first playthrough as saint! (with unmarked soilers!) (i gave up spearmaster)

[honest quail]

i beat monk yesterday, so far gourmand seems very fun! got to the first shelter so far, i will document things here and ask for help sometimes

what do i do? spawning on shaded citadel is a pretty late game area, as you can go to sky islands easily

first playthrough as gourmand! (with unmarked soilers!)

[weary moon]

Tip for MSC campaigns: when in doubt, go to already-known points of interest and see what happens

[honest quail]

hii 23848!!!

[honest quail]

wake up in the other shelter next to moon
try to go to shaded, while eating what i need for gourmand
die for a vulture or lizard because i get tired of throwing a single spear
cry because i have to do everything again

i love this fat slugcat i love him hes so round

hes like a seal

i killed my first lizard without a spear

only rolling and jumping

i love being fat

fat slugcat tries to eat fruit and kills plant

[honest quail]

are there no ?

[honest quail]

<@&1137895527271379055> im at memory crypts and having trouble with these miro birds as gourmand, what do you guys think about me playing as artificer and come back to gourm so i can beat both at the "same time"?

[orchid zealot]

it's your choice

[honest quail]

what do you think?

good or bad idea?

[orchid zealot]

I'm honestly unsure

(if I'm being honest I haven't played RW in a while)

[honest quail]

are there any gourm/story soilers?

[orchid zealot]

I suppose if you can't decide you should flip a coin

[honest quail]

i dont know..,.,.. what if i dont like the coin decision

what the fuck

[orchid zealot]

then choose the other one!

[honest quail]

how do i even play as arti

i go left there are 500 scavs, i go right there is a impossible parkour, oh and also scavs

[marble sail]

None

there are spoilers in the different campaigns for different slugcats but they're pretty vague

[marble sail]

Hint -> ||Pay attention to the intro. For the impossible parkour theres tutorial text going to the right. Id say restart and find it again (cuz idk how to describe it lol)||

[honest quail]

how do i even survive this

[honest quail]

after impossible parkour there are even more scavs

[marble sail]

Use all ur abilities

[honest quail]

i think ill disable karma requirements, im still stuck at the miro birds area as gourm and not worrying about dying is so good

also, there are 10 more regions with the dlc???? TEN? i want to explore them, 22 regions in the game+dlc now

[weary moon]

Be careful, they're there for a reason... even the game warns you of that.

Also "the miro birds area as gourm" doesn't have any karma requirements nearby

[weary moon]

Not all of them are accessible to everyone, though. It's complicated.

[honest quail]

oh yeah, after that there is the leg and the only gate is to 5p

[honest quail]

is there a way i should go? as monk, there is a overseer guiding me and when he doesnt appear, i should go right, where should i go as gourm? im just going through my normal route

[idle spire]

going through your normal route sounds like a good general mindset

[honest quail]

spawned on shaded, so i went to shoreline to say hi to moon, then i went to shaded again and now im on the leg

finally passed these horrible miro birds

the greatest nap i ever had in a shelter

[honest quail]

should i go to the precipice or 5p?

[idle spire]

you can do both

[honest quail]

<@&1137895527271379055> i woke up and saw some small centipedes going to my shelter, so i went there to kill one and some time after killing him the shelter CLOSED without me being full and without me forcing hibernation, what happened?

the game is forcing me to starve?

i could eat the one i killed before sleeping and i didnt starve gladly

[orchid zealot]

I think the game makes you hibernate if you aren't about to starve and are standing still in a shelter

[idle spire]

if you have enough food inside the shelter to have a normal hibernation the shelter closes (if you stand still for a second)

[orchid zealot]

so eating that centipede put you over the threshold, and therefore caused you to hivernate

[honest quail]

the shelter closed before i ate it

[idle spire]

then yea this happened

[honest quail]

wait for real? thats probably what happened

what if i didnt eat it though?

[orchid zealot]

then as Crystka said, the game saw food in the shelter being enough to not make you starve

[idle spire]

if you just bring inside something edible (or if it walked into the shelter with you) the game is like yes they will be fine so the shelter can close

[honest quail]

free karma i guess?

/silly

also, what are these gourmand cutscenes? every cutscene is him eating something, from slimes to vultures

just got a cutscene of him eating a whole vulture

thats so funny

[orchid zealot]

yummy!

[honest quail]

i thought this was a free fall like in subterranean

OH MY GOD THE ROOM BEFORE THAT IS A SHELTER

i thought it was the scav shop thing, i waited there thinking the scav would come and it closed???

[orchid crystal]

there's a remix you can enable to make death pits have better indicators

pretty useful 👍

[ancient pond]

Pretty useful, if the room has a death indicator (Im looking at you, first outside OE room)

[honest quail]

yayy i beat the game

i found the slugtree (i think?)

pretty short story

[ancient pond]

Yipee

[honest quail]

the ending is only 2 cutscenes

7 hours

[ancient pond]

Nice

[honest quail]

started rivulet now, the rain comes fast, im now at garbage wastes, do i say hi to lttm?

first playthrough with the dlc slugcats! (with unmarked soilers!)

how to remove the gourmand tag in my post?

[ancient pond]

Done

[honest quail]

thanks!

playing as riv is so fun

i love his movement

[honest quail]

this shelter failure thing is not cool

[honest quail]

why is this godlike creature begging for me to help him (5p)

[honest quail]

<@&1137895527271379055> how to get that cell thing? i cant even leave here

[brazen ravine]

youre able to go to the area in the top left

[honest quail]

I ALWAYS DIE BY THESE PROTO ROT

im so tire e

tired

30 minutes of 5p talking just for me to die

right after leaving

[frank jewel]

i died there seven times

[honest quail]

i died 4 times right after leaving 5p and im gonna die more

[honest quail]

yay i got the gravity cell

[honest quail]

he took the fucking pearl and fucking killed me

[honest quail]

<@&1137895527271379055> where should i go to put that energy cell? moon told me its near lttm but i cant find it

gravity cell*

[orchid crystal]

I'd recommend just checking any routes you haven't already been through near moon

[honest quail]

can you please just tell me where to go, if its near lttm, if its in shoreline

[orchid crystal]

very very close to lttm in shoreline

and you're trying to go down

[honest quail]

can you show me a map please

[orchid crystal]

I can if you really need it, but with the info I gave you it shouldn't be too bad and I do recommend lookin a bit

could you show me your map rq?

