First playthrough shenanigans (no soilers please) (all scugs complete)

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i did it in one sitting

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That's all I'm legally allowed to say I think

If I speak I am in big trouble

[wind star]

yeah someone is monitoring us rn

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the most i remember is an echo giving me more karma things

[wind star]

if we soil then we get

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it even had the same kind of pattern the gift has

[halcyon ice]

🙂

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O turns to I

oh you are being monitored

we are*

[minor maple]

Boo

[frigid karma]

AHHH

Scary...

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this is actually the best i got

[wind star]

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well, shit

i guess this playthrough is dead then

[wind star]

you still havr a chance

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unless i somehow get to an echo

with 3 cycles not much

[wind star]

it’s really doable

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2 actually because this cycle is dead

well yes i know it is 😭

[wind star]

you’ll know what to do next tine though

if you don’t make it

[frigid karma]

You're still at cycle 3 if you die here

Cycles only progress when you sleep

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oh right

i guess time to die

i hope theres an echo inside subterranean

because i really doubt i can get the farm arrays one due to the scav and deer rng combined

[wind star]

you can do it !!!

monkcheer or something but i can’t use it

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my screen is moving weirdly wth

[wind star]

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and the music stopped

AW MAN

it was like i was actually going somewhere :(

D:

PAINN

[wind star]

goodness this post has 5 thousand messages

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wait what

it had like 3.5k yesterday

im losing hope in this run

[wind star]

no

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thats a red caterpillar?? wth

[sour granite]

the red ones are more friendly you should hug it

[wind star]

yeah

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it wasnt near me so no

[wind star]

i didn’t know those existed in hunter

[sour granite]

that was close

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wtf

this looks ominous

this is a really strange area

wtf IS THIS PLACE

the music is so weird

[wind star]

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UM

WHY IS THAT THING HERE

ALL THE WAY FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE DEPTHS

[wind star]

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it does not look friendly this time though

i dont think that path is gonna lead me anywhere

it quite literally just looked like this

just 1000x smaller

[bronze oxide]

oh i see you got to

confused noises

[wind star]

what

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@sour granite im gonna leave now im getting really tired and exhausted from hunter

[queen vessel]

Ohhhh you’re at uhhh. I think ik what you’re referring to

[tawdry bolt]

Hi Larry!

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larry?

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the very right side of sub

and still going

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umm what was the condition for outlaw

i just noticed i got it as hunter

[bold yew]

outlaw is basically lots of murder

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oh alright

[tawdry bolt]

basically
kill everything

[green finch]

Violence

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murder

[green finch]

You got really far I see

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Sorta

Would be doing better if i didnt try to get to max karma

[wind star]

if you stream tomorrow i’ll probably be able to watch

tomorrow as in like

in ~10 hours or more

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By then i would be dead most likely

Hunter would be*

Actually maybe noy

Not

Im slowly getting closer to survior level

Just a quick question

Is there an echo is sub

No reason in particular

[green finch]

Do you want a direct answer?

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yes

[green finch]

Yes

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YES

now time to find it once im home

And hopefully its close to where im at.... if its somewhere all the way on the right im fucked

[green finch]

[sour granite]

[undone badge]

Fuck

About how far in is the part with the shoreline enemies

Thats the farthest i got

There was a part with miros birds, shoreline enemies

I hope there are no fp enemies

Specifically long legs

[frigid karma]

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I wonder how santa knew i had that green thing

[tawdry bolt]

he's super smort

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hmm alright

And i just realised im pretty much guaranteed to win

If i just get to the echo i get the final karma and can go down

And after that i can begin msc alongside vanilla

Im mainly interested in the story of the game

[green finch]

There's a perfect challenge to help with that

[undone badge]

Wait what

With what

Story?

