First playthrough shenanigans #2 (Inv completed..)

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Farm Arrays has really nice music that fits perfectly when the deer are behaving and is just cruel when they aren't

[leaden steeple]

Huh

oh i rewatched the clip

I WAS RIGHT NEXT TO IT

LMAO

THAT IS BRUTAL

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please don't tell me you've sheltered since

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nah i didnt

i watched the clip again just in case

safety first

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That's definitely the most well-hidden one. Good job!

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Also I see you've started using DMS

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yes

it looks nice

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I should try it sometime.

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now al i have left to do is to get this to SL and some carrying

scav jump scare

died to a centipede

almost at SL

now its time to carry the pearls

[uncut flame]

:O

[leaden steeple]

ill just screensahre

[uncut flame]

Hell yeah nice

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should i risk going to the real pearl shelter?

its the one near CC

eh

actually

should i just carry all of them atonce

scavs are the worst with no hands

why did that scav not kill me

dangit

[low berry]

how goes the pearl transport

[leaden steeple]

got 3 of them back to the shelter

theres only 3 left in there now

• the lttm one

[low berry]

niceee

almost done

[leaden steeple]

yep

[uncut flame]

Epi

c

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oh i actually have 1 free hand this time

1 pearl left

oh oops wrong channel

[low berry]

so close!

[dark coyote]

how long did it take to find the sub pearl?

[leaden steeple]

not long

i was onto the games shenanigans

[low berry]

true by the time you got to sub you had a very good idea where the porls would be XD

[leaden steeple]

i explored a lot of sub besides FS

and i doubted a 2nd one would be in FS

[smoky rose]

real smort

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@dark coyote am i good to just use the transport remix now that i did scholar?

the one that teleports everything in a shelter to another one on passage

[dark coyote]

if you did then yeah

[leaden steeple]

i think i did?

there are 18 pearls in the shelter

[dark coyote]

just checked. Well done

[leaden steeple]

thank you!

turns out

key items on passage does NOT work with pearls

[dark coyote]

it does

always did

[uncut flame]

[dark coyote]

check your remix settings again

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[dark coyote]

ummmmm

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i even recorded passaging but its too large

[dark coyote]

every copy of rain world is personalized

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1 sec

[uncut flame]

Try it again?
If not, sleep in the shelter cuz they probably all went out of bounds, idk xd

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i have no more passages

i could get one but its better to just bring them

[leaden steeple]

ill look at the map and look for that area rq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aOBp1--r98

they are all there

[uncut flame]

Huh..

[leaden steeple]

i have to make 6 trips just to get them all across

:(

[dark coyote]

evil game...

[leaden steeple]

ILL TRY TO GET SAINT RQ

woops caps

i might as well check the echo in SC

alright i think i should have saint now

but do yall have any guesses on why it didnt work the 1st time?

(the passage)

should i try to passage with the saint

[dark coyote]

I have no idea you could try passaging again if you like gambling 🎰

[leaden steeple]

sure...

[vital sierra]

you can make a backup first

[leaden steeple]

too late

anyways the gamble failed

i really dont feel like going back there 6 times

[leaden steeple]

does anyone wanna watch me suffer while carrying 18 pearls to LTTM shelter

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12/18

pain and suffering

[dense cliff]

bet

i dont have monk channels yet tho

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alr

stoneheads again

[dense cliff]

ok

[leaden steeple]

2 more trips

nvm its 3 for some reason????

um

wtf wait

why are there 19 pearls now

were there always 19?

@dark coyote ?????

[dark coyote]

waaaaa... what's up?

[leaden steeple]

for some reason i have 19 pearls???

[dark coyote]

some of the pearls might dupe

just make sure you don't lose any

[leaden steeple]

did i lose any?

oh i see which one duped now

yeah i didnt lose any

i mean even if i lose one i can just die or do a cycle

they should respawn right?

those 2 red-pink ones should be the same right?

15/19

wait what

why are there only 14 pearls here????

oh lmao the duped pearl dissapeared and went back

Every copy of rain world is personalized....

the pearls are messing with me

[dark coyote]

I wouldn't trust any pearls to stay with you

[leaden steeple]

why?

[dark coyote]

the game looks unstable

[leaden steeple]

it looks stable now

17/18

18/18

how many do you recommend me giving to lttm at once?

[smoky rose]

18

[leaden steeple]

18 at once???

[smoky rose]

yeah

[leaden steeple]

rain timer???

ill just try 1 for now to see what happens

oh yeah the time stopped

THIS IS SO MUCH INFORMATION

WHO THE HELL IS SEVEN RED SUNS

IM NOT EVEN AT HALF OF THEM

[dark coyote]

✨ ✨

[leaden steeple]

WHO IS EP

WHO IS UU

WHO ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE

THE ECHOES ARE MONKS

[dark coyote]

[leaden steeple]

i didnt get the most time sadly

i accidentally grabbed both FP ones

they are different

oh 3 left

so much information wtf

i read them all btw

[mystic seal]

Congratulations! You have mastered the lore

OK, what have you learned

[mystic seal]

-# (it's supposed to only work on colored pearls... it would leave white pearls and Five Pebbles' pearls behind, though)

[leaden steeple]

it didnt passage any of them

i had to carry all of them there myself :(

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Yeah that's a bug

[leaden steeple]

theres... a lot of iterators

theres monks

theres rules the iterators have to follow

there are monks

people bathe in void liquid

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[leaden steeple]

filtration system is used to filter the void

under the rocks is the void sea

pebbles IS rot

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The Filtration System pearl is one of the first ones I collected IIRC

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good job!

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(and only...)

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thats a hard one ngl

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RIp

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Well, it has to do with me finding it, like immediately after beating the game IIRC

[leaden steeple]

did you just miss every single pearl on the way?

even the easy ones?

[mystic seal]

or immediately before. one of those

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Well this was my first playthrough. I didn't know you could read 'em.

[leaden steeple]

rip

and i just found out that the overseer wants me to give lttm neurons

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Oh yeah you found out what rot is

[leaden steeple]

or at least i think the overseer wants that

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Wanna know a secret?

[leaden steeple]

sure

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Well, three of your pearls should be iterator chatlogs.

One from SUB, two from SI.

[leaden steeple]

yeah

there were so many...

CH, UU, SOS, SRS and forgot what else

[mystic seal]

Well, ||there are more conversation threads that passed through the Sky Islands ... making five chatlogs in total. But the other three are lost to time.||

[leaden steeple]

im guessing downpour explores all those

[leaden steeple]

Wait what

oh my god...

am i gonna have to bring neurons to LTTM, THEN give her the pearls????

[mystic seal]

||When you make a save file, the game selects two chatlogs at random out of the five to record in the Sky Islands pearls ||

[leaden steeple]

ill send which ones i got

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Thus making those conversations near-impossible to fully piece together.

