First playthrough shenanigans #2 (Inv completed..)

[mystic seal]

I don't RWSC

[leaden steeple]

oh

[mystic seal]

Ping @bitter bay

[leaden steeple]

i was just about to lmao

[mystic seal]

I think I saw somewhere that they like RWSCs

[leaden steeple]

you think he does?

maybe idk

[mystic seal]

possibly

I bet they've never even been to the Mast

[leaden steeple]

to what

[mystic seal]

(it's a mod)

[leaden steeple]

oh alr

[pastel plank]

Maybe a little

[leaden steeple]

[bitter bay]

yes

unless something is explicitly stated to be disallowed, it's allowed

I actually tried that exact strat before giving up and doing something else

[leaden steeple]

oh alright

ill shelter then ty

this is gonna be REALLYhelpful

[mystic seal]

(trying to resist the urge to explain what the Mast is it's such an awesome mod)

[leaden steeple]

btw how long does a spear stay in one spot

how many cycles

[mystic seal]

uh

I'm not entirely sure. 3-4-ish?

[leaden steeple]

ooh

thats really nice

[leaden steeple]

Pain

[leaden steeple]

I WAS SO CLOSE

[uncut flame]

I also tried spear strat before giving up and doing something else lol

[leaden steeple]

is spear strat really that bad

[uncut flame]

That final ledge poking out kinda makes it dumb unless youre good at #movement

Gotta love that 1-2 tiles making a strat significantly harder

[leaden steeple]

i died to that ledge

[leaden steeple]

i almost did it a few times

but not enough high to cliimb up

height to climb up

aaaAAAAAAAAA

ITS SO PAINFULLL

[uncut flame]

Props to you for keeping with spear strat lol

[leaden steeple]

well idk what else i would do

i dont think squids spawn in outskirts

or anything to help me get up there

[uncut flame]

Nothings stopping you from leaving the region and coming back with something :p

[leaden steeple]

true

[leaden steeple]

i gotta figure out what the other cutscenes as gourm mean

except the falling on a creature

im so sorry for whatever is under gourmand while falling...

[uncut flame]

Hehe crushed

[leaden steeple]

the force of a thousand suns

[leaden steeple]

i was so close to doing manslaughter

:(

[pastel plank]

Very cool to read this or of context

[leaden steeple]

i think ill be able to send a video if its heavily compressed

i had to compress it to 20% so hopefully it doesnt look absolutely terrible

i didnt kill everything so it was a fail

[dark coyote]

looks good in terms of quality tho... no speedrun validation here and there are still some scavs alive around Also there's a rule "All kills must be directed by Slugcat in some way" so no random lizards or explosions helping you

[leaden steeple]

oh

so they cant even kill themselves wow

what if they shoot eachother while trying to kill the threat i spawned????

whats speedrun validation btw

[smoky rose]

i think it shows currently enabled mods

[leaden steeple]

Oh

[smoky rose]

at least that's what i saw after enabling it

[leaden steeple]

yeah i should probably enable that

manslaughter has such a cool color... does anyone have tips for it?

[dark coyote]

you have to "kill" them before THEY do it

[dark coyote]

try sheltering closer to the toll. Doing it on cycle 0 is based but it takes a lot of time to travel. Also this challenge allows No randomized cycle durations

[leaden steeple]

oh?

where do i turn that on

just in remix?

found it

does visitor allow it?

[uncut flame]

No

[dark coyote]

also make sure to enable speedrun timer. It's also required

mostly for screenshot and short clip challenges but better to keep it on so you don't forget it later

[leaden steeple]

ty

[leaden steeple]

oh alright

hopefully i dont forget to turn off no random duration

[leaden steeple]

I THINK I MAY HAVE ACTUALLY DONE IT

im not 100% sure though

i didnt see any scavengers remaining

and the end screen shows me not killing any

but im not sure if i assisted every kill though

the file is around 600 mb

i can see how you guys can get so far in 1 cycle

again, the quality might be bad due to the compression

NVM IT DOESNT COUNT

THE SCAVENGER THAT WAS STUCK IN THE "FLY TRAP" TRIED TO THROW A SPEAR AT ME AND HIT ANOTHER SCAVENGER'S BOMB

even just the 1st part would disqualify it

[low berry]

I feel like loading the outskirts toll should count as bringing about their deaths

[leaden steeple]

wdym?

[low berry]

That toll self destructs as soon as the room is loaded
So going near the room should count as bringing about their deaths

[leaden steeple]

ive never seen it missing

idk if it should count since they werent even there

and its a cause of the game and not slugcat

[low berry]

I mean they'll kill themselves and each other within about 10 seconds of you being near them whether you do anything or not

[leaden steeple]

thats still not death caused by a slugcats actions

[low berry]

It won't die if you're half a region away, it's not loaded

[leaden steeple]

im so confused

[uncut flame]

What does this have to do with Manslaughter..?

[shrewd fractal]

having fun?

[leaden steeple]

yes and no

[shrewd fractal]

that's so real

[leaden steeple]

could anyone give me a hint what the cutscene with gourm and the spears mean

i tried crafting with spears but nothing happened

[low berry]

Gourm can't make espears it's just really misleading iirc

[leaden steeple]

what does that cutscene tell me then

or at least try to

[low berry]

.