[green finch]

With the story but mostly lore (which is important for story)

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Lore and story*

My bad

[green finch]

But that's about something you didn't discover yet iirc

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I wonder what it is

Dangit

[green finch]

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What area is that thing in? It wont reveal me much

Just in case ive seen it

[frigid karma]

Do you remember the sub echo location

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ive never seen the sub echo yet

so no

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time to struggle getting to the very right side of sub

hold up

cant you just find 4 echoes as hunter then go to the end technically

oh god thats a red caterpillar right next to me

time to hug it like all of you told me

[green finch]

Caterpillar

[undone badge]

thats some intense shock

pain

[green finch]

Which way did you go into sub btw?

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straight down

in the middle

[green finch]

[green finch]

Dam

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this is so painful

[bronze oxide]

they love you

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theres so many miros birds, scavs, lizards, centipedes

haha

AAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAA

ani.. how do i do this

this area is so painful

[green finch]

tbh... this area is horrible. I do die here myself a lot even now

[undone badge]

im in ampitheater

if you wanna join

terrible creatures

[green finch]

true 💀

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i wanna see that cyan lizard die

[green finch]

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NVM

[green finch]

regret

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i think i see an unlock

shrooms

[green finch]

damn.... if only there was a challenge which required to unlock everything

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IM SCARED

ty for helping random scavenger

around this is where i saw that giant thing

RAHHHH

[green finch]

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i want to see every lizard burn

or freeze

or die

[tawdry bolt]

where even is this
I've never seen this part of Subterranean

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rip

STUPID SCAVS

[tawdry bolt]

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:(

[tawdry bolt]

stupid creatures

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yes

[tawdry bolt]

he flew

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rahhhh

no way ia ctually killed one

[tawdry bolt]

now there's a very familiar room

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RAHHHH

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interesting

bye cyan liz

[tawdry bolt]

did you get to sub through farm arrays? that's probably why it's so unfamiliar to me
i always got to sub through a different gate

[undone badge]

yes i got to it from FA

rahhhh

i thought that one was dead

no thoughts, head empty

[tawdry bolt]

me too lol

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fear

[tawdry bolt]

sub is so painful

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ARMOR?????

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yes

scavs...

dangit

[tawdry bolt]

maybe there's a different route?

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i guess????

ani did ask me which direction i entered from

[green finch]

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[green finch]

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STUPI

SCAB

SCAV

.

I COULD HAVE JUST SKIPPED THAT LMAO

[tawdry bolt]

dw about the kelp, it just wants to pet you

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kelp?

nah its red karpet thing

carpet

um

[tawdry bolt]

oh
the centipede

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no

this is the furthest ive made it on that path

[tawdry bolt]

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oh hold on its loading

[green finch]

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new challenge: survive this

[green finch]

unironically there's one like that

[undone badge]

WHAT

i think they saw me

just a guess

[tawdry bolt]

goddamit pebbles

[green finch]

do you recall a place in pebbles with a lot of these?

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yes

[green finch]

you have to travel back and forth though it as monk

in a single cycle

<@&904855352451956746>

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"in a single cycle"

at least you can take your time

also the game lagged so much it made my game resolution increase

its so wide

there we go

[green finch]

this is the one you can do actually

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im curious about the msc icons

well.. yes

i could do it

i even have a tp as monk i think

[green finch]

no remix

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im only turning it on to to see the scug icons out of curiosity

[green finch]

[undone badge]

a lot of stuff to loa

load

how do i turn a mod off

[green finch]

click on ✅

then apply

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ty

[green finch]

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those are some cool icons

[green finch]

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im safe to start now right?

[green finch]

yeah

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this place haunts me

[green finch]

👻

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i wonder why monk specifically

what shelter do i need to be at

i hope i get lucky

..did survivor always look like that or i just forgot entirely

oh i can just select any one of them???

ani which shelter do i gotta go to

totally this one

actually before i try im extremely curious about something

oops

CUTSCENE TIME???

oh nvm for some reason this one just got delayed

[green finch]

there's a reason for that 🤏

the shelter closest to lower entrance

also you'd have to record it so you can submit

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uh

which

[green finch]

this one

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this?