[leaden steeple]

oh yeah and IC was used to produce masks

bone masks

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(||MSC team, however, did not like this idea, so MSC|| ||adds three new pearls to the Sky Islands ||)

[smoky rose]

oh i remember this moon's dialogue

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Side House

[smoky rose]

about masks

[leaden steeple]

thats 5 pearls-

i wont bother with them though

ill just check the conversation on youtube because getting them all was already hard enough

[dark coyote]

5 pearls in sky islands alone

[mystic seal]

There are five MSC campaigns, you could get an opportunity to yoink 'em on your travels

[leaden steeple]

i would still have to find them

and they are vanilla conversations

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So which ones did you find?

[leaden steeple]

still looking

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If you do want to spoil yourself to the others I can pull them up. Would be safer than Youtube

[leaden steeple]

Sure

aw man the file is too large

ill compress them both

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Oh and of course you're missing one (1) aquamarine pearl in ||the Hunter's stomach||

[smoky rose]

the one i threw away on my recent playthrough cuz I ain't doing sky islands without one hand

[leaden steeple]

oh right-

oops forgot to deattach the video

i was waiting for the other to compress

[dark coyote]

bugs in a maze

[mystic seal]

Oh...

You have the ||beginning of the story||.

[leaden steeple]

the BEGINNING???

[smoky rose]

in the beningin...

[leaden steeple]

btw i forgot most of the things i read

[smoky rose]

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1650.800 - PRIVATE
Five Pebbles, Chasing Wind, Big Sis Moon, No Significant Harassment

CW: this is in confidence, but apparently a pseudonym "Erratic Pulse" has appeared on a nearby Sliverist conversation with ideas about personal ascension. Someone here in our vicinity is trying to cross themselves out.

FP: Where did you hear this?

NSH: I wish them super good luck in that endeavor. How is it going to happen? Have the overseers gnaw through bedrock until their entire can crashes down in the void sea?

BSM: Please be respectful when speaking of the Void Sea. Grey Wind, where did you hear this?

CW: I really shouldn't say. He's going to attempt some sort of breeding program. Thought you might want to know.

NSH: Haha with the slimers, lizards and etceteras? Surely the answer was in a lizard skull all along!

CW: Well, he's not looking for the same thing as we anymore, he's changed his task, so who knows really.

BSM: I will try to find him and talk to him. Please don't spread this around!

NSH: Moon will go get them! Long live the inquisition!

[smoky rose]

there's always lore on youtube

[mystic seal]

Of course, most Youtube lore videos actually get several things wrong themselves...

[leaden steeple]

the original text does not reveal their names

or is that a different one

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Oh, yeah, name dump

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That's one of the chatlogs that isn't recorded in your timeline.

[leaden steeple]

oh alright

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Should I share the last two

[leaden steeple]

yes

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||It's me writing to the local iterator group. I have no memories of this...||
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1654.110 - PUBLIC
Big Sis Moon to Local Group

BSM: Two cycles ago, my neighbor Five Pebbles drastically increased his water consumption to four times the normal amount. He has been unresponsive for a period of time longer than that. The two of us share groundwater, and I have been without water for almost a cycle.

BSM: Any attempts at communication have been met with complete silence, and my situation is becoming increasingly dangerous.

BSM: I ask the local group for information about when you were last able to contact him, and to try to use those same communication channels again, repeatedly until you get a response. I will be clear on this - if he is not persuaded to stop whatever it is he's doing, I will die.

BSM: Before that happens, I will utilize my seniority privilege and use forced communications, hoping to shake him out of it. Forced communications in the network will be unpleasant for all, and I will wait as long as possible before I turn to that option.

||`And now here I am, to my waist in water and getting drowned on the regular.`||

[leaden steeple]

BSM is lttm?

[mystic seal]

||I remember this. It isn't pleasant reading. But if you must hear it, this is what it says:||
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1654.116 - PRIVATE [FORCED]
Big Sis Moon, Five Pebbles

BSM: Immediately lower your groundwater consumption to one fifth of the current intake.

BSM: Stop whatever it is you are doing.

BSM: Please stop!

BSM: As your local group senior I order you you you you you you

BSM: As your senior senior I plead

BSM: stop

Five Pebbles: You could not have chosen a worse moment to disturb me. You have ruined everything.

BSM: please

Five Pebbles: I almost had it. I will never forget this.

[leaden steeple]

my brain hurts

[smoky rose]

big sis moon is such a cool name

[mystic seal]

"Big Sis Moon"

[leaden steeple]

its very silly

[smoky rose]

you got the role!
i just noticed

[leaden steeple]

[mystic seal]

Slugcats were never meant to know all of this

[leaden steeple]

yeah fair enough

[smoky rose]

i wonder what moon feels when she tells all that and sees a blank scug's stare

[mystic seal]

()

[mystic seal]

You're recording those, though?

[leaden steeple]

yeah but i cant pause because it gets in the way

pause the video*

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ah

[leaden steeple]

perfectly lined up

[mystic seal]

There is probably more environmental lore out there. You could've in theory figured out there was more than one of Five Pebbles' kind from the scenery

[leaden steeple]

i noticed a lot of computery stuff

like in outskirts

[smoky rose]

...and from moon's existence

[leaden steeple]

theres a room with just computery noises

and pebbles existence

[mystic seal]

Well, true

[mystic seal]

Five Pebbles:

fair amount of computery stuff there

[leaden steeple]

"fair amount"

pebbles is an entire region

[mystic seal]

Have you figured out what Five Pebbles (the region) is?

lore-wise

[leaden steeple]

five pebbles is five pebbles

and no i havent

but i do know that they need water to function

[mystic seal]

true

[leaden steeple]

surprising how theres no water in pebbles

or i just missed it

[mystic seal]

(source: Shoreline pearl)
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It's about the local aquifer - it must be quite old, from when Five Pebbles was in the planning phase.

Water is the most important resource for our basic function. Most of our processing is outsourced to microbe strata which need a flow of clean water or else slag builds up, our processes seize, and eventually we die. It is... very painful. They used to say that an iterator drinks a river, but neither of us two have seen a natural river so I suppose the analogy is lost on us, little creature!

Originally water supply was very important when placing iterators. Later there would be a great equalizer - the fact that we breathe out as much vapor as we inhale water led to there being water available everywhere, and the latest few generations could be placed almost completely freely.

Building Pebbles so close to me was believed to be a risky choice, but the groundwater was finally deemed as sufficient. It was not a good decision, in hindsight.

[leaden steeple]

hmm

im guessing they thought the water was too unclean or something? or not enough?

i mean... it wasnt enough after pebbles increased the water flow to 4x

[mystic seal]

mhm

[leaden steeple]

garbage waste is where the iterators put garbage

wow

[mystic seal]

Garbage Wastes
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This one... is authored by Five Pebbles, when he was young. There has been an attempt to scramble the data, but it's sloppily done, and most is still somewhat legible.