[honest quail]

okay just a sec

im on that top right shelter on the second screenshot

[orchid crystal]

ah, it's not directly connected to the main area

I'll let you know- you need to go down that access shaft on the left before heading back into the structure

if you can't find it from that I'll show you a pic

[honest quail]

that would help me a lot

[honest quail]

im going to try that

still cant find it, im at the big lake before getting into lttm

[ancient pond]

The shaft thats closest the the structure exterior

[honest quail]

i gave riv pearl to moon

and slept at the shelter thats closest to her

is there a pic of this shaft?

[honest quail]

oh, that? would never expect that, thank you very much

down here?

i hate water, this is going to be not very good

yayy i found it!!

the gate doesnt have a floor?

[honest quail]

<@&1137895527271379055> where do i go after putting the gravity cell in lttm?

in the submerged superstructure*

[orchid crystal]

have you done the cell yet?

[honest quail]

what do you mean by that?

i just slept after putting the cell

ITS SNOWING???

thats so cool

[marble sail]

There we go

[honest quail]

do my slugcat feel cold?

also, do i go back to moon?

what to do after that?

[marble sail]

worry about that later

Find your way out of this region for now

Explore it
it's a very pretty area

[honest quail]

i agree, its so beautiful! i love the snow

also, scavs hate me for some reason, i tried giving them a pearl and they killed me and took the pearl

i found a gate and slept near it

[orchid crystal]

some scavs are just jerks

[honest quail]

im on a gate

i wonder where that takes me

LTTM????

what are these drawings?!?!?!?!

do he think he is five pebbles???

even the gravity??

OH MY GOD

FINALLY MOON IS GETTING WHAT SHE DESERVES

she can freely move

oh my god that was one of the best endings

so far

(ive only beat monk, survivor, gourm and riv)

moon trying to talk to 5p

i thought his campaign was all about not wasting time so i didnt try to risk killing enemies

campaigns ive beat
monk
survivor
gourmand
rivulet
now going to spearmaster

[marble sail]

Gl spearmaster

[honest quail]

thanks for pinning them!

[honest quail]

finally left outskirts and this happens

i beat 4 campaigns but im not any better at the game

[orchid crystal]

knowledge is your best skill

also that was a smart pin, speedrun strat

[weary moon]

My advice: ||Play with your sound on. You would have heard that ||

[honest quail]

i did, its just that the nintendo switch audio is pretty bad and i was in the living room with the tv on

[honest quail]

his spears are very fun!!!

[weary moon]

Ah, switch audio bugs

[orchid crystal]

the visual threat indicator remix setting is helpful for bad audio

not quite as good, but it'll tell you when enemies are near

[weary moon]

They're already doing that.

[orchid crystal]

oh I see it now 👻

[honest quail]

i have it but it just shows the obvious enemies

[weary moon]

In this case the lizard's jumping noise would've been a giveaway

[orchid crystal]

Fun Fact: corpses slightly increase the threat indicator

[honest quail]

guys im gonna be honest....... i disabled the karma requirements.....its so fun playing without worrying about dying

[honest quail]

corpses?

[orchid crystal]

dead bodies of creatures

[honest quail]

silly me

[honest quail]

they do???

[orchid crystal]

yeah just a bit 🤏

[honest quail]

ooh

this game is so full of details

also, any tips for dealing with dropwigs?

[weary moon]

spot 'em

[honest quail]

im on the second shelter (the one close to industrial complex gate) and there are many dropwigs

[honest quail]

i can, but there are like 4

i try to kill one (its hard to hit them) and then theres another

oh and also stinky scavs can be pretty annoying if we dont gift them

[orchid crystal]

ah. that room

[honest quail]

yes, that room

[orchid crystal]

it's pretty eaaaaasssy once you know the trick

[honest quail]

i try one at a time and it works until theres a dropwig i didnt see before and he jumpscares me

i love them to be honest

they remind me of when i first played rain world and didnt know anything about the creatures

unpredictable creatures

[orchid crystal]

just wait until they come out with Dropwig 2

[honest quail]

trying to be friends with scavs

finally slept in industrial complex

should i go garbage wastes or chimney?

i want to visit moon

aw

i was killing a king vulture with a bunch of scavs and one of them jumped right at my spear the moment i threw it

[honest quail]

<@&1137895527271379055> any tips to be friends of these stinky scavs? cant even trade with a merchant

[ocean heart]

I would be afraid as well if a wild animal with sharp sticks would approach me

try to adjust your selling techniques

[honest quail]

i was dropping them he didnt even wait

the terrain is very bad he probably couldnt even see the spears for sale

[ocean heart]

this is you very close still holding the weapons

[honest quail]

but i didnt want to harm him

stinky dumb merchant

arent they supposed to be friendly

[ocean heart]

he didn't know

[honest quail]

i hope they never sell anything

time to play artificer out of anger

also, any tips for garbage wastes?

it is so dangerous

many lizards and stinky lizards

stinky scavs*

[honest quail]

that screenshot is so funny 😭 the way i just thought he would be okay with a wild creature with two spears

im sorry stinky scavs....

but why do they kill me so much?

i try giving them spears and they just murder me

i try to keep a distance but they are good snipers

is it okay to have 50 deaths while all i did do far is leave industrial complex

[marble sail]