[green finch]

yuh

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how do i select it

[green finch]

pick up?

yuh

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ty

well now what

i need a practice run 1st

wait actually i do remember 1 difference

as survivor the placements of the daddy long legs were different

than monk

[green finch]

you travel though the whole of UD to a room with no blue things

and then back to this shelter again

[undone badge]

UD?

do you mind guiding me through rq

[green finch]

just go forward for now

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now?

[green finch]

here to the right

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does it matter where i go here

[green finch]

the location is pretty much linear until some point

just keep moving

damn... sloggers!

[undone badge]

this room does look dfiferent than survivor agfain

grrr

oh btw from when do i gotta record

[green finch]

from loading screen. You must have speedrun validation and remix enabled with some mandatory options

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oh

umm

i forgot how terrible this place is

[green finch]

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and as surv i went through it

IF I HAD THOSE THINGS TURNED ON AND WENT TO THE SHELTER

I COULD HAVE HAD IT LM,AO

[green finch]

wdym? You had a long path to go yet

[undone badge]

i had?

how long

im kinda lost on the path at this point

where am i gonna have to go from here

[minor maple]

Doing Martyr?
Nice

[green finch]

martyr person spotted

[minor maple]

:3c

Its a nice blue color

[green finch]

tru

[undone badge]

i like blu

but i want a nice pastel orange

[green finch]

<@&821078631425769503> ...

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or purple

[minor maple]

I am the Resident Martyr

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thats cyan

i dont like cyan

[green finch]

light blu 🤏

[undone badge]

martyr is light blu

sorta

(its not)

[minor maple]

Purple color

(That One™️)

[green finch]

martyr is the bluest color you can have

(yet)

[undone badge]

im gonna send every color fromt he challenges i like

and you tell me the easiest one

[minor maple]

It matches my oc color nicely and I also just like blue

[undone badge]

i have multiple ocs

[minor maple]

My main oc is white and blue colored
If I dont get pure white I get the closest blue I can match

[wind star]

i overslept

[green finch]

<@&1158641027746365490>

[minor maple]

Im still doing the vanilla challenges I wanna/think I can do

[green finch]

I know the one you didn't do yet

[minor maple]

Is it Circuit because Im giving up on that shit

Ill do Pilgrimage later! At some point!!

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i like all these colors except the ones i crossed out / ascended

[wind star]

you ascended ascension\

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no ascension is just crossed out

pilgrimage was ascended

[minor maple]

Intruiging

[green finch]

<@&1121561237826838600> is the easiest

[wind star]

these are probably my two favorites

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aqua enjoyer

[green finch]

but it involves some stupid thing which is like.... not a spoiler but it's a silly interaction

[undone badge]

at that rate you can just keep artist

[wind star]

yeah

i don't actually write anything i just selected every role because i wanted to see all of the channels

[undone badge]

i think my least favourite color is extremely obvious

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lol

i do draw but i didnt select the role

[green finch]

you'll see the channels regardless

[wind star]

oh

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and yeah

[green finch]

the one which does make a difference is <@&696124129098727494>

[wind star]

no more writers role

[green finch]

it shows some archived channels like yearly galleries and such

[undone badge]

gonna leave the vc because we arent doing much in there

[green finch]

lol aight

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neat

[green finch]

they are full of soilers

[undone badge]

have i done the interaction

[undone badge]

burn it down

[green finch]

nuh

[undone badge]

have i used the items involved

all of them

[wind star]

you are probably not getting that interaction on accident

[undone badge]

imagine i did but never noticed

[minor maple]

Iant Flytrap most commonly done on accident lol

[undone badge]

what are the items involved

[green finch]

you did at this point

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[green finch]

this is mostly about the interaction

[wind star]

you definitely would have noticed i think

[green finch]

ye lol

[undone badge]

what if it happened so fast i didnt screenshot it

snipping tool isnt fast

[minor maple]

Its a clip, not really screenshotable

[green finch]

then it didn't happen

[undone badge]

wow

what are the items though

[green finch]

direct answer?