[leaden steeple]

oh

silly devs >:(

[leaden steeple]

i wonder how many times i failed during this

[leaden steeple]

I really wanna try saint idk why

After gourm im gonna do spear and riv quickly

[dark coyote]

Did you decide to finish gourm first? I saw you hopping from cat to cat before

[leaden steeple]

Yeah

I was gonna do either gourm or arti 1st

And decided on gourm

Arti is too difficult

I may even finish saint before arti

[leaden steeple]

Oh you got fp helpers nice

Fluffy what challenges are you missing?

From vanilla

[low berry]

Uturn and Perseverance

[dark coyote]

Huh... you did no msc challenges?

[low berry]

i'm at 48/50 vanilla chals, 10/20 (finished one though) msc

[low berry]

till i was at those last 2

[dark coyote]

Oh nvm

A half

[low berry]

i'm going to get at least the next 7 done in MSC

then i have to decide which of the last 5 are easiest

[dark coyote]

Gladiator calls

[low berry]

[leaden steeple]

Gl with u turn

I watched the tiny clip of the movement used in it and it looks terrible

Im terrified

[dark coyote]

Ye lol... denboost isn't real

[low berry]

i can hit both of the main tricks, just without anywhere near enough consistency (and i screw up the 2nd half)

[leaden steeple]

Rip

[low berry]

(i have a 1:00.5 )

[leaden steeple]

Btw for perseverance is it required to go to Lttm

[low berry]

no

you just need to ascend

[leaden steeple]

Neat

Maybe i could try

[low berry]

don't do it as your first chal hardcore hunter is very hard

that's a good way to not want to do more chals after getting burned out on pers lol

[leaden steeple]

Yeah your right

Im struggling on visitor

So perseverance would be a nightmare

[dark coyote]

A few people did just for the sake of it

[leaden steeple]

Whyyyy

[low berry]

there are a few ways to do visitor that aren't just bringing 20 spears into that room

[dark coyote]

People do a lot of silly stuff for gamer credit

[leaden steeple]

Probably yeah

I just dont feel like leaving outskirts

[low berry]

[dark coyote]

[leaden steeple]

?

Do you guys have a few more tips for manslaughter?

They keep killing eachother or try to shoot me for no reason

[low berry]

So long as you do something first, they are allowed to start spearing each other

[leaden steeple]

Really?

[low berry]

If you walk in to them blowing themselves up that wouldn't be brought about by you, but if you lead a lizard over or drop a vulture on them and they blow themselves up fighting that, that's good enough

Just make sure you take out the reinforcements too

[leaden steeple]

What if they try to shoot me and kill eachother

Im guessing thats a fail

[leaden steeple]

How do i know when reinforcement comes

Did i kill them in my previous attempt?

[low berry]

Mmm
Kinda depends if they're being dumb as hell or if you're baiting them

[leaden steeple]

I walked past one stuck in a fly trap

[low berry]

If you hang around at the toll for like 30 seconds and there's 0 scavs you're good

[leaden steeple]

He tried to hit me but hit another scav bomb

[leaden steeple]

Heres the video

[dark coyote]

You are not allowed to make scavs angry at you. If they are that would mean a fail

[leaden steeple]

Only 1 got mad at me

Thats a fail?

Yeah the reinforcement was dead

[low berry]

Ah, yea

If they get mad at any point that's a loss

I recommend building up your rep first

Then you can't make them mad just by being close

[leaden steeple]

Damn

I dont even know how to build rep with scavengers

Or any shelter nearby so i can get up there faster

[low berry]

Have you just murdered your way through every time

[leaden steeple]

No

I used pearls

Its hard to kill then

Them

Wait visions actually sounds extremely easy

I could do that with monk so quickly

And that color is nice

Die, respawn, put flower in shelter, take the shelter, repeat

[low berry]

Flowers disappear if left in a shelter while hibernating

Visions is one of the easy speed chals

[leaden steeple]

Oh..

[low berry]

If you know where you're going, 9 + death flower is pretty easy

[leaden steeple]

Why are there so many different names

[low berry]

(Death flower is specifically the one that spawns after you die)

[leaden steeple]

I dont rrally know their spawn location due to how much hunter i played

[leaden steeple]

Oh alr

I only remember the one in IC

Lmao

[low berry]

Lo yea

Most speed chals you'll only really do after starting to use maps
You can do quite a lot of the others without fortunately

It's just when you have a very tight amount of time, you need a very well planned route

[leaden steeple]

I think a speec chal i could do is the stolen enlightenment

Speed

If it requires no random timers

And already open doors

Ill actually try it later if you tell me what exactly i need enabled

Feast sounds awfully hard

[low berry]

I can send the latest remix allowlist settings if I can refind them, hang on

[leaden steeple]

Alr

It cant be that hard to go from O - IC - SC - SL

[low berry]

Basically you must have red off, you can decide on green, and you shouldn't touch yellow or cyan unless it tells you you can

And make sure to turn on speedrun validation

[leaden steeple]

Ty

Yeah i did turn that on

You can see it in the other video

[low berry]

In depicable's case, you should have nrcd and dakr on

[leaden steeple]