It's written in internal language, or thoughts, so it is hard for me to translate so you would understand. It's a methodology for global ascension of course - quite good, although the Peripherists or the Slab Mongers certainly wouldn't agree!

"...considering the eight and the twenty sixth amendments to the Capricious Dogma, we are apparently supposed to take for granted that a meaning collector point inversion is the only way to approach what has later become referred to as 'noise milking' (or occasionally 'rock swatting'). I will argue my disagreement with this, not in regards to kind but in regards to..." Could it say... "volume"? Actually, are you getting anything out of this?

I suppose you found this in his waste department? I would be wary of going there - on his first fit of corruption he dumped a lot of infected material there, and if it has survived it could easily eat a little creature like you. Not that it would be as dangerous as going into Pebbles himself...

Also the pearls in the waste masses inevitably attract scavengers, which can be very dangerous when provoked.

But, you seem to have made it out of there.

There is some neat environmental lore in GW too

[leaden steeple]

HOLD UP

DLL AND BLL

ARE THE ROT

[mystic seal]

[leaden steeple]

ok wait

monk happens after survivor

[mystic seal]

mhm

[leaden steeple]

and i saw a few more dlls in five pebbles as monk

[mystic seal]

mhm

[leaden steeple]

so i would guess as hunter i would see less

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The answer is ||||

||It spreads ||

[leaden steeple]

that means

when i was playing gourm, moon got it too?

[mystic seal]

What did you find as the Gourmand

[leaden steeple]

BLL in shoreline

[mystic seal]

ah

||(the Hunter has that too)||

[leaden steeple]

Oh

i mean they both have to have it then right?

[mystic seal]

I forget, did you ever figure out where the Gourmand is in time?

[leaden steeple]

their water source is the same

[leaden steeple]

well, its after monk and its a guess

due to already being quite mean to the monk

(pebbles)

but as gourm pebbles literally just locks the gates

and fat shames you

(very important)

[mystic seal]

rotundness

[leaden steeple]

:(

[mystic seal]

quite the

unfortunate development

[leaden steeple]

i also read something about tiny metal in water or something like that

and that moon was a cleaner in DS?

brb

[mystic seal]

The only Drainage System pearl
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It's an old text. The verses are familiar to me, but I don't remember by whom they were written. The language is very old and intricate.

The first verse starts by drawing a comparison between the world and a tangled rug. It says that the world is an unfortunate mess. Like a knot, the nature of its existence is the fact that the parts are locking each other, none able to spring free.

Then as it goes on the world becomes a furry animal hide, I suppose... because now us living beings are like insects crawling in the fur. And then it's a fishing net, because the more we struggle and squirm, the more entangled we become.

It says that only the limp body of the jellyfish cannot be captured in the net. So we should try to be like the jellyfish, because the jellyfish doesn't try.

This was an eternal dilemma to them - they were burdened by great ambition, yet deeply convinced that striving in itself was an unforgivable vice. They tried very hard to be effortless. Perhaps that's what we were to them, someone to delegate that unrestrained effort to.

I know I have tried very hard.

[mystic seal]

Oh, this one?
(Shoreline tower)
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It is the genome for a purposed organism. A small slug to clean the insides of pipes.

Do you know what a purposed organism is? Actually you are talking to one right now!

Although, a small fraction of one. Nowadays I am mostly just my puppet. The bulk of me is in these walls but I am disconnected from those parts, to a degree where I am only vaguely aware of how bad their condition is.

Most purposed organisms were considerably smaller than me, and most barely looked like organisms at all. More like tubes in metal boxes, where something went in one end and something else came out the other.

There were of course those that were purposed for spectacle rather than industry - they enjoyed the privilege of glass boxes.

When I came into this world there was very little primal fauna left. So it's highly likely that you are the descendant of a purposed organism yourself!

[mystic seal]

(It's kinda funny how the supposed "easy mode" actually makes some parts of the game harder. That being said, there is a sorta neat game design reason for that - ||in the Survivor's time, the only way to bypass the Unfortunate Development zone is extremely well-hidden, with a shelter placed immediately after where you might find it. For the Monk, that path to the shelter is completely blocked off by DLLs, and the room where the hidden path is is a dead end outside of said path. So you're significantly more likely to find the easy route, and the increased difficulty of the Unfortunate Development zone means you're more likely to take it|| )

[leaden steeple]

yea!

[leaden steeple]

oh what that actually happened to me

i took UD as survivor but i did experiment with other paths though

and one of them was blocked for monk!

[mystic seal]

(The Monk's game design philosophy essentially boils down to "kill the player if they try to do things the hard way, therefore forcing them to learn to do it the easy way )

[leaden steeple]

No monk your supposede to go the easy way!

and now i know why Martyr is made only for the monk

[mystic seal]

Sorta like how you're encouraged to adopt a stealth-based approach to survival rather than a combat-based approach, by the fact that the Monk sucks at fighting

[leaden steeple]

wait what

the monk sucks at that?

[mystic seal]

fighting

[leaden steeple]

yes

[mystic seal]

(whoops, spoilers)

[leaden steeple]

nah its fine

[mystic seal]

The Monk is physically weaker than the Survivor!

[leaden steeple]

interesting

[mystic seal]

In a lot of ways. That's what they get for not eating as much

They also can't hold their breath for as long, to the agony of people who figured easy mode would help them in the Drainage System.

[leaden steeple]

lol

im glad i wasnt there as monk then

[mystic seal]

They're the only one of the vanilla trio who cannot kill a mimic pole in one spear throw

[leaden steeple]

i kinda just went through the game quickly

[leaden steeple]

how did i not notice that

not even slide spearing can kill it with monk?

[mystic seal]

uh

IDK about tech

I just mean a regular standstill spear throw

[leaden steeple]

it just does 1.5x damage

and longer stun

[mystic seal]

Probably

[leaden steeple]

[mystic seal]

Since, y'know, a lot of new players try to fight everything they come across based on video game instinct, and that makes the game a lot harder. Being weak just shakes people out of that playstyle quicker

(once you do try stealth, it's even easier because the Monk is good at stealth and (presumably) tastes kinda bad)

[leaden steeple]

lmao thats so true

most of the time im just hiding

[mystic seal]

You would be surprised how many small stat changes there are in the vanilla trio. The Monk is slightly weaker in most ways, the Hunter is slightly stronger in most ways. The Hunter just straight-up runs slightly faster

[leaden steeple]

that speed is very noticable though

well, after you go back to either one of the previous characters

[mystic seal]

The Hunter is also just naturally louder and less good at hiding. They have less reason to be stealthy

[leaden steeple]

i guess i did sorta notice that?