[undone badge]

yeah i dont mind for this

[wind star]

[undone badge]

i mainly care about the story and not interactions at this point

[minor maple]

There are no items :)

[undone badge]

ok yeah then i doubt ive donei t

if its all enemies / objects

[green finch]

you know all the items/creatures you need to

that's just about the interaction

if I say that would be a giveway probably

[undone badge]

theres so many creatures in the game

how am i ever gonna find it

[sour granite]

my favourite colour is between matricide and usurper

[green finch]

some people DO it by accident

[sour granite]

i just change colours lots

[undone badge]

purple fan

[green finch]

if you want to know one creature: ||that would be a vulture||

[sour granite]

the other one you could theoretically work out from the name of the challenge

[undone badge]

i wont click that yet

[wind star]

i'm pretty sure i got tasty once (this shouldn't be a soiler right)

[undone badge]

do you mind giving me vague characteristics

[green finch]

<@&1121561237826838600> something about that name

[sour granite]

the name is pretty representative of what you need to do, ye

[green finch]

vague enough

[undone badge]

well if i dont know what tasty is its not

its such a vague word i would forget it

[undone badge]

"fly trap"

batfly trap? fly trap? or mosquito trap

either way most of those enemies are in SI/FA

besides batfly

that one is everywhere

WAIT A MINUTE

i clicked on the soiler tag

I THINK I HAVE ACTUALLY DONE THAT ON ACCIDENT LMAO

[green finch]

[sour granite]

(it happens very frequently as hunter XD)

[undone badge]

in vc a vulture flew into the "fly trap"

then i killed it

[wind star]

what is the fly trap thou

gh

[undone badge]

red black orb

with flies in it

that stun

[wind star]

[green finch]

oh IC

this is not the one

[undone badge]

oh

well theres not many "traps" i can think of

[minor maple]

Think about the name again

"Flytrap"

[undone badge]

um

<@&1121561237826838600>

[minor maple]

Anything you can think of that would fit the name?

[undone badge]

has a red/orange color

um

the orb with the flies that stun

it is a trap

but then again that is not it

[minor maple]

Not sure what I can say that doesnt give it away too much

[undone badge]

theres also the mosquitoes

but does that qualify as a fly?

[minor maple]

Does this give it away too much? ||Think of an irl creature that counts as a "flytrap"||

[green finch]

that's where the name comes out originally

[minor maple]

xd

a

[green finch]

could be a good hint... I dunno how to be more vague

[minor maple]

Yeaa

lol

[undone badge]

a flytrap is

a plant that eats flies

with acids and such

and a "mouth"

worm grass?

[green finch]

you are thinking the right way

[undone badge]

that means im still not correct then

red carpet thing

impostor rope

[sour granite]

@spare delta the list grows

[green finch]

what makes you think of these two?

what exact interaction?

[undone badge]

vulture flies into the worm grass

and dies

[queen vessel]

That definitely is a “fly trap” I guess

[green finch]

[undone badge]

😔

idk then

whats the 2nd easiest one

[minor maple]

I know the 2nd easiest is Visitor
But of your selection uhhhhh idk

[undone badge]

[wind star]

[green finch]

tasty

[minor maple]

Thats the one with the thing and the thing right

[undone badge]

am i able to do tasty tho

[wind star]

no it’s actually the one where you do that one thing then the thing

[undone badge]

soilers gobbler

:(

[wind star]

[sour granite]

you can do nearly any vanilla chal now, there's just a few hunter ones that you haven't quite done the requirements for naturally yet iirc

[undone badge]

oh wow

[wind star]

5500 messages
5501 now

[spare delta]

For the thin ones that camouflage?

[undone badge]

yeah

the one that looks like a rope

does anyone have a tip to get to the sub echo

[frigid karma]

do you know where it is?

[undone badge]

very right side

i think

[frigid karma]

where specifically

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i dont know specifically

i just know its in the very right side of sub

[frigid karma]

My hint is that if I say where it is you'll hate me

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give a subtle hint

pls

[frigid karma]

🪨 🫷⛰️ 🏋️

[undone badge]

NO

NOOOOO

NOT GRAVEL, MOUNTAINS ABOUND

IT CANT BE RIGHT?