Past garbage wastes my beloathed

[honest quail]

absolutely no reason to do this

i put my gun down and didnt do anything that scared them

[ocean heart]

I hate scavs lmao

[honest quail]

i loved them

loved

they were my best friend as a monk

god created artificer because of that

[honest quail]

new route:
industrial>shaded>lttm>precipice>5p

[honest quail]

I WAS FINALLY GETTING TO SHADED, HAD FOOD TO SHELTER AND THIS FUCKING SCAVENGER KILLS ME

oh my god

i hate this game

why are scavs in the game

i even tried to give him my spears

i hate this game

but i only play it because its awarding

i finally slept on this shelter

after at least 20 deaths

the relief

its so awarding

if i ever unlock scavenger and i can battle him in arena im going to execute every single scavenger i see

i even tried to be friends with him

and he kills me

i love this game

[ancient pond]

Spear doesnt have a very good rep with the scavs :p

[honest quail]

they should give me a chance

also, what can i do about the unending darkness in shaded citadel? i have no lantern and im not using these little goobers (lantern mices)

[honest quail]

what happens if instead of (SURVIVOR ENDING SPOILER) || ascending, i go to outer expanse and beat the game like gourmand||?

[ancient pond]

:p

[honest quail]

also #1294294850467795025 please recommend some challenges pleaseplease

[honest quail]

im playing artificer with a friend!!

we are on metropolis

best area so far

its so beautiful

the game is way better with coop

[idle spire]

the threat music is awesome too

[honest quail]

i beat artificer!!!!

going to show the ss later

[honest quail]

loved the boss battle, took us 5 hours to beat the game

[honest quail]

im stuck in shaded citadel as spearmaster, im in the shelter before that room and there is absolute no light, scavs hate me and i cant see anything and die without knowing

[honest quail]

<@&1137895527271379055> what should i do? sorry for the ping

[ocean heart]

find a light source

[honest quail]

how? i cant even leave my shelter

every place has either scav or spiders

[honest quail]

im in this shelter

[honest quail]

please i need help

i cant even get a light source

the lantern mices is not good

scavengers kill me, i cant even trade with them

and i dont want to kill them too

[royal aspen]

the room above you is less darker, try to get there

[honest quail]

i tried, after a while there are scavs

that kill me

i want to get to shoreline

[royal aspen]

well yeah

violence is always an option

[honest quail]

is it worth killing scavs?

[gilded aspen]

i would recommend for you to go up three rooms then to the right, you will skip most dangers then keep going right, and use map if you ever do need to see where to go, also if you climb on top of a pole, you can just make spears and drop them for scavs to very quickly build up rep with them

[honest quail]

thats actually smart

didnt thought of that

[gilded aspen]

sm has the easiest time making rep with scavs

[honest quail]

but when i try to climb a pole, most of the times the scav climbs too and kills me

[royal aspen]

have you killed scavs before in this playthrough?

[honest quail]

nope

never

i always tried to be their friends

[gilded aspen]

then try to stay out of theire reach and drop spears whenever they saw you, it can be hard, remember to not make sudden moves and no running at them, just drop spears from afar or from top

[honest quail]

but even the merchant kills me when i tried to sell spears

[honest quail]

but they kill me the moment they see me 😭

[gilded aspen]

thats weird, you could find a toll as they are always neutral

[honest quail]

and in shaded citadel its even harder

[royal aspen]

you have pretty low rep by default, I'd recommend to build it up in scav tolls

[honest quail]

i dont remember any tolls in shaded

[royal aspen]

there aren't iirc

[gilded aspen]

or find a pearl and chuck it at some scavs from afar, they shouldn t kill you after

[honest quail]

well

everytime i find a pearl i cant find a scav

im not very lucky

and just die

[royal aspen]

hmmm

well still your best option in this situation is taking the upper path i think. i don't think you can get a light source without killing scavs unless you give them a pearl

[orchid crystal]

remember that going back the way you came is always an option :^)

[honest quail]

im not coming back to industrial

even the name scares me

[orchid crystal]

such is spearmaster 😔

[honest quail]

yeah ill try to murder them then

i just want to play saint 😭

[royal aspen]

if you really want to increase your rep, going back and then going to a different region is probably the best option

[honest quail]

murder is the best optionthen

[royal aspen]

or that

[orchid crystal]

as long as you can handle the fire you're playing with

spearmaster is quite good at murder

[honest quail]

OH MY GOD

i finally gave scavs spears

they didnt kill me

i didnt make more spears so they dont think i am a threat

then a dropwig kills me

and i dont have any spears to defend myself

oh my god

is that a vulture with a miro bird head

i gave the scavs

like

20 spears

and they still killed me

i hate them

[honest quail]

first playthrough as spearmaster! (with unmarked soilers!) (saint next)

[orchid crystal]

@honest quail you can use this as a lil guide for how to help others if you'd like

(all of the spoilers there are stuff from the vanilla campaigns; nothing crazy)

[honest quail]

okay!!

i "told" him to go right because its basically what iggy tells you to go, but exploring is way better (even on a first playthrough)

[orchid crystal]

the most interesting runs come from those who break from the set path

[honest quail]

i agree

in my friend first playthrough, he got to 5p in less than two hours

he somehow ||climbed the wall, ignoring lttm and most of the regions, he has 100 hours in the game and told me he never went the "intended" route (well, where iggy points you to go)||

he thought ||climbing the wall|| was the only way to get to 5p

[honest quail]

just wanted to say that i love artificer story

[honest quail]

i hate playing as spearmaster

and scavengers

i try to trade with them, give pearls and they kill me

see a scavenger without rock or spear and try to give him my spear, he pick it up and kill me

im just going to turn on that one msc option and not play spearmaster, just play saint

[ancient pond]

Saint's locked behind Spear and Riv for a reason

[honest quail]

my friends told me saint doesnt have much combat so they think i will like it

no combat means the campaign is easy so i love that

[ancient pond]

lol
lmao

[frank jewel]

famous last words

[ancient pond]

lol, said the scorpion
lmao

I should make that an emote hold on

[honest quail]

well, the only thing i hate is having to kill things

[weary moon]

. . . very false

The Saint's campaign is quite difficult.