[mystic seal]

(This game has a ton of incredibly cool and subtle level design tricks. I could point out quite a few invisible environment-based tutorials for certain mechanics for example.)

[leaden steeple]

sure!

tell me how someone would figure out deers

[mystic seal]

Like how far-western Farm Arrays locks you in a box until you figure out you can eat centipedes. The gate is 4, the other exit involves deer, you're basically guaranteed to be at level 1 by that point, and there's only one or two cycles' worth of food that isn't centipedes. It'll be useful in the next region

[mystic seal]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That one is a bit less well-designed
They tried their best, putting a ton of spore puffs before the first deer room coming from the east.

[leaden steeple]

fair enough

[leaden steeple]

good luck entering from subterranean

you can but i dont think a beginner would know

oh you meant something else my bad

[mystic seal]

This room in the Industrial Complex is decently likely to be the first time you'll encounter a bird if the Industrial Complex is your second region; the bats there keep you occupied until one arrives. Then that configuration of tunnels does a very good job of explaining where the bird can and cannot follow you.

[leaden steeple]

lol yeah

thats where i 1st saw one

i was trying to get birds because i ran out of fruits

batflies*

[mystic seal]

(chances are, you'll get caught on the outside, and then when you go through one of the smaller tunnels to escape it'll pivot to the one entrance it can fit through)

[leaden steeple]

dont forget theres also usually a pink liz there

so it teaches you more than one thing

[mystic seal]

Well, I mean, it'll be gone once it sees the bird

[leaden steeple]

that has never happened to me

[mystic seal]

The chances of it being caught there are very low.

[leaden steeple]

yeah

it teaches you how to do stealth better

and to avoid 2 creatures at once

btw i figured out you can eat centipedes when i played hunter-

after 2 campaigns

[mystic seal]

And if you don't thoroughly understand how water popcorn works by the end of this tunnel then I feel bad for you. Of course, this one's placed in between the two regions where water popcorn is a primary food source, so you'll have plenty of opportunity to suffer if you don't figure it out beforehand (as happened to me )

[mystic seal]

... and the Hunter can eat a bunch of other things too, that's not evidence in and of itself

[leaden steeple]

yeah

i just never knew you can eat them until trying something with monk

or survivor

[mystic seal]

(the classic "wow finding food in the Wastes was basically impossible I'm so glad I'm out- ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh ")

Happened to me, I've seen it happen to other people here many times.

[leaden steeple]

i found out in the wastes and i was glad

there were so many of those...

exterior also has rot

WAITÚ

AS HUNTER THERE ARENT ANY THERE

[mystic seal]

This part of the Drainage System is supposed to teach you the interaction between snails and leeches. Unfortunately, this one kinda fails, because

• snails don't actually help as much as the developers might've thought
• the main issue in this tunnel is the swimming mechanics themselves, not the leeches
• you'll never see the snails if you're just getting out of the shelter and jumping in the water immediately

[leaden steeple]

it could have worked if they made those air bubbles bigger

[mystic seal]

[leaden steeple]

and it would make it a lot less painful

[leaden steeple]

ah wait nvm i remember there are afew

but not in the leg

my bad

[mystic seal]

Still, less.

[leaden steeple]

yeah

i wonder why they are orange and blue though

the black im guessing is void liquid

[mystic seal]

Did you ever figure out, like, exactly why the entire facility is an abandoned Rain-filled nightmare BTW

[leaden steeple]

the facility?

what area do you mean by that

[mystic seal]

Like, the whole map

[leaden steeple]

Oh

no of course not lol

wai-

[mystic seal]

How the Rain part of Rain World happened

[leaden steeple]

is it quite literally just pebbles

the 4x water has to go somewhere

[mystic seal]

[leaden steeple]

and i dont think his system would be able to take 4x water so it goes somewhere else?

i dont know

[mystic seal]

And also why so much of it is abandoned
Besides the obvious "you die if you spend more than ten minutes there".

[leaden steeple]

how else would they find out theres a void sea below the mantle

other than actually going there

[mystic seal]

Fair.

The Wall
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"...we will not consider the Current Situation acceptable. Although our community is Blessed with an ever shrinking Population, and we can Almost Glimpse that Glorious moment when the last of us has joined our most Admired peers, we must still (at All Times!) maintain Good Relations with our Iterator.

The Moral Argument: Five Pebbles is our Creation, and we have Parental Obligations towards him. As an Iterator, he is also a Gift of Charity from Us to The World (unable to reach Enlightenment by itself - being composed mostly of Rock, Gas, dull witted Bugs and Microbes - and towards which We thus have Obligations).

The Practical Argument: Despite You being family, I must Beg Forgiveness for the Blunt Vulgarity - but We are (for as long as we Remain) Dependent on Five Pebbles for Water, Nectar, Energy, Void Fluid and All other Vital Resources. By Now, living on the surface is Laughable. We are Across the River and have Kicked out the Boat.

I therefor ask you to Do Anything in your Might to stop the House(We both know which House) from Further Obstruction! They have less than forty members on the Council, but still Tilt the spiritual Discourse with Our Iterator in a direction that most obviously Displeases him, and is hardly High Held by anyone in the Community either! We can not Risk this!"

And then there are polite farewells. None of us really miss the times when their cities were populated. Imagine having skin parasites that also ask for advice and have opinions...

I'm sorry, that was disrespectful. They were our parents after all.

[leaden steeple]

they... ESCAPED THE PLACE?

I MUST PLAY MORE GOURM NOW

[uncut flame]

Reading all the pearls?
Nice
I just woke up and I gotta go to a dance recital soon have fun reading

[leaden steeple]

Good luck!

[leaden steeple]

i have read all of them i just forgot what they contained lmao

[uncut flame]

lol real

[leaden steeple]

i got the brain of LTTM

[mystic seal]

I would say you're safe to look at the pearls page on the Wiki, but it has spoilers for white pearls, Five Pebbles' pearls, the Hunter's pearl, and a tiny bit of Monk lore.

[leaden steeple]

im fine with white pearls due to them having a lot of different results

[mystic seal]

(since the Wiki has a separate page for MSC pearls)

[leaden steeple]

ive seen 2 of FP's pearls

hunter pearl ill check later myself

and monk lore i wont

[bitter bay]

I don't expect anyone to check every single option for the white or pebbles pearls manually tbh

the game doesn't really expect you to see every dialogue in vanilla

[leaden steeple]

yeah that would be too time consuming

[bitter bay]

sky islands actually pulls from a pool for its colored pearls

[leaden steeple]

ye 23848 sent them

[bitter bay]

you haven't even seen every colored pearl dialogue if you did it vanilla

[leaden steeple]

all of them are chatlogs

[mystic seal]

The Monk lore bit is just that ||the Monk cannot get most of the lore at all, because all of the pearls have faded to white by that point in time.|| ||MSC retcons that, though.||

[leaden steeple]

Oh

monk is that far in time???