[frigid karma]

idk what you're thinking rn

[undone badge]

Six grains of gravel, mountains abound

[frigid karma]

Six grain isn't the Sub echo

[undone badge]

i was worried

the rock and mountain part scared me

rock, push, mountain, lift

WHat

is it underground?

[frigid karma]

i'm more referencing a meme

[undone badge]

oh

sisyphus

[sour granite]

XD

that is funny

[frigid karma]

AM I WRONG

[sour granite]

you are not wrong

at all

tbf this entire game is sisyphus meme

[undone badge]

ok so theres a mountain involved

and apperantly its painful

and takes forever

[undone badge]

the cycle must continue

i still dont get where that echo could be though

[sour granite]

foggy can you pick a chal role (there's only 13 i can't get)

[undone badge]

uh

sure?

[sour granite]

thank you

[frigid karma]

Perseverance

[undone badge]

ill pick one that suits your pfp i guess

[sour granite]

killing you

[frigid karma]

[undone badge]

desparado

[sour granite]

thank you

[undone badge]

TRUE

[frigid karma]

To quote a pinned message

[sour granite]

TRUEEE

you leave outskirts and instantly get hit by sisyphus

[undone badge]

i think im somewhere here in vanilla progress

[frigid karma]

I'd say that you're in best game ever ngl

one survivor playthrough is enough

[undone badge]

oh wow

i think not quite

hunter playthrough is the biggest difficulty spike

[sour granite]

hunter is the sort of thing you only persevere with if you like the game

[frigid karma]

True

[undone badge]

so after hunter the game gets a lot simpler

[undone badge]

hunter, persevere?

like perseverance??

[sour granite]

once you've beaten hunter you're at a pretty solid distance through the rw skill progression

[frigid karma]

TRUE

[sour granite]

TRUE

[frigid karma]

If you beat hunter you can beat the dlc slugcats

[sour granite]

^

i did hunter after MSC

[undone badge]

i wont start the dlc until i beat hunter

thats why i wanna get to that echo

[frigid karma]

My furthest perseverance attempt

[sour granite]

LMAO

[undone badge]

is that towards santa or towards FA

[frigid karma]

towards FA

[undone badge]

RIP

[sour granite]

that's right near chimney
going back into SI

[frigid karma]

that's SI in the clip

[undone badge]

the biggest issue with challenge for me is that i dont have a good computer

😔

[sour granite]

yea, near chimney

[sour granite]

it helps a lot
i got a new one recently and it's much smoother lol

[frigid karma]

ye

[undone badge]

one thing i noticed is that how is the screen bigger for you

[sour granite]

that seems... normal?

[frigid karma]

that's the normal aspect ratio

[undone badge]

i can only get one if i dont fail at history, grammar, literture, and physics

[undone badge]

i have my aspect ratio changed

due to lag

[frigid karma]

rip

[frigid karma]

At least you can get one

Filipino diffed

[sour granite]

ahh

[undone badge]

i have learning problems

it is not that simple

[frigid karma]

oh

gl man

[undone badge]

rip

im pretty close to that place as survivor i think so i could just get there

actually nah

ill screenshot a random place of the map with the entire screen

"random"

actually i have an idea

lets play a game of hot and cold with the echo

[tawdry bolt]

you were very near it, but now you're pretty far
idk if i can say anything else without soilers

[undone badge]

oh ty

then its on the very right

[frigid karma]

I would say this is slightly warm

[tawdry bolt]

is your karma high? if it is, you can actually see when you're near an echo

[undone badge]

THATS WARM?

