cradle
balmy flame
earnest cradle
balmy flame
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Oh wait, maybe I can do the recording thing we’ve said we’re gonna do forever now hunterthinking

radiant forge
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Aeolian Waves audiobook arc sloggers

earnest cradle
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Can't apply corrections no more slugpensive slagony /silly /lh

slow lance
balmy flame
#

I forgot how crunchy my mic is

earnest cradle
balmy flame
earnest cradle
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Wait so how will that work, recording and reading will be separate? hunterkek

balmy flame
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it is 13 minutes long

balmy flame
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I might record chapter 2 when I'm reading live

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this is practice huntercool

earnest cradle
#

Oh also how many chapters are there in plans today? All of 'em?

balmy flame
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I was going to do the first six

earnest cradle
#

Ah okay monksilly saintunyoy

balmy flame
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Maybe I could start going back through all the things we've already read and make an audiobook library? saintsmirk

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that would be fun

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and take a while slagony

balmy flame
earnest cradle
balmy flame
earnest cradle
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tree carrying stories, as usual slugfab

balmy flame
paper steeple
#

recording already?

balmy flame
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no, just warmup monksmug

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getting ready to make the AW audiobook

topaz perch
#

someone spam me when It's time to start I'm gonna forjor-

balmy flame
#

20 minutes monksilly monksilly monksilly monksilly

worldly sentinel
balmy flame
#

Dear Book Club, I apologize for forgetting to record everything after chapter one slugpensive

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Tree was too lost in the sauce

willow sparrow
#

what does the sauce taste like

paper steeple
balmy flame
#

which is to say, live reading is fun and everyone should try it sometime

rotund gorge
#

I missed it.

balmy flame
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You can listen to me read chapter one only slagony

balmy flame
dense pecan
# balmy flame

I'm sorry I had to miss it, but I'm so glad I get to listen to the recording!

balmy flame
#

Of chapter one only slagony

swift bobcat
#

Too early in the morning for me to attend slugpensive

Tho
Aeolian Waves imo is special among the rw fics I've read, there's this vibe of it being lighthearted (as in, there was barely any truly bleak moment. Somehow the vibe is that everything is going to be ok) yet serious throughout the story.

Idk, it has a very distinctive feel slugcheer

dense pecan
#

It definitely gives a feeling of being alone that a lot of the others don't, whereas it's just Waves and her cat (scug) in a space station, which is such a unique setting, I'd never read anything like it

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It was one of the first rw fics I read that helped me realize there was so much more you could do with the universe, as opposed from staying within the confines of the story told by the game

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It was also the first fanart I ever did for anything, the end is one of my favorites

earnest cradle
slow lance
#

I wanna write horror

swift bobcat
slow lance
#

Sometimes it's nice with some fluff. i saw some really chill oneshots on ao3 the other day, should read those rivclose

earnest cradle
#

There is just a dash of angst sprinkled on top, surely that did not make anyone cry? hunterknowing /silly /lh

earnest cradle
paper steeple
#

@balmy flame should we shuffle the date/time pin? maybe we could also add the amounts of chapters that we read up to as well?

balmy flame
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Good idea hunterglee

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Next one is literally the same time on Saturday

earnest cradle
#

Aaaand i've fallen ill slugdead slagony

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<t:1740261600:F>

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Here's the timestamp tho monksilly

topaz perch
#

I keep forgetting this exists-

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thank you for the reminder monklaugh

hazy rivet
#

AW finale sloggers

earnest cradle
#

Soon slugsweateyes

balmy flame
swift bobcat
#

Missed it slugpensive too early morning

balmy flame
#

Uh oh

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Guys we forgot about the vote

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Uhh uh

sterile quarry
#

um

#

uhh

queen bluff
#

uuuuuuuuuu

balmy flame
#

Uhhhmmmm

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behold monkbigeyes

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everyone go vote por favor

earnest cradle
balmy flame
#

did I?

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I'm having a senior moment uhhhhj

earnest cradle
balmy flame
#

oh yeah that

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We'll get it next time guys

balmy flame
#

Should I count the vote today or tomorrow?

earnest cradle
dense pecan
#

It's been about two days hasn't it?

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Maybe this afternoon

craggy talon
#

So

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Is joing at this point allowed?