Alr

I should screenshot my normal remix menu so its easy to revert

Im guessing ani could pin it in here

[dark coyote]

[leaden steeple]

Oh i wasnt talking about that but ty

Ill send the other one later

[dark coyote]

Drop another one so I can do that as well

[leaden steeple]

Cant rn

Not home

[dark coyote]

Ah ok

[low berry]

True, yea

Just make sure you know where you're going, especially in shaded and shoreline before yoy start

[leaden steeple]

I know the path in shoreline and shaded due to all my hunter runs

And as gourm im currently there and not having many issues

I should really get moving with gourm

Weight loss

May i have a hint to who rot is

The name is haunting me

[mystic seal]

uh

But I don't want to

[dark coyote]

You can figure it out yourself

Just give yourself some time and enjoy the game

[leaden steeple]

I usually assume rot with like

Mold

Or green

Is it the grinch?

(Green santa)

Idk lmao

Theres pretty much nothing else i can associate it with

my binding of isaac brain only shows dead things

Or green

[leaden steeple]

Alr

Fluffy do you want to watch my attempt at despicable in about a hour?

Or anyone else

[low berry]

It's midnight 😭

[leaden steeple]

Oh

[low berry]

If you end up doing some when I get up sure

[leaden steeple]

Wow 12 hour diffence

[leaden steeple]

Yeah i think i might be able to

If i already beat the chsllenge by then ill screenshare a different one of your choice

[low berry]

Good luck!

[leaden steeple]

Ty

[bitter bay]

silly animoso, there are more than 10 msc challenges now 🙄

[dark coyote]

Should be more than 50

[bitter bay]

nahh we gotta get that clean 50-30-30 vanilla-msc-watcher split

[dark coyote]

I dunno what to expect from watcher. The challenge material is unknown yet

[pastel plank]

endless possibilities

[leaden steeple]

@bitter bay do you mind pinning this?

[leaden steeple]

ty

[dark coyote]

I'm kinda used to challenge remix set didn't have to change it any time

[leaden steeple]

wow

the only ones im turning off is loading screen tips

just in case lmao

[leaden steeple]

is it easier or harder?

[dark coyote]

It is... convenient. Fair and balanced

[leaden steeple]

alright

also do i really need vanilla exploits on rn????

[dark coyote]

You don't have to if you don't need/want

[leaden steeple]

alr

btw whats considrered the starting cycle

when i hit new game?

or after tutorial

[dark coyote]

As you start new game

[leaden steeple]

alr

do i have to use alpha reds????

[dark coyote]

Nope. Anything under green is up to you

[leaden steeple]

oh alr

[dark coyote]

Not like you are going to meet any reds

[leaden steeple]

yeah fair enough

alr this should be good for the challenge

[dark coyote]

[leaden steeple]

i hate the wide screen glitch

:(

it looks so goofy

[dark coyote]

Wide world

[leaden steeple]

aw man i got caught by a spider

i got very far though

died in this room i believe

wait no

i went on a path ive never been to LMAO

overseer is a very reliable light source!!1!!111!1

[leaden steeple]

i died right before entering SL

its so hard to go through SC

i know the way... its just so dark

ill send the video just in case any of you have tips for time improvement

[dark coyote]

For shaded try staying in the upper part

Slide and pounce roll wherever you can

[leaden steeple]

upper part?

sure

did i go on the lower path?

im about to send the video

[dark coyote]

Judging from the screenshot... a middle path?

[leaden steeple]

oh thats the middle one? alr

i had to compress this so much

half of the entire video is just shaded-

[leaden steeple]

[leaden steeple]

are there any survivor voice channels?

[leaden steeple]

damn i just failed to this hole

very embarrasing

i wonder if i can somehow revive LTTM on my 1st playthrough

i mean.. it cant be that hard to just give her those same things right?

@mystic seal do you have any tips?

[mystic seal]

For what, exactly? The East Citadel Bridge?

[leaden steeple]

no, faster movement

[mystic seal]

ah

[leaden steeple]

i cant make it to LTTM in time

[mystic seal]

Do you know how to ||roll||

[leaden steeple]

yes

i do dash roll pounces

[mystic seal]

Do you know the strategies for ||optimal movement in crawl-spaces||?

[leaden steeple]

nope

i dont know if pressing space is faster than jumping

but on corners jumping is really fast

and falling is also fast

(except in FP)

[mystic seal]

Ah OK so you know that, good.

[leaden steeple]

i dont know if pressing space is faster than crawling without it*

(not on corners)

[mystic seal]

||It is not, the end lag makes it incredibly slow.||

[leaden steeple]

ty

do you have any other movement tips to be even faster?

[mystic seal]

uh

I am not a master of movement, myself... legends speak of something called "fast pole climbing" that I have yet to grasp.

[leaden steeple]

i think i know that one sort of.. i just havent actually attempted it

[mystic seal]

And I assume you know how to slide...

[leaden steeple]

jumping off a wall is faster and has no end lag

[leaden steeple]

yes

how else would i do the roll jumps

backflip would take too long

[mystic seal]

Not necessarily, if you can do it quickly and get speed from the roll to make up for it.

There are also ways to do roll jumps without backflipping

[leaden steeple]

yes.. i just said that

[mystic seal]

I see a method of improvement there.