[sour granite]

slightly

[undone badge]

my karma is low

[frigid karma]

What

oh

i see what you mean

[undone badge]

what about this

[frigid karma]

wawa ||not for this one though||

[frigid karma]

frigid

[sour granite]

nearly as cold as you can get

[frigid karma]

hypothermia

[undone badge]

..oh

[frigid karma]

lost in the forest naked in the winter nights

[undone badge]

i might as well get to the end of it

im curious whats there

oh yeah this thing

i swear it looks identical

[frigid karma]

[undone badge]

what about

[frigid karma]

slightly warmer

[undone badge]

is this warmer

[frigid karma]

i'm tempted to just flat out say where itis

[undone badge]

i actually wouldnt mind lmao

[frigid karma]

cuz it's like
Very Misleading™️

[undone badge]

story is more important to me

[frigid karma]

ok

[sour granite]

so uh
you can't* get to it from sub

[undone badge]

WHAT

[frigid karma]

@undone badge While the SB echo is technically inside SB, the most ideal method of reaching it is to enter SB from FA

[sour granite]

you know the big drop into sub from farm arrays? it's halfway down there

you went past it before

[undone badge]

is it possible to get back up there

[frigid karma]

hence the asterisk

[sour granite]

not from the bottom (or without complicated tech)

[frigid karma]

🪨 🫷⛰️ 🏋️

[sour granite]

(or a creature you didn't bring)

you technically can, but uhhhhhh

[frigid karma]

(red are spears)

[sour granite]

.

or that

[undone badge]

spear collecting simulator

theres got to be another way right??

the game isnt linear

[frigid karma]

I told you that when you found out that you'd hate me

[undone badge]

[frigid karma]

Which echoes have you collected

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theres another issue though

[frigid karma]

WAIT

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CC, E, and forgot if i got anything else

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I LIED

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TRAIN?

THOSE ARE TRAINS??

[frigid karma]

More like cargo

but those are tracks ye

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oh alr

i dont see any tunnels up to that place

[frigid karma]

Pebbles gives one echos worth

[frigid karma]

I was wrong srry there are no pipes going up

so

fuck

Ok so

uhm

gg

get to spearing

Or reset atp

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[sour granite]

how much karma are you on?

and how many cycles left

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3 cycles left

1st karma

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yeah it's joever

[sour granite]

ah

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why

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ggs

[frigid karma]

lowest karma to reach FA is 3 from SI

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I COULD GET THERE VIA PERSEVERANCE

[wind star]

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but can i only get out of SB via just spearing

[sour granite]

there are other ways out
every region has a minimum of 2 gates

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oh

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you'd functionally have to do this entire trip without dying

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yes

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no safety nets from starve when you get the echo because you'd be in cycle 0

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wait what

oh right.

starving doesnt save what happened

and echo kills you

[frigid karma]

no echo actually puts you back to your previous cycle

it's just that FA -> SB needs 4 karma

so you need to be in cycle 0 to get the echo

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so... the echo just kills me?

[frigid karma]

no

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or puts me at cycle 0

[sour granite]

no, it won't end your run if you're in permadeath and it won't send you back a karma level

just resets you to your last save

[frigid karma]

that

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oh alr

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spoilering a gate inside SB that I don't think you know, the route would need to be: ||SB -> 2 -> DS -> 1 -> OS -> 3 -> IC -> 3 -> CC -> 2|| -> SI -> 3 -> FA -> 4 -> SB -> Depths

while you can starve cheese for some of these, once you get to FA you need to lock in

actually no

once you get to outskirts

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i could get to the SI one

i didnt actually get that one

[frigid karma]

there is a reason you haven't seen that one

[sour granite]

^

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..oh

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like

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is the FA one there?

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example

the CC echo wasn't there before in your playthrough

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oh yeah

thats true

[frigid karma]

but it'ss there sometimes

[wind star]

i love lurking

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the lurkerr

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sometimes?

gobblurker

[wind star]

i have no idea what to say rn

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alright

how do I say this in a cool and epic way

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thy end is now

[wind star]

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uhhh

skibidi

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[sour granite]

this is the objectively incorrect answer

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ok I'm too uncreative

i'll just say that the wall & subterranean echoes are outliers

you can talk to them at anytime

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that means ive missed that echo

3 times

WAAA

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it's very easily missable

[wind star]

i had no idea a sub echo even existed

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I almost missed it my first playthrough

