Game keeps freezing my entire computer (Linux)

[graceful trench]

I don't have logs bc the entire computer freezes
Randomly, anywhere between 30 minutes and 2 seconds after opening the game it completely freezes, both in gameplay and in the menu.
Platform is Linux mint with proton experimental, the freezes started after a few hours of playing with mods, worsened every play session, and they persist after all of the mods were disabled.
Already tried verifying file integrity, that didn't help.

[oblique fiber]

I'd say it might be a drivers-related problem. Do you know what gpu is on your pc ? Which linux distribution are you using ?

[graceful trench]

Linux mint
I'm gonna have to check what gpu my laptop's got

[oblique fiber]

Alright :p

You could also try to open rainworld.exe using wine, to see if it's a proton issue ?

[graceful trench]

Sorry, I died briefly for the holidays
I'm back, gonna try wine

Wine works but the game doesn't remember my save data when I launch it thru wine

ok I found the save folder, gonna try to port my saves over to wine

Seems like it works, but the performance isn't as good as it was with proton. I'll try using a different proton version

btw is there any way to use a folder with a space in the name using wine? Console counted a " " as a separation between arguments and gives an error. I had to go around it by renaming the Rain World folder to Rain_World

[graceful trench]

Different proton version didn't work, gonna continue with wine

[oblique fiber]

Put the whole path in between "", or put an antislash \ before the space

Per chance, would updates be available for your system (and more specifically GPU drivers ?)

[graceful trench]

Let me check

[graceful trench]

Also wine breaks mods because I fixed them with steam launch options on my end

[oblique fiber]

The fix is the same for wine, add THING=value before the wine command and you'll be good

[graceful trench]

WINEDLLOVERRIDES="winhttp=n,b" %command% wine /path/
or
WINEDLLOVERRIDES="winhttp=n,b" wine /path/
?

[oblique fiber]

no°2

BTW you could also try running the proton executable from terminal. Maybe it will produce interesting output after the crash

Let me find the command

[graceful trench]

thing is when it crashes the whole PC freezes, unless the terminal output saves as a log file somewhere while the computer is frozen it won't help

[oblique fiber]

Awh. True. You ever heard about journalctl ? We might find some interesting stuff inside

Maybe it has logged stuff related to the crash

[graceful trench]

That worked

[graceful trench]

I've never heard of journalctl

[oblique fiber]

It's the system logging utility; in a terminal, run journalctl -b -1 (this will show logs recorded between previous boot and previous shutdown (boot id 0 would be the live logs for current boot, -1 is before, etc))
And then scroll to the end of the logs (there might be a shortcut to scroll to end. You could try pressing h for help while looking at the logs. On my machine it's g to scroll to start and shift g to end (or Ctrl g, don't remember))
Then read a bit (you might need to use keyboard arrow keys to scroll instead of mouse) and see if you see any alarming words, or things related to proton that could help you figuring out what happened

There might be a graphical utility on Mint to view the journalctl idk

Search for logs or journal in your app launcher

[oblique fiber]

Also note that it is possible that nothing was logged because the error was too big or sudden or whatever

[oblique fiber]

Also you can probably export the journalctl logs to a txt. Might be easier to navigate. Run journalctl -b -1 > previous_crash.txt to save it as that file

Imma go to sleep but feel free to leave messages

[graceful trench]

There are updates available, but nothing regarding GPU drivers it seems. Also I had updated after the freezes began

Rain world opened thru wine doesn't respond to keyboard inputs

[graceful trench]

Where does it save that?

It's just

Dec 30 03:10:57 ruby-GL62-6QD kernel: pcieport 0000:00:1c.0: AER: Corrected error message received from 0000:00:1c.0
Dec 30 03:10:57 ruby-GL62-6QD kernel: pcieport 0000:00:1c.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)
Dec 30 03:10:57 ruby-GL62-6QD kernel: pcieport 0000:00:1c.0: device [8086:a110] error status/mask=00000001/00002000
Dec 30 03:10:57 ruby-GL62-6QD kernel: pcieport 0000:00:1c.0: [ 0] RxErr

Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again after I opened Rain World for like a thousand lines with a few things inbetween

Huh, weird

it looks like from the log file that those lines began before I opened rw

No, that message is unrelated to the crash, I'm looking at the current log and it has the same repeating mantra

The actual crash message is hidden between the lines

[oblique fiber]

Oh ye. I think if you alt tab from it and come back it does that ? Might not be that

[oblique fiber]

In the current working directory

[oblique fiber]

You found it

[oblique fiber]

Hey have you tried Ctrl+alt+FN keys while frozen ?