[ancient pond]

Youre first mistake was thinking combat ability dictated difficulty

Everyones first playthrough:

[honest quail]

i need you people to agree with me not say that

/silly

so should i beat the sm campaign or turn on that option?

[frank jewel]

i don't think i'm allowed to say this actually

it's up to you

[weary moon]

Definitely beat the campaign.

[frank jewel]

okay i guess i was allowed to say that then

[honest quail]

i shall allow you

[honest quail]

no

i unallow you

[ancient pond]

[honest quail]

but what do i do? do i kill every scav?

[frank jewel]

it was literally just what 23848 said

[weary moon]

Try to befriend them

[frank jewel]

2 3 8 4 8 pretend the spaces are consistent

[weary moon]

just be careful about it.

[honest quail]

seeing as my attempts at becoming friend wasnt very succesful

[weary moon]

Keep trying

it is possible.

Or just run for it, whatever works for you I suppose.

[honest quail]

what about elite scavs?

they dont care about reputation, can i kill them if i become friends with scavs?

[weary moon]

More reason to be nice to them

[weary moon]

The elites can in fact become allies.

[honest quail]

i need tips for becoming friends with them though, trying to drop the spears result in them killing me or not picking up the spears

[ancient pond]

Do it out of reach :3

[honest quail]

shaded citadels terrain dont allow that

specially because of where they spawn

[weary moon]

Find another area with more favorable terrain

[honest quail]

how though? every other area is dark and i need a lantern

[ancient pond]

Shaded is one region of many

If you cant do it there,

Well

[honest quail]

do not even dare to say that name

even hearing that name scares me

garbage......wastes.......

[ancient pond]

Implying scavengers only in SC and GW

[weary moon]

And if an area isn't being patrolled by the scavengers, you don't need to worry about it anyways until they show up again

[honest quail]

this is my route to try to get to another shelter, however, scavengers appear in SH_B08 and always kill me and when i can get to the shelter i dont have food

scavengers near the shelter while i dont have food only mean one thing.....

[weary moon]

I can see several places here you could potentially hide in. Otherwise, you're also close to the Industrial Complex

And if you can get one of them to give you a lantern, you can find a better spot further in.

[honest quail]

my route is outskirts>industrial>shaded>shoreline>lttm>the precipice (i only hear rumours about this precipice but it looks like it connects lttm and 5p)>5p>where 5p tell me to go

im trying to go to shoreline from this shelter

[weary moon]

(or mug one for a lantern and try to pay them back later, I suppose, but they won't like that)

[honest quail]

i know i need a lantern if i sleep in SH_S04

[honest quail]

..,.,.,..killing scaengers...mm.,.,,.

[weary moon]

You can also navigate the Citadel in the dark! If you're smart about it.

[honest quail]

and be killed with a attack from a spider i never seen

[weary moon]

A light source isn't necessary, especially if you already know what you're doing.

[weary moon]

That can be avoided

A lantern is the best solution (that you can access now at least), but not the only one.

[honest quail]

spears arent very useful, i tend to panic in that situation

[weary moon]

mhm

What else?

[honest quail]

i shall use the lantern mice

well, spearmaster is pretty light so with a lantern mice i will be the normal weight?

I HAVE GOOD NEWS

i saw a group of scavs, traded with one, then a scav with 3 spears looked at me in the eyes and i tried to give him my spears and HE DIDNT KILL ME and got the spears

i slept as fast as i could

i hope i got some reputation

[honest quail]

aah is there a cheat that i can just go to shoreline

[honest quail]

im tired of the suffering

i will never get to shoreline

[trim vale]

the lower route is pretty safe for spearmaster, even if you have no light you can blindly throw spears down the hallways and kill any spiders in the way

[honest quail]

most of the times the spiders find me before i find them

and they are strong

two spears to kill a single one

[trim vale]

then stab them before you know they are there

I think all spider enemies are 1 shot to kill for spearmaster

[honest quail]

by lower path you mean SH_KELP?

theres a shelter there

[trim vale]

SH_B17 leading towards SH_KELP

[honest quail]

do i just throw the spears?

[trim vale]

yes, just toss a spear down each hallway

[honest quail]

i see

[trim vale]

should clear out any coalescapedes or large spiders

[honest quail]

but how do i know theres a hallway?

in the dark

[trim vale]

the in game map

[honest quail]

ture

from SH_KELP where should i go?

if i just go right from sh_kelp i will get to the exterior and i dont want that

[trim vale]

from SH_KELP, go towards B10 and follow it up from there

[honest quail]

i think thats what i will do then

any more tips to kill spiders?

[trim vale]

if you see multiple large spiders together either move quickly past them or lead them away, they can very easily cause a lot of problems if you underestimate them

[honest quail]

should i try killing a scav to get his lantern?

just one

or that will be bad for my reputation (that is already bad)

[trim vale]

don't worry too much about rep

as long as you don't kill them infront of a large crowd you won't lose too much

[honest quail]

if i kill only one will i lose rep

only one like

without any scav in the same room

[trim vale]

yes, but killing a scav with no witnesses is only around a pearl and a spear of rep (don't know the exact amount)

[honest quail]

14 iirc

is that why they created artificer

[honest quail]

oh my god i hate scavengers

THEY ARE KILLING ME ON SIGHT FOR NO REASON

this is not fun

theres not even a reason to kill me, im not close to them, im crouching and giving them spears

ill never leave shaded

[honest quail]

also i finally slept in sh_s02 so im close to SHORELINE!!1!1!2!1!1!1!1

its like that one persona song "you will never see it coming"

that was the scariest jumpscare i had for many months

[honest quail]

I FINALLY GOT TO SHORELINE IM SO HAPPY

and its called waterfront facility?