*or sliding

[leaden steeple]

slide, jump, roll, jump

[leaden steeple]

multiple ways to slide????

huh

[mystic seal]

There are a lot of ways to do a roll, I mean.

[leaden steeple]

i once did a roll while climbing a wall

i heard you can also keep the momentum on a rope and do it there

very interesting

[mystic seal]

Including, with advantageous terrain and/or tight timing, ||doing a roll-pounce, landing in a roll, and then doing another roll-pounce||

[leaden steeple]

that needs to be done in a specific area

i dont recall many places in SC where i could use that

in outskirts there are a few

in industrial there are not any on the path im taking

and for SL its pretty obvious i cant do it

[mystic seal]

Sure, but there are a lot of places where you can do it.

[leaden steeple]

yeah

[mystic seal]

Technically, it's possible to cross the West bridge that way
With incredibly precise timing.

[leaden steeple]

i am not doing that

thats a silly and a danger

[mystic seal]

Yeah, I'm not brave enough for that either

As I said, I don't RWSC, I have no idea how tight the timing actually is on this challenge.

[uncut flame]

I made it on my first try with the rain just starting to rumble with going through SC

[leaden steeple]

i mean.. you can look at this and see

[uncut flame]

Very feasible and I dont do anything besides roll pounces and slides

Im in math class rn but I dont care about math so I can look lol

[leaden steeple]

idk what grade you are in but if you get stuck on any math i understand just ask me

[leaden steeple]

i should be able to do it then

just gotta find a simple and fast route in SC

thats my biggest run killer

[uncut flame]

I can see a couple improvements in the first 2 minutes

[mystic seal]

Ah, you didn't totally nail the cool tricks down the stairs in the dragon machine room in Outskirts

[mystic seal]

(same)

[uncut flame]

I can link my own run if you wanna watch cuz I do the same movement stuff you do lol

[leaden steeple]

dragon machine room??

[uncut flame]

Theres some small spaces where you can save time

[leaden steeple]

sure!

[uncut flame]

https://youtu.be/pIzc_YofSM4?si=IByVWp_B0Ne92pEo Here

[mystic seal]

Oh and you don't know about the hidden shortcut into interior of the dragon

Definitely some routing optimizations there.

[leaden steeple]

im so confused

[smoky rose]

dragon??

[uncut flame]

Ye theres probably lots of small areas where you can save some time that would help make it less tight of a run

[leaden steeple]

thats a very different monk

[mystic seal]

By the dragon I mean this

[leaden steeple]

Ohh i see it now

yeah i tried to roll pounce spam

but failed the 1st pounce lmao

[mystic seal]

Ideally, jump out of the pipe, land in a roll, chain it down to the floor.

[uncut flame]

I made a dms skin of one of my ocs lol
I like using them

[leaden steeple]

dms?

[uncut flame]

Dress my slugcat

[leaden steeple]

oh alr

[leaden steeple]

didnt even know you can roll out of pipes

only momentum keeping

[mystic seal]

Well, you can boost out of them.

[leaden steeple]

yea

[uncut flame]

Roll require a certain amount of height to start, except if chained from other movement like slides

[leaden steeple]

maybe i could make my oc there once im done with the game or just for rwsc

[smoky rose]

idk why but it feels so nice to do this movement sequence

[leaden steeple]

because its so cool!

[uncut flame]

Ye its nice
I just use paint 3d since I can do small 1px edits easy

[leaden steeple]

didnt they discontinue that

oh nvm its still there

[uncut flame]

Idk I still have it

[mystic seal]

But, also, there's the one cool trick to that room that saves a ton of time that you won't notice until a lizard uses it to jumpscare you. ||See how one of the little bump things on the underside of the dragon has a small crack in it?||

[uncut flame]

They have a whole guide you cna follow to make sure the pixels display correctly with movement

[mystic seal]

TBH sometimes I wish I could unlearn some movement and play the game slowly again

[leaden steeple]

?

[mystic seal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/508334973632118805/1053115706444623944/liz_nod.gif

[smoky rose]

there are so many neat movement things I've discovered already after trying doing ascension for a day
i don't even care if complete it or not I'm just glad i discover it by myself

[leaden steeple]

also

why is the eye located on the back of the head

[mystic seal]

uh

It's not a very good dragon

[mystic seal]

(One of these days I'll make a mod that nerfs all the cool movement tricks. Starting with Newtonian-physics-accurate throwboosting.)

[leaden steeple]

goodj ob

[mystic seal]

it's supposed to be animated

[leaden steeple]

i know i just located the eye back

so its outskirts accurate

[mystic seal]

ah

[smoky rose]

i remember trying to reach the wall gate from su in one cycle for hours
imagine how i felt when i saw the 4 karma symbol there

[mystic seal]

You also messed up the trick-jump at the end of the starter cave by grabbing the wrong pole, and you didn't try jumping directly into the pipe in the path to the upper shelter.

[leaden steeple]

wha

idont get it

[mystic seal]

And I wanna say you can wall-jump to reach the pole in the green lizard pit before that? Not sure.