[oblique fiber]

I've taken a look at it but can't find interesting stuff

Could you run sudo lspci -vnn | grep 8086:a110 so that we know what device is generating the AER errors ?

[oblique fiber]

Was there a time when the game just worked ?

I have two other ideas for you to try :

Add this parameter to rain world launch inside steam: PROTON_LOG=1 winedll....=... %command%
It might create a log file inside your /home/username named steam-(numbers).log which we could maybe analyse

Install steam using the .deb (your current steam is installed through flatpak). This might be a big task and idk the details about whether game data will be preserved or not

[graceful trench]

yeah idk proton didn't do that

[graceful trench]

Yes, for like the first 24 hours of playtime, then it started the freezes

[graceful trench]

00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #1 [8086:a110] (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #4 [8086:a113] (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
00:1d.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #9 [8086:a118] (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

[graceful trench]

No

[graceful trench]

Yeah, it does that after I alttab

[graceful trench]

Added the launch parameter, gonna start RW now

[graceful trench]

In addition, they got more frequent as time went on, first it was like one freeze after an entire irl day, now the longest it can go for is a whole cycle if I get lucky, and the shortest it can go for is freezing before the menu buttons load in

ok weird unrelated bug, for some reason Moon music is playing outside her chamber. It stopped though

[oblique fiber]

well ok whatever :p as long as these errors are "Corrected" it should not be the issue

[oblique fiber]

yeah idk how to fix dat sorry

[oblique fiber]

well I really don't like how that sounds lol. I hope it's not a hardware issue. You could try installing a separate lil linux mint system on your pc (or on an external disk) and then install steam and rw the same way you did for your current system. If you get the same crashes, try to install steam via the .deb instead of from flatpak. If you still get crashes, try the same with an ubuntu. if it still crashes, either you are really unlucky, or there's a bigger issue

per chance, do you have a command named prime-run inside your terminal ?

if so, try running prime-run wine rw.exe. It should put the game on your nvidia gpu which would make the fame run faster (you can add your winedlloverrides too)

[oblique fiber]

then next time it freezes try to ctrl+alt+f2, 3, 4 or whatever. It might switch you to a tty (a terminal of some kind) (if the system isn't fully borked at that point) (you can also try that before it getting borked. One of the FN buttons will bring you back to your graphical session)

(also if you have a led on your caps lock try to switch it on/off, it would also give a good indication of how borked it is)

btw could you give the output of inxi -G ? (gives graphics info)

[graceful trench]

  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM107M [GeForce GTX 950M] driver: nvidia v: 535.183.01
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa gpu: i915
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 530 (SKL GT2)
    v: 4.6 Mesa 23.2.1-1ubuntu3.1~22.04.3```

The Issue is being kind so far, I've gone three half-cycles without freezing

Come on, now that I want it to freeze, it doesn't

At least I've encountered my first ever precycle

[oblique fiber]

nice :p you got a thread on #1269808032276152451 or #1272670046434492426 ?

[graceful trench]

Nah,
I spoiled the entire game and the movement tech so while it is technically my first playthrough I play as if I've done this before. Spoiled it twice actually, I've first seen a full playthrough of the game way way back before Downpour, and then I forgot about the game and then spoiled it again.
And I am sad about the fact I've spoiled the game for myself.

[graceful trench]

It just froze after I drowned three times in Drainage

Finally

where's that proton log supposed to be again?

[graceful trench]

Yeah nah I don't see the file

[oblique fiber]

well yeah idk what you should do. TO me it sounds like either a driver issue, or a hardware issue

[oblique fiber]

I'd advise to try and see this ^ if you have the time

maybe we could also try to run proton from terminal instead of from steam but I doubt it will change anything

[graceful trench]

unrelated I've finished my pearl collection

[oblique fiber]

congrats !!