[frank jewel]

[honest quail]

why are there so many stinky scavs

in my artificer run there were way less scavs

[honest quail]

lttm is now a big computer like 5p?!?!?!?!

she deserves it i love lttm

she thinks she is 5p though

[honest quail]

ive seen in many places that spearmaster has a key item that is a pearl and its easy to not find the pearl, where is it? im okay with spoilers, im in the shelter before the vents

i mean like, is it on the way to lttm?

nevermind i dont want soilers

but im stuck in the shelter before the vents

i always die by either spiders, miro vultures, lizards or the pit

[echo sundial]

THE PIT

Although not THE pit

[honest quail]

the pit two

seriously though, i need help

i always hated iterators structure

is there a the wall of lttm?

though its not worth coming back

[echo sundial]

They are both iterators

[echo sundial]

Elaborate

[honest quail]

coming all the way back to waterfront facility just to climb the lttm wall, assuming there is one

[ancient pond]

Moon's an iterator

If there was no wall she'd just be Flat Square With Legs

[honest quail]

what if she is a flat square with legs

[echo sundial]

Then the people were really stupid

F in architecture

[honest quail]

im in the shelter before entering the vents in lttm, whats the best route for the next shelter? im okay with soilers

[ancient pond]

Up when possible

[honest quail]

i need a good route that is easy

theres always a lizard, vulture, pit or these things that electrocute me

[ancient pond]

You either go all the way to the right or up when possible

[honest quail]

i think ill climb the wall, how hard is it compared to 5p the wall?

[ancient pond]

To reach?
:3

[honest quail]

to climb

oh yeah, and to reach too

[ancient pond]

If you can figure out a way to reach it, uhhhh
Its okay to climb I guess

[honest quail]

how to get to this pole?

[ancient pond]

Its possible
Good luck making the jumps past it though

[honest quail]

is it possible without squidcada

[ancient pond]

[honest quail]

can i passage with a squidcada on my hand

[ancient pond]

Idk
As far as I know only key items work on passage if its turned on, and friends

[orchid crystal]

barely; a bit too precise for casual play tho

Advanced Movement™️

[honest quail]

whats the name of this advanced movement?

i put a spear upside down to make a pole but wasnt enough

and its the only way to the wall

[craggy galleon]

a downspear?

[royal aspen]

You either need a squidcada or some movement tech

[craggy galleon]

I think he doesn't yet know about this / Spoiler.

[royal aspen]

i thought it was #downpour-spoilers

[honest quail]

i did a backflip and threw it upside down

[honest quail]

i can try some movement techs

what is a good one?

[honest quail]

as long as its not a spearmaster or saint soiler im good

[craggy galleon]

apparently a 6JSTBPBILWP could work.

[honest quail]

what tf is a 6jstbpbilwp 😭

[craggy galleon]

6 jump store throw boosted pause buffered instant ledge wall pounce (can't really tell you how to perform it, but apparently it isn't too hard.)

[honest quail]

[craggy galleon]

Not sure if a normall CTV gains enough height, probably no.

[honest quail]

tried searching and nothing comes up

[craggy galleon]

its a combination of 3 techs.

1. 6 Jump storage.

2. Pause buffering

3. Ledge wall pounce - "A variant of Instant Wallpounce done on a ledge of a block you were crawling on a few moments ago, with the head pointing downwards. Causes a much bigger jump that is comparable to Vaults. "

[honest quail]

thats impossible

[craggy galleon]

which part?

[honest quail]

im back, the impossible part is combining the 3 movements

[craggy galleon]

Not really.

Pause buffering makes the Instant Ledge Wall Poince even easier than it already is.

Instant wallpounce for reference - "Pressing jump and throw on the same frame, while next to a wall and not in a standing position will result in a wallpounce."

"It is possible to gain 6 jump-boost when grounded by inputting down to crouch, and pressing and releasing jump before slugcat fully enters the crouch state."

"While unpausing, there are a few ticks during which it's possible to press buttons without any effect. The buttons will be executed on the first tick immediately after unpausing. This makes the timing more lenient for techs that require pressing several buttons at the same time, such as Crawl Turn Vaults or Instant Ledge Wall Pounce."

[honest quail]

is that possible on a switch though?

it seems pretty hard

specially in this small platform

[craggy galleon]

Yes.

[honest quail]

but its still hard

[craggy galleon]

There isn't anything that requires much space.

[honest quail]

needs a lot of knowledge

i will try training, its better than getting a squidcada

[craggy galleon]

The jump store, maybe, but for the LWP the pause buffer should make it easy.

[honest quail]

also im 7 hours in my spearmaster save and i havent even got to lttm

[craggy galleon]

Unless it's your goal to go fast, enjoy goind slow.

[honest quail]

hmmm

[honest quail]

so what should i do? just what you said in that order?

[honest quail]

i beat rivulet campaign in 3 hours and i hated that because i like going slow

[craggy galleon]

1. Jump storage: "It is possible to gain 6 jump-boost when grounded by inputting down to crouch, and pressing and releasing jump before slugcat fully enters the crouch state."
2. Just barely walk of the platform and pause for pause buffer. "While unpausing, there are a few ticks during which it's possible to press buttons without any effect. The buttons will be executed on the first tick immediately after unpausing. This makes the timing more lenient for techs that require pressing several buttons at the same time, such as Crawl Turn Vaults or Instant Ledge Wall Pounce."
3. Buffer the Ledge Wall Pounce: "A variant of Instant Wallpounce done on a ledge of a block you were crawling on a few moments ago, with the head pointing downwards. Causes a much bigger jump that is comparable to Vaults. "

Instant Wall Pounce for reference: "Pressing jump and throw on the same frame, while next to a wall and not in a standing position will result in a wallpounce."

Image is jump storage.