[mystic seal]

at 1:15 in the video, the jump out of the starter cave

[leaden steeple]

this is the surface of the wall

you can only get up there with something like

[mystic seal]

You made the jump, but grabbed the tiny pole in the middle and lost time.

[leaden steeple]

momentum keeping ig?

oh yeah

i do that on accident all the time

i just keep holding up and im too used to it

[mystic seal]

And this is what I mean by the green lizard pit
I'm pretty sure you can wall jump that rather than climbing the pole, but don't quote me on that.

[leaden steeple]

yeah i could do that

maybe even get a spear... theres like no place to use one

except there

[mystic seal]

In order to get into this pipe, do a very complex maneuver involving standing directly underneath it and then pressing and holding up and jump.

[uncut flame]

It is walljumpable but I find it sorta difficult

I just use a spear there

[leaden steeple]

i never thought of that!! thank you

im very good at the game as you can tell

or i could use a downspear for help

[smoky rose]

you can get additional 10 style points for doing a backflip!

[mystic seal]

There's also no wall to kick off of here, that only works on actual corners.

[mystic seal]

Oh you are don't worry

[leaden steeple]

please make the screenshot bigger

[mystic seal]

(also the green lizard pit)

[leaden steeple]

woops

i tried to do it here

[mystic seal]

And I'm sure advanced pole-climbing techniques could save you a lot of time here if you do them correctly, but. ask someone else about that.

[uncut flame]

Tunnel boosts only gain momentum if theres a wall behind you for your feet to kick from

[leaden steeple]

jump, jump off, jump back on

[mystic seal]

Something about ||cancelling the momentum loss from the pole boost by jumping off but not really™️||

[uncut flame]

I just spam wall jumps lmao

[leaden steeple]

you can cancel the endlag by jumping off

[mystic seal]

Note! Pipes are walls for this purpose.

[leaden steeple]

Huh

i dont get it

[uncut flame]

You can boost out of pipes while in tunnels

[leaden steeple]

anyways does anyone wanna watch me retry this

[smoky rose]

not really jumping off
you just change the side

[leaden steeple]

with all this gained knowledge

[leaden steeple]

wall jumping is fast too

jump up on rope, wall jump and repeat

[mystic seal]

And I assume you have a route planned through Looks to the Moon's maze?

[leaden steeple]

thats supposed to be a maze?

[mystic seal]

the big room

[leaden steeple]

i know my LTTM path really well

[mystic seal]

[smoky rose]

I'd say that doing fast pole climb consistently is still faster
but inputs are harder

[leaden steeple]

you jump down, get on the platform, get in the pipe, go left by 1, go up, leap onto the cube

and then just cross the rope

[mystic seal]

Ah nice OK

[leaden steeple]

its really simple

[dark coyote]

what's up

[leaden steeple]

talking about despicable

[smoky rose]

it's that shrimple

[mystic seal]

Discussing movement tricks for ... what's the challenge called?

Despicable yeah.

[uncut flame]

Industrial Complex? I find it quite simple

[smoky rose]

idek the challenge description and I'm too lazy to look at the spreadsheet

[leaden steeple]

outskirts? but isnt that the interior

[leaden steeple]

from cycle 0 go with monk or survivor to LTTM and trigger the stolen enlightenment cutscene

[smoky rose]

in 1 cycle

[uncut flame]

Easy :p

[smoky rose]

don't you need to disable karma requirements to do that?

[uncut flame]

Yes

[smoky rose]

i should try doing that too

[leaden steeple]

and no randomized time

[smoky rose]

i tend to like challenges centered around movement more

[leaden steeple]

neat

i like this speedy thing ngl

[mystic seal]

U-Turn

[leaden steeple]

maybe i was wrong with my playstyle

i like going fast but not killing

going slow is alright but lacks the speed

which dlc character meets those things

[uncut flame]

Tell me how you feel about Circuit whenever you get yo that

[leaden steeple]

gonna check what that is rq

[smoky rose]

going fast but not killing? i think i know the exact scug you might like

[leaden steeple]

oh?

what is it

[mystic seal]

The Rivulet?

[smoky rose]

rivulet

[mystic seal]

I mean, you've seen 'em.

[leaden steeple]

o

maybe idk

[smoky rose]

although they're pretty good at combat

[leaden steeple]

ill play riv after gourm

any other characters?

[leaden steeple]

[mystic seal]

Well we can't tell you what the Saint does stat-wise

[leaden steeple]

yeah dont do that lol

[uncut flame]

You understand :)

I was like, 3 seconds off one time

[leaden steeple]

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A NIGHTMARE

IM SCARED

[uncut flame]

Never got close since

1 in every 50 attempts makes it out of the first 3 fucking rooms

[mystic seal]

... The lock is the key and ... and They're not real.

[leaden steeple]

THESE 2 ROOMS LOOK LIKE A RUN ENDER

[uncut flame]

The 1st ball room isnt too bad

Its the giant and smaller ball room that suck once your outaide the first few rooms of the run

[leaden steeple]

[smoky rose]

is there a challenge centered around 5p?
definitely not doing that

[uncut flame]

Pilgrimage :3

[leaden steeple]

Martyr

[mystic seal]

Is that the UD one?