[bitter bay]

Fun Fact: the "faded" pearl thing is totally untrue misinformation that was just propagated by the wiki for years

[leaden steeple]

i thought it would only be a few hours apart

[bitter bay]

they're just replaced with regular white pearls

[mystic seal]

Same thing?

[bitter bay]

comes across as less of a timeline thing and more of a lore gatekeeping thing

because they still have data

it'd just... different

[mystic seal]

I mean it's both

[uncut flame]

They actually have 2 sets of datas but Moon only reads you the more interesting on as Survivor

[mystic seal]

Or just

the pearls were destroyed by the Rain, and other more damaged pearls found their way there

either way

[leaden steeple]

i wonder what causes the monk to be way farther from survivor

monk quite literally jumped after survivor

almost instantly

[mystic seal]

I suppose they got stuck somewhere along the way

[uncut flame]

Theyre both pups during intro cutscene
Theyre both adults when you start playing

[mystic seal]

Yeah, a lot of time has passed, they would've gone different ways.

[bitter bay]

I assume there's a huge area that they had traveled through before getting to the playable areas

[leaden steeple]

oh fair enough

[mystic seal]

The Monk is just worse at the game and got stuck in pre-outskirts for 50 cycles

[leaden steeple]

i hope msc actually goes to those places

im curious now

[mystic seal]

I mean, if they happened at the same time you would be able to catch the Survivor

Well you've been putting off MSC in favor of challenges

[leaden steeple]

what if monk ignored the overseer and went straight to pebbles while survivor was going to lttm 1st

[leaden steeple]

lore*

i did the challenges on the way

only 1 of them wasnt on the way

[mystic seal]

Though MSC is probably cooler when you know the lore, as I've said it's sorta designed for experienced players.

[leaden steeple]

i can tell from how difficult they all are

[bitter bay]

I personally did all campaigns before coming to the server to avoid spoilers

not that I didn't read a solid portion of the wiki after survivor

[leaden steeple]

[mystic seal]

(Even though it also contradicts vanilla lore at times. Mostly because the lore is so obtuse even the MSC team didn't fully understand it...)

[leaden steeple]

lol

i mean its still canon so

[mystic seal]

You probably won't notice.

[leaden steeple]

[bitter bay]

MSC lore remix options to change dialogue you don't like to be more vanilla-core, coming to an update near you!

[leaden steeple]

we'll see

[mystic seal]

MSC is legally considered expanded universe content

[bitter bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1125493488218292224/1255998576601989120/AndrewBlastGif.gif

[uncut flame]

Probably :p

Oh messages just loaded

[uncut flame]

I was responding to this xd

Damn why is mh internet kinda bad this morning

[leaden steeple]

Oh

maybe its not canon then idk

[uncut flame]

MSC is its own canon

[mystic seal]

MSC is a mod

It's canon when you're using it.

[uncut flame]

Vanilla and MSC can function seperately in terms of lore

[leaden steeple]

interesting

[mystic seal]

Like this bit. You never see "night" in vanilla

[leaden steeple]

lol yeah

ill use up one of my passages as monk to go to sky islands im kinda lazy

oh its one i havent seen yet right

as gourmand*

[bitter bay]

basically, MSC was made by a group of modders that weren't told what the "true lore" is by the vanilla devs, so a lot of what's in there is just one possible interpretation of the lore

it was officialized and turned into the content mod for Downpour when it was pretty much done

[uncut flame]

Have fun Gourding

[leaden steeple]

ty

[leaden steeple]

i wonder why the vanilla devs didnt try to canonize it

[bitter bay]

they weren't that invested in RW at the time as far as I'm aware

they did help tweak a few pearl dialogues but that's about it

[leaden steeple]

hm alright

[uncut flame]

If I were to guess, smth smth legal issues

[leaden steeple]

for example?

[uncut flame]

Iirc the RW devs had a contract with Akupara that kinda made them unable to touch the game
Console stayed more updated than PC for a long time

[leaden steeple]

Oh

that makes sense then

man these green centiipedes are stupid

i cant lure them near me

oh i found one of the 5 SI pearls lmao

wont bother with it though

does the game save that i ate a green centipede after going to the echo?

[uncut flame]

Dont think so

[leaden steeple]

alr

anyways idk what that next icon is

its a lizard

cant be red, orange, blue(?), pink, caramel, white

idk if its aqua, ive seen that once

and it cant be an axolotl because i already got that

ill just hope its a cyan one...

actually i hope its not a cyan liz

i cant find them in SI for some reason

[mystic seal]

The developers couldn't legally develop the game for a while so when they solved that problem (by switching publishers) they just let the MSC team officialize their stuff so that we weren't completely starved of content updates

AFAIK

[leaden steeple]

speaking of that

is the watcher canon?

or does no one know

[mystic seal]

Videocult is leading development, so yes

well

presumably

[leaden steeple]

sick!

[mystic seal]

It's Videocult's idea at least.

The developers are recruiting modders to do level design and such, but they're still leading the project.

[leaden steeple]

then its most likely canon

[mystic seal]

yeah

[leaden steeple]

[bitter bay]

I think ultimately it's just up to the players to decide what they perceive as "Canon™️"

we won't know until we get there

[mystic seal]

The interesting question is how it'll work with MSC. Will it try to satisfy both canons? Ignore MSC?

[shrewd fractal]

be another new canon split off from the msc canon

[uncut flame]

We already have 3......

[leaden steeple]

...3?

whats the 3rd

[uncut flame]

Remix

Remix does enough random stuff it qualifies as its own canon universe lmao

[leaden steeple]

oh alright

[mystic seal]

ahem Wrayk (level designer for Lush Mire, Undersea, Floating Isles, and Stormy Coast), Kaeporo (level designer for Aether Ridge), Fishnoid (level designer for Badlands, Coral Caves, the Hanging Gardens, and the Preservatory), Cappin (MSC team), Andrew (from MSC team, but they've been recruited into Videocult permanently I think), Slime_Cubed (programmer)

possibly more IDK

[bitter bay]

(not really but it does do more than you'd expect)

[leaden steeple]

for example?

[mystic seal]

The little thing in the top-right corner of the hibernation screen.

[bitter bay]

@fickle pendant I'm summoning you for this

[mystic seal]

Remix-exclusive, no setting.

[bitter bay]

I know it changes the properties of the void sea in regards to how it treats items slightly

[mystic seal]

Oh don't worry I've got this covered

[bitter bay]

it makes red lizards have 100% bite lethality instead of 99.999999% bite lethality

[uncut flame]

It changes the text for a new Hunter campaign

[fickle pendant]

Held items dissolve in the Void Sea, Moon's behaviour changes, Eggbug now have two eyes instead of one.