I had done this before I enabled msc so it didn't count

[graceful trench]

Game complete
Even though the bug isn't fixed yet

It froze right after I quit to menu lmao what timing

[graceful trench]

oh god the freezes are spreading to other games now

Team Fortress 2 now gets the same freeze

I think it might be a steam issue that only affects the latest installed games

Rain World was my latest installed game until I reinstalled TF2 and now they both freeze

Fuck it, I'm reinstalling Steam

[oblique fiber]

nice score

[oblique fiber]

you could try reinstalling steam using the .deb distributed by valve !

you could also try to use the proton binaries standalone-ly

or using https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom

(which is kind of a copy of steam proton

[graceful trench]

I reinstalled steam and tf2 freezes
gonna install that custom proton and see if Rain World does

[graceful trench]

How do I install that?

[oblique fiber]

No idea tbh xD

https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom?tab=readme-ov-file#installation install guide from readme

[graceful trench]

found

[oblique fiber]

Okok

And then you have the flatpak steam so https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom?tab=readme-ov-file#flatpak

[graceful trench]

It still freezes @oblique fiber

[oblique fiber]

well that sucks :p

is there anything under ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton* ?

(run ls -l "~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton*")

[graceful trench]

no such file or directory

there is no proton folder there

[oblique fiber]

I kind of expected it because of the whole flatpak thingie

[graceful trench]

Good news: game hasn't frozen in a while now
Bad news: I'm stuck in the CC - Wall karma gate

It's been going like htat for like 2 minutes now

And it crashed after I exited

shame, I got the vulture mask on that cycle, and I killed 2 of the birds

[oblique fiber]

Surely the crash has been logged somewhere (if you haven't restarted the game since !)

;exceptionlog

[neon hazel]

The exception log contains details about where in the code the exception occurred, useful to debug an error. It may be found in the game's root folder, along with the executable. Launching the game clears the file; if you have done so after getting the exception, you will need to trigger the error again to regenerate the log. If, even after doing so, the exception log doesn't exist, it's useful to provide this.

Default Steam path on Windows:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World
In Steam, you may open the game's folder with Right Click -> Properties -> Installed Files -> Browse..

To send the file, drag and drop it into the Discord window. Do not copy and paste the contents of the file.

The file provides the function which threw the exception in the code, as well as all of its ancestors down to the main. If the exception is generated by a mod or combination, typically they will be near the top, marked as modifying the recently-called functions. Disabling them may fix the issue.

[oblique fiber]

(Ask if you need help finding that path

[graceful trench]

Videogame's freezing again

Could these be memory leaks or is this not how memory leaks look, where the game freezes the entire computer

@oblique fiber

[graceful trench]

idk if it's the thing but I found this in the rain world folder

[oblique fiber]

yep that's one of them files but nothing relevant here

whole system freezing seems like a serious issue and I'd say it's related to your nvidia gpu

is there a led on one of your keyboard keys ? (is it a pc with integrated keyboard ?)

(like on the capt lock key

if yes does the led change when you press the caps lock when your system is frozen

[graceful trench]

well, I use an external keyboard, but I guess that's something I could try

[oblique fiber]

Yuh maybe. Idk if it's possible for the keyboard to manage the caps lock status itself ? I think not so it should be fine

You could also try to use steam (but not from flatpak)

You could also try to install another Linux mint on a lil side partition, to see if the same problem occurs

[graceful trench]

I am just so tired

Anyways how do I give myself karma with dev tools? Rain world owes me for all the fuckin crashes, they decrease karma even in the grace period

Ok I don't see the caps lock indicator on the laptop itself but the external keyboard updates when I press the caplock key on the laptop, I'm gonna see if it does the same when the laptop is frozen from the crash

[graceful trench]

Caps lock doesn't update when the system is frozen

The music is playing, the mouse cursor is moving, but the caps lock ain't lockin

[oblique fiber]

well I had the same behavior when my nvidia graphics card driver was badly configured/not the right version/...