[honest quail]

what is a 6 jump boost?

sorry for so many questions

is there a video or gif of someone doing this "combo"? i think it would help a lot

[craggy galleon]

I can make one if you wait long enough, but I am not sure when I get to my computer.

[honest quail]

that would help me so much! i can wait

[craggy galleon]

You can 'store' a jump boost, to use when jumping later to get extra height.

[honest quail]

ooh that makes sense

thats cool

thank you for the help!

[craggy galleon]

please find a different way...

[honest quail]

why?,

[craggy galleon]

next you need to clear this gap (from the right platform to the left.)

not sure if that even is possible.

just get a sqidcada at this point.

[honest quail]

aw

thats sad

im trying to get one but i always die by scavs

wish i could just fly

[craggy galleon]

if you don't care how hard the tech is, you can learn CTF, it's only frame perfect, and would allow you to ⭐ fly ⭐

[honest quail]

ctf?

is it possible without squidcada?

is that a mod or

[craggy galleon]

crawl turn fly. The people that can consistently do it are in the single digits. Not sure if it is possible with spearmaster even.

[honest quail]

i think i can do it easily/j

is there a gif just so i can see?

[craggy galleon]

using a macro for showcase.

[honest quail]

yeah thats pretty easy to do

specially on the switch

[craggy galleon]

d-pad.. (I recomend for 99% of all tech)

[honest quail]

wait i think i can do that with the turbo mode in those fake controllers

why is it not possible as spearmaster?

[craggy galleon]

it is, I just am bad at tasing.

[honest quail]

how many clicks per second so i can do that?

[craggy galleon]

    R~7
    L~4
    R~4
    {
        L~3
        R~3
    }

here are the inputs, assuming you start crawling facing left. (simpler version that works for Spearmaster) R - right, L - left, the number behind ~ states how long the input is pressed (in ticks), repeat the part in {} for how long you need.

the ticks per second is 40.

[honest quail]

[orchid crystal]

advanced movement jumpscare 😨

[honest quail]

if i even try to do that my switch will get joystick drift instantly

[orchid crystal]

just get a Switch 2™️ early

[craggy galleon]

use d-pad....

[honest quail]

it was a joke and its still almost impossible you need like light speed fingers

i can try the turbo mode in my fake controller which is basically a "auto clicker"

but it only works with one button at a time

[honest quail]

okay i will restart my gourmand save and get a slugpup, any recommended route based on his food quest?

[honest quail]

shaded>shoreline>shaded>exterior>the wall>pebbles>chimney>sky islands>farm arrays> subterranean>outer expanse

this will be my route

[honest quail]

just saving this

[honest quail]

are there any way to get to lttm without going into the region?

[honest quail]

its literally impossible to get here

to get there, i need to get to a tunnel under water

[ancient pond]

No, LTTM is in LTTM :p

[honest quail]

but i can't with a squidcada

[ancient pond]

Just like how she is as every other cat except this time it isnt a subregion

[honest quail]

i want to climb the wall

[ancient pond]

I know

To get there you need to be in LTTM

[honest quail]

yeah but how do i make this jump

[honest quail]

i can't with a squidcada

[ancient pond]

I have no idea :p

Ive never done it, Ive never seen anyone else do it

[honest quail]

should i ping first playthrough helpers.......m

I'm going to try a bit more

[ancient pond]

I dont know if its even possible to go from down to up here

[honest quail]

squidcada, no?

[ancient pond]

If you can get one there, you can sure try

[honest quail]

its impossible to get to lttm

in the region there are FOUR miro vultures in the same room

[ancient pond]

Yeah

Its not impossible to skip past them or wait for them to leave then keep moving

[honest quail]

how can i make a squidcada not fly when i drop him?

[craggy galleon]

stone?

[honest quail]

its hard to find one.....

[craggy galleon]

just be careful as you can stone a creature to death.

[orchid crystal]

(it'd take like 100 rocks, not a huge concern)

[craggy galleon]

*80

[orchid crystal]

(like)

[honest quail]

please whats the best way to get to lttm?

[craggy galleon]

Precipice is hell. Imagine Sky islands.

[orchid crystal]

honestly, the way you've already tried is your best bet, although it can be discouraging to get through

the squidcada idea has merit, though.

[honest quail]

i think precipice is better

[orchid crystal]

if you'd like a hint on how to get to precipice, I can provide one

[honest quail]

i cant get underwater with them

[honest quail]

please

[orchid crystal]

there is a path that doesn't require it although it's a bit hard to follow

[royal aspen]

But Sky Islands isn't hell

[honest quail]

i know its purpose, sadly someone spoiled me that

[craggy galleon]

Unless you know what you are doing.

[orchid crystal]

@craggy galleon please don't put unspoiled spoilers in chat

if they hadn't already been told what it was then that'd be a bummer

[craggy galleon]

I thought Pebbles mentioned it somewhere. MB

[limpid field]

[royal aspen]

Hi foggy

[limpid field]

hi

hows s🍐master

[honest quail]

so, how do i get to precipice?

[honest quail]

hell

i hate combat

[limpid field]

[orchid crystal]

||there is another entrance, but think about the elevation you're trying to gain to get there 🤔
have you seen any place that could be that high up?)||

[limpid field]

i dont like combat either but hes not too bad ngl

[royal aspen]

There is a long way

[honest quail]

ermmm

[limpid field]

where are you on the map currently?

[royal aspen]

Waterfront facility

[limpid field]

hm alright

[honest quail]

i will try to get back there without a squidcada so i can see

[orchid crystal]

right below the bottom precipice entrance

they've tried the normal route to LTTM but didn't like it, I was told

[honest quail]

is precipice really that hard?

[royal aspen]

No

[limpid field]

no

[echo sundial]

There are a few bad jumps

[orchid crystal]

it is quite tough but it is also something different

[honest quail]

i can try

[orchid crystal]

can be a change of pace

[honest quail]

also, do i kill scavs?