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Joining*

earnest cradle
#

At any time monksilly

craggy talon
#

Oh

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Okay then

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And we just read stuff here?

earnest cradle
#

Yeah monksilly

#

Vote, read, discuss

hazy rivet
#

we vote on what to read and then read it together c:

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we do live readings of whatever we've chosen on saturdays/sundays

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feel free to nominate a fic to be read too

craggy talon
#

You guys hop on a call?

hazy rivet
#

hang out in vc while someone from here reads yeah

craggy talon
#

M'kay

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I guess I'll join, but I'm gonna sit out this choice cycle. Is that okay?

slow lance
#

Yeah

#

Up to you lizblueblep

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Wonder what the next fic will be

#

Wish I could do reading but no mic + not a native speaker

craggy talon
#

Oof

hazy rivet
#

I'd like to do a reading, too, but I just don't have much privacy here slugpensive

paper steeple
#

if i wouldnt fall over my words every 2 seconds i would love to as well, not happening thosluggrimace

earnest cradle
#

Anxiety says no monkcheese

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(Not like i'd be that anxious with y'all but 1. It's reading and 2. I'd still need to warm up to vc sluggrimace)

craggy talon
#

Also, what does (reply @ me) mean?

earnest cradle
#

Though it's probably redundant now that there are roles for that hunterkek

craggy talon
#

Oh

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Okay thank you

balmy flame
#

Actually, speaking of the live reading, who’s gonna do it this weekend?

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I might be able to rent the recording studio again monkdevious

earnest cradle
#

What shall we be reading tho? monksilly

dense pecan
#

Oooh tree fancy reading??

balmy flame
worldly sentinel
#

I wouldn't mind doing a reading myself

#

but if tree's gonna have the whole studio again, that would definitely make for a good reading hunterglee

craggy talon
#

Studio?

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That wasn't hyperbole?

balmy flame
#

No monksilly

#

My college has a recording studio you can book for free

craggy talon
#

Oh damn

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Fancy

balmy flame
#

I’ve gotten my hands on it a few times for book club readings already

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Anyway, the vote has been tallied:

earnest cradle
#

What if how time passes for an iterator monkcheese

balmy flame
#

This week’s winner is Hope Luck, and The Tip of A Spear in a very narrow 6-4 win

balmy flame
#

I don’t know monksilly

earnest cradle
#

What slagony

balmy flame
#

Calculations are done blind

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I could check but I’m not supposed to

earnest cradle
#

Fym not supposed to???

craggy talon
#

How does the voting system work of you don't know!

balmy flame
#

So when I move the data onto the spreadsheet, each candidate has a spot on the table

#

When I’m doing the math, I can’t see the names of the fics

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When the vote is tallied, I compare the winner’s spreadsheet position to the raw data to figure out who actually won slagony

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You’re supposed to “blind” yourself this way to eliminate bias in the calculation

earnest cradle
#

Yeah idk slagony

craggy talon
#

If it works it works I guess

balmy flame
#

So I could go back and compare to learn who actually did come in second, but
A. I’d have to go back into the data
And B. People might get salty so I’m not allowed to disclose any more slugpensive

earnest cradle
#

But you did befo- ah whatever hunterkek

balmy flame
queen bluff
balmy flame
#

I used to let everyone see the data, but we determined that was a bad idea

balmy flame
#

There was no drama dw

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Just the potential for feathers to get ruffled and such

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So now the information is hidden, even to me

craggy talon
#

Oh, good

#

I was expecting digital fist fights

balmy flame
#

Banan was wise enough to foresee it hunterknowing

craggy talon
#

Banan the wise

balmy flame
#

I was too blinded by my obsession with data

craggy talon
balmy flame
#

I am the resident spreadsheet enjoyer hunterglee

#

Anyone can vouch for me on that

#

Anyway, lemme check if the recording studio is open for this weekend monksilly

craggy talon
#

Also, I was reading though the earlier messagez

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Did you guys decide if recommending your own fic is allowed?

balmy flame
#

Yeah it is monksilly

craggy talon
#

Oh

#

Cool

#

How many times has anyone manage to work up the courage?

balmy flame
#

You can just drop it and the link into the pinned spreadsheet monksilly

craggy talon
#

Okay then

#

Might do that when I write something I don't cringe at

#

Also, are there any rules of the rating I should be aware of?

topaz perch
balmy flame
#

All of this server’s rules apply

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Cause we’re gonna read it in the vc slagony

slow lance
#

If unsure, send to staff lizblueblep

queen bluff
slow lance
#

You can do some fun rain world server challenges for role colours :p

craggy talon
#

I assume explicit is completely banned for obvious reasons?