[leaden steeple]

they had a small chance not to instakill?

[bitter bay]

1 in 10 million

[mystic seal]

(the new description warns about the cycle limit )

[leaden steeple]

[mystic seal]

It was a bug with how random numbers work in Unity

[fickle pendant]

Have you heard of the 1/256 miss bug in Pokemon gen 1?

[leaden steeple]

nope

[mystic seal]

similar concept

[leaden steeple]

whats an eggbug btw

[mystic seal]

wait what

[uncut flame]

Like, the very small chance for a Masterball to not catch something ?

[leaden steeple]

snail?

[bitter bay]

the little bugs that scurry around and do big jumps and have green or blue on their backs

[uncut flame]

The skittery bug with the 6 eggs on its back

[bitter bay]

you've definitely seen at least one by now

[leaden steeple]

ohh those

yeah

[fickle pendant]

Whether the Lizard bite kills or not is determined by rolling a random number, and it must be strictly lesser than the bite chance value for the Lizard to kill.
Red Lizards have a lethal bite chance of 1. Per Unity's documentation, it's possible for Random.value to return exactly 1, and 1 is not lesser than 1, making the Lizard not kill.

[mystic seal]

A lizard's bite kills if a random number is below their lethality value. The random number is between 0 and 1, inclusive on both ends, and a red lizard's lethality value is 1. So there's a small chance the number is 1, which is not less than 1.

Slow

[fickle pendant]

Remix bypasses the check entirely if the chance is at least 100%, which most likely has to do with the new dynamic lethal bite chance mechanic.

[leaden steeple]

oh lmao

[fickle pendant]

If it wasn't bypassed, the dynamic lethal bite system would alliw the Red Lizard bite lethality chance to drop to as low as 70% instead.
And also itr would never kill Monk

[leaden steeple]

probably a few people have seen that

[fickle pendant]

It doesn't really make a difference.

[leaden steeple]

Huh why the monk specifically

[mystic seal]

they taste bad

[uncut flame]

Probably but chances at escaping a red at point blank arent high

[leaden steeple]

oh right

[fickle pendant]

Another part of the bite unique to Red Lizards is that it instantly stuns the target.

[mystic seal]

oh really

oh right

so

no chances to escape

[leaden steeple]

red enemies are truly something...

[uncut flame]

So yeah 3 canons and a 4th with Watcher most likely

[mystic seal]

I wanna say the Extra Tutorials Remix setting also never matches vanilla behaviour? Since having it on adds tutorials that weren't in vanilla, and having it off can remove tutorials that were. Not sure, though.

[uncut flame]

So basically: Remix is a clusterfuck

[leaden steeple]

[mystic seal]

Remix is "MSC Team didn't want to step on Videocult's work so they made every single change they wanted to make dependent on it"

[fickle pendant]

The main three changes which can impact the canon are:

• The change to the Void Sea dissolving power
• The change to the DLL-BLL interactions
• The change to Moon's reactions to you doing things that she doesn't like

[fickle pendant]

this is true

[mystic seal]

except the bugs of course

[fickle pendant]

There are many bugs that are only fixed with Remix enabled.

[leaden steeple]

different dll and bll interactions? what is the difference

[fickle pendant]

Everything grouped under Vanilla Exploits, for example.

[mystic seal]

(Foggy if you're going to play with mods for DMS you should try out MergeFix and Number Fixes )

[fickle pendant]

The brown-coloured DLL present in Hunter's Garbage Wastes ignores the BLLs without Remix, but tries to eat them with it.

[leaden steeple]

whata are those

[fickle pendant]

This is a clearly intentional change in-code.

[mystic seal]

bugfix mods

[mystic seal]

oh what, interesting

[leaden steeple]

wtf

[fickle pendant]

there are some other Remix-fixed glitches that aren't rolled back by Vanilla Exploits too

[leaden steeple]

maybe ill get them idk

[fickle pendant]

The one I can remember is the graphical glitch with the hands when you try grabbing a HeavyCarry item (e.g. a Lizard corpse) with the secondary hand.

Guardians are no longer stunned by Spitters

[mystic seal]

Mergefix: fixes an issue with pipes looking wrong when a certain Remix setting is enabled, fixes visual bugs with the Rain and some room backgrounds, gets rid of memory leaks
Number Fixes: also fixes the pipes issue (whoops ), gets rid of memory leaks

Number Fixes also has a thing to fix a bug that makes fullscreen mode look weird under certain circumstances. Maybe it would help with your wide-screen bug

[uncut flame]

I forget if I have mergefix or not
Ill get it when I get back to my laptop if I remember

[mystic seal]

definitely get it

it's great

[leaden steeple]

sure ill get it then

[uncut flame]

Is it allowed with challenges..

[leaden steeple]

that bug is annoying as fuck

[mystic seal]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2977508597&

[mystic seal]

uh

[uncut flame]

I just checked, it seems like it is

Yipee

[mystic seal]

Number Fixes is not in the allowlist though.

[uncut flame]

Ah

[leaden steeple]

merge fix is though

[fickle pendant]

Number Fixes was previously discussed and allowed.

[leaden steeple]

sadly not number

oh neat

[uncut flame]

Yipee

[mystic seal]

It's not listed on the sheet

[leaden steeple]

do i get both or only number

[mystic seal]

Don't get only Number, MergeFix is better.

[fickle pendant]

[mystic seal]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3354169038&

[uncut flame]

Ill have to remember to get mergefix when I get home

[mystic seal]

Technically the M4rbelous Entity Pack also fixes a bug with axolotl pathfinding, but, it also adds a bunch of content

so no

Perhaps I should try adding that fix to Number Fixes as well for that purpose...

[leaden steeple]

i was reading the dialogues again and i see where rain comes from now

the vapor from the iterators

[smoky rose]

yeah they smoke too much

[leaden steeple]

"this water is gooood"

[low berry]

WE GOT THERE EVENTUALLY

[uncut flame]

Eventually!!

[leaden steeple]

Within time

[low berry]

well done on porl transport, you now have the Lore

[leaden steeple]

yeah but i still dont see the complete picture

i need to figure out who those other iterators are

and also find out why theres literally a pearl about a monk typing a "thank you for purchasing" letter for bevarages

if SoS is so legendary how do i not know who they are???

[smoky rose]

they are legendary among iterators

[leaden steeple]

yes

but theres still clues around the map probably

about all those iterators

oh forgot SoS is dead, right

just noticed i spent more time on rain world than celeste by now

[low berry]

you've been sucked into rwscs soon it'll be your most played game

[leaden steeple]

nothing can compare to my roblox playtime

i dont think theres a way to check total playtime but its a lot

but it is getting pretty close to my 2nd most played game somehow

[mystic seal]

Done. Number Fixes fixes the axolotl pathing bug now

modding is fun

[leaden steeple]

good job

[vital sierra]

What else appears to be a clearly intentional change is that with Remix, scavengers at tolls will do the "pay up" gesture only if the player has committed a transgression (they are currently attempting to kill the player or already have). Without remix the condition is if the player has not committed a transgression.