[royal aspen]

Yeah, it really is

[limpid field]

thats up to you

[royal aspen]

Making friends with them is often better, but it's up to you

Less thìngs to worry about

Especially if you don't want to constantly fight them

[orchid crystal]

personal preference ¯_(ツ)_/¯

remember not to get tooo opiniony here, all

it is someone else's playthrough here, after all

[honest quail]

its okay though, i like to know what people think about what i ask

[craggy galleon]

I'd say if you have the time and resources it's worth it, as you don't need to worry about one stabbing you when you are running away from something.

[honest quail]

okay im almost at that jump

slept at the shelter before it

without a squidcada

[craggy galleon]

GL

[honest quail]

kalum i dont really mind if you tell me where i should go....

i just want to get to lttm sob

[orchid crystal]

for the other precipice entrance?

[honest quail]

im at the jump

any entrance

[orchid crystal]

that jump is only intended to be done downwards, so it isn't really a viable way to get up (advanced movement and/or minor exploits are required)

as for the other entrance that I was mentioning...

[honest quail]

[orchid crystal]

Major Hint 1: ||You've seen the other entrance before, although at that time it wasnt fully accessible.|| @honest quail

[honest quail]

i have a theory and i hope im wrong

as the precipice connects lttm and 5p

then that means the other entrance is 5p or near that

am i right....

i think the best way is through lttm region

[orchid crystal]

yep 🙂

[limpid field]

you got this

[honest quail]

i will go through the lttm region again then

wish me luck

[limpid field]

[royal aspen]

Good luck

[honest quail]

NO

I HEAR SCISSORS

yayy

i finally slept

i am traumatized

im at the shelter before struts

finally got to struts

slept at the first shelter

also can someone draw a route of where i should go that would be awesome.....

or at least room names

[craggy galleon]

up and right. Nothing more you need.

[honest quail]

should i eat and sleep to get survivor passage?

[honest quail]

i have great news

after only going up i passed the room with 4 miro vultures and slept in a shelter after the first shelter

im only going up

i think im near lttm as the gravity makes me fly a lot

[limpid field]

[honest quail]

can i safely eat neurons as spearmaster even with a inspector looking?

im in luna and skipped two shelters

because no food

:(

and wow

luna is BEAUTIFUL

NOOO I DIED IN LUNA

my last shelter was before that lttm can

which i cant enter

that sucks

[honest quail]

<@&1137895527271379055> sorry for the ping but i really need food

[idle spire]

You can try

especially since you really need food

[honest quail]

i dont want to try, i want SPOILERS because i dont want to lose my karma (one cycle left to get survivor passage )

im okay with a direct answer

i dont want to try and lose my passage progress

[idle spire]

||they will get aggressive but tbh I never died to one, you can avoid them pretty easily||

[honest quail]

they can steal spears from your hands, no?

i think the only way they kill is with spears

[idle spire]

you can try to stay as far away as you can

[honest quail]

also i really like the inspectors they saved me once

theres no reputation with them, right?

they are good friends soo

[idle spire]

they're cool guys

[honest quail]

I GOT SURVIVOR PASSAGE

YAYY

also im recognizing this area

and how it is in other campaigns like as monk

its so cool

[honest quail]

he was screaming

[honest quail]

I FINALLY SLEPT IN DM_STOP

YAYAYAY

these beautiful wall paintings

after 9 hours i finally got to lttm

FINALLY

I GOT TO LTTM CAN

i wont understand anything she says

stop making me fly

SHE GAVE ME A MARK OF COMMUNICATION

??????

THATS SO COOL

SHE CAN DO THAT

THERES A PEARL IN MY BODY?

[minor kraken]

Right...

[honest quail]

NO

what happened to her

5p is hurting her????

oh my god

my poor lttm

[minor kraken]

She's had a tough life.

[honest quail]

it was worth the 9 hours to get here

AAH I HATE ORANGE LIZARDS

[honest quail]

i was in LM_BRIDGE03 and died, my last shelter was DM_S06

i hate this game

DM_S03 actually

[bleak wraith]

damn my first playthrough wasn't nearly this rage inducing

except for ||moons underhang ig||

[honest quail]

can i get food from DM_06 to the lttm wall?

the only food i know is after the wall, theres a popcorn food

but the closest shelter is either returning to the karma gate or after 2 cyan lizards

how can i even know

[honest quail]

oh my god i hate this game

what do i even do

i will try to get food before going to the precipice

which is pretty impossible as theres no neuron flies nearby

[honest quail]

YAYY

I FINALLY SLEPT IN THE PRECIPICE

the shelter right after the karma gate

i found a room next to my old shelter

that had 5 mices

exactly enough for me to sleep

im so happy

this game dont want to see me happy

the precipice has infinite vultures every room

wild spears scare slugcat

[honest quail]

i need help with cyan lizards

how do i kill them

they just jump so fast

[craggy galleon]

spear before they jump?

[royal aspen]

remember to use rocks even if you're spearmaster

[limpid field]

some stun always helps

[honest quail]

i have no aim

they react faster

i cant carry a rock too

vultures....

[orchid crystal]

😔

[ocean heart]

why can't you carry a rock?

[limpid field]

one general tip, use anything at your disposal to your advantage

🥹

[honest quail]

vultures

there are 2 cyan lizards

and multiple vultures

[ocean heart]

you could try to hide under some cover while dealing with the lizards and to hide from vultures

and if they follow you into a narrow tunnel they become an easier target

[honest quail]

i need to use the "covers" to pounce though

[limpid field]

you can get rid of the evidence afterwards

[ocean heart]

hop from cover to cover

also mind the food chain you are not the only prey here

use that to your advantage

[limpid field]

oh true

you may be low but that doesnt mean only you exist on the foodchain

[honest quail]

stop lying

vultures will always choose me over lizards

because at least they can eat my head

[orchid crystal]

why is this btw

[limpid field]

you got this! every death gets you closer to getting past an obstable

you are going to learn from every mistake you make

[honest quail]

vultures.....