[smoky rose]

i mean
you have to get to 5p
but you don't spend the whole challenge there

[leaden steeple]

yeah

[leaden steeple]

um

[uncut flame]

Hehe Im Martyr

It me

[mystic seal]

Oh you are

[leaden steeple]

enlightenment

[mystic seal]

I guess it's a good one for a blue color.

[leaden steeple]

enlightenment is one of those

may even be the only one?

[uncut flame]

Brb goin home from math class

[leaden steeple]

alr

anyone wannaw atch me attempt despicable

[smoky rose]

sure

[leaden steeple]

alr

misclicked ooőps

[dark coyote]

can't join the stream I won't ig

[smoky rose]

are you going through shaded?
i did not expect that

[dark coyote]

connection issues lol

[smoky rose]

that was so cool

[amber vapor]

Here’s a gif of it

[smoky rose]

one day I'll do it as good as this gif

[leaden steeple]

woah what

[leaden steeple]

Rip

i could try sharing again

[pastel plank]

clean fpc are so satisfying

[smoky rose]

is it better to go through shaded citadel or garbage wastes?

[pastel plank]

imo shaded

[uncut flame]

SC has less swimming

[pastel plank]

but you can experiment and see if it works out better for you

-# GW geometry is also trash (pun unintended)

[smoky rose]

if i go through gw I'll be on the opposite side of sl
unlike the sh route
but idk the route through sh from the ic gate at all

[leaden steeple]

rip

man scavengers suck

[pastel plank]

[smoky rose]

it'll be funny if i play as monk for the first time only because of a challenge

[low berry]

You still Despicableing?

[uncut flame]

Interesting route

[leaden steeple]

i was testing that other one out

i didnt know where it lead

[leaden steeple]

yes

[low berry]

K, I'll join in a bit

[leaden steeple]

alr

[low berry]

(has anyone told you how exactly to do FPC there?)
i saw a lot of general "this is how it works" but not just what the inputs are

[uncut flame]

Hehe dumb blue

[low berry]

hehe dumb blue 2.0

[uncut flame]

I like how the rain starts, then stops, then fuckin J9FHJABSFFHODSGBOBOS

[leaden steeple]

fpc?

whats fpc

[uncut flame]

fast pole climb

[leaden steeple]

oh

i mean... sorta

i know how it works and the inputs too but not how to execute the inputs

i did do it a few times correctly

[low berry]

so
jump, jump+left, jump, jump+right and repeaat?

[leaden steeple]

a few

[leaden steeple]

gonna try that rq

m,an this attempt was good

[low berry]

that's the inputs

lol

[leaden steeple]

i wont record yet so

ill just test those inputs

[low berry]

(if you start on the left side of the pole, it'll be jump+right first instead)

[leaden steeple]

if i just spam my space bar at the correct speed its pretty simple

[low berry]

if needed you can slow it down a little for better consistency

but pretty much yeah

[leaden steeple]

pretty neat!

[dark coyote]

I can watch now!

[leaden steeple]

sick

anyways great rng

im so good

man

this is not doing me much good lmao

i shouldnt spam this

[pastel plank]

the amazing throwing ability of monk

[low berry]

you really don't need to stop every time you see a scav, you're playing monk

nice turn storage

[pastel plank]

so close

[leaden steeple]

what

what does that have to do with monk though

[low berry]

monk starts with scavs being nicer to them

[leaden steeple]

that doesnt mean they will just let me through

:(

[low berry]

so you don't have to stop, wait for 30 seconds, then keep walking

~~i mean you don't really even as hunter they're pretty murderable if you surprise them ~~

[leaden steeple]

no spears or stones:

groups of scavs:

[woeful kraken]

we have never met you before but because you are yellow we’ll let you through

[low berry]

precisely

[leaden steeple]

lol

[pastel plank]

friend coloured

[leaden steeple]

what if i color myself even more yellow

[woeful kraken]

[leaden steeple]

banana isnt working

ill make it accurate to the main menu art

[pastel plank]

I'm gonna go eeper, good luck with the challs!

[low berry]

oh main movement thing foggy
stay in rolls for longer after slidepouncing into a roll
you pounce out instantly and then you're not at the higher roll speed (and get a shorter pounce from the roll)

[leaden steeple]

gn

[leaden steeple]

i dont understand

[low berry]

so you do a slide, pounce out of that, then land in a roll

[leaden steeple]

also i dont know how to save time in SC....

[low berry]

you should stay in the roll longer

[leaden steeple]

uh sure

[low berry]

before doing your 2nd pounce

lets you keep travelling at high speed longer

[leaden steeple]

you can chain them on flat ground??

[low berry]

if you stay in the roll for long enough, yea

[leaden steeple]

gotta try that

how long

[low berry]

till right before it ends
i don't have a good way to describe it, you kinda just have to know

[uncut flame]

You complete a roll twice before it forces you to end the roll and crouch

[leaden steeple]

whats the best place i can test it

[uncut flame]

At the end of the 2nd roll you pounce and chain it

You cna also listen to the audio

[woeful kraken]

no fun allowed

[leaden steeple]

how do i save more time in sc btw

did i do anything wrong?