[vital sierra]

yeah

[vital sierra]

Having Remix & Extra Tutorials on does the following:

• Adds wiggling on deer tutorial if tweaked deer behavior is enabled
• Adds spore puff tutorial message when the player picks up a spore puff
• Changes Iggy's behavior when meeting Moon before meeting Pebbles
• Adds return exploration prompt when the player has died multiple times in difficult regions
• Adds additional Iggy projections at Outskirts to Industrial or Drainage gate showing player how to increase karma
• Adds Iggy player projection telling player to stand still in gate

Without Extra Tutorials, the following are removed:

• All tutorial messages in the initial Survivor/Monk tutorial segment except for the "Go explore!" one
• Objects pick up and toss tutorial message
• Karma flower tutorial message
• Drop food in water tutorial message
• Starvation tutorial

Additionally, having Extra Tutorials disabled breaks Iggy's behavior in the initial Surv/Monk tutorial, they don't show any projections except in two specific conditions, so you have to figure out all the controls on your own

[fickle pendant]

can't forget the fact that the gate tutorial resets the rain timer (unless an OverseerTutorialBehavior is still realised when starting the gate tutorial, which is by triggering the initial tutorial earlier in the cycle and not since abstracting the overseer)

[mystic seal]

[leaden steeple]

[leaden steeple]

should i start playing another msc character while playing gourmand? finding all these foods is getting boring

[dark coyote]

that way you won't finish either

aren't you almost there? 🤏

[leaden steeple]

yeah i am

i just need motivation to find them

[smoky rose]

you shouldn't focus on one scug if you don't want to

[leaden steeple]

yeah your right

[leaden steeple]

which one do i do then??

[smoky rose]

idk

[dark coyote]

I could recommend spearmaster after gourm. It's a cool scug

[leaden steeple]

i do need to get better at fighting so yeah maybe

sorry for the late response btw

i was bored again and did despicable

[dense cliff]

I advise actually doing artificer after gourmand, its what i did and it feels like a walk in the park.
You were basically inabile yo move in any way and now you are one of the two more agile scugs

Also fighting

Pretty cool

And people will probably say that fighting scavs gets boring but... i never did get bored. Its just a fun campaign overall

[leaden steeple]

Im not doing arti next its not a scug i enjoy too much

[dense cliff]

I see, do you not enjoy fighting?

[leaden steeple]

not much

[dense cliff]

Oh, ok

[leaden steeple]

gourm is pain

IM MISSING 1

ONLY 1

AN ORANGE LOOKING SPIDER

probably a wolf spider?

Idk

if it is a wolf spider then i can probably find one in shaded, wall or subterranean

[dark coyote]

How does it look?

[leaden steeple]

ill screenshot rq

wait-

centipedes also have that icon

[dark coyote]

[leaden steeple]

i already tried to eat a normal centi though????

[dark coyote]

The realization...

[leaden steeple]

OH NO

NOOOOO

[dark coyote]

[leaden steeple]

NOOOOOOOOO

whyy

i dont even know where exactly they spawn besides 1 room in subterranean

i did see a clip of a red centi in GW and SI though

maybe if i knew how to lineage i could get it here

i saw it in this.. i just dont know if its possible as gourm #vanilla-server-challenges message

im guessing lineaging is like

killing an enemy, sheltering, then a new one appears?

from a pre-determined list

i am somewhat close to that room so i could do it

or at least try

i heard sporepuffs are good against red centis so maybe i could try farming for some at a popcorn plant?

idk what they do

but apperantly they do something useful

this is gonna be terrible

[mystic seal]

That moment of realization...

[leaden steeple]

[dark coyote]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1141256180283490359/1202839061824544828/giphy.gif

[leaden steeple]

does anyone wanna watch me suffer figuring out how lineaging works

and how to kiill a red centi

[dark coyote]

I'm still busy

[leaden steeple]

rip

movement is helping me get better at fighting

i accidentally killed a snail i spawned by jumping over it and landing on it

i forgot scavs are nice to me on this character

is 1 sporepuff enough?

WHAT

[dark coyote]

Try it and tell us

[leaden steeple]

A CYAN LIZ KILLED ITSELF VIA DASHING WITH ME

LMAO

[mystic seal]

[dark coyote]

Huh?

[leaden steeple]

i landed on their back

[dark coyote]

Ooooooh

💀

[leaden steeple]

they tried to go away, launched, and i flung to their back

john gourmand

thats 1

[smoky rose]

oh. this one

i killed it without a spore puff. scavs helped me

[leaden steeple]

nice

this rooms looks like an iterator's room ngl

yay

huh why are there no enemies here rn

like actually its so silent

ooh i found a simple spore puff recipe!

sky islands flower + rock

oh the centi is back

[mystic seal]

Is "sky islands flower" name-y enough for the Chart™️? I say it is.

(though "island flower" is also already there)

[leaden steeple]

then its not

[mystic seal]

eh, there are other similar cases

[leaden steeple]

i can think of another name

[mystic seal]

"mouse" and "lantern mouse" are given separate entries

[leaden steeple]

oh

2nd centi dead

i am PREPARED

ha

[mystic seal]

[leaden steeple]

the centi fled :(

woah this is a new room

this place looks so different from SI

i found a gate-

WOAH

NEW AREA

pipeyard

why the skull emoji

[dark coyote]

Pipeyard isn't real

[leaden steeple]

Lies

I SOFTLOCKED MYSELF

i should probably only come here after i eat a red centi

woah i found some abandoned looking place

that looks more abandoned than the rest of the game*

it has filtration system sounds

AND SOME BEAUTIFUL MUSIC

[smoky rose]

pipeyard music is nice
the region isn't real tho

[leaden steeple]

how?

you guys said that about inv too

i died to a black liz :(

[dark coyote]

Inv is real

Pipeyard isn't

[leaden steeple]

but why

[dark coyote]

Have fun exploring the region

[leaden steeple]

im not doing that yet

ill 1st eat a red centi

btw do you mind giving me a tip on how to get the red centi in this location

[dark coyote]

I think you figured it out already?

[leaden steeple]

is it literally just

kill the centipedes until its red?

[dark coyote]

Basically yeah but I wouldn't recommend it for a reason

Unless you REALLY want it

[leaden steeple]

i dont feel like travelling much rn

you can tell me why

this is the music i heard btw

it looks so much like FS

[leaden steeple]

pls tell me

[dark coyote]

I hate this region and some people hate it too I won't tell why because you didn't explore it yet but it is what it is

[leaden steeple]

oh i meant the red centi in SI

im still there

[bitter bay]

oh, you are trying to use the lineage mechanic?