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i think every area has an echo

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it's something that if you're not paying attention to it will leave your mind

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not all

outskirts has no echo :moink:

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haha

[wind star]

are we just like soiling everything

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i'm still keeping some stuff hidden

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lets just say i got very tired of looking for the sub echo

and letting the soil through

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I'm still keeping the soil valves locked in though

don't want to soil too much

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ye

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imagine seeing eldritch horrors beyond my comprehension when still brand new to the game

actually now that I'm saying this

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well then the closest echo i have is either FA.. or IC

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devs didn't have the balls

they should'vve

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it would have been so funny

[wind star]

tutorial echo

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there's even a good spot for it

[frigid karma]

TRUE

[wind star]

menu screen echo !!

[sour granite]

TUTORIAL ECHO

[wind star]

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"I dont know why I appeared here critter, But you seem much different from the other creatures surounding us."

"more dialogue"

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loading screen echo

Press any button to play echo

[wind star]

"I dont know why I appeared here critter, but Objects can be picked up, carried, and tossed

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😭

[wind star]

that’s all of the dialogue

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"if you hold down [PICKUP BUTTON] you can eat"

[green finch]

Found the echo I see

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no not at all

i did find the hidden outskirts echo though

[tawdry bolt]

there's an echo in Outskirts??

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no

[wind star]

yeah (there’s not)

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there needs to be a mod that just adds an echo to outskirts

in an area 99% of beginners visit that isnt spawn

[sour granite]

mod that lets you reach 20 karma by adding 10 more echoes

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ascend+++++++++

at that rate you might as well just wipe out existence

well uh..

i dont know where to go as hunter now

i might as well just restart

[wind star]

PERSEVERE

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TRUE

I MUST

RAAAA

i just dont know how to get to fa from here now

[green finch]

Explore the region

[wind star]

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all i can do is guess its over here

[green finch]

you benefit a lot from finding region connections. Each one discovered means more options for routing

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yeah

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[frigid karma]

i have a custom region idea that I want to work on at one point

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i dont even know what regions are in msc so i cant come up with anything

ive only heard 1 name

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i think i know all of them... except for this one

[green finch]

do you?

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O has entrances to: DS, IC, FA
IC: O, GW, SC
DS:O, GW
SC: E, IC, SL
GW: DS, uhh..SL(?)
im losing track

[green finch]

there are... some missing

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even in that???

wow

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Some missing

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GW does connect to SL

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i forgot what area connects to SL on the very left side

so i just guessed

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gg

[undone badge]

what area was it??

im barely progressing as hunter right now

im gonna play survivor and look for echoes

and maybe explore more of the map

[frigid karma]

hf!!

[spare delta]

Well you know GW connects to IC, you just said so

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Echoes found:
O - ✅
IC
DS
GW
SL
SC
FA - ✅
FP
E - unsure
SI - ✅
CC - ✅
SUB

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ty!

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oh

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Tutorial echo lfg

[spare delta]

put an echo in the ||easternmost room||

||no one who knows how echoes work will ever find it there||

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you dont have to spoiler that

have i seen the exterior one btw?

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yes

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what about the FP one

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FP counts ig

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what

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im confused

[frigid karma]

don't worry abt it

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alr

i have NEVER seen this

oh nvm

its just moving a lot for some reason

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it prolly caught a batfly and is freaking out

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oh

i think thats the flytrap though

SO

time to wait

[minor maple]

Colder :3

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colder???

wow

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i. must. beat. hunter

i might just stay up all night looking for a way out of sub

woo i got new arenas

pain and suffering

oo im getting close to something

i think i may be near it

ITS GETTING BRIGHTER

I THINK I SEE THE OUTSIDE

I BARELY HAVE TIME LEFT THOUGH

shelter

SHELTERRR

YES

that was a bit roughz

I SEE THE AREAA

now the biggest question is: where the hell am i gonna exit to

SHORELINE!??!?!