[limpid field]

switch it out for a spear or hide

[honest quail]

YEAH

TAKE THAT

i threw a spear right into that lizards uhh

what is it called

mouth

the thing after his mouth

[limpid field]

throat?

neck?

[honest quail]

throat

yeah

[limpid field]

good job

[honest quail]

hes still alive???

died now

hit him in the gas thing

he flew

he suffered

woah

first in the throat then in his gas thing that makes him fly

[limpid field]

[honest quail]

so just to make sure

i only use rocks for lizard?

can i use them to unmask vultures?

his friend is here

now theres a cyan lizard (the fake one) and the real lizard

[limpid field]

i dont understand what you mean by this

[honest quail]

VULTURE

yeah vulture eat him

thanks vulture

[limpid field]

yay

[honest quail]

two free foods

[honest quail]

vulture have mask

spear in vulture mask

vulture no have mask

[limpid field]

yeah but can you use what for unmasking

[honest quail]

rocks

NOOOO

[limpid field]

as far as i know, no

but ill ask

[honest quail]

i jumped to throw spears at vulture and forgot about the void

i died :(

but that was cool

killing three lizards

and almost killing a vulture

[limpid field]

you cant demask with a rock

[honest quail]

aw

that doesnt make sense

rocks are heavier than spears

i just left my shelter why is there a vulture

king vulture

[orchid crystal]

spearmaster 🙂

[gritty crypt]

spearmaster 🙂

[honest quail]

should i keep this mask i found?

vulture mask

normal vulture

i will lose one hand but is it worth

nvm i need two spears for a jump

bye vulture mask

NOOO

WHY ARE THERE SCAVS

if vultures and lizards wasnt enough

i see two scavs in my map

oh my god

why

is there a way to cheat

just fly or something

[stoic folio]

[honest quail]

i just get sniped

[gritty crypt]

i mean you could use debug mode

[honest quail]

they are on the other side of the screen

[gritty crypt]

probably not a good idea

[honest quail]

debug mode isnt in console though

[gritty crypt]

ah

try to find a way around or get a vulture grub maybe

[stoic folio]

If a room's dangerous, you can just go a different direction and come back later

[honest quail]

i dont need a vulture grub, they appear every room

[honest quail]

im not going through waterfront facility again

[stoic folio]

With 10 creatures in a room, there's a lot of space for fights to break out
You just have to not be part of the fight

[honest quail]

they always kill me first

its like im the main character in the fight

[gritty crypt]

are you staying right where the pipe is or are you actually going down into the fight

[honest quail]

hiding in the pipe

i thought it was clear then i get sniped by scavs

[gritty crypt]

and they're STILL killing you?

[honest quail]

i cant hide forever

[gritty crypt]

true...

i dont know what the default scav rep for spearmaster is

but you could try rep farming with some guys on the outskirts of the area

[honest quail]

-45

iirc

[gritty crypt]

pearls arent that uncommon and your back spears do have some good value

[honest quail]

they kill me on sight

half of the messages here is just me complaining about scavs

its not worth getting rep

[gritty crypt]

oh speaking of

what region are you even in?

[honest quail]

precipice

and my controller decides to die

[gritty crypt]

im guessing the scavs are in the way of underhang right

[honest quail]

yeah

[gritty crypt]

well i know you dont wanna go back through waterfront but considering how you've explained the situation

that might be the best option

[honest quail]

i have a passage but i dont want to waste it

[gritty crypt]

you're going to fp right

[honest quail]

yeah

[gritty crypt]

if you do end up going back through waterfront you can cut through garbage wastes, then industrial, then sky islands and go to fp from there

but thats a really long path

[honest quail]

garbage wastes???

[gritty crypt]

yeah garbage wastes has a connection to waterfront

[honest quail]

never

[gritty crypt]

hm

[honest quail]

id rather die 99999 times to scavs then even enter there again

[gritty crypt]

i mean another common route is to go through shaded

[stoic folio]

Hey @gritty crypt don't give that much information unprompted

[gritty crypt]

oh yea

sorry

[honest quail]

its okay though

hes helping me

i like to know where im going

[gritty crypt]

in that case

[honest quail]

i already knew gw have a connection to waterfront too

[ancient pond]

We give hints and tips to players, then give a bit more direct info the more they struggle
We usually dont outright say an entire pathway or certain connections so players can find them themselves

[honest quail]

at this point i prefer direct answers

im struggling a lot

[gritty crypt]

well

[honest quail]

i just want to play as saint

OH MY GOD

[gritty crypt]

as i was saying before a common way out of shoreline and over into the wall is through shaded citadel and memory crypts

[honest quail]

I HATE THESE SCAVS

[gritty crypt]

but both of those places SUCK

[honest quail]

at this point memory crypts may even be better

[gritty crypt]

yeah but miros birds are annoying

plus im pretty sure memory crypts might even be worse as spearmaster

not sure

[honest quail]

i think i will just activate that cheat where i can play without beating spearmaster campaign

what are scavengers doing in 5p????

this game hates me

[stoic folio]

I feel like this mindset may be why the scavs hate you so much

[gritty crypt]

sometimes scavs can get to 5p in some campaigns

idk why they'd be there in spearmaster's

[honest quail]

search for scavs and shaded citadel in this chat

i tried trading with them so much

i tried to trade with a merchant scav and he KILLED me

even though i didnt kill any scav before

[gritty crypt]

you could try passage farming if all else fails

monk and saint aren't easy as spearmaster but they're possible

[honest quail]

any passage ideas?

[gritty crypt]

well

the friend is the first one that comes to mind

lizards are pretty common and seeing as how scavs already hate you

you can just feed scavs to lizards and tame them