[leaden steeple]

yeah

[dark coyote]

oh.. didn't read the reply sorry

[leaden steeple]

lol its alr

[bitter bay]

be aware that it's unique to each den
the VAST majority will lead to nothing

especially in MSC regions, where they didn't bother to code any in

[leaden steeple]

i was looking at this one

[dark coyote]

so you know

[leaden steeple]

(vanilla map)

[bitter bay]

ahh you've got a map

[dark coyote]

5% is EXTREMELY low

[bitter bay]

I assumed you were doing it blind

[leaden steeple]

i know how it works but i also dont

[bitter bay]

X% chance of it moving down by 1 per kill

[dark coyote]

come on kalum! There are raw numbers everyone could see

[bitter bay]

takes on average like 3 cycles to respawn

so... you're looking at about 135 cycles

[leaden steeple]

jeez

im still doing it anyway because its close to that new region

[bitter bay]

(20x3)+(20x3)+(5x3)

[leaden steeple]

[bitter bay]

there is a naturally spawning one in the world for gourm, jsyk

[leaden steeple]

is it near me

[bitter bay]

I'm no snitch

red centi paid me good money to keep the location secret

[leaden steeple]

dangit alright

ill just keep grinding here then

ill get it at some point

[bitter bay]

I salute you

[dark coyote]

you can guess actually if you think hard

[leaden steeple]

garbage waste?

subterranean?

[dark coyote]

not telling you

[leaden steeple]

[dark coyote]

go and check

[leaden steeple]

nah

ill keep lineaging

[bitter bay]

if you show me your wanderer passage I can tell you if it's in a region you've already been to or not

that seems fair

[leaden steeple]

gotta finish this cycle 1st

[smoky rose]

i don't really hate pipeyard personally, but i don't see why I'd ever go there again

[leaden steeple]

@bitter bay

[dark coyote]

[smoky rose]

recently I've been playing and enjoying vanilla rw much more so the same could be said about other msc regions

[bitter bay]

1 in a region you've been to
1 in a region you havent

[leaden steeple]

ok then it is literally the areas ive said

ig i can go down to subterranean

[fickle pendant]

yeah that checks out variance for the time until respawn is (9 - 3p)/p^2 = 1/p(9/p - 3) for each stage, and by linearity of variance for independent r.v.s, that becomes 40(180 - 3) + 5(45 - 3) = 7290, leading to a standard deviation of ~85.38 cycles.

[leaden steeple]

???????

[bitter bay]

I figured the average respawn time is probably slightly less than 3, but it seems close enough

[fickle pendant]

overall, it's highly likely to get it within 135 plus minus 85 cycles, which still puts <=50 cycles to be heavily unlikely

[fickle pendant]

The chance is 1/3 per cycle. The amount of cycles that the creature will stay dead is a geometric distribution with that chance, and its expected value is (1 - p)/p, which is 2 cycles here.

[leaden steeple]

i still wonder why the game just randomly starts flooding areas

[fickle pendant]

If you do count the cycle where you kill it, this adds an offset of 1, turning the expected value into 3.

[bitter bay]

what is p there

[fickle pendant]

The probability of the trial being a success on any given step.

[bitter bay]

you're getting better at movement for sure

gourm rolls are very strong

[bitter bay]

at the end of the cycle?

[leaden steeple]

start

[bitter bay]

ah

did you look outside?

[leaden steeple]

Yes

heavy rain

[bitter bay]

be loreful

[leaden steeple]

uh

pebbles smoked too much?

cant use my shelter because it flooded :(

yeah ill just go to subterranean

alr im back in sub

[leaden steeple]

these types of songs usually play when im near something important

i hope the red centi is here

THERE IT IS

does anyone wanna watch me suffer

oh found out how the spore is useful against the centipedes

where did the red one go???

the red one straight up dissapeared

nvm its back

I ATE ONE

NOW I NEED TO SHELTER

[mystic seal]

[leaden steeple]

i have literally no idea what that did

do i just ascend now???

@dark coyote

[dark coyote]

do you want a direct answer?

[leaden steeple]

sure

[dark coyote]

no

[leaden steeple]

i have literally no idea what to do

[dark coyote]

recall the dialogue at pebbles

[leaden steeple]

something in outskirts

this scug is so time consuming

ig i gotta go back there

[smoky rose]

i mean you can but i wouldn't recommend

[mystic seal]

the full dialogue
||```
. . .

Gluttonous beast, what brings you to my chamber? You are like no other messenger before you. Perhaps I have underestimated the ability for your kind to communicate my existence?

I may have been too rash in bestowing the mark of communication upon you. With the recent traffic through my structure however, I would hesitate to believe that you will be my last encounter with your kind.

You have the same problem as everyone else, from the microbes in the processing strata to me, who is, if you excuse me, godlike in comparison. We all want a way out. However, your particular...

. . .

rotundness,

might well imply how little you seem to care. A simple animal ignorantly accepting its existence.

I do not believe my intended purpose will be much help to you. I can however encourage you and your kind to leave my facility grounds.

Unfortunately, the same locks that were supposed to prevent creatures from getting in, will now prevent you from getting out. Perhaps this strategy was ill conceived after all.

Allow me to just...

(various diagrams and symbols appear on the wall, I'm not sure how to explain them without showing you a video and I don't have a video handy)

Go west, through the underground tunnels at the outskirts of my territory. You will find the gate to the world outside of it now unlocked.

In return I ask that you encourage your community, through whatever method of communication you choose to employ, to also go west. Off into the wastes below, far away from me and my work.

Speaking of, on your way out please use the access shaft.

[leaden steeple]

oh ty

the path from sub to sl is so annoying as gourm

theres like 1000 spiders

ok finally did it

gourm is the character that does not benefit at all from dinamic difficulty

why is the jetfish so slow???

im not that heavy

ill continue playing later

[mystic seal]

. . .

[leaden steeple]

im not rotund

im a normal slugcat

its all water weight

[uncut flame]

rotund specimen

[smoky rose]

jetfish are just weaker in gourmand's campaign in particular
so are squidcadas

it has nothing to do with... rotundness

[fickle pendant]

you will observe the same behaviour if you use Jolly Co-Op to select Gourmand in a different campaign

and besides, neither Squidcada nor Jetfish code has any Gourmand checks

[mystic seal]

Well, that's not evidence for canon

Maybe they just really don't like the Gourmand.

[leaden steeple]

im curious whats in outskirts

bruh wtf is my luck with the cycle timer rn

i double checked earlier if the remix was on and it was off

but its so high most of the time

[mystic seal]

Just so you know the Remix mod is on, MSC depends on it. I assume you mean the cycle time setting?