IM SO FAR FROM SUB NOW

uh..sorta

BUT IM SO FAR FROM THE ECHO NOW

HI object i never found use for

OH MY GOD I FINALLY FOUND THE USE

really generous wow

[spare delta]

[spare delta]

. . .

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so far from the FA side of sub*

wow i got to an area ive actually been to!

the horrors

2 cycles remaining

[tawdry bolt]

oh no

[green finch]

you found it finally

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also from like bits and pieces non spoilers you guys sent i managed to put through how echos work

[green finch]

huh? Did you?

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"with enough karma you can tell when an echo is near you"
"they dont always spawn"

you need to be at a karma at or higher than the requirement for it

[green finch]

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i hope thats correct

[green finch]

||some of these statements might be not so accurate|| but you probably shouldn't worry about it

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😔

[green finch]

that's some impressive knowledge

[tawdry bolt]

I'm really glad you got to experience all of this without soilers
it's quite different from how i did when i restarted playing the game, although i still found a lot of things on my own

[undone badge]

i didnt find that on my own

i just suddenly remembered

and the pieces aligned

now for the hard part of hunter...

getting back to FA

then to shoreline

and to the bottom..

SUB*

"In computer science, an array is a data structure consisting of a collection of elements (values or variables), of same memory size, each identified by at least one array index or key. An array is stored such that the position of each element can be computed from its index tuple by a mathematical formula."
Huh

does that mean santa is a robot?

[green finch]

maybe? array is a broad term

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i mean.. santa does have robotic parts

[green finch]

did you see any?

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and a whole "memory.. forgot the 2nd word"

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the arm they move with

[green finch]

[sour granite]

[wind star]

are you talking about famr arrays

i don't think that counts as a soiler but i'll resend it but soiled just in case

[wind star]

||i always thought it was this definition||

being very careful with soilers

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could be that too.. but then where would the sunlight come in

[wind star]

from the sky

[undone badge]

i want to search up "symbolical meaning of five pebbles" but it would 100% show a RW soiler

im curious why its called "five pebbles" it sounds odd

[sour granite]

This is true

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or the names of the echoes

would also came up with the same thing

[wind star]

time to insert my opinion again

i assumed they just put random words together

[undone badge]

that is definitely not true

they make a full game with multiple endings and stuff

and one of the biggest areas has a random name

[wind star]

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idk about this one though

actually

freedom of the cycle

curiosity whats without the cycle

changing away from the cycle

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freedom from the cycle*

the cycle is definitely not freedom

[wind star]

⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ⬛ 🌕

looks to the moon

oh it didn't

there

[wind star]

that is such a fun search

[undone badge]

this game has been very spiritual so far

[wind star]

your search history is going to be great after this

[undone badge]

🔥

[spare delta]

I like how you're wording these

[undone badge]

i did not want to search "does looks to the moon..."

i just tried searching that and the 1st thing i see is

"looks to the moon rain world wiki"

[spare delta]

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THE WORD "ENLIGHTENMENT" THOUGH

very interesting

[green finch]

<@&820300878035943457> reference??

[undone badge]

"Stolen enlightenment"

[sour granite]

your search history is now amazing

(but also you did a good job of getting theories without spoilers so well done 👍 )

[green finch]

it takes more effort to avoid spoilers rather then developing theories

I'm impressed you are still hanging

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-hanginthere-gif-15888839111668116601

[sour granite]

true
you've almost finished vanilla and are still consistently spoiler dodging

[undone badge]

because this game is fucking awesome

it gets frustrating at times but never rage level

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like the time i died to the sheer force of a fly knocking me into a wall at the speed of light

[sour granite]

[spare delta]

us one of us one of us one of us one of us one of us one of us one of us one of

[sour granite]

now you just need to do rwscs :3

[undone badge]

i grabbed a fly, went in a tunnel, i hear a large thud and see the room im not right next to

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msc*

[sour granite]

HUH

[spare delta]

oh no

I am powerless to stop you, I can't recommend they play mods

[sour granite]

muahahaha

rwsc propoganda shall prevail

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im totally fine with mods in games

im just gonna do it when i feel like getting them