[low berry]

don't stop every time you see a scav

[leaden steeple]

i didnt stop the last attempt

[uncut flame]

IC could be a lot faster

[low berry]

aside from that, it's mostly big things like falling a long way down in tall rooms

[leaden steeple]

i just went past them

[leaden steeple]

alr

[leaden steeple]

where??

how

[uncut flame]

The path your taking is very roundabout
Theres a much more straightforward path to the SC gate

[leaden steeple]

wait what

i think this is it?

its quite literally just a straight route

[uncut flame]

Yeah

[leaden steeple]

ig i just gotta try it

oops

at least i know how the path works now

[dark coyote]

aight! I shall go now. Good luck with your runs!

[leaden steeple]

bye

i think ill stop for now

my hands are getting tired from this

goodbye!

[low berry]

cya

[uncut flame]

Byeee

[leaden steeple]

did a lot of movement progress though

so thats nice

[uncut flame]

And secured more of your route too

[leaden steeple]

i should be survivor soon

[leaden steeple]

yes

how do i check my xp again? i forgot

[uncut flame]

I think !xp in #misc-pan-chat

Or level

One of the two

[leaden steeple]

its probably level

!xp did nothing other than embarras me

[uncut flame]

Its okay

[low berry]

[low berry]

i hit 37 just before, you've talked in first playthrough forums so much for lots of xp lol

[leaden steeple]

lol yes

this is the longest time i took without leveling up much

i was stuck in exterior as hunter

[woeful kraken]

i hate legs

[leaden steeple]

🦵 💥

[leaden steeple]

i had a dream where i was attempting despicable

[uncut flame]

lol

The rwsc grind

[leaden steeple]

true

anyways gourm time

despicable is haunting me...

lmao i should not try fpc with gourm

runs out of breath in like 3 hops

UM

WHY IS THERE A CYAN LIZARD

THIS IS GOURM

oh nvm hes just playing peek a boo

@dark coyote

oh there are also king vultures

JEEZ

I SEE WHY THE SLIDE IS SO LONG NOW

NOT ONLY FALLING KILLS

AND MOMENTUM KILLS

im in SI now :(

CC*

[dark coyote]

They are silly sometimes 🤏

[low berry]

cyan lizards are very silly

[leaden steeple]

True

[leaden steeple]

What challenge did u beat

[low berry]

none today
most recently samaritan, it got verified this morning

(an msc one lol)

[leaden steeple]

Oh cool

Goob job

[low berry]

thankyou!!

[leaden steeple]

youtube started recommending me riv content this time lmao

even got a confirmation for the mark name

Woops i accidentally soiled myself a little but its alright i would have never found out about that

i guess you can revive LTTM without the green neuron??? or im confused

how is gourmand so strong

i love it

i swear if i actually got this while i had msc on....

that would be sad

OH MY GOD I ACTUALLY DID IT BUT IN MSC

IM SO MAD

[low berry]

Nope

Nope

[low berry]

[leaden steeple]

[low berry]

I don't know why that sent twice

[leaden steeple]

discord

your probably on mobile rn

yeah you are

i went over the tile while it was coming back up- woops

i think i may have to eat a vulture for one of the food things

this is just a guess though

[low berry]

I mean now you know how to do it as hunter lol

[smoky rose]

i like how vulture just disappears

[leaden steeple]

cant i just do it as anything

yeh i can

hunter does spawn closer to SI though

[low berry]

Yea, hunter is just closest to gourm in number of vultures

[leaden steeple]

lol

its so easy to die as gourm to a lizard

i wanna try crushing a lizard for the 1st time

JEEZ

this is so op

UM WHAT

IS THAT A GOLDEN LIZARD

[dark coyote]

this isn't much harder on survivor and you can do it in no time

[leaden steeple]

you can do it on survivor?

i thought its gourm specific

oh mb wrong reply

[dark coyote]

Flytrap reply

[leaden steeple]

rahh

is that a red

it works simularly to a red

OH NO

HE GOT IN THE HSELTER

i almost killed it

[cloud flame]

like a red mixed with a green

Spits and leaps but i think hes too fat to climb anything

[leaden steeple]

so it cant climb ropes

alr

[cloud flame]

im not SURE

but i think so

[leaden steeple]

yeah it cant

its got so much hp

i wanna kill it just for fun

ow

[low berry]

The chonk is unstoppable

[leaden steeple]

true!

even the spears are op

[low berry]

You need a lot to counter exhaustion

[leaden steeple]

there is already a lot

its very balanced

you can barely jump on ropes 3 times

in big rooms you get exhausted from just running

GRAPPE WORMS

grapple

YEEEEEE

i just dont know if its a required food...

theres not much i can use it for so i might as well try

i still gotta eat a squid

oh i just noticed that after any spear throw i get tired

YEP grapple worm was required

LMAO

I DIED THEN AFTER RESPAWNING I WASTED MY SPEAR

THEN I KILLED A WHITE LIZ WITH A JUMP AND GRAPPLED BACK

ITS SO OP

its so sad i have to eat it

im gonna waste a survivor here because im just kinda lazy

i somehow have dragon slayer nearly complete

and this time the pattern isnt specified

[dark coyote]

msc change

[leaden steeple]

cool

man these king vultures

AAAAAA

king vultures are the worst

just had to survive a starve cycle as gourm

im definitely getting better though!

nearly at santa claus!

wtf so many of those

btw whats this one? i didnt see the name

[dark coyote]

martyr

[leaden steeple]

ty

is it a hard one to get

the wall is looking oddly different

ORANGE LIZARD??