queen bluff
craggy talon
#

Makes sense

slow lance
#

No rating heavily depends (Imo, never makes sense to put no rating on your stuff)

craggy talon
#

Agreed

balmy flame
#

Well I did check chat

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And the recording studio is completely unbooked all weekend slagony

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So I can get it quite easily I think

#

@worldly sentinel we’re gonna be reading your fic, so it’s up to you if you’d like to read

craggy talon
#

Wait you guys don't bring the author wen reading?

balmy flame
#

I’ve read the last two weekends so I think it would be fair if I gave someone else a turn

balmy flame
#

It’s just usually the author isn’t the one reading it to assuage the anxiety

craggy talon
#

Ah

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I misinterpreted, sorry

balmy flame
#

Sometimes we (will) read fics by people who aren’t in the server, so I guess in that case, but otherwise we do

earnest cradle
balmy flame
#

Cy does though

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He’s just built different slagony

craggy talon
#

Hero

balmy flame
#

It’s usually me or Beads doing the readings though

craggy talon
#

Beads?

#

Eight Beads?

balmy flame
#

Yeah monksilly

#

Eight Hundred Beads

#

Very talented reader

craggy talon
#

Do they write?

balmy flame
#

Yes they do monksilly monksilly

#

Very talented writer

craggy talon
#

Okay, thank you

craggy talon
balmy flame
#

The Engineer

#

Lemme pull it up

craggy talon
#

They're rote the engineer??

#

Will I ever escape meeting authors I recognize???

balmy flame
balmy flame
#

Simply develop amnesia and forget everything

craggy talon
balmy flame
#

Develop more severe amnesia monksilly

balmy flame
#

Anyway, TE is great hunterglee

#

I read it aloud

#

It was great fun

#

Second fic we read here

craggy talon
#

Really?

#

Interesting

balmy flame
#

Yeah

craggy talon
#

Do you guys keep a list to make sure there aren't any repeats?

balmy flame
#

We do

#

It’s in the spreadsheet monksilly

maiden tulip
#

We read engineer and sits first

craggy talon
earnest cradle
maiden tulip
#

Wait

#

I mixed it up

#

I mixed up te w tr

#

Mb

craggy talon
balmy flame
maiden tulip
balmy flame
#

I merely use it frequently

maiden tulip
#

Tabula rasa

balmy flame
#

Tabula Rasa hunterglee

maiden tulip
#

God i butchered that

craggy talon
#

Oh tabula rasa

balmy flame
#

Very good fic by Cy

craggy talon
#

I liked that one

craggy talon
balmy flame
#

Cy read that aloud himself because he is again, built differently monksilly

craggy talon
#

Quite the show of courage

#

I'm cringing at the mere thought of my fics being here, letting alone me reading them

balmy flame
#

For real

maiden tulip
balmy flame
#

The pacing while your fic is being read is a very common experience slagony

#

Piotr can attest

earnest cradle
#

I was gaming in the background the 1st time tho hunterkek

slow lance
#

I think I was playing ultrakill hunterkek
The other times I fully listened, though hunterglee

balmy flame
#

It’s nerve wracking but it’s fun hunterglee

earnest cradle
craggy talon
#

How do you guys manage that?

craggy talon
#

Playing while still listening

#

I've done that a few times but get fully engrossed in my game

slow lance
#

Ultrakill is a very chill and relaxing game + I had read tabula rasa before

earnest cradle
balmy flame
#

But I shortened most of those while I was reading them

earnest cradle
#

Not completely different but just read with a slightly different pace or way monksilly

earnest cradle
#

But yeah, you did a great job saintunyoy

balmy flame
craggy talon
#

You don't just read the words out loud?

slow lance
#

Gotta add some voice acting :3

maiden tulip
#

Gotta have emotion

#

zeal

earnest cradle
maiden tulip
#

passion

craggy talon
#

Ah

#

So you guys mean how a sentance or word is spoken

balmy flame
#

Exactly monksilly

#

Love adding some emotion in my readings

craggy talon
#

How dramatic does it get?

slow lance
#

Depends on the reader

maiden tulip
#

Shakespearean /j

craggy talon
balmy flame
#

Cy and Beads are far more neutral than me slagony

earnest cradle
#

Deadpan /j

earnest cradle
balmy flame
#

True hunterglee

earnest cradle
#

Though cy was more neutral, ye hunterglee

craggy talon
#

Honestly I might try to listen in this time around

#

If I can get the chance