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE

[smoky rose]

they are there in survivor's campaign too

[leaden steeple]

oh

then i just forgot lmao

bruh camping white liz

[smoky rose]

i bet the wall with cyan lizors would be hard as gourmand

[leaden steeple]

that would be terrifying

theres a lot of room to jump on them though

RAHHHH

HOPEFULLY THIS TIME THERES NO WHITE LIZES

im curious what santa is gonan say

maybe i should just wait for the rain again

HEEEELPPP

THERES A HUGE LINE OF ORANGES BEHIND ME

raaaaaa

does anyone wanna watch

yeah i think im jujst gonna wait for the rain

i should be good by just waiting here

[austere radish]

the nefarious cyan lizard:

[leaden steeple]

there wont be a cyan lizard

probably

[austere radish]

probably

[smoky rose]

probably

[leaden steeple]

just gonna wait here for the rain

i am NOT doing that i did as hunter

especiallyas gourm

HES SO FURIOUS

UMM WHY IS IT TURNING RED

WHY IS IT STEAMING

is it night time

this is all new to me

woah wtf

exterior has another entrance to somewhere

it requires a karma that shows 9 dots

wtf

why is it so dark...

im in fp now

SANTA IS SO MAD

AND APPERANTLY IM ROTUND

fat shaming... smh

ig this whole place is on lockdown now

thats a pole plant

idk what its supposed to mean though... maybe trying to teach me it doesnt only work with falling but sliding?

i had to compress this

HOLD UP

WANDERER HAS 14 THIS TIME

UHHHHH

umm

why cant i pounce

[leaden steeple]

[dark coyote]

gourm is a bit different from other cats so it messes up with your muscle memory

[leaden steeple]

i did a pounce the same way

but this time its not working

[dark coyote]

are you pressing up? You shouldn't

[leaden steeple]

maybe i pressed it on accident idk

[austere radish]

too heavy to get out of the ground properly

[mystic seal]

Shhh, let them figure it out

(old, I know, I just got here)

[austere radish]

hey 23848

[mystic seal]

hey

[leaden steeple]

hi

[leaden steeple]

[mystic seal]

Ah you got to the part where Santa fat-shames you

[leaden steeple]

yes

im too rotund apperantly :(

[austere radish]

five jolly presents

[leaden steeple]

Hohoho

i recognise this entrance

and while i was doing despicable i noticed the fruits have the 4th karma icon

[mystic seal]

What does that mean

[smoky rose]

huh

[mystic seal]

Also did you remember to go back to your old Remix settings?

[leaden steeple]

yes ofc

[leaden steeple]

the overseer when pointing to a fruit

shows the 4th karma icon

[mystic seal]

Just making sure. I saw someone once who did like an entire campaign with karma requirements off by accident

[leaden steeple]

no

[mystic seal]

Ah

[leaden steeple]

i wasted survivor in CC just so i can save time

i didnt wanna farm for 4th karma

and i actually know how echoes work

when you have survivor or higher, it can spawn anywhere

and exterior and sub have a guaranteed one

[leaden steeple]

should i waste a dragon slayer and tp to outskirts

"you will find the gate to the world outside of it unlocked"

wait i cant even tp to outskirts i forgot lmao

i can tp to industrial though

should i do that?

theres no reason for me to go to farm arrays or sky islands

[leaden steeple]

idk why so many people have an emoji in their names soooo

[smoky rose]

there could be a reason for you to not use passages
did you eat all the different types of food? the ones that are shown above your food pips

[leaden steeple]

oh right ty

i should do that

[dark coyote]

what's the progress on that one rn?

[uncut flame]

The most common accidental challenge

[leaden steeple]

it currently wants me to eat a squid

heres an image of it

there are 11 of those things

so hopefully 11 is the max?

i dont have my hopes up due to how squished that is

[dark coyote]

[mystic seal]

Some stort of in-joke in parts of the server I don't frequent

[dark coyote]

ping randi for clarification

[leaden steeple]

alr

i guess i gotta go to SI

maybe i even need to eat a snail or the creature that just runs around with a lot of food

or a leviathan but probably not

[dark coyote]

try everything

[leaden steeple]

alr

[mystic seal]

IIRC killing one of those ||is a server challenge||

[leaden steeple]

i havent eaten a baby centipede-

[leaden steeple]

yeah i saw it

was it sacrifice? or spear fishing?

[mystic seal]

<@&1178051674594607194>

[leaden steeple]

or is sacrifice the one where you bring a green or purple mouse to leviathan

and feed it

[dark coyote]

<@&1121561261734363208>

[leaden steeple]

albino leviathan*

oh right its offering

tbh the main issue of offering isnt even the mice

ITS THE FACT THAT THE ALBINO DOESNT HAVE A PROPER AI >:(

you could bring it there and then nothing happens because it cant do anything

yaeh i totally need to get one of those

i have to go to farm arrays anyway

i still cant do a pounce

oh nvm

[mystic seal]

Doesn't have a proper AI?

[leaden steeple]

because it cant move to another room, the ai just stops working